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‘Progressivism Is the Absolute Cancer on Our Political System'

  

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Via:  xxjefferson51  •  7 years ago  •  84 comments

‘Progressivism Is the Absolute Cancer on Our Political System'

Chuck Woolery: ‘Progressivism Is the Absolute Cancer on Our Political System'

Craig Millward By Craig Millward | July 31, 2017 | 11:48 AM EDT

On Sunday, podcast host and former “Wheel of Fortune” host Chuck Woolery said “Progressivism is the absolute cancer on our political system right now and has been for over 100 years,” and that Democrats’ idea of socialized medicine “does not fit the American way.”


Speaking on “Fox and Friends Weekend” on Sunday, the “Blunt Force Truth” host also said that Republicans have “no desire” to repeal the Affordable Care Act (Obamacare):

“It’s very interesting, this whole thing in health care - they couldn’t even pass a skinny bill. They can’t repeal this; they have no desire to do it.

“You can take the collective reasoning of Congress, put it in a neutron and still have room for an echo. It is bizarre what is going on there. It’s just ridiculous.”
Woolery responded to the suggestion that Democrats might want to step in and help by warning that progressives’ idea of “help” is actually a cancer plaguing American politics:

“They definitely do and here’s the idea on Democrats helping: Progressivism is the absolute cancer on our political system right now and has been for over 100 years although most people don’t know it. Valdimir Lenin said a hundred years ago, socialized medicine is the keystone in the arc of the socialist state.”

“That’s where the Democrats are going with this; it’s where they’ve always wanted to go with it. It is a socialist model that does not fit the American way and we don’t want any part of it. And it’s very difficult for Republicans to reach across the aisle to a socialist mandate.”
“And that’ll never happen, I don’t think, unless people just go crazy,” Woolery said.

“But, on the other hand,” he cautioned, “Republicans seem to have no desire to pass any kind of repeal. And Mitch McConnell had every opportunity to do this, but everybody keeps saying that Mitch McConnell’s so bright and so brilliant. He has a long, long view of what’s going on. Well, the long view so far is we’re going to lose.” http://www.cnsnews.com/blog/craig-millward/chuck-woolery-progressivism-absolute-cancer-our-political-system-socialized

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Gordy327
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link   Gordy327    7 years ago

Chuck Woolery: ‘Progressivism Is the Absolute Cancer on Our Political System'

If you're not being progressive, then you're being regressive. Or stagnant. Those hardly seem like better alternatives.

 
 
 
96WS6
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link   96WS6  replied to  Gordy327   7 years ago

It's not progress I have a hard time with it is what we are progressing towards.  Sometimes "stagnant" IS a much better better alternative.

 
 
 
Gordy327
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link   Gordy327  replied to  96WS6   7 years ago

The problem is when stagnation occurs at a less than ideal moment.

 
 
 
96WS6
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link   96WS6  replied to  Gordy327   7 years ago

So avoid it by "progressing" ourselves into oblivion?

 
 
 
Gordy327
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link   Gordy327  replied to  96WS6   7 years ago

So avoid it by "progressing" ourselves into oblivion?

More like progress past the problematic areas. Otherwise, you're stuck there. How is that better? Rather than avoiding the problem, which doesn't work out well in the long run, perhaps it would be better to deal with it instead so there is one less issue hovering over us.

 
 
 
96WS6
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link   96WS6  replied to  Gordy327   7 years ago

"Otherwise, you're stuck there. How is that better?"

Stuck is always better than progressing yourself into oblivion.   Progress for nothing more than the sake of progress ends up moving us in the wrong direction too often.   Mostly because the "progression"you speak of almost always involves government control.

 
 
 
Gordy327
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link   Gordy327  replied to  96WS6   7 years ago

Stuck is always better than progressing yourself into oblivion

How melodramatic. How are we progressing towards "oblivion" exactly?

  Progress for nothing more than the sake of progress ends up moving us in the wrong direction too often.

Progress is inevitable. Trying to delay or stop progression is what is more likely to lead towards "oblivion." It certainly doesn't do a society any good.

   Mostly because the "progression"you speak of almost always involves government control.

What "progression" did I speak of exactly?

