G*d....what's in a name? (striking down an idol on 9/11)
In my opinion, G*D is one of the finest ideas ever conceptualized or recognized by the human species. I however freely acknowledge that misconceptions about G*d or gods have caused some of humanities greatest atrocities. Many of these atrocious acts are with us, still, sadly, today. Men and women still fight and die over a concept of G*d. It is only by further understanding this very complex concept that humanity has any chance at salvation. Whether your salvation is secular or spiritual, it matters not. Knowledge enriches the soul, even among those claiming to be soulless.
In the here and now, 2017 (Anno Domini) fear inappropriately stalks any dialogue of a religious nature in western secular society. Profoundly, and at unprecedented levels a strict silence in enforced. G*d is, without any needed prompting now presumably a "taboo" subject, as more and more violence is committed in its name. But what is in a name you may ask? Far more than you have may have bargained for my friends. My goal is to kill an idea within your conscience. It is a delusional idea that has no basis in reality, secular or otherwise.
Humans throughout our history have believed nonsense, unbelievably ridiculous stupid ass nonsense. No one could possibly believe the shit humans have believed. It's been stunningly, and utterly preposterously nonsensical, yet nevertheless, we have believed! Some of this nonsense is named or identified as religious in nature. Some nonsense is just nonsensical.
The idea of Abrahamic religions is one such nonsensical idea.
There is the religion of Abraham (Judaism) and that is it. Abraham had one religion right? If you believe I am incorrect, please source any other religion that Abraham had, from Abraham, in his own words asserting that fact. People of the Jewish faith have Abraham as patriarch.
Christians recognize the G*d of Jesus, who was Jewish. Jesus recognized the Jewish concept of G*d. Jesus was, in my opinion the patriarch of the Christian faith. That is a connection clear and easy to follow logically.
It, the same G*d myth is killing Jews, and Christians, as liberals, and progressive mindlessly mouth the dogma of Islam as if it is a secular reality. It is not. But their claims reinforce the dogma of Islam, making it, in my opinion, far more dangerous and aggressive for the believers of the two other faiths to coexist, globally or locally. As even atheists now often times claim to know it is the same god. See word ATHEISTS When Christians in Africa, are butchered for not accepting allah as their G*d. Know that you, whoever and wherever you are, you hold the same concept of an Abrahamic G*d, used by the butchers slaughtering in the name of allah. You hold the same nonsensical "Abrahamic religions" delusion in common with them.
Let that just sink in for a moment. Do you want to continue to share the same concept of an "Abrahamic religions" with those killers?
The expression 'Abrahamic religions' originates from the Qur'an 's repeated references to the 'religion of Abraham'
(see Surahs 2:130,135; 3:95; 6:123, 161; 12:38; 16:123; 22:78). In particular, this expression refers specifically to Islam, and is sometimes contrasted to Judaism and Christianity, as for example in Surah 2:135: "They say: "Become Jews or Christians if ye would be guided (To salvation)." Say thou: "Nay! (I would rather) the Religion of Abraham the True, and he joined not gods with God." In the Qur'an, Abraham is declared to have been a Muslim, 'not a Jew nor a Christian' (Surah 3:67)
http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Abrahamic_religions
Making this claim, nothing but part of the dogma of Mohammad's ideology. Clearly separating it from a secular reality.
"Abrahamic religions". - It is a semi-modern social construct of half-crazed, solipsistic idealists who's well-meaning intent(?) has supported the dogma of some of the worst theocratic monsters our world has experienced. Yet the world's empty headed progressive dilettantes persist. Christians are killed persistently and repeatedly for not excepting that they share the same god concept with their neighbors. Who hold another god concept entirely.
CAIRO — Dressed in military fatigues, the gunmen waved down the bus filled with Christian pilgrims as it wended its way down a dusty side-road in the desert of western Egypt, headed toward a monastery. Claiming to be security officers, the gunmen ordered the passengers to get out. They separated the men from the women and children, and instructed them to surrender their mobile phones. They told the men to recite the shahada, the Islamic declaration of faith.
Attempting to force them to believe in the same god concept. These men died before accepting the claim of a mutual, shared concept of god. The difference between the two concepts at that time was so great, that they gave up their own lives rather than lie, to save themselves. That is the conviction of belief they had. This "same god", total nonsense is parroted by progressive ideologues, and Islamic ideologues alike for different reasons entirely. Yet still, the effect is the same, to reinforce the dogmatic system of beliefs held by both. Neither Islamic or progressive ideologues have any affinity for the Christian faith whatsoever. They both view it as a competing system of belief. Progressivism and Islamism are both replacement ideologies.
When the men refused, the gunmen opened fire.
At least 28 people were killed, several with a single shot to the head, according to the Egyptian authorities and relatives of the victims, several of whom were children. The attack on Friday in Minya Province, 120 miles south of Cairo, was a coldblooded escalation of sectarian violence targeting minority Christians that has left more than 100 people dead since December and shaken the country’s government.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/26/world/middleeast/egypt-coptic-christian-attack.html?_r=0
All G*d concepts have a beginning, at some point in history they were born, recognized, or changed slightly to fit into new cultural, or societal dynamic as needed by those conceptualizing or constructing their G*D concept. Here is the first source of allah in Islamic sources.
We most try to separate often repeated dogmas from reality. The Tafsir of Ibn Kathir will further tell the story of why allah is what it is.
The Story of rebuilding the House by Quraysh before the Messenger of Allah was sent as Prophet
http://www.qtafsir.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=305
The Dispute regarding Who should place the Black Stone in Its Place
http://www.qtafsir.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=304
Taken from the top of the page in the first link.
In his Sirah, Muhammad bin Ishaq bin Yasar said, "When the Messenger of Allah reached thirty-five years of age, the Quraysh gathered to rebuild the Ka`bah, this included covering it with a roof. However, they were weary of demolishing it. During that time, the Ka`bah was barely above a man's shoulder, so they wanted to raise its height and build a ceiling on top. Some people had stolen the Ka`bah's treasure beforehand,
The treasure referred to here is the black stone of the Kabba.
which used to be in a well in the middle of the Ka`bah. The treasure was later found with a man called, Duwayk, a freed servant of Bani Mulayh bin `Amr, from the tribe of Khuza`ah. The Quraysh cut off his hand as punishment.
The cutting off of hands is clearly an Arab pagan law or a custom.
Now it's codified in the prophet Mohammad's laws of 'allah'.. known as sharia.(the way or path) also, know as Mohammad's habitual practice.
Some people claimed that those who actually stole the treasure left it with Duwayk.
Afterwards, the sea brought a ship that belonged to a Roman merchant to the shores of Jeddah, where it washed-up. So they collected the ship's wood to use it for the Ka`bah's ceiling; a Coptic carpenter in Makkah prepared what they needed for the job. When they decided to begin the demolition process to rebuild the House, AbuWahb bin `Amr bin `A'idh bin `Abd bin `Imran bin Makhzum took a stone from the Ka`bah; the stone slipped from his hand and went back to where it had been. He said, `O people of Quraysh! Do not spend on rebuilding the House, except from what was earned from pure sources. No money earned from a prostitute, usury or injustice should be included.'''IbnIshaq commented here that the people also attribute these words to Al-Walid bin Al-Mughirah bin `Abdullah bin `Amr bin Makhzum.
IbnIshaq continued, "The Quraysh began to organize their efforts to rebuild the Ka`bah, each subtribe taking the responsibility of rebuilding a designated part of it.
However, they were still weary about bringing down the Ka`bah. Al-Walid bin Al-Mughirah said, `I will start to bring it down.' He held an ax and stood by the Ka`bah and said, `O Allah!
The Kaaba is the house of the Pagan Deities or gods, and here the greater one, it's called "allah" in this instance. it's "Akbar" or greater than the other idols.
No harm is meant. O Allah! We only seek to do a good service.'
At this particular time in history, Mohammad is not yet the prophet of Islam, he and everybody else living in Mecca are pagans. Who only know of pagan gods. There has yet to have been a "revelation" claimed by Mohammad, it will not come for another five years. And we see, Al-Walid bin Al-Mughirah, begging 'allah's' forgiveness, because he is about to strike the house of 'allah' with an axe, and does not want to anger 'allah', who at this time, is a pagan deity. The Kaaba is still now, the house of 'allah', and the black stone is still residing there.
He then started to chop the House's stones. The people waited that night and said, `We will wait and see. If something strikes him, we will not bring it down and instead rebuid it the way it was.
If nothing happens to him, then Allah will have agreed to what we are doing.'
'allah' is the "top stone" the big dog, head honcho, main man," Allah is "Akbar " or Greater than, the other idols
The next morning, Al-Walid went to work on the Ka`bah, and the people started bringing the Ka`bah down with him. When they reached the foundations that Ibrahim built, they uncovered green stones that were above each other, just like a pile of spears.''IbnIshaq then said that some people told him, "A man from Quraysh, who was helping rebuild the Ka`bah, placed the shovel between two of these stones to pull them up; when one of the stones was moved, all of Makkah shook, so they did not dig up these stones.''
Now on to the second link.
IbnIshaq said, "The tribes of Quraysh collected stones to rebuild the House, each tribe collecting on their own. They started rebuilding it, until the rebuilding of the Ka`bah reached the point where the Black Stone was to be placed in its designated site .
The corner of the Kaaba ( where it can be found today )
A dispute erupted between the various tribes of Quraysh, each seeking the honor of placing the Black Stone for their own tribe.
Mohammad is from a clan of the Quraysh tribe, the highest deity of the tribe is clearly a black stone. This black stone is a pagan Deity.
The dispute almost led to violence between the leaders of Quraysh in the area of the Sacred House. Banu`Abd Ad-Dar and Banu`Adi bin Ka`b bin Lu'ay, gave their mutual pledge to fight until death.
Fighting to the death over the honor (supremacy ) of a black stone is still ongoing in the contemporary world today. Open a newspaper.
