US has done more testing in 8 days than South Korea in 8 weeks

  
Via:  badfish  •  3 months ago  •  46 comments


 US has done more testing in 8 days than South Korea in 8 weeks
 

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The United States has now conducted more coronavirus tests in the past eight days than South Korea did in eight weeks, according to White House coronavirus task force coordinator Dr.   Deborah Birx

"Probably by today we will have done more tests than South Korea did in eight weeks, in the last eight days," Birx said during a Fox News town hall. "In the last eight days we've done more testing than South Korea."

South Korea is seen as one of the countries with a gold standard of testing, so the statistic illustrates that the United States has been able to significantly ramp up testing in recent days. 

The Trump administration took intense criticism for the extremely slow initial rollout of tests. 

Private companies using "high throughput" machines that are able to process tests much quicker have now come online and significantly ramped up testing. 

The American Enterprise Institute's tracker estimated the U.S. will be able to do more than 100,000 tests per day by March 27. 

Birx said South Korea has done about 290,000 tests, and the United States has now done over 300,000. She said the U.S. is now doing 50,000 to 70,000 tests per day. 

Still, she cautioned that people without symptoms should not get tested, to prioritize tests for those who need them. 

Another issue is that testing uses up protective equipment, which is in dangerously short supply in some places, for the health workers administering the tests. 

Trump touted the statistic from Birx during the town hall. "I'd love you to say that one more time, because that's a big number," he said.  


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badfish
2  seeder  badfish    3 months ago

Impressive!

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
2.1  igknorantzrulz  replied to  badfish @2    3 months ago

of Sunday,   1,707 Americans   had been tested for the novel coronavirus, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. South Korea, by contrast, has tested more than 189,000 people. The two countries announced their first coronavirus cases on the same day.

In the US, test-kit shortages have hampered health authorities' ability to get a clear sense of how many Americans are infected. Compared with many other countries affected by the coronavirus, in fact, the US has done the fewest COVID-19 tests per capita.

South Korea's testing total so far, when broken down into number of tests performed per million citizens, seems to be about 700 times as high than the US"

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Yea, were # 1 Fish

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
2.1.1  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  igknorantzrulz @2.1    3 months ago

From the seeded article.......................

Birx said South Korea has done about 290,000 tests, and the United States has now done over 300,000. She said the U.S. is now doing 50,000 to 70,000 tests per day.

Here in North Carolina, a little over 10,000 have been tested and we have 504 infections.

My only question is this. If tests are administered on an as needed (prompted by symptoms) why in the hell did the other 9,500 get referred? And what DID they have? Perhaps they are in the "vulnerable" group and they got a waiver? Wonder if it's the same US wide>>>>>>>>>>>>>

 
 
 
Dulay
2.1.2  Dulay  replied to  igknorantzrulz @2.1    3 months ago

From your link:

† CDC is no longer reporting the number of persons under investigation (PUIs) that have been tested, as well as PUIs that have tested negative. Now that states are testing and reporting their own results, CDC’s numbers are not representative of all testing being done nationwide. 

Oh but Trump sure as hell wants to take credit for 'all testing being done nationwide'. 

The biggest irony in this article is it totally ignores the FACT that South Korea WAS testing on a LARGE scale, 8 weeks ago, while Trump was still 'fiddling'. 

By Feb. 27, SK had tested 66,652 while the US had tested 445. 

Ya, yay USA. 

 
 
 
Ozzwald
2.2  Ozzwald  replied to  badfish @2    3 months ago

Impressive!

Is it?  States are conducting their own tests, completely separate of the federal CDC tests.  Is it honest to compare SK national testing with US state level testing?  Is it honest to give federal credit for states stepping in and doing it on their own, with their own, non-CDC approved, tests?

We have gone for weeks with "presumptive" testing because the federal government utterly failed to provide sufficient tests.  Then when states have stepped up, on their own, you are trying to give the federal government kudos for state level tests?

 
 
 
Krishna
2.3  Krishna  replied to  badfish @2    3 months ago

South Korea is seen as one of the countries with a gold standard of testing, so the statistic illustrates that the United States has been able to significantly ramp up testing in recent days. 

