America’s survival hangs in the balance

  
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By:   David Limbaugh

America’s survival hangs in the balance
it should be uncontroversial to say the American left wants to radically transform America. After considering this data, and the left’s support and sympathy for the violence, looting and anarchy sweeping this country, could it be any clearer what is at stake in the 2020 elections? I respectfully appeal to reasonable people on both sides of the political aisle to recognize what’s happening to the greatest nation in history and oppose it before it’s too late.

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Our constitutional republic, our history, our traditions. Our constitution itself, and are very founding are facing a clear and present danger and it is coming from elements of the hard core secular progressive left.  They as the article below shows want to transform our country as we know it and destroy it as we know it forever in the process.  


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How long can this nation survive when its main cultural and educational institutions preach a relentless, unchallenged stream of anti-Americanism to young people (and others) who lack the background to resist this toxicity?

Along with others, I have long argued that the American left has a major problem with America as founded. Yet Democrats are outraged by the suggestion, and too many Republicans seem insufficiently concerned about it. They better wake up.

If current events aren’t enough to turn your head, please consider the following data presented by Eric Kaufmann, professor of politics at the University of London Birkbeck College.

Kaufmann writes that the “cultural revolutionaries” who are toppling statues and renaming buildings “are changing minds, and could be in a position to enact a root-and-branch reconstruction of America into something completely unrecognizable to its present-day inhabitants.” He adds: “Imagine a country whose collective memory has been upended, with a new constitution, anthem, and flag, its name changed from the sinful ‘America’ to something less tainted. Far-fetched? Not according to data I have collected on what liberal white Americans actually believe.”

Notice Kaufmann isn’t talking merely about the extreme left but American liberals. This is chilling stuff but unsurprising to me. In my book “Guilty by Reason of Insanity,” I warned that socialism is not the only terrible idea the left is promoting. I wrote: “The left isn’t turning to socialism just because its members think it’s more equitable than capitalism but also because they seek revenge against America’s founding generation and its successor beneficiaries. They want to eradicate the Western tradition that spawned our unique American culture because it allegedly led to continental larceny against Native Americans, is in irredeemable moral debt over slavery, and is forever culpable for oppressing minorities and women through white privilege and the inherent exploitation of capitalism.” I don’t claim to be a prophet, but is my statement not vindicated by America’s present turmoil?

Kaufmann polled American liberals to gauge their willingness “to jettison the country’s cultural identity.” On May 7 (before the George Floyd killing), he surveyed a sample of 870 Americans who “lean young, liberal, and white.” The group was not representative of the American population at large but drawn from the Amazon Mechanical Turk and Prolific Academic survey platforms used by thousands of academics. He consciously removed conservatives and centrists to focus only on self-described liberals. He presented them with 16 “outlandish” statements and was “amazed” by their answers. He surveyed them again on June 15, after the Floyd killing and subsequent protests, and found that things “had gotten even crazier.”

He asked them to agree or disagree that Americans should:

1. Rebalance the history taught in schools until its voices and subjects reflect the demographics of the population and heritage of Native people and citizens of color

“2. Move, after public consultation, to a new American anthem that better reflects our diversity as a people

“3. Rename our cities and towns until they match the demographics of the population

“4. Rebalance the art shown in museums across the country until an analysis of content shows that it reflects the demography of the population and perspective of Native people and citizens of color

“5. Move, after an open public process, to a new name for our country that better reflects the contributions of Native Americans and our diversity as a people

“6. Rename our states until they better reflect the heritage of Native people and citizens of color

“7. Gradually replace many older public buildings with new structures that don’t perpetuate a Eurocentric order, until a more representative public space is achieved

“8. Respectfully remove the monument to four white male presidents at Mount Rushmore, as they presided over the conquest of Native people and repression of women and minorities

“9. Allow our public parks to return to their natural state, before a European sense of order was imposed upon them

“10. Move, after public consultation, to a new American flag that better reflects our diversity as a people

“11. Consider adopting a new national language, that will be forged from the immigrant and Native linguistic diversity of this country’s past.

