http://thenewstalkers.com/kpr37 Mon, 09 Nov 2026 14:55:07 -0500 http://thenewstalkers.com/kpr37/blog/2350/who-was-the-first-to-live-in-what-is-now-israel-jews-or-arabs http://thenewstalkers.com/kpr37/blog/2350








saved because I think it’s going to be deleted by down votes with out moderation. I need a copy to submit.


Who was the first to live in what is now Israel, Jews or Arabs?













On the face it, that’s a ridiculous question. Let’s not mince words here.
Not a single human being who has studied history, historical time sequences, the evolution of languages, or religious traditions has a moments hesitation in answering that. It is in no way disputed, or disputable in any serious academic debate.
Disputes arise solely from animosity toward Israel and the Jewish people. There is an industry, well funded to perpetuate and spread myths, half truths, outrageous unfounded accusations. Sometimes even remanufactured, updated classic antiSemitic canards, such as the blood libel. Or updated versions of of the “protocol of the learned elders of Zion”.
Here would be an example of a more relevant question in my opinion, in determining international rights, indigenous peoples determination, and the various questions arising from the League of Nations first legally binding international treaty.










https://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/palmanda.asp

















Effectively altering the population demographic of the region, in an inalterable internationally reconciled legal perspective.
Israel, the Jewish people were last.
Whoever was first, they no longer exist. so what does it matter? What does it even mean?
Being last, is what really matters. Israel, and the Jewish people, they are the “Last” surviving remnants of the numerous, individual ancient peoples cultural groupings. Who have not perished, who in fact flourished. They continue to do so. The Jewish peoples are the only ones who have a real valid historical claim . Archeology does not dispute it. In any way at all. In point of fact, It confirms it.
Then there is Israel’s historically well documented presence in that land. Easily confirmed from independent sources spanning various historical time frames, written in Assyrian, Persian, Babylonian, Greek and Roman sources.
What does any other competition, or claimant have to the land ? Other than the ever popular and widely accepted delusions? I mean really!
The Israeli’s have out lasted them all. The other peoples cultures vanished, swallowed whole by more successful cultural traditions marching over them, replacing them. By either obliterating them completely, or assimilating them totally into a new peoples group.
Arabs/Islam have been trying to claim Jewish religious traditions, Prophets, dietary habits and now the land. Tell them to…how do I put this gently…. “Bugger off with dumb that shit why don’t ya?
Claiming evidence is not the same has being able to actually produce evidence. Then mention that in a thousand years or so, you, my “Arab” cousins may very well become non-existent too. Because you are a religious construct. Not a naturally occurring, indigenous peoples spontaneous culturally altering one.
Somebody with a knowledge of Islam, may be so unkind, as to point out the words of your prophet, actually did in fact predict it. It is narrated on the authority of Ibn 'Umar ('Abdullah b. 'Umar) that the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) observed:
Verily Islam started as something strange and it would again revert (to its old position) of being strange just as it started, and it would recede between the two mosques just as the serpent crawls back into its hole.










https://sunnah.com/muslim/1/280

















Something to seriously consider. Where it not for the indigenous Jewish peoples religious traditions arising from, and within that area. First Christians and then Islamic religious beliefs would not exist in any way that we as modern humans could understand them. If they existed now at all. It’s far more likely they, neither of them could have been formed at all. I’m not a theologian, I don’t have a clue about that. But I’d love to see an attempt at a serious answer to that question. Among many of the questions that should be asked. Such as …..How did North Africa, become Arab North Africa?
Assyrians, are not Arab, or they never were considered that, before Islam’s arrival. Ask a “Coptic” Christian in Egypt, if he is an Arab. Iraqi’s / Babylonian’s were never historically Arabs either.
But Jews have been Jews for thousands of years. No matter where they were forced to live. They managed to maintained their cultural traditions, as well as their religious heritage. When it was made legal by international authorities, League of Nations, United Nations, to return and claim their ancestral homeland, they did, as soon as feasible.
Tell your Arab cousins you understand reality is a hard pill to swallow, deleted ToS and CoC [ph]








The unique medicinal properties of camel products: A review of the scientific evidence

استُخدمت ألبان وأبوال الإبل كعلاجات في مناطق معينة من آسيا وأفريقيا منذ أزمنة قديمة٬ ولكن حديثا فقط أبدى العلماء اهتماما باستكشاف تلك المزاعم العلاجية…

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1658361216000238

















But till they got a shred of real evidence. Anything at all, that will pass even the simplest cursory examination….tell them to just go away, your delusions are tiresome.
Nothing else has worked in well over seventy years. (Longer if we include allah’s misogynistic messenger boy’s Theocratic delusions) You might try the admittedly harsh, unforgiving reality of the situation. Perhaps the truthful, admittedly unkind,  often times purposefully offensive, argumentative reasoning of an Irish Cynic? Who knows it may help?
What do ya got to lose? Really, Israel has faced terrorism, anti-Semitism, irrational hot blooded hatred, and ice clod academic antipathy toward teaching the irrefutable historical truth of humanity’s shared common reality. It’s an easily verifiable historical reality at that!




]]> Fri, 01 Jan 2021 17:31:40 -0500 http://thenewstalkers.com/kpr37/blog/1761/burma-myanmar-jihad-in-historical-perspective http://thenewstalkers.com/kpr37/blog/1761
My source used for this essay is Dr. Aye Chan's research at Japan's Kanda University of International Studies, in his review of British correspondence between the years 1947 and 1975. As well as his later original research papers and articles on this conflict.
This is a very complicated subject, that has little if any historical context accompanying contemporary articles or commentary on the truly disturbing accusations arising from this long-term conflict.
I am completely against the targeting of civilian populations on either side to achieve political or religious agendas not conforming to international laws and the norms of civil conflict resolution.
What is a legitimate defense of indigenous cultural and religious traditions?
What steps can a civilian, military, political leadership take to secure the long-term security of its people and their traditions in the face of an organized operation to obliterate its very existence through an international theocratic campaign of Jihad?
Records of the diplomatic exchanges of the national archives of the British Commonwealth make clear that a jihad was declared in the 1940s against the nation as well as the Buddhists of the borderlands of Burma (Myanmar) East Pakistan (Bangladesh)

An insurgent enclave of sedition was purposely set up to advance the goals of theocratic interests in East Pakistan ( later Bangladesh) along the border region separating Burma and East Pakistan. I believe it was the same general tactic employed to great effect, to frustrate and then attempt to overturn the Jewish effort to reconstitute their homeland in the middle east. Just as the word or designation, "Palestinian" has no real historical context relating to Arabs. Linguistic research suggests the same with the word, "Rohingya" as unconnected to any indigenous population group related to a specific geographic area, and is instead connected with the religious concept or word, "Mohammedans" in the Rakhine Languages (Arakanese). Evidence strongly suggests the "Rohingya" Muslims are in reality Bengali Muslims, simply cynically designated as persecuted stateless victims to further a narrative to an uninformed world community to advance an Islamic agenda. The parallels with the Israeli, Palestinian conflict are utterly stunning in the similarities.



 “A Comparative Vocabulary of Some of the Languages Spoken in the Burma Empire in 1799 ″ by Francis Buchanan – which mentioned Rohingya is the native of Arakan and their language with comparing others languages. U Haty Lwin Oo pointed out the pronunciations – Sun, Mon and earth – which is similar to recent Rohingya languages. He also appointed out with report that Rohingya means Mohammedans (Islam religious). After seeing the references book, Dr. Aye Chan said Rohingya mean Rakhine and after again seeing languages he again said the Rohingya language is Rakhine Languages (Arakanese).”... http://kaladanpress.org/index.php/news/328-news-2013/march-2013/4139-rohingya-means-rakhine-dr-aye-chan.html



From Amnesty international






The State Peace and Development Council (SPDC)

rejects the existence of a separate ethnic group called "Rohingya"
The vast majority of Rohingyas are not believed to possess Myanmar citizenship. Moreover they are not recognised as one of the 135 ‘national races’ by the Myanmar government: In actual fact, although there are (135) national races living in Myanmar today, the so-called Rohingya people is not one of them. Historically, there has never been a ‘Rohingya’ race in Myanmar. The very name Rohingya is a creation of a group of insurgents in the Rakhine State..(page 5)



https://www.amnesty.org/download/Documents/92000/asa160052004en.pdf





From Oxford University



In the late 1950s, Muslim leaders and students in North Arakan (officially known as Rakhine State since 1989) began to use the term Rohingya to assert a distinct ethnoreligious identity for the region’s Muslim community, as distinct from its majority Buddhist population, to which the term Rakhine usually refers.1 In the early 1960s, Muslim authors of Rohingya pamphlets were keenly aware of how novel their chosen appellation was for the Burmese public at the time. The use of the name spread widely in the international media after riots in Rakhine State in 2012, when Rohingyas became widely known internationally as a state-oppressed Muslim minority.2 The term Rohingya embodies an ongoing process of identity formation that has unified Muslim communities in the North Arakan region with a similar cultural profile, but a diverse historical background; at the same time, Myanmar officials reject Rohingya as an ethnic denomination, as they reject the legitimacy of the postcolonial Rohingya movement of political emancipation, aiming at the creation of an autonomous Muslim area in North Arakan.3
http://asianhistory.oxfordre.com/view/10.1093/acrefore/9780190277727.001.0001/acrefore-9780190277727-e-115







This east Asian conflict was funded and encouraged to frustrate any resolution not aligning with the goals of the religious fanatics fanning the flames of intolerance within the Ummah (theocratic Islamic community) inhabiting the area, as well as those outside forces seeking to gain political/religious, influence in the region under dispute.


Burma's Western Border as Reported by the Diplomatic Correspondence (1947 - 1975) If one explores the diplomatic records of the British Commonwealth in the National Archives in London, two files will be found in the accession to the Southeast Asia Collection, bound with the corresponding letters between the British Embassy in Rangoon, the Foreign Office in London, the High Commissioner of the United Kingdom in Karachi, Pakistan and the Deputy High Commissioner of the United Kingdom in Dacca (Dhaka). According to the British Archival Law, these files were kept secret as government documents until 1979 and 2005 respectively. Both of them consist of the correspondences between these diplomatic missions, regarding border problems between Burma and East Pakistan (later Bangladesh ) .Burma (Myanmar) was a British colony until 1948:Arakan (Rakhine State) that shares an international boundary of 45 miles with Bangladesh today was the first Burmese province annexed to British India after the First Anglo-Burmese War (1924-26). The Naaf River serves as the emblematic border between the two countries. The aforementioned documents have shed lights on new information on the Jihadist movement of the Chittagonian residents (or so-called Rohingya) in North Arakan, the illegal cross-border migrations, and the communal violence on Burma's western frontier in the first decade of independent Burma.

On the Mujahid Rebellion in Arakan . The Mujahids of Chittagonian Muslims from North Arakan declared the jihad on Burma after the central government refused to grant a separate Muslim state in the two townships , Buthidaung and Maungdaw that lie along the East Pakistani (present-day Bangladeshi) border. The Mujahid movement was launched before Burma gained independence , and sabotaged the resettlement program for the refugees in the Buthidaung and Maungdaw Townships .
 During the World War II, the Arakanese inhabitants of Buthidaung and Maungdaw were forced to leave their homes. The people of Buthidaung fled to Kyauktaw and Minbya where the Arakaneselived as the majority. The Arakanese from Maungdaw were evacuated to Dinajpur in East Bengal by the British officials. Even though the British administration was reestablished after the war, the Arakanese were unable to return to their homes:     For want of funds only 277 out of about 2400 indigenous Arakanese, who were displaced from Buthidaung and Maungdaw Townships after the British evacuation in 1942, could be resettled on the sites of their original homes. There are also two thousand Arakanese Buddhist refuges brought for fear of Muslims' threatening and frightening them by firing machine guns near the villages at night. While our hands are full with internally displaced refugees we cannot take the responsibilityfor repatriation of the Muslim refugees from the Sabirnagar camp which the government of India is pressing.". ...The Muslim refugees from the camp at Subirnagar were also unable to resettle in the interior part of Akyab District at Alegyun, Apaukwa and Gobedaung. All 3,000 of them were initially sent to Akyab Island. Two Muslim Relief Committees were formed in Akyab and Buthidaung in order to provide any possible assistance to the refugees. Then a proposal to send about 1,500 refugees in small groups to the Muslim villages in Buthidaung Township as a temporary solution was accepted. The District Welfare Officer was instructed to work out the expenses for transport and building materials.2)       In August 1947, the Sub-Divisional Officer of Maungdaw, U Tun Oo, was brutally murdered by the Muslims. The Commissioner of Arakan reports:..........." I have no doubt that this is a result of a long fostered communal feeling by the Muslims. The assassins who committed the murder were suspected to be employed by the Muslim Police Officers and have been organizing strong Muslim feelings and dominating the whole areas. This is a direct affront and open challenge to the lawful authority of the Burma Government by the Muslim Community of Buthidaung and Maungdaw Townships whose economic invasion of this country was fostered during the British regime. Unless this most dastardly flouting of the government is firmly and severely dealt with, this alien community will try to annex this territory or instigate Pakistan to annex it.3)"
The newly independent republic had to cope with the insurgency of Karen ethnic group rebels and the communists after celebrating the independence in 1948. Major cities were captured by the Communists and Karen rebels. Two battalions of the regular army went underground to join the communists. The rebels surrounded the Capital City, Rangoon. The Union government was scrawled in the international newspapers with the epithet of "Rangoon Government." In such a situation only a few hundred troops from the Battalion (V) were sent to the western front to fight the Mujahids. Buthidaung and Maungdaw were under the control of the government forces but the countryside around the town was out of control.Concerning the objective and strength of the Mujahids, The British Embassy in Rangoon reported the Foreign Office in Londonon February 12, 1949
" It is hard to say whether the ultimate object of the Muslims is that their separate state should remain within the Union or not, but it seems likely that even an autonomous state within the Union would necessarily be drawn towards Pakistan. The Mujahids seem also to have taken arms in about October last,although this does not exclude the possibility that some have not gone underground and are still trying to obtain their objective by agitation only . There are perhaps 500 Muslims under arms, although the total number of supporters of the movement is greater.4)



http://ci.nii.ac.jp/els/contentscinii_20170920113716.pdf?id=ART0009830506
I think I have presented the general direction of the correspondence recorded by the British, but please take the time to read the full report. Do your own research, do not believe those pushing an agenda, make up your own mind. If you learned something here, just think what can learn on your own. It's only with knowledge of the truth, that we can make informed decisions. Ignorance is always, in every case, a poor companion to reason.


]]> Wed, 12 Sep 2018 03:43:10 -0400 http://thenewstalkers.com/kpr37/blog/1759/jihad-violence-as-explained-by-newtons-first-law-subtitled-the-sharia-compliace-theory http://thenewstalkers.com/kpr37/blog/1759
Two article caught my attention recently. I look at things differently, or I try too at least. For some unexplained reason, Newton's first law. Inertia and Mass State of Motion Balanced and Unbalanced Forces immediately sprung to my mind. ( I blame my habitual use of the "devil weed" for this strange occurrence)


Pakistan claims credit for cancellation of Dutch cartoon contest.  Imran Khan's government claimed victory after far-right Dutch politician Geert Wilders cancelled his provocative contest for people to draw cartoons of the Prophet after receiving 'death threats'



https://atimes.us14.list-manage.com/track/click?u=2049a8663daea00bd30c32cf2&id=36fa333ee4&e=7477bba0c0
The second article is here

"The 19-year-old suspect is accused of stabbing the Americans in an unprovoked attack after he arrived at Amsterdam's Central Station on an international train. Prosecutors say he did not know the victims were U.S. citizens. Prosecutors say the suspect believes that Islam is 'insulted' in the Netherlands, and that drove him to travel to the Netherlands to carry out an attack. 'It is apparent from his statements that he believes that in the Netherlands, the Prophet Muhammad, the Quran, Islam and Allah are repeatedly insulted,' prosecutors said in a statement Monday, noting that the young Afghan man specifically mentioned Dutch lawmaker Geert Wilders, who is well known for his fierce anti-Islam rhetoric".

(Islam is Arabic for submission, so in reality, Geert Wilders is anti-submission. But it will never be phrased like that. As that, in, and of itself, is likely to inspire more jihadi violence.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6134531/Cops-shot-jihadist-stabbed-tourists-Amsterdam-just-NINE-SECONDS-began-attack.html

The two articles lead me to theorize this sharia compliance theory. Based on Newton's principles. The systemic application of violence is the quickest, and surest way to establish and enforce sharia in a secular, non-Islamic society. Think of it as Newton described Inertia in his "first law". A society evolving at a natural pace will proceed in the same general direction unless acted upon by hyper-violent jihadis enforcing sharia on a non-compliant society. Unless an equal, or greater force is applied to the Jihadis, the secular society will inadvertently adopt the seventh-century murderous, misogynist, antisemitic, pedophilic norms found predominantly throughout the Islamic world.


The law of inertia states that:

A body will preserve its velocity and direction so long as no force in its motion's direction acts on it.
http://muse.tau.ac.il/museum/galileo/the_law_of_inertia.html



Paraphrasing Newton's law to examine jihadi violence. My theory of sharia compliance postulates, thus. A nation or society will preserve it cultural and legal codes, only so long as no jihadi force disrupts a nations cultural and legal codes by means of the application of persistent applied violence, directed at the civilian population of said nation.
What does this mean?
This means that there is a natural tendency of nation states to keep on doing what they're doing. All nation-states, as a rule, resist sudden, drastic, unnatural, changes in their state of governance. In the absence of an unbalanced force, ( such as--unopposed jihadi violence) a nation state will maintain a general direction of governance supported widely by the will of the people as determined in open elections. It is this hyper-violent outside force, applying pressure (jihad) that changes the trajectory of a previously secular nation to become sharia-compliant. 

"Unlimited tolerance must lead to the disappearance of tolerance. If we extend unlimited tolerance even to those who are intolerant, if we are not prepared to defend a tolerant society against the onslaught of the intolerant, then the tolerant will be destroyed, and tolerance with them. In this formulation, I do not imply, for instance, that we should always suppress the utterance of intolerant philosophies; as long as we can counter them by rational argument and keep them in check by public opinion, suppression would certainly be most unwise. But we should claim the right to suppress them if necessary even by force; for it may easily turn out that they are not prepared to meet us on the level of rational argument, but begin by denouncing all argument; they may forbid their followers to listen to rational argument, because it is deceptive, and teach them to answer arguments by the use of their fists or pistols. We should therefore claim, in the name of tolerance, the right not to tolerate the intolerant. We should claim that any movement preaching intolerance places itself outside the law, and we should consider incitement to intolerance and persecution as criminal, in the same way as we should consider incitement to murder, or to kidnapping, or to the revival of the slave trade, as criminal"........................... (Karl Popper, The Open Society and Its Enemies). https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00ABKGP4E?ie=UTF8&linkCode=as2&camp=1634&creative=6738&tag=paroftheday07-20&creativeASIN=B00ABKGP4E


This simply, and easily explains that nation-states, do not start, stop or change direction all by themselves, needlessly submitting themselves to become compliant with seventh-century sharia norms. It requires some great effort, or force acting upon them from the outside to cause such a change. ( I identify this force as applied jihadi violence)  While this concept seems simple and obvious to me today, I have not been infected with the politically correct memeplex, permanently blinding me to this unfortunate, really, really, "fucked up" reality.

A meme may improve its prospects for survival if it becomes part of what Dawkins termed a “memeplex”. This is a situation where a number of compatible memes join together in a manner that is mutually supportive, and may be seen as a roughly analogous situation to that where genes work in concert with other genes in the genome. Political and religious beliefs and also the combined knowledge of experts such as blacksmiths or builders can be seem as memeplexes and they clearly help to secure the longevity of the memes of which they are composed. https://www.richarddawkins.net/2014/02/whats-in-a-meme/

]]> Thu, 06 Sep 2018 23:22:11 -0400 http://thenewstalkers.com/kpr37/blog/1686/today-is-the-85-anniversary-of-the-dbs-movement http://thenewstalkers.com/kpr37/blog/1686

# OTD In 1933, Nazi Germany staged a daylong national boycott of Jewish-owned businesses http:// apne.ws/ZcmZsiE  
Who knew today is the 85 anniversary of the BDS movement? I wonder if there is some sort of ceremony on American university campuses to commemorate the event?
Walking in the footsteps of monsters! (they could call it)
It is really not that difficult to trace this toxic ideology right back to Haj Amin al-Husseini and the Nazi's. American campuses celebrate the same Nazi tactics used since the 1930s to target the Jewish community. Why is this? This is open source intelligence, common knowledge!!


With the f--ing "nazi" hysteria sweeping the nation this epistemological realism is strangely ignored.
Things that make ya go Hmmmmm . (C.C. music factory)

On the contrary, Haj Amin al-Husseini was Palestinian nationalism’s fiercest opponent. In his day, the word “Palestinian” referred exclusively to Zionist Jews
His jihad was to destroy their movement and with that goal in mind murdered hundreds in the Arab Revolt (1936-39).
Under the Turks for four centuries prior to WWI (1914-18), there had been no administrative district called “Palestine” and no Arab/Muslim called himself a “Palestinian.”
The post-war Paris Peace Conference that opened in January 1919 led to the creation of the League of Nations that in turn drafted its Mandate for Palestine in language making clear that “Palestine” at that time did not exist. It had to be created and was explicitly defined as “a Jewish homeland.”
This, of course, did not sit well with Husseini, not yet the Grand Mufti but still a Muslim priest. In October 1919, he established a newspaper in Jerusalem called Al-Suria Al-Janubia (Southern Syria) whose title was its raison d’etre: to combat the creation of Palestine because, while the name meant something to Jews and Christians as a synonym from their shared Bible’s Promised Land, it never meant anything to Muslims. It is never mentioned in the Koran and Muslims never governed such a territory with that name.
The Arabs had always called the region Bilad al-Sham (Damascus territory), and on March 8, 1920, Husseini even attended in Damascus the coronation of prince Faisal of the Hedjaz (Alec Guinness in the Hollywood epic Lawrence of Arabia) as king of Syria. That same day in Jerusalem, an agent of Husseini’s delivered a note to British military governor Ronald Storrs demanding that the new British-French dividing line separating Palestine from traditional Syria be erased. Simultaneously, Haj Amin’s cousin Musa Kazim, mayor of Jerusalem, started a riot in the Holy City in support of that desire.
And this was Husseini’s crusade for the next 40 years, into the 1960s. His resistance to Zionism was always exclusively religious in content and tone. What is called today “Palestinian nationalism” had nothing to do with it.
In this his politics were no different from those of the Muslim Brotherhood established in Egypt in 1928 in reaction to the radical de-Islamization of Turkey under Ataturk. Serious Muslims experience nationalism as a threat to Islam.
What devout Muslims want is a one-world caliphate, not another secular, Western- style nation-state, as Ataturk did.
Contrary to Paldiel, today’s “Palestinian national movement” dates to an Arab League meeting in Cairo on March 29, 1959, when Gamal Abdel Nasser suggested that the generic term “Arab refugees” be replaced. It had been in use since 1949 because so many of them had been migrant workers from all over the Arab world working in Eretz Yisrael at the time of Israel’s War of Independence and there was nothing “Palestinian” about them.
Nasser thus wanted to replace “Arab refugees” with kiyan falastini (a Palestinian entity) in imitation of Algeria’s FLN, at the moment conducting terrorist bombings against European civilians in Algeria in order to expel the French colonial regime (as France had five years earlier been driven from Vietnam).
Nasser’s idea was to rebrand the Muslim resistance to Israel in language different from Husseini’s religious idiom. The new lexicon would be the propaganda of yet another Third World “war of national liberation.”
No more terrorist atrocities committed by fedayeen and mujahideen, religious terms; they would be transformed into “anti-imperialist, anti-colonialist freedom fighters.”
In sum, Husseini was not the “father of the Palestinian national movement.” He resisted Zionism for exclusively Muslim reasons. Today’s Palestinian nationalism began as verbal camouflage in order to cover up classical Islam’s hostility to Jewish freedom that is as old as that religion.
https://www.jpost.com/Opinion/Haj-Amin-al-Husseini-was-no-Palestinian-nationalist-431828
Over the past decade, as the prospects of peace between Israelis and Palestinians became ever slimmer, there has been a growing attention to—and, in some quarters, acceptance of—the Boycott, Divestment, and Sanctions movement targeting Israel, or BDS. Those drawn to the cause have likely come across the US Campaign for Palestinian Rights, a Virginia-based non-profit organization that serves as the American umbrella group of the BDS movement and is arguably the most prominent promoter of BDS in the United States. The US Campaign, which is officially called Education for Just Peace in the Middle East, coordinates the efforts of 329 different pro-BDS organizations “working to advocate for Palestinian rights and a shift in US policy… bound by commonly shared principles on Palestine solidarity as well as our anti-racism principles,” according to the group’s website .