 
 
 
96WS6
Junior Quiet
link   96WS6  replied to  Gordy327   7 years ago

Detroit is a casualty of "progressive influence"

How melodramatic. How are we progressing towards "oblivion" exactly?

Progressive policies include government control and ours is dysfunctional at the moment.  Why on earth would any sane person relinquish more control to them?

What "progression" did I speak of exactly?

What progression did you speak of.  It really doesn't matter.  You can't site a single progressive action that has not involved government control to at least some degree.    Nor can anyone else.

As a progressive, de Blasio, who has an ugly history of sympathizing with Soviet Communists, the Castros and Nicaragua's Sandinistas, believes his biggest task is to end New York's "tale of two cities."

"We are called to put an end to economic and social inequalities that threaten to unravel the city we love," he said when sworn in on New Year's Day. "And so today, we commit to a new progressive direction in New York."

While not taxing the rich to solve the inequality he's obessed with, de Blasio will push public schools at the expense of successful charter schools, agitate for affordable housing and universal pre-K, ditch his predecessors' welfare reforms, increase the dole and bully businesses.

In case there was some confusion, the new mayor clearly signaled his intentions in November, when he declared "I believe in the heavy hand of government."

 

I have a feeling we will pick up this conversation after New York's new Soviet sympathizing progressive Mayor is in office for a while.   Hopefully New Yorker's don't have to watch their city being run into the ground like Detroit was.   I don't know that the term "progressive" was coined when Mayor Colman Young was destroying the city with his progressive ideals but it is easy enough to see today's progressives would take the same route:

Raise taxes high enough so that those making the money flee the city.  Then provide no services for those increased taxes.  After enough people leave there is not enough taxes to provide the basic services any more and the city is on the high road to oblivion!  Already been there and done that.

 

 
 
 
96WS6
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link   96WS6  replied to  Gordy327   7 years ago

Here is a fantastic article on what progressivism has done for Detroit.

BTW having a catchy name and for a movement and defending it by saying things like "if you are not PROGRESSING you are stagnant or moving backwards" only works on those ignorant enough not to look past your catchy name.    Sadly, there are many that fit this bill and that is much of why the Democratic party is strong.

 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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link   seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  96WS6   7 years ago

My idea of progress is more individual freedom, more personal responsibility, fewer regulations, energy independence, less government and its spending and lower lax rates.  

 
 
 
96WS6
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link   96WS6  replied to  XXJefferson51   7 years ago

Indeed "progressives" have a different view of "progress" than most of us.

 
 
 
Dean Moriarty
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link   Dean Moriarty  replied to  Gordy327   7 years ago

We could use a good dose of regression and shrinking our overgrown out of control government back down to half the size it currently is. 

 
 
 
96WS6
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link   96WS6  replied to  Dean Moriarty   7 years ago

TRUE PROGRESS!

 
 
 
tomwcraig
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link   tomwcraig  replied to  Gordy327   7 years ago

Do you even know what progressivism is?  It was a euphemism about Communism created in the early 1900s because Communism was failing to convince people it was a good system.  Communists had to violently overthrow their governments in most cases due to how poorly people perceived it to be.  Remember, before the Soviet Union was created in October 1917, it had a government meant to be democratic in nature for about 6 months.

China became Communist after Mao Tse-tung forced Chiang Kai-shek to flee to Taiwan in 1949.  Cuba became Communist when Fidel Castro took over the country after a revolution in 1959.  In each of these cases, Communists took over a government by force.  And, in each case, the countries that became Communist regressed instead of progressed.  Heck, in the 1990s, the Chinese actually realized their economy was failing due to their Communist bent and started easing towards Capitalism.  The Soviet Union collapsed in 1991 due to their failing economy under Communism.  Cuba still is Communist, but it never progressed or had an economic boom.  Also, in each case, the common people suffered while the powerful lived lavishly.

 
 
 
oldcrankyman
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link   oldcrankyman  replied to  tomwcraig   7 years ago

"Do you even know what progressivism is?  It was a euphemism about Communism created in the early 1900s because Communism was failing to convince people it was a good system."

Pretty funny, since the first Communist revolution was in 1917.   The term progressive was used long before that.