“12. Remove existing statues of white men from public spaces until the stock of statues matches the demographics of the population

“13. Gently remodel the statue of liberty to make it better reflect the diversity of America

“14. Rename our streets and neighbourhoods until they match the demographics of the population

“15. Move, after public consultation, to a new American constitution that better reflects our diversity as a people

“16. Begin changing the layout of our cities, towns, and highways, moving away from the grid system to follow the more natural trails originally used by Native people”

Kaufmann reports: “Every one of these proposals represents a radical blow to American cultural nationhood. Yet … six of them carry the support of more than 50 percent of committed liberals … Eight are backed by a majority of the 40 percent of liberals who identify as ‘very liberal.’ Some 80 percent of those who have made up their mind would replace the national anthem and constitution.”

Assuming this survey is remotely scientific and representative of liberal thinking, it should be uncontroversial to say the American left wants to radically transform America.

After considering this data, and the left’s support and sympathy for the violence, looting and anarchy sweeping this country, could it be any clearer what is at stake in the 2020 elections?

I respectfully appeal to reasonable people on both sides of the political aisle to recognize what’s happening to the greatest nation in history and oppose it before it’s too late. These kinds of revolutions don’t end well for anyone — including the nihilists who engineer them.

David Limbaugh is a writer, author and attorney. His latest book is “Guilty by Reason of Insanity: Why the Democrats Must Not Win.” Follow him on Twitter @davidlimbaugh and his website at  www.davidlimbaugh.com .

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1776  Traditional American
1  seeder  1776 Traditional American    2 weeks ago

Kaufmann writes that the “cultural revolutionaries” who are toppling statues and renaming buildings “are changing minds, and could be in a position to enact a root-and-branch reconstruction of America into something completely unrecognizable to its present-day inhabitants.” He adds: “Imagine a country whose collective memory has been upended, with a new constitution, anthem, and flag, its name changed from the sinful ‘America’ to something less tainted. Far-fetched? Not according to data I have collected on what liberal white Americans actually believe.”

Notice Kaufmann isn’t talking merely about the extreme left but American liberals. This is chilling stuff but unsurprising to me. In my book “Guilty by Reason of Insanity,” I warned that socialism is not the only terrible idea the left is promoting. I wrote: “The left isn’t turning to socialism just because its members think it’s more equitable than capitalism but also because they seek revenge against America’s founding generation and its successor beneficiaries. They want to eradicate the Western tradition that spawned our unique American culture because it allegedly led to continental larceny against Native Americans, is in irredeemable moral debt over slavery, and is forever culpable for oppressing minorities and women through white privilege and the inherent exploitation of capitalism.” I don’t claim to be a prophet, but is my statement not vindicated by America’s present turmoil?

Kaufmann polled American liberals to gauge their willingness “to jettison the country’s cultural identity.” On May 7 (before the George Floyd killing), he surveyed a sample of 870 Americans who “lean young, liberal, and white.” The group was not representative of the American population at large but drawn from the Amazon Mechanical Turk and Prolific Academic survey platforms used by thousands of academics. He consciously removed conservatives and centrists to focus only on self-described liberals. He presented them with 16 “outlandish” statements and was “amazed” by their answers. He surveyed them again on June 15, after the Floyd killing and subsequent protests, and found that things “had gotten even crazier.”

He asked them to agree or disagree that Americans should: https://thenewstalkers.com/the-peoples-fish-still-hand-of-the-queen/group_discuss/8976/americas-survival-hangs-in-the-balance

 
 
 
XDm9mm
2  XDm9mm    2 weeks ago

Once again, AMERICANS need to heed the warning of this woman who has lived in Venezuela what we now see right here in America.

 
 
 
1776  Traditional American
2.1  seeder  1776 Traditional American  replied to  XDm9mm @2    2 weeks ago

Thanks for sharing her wisdom here.  What she said in that segment truly needs it’s own article and seed here.

 
 
 
Tessylo
2.1.1  Tessylo  replied to  1776 Traditional American @2.1    2 weeks ago

What wisdom?

 
 
 
1776  Traditional American
2.1.2  seeder  1776 Traditional American  replied to  Tessylo @2.1.1    2 weeks ago

The wisdom from having lived in Venezuela when the government did to its culture and history what our domestic terrorists are trying to do to ours now.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
2.1.3  Tessylo  replied to  1776 Traditional American @2.1.2    2 weeks ago

'The wisdom from having lived in Venezuela when the government did to its culture and history what our domestic terrorists are trying to do to ours now.' 