However, five or four days later, Abu Umayyah bin Al-Mughirah bin `Abdullah bin `Amr bin Makhzum, the oldest man from Quraysh then intervened at the right moment. AbuUmayyah suggested that Quraysh should appoint the first man to enter the House from its entrance to be a mediator between them. They agreed.
The Messenger - Muhammad - was the first person to enter the House. When the various leaders of Quraysh realized who the first one was, they all proclaimed, `This is Al-Amin (the Honest one). We all accept him; This is Muhammad.' When the Prophet reached the area where the leaders were gathering and they informed him about their dispute, he asked them to bring a garment and place it on the ground. He placed the Black Stone on it .
Mohammad shows great reverence to the stone and treats it with respect, the black stone is an object of worship. It must have been a great honor to be "in-trusted" with the placement of his family's sacred idol. The black stone was the most revered object of worship at this time and place. Mecca, 5 years before Mohammad became a prophet.
He then requested that each of the leaders of Quraysh hold the garment from one side and all participate in lifting the Black Stone, moving it to its designated area. Next, the Prophet carried the Black Stone by himself and placed it in its designated position and built around it. The Quraysh used to call the Messenger of Allah `Al-Amin' even before the revelation came to him.''
Al-Amin. trustworthy in Arabic, Mohammad was "in trusted" with the well being of the black stone, making sure no harm came to it. He was certainly the man for the job, as now the black stone is still the main (only) attraction in the Kaaba, the "lowly" tribal deity of the Quraysh tribe, is now what Mohammad wanted, it's the only idol worshiped in the Kaaba. The "jinn" of his pagan father must have been so proud, after all, his name was slave of allah (Abdullah)
How do you possibly explain this to your Jewish neighbors that you are attempting to convince that you, in fact, share a common, mutual, concept of G*d together in fraternal monotheistic brotherhood. That is going to be tricky, for sure. But the prophet had an answer, as long as that answer is not closely examined.
And how do you explain to your pagan brothers, that you are getting rid of idols because monotheism is the only true faith, and leave the idol of your family standing triumphantly alone at the Kaaba? He turns to the bible for an answer, but he gets the story wrong, to his advantage of course. He is, after all, attempting to transform 'allah' into the G*d of the universe. Mohammad needs a good reason to break all of the idols but one. His, the 'allah' idol.
(57. "And by Allah, I shall plot a plan for your idols after you have gone away and turned your backs.'') (58. So he broke them to pieces, except the biggest of them , that they might turn to it.)
Here is the important thing to remember, Abraham never worshiped the idol he left standing before at any time or place, nor, did he acknowledge it later, as an object of worship. As far as I know the name of the idol he did not break, was so insignificant to Jewish tradition, that the name itself, has been lost in the mists of history.
(59. They said: "Who has done this to our gods He must indeed be one of the wrongdoers.'') (60. They said: "We heard a young man talking against them, who is called Ibrahim.'') (61. They said: "Then bring him before the eyes of the people, that they may testify.'') (62. They said: "Are you the one who has done this to our gods, O Ibrahim'') (63. He said: "Nay, this one, the biggest of them did it. Ask them, if they can speak!'')
http://www.qtafsir.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2638&Itemid=76#1
Here is the Jewish version of the Islamic text above.
THE PREACHER OF THE TRUE FAITH
When Abraham attained the age of twenty years, his father Terah fell ill. He spoke as follows to his sons Haran and Abraham, "I adjure you by your lives, my sons, sell these two idols for me, for I have not enough money to meet our expenses." Haran executed the wish of his father, but if any one accosted Abraham, to buy an idol from him, and asked him the price, he would answer, "Three manehs," and then question in turn, "How old art thou?" "Thirty years," the reply would be. "Thou art thirty years of age, and yet thou wouldst worship this idol which I made but to-day?" The man would depart and go his way, and another would approach Abraham, and ask, "How much is this idol?" and "Five manehs" would be the reply, and again Abraham would put the question, "How old art thou?"--"Fifty years."--"And dost thou who art fifty years of age bow down before this idol which was made but to-day?" Thereupon the man would depart and go his way. Abraham then took two idols, put a rope about their necks, and, with their faces turned downward, he dragged them along the ground , crying aloud all the time: "Who will buy an idol wherein there is no profit, either unto itself or unto him that buys it in order to worship it?
The Patriarch of the Jewish faith (monotheism) seems to greatly disrespect any and all idols.
It has a mouth, but it speaketh not; eyes, but it seeth not; feet, but it walketh not; ears, but it heareth not."
The people who heard Abraham were amazed exceedingly at his words. As he went through the streets, he met an old woman who approached him with the purpose of buying an idol, good and big, to be worshipped and loved. "Old woman, old woman," said Abraham, "I know no profit therein, either in the big ones or in the little ones, either unto themselves or unto others. And," he continued to speak to her, "what has become of the big image thou didst buy from my brother Haran, to worship it?" "Thieves," she replied, "came in the night and stole it, while I was still at the bath." "If it be thus," Abraham went on questioning her, "how canst thou pay homage to an idol that cannot save itself from thieves, let alone save others, like thyself, thou silly old woman, out of misfortune? How is it possible for thee to say that the image thou worshippest is a god? If it be a god, why did it not save itself out of the hands of those thieves? Nay, in the idol there is no profit, either unto itself or unto him that adores it."[26]
The old woman rejoined, "If what thou sayest be true, whom shall I serve?" "Serve the God of all gods," returned Abraham, "the Lord of lords, who hath created heaven and earth, the sea and all therein--the God of Nimrod and the God of Terah, the God of the east, the west, the south, and the north. Who is Nimrod, the dog, who calleth himself a god, that worship be offered unto him?"
Abraham succeeded in opening the eyes of the old woman, and she became a zealous missionary for the true God. When she discovered the thieves who had carried off her idol, and they restored it to her, she broke it in pieces with a stone, and as she wended her way through the streets, she cried aloud, "Who would save his soul from destruction, and be prosperous in all his doings, let him serve the God of Abraham." Thus she converted many men and women to the true belief.
Rumors of the words and deeds of the old woman reached the king, and he sent for her. When she appeared before him, he rebuked her harshly, asking her how she dared serve any god but himself. The old woman replied: "Thou art a liar, thou deniest the essence of faith, the One Only God, beside whom there is no other god. Thou livest upon His bounty, but thou payest worship to another, and thou dost repudiate Him, and His teachings, and Abraham His servant."
The old woman had to pay for her zeal for the faith with her life. Nevertheless great fear and terror took possession of Nimrod, because the people became more and more attached to the teachings of Abraham, and he knew not how to deal with the man who was undermining the old faith. At the advice of his princes, he arranged a seven days' festival, at which all the people were bidden to appear in their robes of state, their gold and silver apparel. By such display of wealth and power he expected to intimidate Abraham and bring him back to the faith of the king. Through his father Terah, Nimrod invited Abraham to come before him, that he might have the opportunity of seeing his greatness and wealth, and the glory of his dominion, and the multitude of his princes and attendants. But Abraham refused to appear before the king. On the other hand, he granted his father's request that in his absence he sit by his idols and the king's, and take care of them.
Alone with the idols, and while he repeated the words, "The Eternal He is God, the Eternal He is God!" he struck the king's idols from their thrones, and began to belabor them with an axe.
The King's idols, Abraham in this text, acknowledges no idols.
With the biggest he started, and with the smallest he ended. He hacked off the feet of one, and the other he beheaded. This one had his eyes struck out, the other had his hands crushed.[27] After all were mutilated, he went away, having first put the axe into the hand of the largest idol.
Why not break that one. Was he trying to elevate the status of the idol he left standing? To promote it, above the other idols?
The feast ended, the king returned, and when he saw all his idols shivered in pieces, he inquired who had perpetrated the mischief. Abraham was named as the one who had been guilty of the outrage, and the king summoned him and questioned him as to his motive for the deed.
Abraham replied: "I did not do it; it was the largest of the idols who shattered all the rest.
So, Abraham left the bigger or the "Akbar" (greater) idol alone to make a point, about the inanimate nature of idols. Because even the King knows in his heart, that the bigger idol, did not shatter the little ones.
As I read it, Abraham, had no personal connection to the idol, never gave a shit what happened to the idol after he shatters the other ones.
Remember, Abraham, had no political power and was therefore at the mercy of the King when he committed his act. Mohammad broke the other 359 idols after he had supreme power in Arabia, and was an unquestionable theocratic dictator with the habit of having those who did not submit to his requests, beheaded hundreds at a time. Mohammad faced no consequences for breaking all the idols of the Kaaba save for one.
Seest thou not that he still has the axe in his hand? And if thou wilt not believe my words, ask him and he will tell thee."
IN THE FIERY FURNACE
Now the king was exceedingly wroth at Abraham, and ordered him to be cast into prison, where he commanded the warden not to give him bread or water.[28]
Sahih Bukhari : In-book reference / Book 46, Hadith 39
Narrated `Abdullah bin Mas`ud:
The Prophet (ﷺ) entered Mecca and (at that time) there were three hundred-and-sixty idols around the Ka`ba. He started stabbing the idols with a stick he had in his hand and reciting: "Truth (Islam) has come and Falsehood (disbelief) has vanished.
http://quranx.com/Hadith/Bukhari/USC-MSA/Volume-3/Book-43/Hadith-658/
That is a lie. There is one of those idols still in the Kaaba. It is the black stone,(Hajr e Aswad ) the one Mohammad set in its place of honor all those years past.
Now, I asked what is in a name?
Allah, the proper name of the deity of the Islamic faith.
The god of Mohammad was a pagan concept, this is made clear as he attacked the Monotheistic Jews, who disputed his concept of a Deity or G*d.
He responds that 'allah' is greater, it becomes obvious that Mohammad feels the Jews have a different concept of G*d, and his (Mohammad's) the 'allah concept of a deity is superior to the Jewish concept.Mohammad is recorded to shout in the linked hadith 'allah is greater" as he attempted to force his concept of G*d on to the Jewish people of Khaibar. Mohammad does not shout allah is Yahweh, Elohim or Jehovah. He shouts, 'allah Akbar (Allah is Greater) and he is establishing the superiority of 'allah' over the Jewish concept of G*d. The Jews would not "submit" to Mohammad's assertion, so they were killed.
