Liberals Wrote the Book on Sexual Immorality
Perhaps the most guarded tenet of all of modern liberalism is the idea that people should be able to do whatever they wish in the sexual realm. Whether killing children in the womb; redefining the oldest institution in the history of humanity; fighting for the "right" of men to use women's restrooms – and for women to cheat at sports, and for men to take trophies from women – celebrating the sexualization of children; everything else in the perverse LGBT agenda; and so on, much of what modern liberals hold dear hinges on sexual hedonism.
Thus, as others have already well noted, the sex scandals that have rocked Hollywood and Washington, D.C. are some of the least shocking things to come across the news wire since learning that Barry Bonds, Mark McGwire, Sammy Sosa, et al. bloated their baseball stats with the aid of performance-enhancing drugs. (You don't go from this to this without a little something extra in your milk.)
In other words, seeing media reports that reveal that many Hollywood and D.C. liberals are sexual deviants is like a 60 Minutes story that reveals that fat men like fried chicken. But hey, at least in large part, the liberal perverts in politics and entertainment are not hypocrites. They're only practicing what they preach. And preach they do.
In spite of notions to the contrary, liberalism is obsessed with sex. Of course, most liberals would have us believe that this is the case with conservatives, especially Christian conservatives. Yet it is the politics and policies of liberalism that have forced Americans to debate what was once widely rejected as immoral and even unimaginable.
Led almost exclusively by those corrupted by a liberal worldview, for decades, the entertainment industry – whether big screen, small screen, print, or internet media – has saturated American culture with sexual immorality. Acts of "mere" sexual harassment have long ranked extremely low on the scale of what is sexually outrageous in the entertainment industry.
On American screens, tales of men chasing women for nothing more than sex have garnered hundreds of millions of laughs and been used to titillate generations of young and old men alike. Additionally, what modern action or drama film or television series is devoid of depicting what C.S. Lewis bemoaned as "four bare legs in a bed"? These days, bare legs alarm almost no one. Many supposed "mainstream" Hollywood productions are now filled with graphic nudity and sex – what used to be called "pornography."
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Adultery, fornication, pornography, prostitution, homosexuality, and virtually every other example sexual immorality imaginable have long been promoted and celebrated by the modern left. Along with the entertainment, news, and political arenas, schools, corporations, and even churches are filled with, and being led by, those who are dangerously, and often tragically, sexually deceived. Thus, if not directly debasing themselves by being personally involved in these wicked sexual activities, blind to the notion that some things don't even deserve a debate, millions of Americans have at least been misled into thinking that such behavior must be "tolerated."
Tragically, today's liberals are so desperate to rid the world of anyone and anything that contradicts liberal dogma on sex that they will tolerate almost anything except even a hint of Christian teaching on sexual morality. Demonstrating the fallacy that is today's "tolerance," liberals want their opponents to just shut up when it comes to sex. (No doubt this was much of the motivation behind the attacks on Roy Moore.)
Refusing to remain silent themselves – and because they've made a god of government – liberals are looking to make political hay out of the #MeToo meme. Far from wanting to reform what their worldview has wrought, liberals are hoping to further purge politics and the culture of those who stand opposed to progressive perversions.
As they look to lead as much of the country as possible to embrace the "values" of Sodom and Gomorrah, in addition to silencing their moral enemies, many liberals also want revenge. Hence the war on Christians – and those like-minded – and the war on morality. Along with the threat of fines and even jail time, Christians brave enough to oppose the hedonistic agenda of the modern left face the loss of their jobs and businesses.
With little thought to the illogic and hypocrisy behind their helter-skelter approach to sexual morality, the liberal media have been predictably sloppy. Before the #MeToo anti-sexual harassment meme caught on, liberals were lecturing us on the so-called "rape culture" allegedly prevalent in America. Of course, today's liberals are almost as qualified to instruct us on a rape culture as they are on sexual harassment.
When magazines devoted to promoting pornography, prostitution, and the hook-up culture decided to "shine the light" on the supposed college campus rape culture, no one should have been surprised at the disastrous outcome. And don't be surprised to see similar results as liberals in the media rush to smear conservatives – particularly politicians – for "sexual misconduct."
Real glee sets in among the liberal media when they get to report on conservatives – especially Christian conservatives – who've been caught with their pants down. Of course, liberals in the news media vigorously hunt down these stories (because such stories are often very hard to find) while often ignoring the immoral – and often illegal – dalliances of their like-minded friends and cohorts in politics, entertainment, and the information media.