But as   Tablet confirmed , the group also helps facilitate tax-exempt donations to a Palestinian coalition that includes Hamas, Palestinian Islamic Jihad, the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine, and other groups the US State Department designates as terror organizations.
The US Campaign, Tablet has learned, is the fiscal sponsor of a group called the Palestinian BDS National Committee (BNC), the main West Bank and Gaza-based cohort advocating for sanctions against Israel. The BNC was created in 2007 in Ramallah with the intention of serving as the Palestinian arm of the international BDS campaign.  According to the BNC’s website, one of the group’s members is the Council of National and Islamic Forces in Palestine, commonly known as PNIF. Among PNIF’s members are five different groups designated by the US as terrorist organizations, including Hamas , the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP) , the Popular Front – General Command (PFLP-GC), the Palestine Liberation Front, and Palestinian Islamic Jihad (PIJ). Since its founding, the BNC has frequently and openly collaborated with known leaders of these terror organizations: In 2015, for example, the BNC held a press conference to pressure the Palestinian government not to import gas from Israel, featuring a speech by Khalida Jarrar, then a member of the Palestinian parliament for the PFLP and still an active official in the terror group. A video of the BNC-hosted press conference features Jarrar seated alongside BNC secretariat member Omar Barghouti .
Founded in 1967, the PFLP is responsible for numerous bloody attacks, including the 1976 hijacking of an Air France plane to Uganda and the 1980 assault on Kibbutz Misgav Am in northern Israel, during which PFLP terrorists took over the Kibbutz’s nursery and murdered two-and-a-half-year-old Eyal Gluska. More recently, the PFLP took responsibility for the 2014 massacre of four Jews praying in a Jerusalem synagogue, and has emerged as a major supporter of Bashar al-Assad’s brutal regime in Syria. Last month, the group’s combatants were filmed entering the Yarmouk refugee camp in Damascus, where they supported Assad’s murder of scores of Palestinians
http://www.tabletmag.com/scroll/263409/bds-umbrella-group-linked-to-palestinian-terrorist-organizations


I live in a mixed up, muddled up, shock up, world or Commonwealth to be precise..
Where The Jewish voice for peace and the American Civil liberty union opposed an anti-BDS Bill in the state legislature against anti-discrimination laws based upon race, color, creed, religion, sex, national origin, gender identity, or sexual orientation.
The bill, filed in January by state Senator Cynthia Creem (D-Newton) and state representatives Paul McMurtry (D-Dedham) and Steven Howitt (R-Seekonk), faced strong opposition from a coalition of Palestinian rights groups and clergy led by the Jewish Voice for Peace Boston and the Alliance for Water Justice in Palestine. The Massachusetts chapter of the American Civil Liberties Union submitted a letter against the bill , cautioning it would prevent constitutionally protected boycotts.
While the proposed bill does not specifically refer to Israel, the law would require a person seeking a contract for $10,000 or more with any state agency to certify compliance with the state’s anti-discrimination laws based upon race, color, creed, religion, sex, national origin, gender identity, or sexual orientation.
The bill has often been referred to as anti-BDS legislation, the acronym for the Boycott, Divestment, and Sanctions movement aimed to force Israel into accepting Palestinian demands

http://jewishjournal.org/2018/03/08/anti-bds-bill-stalls-at-the-state-house/



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K-K-Kanye West darling of the "alt-right" at the moment, has been invited to visit Nigeria by Shehu Sani, a member of the "All Progressive Congress", the ruling party in Nigeria. As one should historically be very wary of Greeks bearing gifts, one should well examine progressives of any stripe peddling a narrative, wanting to 'inform" you.
Lagos, Nigeria (CNN) A Nigerian senator has invited American rapper Kanye West to visit slave ports in Africa for an education on the slave trade.
Kanye West is facing immense criticism following his remarks during an interview with TMZ live this week in Los Angeles, where he said the slave trade was a "choice".
The musician opened up about his mental health, his family, and his art during the show. He also said this about slavery, "When you hear about slavery for 400 years ... For 400 years? That sounds like a choice.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/04/africa/nigeria-lawmaker-kanye-west/index.html
I believe that this is truly a gift, a wonderful opportunity to learn more about the truly horrific trans-Atlantic and localized indigenous slave trade of the area. (pre-colonial and post-colonial)
I'm hopeful he will take to heart on this trip, the true meaning of the Thomas Sowell quote that he, Mr. West recently posted on Twitter. As it is, in my opinion, an apt companion for his journey of intellectual discovery.
“It takes considerable knowledge just to realize the extent of your own ignorance.”
Now, what may we be ignorant about regarding Nigeria? Where to start? I've studied West Africa, particularly Nigeria for twenty years and yet still discover the depths of my own ignorance on a semi-regular basis.
Who knows of the terrible "choice" made in Georgia in 1803 by enslaved Igbo?
Igbo Landing is a historic site at Dunbar Creek on St. Simons Island, Glynn County, Georgia. In 1803 one of the largest mass suicides of enslaved people took place when Igbo captives from what is now Nigeria were taken to the Georgia coast. In May 1803, the Igbo and other West African captives arrived in Savannah, Georgia, on the slave ship the Wanderer. They were purchased for an average of $100 each by slave merchants John Couper and Thomas Spalding to be resold to plantations on nearby St. Simons Island. The chained slaves were packed under deck of a coastal vessel, the York, which would take them to St. Simons. During the voyage, approximately 75 Igbo slaves rose in rebellion, took control of the ship, drowned their captors, and in the process caused the grounding of the ship in Dunbar Creek.
The sequence of events that occurred next remains unclear. It is known only that the Igbo marched ashore, singing, led by their high chief. Then at his direction, they walked into the marshy waters of Dunbar Creek, committing mass suicide.
http://www.blackpast.org/aah/igbo-landing-mass-suicide-1803
How many know the percentage of enslaved Africans from this area that were brought to America? Nigeria and America have deep and everlasting ties few acknowledge or are even remotely aware of.
The Igbo and Yoruba peoples from the Bights of Benin and Biafra compromised roughly one-third of all enslaved Africans transported to the Americas. Professor Childs examines how the transatlantic slave trade during the 18th and 19th centuries brought about the formation of a common identity in Africa among the Yoruba and Igbo peoples, and how their culture was both transferred and transformed in the Americas.
https://barnard.edu/events/trans-atlantic-slave-trade-its-effect-igbo-yoruba-cultures
Bringing us to Olaudah Equiano the first Nigerian abolitionist.
Olaudah Equiano, whose father was an Ibo chief, was born in 1745 in what is now Southern Nigeria. At the age of 11 years, Olaudah was captured by African slave traders and sold into bondage in the New World. Equiano, given the name Gustavus Vassa by one of his many owners, was forced to serve several masters, among them a Virginia plantation owner, a British Naval officer, and a Philadelphia, Pennsylvania merchant. While a slave to the naval officer Equiano traveled between four continents. These global experiences within the Atlantic Slave Trade allowed Equiano to produce the most popular and vivid slave narrative of his era.
By 1777 at the age of 32, Equiano, after having mastered reading, writing and arithmetic, purchased his freedom. He settled in England, befriended Granville Sharp, the first prominent British abolitionist, and soon became a leader of the emerging anti-slavery movement. Equiano presented one of the first petitions to the British Parliament calling for the abolition of slavery.
Equiano married an Englishwoman, Susanna Cullen, in 1792. The couple had two daughters, one of whom survived to inherit her father’s estate. Olaudah Equiano died in 1797, ten years before the slave trade was abolished and 36 years before Parliament outlawed slavery throughout the British Empire.
http://www.blackpast.org/gah/equiano-olaudah-1745-1797
First, for the purposes of this article the word Benin, as used is not the post-colonial nation-state of Benin (the ancient kingdom of Dahomey/ Fon peoples) but the area around Benin city Nigeria ( Edo peoples).
The people of the south-east were heavily preyed upon by slave traders from the north and along the coast. Forced to abandon their settlements and move into the forests to evade their captors, the struggles of the Igbo peoples were preserved in long epics, memorised and passed down the generations.
Colonial period
In the 15th century, Benin began to trade with the Portuguese, selling slaves and acquiring spices, firearms, the art of writing and the Christian religion. By the 18th century, the British had displaced the Portuguese as leaders of the slave trade. A century later, in 1807, the missionaries’ campaign against slavery had gained support, leading the British parliament to ban the slave trade. The navy began to patrol the coast, arresting slavers and settling captured slaves (most of them Nigerians) in the resettlement colony of Sierra Leone. Several missionaries in Nigeria were themselves freed Nigerian slaves who had converted to Christianity in Sierra Leone. The missionaries introduced quinine to control malaria, a new trade in palm oil also began, and the economies of southern Nigeria became increasingly powerful. Steamboats took this new culture up-river and into the forests.
In the early 19th century, there was upheaval in the north, as Fulani emirs declared a jihad (holy war) against the Hausa state of Gobir and created a new empire with city states, a common religious and judicial system and Qur’anic schools. The Muslim empire spread rapidly.
http://thecommonwealth.org/our-member-countries/nigeria/history
From the Harriet Tubman Institute.
Slaves in Kano are categorised into two classes:
bayin gida(domestic slaves) and bayin aiki
(farmyard slaves). Bayin gida were also referred to as “trusted” slaves that have earned the trust of their master either through hard work, obedience or bravery at the battlefield. These slaves
are mostly found among the royal households as identified by Imam Imoru in the table below:
Bayin aiki on the other hand are the slaves that were
recently captured and enslaved and have very little or no
knowledge of their status in the society. They are mostly
being considered first-generation slaves.
http://www.tubmaninstitute.ca/sites/default/files/file/Hamza_Ibrahim_2005.pdf
At a time when coastal West Africa was responding to the growth of legitimate trade, the Sokoto Caliphate was experiencing dramatic expansion in the plantation sector. Plantations (gandu, rinji, tungazi), which used slaves captured by the Caliphate armies, were established near all the major towns and were particularly important around Sokoto, Kano, Zaria and other capitals. Plantation development originated with the policies of Muhammad Bello, first Caliph and successor to Uthman dan Fodio, who was concerned with the consolidation and defence of the empire.
https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/journal-of-african-history/article/plantations-in-the-economy-of-the-sokoto-caliphate/9722C361E92B3B5671C2B96D79B2590A
Another notable Islamic slave society was that of the Sokoto caliphate formed by Hausas in sub-Saharan Africa (northern Nigeria and Cameroon) in the 19th century. At least half the population was enslaved. That was only the most notable of the Fulani jihad states of the western and central Sudan, where between 1750 and 1900 from one- to two-thirds of the entire population consisted of slaves.In Islamic Ghana, between 1076 and 1600, about a third of the population were slaves. The same was true among other early states of the western Sudan, including Mali (1200–1500), Segou (1720–1861), and Songhai (1464–1720). It should be noted that slavery was prominent in Ghana and Mali, and presumably elsewhere in Africa in areas for which information is not available, long before the beginnings of the transatlantic slave trade. The population of the notorious slave-trading state of the central Sudan, Ouidah (Whydah), was half-slave in the 19th century. It was about a third in Kanem (1600–1800) and perhaps 40 percent in Bornu (1580–1890). Most slaves probably were acquired by raiding neighbouring peoples, but others entered slavery because of criminal convictions or defaulting on debts (often not their own); subsequently, many of those people were sold into the international slave trade.
https://www.britannica.com/topic/slavery-sociology
In the following article Professor Emeritus Jere L. Bacharach, a specialist in Medieval Middle Eastern history, describes the little known saga of one of the largest groups of persons of African descent in the region, military slaves. These enslaved men, utilized for centuries in the Muslim world, had no counterpart in Europe or the Americas
http://www.blackpast.org/perspectives/african-military-slaves-muslim-middle-east
An attempted coup d'état by the general of the cavalry in 1817 backfired when the cavalry itself revolted and pledged its allegiance to the Sokoto Caliphate. The cavalry was largely composed of Muslim slaves from farther north, and they saw in the jihad a justification for rebellion. In the 1820s, Oyo had been torn asunder, and the defeated king and the warlords of the Oyo Mesi retreated south to form new cities, including Ibadan, where they carried on their resistance to the caliphate and fought among themselves as well.
http://countrystudies.us/nigeria/9.htm
They fought on the side of those who enslaved them. That as well was a choice.
kpr37 with a pagan's perspective.
As Kanye said, "love to all".
]]> Sat, 05 May 2018 00:22:25 -0400 http://thenewstalkers.com/kpr37/blog/1360/linda-sarsours-call-for-a-jihad-in-a-religious-context-as-opposed-to-a-linguistic-context http://thenewstalkers.com/kpr37/blog/1360

Linguistically, the Arabic word "jihad" means a striving or a struggle, no one really disputes that fact. Do they?
But Ms. Sarsour was at the ISNA convention, and clearly seemed to be speaking as a believing pious Muslim in her speech , and not, per se, as a linguist. So that alone, in and of itself, is more than reason enough to examine the theocratic component of "jihad". Leading one to seek clarification and further context of the word, examining the religious constructs, and cultural concepts behind it. Sources that can be used to help us accomplish that task are dictionaries, encyclopedias, and research universities. Jihad is also found clearly described in codified Islamic sources, Quran, hadith, legal text sharia/ fiqh (the reliance of the traveller), and various religious discourses published by widely recognized religious authorities within the community of belief itself.
Definition of Jihad Webster's dictionary


1:  a holy war waged on behalf of Islam as a religious duty; also: a personal struggle in devotion to Islam especially involving spiritual discipline
2: a crusade for a principle or belief


https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/jihad
Definition of jihad Oxford dictionary


1 A struggle or fight against the enemies of Islam.
‘he declared a jihad against the infidels
’ mass noun ‘the importance of jihad as a uniting force’
1.1also greater jihad The spiritual struggle within oneself against sin.


https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/jihad
The " personal struggle" or "greater jihad" is from a hadith classified as Maudu (fabricated, forged) and as such, it can not be found in any of the  "Al-Sihah al-Sittah", which translates as "The authentic six" in Sunni Islam.
https://islamhashtag.com/the-six-sitta-al-sihah-al-sittah-the-authentic-books-on-hadeeth/
Definition of jihad Encyclopedia Britannica


Jihad , also spelled jehad , (“struggle,” or “battle”), a religious duty imposed on Muslims to spread Islam by waging war; jihad has come to denote any conflict waged for principle or belief and is often translated to mean “holy war.”


https://www.britannica.com/topic/jihad
Definition of jihad Oxford University Research Encyclopedias


In both popular and scholarly literature, jihad is primarily assumed to be a monovalent concept referring to “military/armed combat, ” and martyrdom ( shahada ) is inevitably understood to be of the military kind. This assumption facilitates the discussion of jihad and martyrdom as terms with fixed, universal meanings divorced from the varying sociopolitical contexts in which they have been deployed through time. Such a monovalent understanding of these two concepts emerges primarily through consultation of the juridical literature and official histories that were produced after the 2nd century ce (8th century ah) and that are unduly privileged in academic discussions of this subject.
In contradistinction to this approach, a more holistic and historical approach to the term jihad can be undertaken by focusing on the changing significations of jihad from the earliest formative period of Islam to the contemporary period, against the backdrop of specific social and political circumstances which have mediated the meanings of this critical term. This larger objective entails canvassing a more varied genre of texts to recreate a more multifaceted understanding of jihad and martyrdom as dynamic discursive terms through time. Such sources include Qurʾan exegetical works ( tafsir), early and late works of hadith which purport to contain the sayings of the prophet Muhammad, the excellences of jihad ( fadaʾil al-jihad ) and the excellences of patience ( fadaʾil al-sabr ) literatures, which are often not consulted on this topic. Furthermore, the comparison of early and late sources and texts from these genres allows one to chart both the constancies and changes in the spectrum of meanings and repertoire of activities included under the terms jihad and shahada . This recovery of a broader semantic landscape undermines exclusively martial conceptualizations of both these terms and has important implications for the contemporary period.
The Qurʾanic Discourse
The specific Qurʾanic terms that are associated with military activity are jihad, qital , and harb . Jihad, however, is a much broader term and its basic Qurʾanic signification is “struggle,” “striving,” “exertion.”
The lexeme jihad is frequently conjoined to the phrase “fi sabil Allah ” (lit. “in the path of God”)


http://religion.oxfordre.com/view/10.1093/acrefore/9780199340378.001.0001/acrefore-9780199340378-e-46
See "Jihad fi sabilliallah" by Sayyid Abul Ala Maududi   http://www.muslim-library.com/dl/books/English_Jihad_in_Islam.pdf
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abul_A%27la_Maududi
Description of jihad from a Tafsir or Quranic commentary , as recommended above by Oxford University: source Tafsir Ibn Kathir.


Since Jihad involves killing and shedding the blood of men, Allah indicated that these men are committing disbelief in Allah, associating with Him (in the worship) and hindering from His path, and this is a much greater evil and more disastrous than killing. Abu Malik commented about what Allah said:
﴿وَالْفِتْنَةُ أَشَدُّ مِنَ الْقَتْلِ﴾
(And Al-Fitnah is worse than killing.) Meaning what you (disbelievers) are committing is much worse than killing.'' Abu Al-`Aliyah, Mujahid, Sa`id bin Jubayr, `Ikrimah, Al-Hasan, Qatadah, Ad-Dahhak and Ar-Rabi` bin Anas said that what Allah said:
﴿وَالْفِتْنَةُ أَشَدُّ مِنَ الْقَتْلِ﴾
(And Al-Fitnah is worse than killing.) "Shirk (polytheism) is worse than killing.''


http://www.qtafsir.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=233
On page 52 in the footnotes of verse (2:190) from the Noble Quran, published by the Saudi government we find.


(V. 2:190) Al-Jihad (holy fighting) in Allah’s Cause (with full force of numbers and weaponry) is given the utmost importance in Islam and is one of its pillars (on which it stands). By Jihad Islam is established, Allah’s Word is made superior […] and His Religion (Islam) is propagated. By abandoning Jihad (may Allah protect us from that) Islam is destroyed and the Muslims fall into an inferior position; their honour is lost, their lands are stolen, their rule and authority vanish. Jihad is an obligatory duty in Islam on every Muslim, and he who tries to escape from this duty, or does not in his innermost heart wish to fulfill this duty, dies with one of the qualities of a hypocrite.


http://www.gph.gov.sa/qurantrans/files/6_PDFDownloadLinkFull.pdf
Full-text.... jihad in the Quran and Sunnah by Sheikh Abdullah bin Muhammad bin Humaid, ex-Chief Justice of Saudi Arabia and of the Sacred Mosque of Mecca.
https://archive.org/stream/JihadInTheQuranAndSunnah/JihadInTheQuranAndSunnah_djvu.txt
 


In an introductory note to an article “ Jihad in the Qur’an and Sunnah” by Sheikh Abdullah bin Muhammad bin Humaid, ex-Chief Justice of Saudi Arabia and of the Sacred Mosque of Mecca , Abdul Malik Mujahid, General Manager of Maktaba Dar-us-Salam, Saudi Arabia on the website ( www.islamworld.net ) writes:
“Jihad is regarded as the best thing, one can offer voluntarily. It is superior to non-obligatory prayers, fasting, Zakat, Umra and Hajj as mentioned in the Qur'an and the Ahadith of the Prophet(pbuh). The benefits of Jihad are of great extent and large in scope, while its effects are far-reaching and wide-spreading as regards Islam and the Muslims.”
Sheikh Abdullah, ex-Chief Justice of Saudi Arabia defines Jihad as:
“Praise be to Allah swt Who has ordained Al-Jihad (the holy fighting in Allah's Cause):


http://www.kashmirherald.com/featuredarticle/whatisjihad-prn.html
See also Book 56 ( the entire book ) of Sahih Bukhari the most recognized and highly regarded of the authentic six. It has a common theme running through it, that soon becomes apparent to the intellectually inquisitive enough who actually take the time to read it.


Fighting for the Cause of Allah (Jihaad)  
 Chapter: The superiority of Jihad


  https://sunnah.com/bukhari/56
The official 9/11 report defined our nation's enemies as Jihadists. engaged in the holy war


  Who Is the Enemy? Who is this enemy that created an organization capable of inflicting such horrific damage on the United States? We now know that these attacks were carried out by various groups of Islamist extremists. The 9/11 attack was driven by Usama Bin Ladin.
In the 1980s, young Muslims from around the world went to Afghanistan to join as volunteers in a jihad (or holy struggle) against the Soviet Union. A wealthy Saudi, Usama Bin Ladin, was one of them. Following the defeat of the Soviets in the late 1980s, Bin Ladin and others formed al Qaeda to mobilize jihads elsewhere.


https://9-11commission.gov/report/911Report_Exec.htm
From Linda's speech.


Why sisters and brothers, why are we so unprepared. Why are we so afraid of this administration and the potential chaos that they will ensue on our community?…I hope, that when we stand up to those who oppress our communities, that Allah accepts from us that as a form of jihad….We are struggling against tyrants and rulers not only abroad…


In Israel (Hamas/ Hezbollah/Islamic Jihad are struggling), in Afghanistan (al-Qaeda is struggling ),  in Kashmir ( Pakistani ISI / and Iran are struggling ),  in Syria (Islamic state vs the Islamic Republic are struggling),  in Yemen(the Islamic republic vs Saudi Arabia are struggling ), in Lybia (Ansar al-sharia is struggling ), in Sudan (the government is struggling) in Nigeria(Boko haram is struggling ) in Somalia (al Shabaab are struggling) the "struggle " (jihad) continues globally with no end in sight.


but here in the United States of America where you have fascists and white supremacists and Islamophobes reining in the White House.


Of course, Mohammad was a white theocratic supremacist. But Ms. Sarsour will never mention that.


Narrated Anas bin Malik:
While we were sitting with the Prophet (ﷺ) in the mosque, a man came riding on a camel. He made his camel kneel down in the mosque, tied its foreleg and then said: "Who amongst you is Muhammad?" At that time the Prophet (ﷺ) was sitting amongst us (his companions) leaning on his arm. We replied, " This white man reclining on his arm."


http://quranx.com/Hadith/Bukhari/USC-MSA/Volume-1/Book-3/Hadith-63/
 


I have no doubt that Lee Smith (in Tablet ) is correct: Sarsour is a provocateur who was trying to call attention to herself while laying the groundwork to play the victim when she was inevitably criticized. What I have found amusing, however, are the two premises urged by her apologists: (a) we should take the jihad revisionism seriously; and (b) she must have meant “non-violent” jihad because she introduced the term by referring to a hadith in which Mohammed, Islam’s prophet, explains that, rather than violence, “the best form of jihad” is to speak “a word of truth” before a tyrant.
On the first point, jihad is essentially a forcible struggle. As Lee Smith points out, the evidence of sense should tell us all we need to know about it: just look at what is happening “on the killing fields of the Middle East.” Still, we do not need to make a deduction because the meaning of the word is clear, and because non-violent connotations of jihad are understood to be in support of the same mission as forcible jihad: the implementation of sharia, Islam’s societal framework and legal code.


https://pjmedia.com/andrewmccarthy/2017/07/08/a-word-of-truth-about-linda-sarsours-jihad/
Mohammad himself spoke truth to power. He invited the ruler of the Byzantine empire to accept Islam. See full hadith at the link.


"In the name of Allah, the most Beneficent, the most Merciful (This letter is) from Muhammad, the slave of Allah, and His Apostle, to Heraculius, the Ruler of the Byzantine. Peace be upon the followers of guidance. Now then, I invite you to Islam (i.e. surrender to Allah), embrace Islam and you will be safe;


http://www.quranexplorer.com/hadithebook/english/Hadith/bukhari/004.052.191.html
What could his meaning have been? Would there be consequences for declining his offer?


The Book of Jihad and Expedition (Kitab Al-Jihad wa'l-Siyar)
Muslim :: Book 19 : Hadith 4294

It has been reported from Sulaiman b. Buraid through his father that when the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) appointed anyone as leader of an army or detachment he would especially exhort him to fear Allah and to be good to the Muslims who were with him. He would say: Fight in the name of Allah and in the way of Allah. Fight against those who disbelieve in Allah. Make a holy war, do not embezzle the spoils; do not break your pledge; and do not mutilate (the dead) bodies; do not kill the children. When you meet your enemies who are polytheists, invite them to three courses of action. If they respond to any one of these, you also accept it and withold yourself from doing them any harm. Invite them to (accept) Islam; if they respond to you, accept it from them and desist from fighting against them. Then invite them to migrate from their lands to the land of Muhairs and inform them that, if they do so, they shall have all the privileges and obligations of the Muhajirs. If they refuse to migrate, tell them that they will have the status of Bedouin Muilims and will be subjected to the Commands of Allah like other Muslims, but they will not get any share from the spoils of war or Fai' except when they actually fight with the Muslims (against the disbelievers). If they refuse to accept Islam, demand from them the Jizya.


Extortion.