But that's not what's happening here now

Protesters aren't domestic terrorists.

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1776  Traditional American
2.1.5  seeder  1776 Traditional American  replied to  Tessylo @2.1.3    2 weeks ago

I wasn’t talking about the legitimate peaceably assembly protests seeking to address their grievances.  I was referring to the looters, rioters, and 1619  project statue vandals. Lock them up!!

 
 
 
Tessylo
2.1.6  Tessylo  replied to  1776 Traditional American @2.1.5    2 weeks ago

Either was I.

Protesters aren't domestic terrorists.

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Vic Eldred
2.1.7  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @2.1.3    2 weeks ago
That is the right wing. 

What right wing?

 
 
 
arkpdx
2.1.8  arkpdx  replied to  Tessylo @2.1.1    one week ago

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Tessylo
2.2  Tessylo  replied to  XDm9mm @2    2 weeks ago

Elizabeth Rogliani Otaola can stuff it!

Worry about Venezuela and not us dear.  

 
 
 
1776  Traditional American
2.2.1  seeder  1776 Traditional American  replied to  Tessylo @2.2    2 weeks ago

You don’t want us being warned by her about what happened to her country so that progressives can’t do it to us here as well?  She’s in America now and is here to say.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
2.2.2  Tessylo  replied to  1776 Traditional American @2.2.1    2 weeks ago

The things she is saying aren't going to happen here.  

 
 
 
1776  Traditional American
2.2.3  seeder  1776 Traditional American  replied to  Tessylo @2.2.2    2 weeks ago

Because we won’t allow that to happen here. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
2.2.4  Tessylo  replied to  1776 Traditional American @2.2.3    2 weeks ago
'Because we won’t allow that to happen here.'

How would 'you' not allow that to happen?

 
 
 
1776  Traditional American
2.2.5  seeder  1776 Traditional American  replied to  Tessylo @2.2    2 weeks ago

American Circus – A.F. Branco Cartoon

A.F. Branco

The mob are the democrats and controlled by the Democrats, and if they’re silent they are truly violent. Political cartoon by A.F. Branco ©2020.

 
 
 
Tessylo
2.3  Tessylo  replied to  XDm9mm @2    2 weeks ago

They're not treating it like a carnival or entertainment you bitch Ingraham.  

 
 
 
1776  Traditional American
2.3.1  seeder  1776 Traditional American  replied to  Tessylo @2.3    2 weeks ago

God bless Laura Ingraham!

 
 
 
JohnRussell
3  JohnRussell    2 weeks ago

The seeded article reads like a white nationalist screed. 

How dare Native Americans and other minorities want American cultural life to reflect  in some part, their interests and affinities.  If you dont fully accept white Eurocentric history and culture as dominant you are not an American ! 

 
 
 
Tacos!
3.1  Tacos!  replied to  JohnRussell @3    2 weeks ago
How dare Native Americans and other minorities want American cultural life to reflect  in some part, their interests and affinities.

It already does in many ways.

If you dont fully accept white Eurocentric history and culture as dominant you are not an American ! 

No, but if you want to pretend it's not critical to understanding the country, then you crave ignorance. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
3.2  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @3    2 weeks ago
The seeded article reads like a white nationalist screed. 

Please explain?


How dare Native Americans and other minorities want American cultural life to reflect  in some part, their interests and affinities.  

What are "their interests?"


 white Eurocentric

Please define?

 
 
 
1stwarrior
3.3  1stwarrior  replied to  JohnRussell @3    2 weeks ago

Really do wish you'd put the second sentence in "/S" mode 'cause I know you're not serious.

 
 
 
Dulay
4  Dulay    2 weeks ago

I find it hilarious that conservatives are whining about 'radical change' when that's the excuse they used to elect Trump and why they want to re-elect him. 

 
 
 
1776  Traditional American
4.1  seeder  1776 Traditional American  replied to  Dulay @4    2 weeks ago

We elected Trump to prevent radical change and transformation.  We are fine with our exceptional nation and our republic and intend to as Ben Franklin said, keep it, whatever it takes come what may to do so.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
4.1.1  Tessylo  replied to  1776 Traditional American @4.1    2 weeks ago

'keep it, whatever it takes come what may to do so.'  