Sahih Bukhari / Volume-4 / Book-52 / Hadith-195
Narrated Anas:
The Prophet (ﷺ) set out for Khaibar and reached it at night. He used not to attack if he reached the people at night, till the day broke. So, when the day dawned, the Jews came out with their bags and spades. When they saw the Prophet; they said, "Muhammad and his army!" The Prophet (ﷺ) said, Allahu--Akbar! (Allah is Greater ) and Khaibar is ruined, for whenever we approach a nation (i.e. enemy to fight) then it will be a miserable morning for those who have been warned."
http://quranx.com/Hadith/Bukhari/USC-MSA/Volume-4/Book-52/Hadith-195/
In the classical Arabic used by allah to communicate with Mohammad, saying "god is great" would come out as "ilahu kabir"
kabir- is great in Arabic.
The Great History ( Arabic : ; al-Tārīkh al- Kabīr ) is a book by ninth-century Islamic scholar Muhammad ibn Ismail al-Bukhari in the field of biographical evaluation . [1]
it's not the al-Akbar ( the Greater) history, it's the "Kabir " history ( Great history)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_History
One of the many names, or aliases, used by "allah", is "the great" which is naturally, "Al- kabir" and not Akbar.
Al- Kabir ("the Great ") is also one of the 99 names of God in Islam.
allahu akbar = allah is greater...... Kabir is great..akbar is greater.
Now, ilah (god) in classical Arabic.
Quran 37;4.
If you look, some of the translations use allah. Even though that word does not appear in print, only the word "ilah" is found in the text.
Inna ilah akum lawahidun
Verily, verily, your Allah is one!-
http://www.islamawakened.com/quran/37/4/default.htm
The word god, (ilah) is used in the same verse with the proper name of the deity "Allah".
Innahum kanoo itha qeela lahum la ilah a illa Allahu yastakbiroona
For they, when they were told that there is no god except Allah, would puff themselves up with Pride
http://www.islamawakened.com/quran/37/35/default.htm
Allah is the name of the existent, the one who is entitled to the divine attributes, the one who is qualified by the qualities of lordship. He is unique in terms of authentic existence. Certainly no other existent can properly be said to exist by virtue of its essence; and that which acquires existence from it in respect of its essence is perishable, and in respect of the one who follows an existent it isperishable. (In fact, everything is perishable) "save His countenance." It is most that (the name occurs as an indication of this abstract entity in the same way that proper nouns (denote particular beings). Everything that has been said inrespect of etymology and derivation is arbitrary and artificial.
A useful lesson (in this respect): You should know that this name is the greatest of the ninety-nine names because it indicates the essence that brings together all the divine attributes in such a way that no part of them is lacking. Each of the other names indicates a single attribute such as knowledge, power, action and others, whereas is specifically the name (of God). No one applies to any other but God himself, neither literally nor metaphorically, whereas the rest of the names, such as and the like, may be used to designate one other than He. For these two reasons this name is the greatest name of all.
http://www.ghazali.org/books/Ghazali-99-Name-of-God.pdf
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Neither Jews nor Christians and instructed to venerate a stone.
Chapter: (37) What Has Been Related About Kissing The (Black) Stone
Abbas bin Rabi'ah said: "I saw Umar bin Al-Khattab kissing the (Black) Stone and saying: 'I am kissing you while I know that you are just a stone, and if I had not seen the Messenger of Allah kissing you , I would not kiss you.'"
https://sunnah.com/tirmidhi/9/53 Y
If a civilization or a culture, in finding a pre-existing need for fantasy Utopian concepts of belief, world transformative beliefs, embrace Islamism. It chooses death over life. Which I hate to point out, is in fact, ongoing in some of the religious, political discourse in parts of the world. You may or may not have noticed (Islam) sanctifies death, the dead, and the martyrs who kill, they are viewed as a cultural or political asset. This philosophy does not sanctify the living, or the learning of men, only the killing of mankind. If you want to be sanctified (renowned), or to become immortal, you must first commit violence and be killed. You don't have to cure a disease,(save a life) or teach children how to act in this diverse world. You just must kill, and then be killed in your sanctified slaughter. This runs counter to the will and aspirations of moral reason intertwined, within a public or GLOBAL sphere. ( this culture of death, is a fantasy ideology) is also worth noting that the political or religious forces governing those parts of the world ( that embrace extremism) form their coalitions out of fear, not love, or universal friendship. They are afraid of the "other", sometimes this "other" is secular, other times the "other" is religious, and sometimes... the "other" just must be killed.
They did not become close out of love, they "love only themselves". They do not share any friendships, nor common aspirations and do not agree on joint political principles. The only thing they share is fear, FEAR of the "other", and if there is no such "other", they create one in their twisted imagination in order to indoctrinate, and to intimidate their followers and become close to one another and to grow a common hate. (a sickening dangerous brotherhood of hate)
As a Pagan, unless things are soon to change, I hate to tell you, what I see.
"Merry Black" Danann, dancing with Shiva, and "heaven" help us if they invite Kali.( Kalki, the 10th and final avatar of the Hindu God Vishnu )
“Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.”
― J. Robert Oppenheimer (and Bhagavad Gita )
Written by Kevin Padig O'Raghailleah, pagan, Tuatha De Danann (child of the Goddess Danu) from Tuath i nGoath Dobhair, Gael. (now a little west of Boston)
A second source, confirming all information from the linked Tafsirs, can be found here. in Sirat Rasul Allah by Ibn Ishaq
Abridged version here
https://archive.org/stream/Sirat-lifeOfMuhammadBy-ibnIshaq/SiratIbnIahaqInEnglish_djvu.txt
full version here.
https://ia801702.us.archive.org/25/items/TheLifeOfMohammedGuillaume/The_Life_Of_Mohammed_Guillaume.pdf#page=7&zoom=200,-3,78
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I just thought that September 11 was a good day for striking down an idol.
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Your intelligence and intellectual curiosity is as alway, a sight to behold. Thank you for stopping by.
I was being kind to you. The reality is your article is TSDR.
Some of us are not teenage texting addicts, so can you please tell us who are not, what the acronym TDLR stands for?
Ooops. I meant TLDR, which may be one of the reasons why I didn't know what it meant. LOL (When I first saw THAT acronym I thought it meant "Lots of Love", and you should have heard that laughter THAT mistake caused.)
too long didn't read.
TSDR.
The post-dialectic paradigm of discourse expressed above, obliterating the concept of subtextual reality. Often times it is suggested as one of the leading reasons that Copernicus’ De Revolutionibus Orbium Coelestium (On the Revolutions of the Heavenly Bodies) outlining the heliocentric universe faced similar critical judgment. Of course, they were dogmatic lunatic theocrats.
Postmodern reply (LOL) I"m too the left of you.
YRAFOY
OK, I have a problem here. I need my Dick Tracy decoder ring to get through all these acronyms.
I think she might mean by YRAFOY "You are a fucking old yokel", but I may be wrong, cause I'm just guessing.
OK, I have a problem here. I need my Dick Tracy decoder ring to get through all these acronyms.
Me too. The problem is most of the 'children' here are too young to know who is Dick Tracy.
LOL
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My goal is to kill an idea within your conscience. It is a delusional idea that has no basis in reality, secular or otherwise.
At first I stopped reading right there, because to 'kill' a religious idea in any person's mind is a futile and hopeless task. Especially when that idea is about a religion or a belief, ...... but then my eye caught a couple of words in the next paragraph.
Humans throughout our history have believed nonsense, unbelievably ridiculous stupid ass nonsense. No one could possibly believe the shit humans have believed. It's been stunningly, and utterly preposterously nonsensical, yet nevertheless, we have believed! Some of this nonsense is named or identified as religious in nature. Some nonsense is just nonsensical.
In the first place, using the word 'shit' to describe someone's belief is an incompetent and amateurish approach to presenting your opinion, so you've taken yourself out of the game right there. Plus, the sentence itself is contradictory. You start by saying no one can believe what they believe, .....how does that work?
Anyway, since humans realized they could think, their minds have always conceived of a super being or superpower. Most people find it hard to believe the endless universe where our world exist just 'happened', so they made up some stories to justify their existence. Now they fight over which story is the truth ....and it will never ever end.
At first I stopped reading right there,
So did I.
At first I stopped reading right there,
So did I.
Please. You read the comment. No response? That's fine.
Jerry, it is laughable. Sorry but is.
because to 'kill' a religious idea in any person's mind is a futile and hopeless task
Ever hear of the cult of the Emperor in Japan?
What ended it?
How did Gen.Mcarthur deal with it?
Unless you have a sky fairy handy,(do you?) gods, deities or associated principle are only ideas.
Bad ideas are killed off. The entire history of human existence proves my point.
Where are the followers of the tens of thousand various god delusions throughout history?
Religious ideas are memes, memes die.They don't self-replicate forever.They are challenged and perish if found lacking in substance.
Jerry, it is laughable. Sorry but is.
Yeah, I'm laughing my ass off, the comedy is what brings me here.
because to 'kill' a religious idea in any person's mind is a futile and hopeless task
Ever hear of the cult of the Emperor in Japan?
What ended it?
From your link:
The Japanese concept of the divinity of the Emperor is often misunderstood by Westerners. Neither the Emperor nor most of his people ever thought that the Emperor was a God in the sense of being a supernatural supreme being.
I said:
Most people find it hard to believe the endless universe where our world exist just 'happened', so they made up some stories to justify their existence. Now they fight over which story is the truth ....and it will never ever end.
The Japanese Emperor story is not one of the stories.
How did Gen.Mcarthur deal with it?
From your link:
When the Emperor gave up his divinity on the orders of the USA, in the Imperial rescript of January 1 1946, he in fact gave up nothing that he had ever had, but simply restated an earlier traditional set of beliefs about the Imperial family.
The Japanese people did not give up their beliefs because a Gen. MacArthur order.