Democrat politics and Hollywood "values" – aided and abetted by like-minded news media propagandists – are a marriage made in hell. As long as their wicked sexual agenda thrives, Americans – and America – will suffer. Something that more and more of us should ponder: Maybe God was right about sex, http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2017/12/liberals_wrote_the_book_on_sexual_immorality.html
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Just because we're not prudes and believe in sex for pleasure (even outside of marriage - GASP) doesn't make us immoral. Just because we think you should be able to marry the person you love is not immoral.
Agreed! I can't stand the supposedly "moral conservatives" immorally oppressing those they deem inferior.
All sex outside of a one man one woman marriage relationship is immoral. All have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God but that is The Standard.
There is no god. Sin in a guilt trip that is accepted by unthinking people as a way to be controlled.
Why? What's so wrong about it?
Nothing like religion to teach people that they're worthless pieces of $#!t and only by kissing god's @ss can they find value.
Nonsense. Sex is sex and it's fun. Love is love. No sin involved in consensual sex.
Is the Bible your primary source of what is moral and immoral?
Can you explain why gay sex is immoral without citing the Bible or your religion?
Ahhahahahahahahaha... Oh... that was serious?
Normal, sentient, intelligent humans.
Maybe if God weren't such a cowardly pussy he would do something about it.
Why is that funny? Do you have a source that isn't skewed by an ancient tome devoted to allegorical tales told to instill fear and loathing of a vengeful God? If you don't have an alternate source and you're using the ancient tales of goat herders and Rabbis, then I'd say you're running well behind the times.
Interesting how your mind went to sex with animals when I said nothing of the sort. This is generally the case with GOPers views on sexuality and consent. If the animal can't complain, it's alright. Kind of like if the woman is a wife, she can't say not or complain either. Talk about lacking in humanity.
Isn't He omnipresent? Therefore I just did!
If you have no genitals, what gender are you? The fact that you call your imagined deity a "He" shows the self projection from ancient man which makes no sense for a God, or do you believe your God has genitals making it a specific gender? If so, why? Why would an all powerful asexual spirit being have genitals? Did it have a lesser powerful spirit being it had to insert its genitals into to create life? And why is this deity often pictured with a beard? Was there need of facial hair for warmth wherever it exists? Just more male projection on their invented deity. God didn't make man in his image, man made God in his.
What are you justifying with that statement? Aren't those the lyrics to a song? How is that relevant to what I said?
Good grief!
He's always throwing that stupid random irrelevant shit around when he's not claiming to be some kind of high level muckity muck worth millions and millions of dollars!
Normal, sentient and intelligent humans don't waste time dwelling on what other humans are doing behind closed doors. In fact, most normal, sentient and intelligent humans generally mind their own business about what other humans are up to because it has absolutely no bearing on their own beings.
It was a simple question. If you can't answer it without falling back on your religion then it has no place in a secular society bound by a constitution that bans the establishment of any specific religion. That means the term "sin" is not a government position, just your personal opinion based on your religious belief. It has no logical, reasonable, secular standing as you've just proved.
At present, your image is of no interest to me. It's your statements that are at issue. They make no sense. Presumably, there's some higher level of reasoning behind them, but I'm sure that I'd have to be inferior to my own level of intellect to comprehend it, so I'm just gonna let it drop.
That will be a rare day. Rare like frog's hair. I'd have to subscribe to some convoluted and archaic thinking to agree with that tripe.
In other words "I just spew random irrelevant nonsensical shit around and think it's funny"
Yes. This is a god for psychopaths who consider themselves perfection personified and are vengeful, violent and vindictive to anyone who won't worship them.
People are good in spite of the Abrahamic religions, not because of them.
Yep; I'm trying to see if they base their opinion on this matter solely on a series of texts written during the Bronze Age. Sorry that this obvious point escaped you.
And it shows.
You really don't need to try hard. You've succeeded so take a vacay
That's ironic coming from someone arguing that there is such a thing as immoral sex
Hey, you said it!
You said it, we didn't.
It's funny how some theists view sex between consenting adults, even those in a committed, loving relationship (or even if they're not) is wrong or immoral. But marriage somehow magically makes it right or moral. Or that sex itself is dirty and to be avoided unless a couple is married. Such archaic thinking.