Pffft.  Yeah, right.

What exactly?

 
 
 
1776  Traditional American
4.1.2  seeder  1776 Traditional American  replied to  Tessylo @4.1.1    2 weeks ago

Exactly what it takes to preserve the American constitutional republic as we know it. Come what may.  We will resist transformation to another system peaceably and with all legal means needed to let the other side know that they will as to resort to force to get what they want as we will defend the existing America to the extent that violence and civil war is the only way they can take what they want. The violence will be on them though because we will simply be passively defending the status quo using currently legal means

 
 
 
Tessylo
4.1.3  Tessylo  replied to  1776 Traditional American @4.1.2    2 weeks ago

You still haven't said HOW.  

You talk the talk.

I guarantee you would never WALK THE WALK.  

 
 
 
Dulay
4.1.4  Dulay  replied to  1776 Traditional American @4.1    2 weeks ago
We elected Trump to prevent radical change and transformation.

 There you go again trying to pretend that you voted for Trump. You're a fair weather fan Xx. 

Oh and BTFW Xx, Trump in all about radical change and transformation and NOT in a good way. 

We are fine with our exceptional nation and our republic and intend to as Ben Franklin said, keep it, whatever it takes come what may to do so.

Right. We're exceptional for the most Covid 19 cases on the planet. 

 
 
 
1776  Traditional American
4.1.6  seeder  1776 Traditional American  replied to  Dulay @4.1.4    2 weeks ago

I most certainly did vote for Trump this year in the California GOP Primary.  

 
 
 
TᵢG
4.1.7  TᵢG  replied to  1776 Traditional American @4.1.6    2 weeks ago

That is not what Dulay noted.   Dulay noted that you did not vote for Trump in 2016 yet take credit for being part of his election.  

 
 
 
Dulay
4.1.8  Dulay  replied to  1776 Traditional American @4.1.6    2 weeks ago

Here's a hint Xx. Primaries don't 'elect' anyone. 

 
 
 
1776  Traditional American
4.1.9  seeder  1776 Traditional American  replied to  TᵢG @4.1.7    2 weeks ago

He did not specify a date.  I simply stated that I voted for Trump and will do so again.  

 
 
 
1776  Traditional American
4.1.10  seeder  1776 Traditional American  replied to  Dulay @4.1.8    2 weeks ago

Whatever you say....I really don’t care.

 
 
 
TᵢG
4.1.11  TᵢG  replied to  1776 Traditional American @4.1.9    2 weeks ago

Dulay referred to this:

HA @4.1 ☞ We elected Trump to prevent radical change and transformation.

You claim to be part of the group that elected Trump (he was elected in 2016).   Dulay pointed out (from your past admission that you did not vote for Trump) that you are not part of the 'we' in your claim.

Sometimes it is best to not try to deflect.

 
 
 
1776  Traditional American
4.1.12  seeder  1776 Traditional American  replied to  TᵢG @4.1.11    2 weeks ago

Whatever you say! jrSmiley_12_smiley_image.gif 🤮🦠

 
 
 
Dulay
4.1.13  Dulay  replied to  1776 Traditional American @4.1.12    one week ago
Whatever you say!

If only you could defend 'whatever you say' for once. You can't. 

 
 
 
lady in black
5  lady in black    2 weeks ago

Yes, America hangs in the balance with Crooked donnie as president

This comment stands.  HA, you can't call Trump off topic when you mention him in your own comments - sandy

 
 
 
lady in black
5.1.1  lady in black  replied to  1776 Traditional American @5.1    2 weeks ago

I don't do instagram....Crooked donnie is destroying America

 
 
 
Tessylo
5.1.2  Tessylo  replied to  lady in black @5.1.1    2 weeks ago

I don't check out his instagram posts either.  They're usually just outlandish bullshit.  

 
 
 
Gordy327
5.1.4  Gordy327  replied to  Tessylo @5.1.2    one week ago
They're usually just outlandish bullshit.  

Not to mention off topic and/or no value.