Unless you have a sky fairy handy,(do you?) gods, deities or associated principle are only ideas.
I don't understand why you think I disagree with that.
Bad ideas are killed off. The entire history of human existence proves my point.
Not exactly with most religious ideologies. Many ideologies end because those that are believers do not spread their beliefs and the religion ends when the last believer dies.
Where are the followers of the tens of thousand various god delusions throughout history?
They died.
Today there are about 4,200 religions, faiths and belief systems in the world. Many of them will disappear with the death of their last believer and new ones will be born in their place.
Religious ideas are memes, memes die.They don't self-replicate forever.They are challenged and perish if found lacking in substance.
I do not disagree with that general concept. However, I never said religions never die, I said, "because to 'kill' a religious idea in any person's mind is a futile and hopeless task.", that's different than a religion dying.
Is there, scientifically, a genetic difference between men and women? Clear and concise? Unequivocal?
Unless it's global warming.(LOL) Doublethink the ability to hold two contrary ideas in one's head simultaneously. Orwell claimed it due to political indoctrination.
That is you, denying science. the left denies science.
As I said, the science denying left. X y chromosomes were never mentioned in your comment. Why? do you deny they determine sex?
Neither were the differences between the male and female genome.
No, I meant the Egyptian Mummies discovered by the Greeks thousands of years ago. They can tell men from women mummies. Why?
Is an eight month old fetus, a human?
No, a fetus is, by defination, in utero.
And eight-month-old baby, no longer within its mother's womb, is premature and not in utero.
Let us try this again. it is not a complicated question
Is an eight-month-old fetus, still in utero. a human being? If it is not? what is it?
Science lets watch it change to suit a political ideology (LOL)
Is an eight month old fetus, a human?
Another trick question? If the fetus is in the womb of a human female, it is a human fetus.
No, a fetus is, by defination, in utero.
I'm not really enjoying this game. You did not ask the definition of a fetus, you asked if it was human. I answered your inexplicit question as correctly as possible. ( you misspelled definition )
And eight-month-old baby, no longer within its mother's womb, is premature and not in utero.
Again, your question did not mention any 'babies', you only said 'fetus'.
Let us try this again. it is not a complicated question
You made it complicated by not asking the question correctly.
Is an eight-month-old fetus, still in utero. a human being? If it is not? what is it?
Once again you have changed your question. If you want to play this game you have provide the specifics in the question order to obtain the information you're looking for.
That is the question that is at the heart of the abortion debate. I believe life begins at conception, but I'm not sure when that life becomes a human person. So, I do not have an answer to your revised question, mostly because I'm not a woman. The best I can say is, women, religion and science see the path to personhood as a gradual one.
Science lets watch it change to suit a political ideology (LOL)
That is a very weak and thin viewpoint regarding a very serious issue.
Politics does not provide an impact on the opinions of most people regarding abortion. Most right wing people feel that life begins at conception and should not be terminated by the mother. Many left wing people believe 'life' begins at birth, others believe life begins at conception, and in either case can be terminated by the mother, within certain conditions.
I said in my last post regarding this article I said I was leaving the thread. But I decided tp give it another shot. However, not having the mind reader abilities you require to play this game, I'm out of here because you, like most right wingers do not have any problems with cheating.
Stellar article. I enjoyed reading it.
Thank you.
Not to put too fine a point (there's a pun coming up) on it but the germanic (and generic) word, god, is not the name of any specific god as far as I can find. So, I'm always bemused (and amused) when it's rendered as G-d (or, in this case G*d) in what I think is a nod to the Hebrew tradition of not uttering the Hebrew name of god which is odd (no that's not the pun yet). But it turns out that the name of god is plastered all throughout the Hebrew bible and thousands of pages of biblical commentary. Here's how it would have looked in the text before the vowel markings (called "pointings"--there's the pun--or niqqud) began to be added to the text in the early middle ages to aid non-Hebrew speakers in the pronunciation):
יהוה
And here it is with the niqqud:
יְהֹוָה
But despite all the trouble taken to show how it's pronounced, it never is when the text is read aloud since it's considered blasphemous to attempt to pronounce it. Instead, other words are substituted such as "Adonai" ("lord") or "ha shem" which is literally "the name."
Of course, non-Jews have felt free to pronounce the name anyway and in various ways: Yahweh, Jehovah, etc.
Anyway, it's just another way I find the way people deal with religion and its symbols and language so fascinatingly weird or weirdly fascinating.
Is the subject so objectional for you that you felt a need to derail the subject?
Is the subject so objectional[sic] for you that you felt a need to derail the subject?
What is it about facts that you find so objectionable?
What is it about facts that you find so objectionable?
I find nothing objectional about facts. I don't really understand the origin of your statements.I find it mildly amusing however. Facts like everything in life have their place. Those facts were a poor attempt at a derail in my opinion. It's like graffiti splashed on the side of a building by anarchists or street gangs to mark territory. Frustration, juvenal prank. No intellectual effort needed, just something to do
Facts like everything in life have their place.
They certainly didn't find their way into this laugher.
They certainly didn't find their way into this laugher.
Knowledge or intellectual ability would allow you to question or disprove my sourced contentions.(an assertion, especially one maintained in argument.)
Let's see how it plays out shall we (LOL)
TLDNR
TLDNR
Reality is often greatly detailed, long and harsh. That is why some freely choose to reject reality in place of dogma. Either religious dogma or secular dogma. It is all just dogma.
Sorry, but there are many others I will rely on to explain Islam before I get to you.
Karen Armstrong (LOL)
Islam is a religion of success. Unlike Christianity, which has as its main image, in the west at least, a man dying in a devastating, disgraceful, helpless death.
Unlike Christianity, which has as its main image, in the west at least, a man dying in a devastating, disgraceful, helpless death.
I've never met any more greedy, grasping, materialistic, superficial and idolatrous people than the "devout" christians that have crossed my path during my lengthy lifetime. One of those people who claims to be a christian is the current occupant of the White House to this country's everlasting shame.
I'll repeat what I said above. Some of us are not teenage texting addicts, so can you please tell us what you mean with your acronym TLDNR?
Never mind. From the decypering of the first one I realized that this one means, (for the benefit of non-teenage-texting-addicts): "Too Long Did Not Read". If it means anything else, please provide a translation ot the acronyms you make up and want to use for the benefit of us who are not teenage-texting-addicts.
So much I didn't know. Thank you.
Your comment alone makes the effort worthwhile.Thank you.
So much I didn't know.
You don't know how much self-restraint I'm exercising right now. In fact, I didn't know I had it in me.
Excellent informative article, thanks.
Thank you Kavika.
Dear Friend KPR37: Thank you for your fine and high quality scholarship on this topic.
It was on point.
You were thorough.
Your approach systematic.
We need more high level articles such as this on the news talkers.
In Jewish Scripture (primary Tanach) and many secondary commentaries there are seven names use to refer to G-d.
Each reveals an aspect of His Divine being.
My favorite ascription is from the hymn El Ma'aleh Rachamim.
That means, "G-d filled with mercy".
I stand in awe of G-d that He is filled with this quality.
Well done KPR 37.
We are grateful.
Peace and Abundant Blessings to One and All.
Enoch.
We, Irish pagan's really have no name what so ever for G*d. Danu as a goddess was somewhat imposed by conquering English Christians in the tenth and eleventh centuries. Why? Me, not a clue!!
Around 80 to 90% of what is written about the people of Danu, is utter nonsense. Made up, for possibly nefarious reasons. (LOL)
We were, according to what little is left, a tribe of Celts, who were strict monotheists.
Old Irish evolved from the language my people brought to Ireland, We called ourselves the tribe of Danu. (I think)?
I don't believe they ever referred to themselves as Tuath De" (people of G*d.) I know Tuatha de" Danann, is made up. It means nothing at all. It has no religious significance at all. It is just a name we were stuck with by people who disliked us, in the tenth century. History is very funny sometimes, isn't it?
That is Christian writings. Not from the people identified as the tribe of Danu.
Also strict monotheists.
In the eleventh century, in Christian Ireland, being compared with the Jewish people was not a term of endearment.
Again that is Christian writers, defining us. I believe the entire "Danann" thing is just simply made, up by people who did not like us.
The tribe of Danu has a whole lot of Arcological evidence to be a myth as well. There is also the language thing. The tribe of Danu is credited with introducing the language to Ireland.
Enoch, why are you praising an obviously anti-Muslim article?
Enoch, why are you praising an obviously anti-Muslim article?
I think you probably spotted Enoch from the beginning and know the answer to your question.
Actually I think Enoch is a fine man and a religious leader. I was just asking why he chose to praise KPR's article.
Every article KPR writes about Islam is anti-Muslim, so there wasnt even any need to do more than glance through it.
anti-Muslim
Can to define "Muslim" and source what Muslim, I display a bigoted attitude toward?
I think the only thing we knew for certain about Enoch is he's really smooth. But now we know something else about him and his views. I suspect he'll reveal more as time goes on.
It is obvious you know nothing about Enoch at all. Or...perhaps it is your own bias that promotes such a negative opinion of someone who believes in God. Anyone who has been here on NT more than a few weeks or months knows that what you are saying could not be further from the truth.
You should not judge the thinking of others when you know nothing at all about them. I am sure that you would take great exception to others doing that to you.
obviously anti-Muslim article?
Muslims are human beings ( I criticize not a single one in this article) there are 1.5 billion of them on this planet. They can not be generalized.
Islam is a set of codified ideas, and as such, is open to critique.
So progressive of you John to want to enforce Islamic blasphemy laws here.
You most be so very proud of yourself?
Skirting the CoC [ph] that would be grand! Really really, it would, you got my vote dude!
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Comment removed for CoC violation[ph] You've just revealed to us that you don't have a shred of a decent argument to use.
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Did you know that the personal attack is the first option of the intellectually inadequate?
So progressive of you John to want to enforce Islamic blasphemy laws here.