I'm pretty sure that Jen knows I think any "sex" that's not consensual is immoral. That would include the rape of animals, children, or adults who cannot consent.
And I'm pretty sure I know the meaning of irony. You're the one lamenting about sex on a plane being illegal
Can a goat consent? As soon as adult goats are able to speak and tell you that they love you and want to be with you forever, then and only then can you marry your soul goat. I'm sure many conservatives are disappointed with that viewpoint considering how many apparently like having sex with kids (pun intended), just look at how many voted for Roy Moore.
If I recall correctly wasn't it no fear and color me free - saying that people having sex on a plane - they were being discrete and what's the problem? I forgot that whole nonsense thread - they were saying having sex on a plane in front of everyone was cool - but someone having consensual sex (might have been gay folks) with no one watching was immoral.
So stupid I forgot.
There once was a man from Kildair,
Who was screwing a girl on the stair,
When the banister broke,
He quickened his stroke,
And finished her off in midair...
There is a difference between sin & evil. A sin is nothing more then breaking a local taboo. I know evil when I see it.
Talking about a book written by goat herders isn't bestiality and you know that. You think you're being funny. You're not.
My apologies. I thought you were referring to the Mile High Club.
Silly me! What was I thinking? That would be sinful
Yes! The gay couple showed their buttocks in a temple and they thought the world was coming to an end, but a heterosexual couple having sex on a plane was no big deal.
Now that is the definition of irony....or is it hypocrisy? I get accused of hypocrisy so often you would think I would know by now
That's the one! Yes showing bare asses in front of a temple is worthy of the death penalty - but two inbred scumbags fucking on a plane is cool!
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Let him have his little delusion. He's not hurting anybody
Thank God for that!
I'd say that would be you who has a big surprise coming. Which is basically, nothing. After you're dead, that's it! That's all she wrote!
If the goats could talk, I wonder what they would say about it.
NAAAAHHHHHH
sorry...couldn't help myself
The wise man says: show me the proof!
A Pascal's Wager is a flawed and illogical argument.
Won't you be surprised when you find out Quetzalcoatl is real.
so does that mean if this "fool" saves your life - that they still have done no good ?
There’s nothing illogical about a pascals argument. If I as a believer and somehow turn out wrong nothing will happen to me thereafter and what will I have really lost in life if I am happy in it?
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Of course there is. Pascal's argument is a logical fallacy.
And if you toss your bet behind the wrong deity? If you're happy, good for you. Not everyone needs to believe in a deity to be happy. Kind of sad if one does actually.
we know who the "fool" is - are you telling me that if that "fool" saves your life then he still has done no good (and that it was actually an abominable work to do so) as stated in the scripture ?
What's foolish is buying into scriptural nonsense without question. It's hilarious how some want to believe in some deity for which there is no proof whatsoever. But yet, those who question it or don't buy into it automatically are somehow "fools?" Too funny!
Could that be because it never happened? It is one thing to dislike my opinion, it is something totally different to obsess over me to the point that you post blatant lies about me...
Do not use my moniker in any future fabrications you post... much appreciated!
You did say something along the lines of them being discreet and what's the problem?
Isn't that the truth!
Did I say you were?
Gosh, having a jesus card to throw really does make a difference. Sorry, but getting their souls rinsed every Sunday morning doesn't negate the activities of the lowest form of humans on earth during the previous week. Why are thumpers so obsessed with the sex lives of others, while their general demographic is statistically most likely to engage in sexual activities they claim to oppose on religious grounds. Throw Jesus card.
Obsess over you? Get over yourself dear. Thanks!
I asked you to stop referring to me as a truck driver - I'm not a big rig trucker. I'm not a lesbian (not that there's anything wrong with that). Stop referring to me as a trucker. I'm not a truck driver.
Did jefferson just call you a fool?
crystal
Actually, it might not be a bad idea to pay more attention to Colour.....you would learn a lot of good stuff!
I've always wanted to do it on a train.
No thanks. She thinks I'm obsessed with her!
are you telling me that if that "fool" saves your life then he still has done no good (and that it was actually an abominable work to do so) as stated in the scripture ?
The inference is there.
Unfortunately, your scripture is only loosely believed by less than 33% of the world and is divided into as many as 31,000 different Christian belief groups.
An all forgiving and omnipotent god would not forsake the other 67% of the people he made in his image.