If they agree to pay, accept it from them and hold off your hands. If they refuse to pay the tax, seek Allah's help and fight them . When you lay siege to a fort and the besieged appeal to you for protection in the name of Allah and His Prophet, do not accord to them the guarantee of Allah and His Prophet, but accord to them your own guarantee and the guarantee of your companions for it is a lesser sin that the security given by you or your companions be disregarded than that the security granted in the name of Allah and His Prophet be violated When you besiege a fort and the besieged want you to let them out in accordance with Allah's Command, do not let them come out in accordance with His Command, but do so at your (own) command, for you do not know whether or not you will be able to carry out Allah's behest with regard to them.


http://www.quranexplorer.com/hadithebook/english/hadith/muslim/019.4294.html


Prayers (Salat)
Bukhari :: Book 1 :: Volume 8 :: Hadith 387

Narrated Anas bin Malik:
Allah's Apostle said, "I have been ordered to fight the people till they say: 'None has the right to be worshipped but Allah.' And if they say so, pray like our prayers, face our Qibla and slaughter as we slaughter, then their blood and property will be sacred to us and we will not interfere with them except legally and their reckoning will be with Allah." Narrated Maimun ibn Siyah that he asked Anas bin Malik, "O Abu Hamza! What makes the life and property of a person sacred?" He replied, "Whoever says, 'None has the right to be worshipped but Allah', faces our Qibla during the prayers, prays like us and eats our slaughtered animal, then he is a Muslim, and has got the same rights and obligations as other Muslims have."


http://www.quranexplorer.com/hadithebook/english/Hadith/bukhari/001.008.387.html
  On page 618 in "the reliance of the traveller" Jihad is defined, justified, sourced and explained in great detail. This is not a full presentation of the words, open the link to read all.
https://ia800602.us.archive.org/15/items/RelianceOfTheTraveller1/Reliance%20of%20the%20traveller1.pdf
 


The scriptural basis for jihad, prior to scholarly consensus (def: b7) is such Koranic verses as:
(1) ``Fighting is prescribed for you'' (Koran 2:216);
(2) ``Slay them wherever you find them'' (Koran 4:89);
 (3) ``Fight the idolators utterly'' (Koran 9:36);and such hadiths as the one related by Bukhari and Muslim that the Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) said: `
`I have been commanded to fight people until they testify that there is no god but Allah and that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah, and perform the prayer, and pay zakat. If they say it, they have saved their blood and possessions from me, except for the rights of Islam over them. And their final reckoning is with Allah'';and the hadith reported by Muslim,``To go forth in the morning or evening to fight in the path of Allah is better than the whole world and everything in it.'
'Details concerning jihad are found in the accounts of the military expeditions of the Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace), including his own martial forays and those on which he dispatched others. The former consist of the ones he personally attended, some twenty-seven (others say twenty-nine) of them. He fought in eight of them, and killed only one person with his noble hand, Ubayy ibn Khalaf, at the battle of Uhud. On the latter expeditions he sent others to fight, himself remaining at Medina, and these were forty-seven in number.)
THE OBLIGATORY CHARACTER OF JIHAD
o9.1 Jihad is a communal obligation (def: c3.2). When enough people perform it to successfully accomplish it, it is no longer obligatory upon others (O: the evidence for which is the Prophet's saying (Allah bless him and give him peace),"He who provides the equipment for a soldier in jihad has himself performed jihad,"and Allah Most High having said:"Those of the believers who are unhurt but sit behind are not equal to those who fight in Allah's path with their property and lives. Allah has preferred those who fight with their property and lives a whole degree above those who sit behind. And to each, Allah has promised great good" (Koran 4:95).
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WHO IS OBLIGED TO FIGHT IN JIHAD
o9.4 Those called upon (O: to perform jihad when it is a communal obligation are every able bodied man who has reached puberty and is sane.o9.5 The following may not fight in jihad:
(1) Someone in debt, unless his creditor gives him leave;
(2) or someone with at least one Muslim parent, until they give their permission;unless the Muslims are surrounded by the enemy, in which case it is permissible for them to fight without permission.
o9.6 It is offensive to conduct a military expedition against hostile non-Muslims without the caliph's permission (A: though if there is no caliph (def: o25), no permission is required).
o9.7 Muslims may not seek help from non-Muslims allies unless the Muslims are considerably outnumbered and the allies are of goodwill towards the Muslims.
THE OBJECTIVES OF JIHAD
o9.8 The caliph (o25) makes war upon Jews, Christians, and Zoroastrians (N: provided he has first invited them to enter Islam in faith and practice, and if they will not, then invited them to enter the social order of Islam by paying the non-Muslim poll tax (jizya, def: o11.4)-which is the significance of their paying it, not the money itself-while remaining in their ancestral religions) (O: and the war continues) until they become Muslim or else pay the non-Muslim poll tax (O: in accordance with the word of Allah Most High,"Fight those who do not believe in Allah and the Last Day and who forbid not what Allah and His messenger have forbidden-who do not practice the religion of truth, being of those who have been given the Book-until they pay the poll tax out of hand and are humbled" (Koran 9.29),the time and place for which is before the final descent of Jesus (upon whom be peace). After his final coming, nothing but Islam will be accepted from them, for taking the poll tax is only effective until Jesus' descent (upon him and our Prophet be peace), which is the divinely revealed law of Muhammad. The coming of Jesus does not entail a separate divinely revealed law, for he will rule by the law of Muhammad.
As for the Prophet's saying (Allah bless him and give him peace),"I am the last, there will be no prophet after me,"this does not contradict the final coming of Jesus (upon whom be peace), since he will not rule according to the Evangel, but as a follower of our Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace)).
o9.9 The caliph fights all other peoples until they become Muslim (O: because they are not a people with a Book, nor honored as such, and are not permitted to settle with paying the poll tax (jizya)) (n: though according to the Hanafi school, peoples of all other religions, even idol worshippers, are permitted to live under the protection of the Islamic state if they either become Muslim or agree to pay the poll tax, the sole exceptions to which are apostates from Islam and idol worshippers who are Arabs, neither of whom has any choice but becoming Muslim (al-Hidaya sharh Bidaya al-mubtadi' (y21), 6.48-49)).
THE RULES OF WARFARE
o9.10 It is not permissible (A: in jihad) to kill women or children unless they are fighting against the Muslims. Nor is it permissible to kill animals, unless they are being ridden into battle against the Muslims, or if killing them will help defeat the enemy. It is permissible to kill old men (O: old man (shaykh meaning someone more than forty years of age) and monks.o9.11 It is unlawful to kill a non-Muslim to whom a Muslim has given his guarantee of protection
(O: whether the non-Muslim is one or more than one, provided the number is limited, and the Muslim's protecting them does not harm the Muslims, as when they are spies) provided the protecting Muslim has reached puberty, is sane, and does so voluntarily (O: and is not a prisoner of them or a spy).
o9.12 Whoever enters Islam before being captured may not be killed or his property confiscated, or his young children taken captive.
o9.13 When a child or a woman is taken captive, they become slaves by the fact of capture, and the woman's previous marriage is immediately annulled.
o9.14 When an adult male is taken captive, the caliph (def: o25) considers the interests (O: of Islam and the Muslims) and decides between the prisoner's death, slavery, release without paying anything, or ransoming himself in exchange for money or for a Muslim captive held by the enemy.If the prisoner becomes a Muslim (O: before the caliph chooses any of the four alternatives) then he may not be killed, and one of the other three alternatives is chosen.


 Is there really any controversy surrounding the meaning of these words?


[ The Reliance of the Traveller ] (1250 pp., Sunna Books, 1991) is the first Islamic legal work in a European language to receive the certification of al-Azhar, the Muslim world's oldest institution of higher learning.


http://www.masud.co.uk/ISLAM/nuh/reliance.htm
One of the most discouraging attributes of the Jihad (for the nonbeliever) is its never ending compulsion for the believer to continue "struggling" in the way of allah. It may be temporarily suspended, but never ended. As Stephen Decatur learned after the first Barbary war.


When our gallant [[Stephen] Decatur ref had chastised the pirate of Algiers, till he was ready to renounce his claim of tribute from the United States, he signed a treaty to that effect: but the treaty was drawn up in the Arabic language, as well as in our own; and our negotiators, unacquainted with the language of the Koran, signed the copies of the treaty, in both languages, not imagining that there was any difference between them. Within a year the Dey demands, under penalty of the renewal of the war, an indemnity in money for the frigate taken by Decatur; our Consul demands the foundation of this pretension; and the Arabic copy of the treaty, signed by himself is produced, with an article stipulating the indemnity, foisted into it, in direct opposition to the treaty as it had been concluded. The arrival of Chauncey, with a squadron before Algiers, silenced the fraudulent claim of the Dey, and he signed a new treaty in which it was abandoned; but he disdained to conceal his intentions; my power, said he, has been wrested from my hands; draw ye the treaty at your pleasure, and I will sign it; but beware of the moment, when I shall recover my power, for with that moment, your treaty shall be waste paper.


 And the jihad will resume.
From Page 274 in the American national register, years 1827- 9
http://www.archive.org/stream/p1americanannual29blunuoft#page/n5/mode/2up
From Al Jazeera , they seem to understand what a Jihad is. Do you at this point?


  “When the Islamists seized power in Khartoum, the civil war became jihad. Jihad is a religious and an Islamic term . It has nothing to do with what happened during the civil war. They were determined to do as much harm as possible to non-Muslims. “What really saddens me is that everything was agreed in the CPA to enable unity was then betrayed by the north. “African blood runs through my veins. This is the truth so why are we running away from it? It is shameful, because you’re contradicting yourself. University students, government employees, doctors, engineers and businessmen were kicked out. How can you explain this?” Hassan al-Turabi, leader of the Popular Congress Party – (Sudan)
“I encouraged jihad for good reasons. I wanted them to fight for God’s sake and for the unity of the country.


From the archives of David Litman, Sudan's jihad caused a Genocide  https://www.hmh.org/la_Genocide_Darfur.shtml


 [In 1999, the Sudanese delegation had managed to muzzle a charismatic African leader, the late Dr John Garang, accredited by Christian Solidarity International. The veteran head of the Sudan People’s Liberation Movement (SPLM), later nominated as Sudan’s Vice-President just before his untimely death in summer 2005, came to the UN Commission on Human Rights as the representative of the long-suffering Christian and animist in Southern Sudan. On 23 March 1999 he was twice stopped on a ‘point of order’ by the delegation of Sudan before he could ask a key question on “the genocidal character of the war in Sudan” In 1992, the regime in Khartoum declared Jihad in Khartoum against the people of southern Sudan and the Nuba mountains. Since then, Jihad has been declared again and again. I ask this very important question: is the Jihad a religious right of those who declare and wage it or is it a violation of the human rights of the people against whom it is declared and waged ?] (21)
[A day later the former Sudanese Prime Minister Al-Sadiq Al-Mahdi sent his letter to Mary Robinson, in which he referred to Jihad and slavery in Sudan – his letter was widely circulated at the Commission. Under the title, War Crimes, he asked (his 5th question): “Is it legitimate for the ruling regime in an Islamic State to call for a JIHAD against its citizens, be they Muslims or Christians? ” He concluded by writing that: although no one would justify slavery today, under shar’ia, “the traditional concept of JIHAD does allow slavery as a by-product.”]


http://www.icjs-online.org/indarch.php?article=1418
At one minute and forty-eight seconds Ms.Sarsour in the embedded video, at the top of the article mentions who is her “favorite person" in the room, Imam Siraj Wahaj, praising him as her “mentor, motivator and encourager.”
Here is Imam Siraj Wahaj,  her “mentor, motivator, and encourager", commenting on Jihad.

 
 
 
 
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I dedicate this to Janus, the two faced god of beginnings.
After well more than a decade, the war still rages on with no end visible on the horizon. Three American presidents have now sat in that seat of power, and nothing changed nor does it look likely to be improving anytime soon.
The first man in office to address the subject of Islam in the public sphere after a national atrocity was committed in the name of Islam was George Bush. I personally don't believe Bush was capable of forming a sophist opinion, I believe he was just engaged in wishful thinking.


"Islam is Peace" Says President Remarks by the President at Islamic Center of Washington, D.C. Washington, D.C.


https://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2001/09/20010917-11.html
Bush served two terms, he fought two major conflicts with an enemy defined as "terrorists" "evil doers" a poorly descriptive terminology to properly identify the combatants we were engaged in warfare with. They called themselves mujahideen or holy warriors. They were in their own minds, jihadists struggling in the way of allah (jihad fi sabilillah)
 
The second man in the seat of power during this generational conflict also served two terms. Obama was, in my opinion, a "sophist" in classic Greek terminology.


HOWARD DEAN: I think that's right. I think actually that's the problem. The problem here is not the president. It’s the media. The media doesn't know how to deal with a more sophisticated foreign policy.


Source Real clear politics  The media doesn't know how to deal with a more sophisticated foreign policy
That is just a claim by Howard Dean, however, a real sophisticate was also a   cosmopolitanism or a citizen of the world. His allegiance was to humanity, a cosmopolitan claimed no nation, state or city of his own. The last people you want with you if you find yourself with a sudden and pressing need to defend hearth and home.


Nevertheless, the speech left the sense that Obama was not speaking merely metaphorically when he described himself as a "citizen" of the world.


source real clear politics Obama a citizen of the world.
That American President did seem to share some ideological similarities with the classic sophisticate world view.
soph·ist·ry


 : the use of reasoning or arguments that sound correct but are actually false
: a reason or argument that sounds correct but is actually false
Full Definition of SOPHISTRY
1 :   subtly deceptive reasoning or argumentation


http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sophistry
So I begin this narrative with the Sophist Protagoras of Abdera. Who's life gave birth to the word "protagonist". A member of the Greek Sophist movement. Who exhibited the very bad habit of rejecting reality outright when it conflicted with its dogmas. This became more apparent as the Peloponnesian War progressed into its second and third decades. Then with Sparta joining an alliance with Persia , it was too much for many of them, and the insanity affected their philosophy greatly. Bringing great discredit to the school of the sophisticate Philosophers of old.


A key figure in the emergence of this new type of sophist was Protagoras of Abdera


 source Stanford University 
An excerpt from Plato's Protagoras.
 


By the gods, I said, and are you not ashamed at having to appear before the Hellenes in the character of a Sophist?
Indeed, Socrates, to confess the truth, I am. But you should not assume, Hippocrates, that the instruction of Protagoras is of this nature: may you not learn of him in the same way that you learned the arts of the grammarian, musician, or trainer, not with the view of making any of them a profession, but only as a part of education, and because a private gentleman and freeman ought to know them?
Just so, he said; and that, in my opinion, is a far truer account of the teaching of Protagoras.
I said: I wonder whether you know what you are doing? And what am I doing? You are going to commit your soul to the care of a man whom you call a Sophist. And yet I hardly think that you know what a Sophist is; and if not, then you do not even know to whom you are committing your soul and whether the thing to which you commit yourself be good or evil.
I certainly think that I do know, he replied. Then tell me, what do you imagine that he is? I take him to be one who knows wise things, he replied, as his name implies.
And might you not, I said, affirm this of the painter and of the carpenter also: Do not they, too, know wise things? But suppose a person were to ask us: In what are the painters wise? We should answer: In what relates to the making of likenesses, and similarly of other things. And if he were further to ask: What is the wisdom of the Sophist, and what is the manufacture over which he presides?-how should we answer him?
How should we answer him, Socrates? What other answer could there be but that he presides over the art which makes men eloquent?
Yes, I replied, that is very likely true, but not enough; for in the answer a further question is involved: Of what does the Sophist make a man talk eloquently? The player on the lyre may be supposed to make a man talk eloquently about that which he makes him understand, that is about playing the lyre. Is not that true?
Yes. Then about what does the Sophist make him eloquent? Must not he make him eloquent in that which he understands?
Yes, that may be assumed. And what is that which the Sophist knows and makes his disciple know?
Indeed, he said, I cannot tell. Then I proceeded to say: Well, but are you aware of the danger which you are incurring? If you were going to commit your body to some one, who might do good or harm to it, would you not carefully consider and ask the opinion of your friends and kindred, and deliberate many days as to whether you should give him the care of your body? But when the soul is in question, which you hold to be of far more value than the body, and upon the good or evil of which depends the well-being of your all,- about this never consulted either with your father or with your brother or with any one of us who are your companions. But no sooner does this foreigner appear, than you instantly commit your soul to his keeping. In the evening, as you say, you hear of him, and in the morning you go to him, never deliberating or taking the opinion of any one as to whether you ought to intrust yourself to him or not;-you have quite made up your mind that you will at all hazards be a pupil of Protagoras, and are prepared to expend all the property of yourself and of your friends in carrying out at any price this determination, although, as you admit, you do not know him, and have never spoken with him: and you call him a Sophist, but are manifestly ignorant of what a Sophist is; and yet you are going to commit yourself to his keeping.
When he heard me say this, he replied: No other inference, Socrates, can be drawn from your words.
I proceeded: Is not a Sophist, Hippocrates, one who deals wholesale or retail in the food of the soul? To me that appears to be his nature.
And what, Socrates, is the food of the soul? Surely, I said, knowledge is the food of the soul; and we must take care, my friend, that the Sophist does not deceive us when he praises what he sells, like the dealers wholesale or retail who sell the food of the body; for they praise indiscriminately all their goods, without knowing what are really beneficial or hurtful : neither do their customers know, with the exception of any trainer or physician who may happen to buy of them. In like manner those who carry about the wares of knowledge, and make the round of the cities, and sell or retail them to any customer who is in want of them, praise them all alike; though I should not wonder, O my friend, if many of them were really ignorant of their effect upon the soul; and their customers equally ignorant, unless he who buys of them happens to be a physician of the soul. If, therefore, you have understanding of what is good and evil, you may safely buy knowledge of Protagoras or of any one; but if not, then , O my friend, pause, and do not hazard your dearest interests at a game of chance. For there is far greater peril in buying knowledge than in buying meat and drink


http://classics.mit.edu/Plato/protagoras.html
 
In the modern world, the word "Protagonist" is taken from the living human Protagoras of Abdera
See word synonyms, antonyms, related words and near antonyms so you  "get"  the words religious connotations. It's only the more irrational memes of man (religion) that can produce such delusion in an otherwise intelligent human.
Protagoras quote.


No intelligent man believes that anybody ever willingly errs or willingly does base and evil deeds; they are well aware that all who do base and evil things do them unwillingly.


source brainy quotes
By usage of strident rhetoric, a nonsensical unsupportable dogma is advanced.
Paraphrasing Protagoras for the modern age.


No intelligent human (liberal/progressive) believes that any Muslim ever willingly errs or willingly does base and evil deeds according to beliefs; they are well aware that all who do base and evil things do them unwillingly.


This linked dogma is nonsense of course. Man is well capable of using human self-motivated reasoning to accomplish "evil" deeds and acts. Most all of human history (murders, rapes, slavery, genocide,) is confirmation of this simple fact.   Only those who were, and are today,  sophisticated (indoctrinated by political correctness in this modern case) will find a reason to believe it.   
"Sophisticated opinion".... Detailed and comprehensive instruction on said "evil" and 'base deeds' can not be found on page 618 of an imaginary book. That for all we know for sure, may, or may not even exist. We just don't know, we can neither prove nor disprove this so called "book" has an alleged earthly existence......... https://ia800602.us.archive.org/15/items/RelianceOfTheTraveller1/Reliance%20of%20the%20traveller1.pdf
Many place Zeno in the Stoic philosophical school, his contemporaries did not limit him, so neither do I. 


Should we then think of Zeno as a sophist? Certainly Isocrates, the rhetorician and contemporary of Plato, did not hesitate to lump Gorgias, Zeno, and Melissus together as among the other “sophists” flourishing in the era of Protagoras and all producing tedious treatises advocating the most outrageous claims (Isoc. Hel . [ Orat. 10] 2–3). While there are difficulties in giving precise definition to the term “sophist,” one feature common to those normally classed as such that Zeno lacks is an interest in the interrogation of cultural norms and values. Zeno's influence, however, on the great sophists who were his contemporaries and, more generally, on the techniques of argumentation promulgated among the sophists seems undeniable.


source Stanford University Zeno Elea
The intrusion of reality into the modern sophisticated leftist delusion has yet to truly manifest itself in any meaningful way. But we are very near its full fruition   I will fill the role of the antagonist in this narrative of reality.  The slow motion intrusion of reality into the sophisticated leftist delusion is happening now.  
Sophisticated, more nuanced they love to say is their view of the world today.
Thucydides, on the other hand, was a "realist" philosopher who said and believed that.


 "we can rest satisfied with having proceed upon the clearest data, and having arrived at conclusions as exact as can be expected" ( Thucydides 1.21.1 ). Some of the data we receive may be flawed, Thucydides says, but by evaluating and analyzing the data, the truth can be found.


source  Tufts University .
1.1.1 General Features of Realism in International Relations


International relations realists emphasize the constraints imposed on politics by the nature of human beings, whom they consider egoistic, and by the absence of international government. Together these factors contribute to a conflict-based paradigm of international relations, in which the key actors are states, in which power and security become the main issues, and in which there is little place for morality. The set of premises concerning state actors, egoism, anarchy, power, security, and morality that define the realist tradition are all present in Thucydides.


source Stanford University
 Thucydides Conclusions about Human Nature


The conclusions Thucydides reaches about human nature from his analysis of the revolt at Corcyra are not very positive. He begins by saying "Death thus raged in every shape; ( kpr37 link) and, as usually happens at such times, there was no length to which violence did not go" ( Thucydides 3.81.5 ) and then goes on to describe in particular how people's actions and opinions changed. He says that "Words had to change their ordinary meaning and to take that which was now given them " ( Thucydides 3. 82.4 )


source  Tufts University .
After more than a decade, the war still rages on, with no end in sight. "Words had to change their ordinary meaning and to take that which was now given them "
 
It exposed the flaws in their philosophy for all to see and many to critique viciously. Many modern progressives advance the same delusional methods of the sophists, still today, despite the obvious faults in their theories of arguments.
 
Some words in twenty-first century America are now still under assault after more than a decade of conflict. Words that can not mean what they do, otherwise a deeply held, very sophisticated progressive delusion literally falls apart


  Jihad: a war fought by Muslims to defend or spread their beliefs
Full Definition of JIHAD
1 :   a holy war waged on behalf of Islam as a religious duty; also :   a personal struggle in devotion to Islam especially involving spiritual discipline


 source https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/jihad


Fundamentalism :   a movement or attitude stressing strict and literal adherence to a set of basic principles


source https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fundamentalism


Radical: very new and different from what is traditional or ordinary


source https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/radical
Using the "logic" of that line of reasoning (sophistry ) what group would Yusuf al-Qaradawi be in, as opposed to say, Mahmoud Mohammed Taha. Who is the radical?
 If words do not describe reality, they describe nonsense!
http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2006/09/11/the-moderate-martyr
https://rlp.hds.harvard.edu/faq/yusuf-al-qaradawi-0


For whoever habitually suppresses the truth in the interests of tact will produce a deformity from the womb of his thought.


- Sir Basil H. Liddel-Hart
 
The sophist wishes to forget or chooses not to remember just how long this conflict is proving to be.
From John Adams."We ought not to fight them at all unless we determine to fight them forever."


Your favour of the 11th, instant I have recd. There are great and weighty Considerations urged \in it/ in favour of arming against the Algerines, and I confess, if our States could be brought to agree, in the Measure, I Should be very willing to resolve upon eternal War with them. But in such a Case We ought to conduct the War with Vigour, and protect our Trade and People. The Resolution to fight them would raise the Spirits and Courage of our Countrymen immediately, and We might obtain the Glory of finally breaking up these nests of Banditts. But Congress will never, or at least not for years, take any Such Resolution, and in the meantime our Trade and Honour suffers beyond Calculation.— We ought not to fight them at all, unless We determine to fight them forever.


http://rotunda.upress.virginia.edu/founders/FOEA-03-01-02-0745
 
Adams was commenting on the Barbary war.


Jefferson, together with his contemporary, John Adams, who was then serving as the Ambassador to England, met with the Ambassador from Tripoli, Sidi Haji Abdul Rahman Adja, in an attempt to understand why American ships were being attacked and Americans being taken hostage. In a report to the then Secretary of State John Jay, Jefferson cites the Ambassador as saying:


"It was written in their Koran, that all nations which had not acknowledged the Prophet were sinners, whom it was the right and duty of the faithful to plunder and enslave; and that every mussulman who was slain in this warfare was sure to go to paradise. He said, also, that the man who was the first to board a vessel had one slave over and above his share, and that when they sprang to the deck of an enemy's ship, every sailor held a dagger in each hand and a third in his mouth; which usually struck such terror into the foe that they cried out for quarter at once. x"


Scholars recognize the ambassador's paraphrasing of the "Sword Verse" ( Surah 9:5 ), as the Qur'anic passage sometimes used to justify jihad is popularly known. The document is an excellent summation of the pirate's motivations. It may also be read as an eerie foreshadowing of the rationale claimed by some terrorists today.


 
http://www.oxfordislamicstudies.com/Public/focus/essay1009_jefferson.html
Osama Bin Laden quoted 9:5 in his 1996 fatwa ( http://www.comw.org/pda/fulltext/960823binladen.html )   or his Islamic justification for the course of action he was about to undertake, directly leading to the attack targeting New York City on September the 11 2001. This was published worldwide, and as well as notification of his intent, it was also a call to join him and his "struggle" or jihad.


It is a duty now on every tribe in the Arab Peninsula to fight, Jihad, in the cause of Allah and to cleanse the land from those occupiers. Allah knows that there blood is permitted (to be spilled) and their wealth is a booty; their wealth is a booty to those who kill them. The most Exalted said in the verse of As-Sayef, The Sword: “so when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters where ever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush” (At-Tauba; 9:5).


Two years later he cited verse 9:5 a second time https://fas.org/irp/world/para/docs/980223-fatwa.htm
Let us examine the verse of the sword. This verse has been cited as the reason for conflict from the founding of our nation, to the present time. I will link the surrounding verses as well so we see it in its natural context.


009.002 PICKTHAL: Travel freely in the land four months, and know that ye cannot escape Allah and that Allah will confound the disbelievers (in His Guidance).


http://www.islamawakened.com/quran/9/2/default.htm


009.003 PICKTHAL: And a proclamation from Allah and His messenger to all men on the day of the Greater Pilgrimage that Allah is free from obligation to the idolaters, and (so is) His messenger. So, if ye repent, it will be better for you; but if ye are averse, then know that ye cannot escape Allah. Give tidings (O Muhammad) of a painful doom to those who disbelieve,


http://islamawakened.com/quran/9/3/


009.004 PICKTHAL: Excepting those of the idolaters with whom ye (Muslims) have a treaty, and who have since abated nothing of your right nor have supported anyone against you. (As for these), fulfil their treaty to them till their term. Lo! Allah loveth those who keep their duty (unto Him).


http://islamawakened.com/quran/9/4/


009.005 PICKTHAL: Then, when the sacred months have passed, slay the idolaters wherever ye find them, and take them (captive), and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush. But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due, then leave their way free. Lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.


http://islamawakened.com/quran/9/5/


009.006 PICKTHAL: And if anyone of the idolaters seeketh thy protection (O Muhammad), then protect him so that he may hear the Word of Allah, and afterward convey him to his place of safety. That is because they are


http://islamawakened.com/quran/9/6/
I only used Pickthal's as he is the most widely known English translation.
Did not the classical scholars such as Ibn Abbas ( http://www.altafsir.com/Tafasir.asp?tMadhNo=2&tTafsirNo=73&tSoraNo=9&tAyahNo=5&tDisplay=yes&UserProfile=0&LanguageId=2 ) or Imam Ibn Kathir of the Shafi school of Islamic jurisprudence have the proper understanding of these Qur'anic verses ( http://www.qtafsir.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2581&Itemid=64)
Let's start at the beginning of the linked tafsir. It starts here, Ibn Kathir links verses 9:2 through 9:6 in his commentary on the verse of the sword.
Here is the corresponding tafsir of Ibn Kathir


This is the ayah of the sword
[فَسِيحُواْ فِى الاٌّرْضِ أَرْبَعَةَ أَشْهُرٍ]
Mujahid, `Amr bin Shu`ayb, Muhammad bin Ishaq, Qatadah, As-Suddi and `Abdur-Rahman bin Zayd bin Aslam said that the four months mentioned in this Ayah are the four-month grace period mentioned in the earlier Ayah,
(So travel freely for four months throughout the land.) Allah said next,
[فَإِذَا انسَلَخَ الأَشْهُرُ الْحُرُمُ]
(So when the Sacred Months have passed...), meaning, `Upon the end of the four months during which


the four months in question passed, about 1400 years ago


We prohibited you from fighting the idolators,


Idolaters.... people not yet Muslim


and which is the grace period We gave them, then fight and kill the idolators wherever you may find them.' Allah's statement next,
[فَاقْتُلُواْ الْمُشْرِكِينَ حَيْثُ وَجَدتُّمُوهُمْ]
(then fight the Mushrikin wherever you find them), means, on the earth in general, except for the Sacred Area, for Allah said,
fight them everywhere on this earth, but Mecca
[وَلاَ تُقَـتِلُوهُمْ عِندَ الْمَسْجِدِ الْحَرَامِ حَتَّى يُقَـتِلُوكُمْ فِيهِ فَإِن قَـتَلُوكُمْ فَاقْتُلُوهُمْ]
(And fight not with them at Al-Masjid Al-Haram, unless they fight you there. But if they attack you, then fight them. )[2:191] Allah said here,


But if you must fight in Mecca, it's Ok


[وَخُذُوهُمْ]
(and capture them), executing some and keeping some as prisoners,
[وَاحْصُرُوهُمْ وَاقْعُدُواْ لَهُمْ كُلَّ مَرْصَدٍ]
( and besiege them, and lie in wait for them in each and every ambush),
do not wait until you find them.