No, in reality, something that seems very foreign to you, an article like this could not be published in an Islamic nation due to the blasphemy law. Comment removed for skirting the CoC [ph]
an article like this could not be published in an Islamic nation due to the blasphemy law. Which I get the distinct impression John would enforce here were he capable of doing so.
You are imagining things.
You are imagining things.
Clueless but funny.
I am neither pro or anti Muslim, or pro or anti any other religion.
I am neither pro or anti Muslim
If true, can you tell me why it is only articles critical of Islam, that you don't like?
Now I could be wrong, please correct if I am. By sourcing similar comments you have left on articles critical of, say Christianity?
These are your words
"If a civilization or a culture, in finding a pre-existing need for fantasy Utopian concepts of belief, world transformative beliefs, embrace Islamism. It chooses death over life. Which I hate to point out, is in fact, ongoing in some of the religious, political discourse in parts of the world. You may or may not have noticed (Islam) sanctifies death, the dead, and the martyrs who kill, they are viewed as a cultural or political asset. This philosophy does not sanctify the living, or the learning of men, only the killing of mankind. If you want to be sanctified (renowned), or to become immortal, you must first commit violence and be killed. You don't have to cure a disease,(save a life) or teach children how to act in this diverse world. You just must kill, and then be killed in your sanctified slaughter. This runs counter to the will and aspirations of moral reason intertwined, within a public or GLOBAL sphere. ( this culture of death, is a fantasy ideology) is also worth noting that the political or religious forces governing those parts of the world ( that embrace extremism) form their coalitions out of fear, not love, or universal friendship. They are afraid of the "other", sometimes this "other" is secular, other times the "other" is religious, and sometimes... the "other" just must be killed."
You are "rabidly" anti-Muslim. What I don't know is why people fall all over themselves to praise it.
Is it fair to say that there are scholars of Islam that do not agree with you?
You are "rabidly" anti-Muslim
Again what muslims have I displayed a bigoted atitude toward. You continue the avoid that to continue your DELUSIONAL BELIEFS about me.
going in some of the religious, political discourse in parts of the world. You may or may not have noticed (Islam) sanctifies death, the dead, and the martyrs who kill, they are viewed as a cultural or political asset. This philosophy does not sanctify the living, or the learning of men, only the killing of mankind.
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is an accurate description of reality. Not my fault that you choose to reject it. Did you think I was making that up? Did you think I would not have a sources to back up my writing?
The word ummah means the theocratic community
The Shaheed (Martyr/Witness)
1 - The blood of the Shaheed smells of musk:
"By the One in Whose Hand is my soul, no one is injured in the Path of Allah - and Allah knows best who is truly wounded in His Path - except that he comes (with his wound) on the Day of Resurrection, its colour the colour of blood, and its scent that of musk."
[Muslim and Ahmad]
2 - The Most Beloved of the drops to Allah:
"There is nothing more beloved to Allah than two drops or two marks. The teardrop that falls from the fear of Allah, and the drop of blood shed in the Path of Allah. And as for the marks, then a mark in the Path of Allah, and a mark in an obligation from the obligations unto Allah".
(Hasan, reported by at-Tirmidhi)
3 - The Shaheed Wishes to Return to this World:
"Any slave [of Allah] who dies and has been bestowed good from Allah, does not wish to return to the World, even if he is given the World and what it contains; except a Shaheed, due to what he sees from the virtues of Shahaadah [Martyrdom]. So he wishes to return to the World in order to be killed again" - and in another wording - "So that he may be killed ten times due to what he receives from the honour "
[al-Bukhari and Muslim]
4 - Haarithah in the Highest Firdaws:
The Prophet - May the Salaah and Salaam of Allah be upon him - said to Umm Haarithah bint an-Nu'maan - after her son was killed in the battle of Badr - after she asked:
"Where is he (i.e. is he in Paradise or the Fire)?" -
he replied,
"Indeed, he is in the highest Firdaws"
[al-Bukhaari]
In another Hadeeth reported by al- Bukhaari :
"Indeed, in Paradise are a hundred levels which Allah has prepared for the Mujahideen in His Path. The distance between each level is that of between the heavens and the earth. So when you ask of Allah, then ask Him for Firdaws, for it is the center of Paradise, and the highest part of Paradise, and above it is the throne of The Most Merciful, from whence, the highest Firdaws, the rivers of Paradise spring forth"
5 - The Souls of the Shuhadaa` in the Hearts of Green Birds:
"Indeed the souls of the martyrs are in the hearts of green birds, and they have lanterns hanging underneath the ' arsh (the throne of Allaah). They roam around in Paradise wherever they wish, then they return to their lanterns. So, their Lord enquires : "Do you desire anything?" They say, "What can we desire for, when we roam around in Paradise wherever we wish?" And He asks them this three times. When they realize that they will not cease to be questioned, they say, "O Lord! We wish that you return our souls to our bodies, in order that we be killed in Your Path again" When it is realized that they have no need, they will be left alone."
[Muslim]
6 - Special Favours for the Shaheed:
"The Shaheed is granted seven special favours from Allah. He is forgiven (his sins) at the first drop of his blood. He sees his place in Paradise. He is dressed in the clothes of Iman. He is married to the Hoor al-`Ain (beautiful women of Paradise). He is saved from the punishment of the grave. He will be protected from the great fear of the Day of Judgement. A crown of honour will be placed on his head, one jewel of which is better than the whole world and what it contains. He is married to seventy-two of the Hoor al-`Ain (beautiful women of Paradise), and he will be able to intercede for seventy members of his family."
[Saheeh - Related by Ahmad, at-Tirmidhi and Ibn Hibbaan]
7 - ash-Shahaadah is better than cities and villages:
"To be killed in the Path of Allah is more beloved to me than that people of cities and villages belong to me"
[Ahmad - narrators are trustworthy, and the chain is strong]
8 - The Shaheed does not feel the pain of death:
"The Shaheed does not feel [any pain] from killing, except as one of you feels the prick of a needle"
[Ahmad, at-Tirmidhi and an-Nasaa`I and the Sanad is Hasan]
9 - Levels of Shuhadaa`:
"The best of the Shuhadaa` are those who fight in the frontlines, and do not turn away their faces until they are killed. They will be thrown into the highest rooms of Paradise, and Allah will laugh at them. And when your Lord laughs at a slave in a certain instance, then there is no account for him"
[Ahmad with Saheeh chain (Saheeh al-Jami 1118)]
10 - "There are five (deaths) due to which a person is a Shaheed:
The one killed in the Path of Allah is Shaheed, the one who drowns in the Path of Allah is a Shaheed, the one who dies due to stomach illness in the Path of Allah is a Shaheed, the one who dies of plague in the Path of Allah is a Shaheed, and the woman who died in childbirth is a Shaheedah"
[Saheeh, reported by an-Nisaa`i from `Uqbah Ibn Naafi'. Also found in Saheeh al-Jami #3249]
Adopted from the works of ash-Sheikh ash-Shaheed 'Abdullah Azzam
Allah knows best
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First Khutbah
O Muslims! Achieving noble and lofty objectives require enormous sacrifices in proportion. There can be no doubt that the higher an objective is, the greater its sacrifice must be. Therefore, if ones ultimate objective is to please Allaah and hope to be granted Paradise, then defending Allaah’s religion and protecting His Book and sacred places ranks highest in attempting to attain His pleasure.
Sacrifice comes in many shapes, forms and levels, it can be performed through many different channels, but there is no doubt that the sacrificing of one’s soul for the sake of Allaah in order to defeat His enemies and support Islaam is the very highest level. This is of course Shahaadah , or martyrdom. The Prophet sallallaahu ‘alaihi wa sallam exerted maximum effort to instil the magnitude of Shahaadah as well as the concept of Jihaad deep into the hearts of his companions and his followers who were to come after him. He sallallaahu ‘alaihi wa sallam used two methods in order to achieve this objective:
Firstly: By repeatedly declaring his deep love and fervent wish for Shahaadah . Abu Hurayrah , may Allaah be pleased with him, narrated that the Prophet sallallaahu ‘alaihi wa sallam said: “I swear by the One in Whose Hands my soul is, I wish that I would fight for the sake of Allaah (i.e., Jihaad) and get martyred, then return and fight again and get martyred, then return and fight again and get martyred” (Bukhaari & Muslim) What a wonderful wish coming from the purest of hearts! This is nothing except a reflection of deep love and overwhelming desire; a desire to attain Shahaadah , which is one of the greatest paths to Paradise .
Secondly: By explaining the virtues of Shahaadah and the ranks of the martyrs in Paradise as well as descriptions of their bounties, such as in the Hadeeth when Marwaan said: “We asked ‘Abdullaah Ibn Mas’ood, may Allaah be pleased with him, about the following verse: (which translates as): “And never think of those who have been killed in the cause of Allaah as dead. Rather, they are alive with their Lord, receiving provision.” (Aal-‘Imraan: 169).’ He, may Allaah be pleased with him, replied: “We asked the Prophet sallallaahu ‘alaihi wa sallam about this verse and he replied: “Their (i.e., the martyrs souls) will live inside green birds that dwell in designated lamps which hang on the throne of Allaah, they will roam freely in Paradise as they please, then return to these lamps” ” (Muslim).
A Shaheed has six other benefits; Al-Miqdaam Ibn Ma’di Karib , may Allaah be pleased with him, narrated that the Prophet sallallaahu ‘alaihi wa sallam said: “A martyr has six bounties: He will be forgiven with the first drop of his blood that is spilt; He will see his place in Paradise (at the time of death); He will be saved from the ‘Great Horror’ (on the Day of Judgment): A Crown of Dignity will be placed on his head, which contains many corundums, each one being more precious than this life and all that it contains; He will have seventy two Women of Paradise; And, he will be allowed to intercede for seventy of his family members (who would have otherwise gone to hell).” (Tirmidhi & Ibn Maajah).
The pain that a martyr feels at the time of death will be reduced so greatly that he will only feel as if he was stung by a mosquito. Abu Hurayrah narrated that the Prophet sallallaahu ‘alaihi wa sallam said: “A martyr only feels from the effect of being killed that which one would when being stung by a mosquito.” (Tirmidhi, Nasaa’i and others).