 
 
 
oldcrankyman
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link   oldcrankyman  replied to  Gordy327   7 years ago

Everybody knows that Chuck Woolery is an expert on everything.  I've heard that the Tweeter In Chief wanted him for VP, but Chuck was too busy negotiating peace in the Middle East.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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link   Bob Nelson  replied to  oldcrankyman   7 years ago

Oh. 

OK, then. 

I was wondering if he was the guy who found the cure for cancer... 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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link   JohnRussell    7 years ago

Chuck Woolery is an 80 something year old game show host.

Did Chuck Norris and Robert Conrad weigh in too? 

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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link   Bob Nelson    7 years ago

Why is "Chuck Woolery" worth listening to?

Why does his tripe take up space on NT? Just to show that on NT one may post even the most worthless crap.

There are new members coming over from Newsvine, and it's a pity to give them such a pitiful spectacle.  thumbs down

 
 
 
Dean Moriarty
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link   Dean Moriarty  replied to  Bob Nelson   7 years ago

Not all of them are radical left wing moonbats. As you see above some of our new members actually agree with the article. 

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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link   Bob Nelson  replied to  Dean Moriarty   7 years ago

Oh, absolutely, Dean!

You do not have a monopoly on bumper-sticker thinking.

 
 
 
Dean Moriarty
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link   Dean Moriarty  replied to  Bob Nelson   7 years ago

Nor do you on what can be seeded here. 

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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link   Bob Nelson  replied to  Dean Moriarty   7 years ago

If you mean that it has clearly been confirmed by the Owner that any member may seed five pieces of crap every day... then you are right, of course! Those five pieces of crap are still five pieces of crap.

Not that I would ever say that this present seed from our esteemed colleague C4P is crap. No, no... never... 

 
 
 
Dean Moriarty
Professor Quiet
link   Dean Moriarty  replied to  Bob Nelson   7 years ago

That's only because you would prefer truths like this remain in the dark out of public discussion. 

"Valdimir Lenin said a hundred years ago, socialized medicine is the keystone in the arc of the socialist state.” 

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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link   Bob Nelson  replied to  Dean Moriarty   7 years ago

Gee, Dean! I am so grateful! I no longer have to do my own thinking, since you're so eager to tell me, and everyone, what I think. 

I'll maybe do the same from now on...

 

Hey, everybody!

Did you know that Dean Moriarty favors internment camps for the handicapped? With death panels, of course!

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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link   Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Bob Nelson   7 years ago

In order... 

Dean, you don't know what of what Bob knows. 

Bob, stop putting words into Dean's mouth. 

Only warning. Next time violations. 

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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link   Bob Nelson  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A.   7 years ago

Perrie, 

If Dean (or anyone else) posts "what I think", I will post what they think. Simple. 

Prevent the first, or accept the second... 

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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link   Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Bob Nelson   7 years ago

Bob,

Let me make this clear to you. We have a flagging system. If Dean does something that you feel is a violation, flag it. If you respond, I will write you up. Get 3 and get a vacation. 

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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link   Bob Nelson  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A.   7 years ago

And if Dean (or anyone else) posts "what I think" three times, do they get a vacation? 

Get ready to keep score...... 

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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link   Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Bob Nelson   7 years ago

Yes they do, Bob. I have a score card in my moderators group. 

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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link   Bob Nelson  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A.   7 years ago

OK. It'll be flags... 

 
 
 
tomwcraig
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link   tomwcraig  replied to  Bob Nelson   7 years ago

Bob, why are Whoopi Goldberg, Joy Behar, and other talk show hosts and Hollywood types worth listening to?

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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link   Bob Nelson  replied to  tomwcraig   7 years ago

Comment removed for CoC violation [ph]

Since you are counting that is 2. 

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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link   Bob Nelson  replied to  Bob Nelson   7 years ago

I'll be very interested to see what you do with Tom's post... 

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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link   Bob Nelson  replied to  Bob Nelson   7 years ago

C'mon, Perrie! 

I used the Flag, and it's way past bedtime. 

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
link   Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Bob Nelson   7 years ago

Yes I saw your flag. What did he say that was a violation?

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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link   Bob Nelson  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A.   7 years ago

Comment removed for violation of CoC#2. 