Don't sit a home... go out and look for them


Rather, seek and besiege them in their areas and forts, gather intelligence about them in the various roads and fairways so that what is made wide looks ever smaller to them.


Search them out, use all means at you disposal


This way, they will have no choice, but to die or embrace Islam,


This seems rather unequivocal, and certain in its intent.
As I am a Goddess worshiping pagan and am quite happy in my faith. This, the above verse, may generate great animosity from the remaining members of humanity who freely choose to disbelieve in the prophethood of a murderous pedophile. I also put forth the proposition, that this is in fact, a violation of my human rights, and a hate crime.


[فَإِن تَابُواْ وَأَقَامُواْ الصَّلَوةَ وَءاتَوُاْ الزَّكَوةَ فَخَلُّواْ سَبِيلَهُمْ إِنَّ اللَّهَ غَفُورٌ رَّحِيمٌ]
(But if they repent and perform the Salah,


If they convert to Islam'


and give the Zakah,then leave their way free. Verily, Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.)
Abu Bakr As-Siddiq used this and other honorable Ayat as proof for fighting those who refrained from paying the Zakah.
These Ayat allowed fighting people unless, and until, they embrace Islam and implement its rulings and obligations.


One more time, I state clearly. I do not wish to become a Muslim !!!!!


Allah mentioned the most important aspects of Islam here, including what is less important. Surely, the highest elements of Islam after the Two Testimonials, are the prayer, which is the right of Allah, the Exalted and Ever High, then the Zakah, which benefits the poor and needy. These are the most honorable acts that creatures perform, and this is why Allah often mentions the prayer and Zakah together. In the Two Sahihs, it is recorded that Ibn `Umar said that the Messenger of Allah said,
«أُمِرْتُ أَنْ أُقَاتِلَ النَّاسَ حَتَّى يَشْهَدُوا أَنْ لَا إِلَهَ إِلَّا اللهُ وَأَنَّ مُحَمَّدًا رَسُولُ اللهِ وَيُقِيمُوا الصَّلَاةَ وَيُؤْتُوا الزَّكَاة»
( I have been commanded to fight the people until they testify that there is no deity worthy of worship except Allah and that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah, establish the prayer and pay the Zakah.)


I think this is pretty much self-explanatory...is it not?


This honorable Ayah (9:5) was called the Ayah of the Sword , about which Ad-Dahhak bin Muzahim said,


" It abrogated every agreement of peace between the Prophet and any idolator, every treaty, and every term .''
this ABROGATED all peaceful Qur'anic verses that came before


Al-`Awfi said that Ibn `Abbas commented:
"No idolator had any more treaty or promise of safety ever since Surah Bara'ah was revealed. The four months, in addition to, all peace treaties conducted before Bara'ah was revealed and announced had ended by the tenth of the month of Rabi` Al-Akhir.''
[وَإِنْ أَحَدٌ مِّنَ الْمُشْرِكِينَ اسْتَجَارَكَ فَأَجِرْهُ حَتَّى يَسْمَعَ كَلاَمَ اللَّهِ ثُمَّ أَبْلِغْهُ مَأْمَنَهُ ذَلِكَ بِأَنَّهُمْ قَوْمٌ لاَّ يَعْلَمُونَ ]
(6. And if anyone of the Mushrikin seeks your protection then grant him protection so that he may hear the Word of Allah (the Qur'an) and then escort him to where he can be secure, that is because they are men who know not.)


so that he may hear the Word of Allah and naturally, become a Muslim.
But what if he does not accept Islam?
After all, you have just read. Why would the CLEAR MESSAGE of the verse need to be repeated?


( I have been commanded to fight the people until they testify that there is no deity worthy of worship except Allah and that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah


http://www.tafsir.com/default.asp?sid=9&tid=20750
Truth is often self-evident.
Note to the third man to sit in the chair of power, Donald Trump.....


  History repeats itself, first as tragedy, then as farce. 


 
Karl Marx
 
 
 ]]> Wed, 06 Sep 2017 00:27:18 -0400 http://thenewstalkers.com/kpr37/blog/1316/women-in-islam-and-women-not-as-of-yet-submitted-in-europe http://thenewstalkers.com/kpr37/blog/1316
From the August 23 copy of the spectator, couple paragraphs in.


But this year Islamists are specifically targeting women. When Salman Abedi detonated his suicide bomb at the Ariana Grande concert in May, killing seventeen females (and five males), he did so knowing it would be full of teenage girls and young women. In July, two German women were  fatally stabbed by an Egyptian man at the Red Sea resort of Hurghada. This attack bore similarities to Saturday’s outrage in the Finnish city of Turku, where an 18-year-old Moroccan allegedly stabbed eight women, two of whom died. Two days earlier, the only fatality in an Islamist attack at Cambrils was a 61-year-old woman.
The Islamists are deliberately targeting women because in their minds they represent empowerment and enlightenment, and also immodesty. Three young women were among the eight people stabbed to death during the London Bridge attack in June, and many more were wounded, including an Australian, who recalled her attacker screamed “Stop living this life” as he slashed at her throat.
In the hundred years since female emancipation began gaining momentum in the West, there have been significant reactions in the Islamic world. The first was the creation in Egypt of the Muslim Brotherhood in 1928, its founder, Imam Hassan al-Banna,  demanding an “Islamic renewal” faced with creeping Western influence. Al-Banna wasn’t a fan of the West, especially not Mae West, nor Jazz or bobbed haircuts, raging against the importation of “half-naked women into these regions, together with their liquors, their theatres, their dance halls, their amusements, their stories, their newspapers, their novels, their whims.”
One of the Brotherhood’s most influential figures in the post-war period was Sayyid Qutb, an Egyptian who went to the USA on a year’s scholarship in 1949 and returned home radicalised. Another World War had imbued a fresh generation of young western women with confidence and Qutb was disgusted by the female students he encountered in Colorado. He wrote of attending a dance where “the room convulsed with the feverish music…dancing naked legs filled the hall, arms draped around the waists, chests met chests, lips met lips”
But the 1940s generation was conservative compared to what came in the 1960s, the Sexual Revolution created a cultural earthquake, the tremors of which were felt in the Middle East. In Egypt, Afghanistan and across the region women let their hair down, literally, doing away with headscarves and dressing in mini-skirts. In Iran, the Shah gave women the vote and encouraged them to get a good education. The result was another Revolution, this one Islamic: Ayatollah Khomeini coming to power in 1979 and immediately stripping women of their rights.
Which brings us to the fourth seminal moment, the spread throughout Europe of Salafism, the ultra-conservative strand of Islam inspired by 7th Century Arabia


https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2017/08/why-western-women-are-now-the-islamists-target-of-choice/
If we "examine Islam", the prophet's Islam of the seventh century it's likely we find an explanation for the objectional behavior. How would one go about enforcing Islamic gender apartheid in Europe? Perhaps coordinated attacks unprecedented in scale and nature may bring the issue to the forefront of debate? Misogynistic attitudes arising from a religious or cultural milieu, surging testosterone, and a supremacist ideology are never even a topic of discussion in a politically correct setting, or in any progressive intellectual environment at all


BERLIN — German authorities said Tuesday that coordinated attacks in which young women were sexually harassed and robbed by hundreds of young men on New Year’s Eve in the western city of Cologne were unprecedented in scale and nature.


http://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/coordinated-attacks-on-women-in-cologne-were-unprecedented-germany-says/
 First some background on verse 33:59 and subsequent verses 60, 61, 62 , which were revealed after the Hijrah, or shortly after the followers of the prophet had emigrated to a town (Medina) that had yet to experience Islam (submission) first hand. And well before Mohammad became the unquestioned theocratic dictator of Medina, as well as the entire Arabian peninsula within his lifetime. 
 


This was the Hijrah – anglicized as Hegira – usually, but inaccurately, translated as “Flight” – from which the Muslim era is dated. In fact, the Hijrah was not a flight but a carefully planned migration which marks not only a break in history – the beginning of the Islamic era- but also, for Muhammad and the Muslims, a new way of life. Henceforth, the organizational principle of the community was not to be mere blood kinship, but the greater brotherhood of all Muslims.


 The Westphalian concept of the sovereignty of nation states did not exist at that time in the Arabian Peninsula.(or any place else) It was your personal submission to the prophet, that made you a member of the community (Ummah).
http://www.islamicity.org/6327/history-of-hijrah-migration-for-peace-and-justice/
While at first Mohammad, accompanied by his companions, were invited among the inhabitants of Medina and warmly welcomed, yet after a short time span some members of the non-Muslim community existing previous to the emigrants arrival as the indigenous peoples (Jews, pagan Arabs) of the area, quickly started questioning the wisdom of that decision. Mohammad had to reorder society to conform to his newly revealed Islamic norm, a voice in his head (allah) instructed him on the proper way to accomplish this task.
There  are verses  suggesting attacking non-Muslim women ( 33:59 and subsequent verses 60, 61, 62)
Now this series of verses in question, can they be read as a compulsion or suggestion to sexually assault women? As a way of establishing the Islamic hegemonic tradition of sharia.


(59. O Prophet! Tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to draw their Jalabib over their bodies. That will be better that they should be known so as not to be annoyed.And Allah is Ever Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.) (60. If the hypocrites and those in whose hearts is a disease, and those who spread false news among the people in Al-Madinah stop not, We shall certainly let you overpower them, then they will not be able to stay in it as your neighbors but a little while .) (61. Accursed, they shall be seized wherever found, and killed with a (terrible) slaughter.) (62. That was the way of Allah in the case of those who passed away of old, and you will not find any change in the way of Allah.)


http://www.qtafsir.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1818&Itemid=89
 The tafsir of Sayyid Abul Ala Maududi informs me that the verse refers to needed social reform, and how it was implemented by the prophet.


In verse 59 the third step for social reform was taken . All the Muslim women were commanded that they should come out well covered with the outer garments and covering their faces whenever they came out of their houses for a genuine need.
After this till the end of the Surah the hypocrites and other foolish and mean people have been rebuked for the propaganda that they were carrying on at that time against Islam and the Muslims.


http://englishtafsir.com/Quran/33/index.html
A brief summary of the events surrounding revelation can be found in the tafsir of Ibn Kathir verse 33:60.


Then Allah issues a warning to the hypocrites, those who make an outward display of faith while concealing their disbelief,
﴿وَالَّذِينَ فِي قُلُوبِهِم مَّرَضٌ﴾
(those in whose hearts is a disease,)


In verse 9:125 the disease is defined as not having a belief in Allah.


`Ikrimah and others said that this refers to adulterers in this instance.
﴿وَالْمُرْجِفُونَ فِى الْمَدِينَةِ﴾
(and those who spread false news among the people in Al-Madinah) means, those who say that the enemy has come and war has started, which is a lie and a fabrication.


In reality .. war had come with Mohammad. But the truth is Ghibah or "backstabbing" in Islamic theocratic discourse.
 


"(It is when you mention something about your brother that he dislikes. ) It was asked, " But what if what I say about my brother is true'' He said,
 
«إِنْ كَانَ فِيهِ مَا تَقُولُ فَقَدِ اغْتَبْتَهُ، وَإِنْ لَمْ يَكُنْ فِيهِ مَا تَقُولُ فَقَدْ بَهَتَّه»
 
( If it is true, then you have committed backbiting (Ghibah) about him, and if it is not true, then you have slandered him.) This was also recorded by At-Tirmidhi, who said, "Hasan Sahih".
 Unless they give up these actions and return to the truth,
﴿لَنُغْرِيَنَّكَ بِهِمْ﴾
(We shall certainly let you overpower them,) `Ali bin Abi Talhah reported that Ibn `Abbas said, "We will give you power over them.' ' Qatadah said: "We will incite you against them.' ' As-Suddi said: "We will inform you about them.''
﴿ثُمَّ لاَ يُجَاوِرُونَكَ فِيهَآ﴾
(then they will not be able to stay in it) means, in Al-Madinah,
﴿إِلاَّ قَلِيلاًمَّلْعُونِينَ﴾
(but a little while. Accursed...) `this describes their state while they are in Al-Madinah for this short time before they are expelled and sent far away.'
﴿أَيْنَمَا ثُقِفُواْ أُخِذُواْ﴾
(they shall be seized wherever found, ) means, `they will be attacked, because they are so weak and so few,'
﴿وَقُتِّلُواْ تَقْتِيلاً﴾
(and killed with a (terrible) slaughter.) Then Allah says:
﴿سُنَّةَ اللَّهِ فِى الَّذِينَ خَلَوْاْ مِن قَبْلُ﴾
(That was the way of Allah in the case of those who passed away of old,) meaning, this is how Allah dealt with the hypocrites when they persisted in hypocrisy and disbelief and did not give it up; He incited the believers against them and caused them to prevail over them.
﴿وَلَن تَجِدَ لِسُنَّةِ اللَّهِ تَبْدِيلاً﴾
(and you will not find any change in the way of Allah. ) means, the way in which Allah deals with this does not alter or change.


http://www.qtafsir.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1816&Itemid=89
Thirty or more translation of verse 33:59 can be found here.
http://www.islamawakened.com/quran/33/59/default.htm


"a ayyuha alnnabiyyu qul li-azwajika wabanatika wanisa-i almu/mineena yudneena AAalayhinna min jalabeebihinna thalika adna an yuAArafna fala yu/thayna wakana Allahu ghafooran raheeman"


 


(59. O Prophet! Tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to draw their Jalabib over their bodies. That will be better that they should be known so as not to be annoyed . And Allah is Ever Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.


The seventeenth word "annoyed" of the linked verse is yu/thayna or (Spelling) yu'dhayna
Welcome to the Quranic Arabic Corpus , an annotated linguistic resource which shows the Arabic grammar, syntax and morphology for each word in the Holy Quran. Click on an Arabic word below to see details of the word's grammar, or to suggest a correction


(33:59: 15) yuʿ'rafna
they should be known
V – 3rd person feminine plural passive imperfect verb, subjunctive mood PRON – subject pronoun
فعل مضارع مبني للمجهول منصوب والنون ضمير متصل في محل رفع نائب فاعل (33:59 :16 ) falā
and not
CONJ – prefixed conjunction fa (and) NEG – negative particle
الفاء عاطفة حرف نفي (33:59: 17 ) yu'dhayna
harmed.
  V – 3rd person feminine plural (form IV) passive imperfect verb, subjunctive mood PRON – subject pronoun فعل مضارع مبني للمجهول منصوب والنون ضمير متصل في محل رفع نائب فاعل


http://corpus.quran.com/wordbyword.jsp?chapter=33&verse=59
The literal translation of the word is harmed , but other words are used as well in various translations. I have linked some below.
The "they" that the verse references, are believing women or Muslims.
"They should be known and not harmed"....... by outward signs or displays of piety.


Yusuf Ali (Orig. 1938)  - O Prophet! Tell thy wives and daughters, and the believing women, that they should cast their outer garments over their persons (when abroad): that is most convenient, that they should be known (as such) and not molested. And God is Oft- Forgi ving, Most Merciful.  
Dr. Laleh Bakhtiar  - O Prophet! Say to thy spouses (f) and thy daughters and the females, ones who believe to draw closer their (f) outer garments over themselves (f). That is more fitting so that they (f) be recognized and not be maligned . And God had been Forgiving, Compassionate.  
Wahiduddin Khan  - O Prophet! Tell your wives and your daughters and wives of the believers that they should draw over themselves some of their outer garments [when in public], so as to be recognized and not harmed . God is most forgiving and most merciful.  
T.B.Irving  - 0 Prophet, tell your wives and daughters, and believers´ wives as well, to draw their cloaks close around themselves. That is more appropriate so they may be recognized and not molested . God is Forgiving, Merciful.  
[Al-Muntakhab]  - O you the Prophet: Tell your wives and your daughters and all Muslim women to dress in flowing outer garments which cover them over. This makes it less likely to be identified and be assaulted. And Allah has always been Ghafurun and Rahimun.  


Submissive women (Muslims are those who submit) are not to be assaulted, molested or harmed if self-identification is confirmed by Islamically approved garb or outward signs of piety.
Suggesting that woman who has not submitted or is improperly submitted is fair game? While not as clear as I would prefer to make this point, it surely could be read in that way. It would take no great leap of linguistic gymnastics to read it that way.


Here Allah tells His Messenger to command the believing women -- especially his wives and daughters, because of their position of honor -- to draw their Jilbabs over their bodies, so that they will be distinct in their appearance from the women of the Jahiliyyah and from slave women. The Jilbab is a Rida', worn over the Khimar. This was the view of Ibn Mas`ud, `Ubaydah, Qatadah, Al-Hasan Al-Basri, Sa`id bin Jubayr, Ibrahim An-Nakha`i, `Ata' Al-Khurasani and others. It is like the Izar used today. Al-Jawhari said: "The Jilbab is the outer wrapper. `Ali bin Abi Talhah reported that Ibn `Abbas said that Allah commanded the believing women, when they went out of their houses for some need, to cover their faces from above their heads with the Jilbab, leaving only one eye showing. Muhammad bin Sirin said, "I asked `Ubaydah As-Salmani about the Ayah:
﴿يُدْنِينَ عَلَيْهِنَّ مِن جَلَـبِيبِهِنَّ﴾(to draw their Jalabib over their bodies.) He covered his face and head, with just his left eye showing.''
﴿ذلِكَ أَدْنَى أَن يُعْرَفْنَ فَلاَ يُؤْذَيْنَ
(That will be better that they should be known so as not to be annoyed. ) means, if they do that, it will be known that they are free, and that they are not servants or whores.


 Servants and whores would have had no expectation of personal security in seventh century Arabia at that time.
http://www.qtafsir.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1817&Itemid=89


A senior Muslim cleric


Or a great misunderstander of Islam.


in Australia has sparked a furore by comparing women who do not wear a headscarf to "uncovered meat", implying that they invited sexual assault.


Non-Muslim, moderate Muslim, or kafir women as a catch-all phrase.


Sheik Taj Aldin al-Hilali delivered his comments in a religious address on adultery to around 500 worshippers in Sydney last month, but they only came to the attention of the wider public when they were published in the Australian paper today.
Sheik Hilali was quoted as saying: "If you take out uncovered meat and place it outside ... without cover, and the cats come to eat it ... whose fault is it , the cats' or the uncovered meat's? The uncovered meat is the problem. If she was in her room, in her home, in her hijab [the headdress worn by some Muslim women], no problem would have occurred."


http://www.theguardian.com/world/2006/oct/26/australia.marktran


(26)Chapter: Hajj of women (26) باب حَجِّ النِّسَاءِ
Narrated Ibn `Abbas:
The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "A woman should not travel except with a Dhu-Mahram (her husband or a man with whom that woman cannot marry at all according to the Islamic Jurisprudence), and no man may visit her except in the presence of a Dhu-Mahram." A man got up and said, "O Allah's Messenger (ﷺ)! I intend to go to such and such an army and my wife wants to perform Hajj." The Prophet (ﷺ) said (to him), "Go along with her (to Hajj).


 
https://sunnah.com/bukhari/28/42
 kpr37 with a pagan's logocentric perspective. http://www.yourdictionary.com/logocentrism
]]> Sun, 03 Sep 2017 12:34:01 -0400 http://thenewstalkers.com/kpr37/blog/1309/isis-enshrines-a-theology-of-rape-ny-times-and-what-the-times-left-out http://thenewstalkers.com/kpr37/blog/1309


QADIYA, Iraq — In the moments before he raped the 12-year-old girl, the Islamic State fighter took the time to explain that what he was about to do was not a sin. Because the preteen girl practiced a religion other than Islam, the Quran not only gave him the right to rape her — it condoned and encouraged it, he insisted.
He bound her hands and gagged her. Then he knelt beside the bed and prostrated himself in prayer before getting on top of her.
When it was over, he knelt to pray again, bookending the rape with acts of religious devotion.
“I kept telling him it hurts — please stop,” said the girl, whose body is so small an adult could circle her waist with two hands. “He told me that according to Islam he is allowed to rape an unbeliever. He said that by raping me, he is drawing closer to God,” she said in an interview alongside her family in a refugee camp here, to which she escaped after 11 months of captivity.
The systematic rape of women and girls from the Yazidi religious minority has become deeply enmeshed in the organization and the radical theology of the Islamic State in the year since the group announced it was reviving slavery as an institution. Interviews with 21 women and girls who recently escaped the Islamic State, as well as an examination of the group’s official communications, illuminate how the practice has been enshrined in the group’s core tenets.
The trade in Yazidi women and girls has created a persistent infrastructure, with a network of warehouses where the victims are held, viewing rooms where they are inspected and marketed, and a dedicated fleet of buses used to transport them.
A total of 5,270 Yazidis were abducted last year, and at least 3,144 are still being held, according to community leaders. To handle them, the Islamic State has developed a detailed bureaucracy of sex slavery, including sales contracts notarized by the ISIS-run Islamic courts. And the practice has become an established recruiting tool to lure men from deeply conservative Muslim societies, where casual sex is taboo and dating is forbidden.
A growing body of internal policy memos and theological discussions has established guidelines for slavery, including a lengthy how-to manual issued by the Islamic State Research and Fatwa Department just last month. Repeatedly, the ISIS leadership has emphasized a narrow and selective reading of the Quran and other religious rulings to not only justify violence, but also to elevate and celebrate each sexual assault as spiritually beneficial, even virtuous.
“Every time that he came to rape me, he would pray,” said F, a 15-year-old girl who was captured on the shoulder of Mount Sinjar one year ago and was sold to an Iraqi fighter in his 20s. Like some others interviewed by The New York Times, she wanted to be identified only by her first initial because of the shame associated with rape.
“He kept telling me this is ibadah ,” she said, using a term from Islamic scripture meaning worship.
“He said that raping me is his prayer to God. I said to him, ‘What you’re doing to me is wrong, and it will not bring you closer to God.’ And he said, ‘No, it’s allowed. It’s halal,’ ” said the teenager, who escaped in April with the help of smugglers after being enslaved for nearly nine months.
Calculated Conquest
The Islamic State’s formal introduction of systematic sexual slavery dates to Aug. 3, 2014, when its fighters invaded the villages on the southern flank of Mount Sinjar, a craggy massif of dun-colored rock in northern Iraq.


https://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/14/world/middleeast/isis-enshrines-a-theology-of-rape.html?_r=1
What this article fails to mention, and should, in fact, be deemed incumbent upon the author to include, Would be a full context to the disturbing words above. Where does the belief come from? Who taught him this? Is this a teaching of orthodox Sunni Islam?
I will attempt to deliver a detailed, sourced in context and complete examination of the reasons for the horrific misogynistic beliefs expressed in the linked article. Starting with Quran 4:24 Surah an-Nisa
The mainstream of Sunni Islamic jurisprudence has justified and supported that practice (sex with captive women= rape) on the basis of Islam’s canonical sources. (Quran, hadith, sunnah) Islamic "sex slavery" is religiously sanctioned halal (permitted) "lawful for you"  ‘guilt-free sex’.


 And all married women (are forbidden? unto you) save those (captives) whom your right hands possess. It is a decree of Allah for you. Lawful unto you are all beyond those mentioned, so that ye seek them with your wealth in honest wedlock, not debauchery.


http://quranexplorer.com/Quran/Default.aspx
This has a further explanation in the hadiths and establishes the "sunnah" or traditions of Mohammad. The Sunnah has certain theocratic meanings and associations as used in that context.  The encyclopedia Britannica lends a hand with the secular rundown.


Sunnah ,  ( Arabic: “habitual practice”) also spelled Sunna ,  the body of traditional social and legal custom and practice of the Islamic community. Along with the Qurʾān (the holy book of Islam) and Hadith (recorded sayings of the Prophet Muhammad ), it is a major source of Sharīʿah , or Islamic law.