Moreover, the finest dwellings in Paradise are those of the martyrs. Samurah Ibn Jundub , may Allaah be pleased with him, narrated that the Prophet sallallaahu ‘alaihi wa sallam said: “Last night I was inspired (through a dream); I saw two men come to me and take me up a tree (in Paradise) then into a dwelling which was the best I have ever seen; they informed me that it was the dwelling of the martyrs.” (Bukhaari).
Also, the angels spread their wings over the body of a martyr as a form of honour, dignity and respect. Jaabir Ibn ‘Abdullaah , may Allah be pleased with him narrated: “ My father’s body was brought to the Prophet sallallaahu ‘alaihi wa sallam on the day of Uhud. The disbelievers had mutilated it; I went to uncover his face when some of my family members stopped me. Then the Prophet sallallaahu ‘alaihi wa sallam heard a woman crying, so he said: “Why are you crying? Do not cry, the angels are continuing to shade him” ”.
Among all the dwellers of Paradise , only the martyrs would wish to return to this life. This is due to the immense rewards and respect that have been mentioned in the previous Ahadeeth . Anas bin Maalik , may Allaah be pleased with him, narrated that the Prophet sallallaahu ‘alaihi wa sallam said: “Nobody who enters Paradise would ever wish to return to this life again, even if he was to be given the whole world and everything in it – except for a martyr; for he would wish to return and get killed ten times due to the honour that he received (in Paradise).” and in another narration: “For what he finds as virtues of martyrdom.” (Bukhaari & Muslim).
Therefore, it comes as no surprise that these poignant prophetic words had such a great impact on the hearts of the pious chosen generation of the companions of the Prophet sallallaahu ‘alaihi wa sallam . It deeply instilled the concepts of Shahaadah into their hearts along with the fervent wish of achieving this exalted status, so they toiled continuously to achieve it. There are a multitude of stories that demonstrate this, for example: Anas bin Maalik , may Allaah be pleased with him, narrated: “The Prophet sallallaahu ‘alaihi wa sallam took off with his companions and they beat the polytheists in reaching Badr. When the polytheists arrived there, the Prophet sallallaahu ‘alaihi wa sallam said: “None of you should do anything until I proceed.” Then, when the disbelievers came closer to them, the Prophet sallallaahu ‘alaihi wa sallam said: “Rise to Paradise , which is as wide as the distance between the heavens and the earth.” ‘Umayr Ibn Al-Hamaam, may Allaah be pleased with him, asked: ‘O Messenger of Allaah, is it really as wide than the heavens and earth?’ He sallallaahu ‘alaihi wa sallam replied: “Yes.” Thereupon ‘Umayr said: ‘Bakh Bakh.’ (an expression reflecting astonishment). The Prophet sallallaahu ‘alaihi wa sallam asked: “What made you say Bakh Bakh?” He said: ‘Nothing, except the desire to be of its dwellers.’ The Prophet sallallaahu ‘alaihi wa sallam said: “You will be of its people.” Then ‘Umayr, may Allah be pleased with him, took out some dates which he had in his arrow pouch and started eating them, then he stopped and said to himself: ‘Indeed it would a too long a life for me if I were to live long enough to finish eating these dates’ - then he threw them away and fought until he was killed.”
Just look at how this companion viewed the few moments needed for eating dates as being too long a time to live! The words of people like these at the time of their martyrdom were as powerful as earthquakes, so much so that in some cases, words like these resulted in their enemies embracing Islaam such as in the following narration:
Haraam Ibn Malhaan , may Allaah be pleased with him, was one of a group of companions of the Prophet sallallaahu ‘alaihi wa sallam who had memorised the Qur’aan and were experts in it. The Prophet sallallaahu ‘alaihi wa sallam dispatched seventy of this group to inform a group of polytheist tribes about Islaam and recite the Qur’aan to them. However the tribes of Ra’l and Dhikwaan from among these polytheist tribes betrayed and slaughtered the whole group of companions near a well called Ma’oonah . As Haraam , may Allaah be pleased with him, was being killed, he screamed in front of his killer: “I swear by the Lord of Al-Ka’bah that I won!” After this, his killer went about asking people what these words meant (i.e., that Haraam had won) until he was told that what Haraam , may Allaah be pleased with him, meant was that he had attained martyrdom. Due to this, the killer embraced Islaam. This narration was mentioned in the book of Bukhaari .
Some of the companions of the Prophet sallallaahu ‘alaihi wa sallam would smell the scent of Paradise and it would make them unable to control their desire to fight strongly and valiantly to the death. Anas Ibn Maalik , may Allaah be pleased with him, said: “My uncle Anas Ibn An-Nadhr, may Allaah be pleased with him, missed the battle of Badr, so he said to the Prophet sallallaahu ‘alaihi wa sallam: ‘O messenger of Allaah, I missed the first battle that you fought against the polytheists, but if Allaah allows me to participate in the next one, then He will see what I can do.’ Then, after the day of the battle of Uhud when the some Muslims retreated he went forth saying: ‘O Allaah I seek your forgiveness for what they have done (i.e., the Muslims for retreating) and I disassociate myself from what those have done (i.e., the polytheists for killing the Muslims)’, as he continued going forth, he came across Sa’d Ibn Mu’aadh, may Allaah be pleased with him, and said: ‘O Sa’d! I swear by the Lord of the tribe of An-Nadhr, it is Paradise (i.e., the reward for martyrdom). I can smell its fragrance close to Uhud.’” After the battle, S a’d Ibn Mu’aadh told the Prophet sallallaahu ‘alaihi wa sallam: “I swear By Allaah, on that day I could not perform as he did.” Anas Ibn Maalik, may Allaah be pleased with him, continued: “(After the battle) we found more than eighty gashes on his (i.e., Anas Ibn An-Nadhr’s) body which were the result of swords, arrows and spears. In fact, the polytheists had mutilated his body so much that nobody could recognise who it was, except his sister, who identified him from his fingers.” (Bukhaari & Muslim).
Here is another narration, one of a Bedouin whose sincere wish for martyrdom was granted: Shaddaad Ibn Al-Haad , may Allaah be pleased with him, narrated: “A Bedouin came to the Prophet sallallaahu ‘alaihi wa sallam, accepted Islaam and said: ‘I wish to migrate (to Madeenah)’. So the Prophet sallallaahu ‘alaihi wa sallam asked some of his companions to take care of him. Then after a battle, the Muslims had gained some booty so the Prophet sallallaahu ‘alaihi wa sallam divided it and gave the Bedouin’s share to some of his companions to look after, as the Bedouin was still at the rearguard. When the Bedouin returned, they gave him his share, so he asked them: ‘What is this?’ they replied: ‘It is your share from the booty which the Prophet sallallaahu ‘alaihi wa sallam gave us to hold on to for you.’ So the Bedouin took the booty and went to the Prophet sallallaahu ‘alaihi wa sallam and asked: ‘What is this?’ The Prophet sallallaahu ‘alaihi wa sallam replied: “Your share of the booty.” The Bedouin said: ‘This is not why I believe in you and follow you; rather, I follow you so that I can get shot by an arrow right here, (and then he pointed to his throat) then die and enter Paradise .’ The Prophet sallallaahu ‘alaihi wa sallam said: “If you are sincere then Allaah will grant you your wish.” After a short while, fighting resumed and the Bedouins body was brought to the Prophet sallallaahu ‘alaihi wa sallam with an arrow in his throat at exactly the spot where he had pointed to the Prophet sallallaahu ‘alaihi wa sallam. Thereupon The Prophet sallallaahu ‘alaihi wa sallam said: “He was sincere so Allaah granted him his wish.” Then using his own garment, the Prophet sallallaahu ‘alaihi wa sallam shrouded the Bedouin, prayed the funeral prayer over him and was heard by his companions to say during the prayer: “O Allaah! This is Your slave who migrated for Your sake and was killed as a martyr – and I testify to this” . Which testimony could ever be more honourable, sincere and truthful than this great one given by the Prophet sallallaahu ‘alaihi wa sallam ?
There are abundant examples from the lives of the companions of Prophet sallallaahu ‘alaihi wa sallam which illustrate their burning desire to achieve martyrdom – and what a noble objective this is!
There are one billion Muslims in the world. If they are all compelled by their religion to kill all of mankind, why aren't there A LOT more killings? You are interpreting Islamic scripture in a way that suits your purposes (as do perhaps the jihadists themselves). You do not acknowledge the Islamic scholarship that rejects this view. You give part of one side of the story and use it to make a blanket condemnation of the entire religion.
Again what muslims have I displayed a bigoted atitude[sic] toward.
Here's where you apparently think you're cute by claiming you haven't shown animus to any Muslim individual while smearing the entire world population of them. You're attempts at sophistry are as transparent and clumsy as your attempts to justify your bigotry.
Here's where you apparently think you're cute by claiming you haven't shown animus to any Muslim individual
If I had done what you are claiming, you could source it. But you can not source it. Meaning you are imagining it. Things only imagined are often times deeded delusional.
Source?
soph·ist·ry
Muslims are human beings. Islam is a set of codified ideas. Purposely confusing the two, is an argument of sophistry.
Please source me, using sophistry as it is defined in the dictionary.As I have sourced you attempting the use of sophistry in the argument. See above.
Accusations without any sourced examples, or any proof in support of said accusation, are without merit and are therefore meaningless. Meaningless, like every comment you have posted in this article.They are only expressions of your utter frustration.
Sophistry: the use of reasoning or arguments that sound correct but are actually false
Yes and here are a few example by you:
The idea of Abrahamic religions is one such nonsensical idea.
There is the religion of Abraham (Judaism) and that is it.
Here the sophism is the substitution of what you think the term "Abrahamic" (apparently that it means the three religions so described are the same) when all it really means is that all three religions accept the OT as the origin of its faith to one degree or another. You can personally disagree with that definition but you can't change it for your the purpose of your argument and that's where your aspersions and falsehoods come in and you requested sourcing and here it is:
It, the same G*d myth is killing Jews, and Christians, as liberals, and progressive mindlessly mouth the dogma of Islam as if it is a secular reality.