It is not logical.
BF,
Do not refer to Tessylo as anything else but Tessylo. This is an official notice. Any further name calling or referencing her in any other way will be considered a violation.
I don't want to make this meta.. A person has the right to be called what they want to be called and Tessylo has contacted me that she does not want to be called anything but her name, with no other insinuations.
Just a a few words of advice BF.
I agree!
So you just make shit up about another poster?
You are the same one crying to the moderators because someone calls you out of your name but think making stuff up about another poster is cool.
Let me guess a hypocritical proglib?
Actually, he didn't call you a truck driver. He said big rig!
Would you teach me how to do it then? I'm still a virgin.
I am obviously human and yet I refuse to give consent to the church to be controlled with their dogma. Sin only controls a person if you allow it to control you.
The ability to think for yourself will always set you free of the chains the others try to put on you.
I don't hate god because god doesn't exist. The Bible is an unproven claim and not a proof.
I can turn your claim on its head and ask you why you hate Thor, Vishnu, Ra, Posiden, and Ashanti.
Keep your fantasies to yourself.
That is an unproven claim and not a fact because nobody has ever died and returned to live to confirm the existence for either heaven or hell.
The know the problem with you? You, actually, believe the stuff you post. Very sad.
What if the thousands of other faiths are right? There are many different beliefs as to what happens after we die, so far the only one that has any evidence is that our matter goes back into the cycle of life. Matter is energy, and energy can neither be created nor destroyed, it just changes form, so all those who have ever died throughout history have just changed from one form of matter/energy to another. Pascal's wager is flawed in that it's predicated upon there only being two possible outcomes, but the reality is there is an unlimited number of possibilities for what happens after death and millions of differing beliefs as to what one must do to attain them. Maybe the only way to please the flying spaghetti monster was to smear bolognaise on your belly each day in remembrance of his almighty noodles. Maybe the creator of the universe wanted us to once a day walk in a circle patting our heads and rubbing our tummies while chanting "Moo moo moo mooo". I just recommend being less narrow minded and it's less likely you'll be surprised at anything.
Apparently it is not only Trump that has an issue with the truth!
Good luck with yourself.................
You're right, but I go back a long ways with her. I wouldn't have said that to any other woman here. If Butterfies is put off by it, I'll apologize, but I'm pretty sure she knows my heart's in the right place.
How can I know if I'm good when I've never done it??
I believe every word that I write. I don't need your agreement nor do I care.
The Bible is an unproven claim. It isn't a fact and your devout belief doesn't make it a fact.
Quoting scripture of any kind to an atheist in an effort to convert them is always amusing.
All holidays matter.
People with a functional frontal lobe who understand that sin is a creation of the church. Convincing you of original sin allows the church to control you by selling you the cure to a disease that they diagnosed you with.
That are many conservatives who believe that sex with the purpose of recreation and not procreation, even within a marriage is a sin.
We don't hate your definition of god, we just don't believe in it.
What makes you think I worry about it?
Trumpism?
What is "immoral sex?" Sex is sex. What is it about sex that makes it immoral exactly? I've heard of "hot" sex or "crazy" sex. But not "immoral" sex. How is it different than "moral" sex?
Talk about a life less lived.
Do us a favor. Don't hid behind your religion. If you don't like it just say so. And as far as your "standard". After reading the bible in it's entirety, that's not something I'd brag about.
It's kind of pathetic how some folks are so easily controlled by Bronze-age fairy tales and their modern interpretations.
I'd say that people who are obsessed with other people's crotches and sex lives not only are quite dumb but are ethically twisted, not much different than the dimwitted morons at the Westboro Baptist cult.
No, I make it a habit not to comment on other peoples relationships. You're safe.
When you are dead, you don't know you are dead, it's only difficult for the others. It's the same when you are stupid.
Do you imagine that you can fool god by hedging your bets?
"No, I was just making a joke.. Jeez, lighten up!"
Sorry about that Kathleen.
I'm not all bad.
If it's not immoral - you're not doing it right!
Secular progressives deny God so that they can rationalize doing anything they want to do no matter the cost.
There is no hedging. We’re all in when it comes to God and religious belief. The statement was even if we are somehow wrong....which we know we aren’t. In the last days when believers even here are persecuted for our faith, the unbeliever will discover the degree of commitment believers have. Some will be impressed and convert themselves while most will become angry and ever more hateful and up the ante of persecution to the point where everyone alive will have heard the message and no amount of persuasion will change anyone’s mind.