See book of Marriage


The Book of Marriage (Kitab Al-Nikah) Muslim :: Book 8 : Hadith 3432
Abu Sa'id al-Khudri (Allah her pleased with him) reported that at the Battle of Hanain Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) sent an army to Autas and encountered the enemy and fought with them. Having overcome them and taken them captives , the Companions of Allah's Messenger (may peace te upon him) seemed to refrain from having intercourse with captive women
because of their husbands being polytheists. Then Allah, Most High, sent down regarding that:" And women already married, except those whom your right hands possess (iv. 24)" (i. e. they were lawful for them when their 'Idda period came to an end).


  http://www.quranexplorer.com/Hadith/English/Hadith/muslim/008.3432.html
This hadith confirms that 4:24 Surah an-Nisa was revealed in the context of sex with captured women.
See as well: The prophet himself distributing a sex slave.
Military Expeditions led by the Prophet (pbuh) (Al-Maghaazi)
Bukhari :: Book 5 :: Volume 59 :: Hadith 637
Narrated Buraida:


The Prophet sent 'Ali to Khalid to bring the Khumus (of the booty) and I hated Ali, and 'Ali had taken a bath (after a sexual act with a slave-girl from the Khumus). I said to Khalid, "Don't you see this (i.e. Ali)?" When we reached the Prophet I mentioned that to him. He said, "O Buraida! Do you hate Ali?" I said, "Yes." He said, "Do you hate him, for he deserves more than that from the Khumlus."


https://sunnah.com/bukhari/64/377
The recognized leader divvies up the "spoils of war". Distributing them at his whim. Surely allah will guide him to what is best?
Quranic verse 4:24 and related hadiths made Halal," those whom your right hands possess" legal in the eyes of Mohammad and by extension allah, to be used as an object of lust for the sexual satisfaction of the victorious jihadist, sex slaves to be precise.
That which allah has made halal, may not be made haram by mortal man. Heretics and apostates are those who forget the way of the Prophet (Sunnah) and are guilty of "bid'ah" or innovation. That will get you killed. bid'ah or innovation is discouraged.
page 622 in the pdf file, from the reliance of the traveller


@O9.13
When a child or a woman is taken captive, they become slaves by the fact of capture , and the woman's previous marriage is immediately annulled.


http://unconstrainedanalytics.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Reliance-of-the-Traveler-al-Misri.pdf
The Tafsir al-Jalalyn Quran 4:24 Surah an-Nisa. ( Quranic commentary)


And, forbidden to you are, wedded women, those with spouses, that you should marry them before they have left their spouses, be they Muslim free women or not; save what your right hands own, of captured [slave] girls, whom you may have sexual intercourse with, even if they should have spouses among the enemy camp, but only after they have been absolved of the possibility of pregnancy [after the completion of one menstrual cycle]; this is what God has prescribed for you (kitāba is in the accusative because it is the verbal noun). Lawful for you (read passive wa-uhilla, or active wa-ahalla)


http://www.altafsir.com/Tafasir.asp?tMadhNo=1&tTafsirNo=74&tSoraNo=4&tAyahNo=24&tDisplay=yes&UserProfile=0&LanguageId=2
From the Tafsir of Ibn Kathir. 4:24 Surah an-Nisa. ( Quranic commentary)


Forbidding Women Already Married, Except for Female Slaves
Allah said,
﴿وَالْمُحْصَنَـتُ مِنَ النِّسَآءِ إِلاَّ مَا مَلَكْتَ أَيْمَـنُكُمْ﴾
(Also (forbidden are) women already married, except those whom your right hands possess.) The Ayah means, you are prohibited from marrying women who are already married,
﴿إِلاَّ مَا مَلَكْتَ أَيْمَـنُكُمْ﴾
(except those whom your right hands possess) except those whom you acquire through war, for you are allowed such women after making sure they are not pregnant. Imam Ahmad recorded that Abu Sa`id Al-Khudri said, "We captured some women from the area of Awtas who were already married, and we disliked having sexual relations with them because they already had husbands. So, we asked the Prophet about this matter, and this Ayah was revealed, e
﴿وَالْمُحْصَنَـتُ مِنَ النِّسَآءِ إِلاَّ مَا مَلَكْتَ أَيْمَـنُكُمْ﴾
(Also (forbidden are) women already married, except those whom your right hands possess). Consequently, we had sexual relations with these women.'' This is the wording collected by At-Tirmidhi An-Nasa'i, Ibn Jarir and Muslim in his Sahih. Allah's statement,
﴿كِتَـبَ اللَّهِ عَلَيْكُمْ﴾
(Thus has Allah ordained for you) means, this prohibition was ordained for you by Allah. Therefore, adhere to Allah's Book, do not transgress His set limits, and adhere to His legislation and decrees.


http://www.qtafsir.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=684&Itemid=59
Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi the caliph of the Islamic state.


Born a Sunni in 1971 in Samarra with the name Awwad Ibrahim Ali al-Badri al-Samarrai, he  claims  to be a direct descendant of the prophet Muhammad. According to a  widely cited biography  released by jihadists, “he is a man from a religious family. His brothers and uncles include preachers and professors of Arabic language, rhetoric and logic.” The biography and  Arabic-language accounts  claim he obtained a doctorate at Islamic University in Baghdad — which is presumably why several of his many aliases include the title “Dr.” Holding degrees in Islamic studies and history, he is  believed  to have been an Islamic preacher around the time of the 2003 U.S. invasion of Iraq. 


http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2014/06/11/how-isis-leader-abu-bakr-al-baghdadi-became-the-worlds-most-powerful-jihadi-leader
The new caliph partakes of the benefits (concubinage/sex slavery) allah has granted those who "struggle"(jihad) in its way. He is raping captives.


An FBI affidavit against Umm Sayyaf described how Mueller was kept by the Sayyafs on behalf of ISIS leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, who raped her repeatedly, as ABC News previously reported. Umm Sayyaf was the “sole” person responsible for Mueller while in captivity, the Justice Department said.
“The captives were at various times handcuffed, held in locked rooms, and given orders on a daily basis with respect to their activities, movements and liberty,” the FBI affidavit said. “While in captivity, Kayla Jean Mueller was sexually abused by [al-]Baghdadi, who forced her to have sex with him.”


http://abcnews.go.com/International/wife-isis-figure-charged-american-woman-kayla-muellers/story?id=36796458


When they were torn from their families by Islamic State militants last summer, thousands of Yazidi girls and women were raped, tortured, forcibly married and enslaved. But after eight months in hell, some have struggled back to their surviving relatives in Iraqi Kurdistan: sick, broken, traumatized — and pregnant.
The youngest of these is 9, according to volunteers working in the refugee camps and abandoned buildings where they are sheltering. “This girl is so young she could die if she delivers a baby,” said Yousif Daoud, a Canadian-based aid worker who recently returned from the region. “Even a caesarian section is dangerous. The abuse she has suffered left her mentally and physically traumatized.”


http://www.thestar.com/news/world/2015/04/09/yazidi-girls-kidnapped-by-islamic-state-return-traumatized.html
It (sex slavery) was a common practice of the previous Caliphs.


We notice that women slavery in the Ottoman Harem started with Orhan Bey, but from the period of Sultan Mehmed the Conqueror the number of women slaves in the Harem increased rapidly. Starting from the middle of the Bayezid II's period, the tradition of the Sultans' marrying the neighbouring princelets' and Principalities' daughters ended . After that time, it became a new tradition for the Sultans to marry women slaves of the Harem. From that century, the Harem and the Sultanate based upon women slaves. They especially preferred to select Circassian, Georgian and Russian girls in the Harem . Since olden times, the Caucasian girls had been renowned with their beauties in the East. That is why, the Harem received too many Caucasian slaves in the beginning and that number rapidly increased especially in the 17th. Century. The girls taken over as prisoners of war in battlefields used to be taken in the Harem as women slaves earlier but in the decline and regression eras of the Ottomans they lost that source


http://www.exploreturkey.com/exptur.phtml?id=413
http://www.oceansbridge.com/oil-paintings/product/44197/theslavemarket1866


Inevitably this brings us back to the Yazidis, a religious minority whose members have been raped  and murdered by Isis and its sons forceably converted and turned into killers. Holland is angry that the Yazidis have been so overlooked. “The massacres and enslavement was going on while Israel was attacking Gaza. There was talk about ‘Israeli genocide’. Israel was not committing genocide. It was not engaging in a deliberate attempt to kill civilians. All the world’s press was in Gaza, writing this, while at the same time an authentic genocide was going on, and no one paid it any attention. What happened to the Yazidis was authentically Nazi.”
He says the genocide had deep historical roots. “Fatwas were pronounced in the Ottoman period that prescribed exactly what Isis are doing — that the men should be killed and the women enslaved. Just as Nazis justified genocide in terms of racial theory, there are Islamic scholars who justify it in terms of what the Koran says. Not to engage with that, to pretend that’s not an issue, is essentially to be complicit in genocide. After the Holocaust, Christians had to sit down and say ‘the way Christianity has portrayed the Jews as Christ killers fed into what happened’. There was an attempt to cleanse scriptures. There’s a need, by Muslims, to do the same with their scriptures. It’s been put to terrible uses.” 
The last time Holland made a documentary about Islam he received death threats. Is he frightened? “Ever since Rushdie, people have a sense that if you say anything negative about Islam, angry Muslims will protest. But there’s a further anxiety that if you insult Muslims, you’re a racist. There’s a conflation. Both of those anxieties have a chilling effect on questioning a fundamental issue: to what extent is there an ideological dimension to what is being done in Islam’s name? It seems there is a considerable ideological dimension.”


http://www.standard.co.uk/lifestyle/london-life/interview-historian-tom-holland-on-isis-receiving-death-threats-and-why-there-is-a-civil-war-in-the-a3541236.html
Prophetic, when you think about it.


In 1936 , when the French were poised to merge the newly formed Alawite coastal state into a larger Syrian republic, six Alawite notables sent a petition begging them to reconsider. “ The spirit of hatred and fanaticism embedded in the hearts of the Arab Muslims against everything that is non-Muslim has been perpetually nurtured by the Islamic religion ,” they wrote. “ There is no hope that the situation will ever change


http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/23/magazine/the-price-of-loyalty-in-syria.html ]]> Sat, 02 Sep 2017 09:33:52 -0400 http://thenewstalkers.com/kpr37/blog/1301/worshiping-at-the-altar-of-the-god-of-political-correctness-a-pagans-perspective http://thenewstalkers.com/kpr37/blog/1301
Reporting on the "leftist-septicemia-meme"
Now some may not like my title, that's just too bad. Really it is. Political correctness falls under the definition of a religion . (def # 2)


a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of persons


People worship it's politically correct concepts and ideas as an infallible system of belief. In much the same way as found in any other faith- based system of belief. They can be found ceaselessly in a loud authoritative voice vigorously proselytize to the non-believing. Using delusion and fantasy to get the point across. While attempting to put fear into the heart of the non-believer. Using terms familiar and recognizable to believers of other faiths. Those who refuse to recognize or worship at the feet of this new deity are referred to as the Neocon, the RWNJ, the politically incorrect, they are all outside the community of belief, they're people who don't believe as the "P C" crew do, so they are piously looked at and referred to as heretics   (def #3)


anyone who does not conform to an established attitude, doctrine, or principle.


As we all know, heretics need to be ostracized and made an example of before the community of belief. This action is demonstrating solidarity among the community. It reinforces group think, fostering a common cause while projecting hostility to those opposed to the communities ideological viewpoint.
For an Irish pagan you see, I've always known that any set of shared beliefs that are widely held and can not be readily supported by multiple independent sources are faith-based delusions. Religions, all of them, are faith-based delusions. That's why they are called faiths and not facts.
I recognize this faith-based delusion in myself. I have the imaginary friend (G*d) delusion. Recognizing that I have little to no supporting evidence. I am forced to take it on faith that I am correct. To insist time and time again, that I'm right, just because I think I'm right, would be more delusional than absolutely necessary. I am the only one who must believe my delusion. I don't care what you believe. The god of political correctness, unfortunately, rejects free will or matters of conscience in public discourse, and demands I believe as instructed.
It's a personal faith based decision I have made, in rejecting this false god of political correctness
Secularism is not based on faith, it is the word used to describe how we as a nation function. Separating what we take as faith, from cold hard, observable, supportable, reality. Many people have traditionally found an escape from reality through religions. The reality experienced was too harsh to accept, so they find comfort in retreating from reality into their warm embracing womb of faith.
Political correctness is only a different way (faith/god/delusion) to see the world through a distorted view of reality, confirming and reinforcing some comforting preconceived notions, in support of the larger overall delusion. There are as many and varied god delusions as there are humans inhabiting the earth, and there is no place at all for any god delusion in government. I will concentrate on only one of the god delusions here. It's a new god delusion, as compared with the more traditional ones. This delusion is usually held by people who have found the previous god delusion intellectually or spiritually lacking, and not suited to their way of thinking. It's this conclusion that leads many to be completely unable to distinguish between any religion and another religion. Since they have dismissed them all, they become indistinguishable from one another. It's a condition common to both Democrats and Republican, it's not restricted by party affiliation.
They have however found in the more recent ideas of man, a replacement theology for the older ideas of man. Said to be divine by the holders of the other, older, more traditional G*d delusions. Man always searches for answers and is quick to accept what is agreeable to his or her own cultural and ideological predisposition.
This relatively modern god concept ( or life perceptive, ideology) is a culturally produced manifestation of this very real human naturally occurring predisposition to search the mind in pursuit of absolutes, in life as well as philosophy. Man prefers the certain to the unknown and has rejected reality historically time and time again, feebly clinging to what he feels is certain, even after it's been conclusively proven false. This can best be ascribed to a cognitive egocentrism.  Which is in this particular case is (in the here and now) shown as a need to interpret ‘their’ way of thinking and behavior as essentially the same as "our" way of thinking. Taking the position that you must give the same ‘rational’ explanation for everyone’s behavior as you do to your own reasoning used to arrive at conclusions. We are all just people, after all, we all think alike.
No, people do not think alike. Ways of thinking (individual reasoning) are heavily influenced by culture, and that means it's limited to religion on some parts of the globe. All nations who use Arabic as a national language, not located on the Arabian peninsula have substituted religion for culture. It's been imposed at one time or another by conquest and is kept in place by applied violence. This systematic usage of applied violence continually expands the parts of the globe that are replacing culture with a strict religious dogma. It's insensitive and not politically correct to point out this resurgent effect of an unrestrained societal-religious Concupiscence display of "libido dominandi" announcing itself once more on the world's stage.
I will refer to his new (man-made) way of thinking (religion) here, as worshiping at the altar of the " god of political correctness" .
It ( the god of political correctness) is a harsh irrational deity, similar to the concept first presented over three thousand years ago and recounted in the old testament.(Since revised by Jews, and Christians alike) It took at least several hundred years for the ancient god concept to become workable, what happened from Abraham to Mosses is unclear. And yet, in the twenty-first century, incredibly, it still thrives and vastly outperforms all neighboring life encompassing systems of beliefs. The early Israelites rebelled themselves, preferring a golden calf to a new set of rules. Only ten of them at that , if I'm not mistaken. This new god, the "politically correct one" has thousands of rules, interlocking, supporting one another .  In ways, only a true believer can only hope to understand or begin to appreciate. To an outsider, it's all just gibberish and nonsensical dogma anyway. As all faith-based systems of belief are viewed by all outsiders or non-believers.
Ten rules, a people can grow accustomed to over time, say forty years or so of wandering. Thousands of rules, not so much in a single administration.


In fact, a growing number of regulations are being delayed at federal agencies or at the White House. The list includes a rule cracking down on junk food at school bake sales


Chocolate Fudge, frosted cupcakes, or brownies, are not now, and never should be a concern of the federal government.(dietary restrictions have historically been the realm of religions) This is a government that may legalize Marijuana while restricting Chocolate fudge, frosted cupcakes, and brownies. hello, is anybody out there!! Think about that man, what an irrational deity you "P C" dudes worship.


another banning children from dangerous work on farmily farms


I worked on a farm as a child,(my uncles) rarely was I paid,(work was paid for, chores were not) it was fun, not a job, and driving the tractor was a reward instead of money. Has no one seen a family farm? There is little on a farm not dangerous, big animals, heavy equipment and loads of distractions. I mean chopping wood is dangerous
Aren't these new rules from the same people who say religion is a man made construct. And has no place in a secular society. Aren't these new rules just a politically correct god construct? Based on, and substituting, the ideas of a pre-existing god concept with a bright shiny brand new one? Weren't the old rules no good because they were man-made, not Divine? Just who came up with these new rules again? I never followed Jewish religious law, I see no need to follow the politically correct god's law either.  I feel personally complete, following the well-known natural laws of G*d, gravity ," staying grounded" , not going faster than the speed of light and such with my physical body. I think this is all any god requires of me to be compliant with know divine laws. Note to progressives, please follow Jewish tradition, they don't eat pork, but they do not insist others don't as well. If your politically correct god, hates sugar, don't eat it! But I love sweet Iced tea with my Barbecued pig ribs, and restrictions on either is not likely to be negotiable
Dietary restrictions, ( kosher ) labor restrictions ( lamed tet avot melakhot ‎) environmental law (Bal Tashchit) not a competing religious system of belief at all. Oh no, I'm sure it's not. Not done to serve a higher purpose, Oh no, again, I'm sure it's not. It is just common sense and the way we all should live? (LOL) what's that word I'm looking for here?.... secularism
This new god construct (God of political-correctness) also demands a strict adherence to a set of orthodox, unsupported ideological beliefs, leading to an eventual "claimed" future salvation. (encompassing personal, national, and world salvation) Both concepts claim living your life according to their set of beliefs will improve the overall condition of mankind. One has an over three thousand year history of some notable success. The other one, the verdict is still out . But the experience is not looking well for the European politically correct experiment.
We all know the term "politically correct". We all know it's a relatively new term. We know that America was not a politically correct nation in the 1940s as we fought a world war. Yet in the here and now, we find political correctness intruding upon our daily lives more and more. Historically, the first usage of the term I could find was in a Supreme Court ruling. Sourced from Cornell law. In which an opinion was given in which a legal objection was raised to the wording of a common toast of the time, it actually made its way to the highest court in the land as part of a more complex case.
Chisholm v. Georgia , 1793


" 'The United States' instead of the 'People of the United States' is the toast given. This is not politically correct ."


This was I believe used in the literal meaning of the words. The words in the context of American politics were incorrectly used. It was a disputed decision, and lead to the passage of the 11th amendment to the Constitution . The phrase had no real bearing on the decision. A more common explanation for political correctness can be found here.
A look at the terms linguistic origins in a more in depth academic way can be found here


Nearly all the authors who have engaged in this diachronic research agree on the fact that the term was used sarcastically among leftists to criticize themselves for taking radical doctrines to absurd extremes . The most common use was ironic.
It was always used in a tone mocking the pities of our own insular political counter-culture, as in "we could stop at McDonalds's down the road if your're hungry ... but it wouldn't be politically correct."23
It seems clear from various accounts that {politically correct} was used as an in-group marker and understood by insiders as a joke at their own expense. It was used to criticize the group's own tendency towards humourlessness and orthodox party lines , poking fun at the notion that anyone could be wholly "correct".24
Wilson points out that many conservatives overlook the self-critical origins of the phrase. Dinesh D'Souza writes that
The term "political correctness" seems to have originated in the early part of this century, when it was employed by various species of Marxists to describe and enforce conformity to preferred ideological positions. ... The revolutionary ideologues of that period were serious people, and there is no indication that they spoke of political correctness with any trace of irony or self-depravation.


How the similarities in the individual god delusions strike a disconcerting chord, can be found in the words used to describe the delusion, clearly identifying it as a god delusion. It does for a pagan anyway. This new god concept has the exact same penalty for non-compliance. Burning in hell, it only arrives at the destination by a different route. (Global warming)   But it's Satan (temptation) in one system of belief and (oil, carbon) in the other, that leads both sets of devotees to the same sad end. Disappointing their separate concepts of G*d.
Global Warming Gomorrah In Hell: Welcome To Washington!


OK, so Washington (and a bunch of other East Coast cities) just saw its warmest month in modern history. That would be July 2011 , and my greener friends were very happy. “At least now maybe the politicians will listen,”


If you don't support my unsupported meme, we are all going to "Hell" (LOL) Where I have I heard that before. Even throws in an unrelated biblical reference. This was a few years ago, and hell is still fast approaching this year with record temps once more. Good golly Miss Molly,  she heard on good authority from chicken little that the sky is falling for sure. If you look too closely at the evidence, or what is happening behind your back, you may be turned into a pillar of salt.
Now the eerie similarities between the politically correct deity and the deity of the Islamic faith. They are as, two brothers who share a shameful bed. Questioning, or criticising the dogma of the Islamic faith will get a harsh response from a devotee of the politically correct deity. Leading to accusations of having a psychological condition, called a phobia. Islamophobia... Meaning, having a deeper and sourced understanding of the faith than they are comfortable debating.
Just as some religious people distort history to conform with their religious memes, such as a six thousand-year-old earth. The politically correct deity distorts history to suit its delusion. One of the modern high priests of this "P C" delusion was, and is still, even after death, Edward Said. Who's book of politically correct dogma, Orientalism, came out in 1978, a bible of sorts of the reinvented or revisionist history, anti-western crowd?
Feeding the unsuspecting world a meme that was a historically inaccurate narrative. Bordering on a form of anti-intellectual claptrap hidden in a repugnant moral recidivism (hubris) And viewed through a lens of history's perpetual "innocent" victim. (Arabs/ Islamism). The entire reason for the book was to attack any previous work by Western scholars who viewed and wrote about the culture and religion of the Orient. They critiqued it as they would their own culture and religion, meaning with a detached critical eye. This was viewed as racist because an outsider could never understand the certitudes, the majesty, and inherent truth of the  Arab experience.  Edward Lane was one of those focused upon in the intellectual attack of Mr. Said. He was a true giant of the study of the middle east and the culture and life of its populous. Mr. Said due to culturally imposed, personal limitations, could not understand the pursuit of knowledge, simply for the sake of acquiring said knowledge. Sinister motivations are attributed to Mr. Lane's study of Egypt. As Mr. Said is intellectually trapped, or confined in the zero sum imperative and assumptions, (honor/shame paradigm) still vibrant and intellectually a poignant reminder of the tribal based cultural and religious traditions of the Arabs.


Aristotle defined hubris as follows: to cause shame to the victim, not in order that anything may happen to you, nor because anything has happened to you, but merely for your own gratification . Hubris is not the requital of past injuries; this is revenge. As for the pleasure in hubris, its cause is this: men think that by ill-treating others they make their own superiority the greater. [3] Crucial to this definition are the ancient Greek concepts of honor (timē) and shame. The concept of timē included not only the exaltation of the one receiving honor, but also the shaming of the one overcome by the act of hubris. This concept of honor is akin to a zero-sum game
. Rush Rehm simplifies this definition to the contemporary concept of " insolence, contempt, and excessive violence ".


Walt Disney (pdf) and Aladdin is the new target and seen as the victimizer of Arabs and their culture in the updated take on the evil Orientalist.
Setting up the idea that if a culture is not revered (loved), it must be reviled (hated).
In the zero-sum game, there is only us and the other. Winner, loser.. a Victimizer and victimized. Man /woman, Muslim/ kafir.
Arbitrary designation of identity is a trait common among all god delusions. Usually, it's separation of the believer from the non-believer. But the politically correct god has many more ways to separate people, and it makes far less sense. To the god of political correctness, I'm Caucasian, even though I have a light tan skin tone and no connection with the Caucasus Mountains or any relation with the inhabitants of said mountains.
I'm, in (pc) reality, a North Atlantic Islander, with perhaps a touch of Afro Caribbean tossed in the mix, thanks to the British slave trade.
The idea of penance is adopted as well, from older more established faiths, as the political correct god is unoriginal, and plagiarizes, or borrows most all its own concepts from other faiths.
The racial discrimination carried out openly on University campuses penalizing Asian and European populations in America is in supplication to this god of political correctness. It is for the sins passed down for the acknowledged participation in the slavery of their ancestors. (original sin if you will) Even though there are few people on the earth who's ancestors did not hold a slave at one point in time. Asians had a minimal if existent involvement is the Atlantic slave trade anyways. The word slave  itself comes from the medieval Latin and it describes people from the German frontier, Slavic people "White" people. Slavery is as old as mankind and predates America by many millennia. But when penance is called for by a deity, the devotees willingly supplicate their better judgment in hope of absolution. Many American Professors are no more than high priests of the deity called political correctness. Others suffer the crude taunts of their peers, and academic advancement in the body politic of the university is found mysteriously hindered. Religious persecution to enforce an Orthodox dogma has never gone out of style in academia. Certainly not in Boston, the birth place of American religious intolerance. How do you think we got Rhode Island .
Religion, when you get down to it, is just an unsupported meme. All religion, therefore, is nothing more an unsupported meme competition. Politics is not much better, it is a barely supported meme competition. Under the three tons of bullshit covering up a politician's words, there could be a supportable idea buried at the bottom of that load of shit covering the meme. Not absolutely true, but possibly true.
This is where the fear sets in!! For a secular pagan anyway. I see you combining your politically correct god, with the governing of the nation. Your deity, which is a political "deity construct" to begin with, should stay out of government. I think it is a clear violation of the separation of church and state.
I hear the mantra of your politically correct god chanted across university campuses. Leftism may be the fastest growing religious dogma on the planet. (Western Hemisphere)
Let me introduce the holy trinity of the clearly perceptible and observable leftist god concept.
" All cultures are equal and valid and must be respected as such " The chant drones on.
I piss all over your politically correct god construct. I call it nothing more than a devoted idiot's slogan and a neo-modern substitute for medieval iconography and point out that believing does not make one saintly, nor does the number of believers make it a correct system of belief.
Especially if you are talking your nonsense to a Gay or lesbian atheist from Saudi Arabia.
" Moral relativism " is but another unsupported meme of the god of political correctness. As if morally unacceptable behavior, can be changed by a place, and the ethnic background or the religious persuasion of people committing the unacceptable acts.
'Rape-law' triggers fury in Jordan and similar articles can be found here


But Israa Tawalbeh, the country’s first woman coroner, sees “nothing wrong in Article 308 as such.”
“The problem is how some localand international human rights groups interpret the law,” she told AFP. “ Actual rape cases are rare in our society.


The unintended consequences of reporting a rape in Jordan, is in some cases, worse than the rape itself. Five more years of rape at the hands of your rapist, or being murdered by your own family.


Sometimes, girls under 18 lose their virginity to force their families to accept marriage to their boyfriends. The law categorizes this as rape.”
Tawalbeh said the law “solves problems for some.”


Yes, I'm sure the rapists love the law, it's the proverbial "wet dream" of degenerates , and lonely perverts the world over.


“Accepting marriage under Article 308 is better than leaving girls to be killed by their parents or relatives,” she said.


Cultural diversity, multiculturalism, all cultures and equal and valid, one no better than the other.
Who are we to judge?


“I think the law fits our society and reality. It protects the girls by forcing attackers to marry them.”


Why rape a woman only one time, when you can continue the rape for a minimum of five years.


In Jordan, between 15 and 20 women are murdered annually in the name of “honour” and at least six such killings have been reported so far this year, according to authorities.