Either its that-- or its because the U.S. has a population of roughly 325 million people-- and South Korea has a population of only about 50 million.

So to put this in perspective, the seeded article says that the U.S. has tested only slightly more than South Korea:

Birx said South Korea has done about 290,000 tests, and the United States has now done over 300,000. 

So despite the fact that the U.S. population is roughly 6X as big as Korea's...we have not tested 6X as many people, but rather only about 3% more.

Brix's comment reminds me of something my old Statistics professor used to say:

Figures don't lie-- but liars figure!

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
3  Perrie Halpern R.A.    3 months ago

Test

 
 
 
badfish
3.1  seeder  badfish  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @3    3 months ago

Evidently it's available and we are testing at a quicker rate than any other Nation!

Go USA!

 
 
 
lib50
3.1.1  lib50  replied to  badfish @3.1    3 months ago

South Korea had their first positive the same day we did in the USA.  They began testing IMMEDIATELY and since their pandemic response team was still in place, they began handling the virus and containing.  The USA was doing NOTHING back then to prepare.  And now we are months behind them with no flattening of the curve in sight.  Is there a reason you are celebrating Trump's ineptness and lack of preparedness?

 
 
 
badfish
3.1.2  seeder  badfish  replied to  lib50 @3.1.1    3 months ago

Aww, hoping America fails, it's the only thing left for your party isn't it? That is really sad.

 
 
 
MUVA
3.1.3  MUVA  replied to  badfish @3.1.2    3 months ago

You have to put your hopes or lack of somewhere.

 
 
 
MUVA
3.1.4  MUVA  replied to  lib50 @3.1.1    3 months ago

Why wasn’t there s system for mass testing Obama’s task force was in place for over 4 years and didn’t make a plan life long bureaucrats and politicians failed not the guy that has been in government for 3 years.

 
 
 
badfish
3.1.5  seeder  badfish  replied to  MUVA @3.1.3    3 months ago

The I hate America crowd can't hide their disdain any longer. We certainly won't forget them either will we?

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
3.1.6  igknorantzrulz  replied to  badfish @3.1.5    3 months ago

How the Hell is pointing out the TRUTH, interprettd as someone hates America ?

Like questioning a WAR, and being labeled unpatriotic.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
3.1.7  Trout Giggles  replied to  MUVA @3.1.4    3 months ago

Did the world know about COVID-19 4 years ago?

I think not. Tests are specific for the virus you are testing for.

 
 
 
Dulay
3.1.8  Dulay  replied to  badfish @3.1.2    3 months ago
Aww, hoping America fails, it's the only thing left for your party isn't it? That is really sad.

How the fuck is citing facts 'hoping America fails' BF? 

 
 
 
Dulay
3.1.9  Dulay  replied to  badfish @3.1.5    3 months ago
The I hate America crowd can't hide their disdain any longer. We certainly won't forget them either will we?

Nor will 'we' forget the 'I love Trump crowd' who celebrated those who 'fiddled' while Americans died. 

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
3.1.11  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  badfish @3.1.2    3 months ago

How is that hoping America fails? We were behind the curve on getting ready. We are still trying to get up to speed with supplies. No one wants to lose this, but the facts do speak for themselves. 

 
 
 
MUVA
3.1.12  MUVA  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @3.1.11    3 months ago

Buy why were we behind the curve because the life long politicians and bureaucrats failed they had no system in place.Its is kind of a miracle with such poor planning it isn’t worse.

 
 
 
MUVA
3.1.13  MUVA  replied to  Trout Giggles @3.1.7    3 months ago

They could have had a plan nobody ever thought to coordinate with the private sector that maybe a pandemic would happen and medical safety gear and respirators maybe needed don’t give the people responsible a pass.

 
 
 
MUVA
3.1.14  MUVA  replied to  Trout Giggles @3.1.7    3 months ago

Not to mention even if they had a test they didn’t have capability of testing in mass on plan at all.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
3.1.15  Trout Giggles  replied to  MUVA @3.1.13    3 months ago

I think that's what the Pandemic Response Team was set up to do.