 
 
 
1776  Traditional American
5.2  seeder  1776 Traditional American  replied to  lady in black @5    2 weeks ago

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lady in black
5.2.1  lady in black  replied to  1776 Traditional American @5.2    2 weeks ago

I don't find it funny that crooked donnie is destroying America

 
 
 
1776  Traditional American
5.2.2  seeder  1776 Traditional American  replied to  lady in black @5.2.1    2 weeks ago

He isn’t destroying America.  It’s his anti American disloyal domestic opposition that is trying their hardest to do that.  

 
 
 
lady in black
5.2.3  lady in black  replied to  1776 Traditional American @5.2.2    2 weeks ago

He is a piss poor leader in a time of crisis...he is destroying America

 
 
 
Tessylo
5.2.4  Tessylo  replied to  lady in black @5.2.3    2 weeks ago

He is a piss poor leader no matter what.  

The U.S.A. is now a 'chaotic disaster' thanks to him.  

We have no leader.

 
 
 
1776  Traditional American
5.2.5  seeder  1776 Traditional American  replied to  Tessylo @5.2.4    2 weeks ago

America and all Americans have a great leader right now.  

 
 
 
Gordy327
5.2.6  Gordy327  replied to  1776 Traditional American @5.2.5    one week ago

Only if they set the bar and expectations way low!

 
 
 
Tacos!
6  Tacos!    2 weeks ago
14. Rename our streets and neighbourhoods until they match the demographics of the population
6. Rename our states until they better reflect the heritage of Native people and citizens of color

This just shows how ignorant these people are.

List of state and territory name etymologies of the United States

Roughly half the states derive their names from some native tribe name or word. An endless number of cities have Indian names. I wouldn't even want to guess at streets and neighborhoods, but I bet it's more than the 5% that makes up the native demographic.

Something like 17% or 18% of the country is hispanic and you might think we need to change some names to reflect that. But all you have to do is look at states in the West and Southwest to see that isn't true. For cryin' out loud, we have a whole state called New Mexico ("Mexico" derives from a Nahuatl word for the heart of the Aztec Empire, so it's a twofer).

 
 
 
1776  Traditional American
7  seeder  1776 Traditional American    2 weeks ago

Our constitutional republic, our history, our traditions. Our constitution itself, and are very founding and thus our exceptional nation itself are facing a clear and present danger and it is coming from a portion of the hard core secular progressive left.  Unfortunately too many regular liberals just go along with it. They as this seed shows want to transform our country as we know it and destroy it as we know it forever in the process.  Those points made by the Kaufmann questions prove their intent

 
 
 
Thomas
8  Thomas    2 weeks ago
How long can this nation survive when its main cultural and educational institutions preach a relentless, unchallenged stream of anti-Americanism to young people (and others) who lack the background to resist this toxicity?

Why do you so often choose seeds that start with an easily disprovable thesis sentence and thus the whole of the article falls apart? Of course, I am going to give you a chance to prove that the sentence is not demonstrably false by proving that it is true. That is, bring certifiable facts to the discussion that show our main cultural and educational institutions preach a relentless, unchallenged stream of anti-Americanism to young people (and others).

 
 
 
TᵢG
8.1  TᵢG  replied to  Thomas @8    2 weeks ago

I have too wondered why some put forth ideas that they cannot defend.   I do not expect a cogent defense in this case, but I am staying tuned.

 
 
 
1776  Traditional American
8.1.1  seeder  1776 Traditional American  replied to  TᵢG @8.1    one week ago

Patriotic Americans owe the progressive left nothing except to defeat them at the polls so that we can cancel culture them as they are now trying to do to us.  

 
 
 
TᵢG
8.1.2  TᵢG  replied to  1776 Traditional American @8.1.1    one week ago

It is good to have opposing ideologies.   If not, we would likely trend to an extreme.   You, for example, have expressed in the past that the USA should be a theocracy.   A fine example of why it is important to have active opposing views.

 
 
 
Dulay
8.1.3  Dulay  replied to  1776 Traditional American @8.1.1    one week ago

So revenge and retaliation. Mighty 'Christian' of you Xx. 