Female genital mutilation is morally unacceptable, as is forcing a victim to marry the victimizer in the Islamic world as it is here in America because pretending it not real, is a transparent delusion.
At no time and in no place are things like this excusable
This is from an American source, but it's an Egyptian woman reporting


Horrific news reports about 12-year-old girls dying in childbirth  do little to stem the tide of child marriage there. Instead, demonstrations in support of child marriage outstrip those against it, fueled by clerical declarations that opponents of state-sanctioned pedophilia are apostates because the Prophet Mohammed, according to them, married his second wife, Aisha, when she was a child


page four.


What hope can there be for women in the new Egyptian parliament, dominated as it is by men stuck in the seventh century? A quarter of those parliamentary seats are now held by Salafis, who believe that mimicking the original ways of the Prophet Mohammed is an appropriate prescription for modern life


While no irrational meme, is better or more valid, than any other irrational unsupported meme. Some memes are worse than other memes. Political correctness denies that a distinction can be made.
Secularism!!!!......don't tread on it.
Ignorance or Jahiliyah
A third of the trinity is taken from Islamic sources.
It's the idea or meme that any thought or idea that came before the favored system of belief is pure unadulterated ignorance. But both god concepts ignore this, however. (Neither could exist without the system of beliefs that came first) In Islamic thought, it's called the age of "Jahiliyah" or pre-system of belief. The Islamic era replaced all thought and ideas other than Islamic ones. Pre-existing ideas and concepts were discounted, discredited, and viciously and un-relentlessly attacked. In the politically correct god delusion, it's the pre-progressive era, "religious" and neocon thought that is the designated enemy in need of discrediting, and attacked. It's easier than refuting facts, a trait common to both god concepts. The demonization of those who hold a differing system of belief is taken directly from the teachings of Mohammad. Today, we see the purposeful and wanton destruction of statues, representational art, monuments not conforming with their particular system of belief, as they can not co-exist with one another, existing as replacement ideologies.
Donald trump was elected, then demonized as a "fascist" a "nazi" and an agent of Russia, in protest of his ideas or memes that were found unacceptable to a group of people lacking the intellectual ability to challenge the validity of the ideas they oppose. Diversity does not demand the importation of this form of "debate". Any attack is Ok as long as it helps your meme gain superiority. Intimidation works as well as if not better than facts. If extreme violence is not immediately penalized and suppressed it is more than likely to fast become an accepted tactic. It is giving an unfair advantage to one system of belief in the battle of ideas and the validity of either.
This mashing together of various religious memes is not a bizarre new phenomenon. Since the first proto-human mutants emerged from the primordial ooze, of early human DNA. It (an early human) at one point, stood on two legs after eating, and scratched its ass, belched, looked at the night sky, or Sun, and wondered why? why am I?, what am I?
The first recognition of the possibility of a "something more concept" more than could be seen, or experienced in this realm, was the start of the god delusion. Mankind has only copied and expanded on that basic concept since. Some god concepts were successful and lasting. Others momentary and fleeting, in a historical time line. Some concepts should make a comeback to their historic levels (Zoroastrianism) and others are best kept to the dustbin of history ( the Plumed Serpent Quetzalcoatl and its cult of human sacrifice). Not all god delusions are equal and valid or compatible with a modern society. If the Aztecs made a comeback and started slipping across the Texas border, taking captives, cutting out their hearts, then skinning them so a priest could slip into the warm damp skin of the freshly dead. Would it be acceptable to complain? or would the concept of religious freedom come into play? Would that be bigoted to protest? It is, after all, a meme of the politically correct deity to respect and honor all systems of belief as equal and valid after all.
What does the religious freedom concept mean to a devotee of the Politically correct? where is the line drawn? Is that freedom to do anything that can be said to be religious in nature pass the test. If it's part of an old religious tradition, does that make it Ok? If it can be found in the codified text of a recognized system of belief is it ok.


Narrated Abdullah ibn Amr ibn al-'As:
The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said: Command your children to pray when they become seven years old, and beat them for it (prayer) when they become ten years old; and arrange their beds (to sleep) separatel


  https://sunnah.com/abudawud/2/105
I understand if you want to raise a vicious dog, you beat it. So it only stands to reason if you want to produce a future jihadist, struggling with all his might in the cause of 'allah', (and who doesn't think that's a swell idea) one might teach a child a similar life lesson. But when a child is treated in the same reprehensible manner as a fighting dog. I feel it's time for civil authorities to step in, and override a religious meme (imaginary) With the far superior secular humanist meme,(actual) that clearly says a child is worthy of better treatment than that what is commonly afforded or given a fighting animal, a dog. Civil authorities would be far more willing to protect the dog that is struck in furtherance of fighting. Well before the child is protected from violence in furtherance of a religious meme in an educational environment. A sad commentary on the memes of political correctness. If you were to ask me.


The court heard Patel used physical violence to discipline the boys aged between 10 and 16 between January 1, 2011 and October 19, 2011.
He used to strike the children around the back of the head and on the back with his fists during religious lessons at the mosque .


 (source)
Reading about the anal bomber , who underwent repeated acts of voluntary sodomy, on his at one time, unfortunately too tight jihadist ass. In the pious and religiously motivated hope of enlarging his anus's circumference, so as to fit a larger diameter bomb into his anal cavity. I was struck by the not so sophisticated insanities of those devoted to the politically correct deity. Like the habit of mindlessly repeating the term religious freedom. We need to better and further define the word religion. Because while I'm cool with the word freedom's definition. We do need to find a new way of thinking about and experiencing and expressing that simple concept religion. But the human mind wearies quickly before such a monumental task.
It's not going to be easy.
I looked up just what religious guiding principles might suggest a vigorous and repeated ass fucking by several friends as a way for one to draw nearer to their god, and no shit. I found it. At The Nigerian Da'wah Institute. https://www.scribd.com/document/344554456/what-is-islamic-culture-pdf
Da'wah is spreading the faith. While there are many ways to spread the faith, this one falls under the rules of jihad. Or the violently oppressive use of force as a persuasive tool to gain submission from an unwilling group of humans.
 


This the the well known principle of Usal al-fiqh in Arabic is called "Al-'asl fil ashya' al-ibahah"
The legal premise of everything is permissible .
See Yusuf Qaradadawi brief dicussion of this principle in the Lawful and the prohibited in Islam. London Al-birr foundation 2003 pp 3-7


everything is permissible if it is in furtherance of an Islamic objective (Jihad)


Boko Haram News- The Boko Haram sect who claimed responsibility of the recent attacks of five churches in the North, killing 100 worshippers including little children, have reveal their motive behind the attacks.
According to a letter by the sect spokesman, Abu Qaqa ” “Today Almighty Allah has given us victory against Christian Churches in Kaduna and Zaria which led to the deaths of many Christians and security operatives. For peace to reign in the land, all Christians must convert to Islam . Allah has tasked all Muslims in Quran chapter 9 verse 29 to continue to attack Jews and Christians who refused to believe in him and his messenger, Prophet Mohammed”.


Sourced by NG news
They seem to understand the verse in a literal way as if it were the direct immutable words of a Deity or something.


"Let them know that now it's the time for revenge God willing," the group said in a statement.
" From now on, they either follow the right religion or there will be no peace for them."


Submit, or face the continuation of the Jihad
sourced by CNN


The group has said it wants to impose Islamic sharia law across the oil-rich country split equally between Christians and Muslims.
"We are certain we will dismantle this government and establish Islamic government in Nigeria," Abu Qaqa said.
"There is no doubt in our minds we will emerge victorious.
"We are calling on all Muslims in this part of the world to accept the clarion call and fight for the restoration of the Caliphate."


Sourced by al-jazeera
The Sokoto Caliphate was one of the most destructive, and bloody Islamist movements in West African history.
Everything is permissible if it is in furtherance of an Islamic objective


“The pastors alongside one Ibo man were asked to change their faith to Islam like they did to other people taken as hostages . And there was an argument by one of the pastors which gave the others some level of confidence to also resist accepting Islam.
“The Yusufiya men who were armed on that Tuesday afternoon were not comfortable with the pastors and they took one of them to the sect leader in his inner chamber. They came out later to the courtyard within the compound and cut their heads one after the other and thereafter, shouted allah akbar in wild celebration accompanied with several gun shots,” the eye witness disclosed.
Corroborating the account of the killing, a Senior pastor with Good News Church, Wulari Maiduguri Rev. Baba Gata Ibrahim told Daily Sun in an interview that a pastor in his church, Pastor George Orjih was beheaded on the instruction of the Boko Haram leader because the clergy man refused to accept Islam.
The late Pastor George Orjih was said to have arrived Maiduguri last week from Jos where he was doing his Masters programme in Theology. Described as a fearless, hardworking, and intellectually sound, his care for the welfare and well being of his family allegedly contributed to his capture and eventual death. “He was mindful of his family and their welfare. He was really out of the house but thought to go back again. That was how he was captured by the Boko Haram before he was killed,’’ the senior pastor added.
“An eye witness who was also captured by the Islamic militants gave us details of how the pastor was killed. He told us they were persuading him to accept Islam and he said over his dead body. He was even said to have preached Christ to Mohammed Yusuf and that reportedly angered the sect leader who then as he ordered that the pastor and others be killed immediately,” he disclosed.


Christians have the G*d given right to turn the other cheek , and Nigerian Muslims have the 'allah' given right to slaughter them wherever they find them. It's in the Quran!
That's what multiculturalism is all about. (right ? )
One culture, no better than the other. Living side by side, each practicing their particular system of beliefs.
You're not one of those people (neocon/RWNJ) who thinks that there is a difference between living peaceably with your neighbor, and killing them are you?
What do you call those people?
Sensible?
Moral?
Humanists?
Certainly not politically correct.
Remember, it is these people, the politically correct who like to think that they have the high moral ground. Funny they are..hey?
]]> Thu, 31 Aug 2017 12:32:55 -0400 http://thenewstalkers.com/kpr37/blog/1287/from-a-cultural-tradition-devoted-to-deicide-an-open-lament-for-modernity http://thenewstalkers.com/kpr37/blog/1287

 


Early 17th century: from ecclesiastical Latin deicida ‘killer of a god’, or directly from Latin deus ‘god’ + -cide
https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/deicide
The definition says to kill a god. This would have been one of the thousands of various gods, goddess, and demigods.


 
I come from a long illustrious and distinguished philosophical tradition. One embedded with a deep abiding cultural ethic that has been habitually, and instinctively devoted to deicide for centuries. Classic Greek Cynics, intellectually and logically, killed off many of the gods, goddess, and various demigods back in the day.(middle third century-bc to the Council of Nicaea in 325 ad) Let's be clear, however, these ideas of a "god" having been killed is incorrect. Only the idea that they were some type of a  G*d.  Big  "G"..  G*d. has been altered.
 
They are now tourist attractions, art works, or even an icon on the sides of sneakers. See the goddess, Nike. As I type this, I have a winged Greek goddess on my feet. The goddess Nike is no longer said to be an active force in the universe, she has no influence on the society we live in. She is now a corporate symbol of athletic dominance and big bucks endorsements.
 


In Greek Mythology, Nike was the Goddess of speed, strength and victory. Also known as Winged Goddess, Nike is most often pictured as having wings


 
https://greekgodsandgoddesses.net/goddesses/nike/
 
As far as I remember, Nike was never attacked by the cynics, she was not offensive to their concepts or seen as a societal hindrance. She was harmless in their eyes. The first attacks were on communally disruptive deities or psychologically projected abnormalities, manifesting themselves in a divine form. Nike, for example, died out because of disinterest, not hostility. While hostility to another's beliefs is mostly uncalled for, dangerous beliefs, that harm individuals or societies should be logically challenged.  Me, I'm good without a pagan temple to the castrator being located down the street from me.
 
These acts of deicide, however, likely lead to the sudden fall of the cultural traditions and religious practices for all the citizens of the Roman empire by 400 ad. Setting off a catastrophic series of events. (Europe would not recover till the Enlightenment)  While the early Cynics were wholeheartedly, gleefully even, engaged in their intentional acts of deicide, they had neglected what came next. They had no answers for what came next. They had not really fully thought it out or considered it even as a possibility in over 500 years of thought. Not a single one could have predicted the coming of a monotheist religion arising and cornering the market, as it were, on the G*d concept.  Soon spanning the entire Europian continent as well as within the conscience of a far larger humanity. It was an event well beyond their scope of understanding. They knew of monotheism but did not view the concept of monotheism as man-made. The concept of the logos was as an observable feature of nature to the Greek Cynics. They did not attack it viciously, they only observed it, and debated what it could possibly mean. This concept did not rank high up on their outrage meter.
 
Monotheism or the pagan concept recognizing it was discovered by Heracleitus, it was the first concept of a single G*d in what was then a thourally pagan world. (The Jewish peoples were monotheists, as were the Zoroastrians at that time) This was centuries before the Septuagint (Greek translation of Jewish religious text) was introduced to pagan thought.
 


 The idea of the logos in Greek thought harks back at least to the 6th-century-bc philosopher Heracleitus , who discerned in the cosmic process a logos analogous to the reasoning power in man. Later, the Stoics , philosophers who followed the teachings of the thinker Zeno of Citium (4th–3rd century bc), defined the logos as an active rational and spiritual principle that permeated all reality. They called the logos providence, nature, god, and the soul of the universe , which is composed of many seminal logoi that are contained in the universal logos . Philo of Alexandria , a 1st-century-ad Jewish philosopher, taught that the logos was the intermediary between God and the cosmos, being both the agent of creation and the agent through which the human mind can apprehend and comprehend God. According to Philo and the Middle Platonists , philosophers who interpreted in religious terms the teachings of the 4th-century-bc Greek master philosopher Plato , the logos was both immanent in the world and at the same time the transcendent divine mind.


 
https://www.britannica.com/topic/logos
 
 
How did the path to pagan inner faith deicide begin? Well, it was Diogenes of Sinope (a slave most all of his life) Who had a most revolutionary idea. That all of the ideas shared with him were the ideas of Men. He searched and could not find any with a divine origin. Not in any of the ideas claimed as having a divine origin, could he, in fact, find one worthy of being called divine when strictly logically examined. It was only later in life (late 50s early 60s) that he broached the subject with others. For a slave, Diogenes was permitted great leeway due to his mastery of philosophy. He was called the dog once, while sitting at his master's table, by a guest. He asked if the guest really believed who he was addressing was a dog? The guest applied in the affirmative. Diogenes rose from his master's table and proceeded to urinate on the leg of the guest.  Saying if you call be a dog, I may, therefore, be tempted to act like one. This did not end his life strangely enough. Perhaps it encouraged him to test the limits of free speech for his time.
 
At some point, later in life at another party held by his master, Diogenes got up to speak. He lavishly praised the gods, and goddess as any good pagan was likely to do. Profoundly praised their mighty powers, pontificated greatly on the benefits that they bestowed were surely all sure signs of their presence all around us. So they should be honored and deeply revered. No one could question that. Applause met him all around, it went over well. Until that is, he raised a second point. Since they are so powerful he said, let them be introduced into what is now called the arena of ideas.( A Greek concept of philosophic debate.) And then let them stand on their own merits. Surely we shall learn something, perhaps a valuable lesson he added, with a sly look in his eye
 
Of course one can not start with the  "Dii Consentes", or pantheon the 12 main components 6 male gods,  6 female goddesses. You must build up to toppling the big dogs of theology. Don't punch down at the  lower levels divine hierarchy either, aim a little up the chain at a feared or disliked deity, like Cronus, son of Gaia. Cronus the castrator of Uranus. (Uranus was the father of Cronus) Not a lot of good physiological imagery or attributes associated with the castrator. If you are new at the deicide game, make sure you pick the right target. Zeus, for instance, might not be right target for your first time out of the gate, trying to knock off a god
 
Was I picking the first deity to try to "knock-off" in such an inglorious manner? It would surely be the castrator. Who will defend the castrator? As it would be more than probable that he would be asked to self-castrate, as a sign of his personal devotion to the castrating deity. (some really did)
 
What this meant was, for the very first time ever.  Concepts supporting the ideas of gods were now competing for acceptance in the arena of ideas. When those ideas or others, are introduced into the arena of ideas, they become fair game.  A philosopher can grab any idea by the "figurative" throat that he so desires and then violently shake it about, stamp it into the ground if he liked, viciously pummel it, again and again. Just to see if the idea has any substance.
 
Cronus was impolitely tossed into the arena of ideas, forced to fight fiercely for his own existence.  Cronus was found lacking in substance, appealing attributes, or redeeming communal values. His rights to be deified were questioned and then roundly rejected by his philosophical examiners. The mocking and Greek memes of humor directed at him diminished the appeal of Cronus in the larger community of believers. Soon the castrator was a "god" without devotees and soon forgotten left to perish on a theocratic dung heap.
 
I believe that Nietzsche was using a similar philosophy in his failed attempts at deicide toward the monotheism of Europe. Good ideas die hard. That is why he failed where other succeeded. Monotheism has been in the arena for over one thousand years. Here is where I believe Nietzsche failed and admitted it. The most effective attempts to kill an idea, or the claimed divinity of an idea, are most effective when launched from within. Nietzche and Hitchens, in my opinion, were the two most effective at questioning if a concept or idea can be divine or G*d. Neither could complete a deicide as planned. Nietzche admitted as much here. He admits humanity's morality is metaphysical and is not found in nature by him.
 
Taken from Friedrich Nietzsche's, the Gay Science chapter named, "in what way we, too, are pious"
 


"Will to Truth" that might be a concealed Will to Death.  Thus the question "Why is there science” leads back to the moral problem: What in general is the purpose of morality, if life, nature, and history are "non-moral"?  There is no doubt that the conscientious man in the daring and extreme sense in which he is presupposed by the belief in science, affirms thereby a world other than that of life, nature, and history; and in so far as he affirms this "other world" - what?  Must he not just thereby deny its counterpart, this world, our world?  But you will have gathered what I am driving at, namely, that it is always a metaphysical faith on which our faith in science rests - that even we seekers after knowledge today, we godless anti-metaphysians still take our fire from the flame lit by a faith a millennium old, the Christian faith, which was also the faith of Plato, that God is truth, that the truth is divine. 


 
http://www.lexido.com/EBOOK_TEXTS/THE_GAY_SCIENCE_FIFTH_BOOK_.aspx?S=344
 
Translated to pagan philosophy.
 


that even we seekers after "the logos" today, we "knowledge-less" anti-metaphysians still take our fire from the flame lit by a faith a millennium old, the " monotheistic" faith, which was also the faith of Plato, that "the Logos" is truth, that the " knowledge of the logos" is divine.


 
 
“Words, as is well known, are the great foes of reality. ”— Joseph Conrad
 
https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/aristotle-metaphysics/
 
So those who find their beliefs under attack (no matter what they are) fight for them. Don't let them die.  Deicide has happened 100,000s or 1,000,000 of times in human history. People are still trying. There is nothing wrong with that. It just makes belief stronger when we defend our concepts supporting our beliefs. Strong beliefs thrive, weak beliefs perish.  If you believe some concepts of god or gods are harmful or dangerous in your societies vigorously challenge them,  contest them openly, try to purge them or commit deicide upon them.  But know, that in this, the arena of ideas all contestants must be equal participants.
 
This icon or object of worship in philosophy (Diogenes of Sinope) was a truly "disgusting dude" and complete failure as a human being. But he made up for that with his gift of wisdom left behind. Human "prophets" are many times found to be deeply flawed, he, more so than most.
 
 Diogenes of Sinope taught that you should never take the words of Kings, Rulers, Emperors, Priests, Shaman, fortune tellers, auguries, wise men, politicians or prophets at face value.
 
They all have been known to have a greater propensity to tell a lie than the average man. Investigate everything they say before placing your belief in them and their words. Else you are likely to find yourself made a fool of, time and time again.
 
Truer words were never spoken!!
 
 
]]> Wed, 16 Aug 2017 20:34:21 -0400 http://thenewstalkers.com/kpr37/blog/1270/fetishizing-islam-how-we-can-rest-assured-that-islam-has-nothing-to-do-with-fgm http://thenewstalkers.com/kpr37/blog/1270


 
 
 Syedna Mufaddal Saifuddin is the head priest of the Dawoodi Bohra community, a branch of Islam with thousands of followers in the UK.He is accused of promoting the practice of female genital mutilation (FGM).


http://www.bbc.com/news/av/uk-england-birmingham-40831992/protests-at-birmingham-mosque-over-controversial-cleric
Another headline brings vivid images to the conscience of our minds of unfortunate occurrences, leading us to question what we believe, and exactly just what we are willing to defend in the West. Many people are vocal in their condemnation of Islamic practices. Some going so far as to question if they have a place in western society. We can not listen to those people they are just haters after all. What ever other people want to do is a ok, it's just fine, no really it is. We need to undertake a revolutionary aproach in our thinking and eforts to protect the religious liberities and beliefs of others at all costs. Just to show how tolerant we are to our friends and other like minded individuals. Prove to the haters that there is nothing that we will not tolerate.There is nothing we will not embrace!!


AUGUSTA — House lawmakers voted narrowly on Tuesday to create an education and outreach program aimed at stopping “female genital mutilation” in immigrant communities but stopped short of giving prosecutors additional tools against the practice.


http://www.pressherald.com/2017/06/13/maine-house-narrowly-rejects-creating-crime-of-female-genital-mutilation/
Here is a little self-help guide that I've thrown together. I call it Fetishizing Islam in your head.
Little effort is needed to Fetishize an Idea. Religion is an Idea. Islam is a religion. Away we go!!!
Meaning fetish


What does fetish mean?
fetish"material object regarded with awe as having mysterious powers or being the representative of a deity that may be worshipped through it," 1610s, fatisso, from Portuguese feitiço "charm, sorcery, allurement," noun use of an adjective meaning "artificial." The Portuguese adjective is from Latin facticius "made by art, artificial," from facere "to make, do, produce , etc."


http://dictionary.university/fetish
It often makes life so much easier when thinking of practices we do not accept. If we can only separate worldly actions from the source of the practices we might find objectionable. Then we can move on, unencumbered by unpleasant thoughts and uncomfortable realities. Were we to objectively examine the problem, we might recognize the "causal effect" of certain human behaviors compelling us to take some sort of action. Others may object to said action. Others still, may make wild accusations regarding our motivations and our intent.


What Is Causal Effect?
The term causal effect is used quite often in the field of research and statistics. There are two terms involved in this concept: 1) causal and 2) effect. When you look at both of these terms first individually and then together, the overall concept is easy to understand!
Let's look at the first word: causal . The root of this first word is cause . In order to produce something, there must be some type of cause to the situation, or there must be a reason why something is happening (referred to as the outcome ). Now, keep this in mind as you look at the second word.
The second word is ' effect .' 'Effect' is usually brought on by a cause. Therefore, causal effect means that something has happened, or is happening, based on something that has occurred or is occurring. A simple way to remember the meaning of causal effect is:
B happened because of A, and the outcome of B is strong or weak depending how much of or how well A worked .


http://study.com/academy/lesson/causal-effect-definition-lesson-quiz.html
To avoid these unpleasant outcomes, create your own personal Islam in your head, fetishize it. Think of the Muslims you know, and what pleasant wonderful human beings they really are. Then transfer your good feeling about them, to their faith. You can do it, if only you just try hard enough. Internalize colonialism, white privilege (even if you are not white), blather on about the terrible misogynistic nation you live in, condemn male circumcision, rail loudly against the lack of women football players in the NFL, scream ever louder that it is unfair that Hillary lost the election, complain that Rosie O'Donnell is not a sex symbol. You get the idea, persist.  There are just so many ways to avoid things you are unwilling to deal with.
When first reading about the objectionable practice, point out that it says it's a cultural practice. If that does not work, try well "it's a small Shia sect" that no one really belongs to, and they misunderstand their faith anyway.


Detroit emergency room physician Jumana Nagarwala, 44, was arrested April 12 and is currently in jail awaiting trial after a federal judge deemed her a flight risk and a threat to the community.The three defendants belong to a "religious and cultural community" that investigators allege practices female genital mutilation on young girls -- a painful surgical procedure to remove part of the clitoris or clitoral hood to suppress female sexuality. During a court hearing April 17, Nagarwala's defense attorney, Shannon Smith, told a judge the procedure did not involve cutting and was religious in nature, CNN affiliate WXYZ reported . Smith argued the procedure is practiced by the Dawoodi Bohra , an Islamic sect based in India, and that the clinic was used to keep procedures sterile, WXYZ reported.


http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/22/health/detroit-genital-mutilation-charges/index.html
Then go to a left-leaning site that you know supports women's rights, and see if they confirm your belief. They would never lie! It's not like they were fox news or something. The Huffington post cares about women. They really do! I'm sure they fact check as well!


Rep. Abdullah Hammoud (D), who is Muslim, was quick to respond to Hoitenga’s email, urging his fellow legislators “to NOT support” her bill.
“There is no Sharia law, ‘fundamentalist version’ or other, which encourages or permits female genital mutilation,” Hammoud wrote in an email. “ The doctor that was charged engaged in a cultural practice, NOT a religious practice ; again, she engaged in a practice that is illegal, and was therefore charged with committing a crime.” 
Sharia law, a favorite bogeyman of anti-Muslim extremists, is the deeply misunderstood  legal or philosophical code of Islam. It’s interpreted differently by Muslims across the world using an assortment of texts, including the Quran, the Sunnah and Hadiths.  


And further statements can be found ensuring the "correctness", politically, so to speak of your belief.


The practice “has not been confined to a particular culture or religion ,” according to the Female Genital Mutilation National Clinical Group , a United Kingdom-based charity working with women who have suffered FGM. “FGM has neither been mentioned in the Quran nor Sunnah.”


. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/sharia-michigan-female-genital-mutilation_us_58f90bc4e4b00fa7de127a83
When articles come out with facts you don't like. Blame the reporting. They most have got it wrong.


On paper, the law seems clear: Cutting any part of a young girl's genitalia is illegal — and no custom or ritual can be used to justify it. The law has been on the books for 21 years, unchallenged. But in a federal courtroom in Detroit, a landmark case involving the centuries-old taboo ritual is about to put that law to the test for the first time.And perhaps more historic, a question will be raised in the American legal system that has never been raised before: Does the U.S. Constitution allow for genital cutting , even if it's just a minor nick or scraping, in the name of religion?


http://www.freep.com/story/news/2017/05/21/female-genital-mutilation-religious-freedom/319911001/
Hateful people, who do not care about women, or their rights. They may try to show you something to suggest women are being abused, as a way to control their sexual impulses. Don't believe them! You know Islam, your personal Islam, they most likely don't or they would not be doing what they are.