This "myth" you've created to make the aspersions isn't the reason that there's animosity between Islam and Christianity and Jews. It's history and it's long. Christians and Moslems killing each other over territory and faith goes back nearly a thousand years. Christians killing Jews just because they're Jews goes back even longer. Furthermore, the idea of the "Abrahamic religions" has nothing to do with politics (except the twisted framework you're offering us) but you need to try to make the sophistic argument to link "progressivism" and "Islam" (it's so preposterous that I almost can't type this from suppressing laughter while I do it). There is nothing at all "progressive" about Islam. But that's also true for branches of Christianity and Judaism. Your brand of extreme fundamentalist conservative Christianity is much more akin to Islam than it is to anything political progressives stand for. Just look at the retributionism of both: very pro-death penalty; very rigid about the roles of women; aggressively anti-homosexual and both are fond of creating governments which would function under its rules.
So, to conclude, your article is really a screed and not a very clever one. You're too transparent to pull of any kind of a convincing case that you've created some kind of "scholarly" work. It's really just a rant.
"Dokein moi" my conviction or I'm certain, is the classic Greek root of dogma.
Your entire post is an example of DOGMA It's meaning is taken from that phrase "a certain conviction", your certain conviction became your dogma.
The unsourced opinions expressed above are your dogma. What you believe means nothing to me. As it is your dogma. Nothing more than dogma. You are only expressing dogmatic beliefs originating with Mohammad, a religious figure. What a good atheist you are?
Why not just copy paste this. This is the religious dogma you just claimed as true.
Atheist? (LOL) What type of atheist repeats back dogmatic religious beliefs as true?
You don't seem to be able to mount any type of intellectual challenge in any way to my sourced contentions. But you sure can regurgitate religious memes, found in holy books, authored by sky fairies.
let me repeat that. You are regurgitating religious memes, found in the holy book of Islam, authored by a sky fairy.
Most atheists don't quote sky fairies. But I see that you do!!!
Will you get upset, when I link this stupid claim every time you mock Christianity for the rest of my time on this site?
I think that will be fun. Everybody can see an atheist quoting the Quran as secular reality. Some funny shit there dude. I don't believe you have thought this out.
Atheists believe religion is a fairytale, made up nonsense. Let us look at nonsense, shall well.
Mickey Mouse is cartoon a fairytale if you will.
If I were to have a claimed revelation from god, and it was revealed to me that Mickey Mouse was the god of the universe and I was its prophet. So I said Walt was neither a cartoonist or an artist. Walt was the first prophet of Mickey, the divine Mouse of Revelation . You would be Ok with this (LOL) look how low you have brought atheists . I mean this is not a good look for you!!!
Could I then claim that Walt Disney was the first disciple of the Mouse? and I am only continuing Walt's good works.
What connects my divine mouse theory to Mr. Disney?
Is there any proof connecting my devine mouse theory to Walt?
Why would anyone in their right mind believe someone who had never met the man, ever?
How about my new disciples start killing those who don't believe my divine mouse claims. Are you ok with that?
God told me ( in direct revelation) that it is true... so, kill the unbelievers!!!
Would it become real if park employees started to believe?
Your non-belief is really unfair. you are oppressing me!!!
What about my religious freedom to believe my nonsense! I have rights, don't I?
I think you may be mouseophobic, that's what I think.
Did you know the mouse is both black and white as well? making this a racial thing, do you hate race-mixing!!!!
All that's another fine example of sophistry. Thanks for adding it to the growing evidence. It's like you've rehearsed this and practiced it time and again. It's cant, bombast and an intellectual dog's breakfast. And those weren't my convictions. Those were simple and accurate historical facts---and I realize actual history is anathema to someone whose trying to invent a new one to fit his political and religious prejudices.
All that's another fine example of sophistry.
Specifically, in diverting the discussion to "dogma" to keep from talking about the falseness of your earlier "stuff."
Someone must have told you you "sound" like a intellectual and you thought is was a compliment.
talking about the falseness of your earlier "stuff.
Because you claim something false does not make it so. I have sourced everything from the primary source material of Islam. See tafsir and Ibn Kathir, and the first biography of the prophet, Ibn Ishaq's Sirat Rasul Allah . You just skip that for the sake of your ridiculous dogma. You pretend that it's not there . Because your dogma is exposed, if you accept it, as there. it is like the six thousand-year-old earth thing, with geology. But now you are doing it.
No matter how you wish to express it,or hide, you are claiming this as factual.
It is religious dogma, that you assert as fact. There are no two way about it. Own it, it is yours. You have repeated it, again and again. Please continue its amusing to me. You make me laugh. Thank you.
Because you claim something false does not make it so.
Well, look who's talking! The trait every sophist (and narcissist) has is to believe he's got everybody fooled and no one sees the con. And you just demonstrated that trait perfectly.
You are good at name calling, any thing else, all you have done is toss insults and say I'm wrong. it is childish, juvenile, infantile. Primitive even. It's like a chimp, tossing feces, nothing more.
Let us examine the primitive response of a frustrated primate, engaged in the act of the feces toss. Remember they are our closest relative in the animal world. This, regardless of your first reaction, is a sign of intelligence. Not a whole lot of intelligence, but rudimentary intelligence nevertheless
In the linked video, a chimpanzee is frustrated by its surroundings. Visibly uncomfortable, enclosed, and literally caged within an environment, not of its making. It lacks the intellectual capacity to alter its situation. The chimp resorts to throwing its feces at the object of its frustration, in an attempt to drive off the offending object or the very idea of the object itself. don't let that be you .
Now you're reduced to flailing. But at least it's more coherent than the crap you put in the article that started this discussion.
What a waste of time! Do you really think anyone is going to sit and read all that nonsense?
You wasted your time posting it.
You wasted administration money with the space it took.
and
you my members time to have to scroll past it.
Do us all a favor;
Try posting comments that can be absorbed and actually have a discernible meaning.
And I wasted my time posting this comment. Because you don't care, you just want to preach.
Facts that are contrary to common leftist delusions, I don't expect to be read by the left, however long and detailed they are. I insist they are made aware of them nevertheless. It is like giving a six thousand-year-old earther a book of geology. Might not do anything, but it's still worth the effort.
Some answers are longer than others. In my column, I decide. Don't like it, don't participate. Martyrdom in Islam is a complex subject. It is real and needs exposure.
Of course, the leftist opinion is the only valid opinion, the only one that matters. That I feel differently is irrelevant. right? I am an unperson, as I don't follow your narrative?(LOL)
Wah...Wah...So many things in the world, so little time to cry about them all. It must be oh so discouraging. You have my pity and sympathy. (no just kidding)
Wasted fractions of a second, did you when you could be scolding someone else for some other behavior or expressed idea, you find objectional.
Do as I believe you should, I'm the voice of the authoritarian left.
I will blame the left for Trump's next term in office. As the only reason, we have a reality Tv star in office now, is that he was more appealing than the candidate of the left. So America is saddled with a clown. America chose a clown over your candidate. What does that say about you chosen candidate?
Telling people to shut up all the time, is a favorite pastime of the left.It's all they have anymore. Sad, really, really, sad.
The point or discernible meaning was that John was as wrong as possible, Observable, sourceable reality stands in stark opposition to his stated beliefs. Islam has elevated martyrdom to a special place in its dogma, and maryters are encouraged.
Yes, so much information is objectional, so many buzz words are used to describe objectional information, Preaching is associated with religion, religion does not serve leftist objectives, so words connected with religion are buzz words of the left, voicing their disapproval. It is not like the left is not all "preachy" and shit (LOL)
The left has heavily trolled this article since I posted it. All the time without much attempt at countering the statements made within. As they are well sourced and factual. Insults are what one finds as opposed to logical counter points. These are signs of an intellectual inability to reasonably counter the facts presented in the article.
Facts that are contrary to common leftist delusions
Then why are you so unable to use any?
Then why are you so unable to use any?
Is it pretend time?
Is it pretend time?
Thank you for mentioning pretend because that's one of the words I was searching for earlier to describe your "work"-- PRETENTIOUS! To the nth degree. It's the work of a poser, a stupendous dilettante.
"I don't expect to be read by the left, ....."
The words of a typical Right Wing bubble dweller. Wants to preach only to those that agree with their position.
Some answers are longer than others.
Yeah, like this one. Long, ...... and then some. I gave up after the first few of lines, seems like you don't know when to stop.
In my column, I decide. Don't like it, don't participate.
Great idea! That's the first time I've seen you say anything that makes sense.
Martyrdom in Islam is a complex subject. It is real and needs exposure.
You might be right about that. Try posting a more concise and direct, (as in 'shorter') article on the issue. Maybe it will be read by more people.
You waste your time posting it.
Of course, the leftist opinion is the only valid opinion,
It has nothing to do with your opinion; THE ARTICLE IS TOO FUCKING LONG! It's an interesting topic, that's what brought me here. But, You wasted your time, because many potential readers, like me, have likely passed up reading the entire article.
That I feel differently is irrelevant. right? I am an unperson, as I don't follow your narrative?
I didn't post a narrative regarding your opinion, or your feelings, I simply said the article is too long;
"What a waste of time! Do you really think anyone is going to sit and read all that nonsense?"
You can respond to this comment if you like, but I'm not going to read it because I'm tired of trying to communicate with you. I think I'll try talking to the wall, I likely will get a better response.
Do you really think anyone is going to sit and read all that nonsense?
I certainly tried but about a third of the way in it was such sophomoric sophistry I decided just to pick paragraphs at random and every sentence was a howler.
Is it fair to say that there are scholars of Islam that do not agree with you?
it is fair to say they dissagree with the consensus of Islamic scholars. I'm am awere of many of them, as I am informed on the subject. (unlike you) Mahmud Muhammad Taha (Sunni) was historically the most prominent in my opinion.