 
 
 
1776  Traditional American
8.1.4  seeder  1776 Traditional American  replied to  TᵢG @8.1.2    one week ago

Why tell such blatant falsehoods?  I have never ever advocated that America become a theocracy.  

 
 
 
1776  Traditional American
8.1.5  seeder  1776 Traditional American  replied to  Dulay @8.1.3    one week ago

Nope, just self preservation.  No need for revenge.  

 
 
 
Texan1211
8.1.6  Texan1211  replied to  1776 Traditional American @8.1.4    one week ago
Why tell such blatant falsehoods?  I have never ever advocated that America become a theocracy.  

because it is always easier to put words in someone's mouth and argue THAT instead of what they actually say.

It is just flat out laziness and dishonesty that drives such antics.

 
 
 
TᵢG
8.1.7  TᵢG  replied to  1776 Traditional American @8.1.4    one week ago
Why tell such blatant falsehoods?  I have never ever advocated that America become a theocracy.  

I remember you writing that your preferred method for the USA is theocracy but if that is not your position I will assume I am mistaken since you know your position better than anyone else.

 
 
 
TᵢG
8.1.8  TᵢG  replied to  Texan1211 @8.1.6    one week ago

The level of projection in your comment is staggering.

 
 
 
Gordy327
8.1.9  Gordy327  replied to  TᵢG @8.1.7    one week ago

He has said marriage should be bible based marriage, which ignores the fact that marriage is a secular, legal institution in this country. So no same sex marriages. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
8.1.10  TᵢG  replied to  Gordy327 @8.1.9    one week ago

Let's see if he 'stands by' that comment then.  The point, of course, is that either extreme operating unchallenged would be bad news.   So HA's desire to 'cancel culture' 'the left' is, not surprisingly, a wrong way to go.

 
 
 
Dulay
8.1.11  Dulay  replied to  1776 Traditional American @8.1.5    one week ago
No need for revenge.

You said:

defeat them at the polls so that we can cancel culture them as they are now trying to do to us.  

That's revenge Xx. 

 
 
 
Gordy327
8.1.12  Gordy327  replied to  TᵢG @8.1.10    one week ago
Let's see if he 'stands by' that comment then. 

I'd expect either a deflection, or outright ignoring it.

 
 
 
Gordy327
8.1.13  Gordy327  replied to  Dulay @8.1.11    one week ago
That's revenge Xx. 

If not vengeful, then just downright vindictive.

 
 
 
The Magic Eight Ball
8.1.14  The Magic Eight Ball  replied to  TᵢG @8.1.10    one week ago
The point, of course, is that either extreme operating unchallenged would be bad news.   So HA's desire to ' cancel culture ' ' the left ' is, not surprisingly, a wrong way to go.

canceling the left is the only way forward.


In her new videos, she blamed supporters of President Trump for going after her job.

“Trump supporters took my job away from me,” she said in  another new video  posted Wednesday. “I have gotten death threats, rape threats, violent threats. It was OK, but now my future’s entirely compromised because Trump supporters have decided to come for my life.”


canceling the left is easier than it looks.

  

 

 
 
 
TᵢG
8.1.15  TᵢG  replied to  The Magic Eight Ball @8.1.14    one week ago
canceling the left is the only way forward.

Wishing that 'the right' (or 'the left') operate unchallenged is both naive and irresponsible.

 
 
 
1776  Traditional American
8.1.16  seeder  1776 Traditional American  replied to  TᵢG @8.1.8    one week ago

His comment was and is right on.  

 
 
 
1776  Traditional American
8.1.17  seeder  1776 Traditional American  replied to  1776 Traditional American @8.1.5    one week ago

Our self preservation and continued existence is not revenge.  Right now simply celebrating 🥳 the 4th of July is an in your face to the political left and I’m going all out to make a point of celebrating Independence Day as a giant bleep you to the counter culture.  It’s time to celebrate our country and use this weekend to launch the silent majorities law and order backlash against what’s been done to our country.  

 
 
 
TᵢG
8.1.18  TᵢG  replied to  1776 Traditional American @8.1.17    one week ago
Right now simply celebrating 🥳 the 4th of July is an in your face to the political left and I’m going all out to make a point of celebrating Independence Day as a giant bleep you to the counter culture.