I think female genital mutilation is the accepted term, and it's the term WHO uses. Mutilation shows the gravity of the practice . You're damaging healthy tissue and altering it in ways that may be permanent, for no medical reason.
But some people, when working within communities, use the word cutting instead of mutilation. In some places, the word mutilation comes across as meaning the women who have had the procedure are damaged. Those women can be offended. Sometimes a term used at the policy level may be appropriate, but at the community level it might be better in some instances to use the term cutting. Are there any health benefits?There are no health benefits, only health risks. It's a way of controlling female sexuality


http://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2017/05/06/526766230/female-genital-mutilation-what-it-does-to-a-woman
These people are just so hateful, they may show you second sources, confirming the first. Don't listen, no good can come from it. NPR is a notorious right wing hate site, that's all you need to know. One hate site is the same as an another. "Resist".


Federal prosecutors consider circumcision of girls a form of sexual assault , based on statement made in court this week.


http://www.mlive.com/news/detroit/index.ssf/2017/05/prosecutor_says_defendants_in.html
Remember, only people like you care about women. Islamophobes, unlike you, are horrible, horrible, people who only want to hurt others. Some people just hate Muslims and brown-skinned humans, in general. (never consider that most of the women mutilated are not white... just strike it from your mind, no good can come of it ) In your Islam, Mohammad was a man of "color", strike from memory that Mohammad was white
You are only are protecting against negative stereotypes of a religion. And false impressions of other people's faith. You should stand proud mighty warrior of the oppressed. Righteous you are in your beliefs. All religion is the same when you get down to it.
At this point, some raving lunatic may try to explain to you what Islam really teaches. Just remember, Only you know your own personal fetishized personal Islam, they do not. Islam is an idea in your head, and no one can challenge it, NO ONE! Islam is a beautiful religion of peace and tolerance. Mohammad was the first feminist!
As the great defender of women's rights Chuck D has said "don't believe the hype" And if there is anyone defending women's rights, it is Rappers. They are well known for their strong support for feminism and total lack of misogyny.
There are falsehoods and lies everywhere. There may even be spurious reports targeting innocent Muslim doctors, peddling false charges. Just don't believe that. Don't ask questions. It's rude, know your place.


Hatem Elhagaly (AKA "Hatem Al Haj") worked as a doctor in Pediatrics & Adolescent Medicine at the Mayo Clinic in Albert Lea, MN. His special interests are in child development.
He is also a proponent of Female Genital Mutilation (FGM).
In an Arabic-language paper entitled " Circumcision of Girls: Jurisprudence and Medicine " (original  here  and  here ),


"His reasoning is that it is a religious practice. if you research his claims in the hadiths found online, you will see that he is not incorrect."
Never listen to other people. They don't know the Islam you have fetishized in your head. There is no way they can. It's your Islam and no one can take it away.


Elhagaly (AKA "Al Haj") repeatedly points to the idea that FGM is "an honor" for women, ignoring FGM's extremely detrimental effects on women's health and the barbarity of the practice. He attempts to justify his ideas by referencing scholars from several schools of Islamic thought and also the words of Muhammad, including the idea that FGM is desirable "because it is more beautiful to behold and better for her husband." 
Hatem Elhagaly was taking care of young girls in Albert Lea, MN. 
Learn more about him at his  website .
Hatem Elhagaly is already gone from his job at the Mayo Clinic. I now demand that the various medical boards that support him revoke his certifications.
Join with me in voicing your outrage. Together, we can insist that his board certifications in this country be revoked. 
Remember: It doesn't matter how "little" you cut a little girl's vulva. It's still felony child abuse.


https://www.change.org/p/revoke-the-certifications-of-hatem-elhagaly
Islamophobes may try telling you about a book of religious laws, called the reliance of the traveller. Know in your heart, that more than likely it's a Zionist conspiracy to discredit a great faith. Zionists have been trying to exterminate Muslim for decades now! No, it's true!


This work is the first translation of a standard Islamic legal reference in a European language to be certified by Al-Azhar, the Muslim world’s oldest institution of higher learning. It presents an explanative interpretation of ‘Umdat al-salik, a classic Sunni manual of Sacred Law by Ahmad ibn Naqib al-Misri


  https://www.albalaghbooks.com/fiqh/classic/reliance-of-the-traveller-a-classic-manual-of-islamic-sacred-law/
Just when you've gotten to your happy place, they return. Tune them out. Nothing they say about your fetishized Islam will change your mind. If they cared about women, they would be protecting a Muslim woman's "faith" from theses spurious charges, repeat louder, SPURIOUS, SPURIOUS charges. There is nothing to see you Islamophobes be gone with you!!!!!!!!!


local mosque was paying a physician to perform female genital mutilation on young girls , an attorney serving as a guardian for the doctor's children alleged in court Tuesday. 
The disclosure occurred during a hearing in which the state is seeking to terminate the parental rights of Dr. Jumana Nagarwala, 44, of Northville, the lead defendant in Detroit's historic genital cutting case.


http://www.wzzm13.com/news/local/michigan/attorney-mosque-paid-doctor-to-perform-genital-cuttings-on-girls/448777631
Oh my, a mosque is involved. How to keep that fetishized Islam intact. Oh, oh, what now to do. Joining Gays, Lesbians, Transgenders, Queers, and politically correct activists for Palestine in Gaza?(Hamasistan)That is aways an option, I guess.
At this point meditation, Yoga, even hot Yoga, may not enough for you. So try Alcohol, Opiates, or some mind altering substances. Protect your fetishized Islam! It's the most important thing in the world. Whatever you need to do to persevere it is well justified.
Some light reading for the plane ride to the Middle East and the glorious beaches of Gaza.
http://www.deoband.net/blogs/shafii-school-of-fiqh  
Page 25. Shafi'i jurisprudence or fiqh is what is found in the reliance of the traveller, the most widely followed or distributed book of Islamic law.


e4.3 Circumcision is obligatory (O: for both men and women. For men it consists of removing the prepuce from the penis, and for women, removing the prepuce (Ar. bazr) of the clitoris (n: not the clitoris itself, as some mistakenly assert). (A: Hanbalis hold that circumcision of women is not obligatory but sunna, while Hanafis consider it a mere courtesy to the husband.)   


http://atheistmuslim.altervista.org/sharia.pdf  
It has been said that in the Arabic edition there is no qualifier, it says removal of the Bazr. I can not prove that. So I do not make that claim. I claim as true, things I can verify, and produce when asked.
  Arabic word Bazr   http://en.bab.la/dictionary/english-arabic/clitoris


Circumcision is not an inherited custom as some people claim, rather it is prescribed in Islam and the scholars are unanimously agreed that it is prescribed. Not a single Muslim scholar – as far as we know – has said that circumcision is not prescribed.


http://www.islam-qa.com/en/ref/60314/female%20circumcision
 Primary source material.
Chapter: Abrogation of “water is for water”, and that it is obligatory to perform ghusl when the two circumcised parts mee t (22) باب نَسْخِ ‏"‏ الْمَاءُ مِنَ الْمَاءِ ‏"‏ ‏وَوُجُوبِ الْغُسْلِ بِالْتِقَاءِ الْخِتَانَيْنِ ‏


Abu Musa reported:
There cropped up a difference of opinion between a group of Muhajirs (Emigrants and a group of Ansar (Helpers) (and the point of dispute was) that the Ansar said: The bath (because of sexual intercourse) becomes obligatory only-when the semen spurts out or ejaculates. But the Muhajirs said: When a man has sexual intercourse (with the woman), a bath becomes obligatory (no matter whether or not there is seminal emission or ejaculation). Abu Musa said: Well, I satisfy you on this (issue). He (Abu Musa, the narrator) said: I got up (and went) to 'A'isha and sought her permission and it was granted, and I said to her: 0 Mother, or Mother of the Faithful, I want to ask you about a matter on which I feel shy. She said: Don't feel shy of asking me about a thing which you can ask your mother, who gave you birth, for I am too your mother. Upon this I said: What makes a bath obligatory for a person? She replied: You have come across one well informed! The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said: When anyone sits amidst four parts (of the woman) and the circumcised parts touch each other a bath becomes obligatory.


https://sunnah.com/muslim/3/107


General Behavior (Kitab Al-Adab)
Dawud :: Book 41 :Hadith 5251
Narrated Umm Atiyyah al-Ansariyyah: A woman used to perform circumcision in Medina. The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said to her: Do not cut severely as that is better for a woman and more desirable for a husband.


http://quranexplorer.com/hadithebook/English/Hadith/dawud/041.5251.html


More than 200 million girls and women alive today have undergone some form of female genital mutilation (FGM), also called female circumcision — with another 15 million young girls expected to undergo the process in the next decade, according to UNICEF.


http://www.egyptindependent.com/cut-secret-medicalization-fgm-egypt


PREVALENCE OF GENITAL MUTILATION
       In this study, a majority of women reported being subjected, at least once, to genital mutilations. Almost 8 out of 10 (81.6%) Egyptian women reported being subjected to genital mutilations. This incidence is in agreement with findings from other investigations that have been made over the past 12 years. The average incidence of FSC in these studies is 80.5% (See Table 1). Although these surveys are not without methodological problems, they are all reasonably consistent in their report of the prevalence of female genital mutilations.


http://www.nocirc.org/symposia/first/badawi.html
  warning warning warning ...I would be very careful opening that. you do not want to look!!!!


3 Photographs That Tell The Whole Truth About Female Genital Mutilation (NSFW)


http://www.refinery29.com/2017/03/143946/female-genital-mutilation-recovery-information


How is it that two people who claim to be leftists – a term I would also apply to myself – are defending a man who advocates one of the most violently patriarchal acts imaginable, FGM, by downplaying the regressiveness of his views? And how can they possibly reconcile this with their claimed leftwing values?
The answer lies in their misunderstanding of multiculturalism. Newman argues that Qaradawi's support for FGM is not really that bad because "a truly multicultural society cannot regard the current state of social attitudes we have in Britain as self-evidently normative, and that anyone who disagrees is a bigot". Put in less abstruse terms, he is saying the right of young girls not to be mutilated is culturally specific rather than universal and that, as FGM is part of some, mainly African, cultures, we should just accept it. Similarly, we should not hold Qaradawi's support for it against him.
Who are we, Newman is effectively asking, to judge that FGM is so wrong?


https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/belief/2010/oct/15/female-genital-mutilation-yusuf-al-qaradawi
I mean what is more important, your personal fetishized Islam, or a couple hundred million women you will never meet?
See also.Procedures for photo.
Female genital mutilation is classified into 4 major types.

Type 1: Often referred to as clitoridectomy , this is the partial or total removal of the clitoris (a small, sensitive and erectile part of the female genitals), and in very rare cases, only the prepuce (the fold of skin surrounding the clitoris).

Type 2: Often referred to as excision , this is the partial or total removal of the clitoris and the labia minora (the inner folds of the vulva), with or without excision of the labia majora (the outer folds of skin of the vulva ).

Type 3: Often referred to as infibulation , this is the narrowing of the vaginal opening through the creation of a covering seal. The seal is formed by cutting and repositioning the labia minora, or labia majora, sometimes through stitching, with or without removal of the clitoris (clitoridectomy).

Type 4: This includes all other harmful procedures to the female genitalia for non-medical purposes, e.g. pricking, piercing, incising, scraping and cauterizing the genital area.

Deinfibulation refers to the practice of cutting open the sealed vaginal opening in a woman who has been infibulated, which is often necessary for improving health and well-being as well as to allow intercourse or to facilitate childbirth.
No health benefits, only harm
FGM has no health benefits, and it harms girls and women in many ways. It involves removing and damaging healthy and normal female genital tissue, and interferes with the natural functions of girls' and women's bodies. Generally speaking, risks increase with increasing severity of the procedure.
http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs241/en/


DISCUSSION 
Our best estimate is that, in 2012, about 513,000 women and girls in the United States were at risk for FGM/C or its consequences. When examining absolute numbers of women and girls at risk, rather than percentage change


  https://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/USCIS/Humanitarian/Special%20Situations/fgmutilation.pdf
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2017/04/genital-cutting-indian-doctor-women-khatna/
http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2016/02/06/fgm-indonesia-hits-alarming-level.html
 
http://somaliaone.net/2016/07/29/somalia-consultations-in-mogadishu-to-ban-fgm/
https://www.memri.org/reports/debate-over-female-circumcision-egy
]]> Mon, 07 Aug 2017 04:58:43 -0400 http://thenewstalkers.com/kpr37/blog/1267/the-k-word-kafirits-a-real-killer http://thenewstalkers.com/kpr37/blog/1267



Kaffir (n.) 1790, "infidel, " earlier and also caffre (1670s), from Arabic kafir "unbeliever, infidel, impious wretch," with a literal sense of "one who does not admit (the blessings of God)," from kafara "to cover up, conceal, deny, blot out."


http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=Kaffir&allowed_in_frame=0
The "K" word (Kafir) Signifies in a theocratic sense, one who does not believe in Allah. Resulting in a purposely derogatory designation of being unclean, or najis in Arabic. It's only by understanding the meaning both religiously and culturally, that can we understand the answers given in the on-street interviews in the accompanying video. Most people have neither the time nor the compulsion to dig deeper so as to discover the reasons these people all seem to believe that those who do not believe as they do, are certainly and without any hesitation at all deserving of death.
This is from Tarek Fatah
 


 (born 20 November 1949) is a Pakistan born Canadian writer, [2] broadcaster, secularist and liberal activist. [3]
Fatah is a founder of the Muslim Canadian Congress and served as its communications officer and spokesperson


Mr. Fatah mentions an objection he has regarding commentary he hears often spoken at his local mosque, in Canada.
 
 


One of the reasons I avoid attending Friday congregations at mosques is a specific ritual supplication uttered by Imams at many mosques in Canada and around the world, just prior to our formal Friday community prayer, the Juma’a.
In the supplication, the cleric prays to Allah for, among other things, to grant “Muslims victory over the ‘Qawm al-Kafiroon,’” the Arabic phrase that lumps all non-Muslims — Jews, Hindus, Christians, Atheists, Buddhists and Sikhs — into one derogatory category, the “Kuffar”, or non-Muslims.


http://www.torontosun.com/2015/01/13/muslims-shouldnt-pray-to-defeat-non-muslims
Step one, understand the nature and meaning of the word used, as well as its intent. The word is -"Kafir"- it comes from Surah 109 Al- kafir oon ( the nonbeliever) Full context, as well and time and place of revelation are explained in the link below.
http://www.englishtafsir.com/Quran/109/index.html
The Kafir is in point of fact, among things that are taught to be unclean (najis) for theocratic Muslims. As referenced by Quran 9;28
Quranic commentary on verse 9:28 http://www.qtafsir.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2568&Itemid=64
The unbeliever or Kafir is only one step above (or below, depending on point of view) a pig, but is less unclean than urine. This is the reason that is given that non-believers can not enter the "holy" city of Mekka, Saudi Arabia. Explained in the Tafsir linked above.
Direct from the Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani's web-site. He is a "moderate", he is also America's partner in a lasting peace in Iraq. The N.Y. Times thinks he is deserving of the Noble peace prize.
 


84. The following ten things are essentially najis: Urine Faeces Semen Dead body Blood Dog Pig Kafir Alcoholic liquors The sweat of an animal who persistently eats najasat.


http://www.sistani.org/english/book/48/2126/
 


 Najis things » Kafir 107. An infidel i.e. a person who does not believe in Allah and His Oneness, is najis . Similarly, Ghulat who believe in any of the holy twelve Imams as God, or that they are incarnations of God, and Khawarij and Nawasib who express enmity towards th e holy Imams, are also najis. And similar is the case of those who deny Prophethood, or any of the necessary laws of Islam, like, namaz and fasting, which are believed by the Muslims as a part of Islam, and which they also know as such. As regards the people of the Book (i.e. the Jews and the Christians) who do not accept the Prophethood of Prophet Muhammad bin Abdullah (Peace be upon him and his progeny), they are commonly considered najis, but it is not improbable that they are Pak. Ho wever, it is better to avoid them.
108. The entire body of a Kafir, including his hair and nails, and all liquid substances of his body, are najis.
109. If the parents, paternal grandmother and paternal grandfather of a minor child are all kafir, that child is najis, except when he is intelligent enough, and professes Islam. When, even one person from his parents or grandparents is a Muslim, the child is Pak (The details will be explained in rule 217).
110. A person about whom it is not known whether he is a Muslim or not, and if no signs exist to establish him as a Muslim, he will be considered Pak. But he will not have the privileges of a Muslim, like, he cannot marry a Muslim woman, nor can he be buried in a Muslim cemetery.


http://www.sistani.org/english/book/48/2132/
 
It's not confined to the middle east either, this wonderful western educated fellow is teaching or preaching this vile hateful ideology in Canada, Toronto to be precise
 


Sayyid Muhammad Rizvi was born in the Saran district of Bihar , India . [1] He migrated with his family to Tanzania , where he underwent elementary schooling. [1] In 1972 he went to Qom for religious studies where he pursued his Ijtihad under Ayatullah al-Uzma Shaikh Wahid Khurãsãni. . After successfully attaining the rank of mujtahid, he returned to India in 1982. [1] In 1983 he migrated with his family to Vancouver , and by 1991 he completed his Master of Arts degree in History (with no prior undergraduate degree ), at Simon Fraser University . [1] He then moved to Ontario in the same year, and since 1996 [1] he has been the Imam of the Islamic Shia Ithna Asheri Jamaat of Toronto .


 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_Rizvi
 
This is Mr. Rizvi's site.
 
8. THE KAFIRS (a'yan najisah - Unclean)
 


What is the meaning of "kafir?" Kafir (pl. kuffar) means an infidel, an unbeliever as opposed to a Muslim , a believer. "Muslim" is defined as a person who believes in Oneness of God, prophet hood of prophet Muhammad, and the Day of Judgment. A person who rejects any of these three principles is a kafir.From Muslims' perspectives the kuffar are divided into two main groups : kafir dhimmi and kafir harbi.
"kafir dhimmi" is a kafir who lives under the protection of an Islamic government.


 
He can not be killed (without religious permission) his wife may not be raped.(with out religious permission)
 


"Kafir harbi" is a kafir who does not have such a protection.


 
He is fair game.. he may be abused or killed (if it advances Islam)
 
If while in the advance of Islam (jihad fi sabilliah) you feel the need to rape someone's (kafir's) wife or daughter, you may, it's halal. allah is down with that.
 
 
http://www.islam-laws.com/taharatandnajasat.htm
 
 


KUALA LUMPUR, June 30 ― Pahang Mufti Datuk Seri Abdul Rahman Osman has defended his “kafir harbi” label against opponents of Islam, saying his previous remark was not meant to be a sanction for the slaughter of non-Muslims.
The senior Islamic cleric also said those who lodged police reports against him had the right to do so, but insisted he has never condoned killing those labelled “kafir harbi” , The Star reported today.
“ They have the right to do that. But I never intended to call on the Muslims to slay the non-Muslims as I was just making a general statement,” he was quoted saying.
“As Muslims, we have the responsibility to declare jihad against kafir harbi. But in this context, jihad does not necessarily mean picking up weapons and going to war,” he was quoted saying further.


 
http://www.msn.com/en-my/news/national/%E2%80%98kafir-harbi%E2%80%99-remark-wasn%E2%80%99t-licence-to-kill-non-muslims-pahang-mufti-now-says/ar-AAhNMWO
 
On Friday, Abdul Rahman was quoted in Utusan Malaysia as labelling the DAP “kafir harbi” over its opposition to hudud laws, adding as well that it would be a “great sin” for Muslims to support the party.
It is believed that those categorised as “kafir harbi” can be killed for being against the implementation of Islamic principles and going against God.
 
 
- See more at: http://www.themalaymailonline.com/malaysia/article/after-backlash-pahang-mufti-says-any-who-oppose-islam-is-kafir-harbi#sthash.XZZ9GUjv.dpuf
 
In Islamic theology, the non-believer (kafir) is less than human, as I have demonstrated here with this article.
 


Australia's first female Muslim MP says terrorists see non-believers as cockroaches and admits there is a link between terrorism and Islam.
Labor's Anne Aly, who was a counter-terrorism expert before being elected to federal parliament last year, said religiously-motivated murderers saw non-believers as sub-human.
'So if you see a cockroach and squish it, you don't squish the cockroach because you're angry at it,' she told Sky News on Thursday night.
You don't squish the cockroach because you have an issue with it.
'You squish the cockroach because you're disgusted by it.'
In a break with many left-wing politicians, who deny the link between Islam and terrorism, the Egyptian-born politician said the Koran was often used to justify violence.
  Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4541464/Muslim-MP-says-terrorists-non-believers-cockroaches.html#ixzz4iBs3KTlt


 
How do things like the Manchester bombing keep happening one may ask?
 
I will try to explain with some background and standard, mainstream Sunni teachings.
 
Manchester mosque condemns terrorist attack but hosts antisemitic, anti-kuffar and homophobic scholars
 


It’s great that they condemn terrorism. Their choice of speakers to host isn’t so great.
I didn’t recognise all of the names who have spoken at Manchester Islamic Centre, but three of them I did –  Abdullah Hakim Quick ,  Muhammad ibn Adam al-Kawthari and  Abu Eesa Niamatullah .
Here’s Abdullah Hakim Quick speaking at the mosque and complaining that Muslims are taking on the lifestyles of Jews and Christians:


 
In his own words, he is concerned about the believers "Muslims", taking on the habits of the "Kafiroun".
 
Quran 8:55 states that the nonbeliever is the worst or "vilest" of animals
 
http://www.islamawakened.com/quran/8/55/default.htm
 
 The prophet did not believe the life of a believer (Muslim) was worth the same as the life of a non-believer (Kafir)
 


Blood Money (Ad-Diyat)
Bukhari :: Book 9 :: Volume 83 :: Hadith 50
Narrated Abu Juhaifa:
I asked 'Ali "Do you have anything Divine literature besides what is in the Qur'an?" Or, as Uyaina once said, "Apart from what the people have?" 'Ali said, "By Him Who made the grain split (germinate) and created the soul, we have nothing except what is in the Quran and the ability (gift) of understanding Allah's Book which He may endow a man, with and what is written in this sheet of paper." I asked, "What is on this paper?" He replied, "The legal regulations of Diya (Blood-money) and the (ransom for) releasing of the captives, and the judgment that no Muslim should be killed in Qisas (equality in punishment) for killing a Kafir (disbeliever). "


 
http://www.quranexplorer.com/hadithebook/english/Hadith/bukhari/009.083.050.html
 
 
 
This beliefs effect on real humans can be found in the sad case of a Mrs. Asia Bibi
 
 


Mrs Bibi - a farm worker from rural Punjab -  has released a memoir called 'Blasphemy'.
She describes how she has no idea how long she has left to live. Talking about how she ended up in her position, she says: 'I drank water from a well belonging to Muslim women, using “their” cup, in the burning heat of the midday sun.
'I, Asia Bibi, have been sentenced to death because I was thirsty. I’m a prisoner because I used the same cup as those Muslim women, because water served by a Christian woman was regarded as unclean by my stupid fellow fruit-pickers.'


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2403773/Christian-woman-Asia-Bibi-jailed-Pakistan-using-Muslim-womens-cup-drink-water.html#ixzz4fSXXFEb4
Mrs. Bibi finds herself in this tragic situation because she has rejected one of the three choices Islam offers Christians.
 
 


“For the first time in the history of Iraq, Mosul is now empty of Christians,” Patriarch Louis Sako lamented as hundreds of families fled ahead of a noon deadline set by Islamic State for them to submit or leave.
The warning was read out in Mosul’s mosques on Friday afternoon, and broadcast throughout the city on loudspeakers.
“We offer [Christians] three choices: Islam; the dhimma contract - involving payment... if they refuse this they will have nothing but the sword,” the announcement read.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iraq/10977698/Christians-flee-Iraqs-Mosul-after-Islamists-tell-them-convert-pay-or-die.html
This, the three choices meme is not a misunderstanding of Islam, it is directly from one the six authentic hadith collections. (sihah sitta)
 
The Book of Jihad and Expedition (Kitab Al-Jihad wa'l-Siyar)
 


Muslim :: Book 19 : Hadith 4294
It has been reported from Sulaiman b. Buraid through his father that when the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) appointed anyone as leader of an army or detachment he would especially exhort him to fear Allah and to be good to the Muslims who were with him. He would say: Fight in the name of Allah and in the way of Allah. Fight against those who disbelieve in Allah. Make a holy war, do not embezzle the spoils; do not break your pledge; and do not mutilate (the dead) bodies; do not kill the children. When you meet your enemies who are polytheists, invite them to three courses of action. If they respond to any one of these, you also accept it and withold yourself from doing them any harm. Invite them to (accept) Islam; if they respond to you, accept it from them and desist from fighting against them. Then invite them to migrate from their lands to the land of Muhairs and inform them that, if they do so, they shall have all the privileges and obligations of the Muhajirs. If they refuse to migrate, tell them that they will have the status of Bedouin Muilims and will be subjected to the Commands of Allah like other Muslims, but they will not get any share from the spoils of war or Fai' except when they actually fight with the Muslims (against the disbelievers). If they refuse to accept Islam, demand from them the Jizya. If they agree to pay, accept it from them and hold off your hands. If they refuse to pay the tax, seek Allah's help and fight them. When you lay siege to a fort and the besieged appeal to you for protection in the name of Allah and His Prophet, do not accord to them the guarantee of Allah and His Prophet, but accord to them your own guarantee and the guarantee of your companions for it is a lesser sin that the security given by you or your companions be disregarded than that the security granted in the name of Allah and His Prophet be violated When you besiege a fort and the besieged want you to let them out in accordance with Allah's Command, do not let them come out in accordance with His Command, but do so at your (own) command, for you do not know whether or not you will be able to carry out Allah's behest with regard to them.


http://www.quranexplorer.com/Hadith/English/Index.html
This "Dhimma" contract is explained here.
from the tafsir of Ibn Kathir. the Dhimma contract.
 