R,ight now Iman Tawhidi a Shia, is shaking up the establishment pretty good. I wish him well
Mahmud Muhammad Taha was, maybe, the best chance at a true, or real reform within Islam itself. He was murdered by the nation of Sudan as an apostate.
He is little publicized, but still an important figure.
Ahmadi muslims are a peacfull sort as well. As far as I know they are not resposible for any terrorist activity at all, ever.
They are different of course, it's a very important difference. Reading an Ahmadi Quran makes it apparent.
They are often times sourced for the peaceful nature of Islam. When they represent a small sect in the overall numbers of the faith.
There is one major theme missing however. Only one, and it seems to disqualify them from the "Muslim" club for the 'purists" of the faith. A rejection of armed jihad in the way of allah.
The only Muslim group that has come to this conclusion are Ahmadi Muslims, whose founder Mirza Ghulam Ahmad in the nineteenth century had the wisdom to declare:
The "Ummah" is said to be made up from the entire community of believers, this community in the year 1974 came together and arrived at the conclusion that Ahmadi's were not Muslims. It was only after this decree, issued by the "Ummah", that the legal and extrajudicial systemic repression of Ahmadis started in earnest.
Ahmadiyya Muslims believe that they are a continuation of the Rashidun (rightly guided) caliphate.
Malaysia is considered a moderate Sunni nation.
Indonesia is considered a moderate Sunni nation.
Kyrgyzstan is considered a moderate nation
There are many other nations John, Iran, Sudan, and Saudi Arabia, quickly come to mind, that the Ahmadi Muslim community is persecuted in. They are persecuted because they have regected armed jihad.
Al-Azhar university got a fatwa out against them, I can probably source it . if I remember correctly it called them Kafirs. A derogatory term used by theocratic Muslims to infer a spiritual impurity. (najas)
Now it seems you're just in "cut-and-paste" mode which is definitely a step up in the quality of your offerings from abysmal to pedestrian.
And there it is...the projection. No rightwing diatribe is complete without it.
"I am neither pro or anti Muslim, or pro or anti any other religion."
You may not be "pro Muslim" but you zealously defend them. Do you defend and respect Ayaan HIrsi Ali, Salmann Rushdie, Iman Tawhidi a Shia, Dr. Jasser? or do you consider them apostates who deserve fatwas calling for their death due to purported blasphemy?
If you were a Christian in Egypt or Pakistan, or a Yazdi in the Middle East you might feel differently.
You may not be "pro Muslim" but you zealously defend them.
While you and your side attack the entire world population of Muslims the nearly a billion peaceful ones with maybe at most a few hundred thousand extreme and violent ones. That is bigotry writ large and when peaceful, law-abiding Muslims around the world keep hearing these blanket aspersions on them and their religion (from people who really shouldn't be throwing stones) how do you think that makes them feel? Like really helping us out with the terrorist problems we have or maybe just not being that eager to help? Which is it?
"While you and your side attack the entire world population of Muslims..."
HOW MANY FUCKING TIMES DO I HAVE TO PROVE THAT I ONLY CRITICIZE EXTREMISTS OF ALL RELIGIONS AND POLITICS FOR YOU TO UNDERSTAND? I'm getting sick and tired of having to repeat and repeat and repeat that there are Muslims I consider to be heroes (names I mentioned in an earlier comment), that I have taught Muslim students English and met their parents and owners of restaurants where I eat who are among the gentlest, most peaceful people I have ever met in my life.
Any criticism I have had has been for those hundreds of thousands which you yourself identify as extremists, but I will add to them the Imans who preach hatred and the anti-Semites that lurk among the majority, and for THAT you can be critical. And yes, I am concerned about the "creeping caliphate". I believe that when you move to a modern western society you don't try to change it to your own beliefs and customs - and if that, in your mind, makes you believe that I attack the whole world of Muslims, then it is YOU who has a problem, not me.
"Enoch, why are you praising an obviously anti-Muslim article?"
Although I'm sure Enoch is capable of defending his comment, I would like to point out that it is no surprise to me that an article that criticizes a religion that relies upon a Q'oran that calls for the murder or subjugation of Jews, (if not ALL infidels) and some pretty good evidence in the world that there are a lot of Muslims who take that seriously, to the extent of carrying out that direction, that Enoch would not disagree with it.
Were they ALL good Muslims who celebrated with distribution of candy the destruction of the Twin Towers, or any other slaughter carried out by their brethren?
I had planned to avoid weighing on the massively false and self-serving nature and basis of this "article" (i.e., POS) to try a lighter touch. But even that offended the sensitivities of the bible thumpers (doesn't everything, though). But now I feel free to point out just what a mass of historical and religious lies this pile of garbage is. The OT is rife with stories of Jews slaughtering entire populations because "G*d" told them it was okey dokey. And the christians.....just about turned every body of water and patch of soil on this planet red with blood spilled by their killing sprees over the centuries. Even today, these devout "followers" of Jesus are usually the loudest calling for mass murder and applauding every time one of our bombs is dropped causing mass civilian casualties. All religious are nonsense to me but the ones which preach peace and make war* are the most obscene.
I.e., all of the abrahamic religions.
The OT is rife with stories of Jews slaughtering entire populations because "G*d" told them it was okey dokey.
Got to love the science denying left. Are you a biblical literalist? It would be a funny thing to be, for a "so called" atheist.
The science of modern archaeology says it never happened anyway, it just did not.Dates do not a line.
Care to tell me your theological impressions of Johah and the whale? (LOL)
The mass killing.... they were most likely, telling stories about how fucking bad ass their ancestors were, spoken while sitting around the campfire at night. That is what the science of archaeology and secular reality supports. Perhaps one day you will embrace them.
Got to love the science denying left.
The Left denies science? Seems like you've got your identities a little fucked up here kpr.
The Left denies science?
Is there, scientifically, a genetic difference between men and women? Clear and concise? Unequivocal?
Can a male skeleton be identified as male, thousands of years after discovery? If so why?
Can a female skeleton be identified as female, thousands of years after discovery? If so why?
Is an eight month old fetus, a human?
If 97% percent of climate scientists believe in global warming, That is 97% percent out of 100.
Provide the list of 100% of climate scientists.
Reality can be sourced, it is tangbile.
Delusions, dogma, politically produced propaganda, are illusionary, and as such, can not be sourced when actually pressed for tangible evidence.
WTF are you blathering on about now?
Is there, scientifically, a genetic difference between men and women? Clear and concise? Unequivocal?
Any scientist will tell you that there is nothing clear, concise and unequivocal in scientific studies. "A very high degree of likelihood", is the most you will get out of most of them.
Can a male skeleton be identified as male, thousands of years after discovery? If so why?
Can a female skeleton be identified as female, thousands of years after discovery? If so why?
I suppose you mean 'thousands of years old', not 'after discovery'. I doubt we have many records of studies that were done thousands of years ago. (Unless it's a trick question )
Assuming the former, it depends on how much of the skeleton was found. A female skeleton has a pelvic that is different than that of a male because they allow more room for giving birth.
Is an eight month old fetus, a human?
Another trick question? If the fetus is in the womb of a human female, it is a human fetus.
However, to get to what I think you mean by the question, some people do not think a fetus is a Human Being until after it is born. Others think it is a Human Being immediately upon conception.
If 97% percent of climate scientists believe in global warming, That is 97% percent out of 100.
97% is 97% of however many climate scientist are being considered. Anyway, I'm not so sure 97% is an accurate estimate of how many climate scientist support the warming theory.
Provide the list of 100% of climate scientists.
What is a 100% climate scientist?
Reality can be sourced, it is tangbile.
Delusions, dogma, politically produced propaganda, are illusionary, and as such, can not be sourced when actually pressed for tangible evidence.
That is a prosperous statement. There are hundreds, actually thousands of studies that provide evidence the 7 billion people that live on this planet, using fossil fuel to provide most of their energy, have had, and are now causing erratic changes in the atmosphere of the planet.
There is a list of scientist on both sides of the debate listed in this Wikipedia article that includes;
Scientists questioning the accuracy of IPCC climate projections
Scientists arguing that global warming is primarily caused by natural processes
Scientists arguing that the cause of global warming is unknown
But the climate change issue is an entirely different debate that does not belong on this thread.
If you want to go there, post an article describing your allusions and I'll provide you with much evidence as strong as science allows, supporting the 7 billion people we live with on this planet with are causing a negative effect on the atmosphere.
The Left denies science?
Like rust, rightwing projection never sleeps.
Are you a biblical literalist? It would be a funny thing to be, for a "so called" atheist.
You don't accept the bible as the word of god? That's funny for a "so-called" believer. If you don't want to believe in the biblical stories of conquest, that's okay by me. We can start and finish with what Israel has perpetrated on the Palestinian people over the past 70 years.
You don't accept the bible as the word of god?
A very good example of the "Dunning Kruger effect", those with the least knowledge of a subject often believe that they are the most informed.
That's funny for a "so-called" believer.
Had you bothered to read the article that you are criticizing, you might have noticed this.
As a Pagan, unless things are soon to change, I hate to tell you, what I see.
"Merry Black" Danann, dancing with Shiva, and "heaven" help us if they invite Kali.( Kalki, the 10th and final avatar of the Hindu God Vishnu)
I've never read a Bible in my life. I have what little insight that I have on it, from Charlton Heston movies.(LOL)
I don't know what to say. I know Arheist's stance on everything. "claim to be Christian" and on and on relentlessly. Same song, second verse......let's hum. Man, just give it up!
We got it....you don't care for Christians. We got it......you hate Christians. We got it......You hate yourself.
Man, oh man.
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And, you care take yours and shove it up yours!
And, you care[sic] take yours and shove it up yours!
Oh, "care" I? I imagine you were fighting off the tears as you typed that.
I don't know what to say.
Then you went on and said a bunch of things.
You should have gone with your first instinct and said nothing.
Awww you haz a sad because you can't get away with the stinking sanctimony with me.
Wow ! Are there ever going to be a lot of CoC violations posted on THIS article.