Yeah, that is the kind of attitude that makes America great.

 
 
 
Gordy327
8.1.19  Gordy327  replied to  TᵢG @8.1.18    one week ago
that is the kind of attitude that makes America great.

I think you forgot the sarc tag. But it's that kind of attitude that makes America look bad and certain Americans look like total jerks. Not to mention it's just plain childish.

 
 
 
1776  Traditional American
8.1.20  seeder  1776 Traditional American  replied to  Gordy327 @8.1.13    one week ago

So you believe that the current cancel culture directed at conservatives, Christians, traditional values, and American history is being vengeful and downright vindictive? 

 
 
 
TᵢG
8.1.21  TᵢG  replied to  Gordy327 @8.1.19    one week ago

It is simplistic.   To simply hate 'the left' (or to simply hate 'the right') is to fail to understand reality below a superficial us vs. them level.   This is the same kind of non-thinking that causes one to conclude that challenging unsubstantiated religious claims of certainty means hatred of religious people.  

 
 
 
Gordy327
8.1.22  Gordy327  replied to  1776 Traditional American @8.1.20    one week ago

What "cancel culture?" Nothing has been "cancelled." 

 
 
 
Gordy327
8.1.23  Gordy327  replied to  TᵢG @8.1.21    one week ago
It is simplistic.   To simply hate 'the left' (or to simply hate 'the right') is to fail to understand reality below a superficial us vs. them level.   This is the same kind of non-thinking that causes one to conclude that challenging unsubstantiated religious claims of certainty means hatred of religious people.  

It's the sign of a small and narrow mind.

 
 
 
1776  Traditional American
8.1.24  seeder  1776 Traditional American  replied to  Gordy327 @8.1.19    one week ago

We are going to defend our culture , history, and traditions come what may.  Period and the more the left objects the more in their face we are going to do it because we can.  

 
 
 
Gordy327
8.1.25  Gordy327  replied to  1776 Traditional American @8.1.24    one week ago
We are going to defend our culture , history, and traditions come what may.  Period and the more the left objects the more in their face we are going to do it because we can.  

That's quite the egocentric attitude. You're not the only one with culture, history, and tradition. But you didn't actually address my post. If anything, you only reinforced it. Good job!

 
 
 
TᵢG
8.1.26  TᵢG  replied to  Gordy327 @8.1.25    one week ago

Again the simplistic us vs. them mentality is at play.   Apparently he thinks that anything promoted by 'the left' must be bad.  

 
 
 
Gordy327
8.1.27  Gordy327  replied to  TᵢG @8.1.26    one week ago

Indeed. [Deleted]

 
 
 
1776  Traditional American
8.1.29  seeder  1776 Traditional American  replied to  TᵢG @8.1.26    6 days ago

In today’s world your last sentence is 100% correct.  

 
 
 
1776  Traditional American
8.1.30  seeder  1776 Traditional American  replied to  Gordy327 @8.1.25    6 days ago

I’m talking about the shared American culture,  history, and tradition from the founding of our exceptional America onward. 

 
 
 
Gordy327
8.1.31  Gordy327  replied to  1776 Traditional American @8.1.30    6 days ago

You do realize the American people come from and have different cultures and traditions, right? So you only prove my assessment correct.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
8.1.32  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Gordy327 @8.1.31    6 days ago

Some rightly believe that America is a melting pot of cultures, religions and ethnicities which is what truly makes us great. Others believe what makes us great is some fantasy "original" white bean soup that needs to be preserved and any other cultures and ethnicities who come to our shores should remain in their little pockets as side dishes, but shouldn't be allowed to "taint" what they see as the "superior" white bean soup. This coming election will be a battle between these two sides.

 
 
 
Gordy327
8.1.33  Gordy327  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @8.1.32    6 days ago
Others believe what makes us great is some fantasy "original" white bean soup that needs to be preserved and any other cultures and ethnicities who come to our shores should remain in their little pockets as side dishes, but shouldn't be allowed to "taint" what they see as the "superior" white bean soup.

I tend to think some actually want to go back to such times, like the 1700's or the "idyllic" 1950's. I just don't get such regressive mentalities.