Darn right!
There are all kinds of STD’s out there as a result of promiscuous sexual behavior. Very few if any happen to a man and a woman who are both virgins when they marry and have sexual relations with no other person.
Were you and your wife virgins when you got married?
So much ignorance stuffed into 1 sentence. Amazing.
So much ignorance stuffed into 1 sentence. Amazing.
While I agree, that would be the case, the real problem is, human beings rarely ever eschew their own sexuality in favor of abstinence, no matter what you preach. It's just not inherent in human biology to avoid the urge to mate. It's why we've managed to reproduce in times of catastrophic population declines. You know, like the ice age or famine.
He's preaching again. I might take him a little bit more seriously if he could say that he and his wife didn't even kiss each other before they got married.
Even if they did, I'm going to posit that it was 40 to 50 years ago and in those days, it was often so. Or, as in the case of my own parents, they wed when they got themselves pregnant.
The point is, while the modern world is rife with sexuality in the media and entertainment, most humans are not morally opposed to having relations with a significant other whether they are married to each other or not. I'm not even going to suggest that this is somehow a new development because it's not. Over millennia, chastity or promiscuity has always been a pendulous swing from one extreme to the other. Disease and illegitimate births are rampant throughout history. Pontificating on the issue without looking at the practical and obvious implications is useless. If you want people to behave with restraint, you educate them about the pitfalls of not behaving responsibly. You provide healthy family planning and birth control. Simply waving a Bible around and strenuously condemning sexuality will not end the behavior of human beings. It's just not in their DNA.
As usual, you make your point eloquently
Not at all, we deny your god for the same reasons that you deny all the other gods.
Denying sin and that there is right and wrong is simply a secular humanists way of placing themselves in the place of God and rationalizing whatever feels good do it situational “ethics” regardless of the ultimate costs.
The part I like best about Christian mythology is that the biggest weapon they wield against us heathens is the threat that their sky fairy will torture us......but only after our brain and nervous system have creased to function.
Seems pretty twisted to give fealty to a violent psycho who threatens to torture you, but it's a rather pathetic threat in this case.
They'd probably wonder why the Southern Baptists who controlled the Texas legislature in 1974 made sure that bestiality was legal, and why none of the bible-babbling conservatives who have controlled it since then have made any effort to ban it (at least as long as you own the goat and you do it in private).
All sex of any kind outside of a married male man and his female wife is immoral and adulterous. Even looking upon another and dwelling upon thoughts of lust is considered as if we’d conmitted adultery in our heart/mind.
I would pray for you if I was a prayer...so I'll just feel sad for you
No Perrie said that she was to be referred to by her online name.
STDs can also be prevented by using protection or not engaging in relations with an infected individual. Your point?
So you think your beliefs are right and everyone else's is wrong then? How arrogant! Sorry, but your belief is just that, a belief. And unless you can substantiate your belief with actual facts or prove there's a god, your claim of knowing you're right us utterly meaningless and lacks validity.
The scripture says what it says and no amount of censoring it is going to change its, not my clear meaning.
A broken clock is right 2x a day. The overall works of a life time of a person who overtly denies the existence of God can never be to the ultimate good.
How does marriage make sex go from immoral to moral exactly? They're still the same partners. Do sexual positions change? Does the couple's feelings for each other change? And if the had sex before marriage, do they suddenly go from immoral to moral just because they married?
And guess what, looking at other people is not adulterous. It's evolution. But engaging in relations with others is adulterous. See the difference?
In other words you have no objective ethical standard for your views, you only have the traditions of a superstitious cult.
ah, so you would want someone who doesn't believe in your god to save your life, but in the end you'll still condemn them to Hell as if you are somehow a better person than they are and are more worthy (even if they've done more good works in their life than some of the religious). More of that "Christian Love" i keep hearing about i think.
If your God is so impotent that he can’t do a thing to people like me who openly trash it, then why would anyone be afraid?
If your god existed, it has never been in much of a hurry to bring on Armageddon despite the preaching of the doomsdayers who have existed since the beginning of the Christian cult.
The Earth is 4 billion years old. The dinosaurs ruled for hundreds of millions of years before they were wiped out. Mankind is likely to be around for at least another 50,000 years or maybe a few hundred million years, but at best, we have only a billion years left before the sun boils our oceans.