 
 
 
MUVA
3.1.16  MUVA  replied to  Trout Giggles @3.1.15    3 months ago

They had years where is the plan they failed in typical government forum.

 
 
 
Dulay
3.1.17  Dulay  replied to  MUVA @3.1.12    3 months ago
Buy why were we behind the curve because the life long politicians and bureaucrats failed they had no system in place.Its is kind of a miracle with such poor planning it isn’t worse.

The Congress are NOT responsible for coordinating the EXECUTIVE branch agencies.  The Executive branch Agencies responsible for preparedness and reaction for public health emergencies submit budgets and reports to Congress. Congress holds hearings, reviews budgets and appropriates funding. 

DHS, HHS, CDC, and NIH are ALL Executive branch Agencies, ALL lead by people of Trump's choosing and trying to blame Congress for their ineptitude is obtuse. 

You claim that the 'life long politicians and bureaucrats' had no system in place yet Trump's 'Task Force' is made up entirely of those same people you decry. 

 
 
 
Dulay
3.1.18  Dulay  replied to  MUVA @3.1.13    3 months ago
They could have had a plan nobody ever thought to coordinate with the private sector that maybe a pandemic would happen and medical safety gear and respirators maybe needed don’t give the people responsible a pass.

What lead you to the conclusion that nobody ever thought to coordinate with the private sector?

That's a sadly uninformed.

 
 
 
lib50
3.1.19  lib50  replied to  badfish @3.1.2    3 months ago
hoping America fails, it's the only thing left for your party isn't it? That is really sad.

Pull that one out of your ass?  I want Americans to LIVE through this. What is sad is the party of 'life' is literally advocating older people die off so the stock market can go up and Trump can open his hotels again.  We've been paying attention up in Washington social distancing for over a month here in my area.  We don't pay attention to the moron who 'feels things' instead of listening to the experts.  America is more likely to fail unless the gop puts a gag order on Trump so he doesn't do damage every time he opens his gob. Instead of blindly defending his total incompetence, try reading about exactly why that is a fact.  And it is going to lead to more deaths because of the delays and his bad decisions.

 
 
 
Heartland American
3.1.20  Heartland American  replied to  badfish @3.1.5    3 months ago

We will neither forget nor forgive...come Nov. 3rd. 

 
 
 
Heartland American
3.1.21  Heartland American  replied to  MUVA @3.1.16    3 months ago

Not only that but Obama faced a pandemic and not only bungled it but did nothing thing to prepare for the next one 

 
 
 
Heartland American
3.1.22  Heartland American  replied to  Dulay @3.1.17    3 months ago

and who has oversight over these agencies and the power of the purse over them? 

 
 
 
Dulay
3.1.23  Dulay  replied to  Heartland American @3.1.21    3 months ago

That's bullshit Xx. The CDC documentation of the actions and timeline for the H1N1 pandemic refutes that bullshit. Just stop. 

 
 
 
Dulay
3.1.24  Dulay  replied to  Heartland American @3.1.22    3 months ago
and who has oversight over these agencies and the power of the purse over them? 

WTF does oversight have to do with a public health emergency Xx?

As for the 'power of the purse', It wasn't Trump or the heads of those agencies that ensured that HHS, CDC and NIH budgets were NOT cut, that was the Congress. 

 
 
 
lib50
3.1.25  lib50  replied to  Heartland American @3.1.21    3 months ago

You are gaslighting or just posting lies.  Stop. 

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
3.2  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @3    3 months ago

a cull

 
 
 
Krishna
3.3  Krishna  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @3    3 months ago
Test

Pun intended?

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
4  Paula Bartholomew    3 months ago

Some low life POS managed to steal over a dozen testing kits but thanks to cameras outside of the facility, LE caught him a few blocks away.  New laws need to be passed about thefts like this and people like that would serve years without parole.

 
 
 
MUVA
4.1  MUVA  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @4    3 months ago

We have enough laws.

 
 
 
Krishna
4.1.1  Krishna  replied to  MUVA @4.1    3 months ago
We have enough laws.