Paying Jizyah is a Sign of Kufr and Disgrace


 
 


Allah said,
﴿حَتَّى يُعْطُواْ الْجِزْيَةَ﴾
(until they pay the Jizyah), if they do not choose to embrace Islam,
﴿عَن يَدٍ﴾
(with willing submission), in defeat and subservience,
﴿وَهُمْ صَـغِرُونَ﴾
(and feel themselves subdued.), disgraced, humiliated and belittled. Therefore, Muslims are not allowed to honor the people of Dhimmah or elevate them above Muslims, for they are miserable, disgraced and humiliated. Muslim recorded from Abu Hurayrah that the Prophet said,


«لَا تَبْدَءُوا الْيَهُودَ وَالنَّصَارَى بِالسَّلَامِ، وَإِذَا لَقِيتُمْ أَحَدَهُمْ فِي طَرِيقٍ فَاضْطَرُّوهُ إِلَى أَضْيَقِه»
 


(Do not initiate the Salam to the Jews and Christians, and if you meet any of them in a road, force them to its narrowest alley.) This is why the Leader of the faithful `Umar bin Al-Khattab, may Allah be pleased with him, demanded his well-known conditions be met by the Christians, these conditions that ensured their continued humiliation, degradation and disgrace. The scholars of Hadith narrated from `Abdur-Rahman bin Ghanm Al-Ash`ari that he said, "I recorded for `Umar bin Al-Khattab, may Allah be pleased with him, the terms of the treaty of peace he conducted with the Christians of Ash-Sham: `In the Name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful. This is a document to the servant of Allah `Umar, the Leader of the faithful, from the Christians of such and such city. When you (Muslims) came to us we requested safety for ourselves, children, property and followers of our religion. We made a condition on ourselves that we will neither erect in our areas a monastery, church, or a sanctuary for a monk, nor restore any place of worship that needs restoration nor use any of them for the purpose of enmity against Muslims. We will not prevent any Muslim from resting in our churches whether they come by day or night, and we will open the doors ﴿of our houses of worship﴾ for the wayfarer and passerby. Those Muslims who come as guests, will enjoy boarding and food for three days. We will not allow a spy against Muslims into our churches and homes or hide deceit ﴿or betrayal﴾ against Muslims. We will not teach our children the Qur'an, publicize practices of Shirk, invite anyone to Shirk or prevent any of our fellows from embracing Islam, if they choose to do so. We will respect Muslims, move from the places we sit in if they choose to sit in them. We will not imitate their clothing, caps, turbans, sandals, hairstyles, speech, nicknames and title names, or ride on saddles, hang swords on the shoulders, collect weapons of any kind or carry these weapons. We will not encrypt our stamps in Arabic, or sell liquor. We will have the front of our hair cut, wear our customary clothes wherever we are, wear belts around our waist, refrain from erecting crosses on the outside of our churches and demonstrating them and our books in public in Muslim fairways and markets. We will not sound the bells in our churches, except discretely, or raise our voices while reciting our holy books inside our churches in the presence of Muslims, nor raise our voices ﴿with prayer﴾ at our funerals, or light torches in funeral processions in the fairways of Muslims, or their markets. We will not bury our dead next to Muslim dead, or buy servants who were captured by Muslims. We will be guides for Muslims and refrain from breaching their privacy in their homes.' When I gave this document to `Umar, he added to it, `We will not beat any Muslim. These are the conditions that we set against ourselves and followers of our religion in return for safety and protection. If we break any of these promises that we set for your benefit against ourselves, then our Dhimmah (promise of protection) is broken and you are allowed to do with us what you are allowed of people of defiance and rebellion.'''


http://www.qtafsir.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2566&Itemid=64\
While killing a dog, pig or Kafir may in some circumstance be haram, it's not murder. The word Murder is used exclusively for the killing of a human. Kafir are not theoretically human under the orthodox system of sharia.
 
 


The strollers on this photo* unconcernedly watch the scene of cruelty while the kids beat the poor dog to death. They do not seem to be willing to prevent the sadistic act; after all, the dog is “nejis/ najes”, impure in Islam, let it be!
For non-Muslims, it is impossible to find a suitable word to describe such a cruel act, unless one is familiar with the cultures where such animal abuses are practised. As divine purpose, killing or torturing animals is a vicious ritual still practised in some tribal cultures, but this is not the case in Islam. Animals like pigs and dogs are considered as “nejis” or impure. The Islamic legal tradition has developed several injunctions that warn Muslims against nejis dogs.
Based on Islamic laws, a nejis body or object is essentially unclean, what can never be ritually clean by any means. No Muslim is allowed to touch a nejis body or object, it is ritually sinful. Dogs, pigs and non-Muslims are ritually nejis. There are other laws and traditions suggesting even to kill, torture and humiliate them.
Psychologically, since cruelty to nejis animals is widely practiced or tolerated in Islam, it leads to development of violent antisocial behaviour, Kids who repeatedly torture animals can develop high levels of aggression toward people as well, which unfortunately can affect these Muslim kids to the extent of being the future jihadists or Islamic terrorists.


http://www.butterfliesandwheels.org/2013/uelty-toward-nejis-animals/
So, the word kafir, as used by the "ummah" (theocratic Islamic community), is unfortunately just as degrading as the way a Klan member would intend in his usage of the N-word. I, personally, have a very significant problem with that dogma and its application in the world that I inhabit.
Thread: Use of 'Infidel' and 'Kafir'
 
 


Also, again this site reffered to me as a Kaafirs, Getting tired of that racist remark.
 
Well, it depends on how you take it. It is not always intended in a racist manner. Sometimes it is just used to denote a non muslim.


 
https://www.islamicboard.com/clarifications-about-islam/21502-infidel-kafir.html
Let us try this out.
The N-word is not intended as a racist remark. Sometimes it is just used to denote a man or woman of color.
In my opinion use of either derogatory term ( K-word or n- word)  identifies the user as an irredeemable supremacist either white of theocratic, who should find no place for themselves in polite secular society.
 
kpr37 with a pagan's perspective.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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(From 1200 BC)
The bulk of the inscription deals with Merneptah's victory over the Libyans, but the last few lines shift to Canaan:[4]
1.The princes are prostrate, saying, "Peace!"
2.Not one is raising his head among the Nine Bows.
3.Now that Tehenu (Libya) has come to ruin, Hatti is pacified; The Canaan has been plundered into every sort of woe: Ashkalon has been overcome; Gezer has been captured; Yano'am is made non-existent.
4.Israel is laid waste and his seed is not;
5.Hurru is become a widow because of Egypt.




What, or who is exactly a Philistine?
Are they the ancestors of today's Palestinians?
 
It's a rather important question.
For some reason, the keepers of intellectual knowledge (academia) are sorely lacking in this endeavor, either through indifference to the truth, or an effort to suppress the truth. It's only with knowledge of the truth, that we can make informed decisions. Ignorance is always, in every case, a poor companion to reason.
I read again, and again, Israel "stole" the land from Palestinians. This makes no sense. Historically, Jews have lived in the land "named by a Greek", it's the Greek designation of an area. It's got no connection with the group of Arabs now using the designation as a way to de- legitimatize Israel.
 
Herodotus ( Born around 484 BC. Birthplace, Halicarnassus Greece, now Bodrum, Turkey. Died around 430 BC) is to blame for this common misconception. Or being unfamiliar with his writings are.


Between Persia and Phoenicia lies a broad and ample tract of country, after which the region I am describing skirts our sea, stretching from Phoenicia along the coast of Palestine-Syria till it comes to Egypt, where it terminates


Sourced from the (Massachusetts Institute of Technology) MIT.edu E library of the classics .
Palestine-Syria was a term used to refer to a Geographic area, like New England.
Vermont, New Hampshire, Massachusetts, Maine, Connecticut, Rhode Island, or New York, did not steal "New England" from the New English.
"Palestine" was the Greek and Roman term for the area that the Jewish people among others, inhabited. There is, in fact, no historical documentation suggesting an Arab presence in the land called Palestine from Assyrian , Persian, Greek or Roman historical documents.
Arabs did not arrive until around 634  to 638 AD and the conquest of Jerusalem . There has never been a nation, or state, of Arabs calling themselves "Palestinians". Never, it's like saying I stole your Unicorn. While you are of course free to miss your Unicorn, few will take you seriously.
 
Hurriyet Daily News , Turkey. Burkah Bekid.


Hardly a day passes in the Islamic world (or in the western intellectual world) without people standing up against and decrying the occupation of “al-Quds” (otherwise known as Jerusalem). In this column I have often argued otherwise: A counter-occupation is no occupation.
Now, dear Islamists, I have a “witness” whom I guess you could hardly refute. Forget my words and listen to what Turkey’s top Muslim cleric, Professor Mehmet Görmez, had to say just last week: “After the Prophet Omar conquered al-Quds he was invited to pray at a church (since there were no mosques in Jerusalem) . But he politely refused because he was worried that the (conquering) Muslims could turn the church into a mosque after he prayed there.”
Now, read that line once again, or a thousand times if you wish to: “After the Prophet Omar conquered al-Quds…” And think about why there were no mosques in Jerusalem at the time of the conquest. Still no clue? Allow me to explain: Because Jerusalem was not a Muslim city. And now you claim it back because it is under “Jewish occupation!”
The refusal to pray at the church was very noble of the Prophet Omar. I personally do not expect you, dear Islamists, to behave as virtuously and gallantly as the prophet, but at least you can do something easier: Stop fighting for a city that belonged to other faiths before your ancestors conquered it


Mohammad sent letters to the neighboring kings or rulers expressing his personal desire that they submit to his will. One such letter can be found here. This is the justification for the conquest of the Byzantine empire. Lead by, Khalid ibn al-Walid  (or the sword of allah ) as directed by the first two rightly guided Caliphs, Abu Bakr, and Umar ibn Al-Khattāb.
Let's see what we can learn from the Encyclopedia Britannica. (link) It's secular history. Was Palestine the home of the Philistines?
Yes.
 Was it the home of an early Arab civilization?
 
No.
 


Philistine, one of a people of Aegean origin


Look at a map, and see where the Aegean is located, connect the Aegean people with Arab people?


who settled on the southern coast of Palestine  in the 12th century bc, about the time of the arrival of the Israelites. According to biblical tradition (Deuteronomy 2:23; Jeremiah 47:4), the Philistines came from Caphtor (possibly Crete). They are mentioned in Egyptian records as prst, one of the Sea Peoples  that invaded Egypt in about 1190 bc after ravaging Anatolia, Cyprus, and Syria. After being repulsed by the Egyptians, they occupied the coastal plain of Palestine from Joppa (modern Tel Aviv–Yafo) southward to the Gaza Strip. The area contained the five cities (the Pentapolis) of the Philistine confederacy (Gaza, Ashkelon [Ascalon], Ashdod, Gath, and Ekron) and was known as Philistia, or the Land of the Philistines.
It was from this designation that the whole of the country was later called Palestine by the Greeks.


What connection is there with twenty-first century Arabs?
The Sea People ( Philistines) were from the Aegean, not the Arabian peninsula. They had disappeared from the historical record, long before the Arab invasions of the Byzantine empire from 634 to 638 AD. There is no record of any Arab village or towns before this date
"Philistines" were European emigrants, from near Greece (The Aegean). There is not any historical connection with the group of Arabs now calling themselves "Palestinians". The peoples known as Philistines disappeared from the historical record at the hands of Nebuchadnezzar. They were placed into exile with the Jews when the area fell to the Babylonian kingdom in 603 BC. Said to be responsible for the destruction of the first Jewish temple in Jerusalem at this time.
Well before Herodotus set foot in the area (or wrote about it, in around 420 BC), the people that the land was named after (in Greek) no longer existed. The culture, civilization, and nation were obliterated by Herodotus's time.
 


Tel Miqne was founded in the twelfth century B.C. by the Philistines, a tribe of the Sea Peoples, raiders from the Aegean and central Mediterranean . A large urban center until the beginning of the tenth century B.C., it was destroyed, by either the Egyptians or Israelites, after which a smaller city arose that blended local Philistine cultural traditions with Judaean and Phoenician influences. In 712 B.C. this city was conquered by the Assyrian king Sargon II. For a short time, beginning in 705 B.C., it came under the control of Hezekiah, king of Judah. A third city was founded after Sennacherib's 701 B.C. campaign against the rebellious rulers of Phoenicia and Palestine, which reestablished Assyrian dominance over the area. It became the largest olive oil production center yet known from the ancient world. The Assyrians withdrew ca. 630-623 B.C. as their empire declined, and Egypt briefly established control over the region. In 603 B.C. the city was sacked by the Babylonian king Nebuchadnezzar.


http://www.archaeology.org/9801/abstracts/ekron.html
 
Now, this biblical "story", of exile in Babylon is confirmed in the historical record. And can be sourced from American Universities, like here at Fordham University.
 


Ancient History Sourcebook:
  Kurash (Cyrus) the Great: The Decree of Return for the Jews, 539 BCE


 
 But I  like this Iranian source best.
 


I am Kurash [ " Cyrus " ], King of the World, Great King, Legitimate King, King of Babilani, King of Kiengir and Akkade, King of the four rims of the earth, Son of Kanbujiya, Great King, King of Hakhamanish, Grandson of Kurash, Great king, King of Hakhamanish, descendant of Chishpish, Great king, King of Hakhamanish, of a family which always exercised kingship; whose rule Bel and Nebo love, whom they want as king to please their hearts. When I entered Babilani as a friend and when I established the seat of the government in the palace of the ruler under jubilation and rejoicing, Marduk, the great lord, induced the magnanimous inhabitants of Babilani to love me, and I was daily endeavoring to worship him.... As to the region from as far as Assura and Susa, Akkade, Eshnunna, the towns Zamban, Me-turnu, Der as well as the region of the Gutians, I returned to these sacred cities on the other side of the Tigris the sanctuaries of which have been ruins for a long time, the images which used to live therein and established for them permanent sanctuaries. I also gathered all their former inhabitants and returned them to their habitations. Furthermore, I resettled upon the command of Marduk, the great lord, all the gods of Kiengir and Akkade whom Nabonidus had brought into Babilani to the anger of the lord of the gods, unharmed, in their former temples, the places which make them happy. [1]
In the first year of Cyrus, king of Persia, in order to fulfill the word of the Lord spoken by Jeremiah, the Lord inspired King Cyrus of Persia to issue this proclamation throughout his kingdom, bothby word of mouth and in writing: "Thus says Cyrus, king of Persia: "All the kingdoms of the earththe Lord, the God of heaven, has given to me, and he has also charged me to build him a house in Jerusalem, which is in Judah. Whoever, therefore, among you belongs to any part of his people, let him go up, and may his God be withhim! Let everyone who has survived, in whatever place he may have dwelt, be assisted by the people of that place with silver, gold, and goods, together with free will offerings for the house of God in Jerusalem.' Then the family heads of Judah and Benjamin and the priests and Levites--everyone, that is, whom God had inspired to do so-- prepared to go up to build the house of the Lord in Jerusalem. All their neighbors gave them help in every way, withsilver, gold, goods, and cattle, and with many precious gifts besides all their free-will offerings. King Cyrus, too, had the utensils of the house of the Lord brought forth which Nebuchadnezzar had taken away from Jerusalem and placed in the house of his god. Cyrus, king of Persia, had them brought forth by the treasurer Mithredath, and counted out to Sheshbazzar, the prince of Judah. [2]


A second source is here.
 


Neil MacGregor, Director of the British Museum, traces 2600 years of Middle Eastern history through this single object. The writer and presenter of the BBC Radio 4 series "A History of the World in 100 Objects.


If the Philistines had returned with the Jews after the decree of Cyrus the Great, no record, artifact, or shred of evidence of it survived. The people called the Philistines, disappeared from the historical record by 539 BC, but a name would live on.
From the university of Chicago, we can find Flavius Josephus, commenting on who Herodotus may have been describing.
When Herodotus wrote about "Palestine" he referred to an area of "Hellenized" Syria, populated with Jews.


This therefore is what Herodotus says, that "the Syrians that are in Palestine are circumcised."


Are Jews.


But there are no inhabitants of Palestine that are circumcised excepting the Jews; and therefore it must be his knowledge of them that enabled him to speak so much concerning them.
Cherilus also, a still ancienter writer, and a poet, [Note] makes mention of our nation, and informs us that it came to the assistance of king Xerxes, in his expedition against Greece


Sourced by the University of Chicago
While there is no further mention of Philistines, the Jewish people, however, continue to live on the land as they have for about one thousand years at this point. The length of time is somewhat debatable, but the Jewish presence is not.
When Alexander the Great passed through "Palestine", he is said to have met the Jewish Priests of the Temple. Sourced by Gutenberg E project of the Classics  Project Gutenberg's " The Antiquities of the Jews", by Flavius Josephus ( book 11 chapter 8)


Now Alexander, when he had taken Gaza, made haste to go up to Jerusalem; and Jaddua the high priest, when he heard that, was in an agony, and under terror, as not knowing how he should meet the Macedonians, since the king was displeased at his foregoing disobedience. He therefore ordained that the people should make supplications, and should join with him in offering sacrifice to God, whom he besought to protect that nation, and to deliver them from the perils that were coming upon them; whereupon God warned him in a dream, which came upon him after he had offered sacrifice, that he should take courage, and adorn the city, and open the gates; that the rest should appear in white garments, but that he and the priests should meet the king in the habits proper to their order, without the dread of any ill consequences, which the providence of God would prevent . Upon which, when he rose from his sleep, he greatly rejoiced, and declared to all the warning he had received from God. According to which dream he acted entirely, and so waited for the coming of the king.
5. And when he understood that he was not far from the city, he went out in procession, with the priests and the multitude of the citizens. The procession was venerable, and the manner of it different from that of other nations. It reached to a place called Sapha, which name, translated into Greek, signifies a prospect, for you have thence a prospect both of Jerusalem and of the temple. And when the Phoenicians and the Chaldeans that followed him thought they should have liberty to plunder the city, and torment the high priest to death, which the king's displeasure fairly promised them, the very reverse of it happened; for Alexander, when he saw the multitudeat a distance, in white garments, while the priests stood clothed with fine linen, and the high priest in purple and scarlet clothing, with his mitreon his head, having the golden plate whereon the name of God was engraved, he approached by himself, and adored that name, and first saluted the high priest. The Jews also did all together, with one voice, salute Alexander, and encompass him about; whereupon the kings of Syria and the rest were surprised at what Alexander had done, and supposed him disordered in his mind. However, Parmenio alone went up to him, and asked him how it came to pass that, when all others adored him, he should adore the high priest of the Jews? To whom he replied, " I did not adore him, but that God who hath honored him with his high priesthood; for I saw this very person in a dream, in this very habit, when I was at Dios in Macedonia, who, when I was considering with myself how I might obtain the dominion of Asia , exhorted me to make no delay, but boldly to pass over the sea thither, for that he would conduct my army, and would give me the dominion over the Persians; whence it is that, having seen no other in that habit, and now seeing this person in it, and remembering that vision, and the exhortation which I had in my dream, I believe that I bring this army under the Divine conduct, and shall therewith conquer Darius, and destroy the power of the Persians, and that all things will succeed according to what is in my own mind." And when he had said this to Parmenio, and had given the high priest his right hand, the priests ran along by him, and he came into the city. And when he went up into the temple, he offered sacrifice to God, according to the high priest's direction, and magnificently treated both the high priest and the priests.


 
One of Alexander's generals (Ptolemy ) thought so well of the Jewish inhabitants of "Palestine", that the writings they possessed were made the first known recorded for the Library of Alexandria. Late third century BC
 




Development of the Library



The Septuagint

Aristeas, writing 100 years after the library's inception, records that Ptolemy I handed over to Demetrius the job of gathering books and scrolls, as well as letting him supervise a massive effort to translate other cultures' works into Greek. This process began with the translation of the Septuagint, the Old Testament, into Greek , for which project Ptolemy hired and housed 72 rabbis at Demetrius' suggestion. [Letter of Aristeas 9-10]. [12]


 
sourced at Tufts University by Prof. Gregory Crane
While in Egypt at that time the Jews were respected, it was not the case with the empire founded by of one of the Alexandrian Generals ( Seleucus Nicator ) in Syria Palestine. The Jews of "Palestine" were in open revolt a few generations after the acceptance demonstrated by Alexander. Called the Maccabean revolt.In 167 BC, the Jews are still resisting Hellenisation.
 


2. Hasmonean rule as realpolitik (i.e., pragmatism vs. idealism/utopianism/messianism)
The general condition of Second Temple Jewish history is one of a dependence of Judah on the surrounding empires. Judah becomes a pawn, and sometimes a player, in the ups and downs of Persia, Ptolemaic Egypt, the Seleucid empire, and finally the Roman empire. These imperial powers are interested in Judah for two reasons, namely, money (taxation) and military support. The empires' ambivalence toward greater or lesser measures of Judahite independence rests on the fact that taxation and military support rested on contradicting conditions. In order to providea viable source of taxation, land owners had to have conditions of peace, stability of property rights, administration, and commerce. Such conditions, in turn, rested on a relatively free and independent Jewish common wealth which could, however, easily turn into a military threat to one or the other imperial interest. Particularly sensitive periods are the times of transition from one imperialruler to another, when smaller provinces like Judah could see a chance by siding withone or the other competitor to the imperial throne. The ascent of the Hasmoneans to high priesthood and kingship is due to Jonathan's (one of Judah Maccabi's brothers) shrewd exploitation of the struggle of succession caused by the sudden death of Antiochos IV, a strategy utilized also by others.
Like the founders of the first Jewish commonwealth, King David and his dynasty, the Hasmoneans utilize a period of decline in the power of their neighboring empires to establish themselves as the dominant political force


 
sourced by Boston University.
 
  Gnaeus Pomoeius Maguns  (Pompey), a Roman General invades "Palestine" in 63 BC. He encounters Jews.
 


"Of the Jews there fell twelve thousand, but of the Romans very few.... and no small enormities were committed about the temple  itself, which, in former ages, had been inaccessible, and seen by none; for Pompey went into it, and not a few of those that were with him also, and saw all that which it was unlawful for any other men to see but only for the high priests. There were in that temple the golden table, the holy candlestick, and the pouring vessels, and a great quantity of spices; and besides these there were among the treasures two thousand talents of sacred money: yet did Pompey touch nothing of all this, on account of his regard to religion; and in this point also he acted in a manner that was worthy of his virtue. The next day he gave order to those that had the charge of the temple to cleanse it, and to bring what offerings the law required to God; and restored the high priesthood to Hyrcanus, both because he had been useful to him in other respects, and because he hindered the Jews in the country from giving Aristobulus any assistance in his war against


 
Sourced by Gutenberg E project of the classics
Project Gutenberg's The Antiquities of the Jews, by Flavius Josephus. Book 14 chapter 4.
 
The troublesome Jews were soon at it again. Hadrian in 135 AD.
Well into the "common era", Jews still have a nation, state, area of land to call their own. That is about to change. The name of a non-existent people has been resurrected again. Palestine is the old name given to the Jewish land, freshly conquered by European colonialists (Romans) in pursuit of empire.
 


After crushing the Bar Kokhba revolt, the Roman Emperor Hadrian applied the name Syria Palestina to the entire region, that had formerly included Iudaea Province .


  source
 
Iudaea is the Roman name for the Judean province.
 It was Hadrian who resurrected the name used by Herodotus centuries before to describe a land once belonging to a people who had not existed for many centuries.


Bar Kokhba, original name Simeon Bar Kosba, Kosba also spelled Koseba, Kosiba, or Kochba, also called Bar Koziba (died ad 135), Jewish leader who led a bitter but unsuccessful revolt (ad 132–135) against Roman dominion in Palestine.
During his tour of the Eastern Empire in 131, the Roman emperor Hadrian  decided upon a policy of Hellenization to integrate the Jews into the empire. Circumcision was proscribed, a Roman colony (Aelia) was founded in Jerusalem, and a temple to Jupiter Capitolinus was erected over the ruins of the Jewish Temple.
Enraged by these measures, the Jews rebelled in 132, the dominant and irascible figure of Simeon bar Kosba at their head. Reputedly of Davidic descent, he was hailed as the Messiah by the greatest rabbi of the time, Akiva ben Yosef, who also gave him the title Bar Kokhba (“Son of the Star”), a messianic allusion. Bar Kokhba took the title nasi (“prince”) and struck his own coins, with the legend “Year 1 of the liberty of Jerusalem.”
The Roman historian Dion Cassius noted that the Christian sect refused to join the revolt.


 No mention of Arabs.


The Jews took Aelia by storm and badly mauled the Romans’ Egyptian Legion, XXII Deiotariana. The war became so serious that in the summer of 134 Hadrian himself came from Rome to visit the battlefield and summoned the governor of Britain, Gaius Julius Severus , to his aid with 35,000 men of the Xth Legion. Jerusalem was retaken, and Severus gradually wore down and constricted the rebels’ area of operation, until in 135 Bar Kokhba was himself killed at Betar, his stronghold in southwest Jerusalem. The remnant of the Jewish army was soon crushed; Jewish war casualties are recorded as numbering 580,000, not including those who died of hunger and disease. Judaea was desolated, the remnant of the Jewish population annihilated or exiled, and Jerusalem barred to Jews thereafter. But the victory had cost Hadrian dear, and in his report to the Roman Senate on his return, he omitted the customary salutation “I and the Army are well” and refused a triumphal entry


sourced by the Encyclopedia Britannica .
 
An interesting map of the time can be found here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judea as you can see modern Israel, is much smaller than the Jewish people's historic lands.
The Romans were familiar with Arabs. Trajan conquered The Nabataean Arabs around 106 BC. There never was any mention of Arabs living in "Palestine".


Petra was first established around the 6th century BC by the NabataeanArabs, a Semitic people who laid the foundations of a commercial empire that extended into Syria. In AD 106 Trajan annexed the Nabataean Kingdom as part of the province of Arabia


sourced by The United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization
An interesting book about the Nabataean Arabs can be found at Harvard University Press.
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