If there was a god, there would be no such thing as choice.
So pray tell, what happens to all of the children and those children who have passed ?
Free pass?
I don’t condemn anyone to anywhere. That’s way above my role in the universe. I make no declaration where anyone goes. Only God looks upon a heart. In this case the heart of one who is denying that his/her creator even exists.
Indeed. To some theists, belief in god is the be all end all and nothing else is as important. Good works makes absolutely no difference. Quite sad actually.
Where is this supposed proof of heaven or hell, if you know so much?
There's no evidence for your god either.
That's quite the ignorant and erroneous statement.
Some of us don't need a god or a fear of one to be lawful or good people. Who says were not accountable at all? We're accountable to ourselves, others around us, and society as a whole. That certainly doesn't change just because one believes in a god or not. It's like you think people are incapable of being good without some god watching over our shoulders.
Describe what Jesus was like. How long did he really keep his hair and beard? Or how his resurrection went down. After all, you must have been there too, eh?
How can I possibly deny what logic says doesn't exist? Do I also deny unicorns and leprechauns?
Tell that to Hindus, Pagans and Shinto. The pagan and Hindu religions predate Christianity by possibly 1000 years.
Some of us have as strong moral center and seek to treat others as we want to be treated, and don't need some god to keep us from murdering others. I guess we should be grateful that you believe that there is a god if the fear of god's retribution is the only thing that keeps you from being a mass murderer.
I do even need man's laws to live a moral life because I see myself as part of a very interdependent society and as such have to work together to be the best that I can be. Psychology says that only about 30% of people need laws because the other 70% can learn to self-regulate. If more than 30% of the population regularly break the law then it is a bad law and politicians have only created an enforcement problem.
So you make yourself the ultimate authority on what is moral? And what about others who disagree with your list of what is moral?
BTW it is a complete mis-characterization to state that Christians don't commit murder out of fear of God. When a someone becomes a true Christian they are born again with not only a new spiritual heart, but we are given the indwelling of God Himself through the Holy Spirit. This not only empowers us with the ability resist the temptation to sin, but with the righteous character of Jesus.
"I have been crucified with Christ; it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me; and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself for me." Galatians 2:20
Christians are called to be holy
Therefore gird up the loins of your mind, be sober, and rest your hope fully upon the grace that is to be brought to you at the revelation of Jesus Christ; as obedient children, not conforming yourselves to the former lusts, as in your ignorance; but as He who called you is holy, you also be holy in all your conduct, because it is written, “Be holy, for I am holy.” 1 Peter 1:13-16
And not just holy, but ALL believers are a royal priesthood
Coming to Him as to a living stone, rejected indeed by men, but chosen by God and precious, you also, as living stones, are being built up a spiritual house, a holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ 1 Peter 2:4,5
You are looking for confrontation and violence.. Truly shows what kind of a person you are.
I would only be looking for confrontation and violence if I were talking about a real thing. What I said is akin to saying that I will slay any Ninja Turtle who dares to face my wrath. Bring it on, tooth fairy! When I find the Flying Spaghetti Monster, I will kick its ass too!
You have demonstrated what kind of person you are. The kind that has zero capacity to consider that you could be wrong about your belief in God. That is sad.
I do not decide what is moral by myself. That is done by society as a whole.
Why do you believe that your particular interpretation of the Christian religion gets to decide for me and those of other religions what is moral? In the US chich and state are kept separate so they have the same right to live by their own moral code until their moral code infringes on others rights. I will not be forced to live by your religious moral code or that of any other religion when I have the same rights as you do to live as I choose.
I'd go into a discussion of Jeremy Bentham's utilitarianism theory, but I doubt that you would understand it.
That doesnt apply to me because I know God, Jesus, Holy Spirit exist
No, you don't.
I question the existence of God sometimes.
See?
Also even if I was wrong, so what?!?!
What a weird thing to say, when you "know God, Jesus, Holy spirit exists".
Atheists don't care what your beliefs are. Keep them to yourself, stop trying to force them into public places, and be content that you have plenty of private churches to express your delusions with other like minded people. Do that, and you will never hear from atheists again.
So consenting adults having sex behind their own doors, affects you?
I think you need a new hobby
The Golden Rule should take care of it all; there is no act of love or human kindness that could not be extended just as well in the total absence of organized religion, IMO a bastardization of the God so manifest in Nature.