Link?

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
4.1.2  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  MUVA @4.1    3 months ago

Yes, we do, but these are unprecedented times.  There need to be strict laws against price gouging, theft of essential medical supplies, and those who are committing fraud with bs fake cures along with other frauds.  I just head on the news that a woman purposely coughed on vegetables and other foods at a Midwest market, forcing them to throw out thousands of dollars worth of food.  She has been arrested and is facing charges and I hope she does time and has to pay for the food she ruined.

 
 
 
Baron Creek
5  Baron Creek    3 months ago

Looks like a fun with number exercise, except this won't be fun.

South Korea has a population roughly 15.3% of the United States. To really pull even with testing per population, the U.S. should be close to 2 million. At the rate projected for testing (100,000), the U.S. will pull even with current South Korea numbers in testing in about 17 days. 

In deaths, South Korea currently stands at 126 total deaths (2.45 per Million). Currently the U.S. death toll stands at 819 (2.47 per million). 126 deaths among 300,000 tests is a rate of 0.42 per thousand. The U.S rate is 2.73 per thousand. 

For a true comparison, imo, the death toll of the United States around the 2nd week of April, must be compared to current South Korea's numbers to gauge effectiveness of response. That 17 days is the issue, imo.

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
5.1  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Baron Creek @5    3 months ago

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igknorantzrulz
5.1.1  igknorantzrulz  replied to  igknorantzrulz @5.1    3 months ago

really Fish ?

did U come back a Cat Fish ?

 
 
 
r.t..b...
5.2  r.t..b...  replied to  Baron Creek @5    3 months ago
That 17 days is the issue, imo.

Numerologists beware...as of today just 17 daze to Easter, when some say we'll rev the engines...just what engine gets the gas is TBD. 

 
 
 
Krishna
5.3  Krishna  replied to  Baron Creek @5    3 months ago
For a true comparison, imo, the death toll of the United States around the 2nd week of April, must be compared to current South Korea's numbers to gauge effectiveness of response. That 17 days is the issue, imo.

Trump said he wants to see the Churches full of people by Easter. Apparently he thinks the Virus will be "under control" by then. 

He's entitled to his opinion. But my guess is that there were be a Yuge  increase in both the number of cases as well as deaths by then.

Who's right? 

We'll see in a few weeks...

P.S. A while back Kellyanne Conway said it was "under control". Obviously she's wrong...and IMO it will soon get much worse in the U.S. (Birx's comments on the marvelous success on the U.S. testing program to the contrary not withstanding! jrSmiley_5_smiley_image.png

 
 
 
Baron Creek
5.3.1  Baron Creek  replied to  Krishna @5.3    3 months ago

The death toll has passed 1,000, so that will be your headline tomorrow.

From 4PM Tuesday to 4PM Wednesday, 74,082 test results came back with 418,810 being the total reported thus far, with another estimated 54,000 awaiting results.

As to South Korea, they have slowed testing ever so slightly to 9,314 for the 25th and a total thus far of 348,582 tests. IF the United States were to average 100,000 over the next 40 days, and SK maintains the current 9,314 per day, the US would achieve parity in tests per 1 million of 13,000. One caveat is South Korea includes tests awaiting results in their numbers and the U.S. 

The South Korean President stated that President Trump had made an urgent request about shipping test kits and other emergency medical equipment to the U.S. His reply was on the lines of "if they had any to spare." 

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
5.3.2  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Krishna @5.3    3 months ago

He can have his opinion(s) in private, but as POTUS, he needs to deal in facts, not opinions.

 
 
 
Baron Creek
5.3.3  Baron Creek  replied to  Baron Creek @5.3.1    3 months ago

A bit of reality... the headline is possibly accurate. But it is basically saying we sat on our hands for 7 weeks while the virus spread and now we are coming on like gangbusters.

The difference that 7 weeks makes is evident in the number of cases, out of isolation, remaining in isolation, critical condition and deaths. SK - 9,241; 4,144; 4,966; 59; 131. US - 75,068; 1,863; 72,125; 1,857; 1,080.

 
 
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