Bob you have repeatedly tried to undermine the moderation on this site. This has earned you a 1 week suspension ending at Aug 10th at 10 AM

 
 
 
Capt. Cave Man
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link   Capt. Cave Man  replied to  tomwcraig   7 years ago

Decent question, I would guess at the answer.. because they say what the liberal wants, or needs, to hear.  But conservatives do watch it, to see what the latest lib talking point is, and to laugh at some of the things they say, not for any serious viewpoints, but more for the "shock and awe" that they try and deliver.

 
 
 
katlin02
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link   katlin02    7 years ago

the natural progression of dems towards communism, socialism and fascism is obvious..it is what happens when a political party loses the power it so craves and it's base of supporters falls to below 30% of the population. The dems of today are now calling for violence, assignations of our president and censorship of speech they don't agree with because they don't think they should have to adhere to the american political system when they didn't win.

we got a good taste of it under obama and it was a disaster for this country, we now have a plethora of problems they created for this country that does nothing but hurt americans and the working class. why in the world would we want to regress back to dems ?

 
 
 
Kavika
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link   Kavika   replied to  katlin02   7 years ago

Under Obama I did quite well financially. Perhaps those that didn't should reassess their financial decision making. 

 
 
 
katlin02
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link   katlin02  replied to  Kavika   7 years ago

                 Perhaps those that didn't should reassess their financial decision making. 

it has been proven in statistics that americans lost economic purchasing power under obama and wages went down or were stagnant...wall street and main street are 2 different animals ..my investments did well as did my pensions  however i like most lost economically in wages on my jobs..wages  stagnating and not keeping up with inflation while prices rose is the same thing as a wage reduction....that is what trump understood and dems dismissed and turned up their noses at..welfare and poverty exploded under obama and no it was not all bush's fault, obama gets ownership of that.

do you also tell those on the gov teet to reassess their financial decisions too, are they just a victim of their own bad decisions  under trump now or do you  just give that advice to  the working class who had trouble making ends meet under obama.

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
link   Kavika   replied to  katlin02   7 years ago

Katlin, wages have been stagnant for a lot longer than Obama was president. The American worker has been losing ground for decades. 

To blame Obama for all of it is more than a bit bias. 

The advice was for you since you were the one complaining. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
link   JohnRussell  replied to  katlin02   7 years ago

Kaitlin , I can see you like to ramble on. Kavika is correct. The stagnation of the wages of the American worker is traceable to the decline in unions beginning in the first Reagan administration. Obama has nothing to do with it other than he wasn't able to turn it around. He certainly did not cause it.  

Trump fought the unionization of his hotels and casinos tooth and nail.  He only dealt with them in the trades because he had no choice. Trump had a NY building project in the 80's where he paid eastern European immigrants , probably illegal, sub standard wages to work tearing down the inside of a property he was developing. He has also stiffed hundreds of small business owners out of payment due for services rendered. He is hardly a friend of the little guy. 

 
 
 
oldcrankyman
Freshman Silent
link   oldcrankyman  replied to  katlin02   7 years ago

Communism and fascism are opposite ends of the political spectrum.  I know that the alt right guys keep saying they're the same thing, but that doesn't make it true.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
link   seeder  XXJefferson51    7 years ago

Ok all, I'm on vacation to an area with spotty cell reception.  I'm found a wifi so I'll just say let's play nice on all the seeds from right left and center when we respond no matter what we individually may be.  

 
 
 
Capt. Cave Man
Freshman Silent
link   Capt. Cave Man  replied to  XXJefferson51   7 years ago

Right on bro!

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
link   JohnRussell  replied to  XXJefferson51   7 years ago

We will notify the proper authorities. 

 
 
 
JJBella
Freshman Silent
link   JJBella    7 years ago

I'm a little curious about the terminology you folks use. I'm a NV orphan and always thought that the term "libby" was insulting like it was some kind of leprosy. I happen to be a democratic moderate with some conservative views on many things. I left the gop during Bush's 2nd term as I was fed up with being misled and lied to. So where does this place me on the cutsie name calling list? PLease don't dance around with propriety when answering this. I'm a big boy and can handle myself just fine.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
Professor Guide
link   Bob Nelson  replied to  JJBella   7 years ago

 So where does this place me on the cutsie name calling list? 

Yay! Very good illustration of the ambiant silliness. 

 
 

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