 
 
 
1776  Traditional American
8.1.34  seeder  1776 Traditional American  replied to  Gordy327 @8.1.33    5 days ago

No one is talking about returning to another time.  We are talking about preserving our Declaration of Independence and Constitution and remembering history as it happened.  Our founders gave us aspirational goals and the framework to achieve them and keep them.  We have a republic if we can keep it.  We intend to preserve it at all costs come what may.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
8.1.35  Tessylo  replied to  1776 Traditional American @8.1.34    5 days ago
"No one is talking about returning to another time.  We are talking about preserving our Declaration of Independence and Constitution and remembering history as it happened.  Our founders gave us aspirational goals and the framework to achieve them and keep them.  We have a republic if we can keep it.  We intend to preserve it at all costs come what may."

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Gordy327
8.1.36  Gordy327  replied to  1776 Traditional American @8.1.34    5 days ago
We are talking about preserving our Declaration of Independence and Constitution

They are preserved in the National Archives Museum in DC.

and remembering history as it happened.  

That's why we have history books.

and remembering history as it happened.  

There's nothing happening to them as it is.

 
 
 
1776  Traditional American
8.1.37  seeder  1776 Traditional American  replied to  Gordy327 @8.1.36    4 days ago

 
 
 
The Magic Eight Ball
8.1.38  The Magic Eight Ball  replied to  Tessylo @8.1.35    4 days ago
Trying picking up a book on history.

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Tessylo
8.1.39  Tessylo  replied to  The Magic Eight Ball @8.1.38    4 days ago

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Dulay
8.1.40  Dulay  replied to  1776 Traditional American @8.1.37    4 days ago

Sen. Tammy Duckworth:

Does @TuckerCarlson want to walk a mile in my legs and then tell me whether or not I love America?
 
 
 
The Magic Eight Ball
8.1.41  The Magic Eight Ball  replied to  TᵢG @8.1.15    4 days ago
Wishing that 'the right' (or 'the left') operate unchallenged is both naive and irresponsible.

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1776  Traditional American
8.1.42  seeder  1776 Traditional American  replied to  The Magic Eight Ball @8.1.41    3 days ago

Sen. Duckworth is a moronic coward and a political hack. 

 
 
 
1776  Traditional American
8.2  seeder  1776 Traditional American  replied to  Thomas @8    one week ago

The seed is right on in all that it said.  It is the left and it’s assault against Our exceptional American nation and it’s attempt to destroy our culture and values and the history and potential future we hold dear that espouse disprovable 1619 agenda treason that fall apart.  

 
 
 
Adam_Selene
9  Adam_Selene    one week ago

Let's talk for a moment about the surveys. They were conducted through

  Amazon Mechanical Turk and Prolific Academic   selecting only "lean young, liberal, and white" respondents for the section on liberals. These are paid jobs. You get paid for filling out surveys. Kind of like troll training. Oh - he had 400 or so who were apparently conservative but did not post their responses.

He ended up with sample sizes of 397 and 164 on his last survey so you have margins of error of +- 4.92 or so and 7.65% respectively.

Here is one link to the survey.

You might want to review Pew surveys instead.

 
 
 
1776  Traditional American
9.1  seeder  1776 Traditional American  replied to  Adam_Selene @9    one week ago

The idea was to single out young liberals to find out what they are thinking.  

 
 
 
Adam_Selene
9.1.1  Adam_Selene  replied to  1776 Traditional American @9.1    one week ago

Again - it was not a real survey.

Do a random survey (this was not random and they were paid) of a couple of thousand. Then you can ask them to identify as  progressive or conservative. Present all of the data so you can tell is there are a similar number of conservatives who want to scrap the Constitution - such as President Trump describing the Constitution's systems of checks and balances  “It’s an archaic system … It’s really a bad thing for the country.”

 
 
 
JohnRussell
10  JohnRussell    one week ago

Attendees at Trump's Mt Rushmore rally tonight

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1776  Traditional American
11  seeder  1776 Traditional American    one week ago

 
 
 
1776  Traditional American
11.1  seeder  1776 Traditional American  replied to  1776 Traditional American @11    3 days ago

A beautiful patriotic speech uplifting America and the values of the founding fathers and other heroes since.  America, what an exceptional country!  

 
 
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