The inherent insecurity of Reality is not mitigated by any deity ... cries from Jews in Auschwitz or all humans in imminent peril got no response to prayers of “save our innocent souls.”
Pay-to-pray membership in the segregated man-made building of your dogmatic preference is, by no coincidence, a prime target of pandering legislators; it’s a divider and conquerer’s ideal place to appeal to irrational notions of cause and effect.
No philosophical theory is perfect but utilitarianism is better than most. What do you believe are the downfalls of Bentham's idea?
You just don't get it. There is the exact same emprical evidence for god existing as there is for unicorns and leprechauns existing, despite what you may have been convinced.
I and other atheists will take part in these discussions of religion as long as religion plays a role in public life and is intertwined in government. The fact that I am a logican and these discussions are prime fodder for exercising my logical skills should also be noted. I actually like your many convoluted fallacies because it forces me to think and sharpen my ability to form replies.
I am not taking part in these discussions to make fun or or to hurt anyone.
Yes, you usually do fail with me. Especially since you dodged my question.
And the Harry Potter books is evidence Harry defeated Lord Voldemort. Your bible is about as valid as the Harry Potter books. But mocowgirl has actual science, which trumps your bible. As you say, "Dont like it? Tough teets."
It's not just about what others think. It's also about what you think. If you think you're not accountable for anything, then religion isn't going to change that ort make a difference. Some of us actually recognize accountability and are capable of holding ourselves accountable without religion.
That's right, it doesn't.
So you're incapable of being or doing good without a god? You would be out lying, stealing, killing, ect. without a god/religion? That sounds like a character flaw on your part.
Clearly logic is over your head.
That's nice. Prove it! While you're at it, prove there's a god!
Nope, just logical analysis. Not my problem if you don't get it!
But nowhere near as entertaining or coherent
Hardly. Or does being an atheists prohibit an atheist from talking about a god? or how silly the concept is?
Not at all. If that's what you take out of it, then that's your interpretation and problem.
If atheists believed in a god, they wouldn't be atheists. And I don't have to "try" to not believe in the slightest. It's quite simple actually. It seems you're incapable of understanding that some people simply don't believe in any god/s.
Sure, just as soon as you prove there's a god.
Eyewitness accounts is among the most unreliable of evidence and sources. Not to mention subjective and anecdotal. Simply accepting eyewitness accounts or claims without question or any empirical evidence is the definition of gullible.
It's quite arrogant to proclaim other religions gods don't exist but yours does. You're essentially saying all other religions or beliefs that don't share your god is wrong. What makes your belief/religion more valid than any other?
And you keep proving my point.
Basic human decency. It is a shame if some people are good to others only because they fear fire and brimstone in an afterlife. Further, what a sad way to conduct one's life - catering to the rules that ancient men wrote in a book and declared to be the will of the most supreme possible entity.
For example: Deuteronomy 22:5
In fact just read Deuteronomy 22 and let your mind step back and observe the trivial bullshit that ostensibly the most supreme entity of all cares about. Belief that the Bible is divine defies critical thinking IMO.
You repeat this hypothesis quite often - that atheists actually believe in a god.
People do not talk about leprechauns and unicorns because NOBODY believes they exist and NOBODY is conducting the matters of their life -and acting in ways the influence other lives- based upon the belief in leprechauns and unicorns. However, if someone were to write an article professing the existence of leprechauns, unicorns, Zeus, etc. I am confident those beliefs will be challenged.
It really is that simple. Atheists challenge belief in gods because a) they see no rational reason to believe in specific gods with attributes and stories and b) others DO believe in gods defined by ancient men with pens.
It is bizarre IMO. Seems to me it is a form of attempted taunting - trying to jab at atheists by claiming atheists really do believe in a god but are afraid to admit it. That is a magnificent example of twisted logic.
Akin to addressing a 14 year old with: 'you really do believe in Santa Claus but are afraid to admit it'.
I think you are just a closet Hindu. Come on, you know that Brahma (and other like Allah) exist but are denying it (even behaving as a gnostic atheist in this regard by stating with certainty they do not exist).
Seriously, how can you possibly not understand atheism (not being convinced a god exists) when you (in your ridicule of atheism) declare that you KNOW that all gods other than your god do not exist? You do not even moderate your position to 'not convinced these gods exist' (agnostic atheism) - you go for full bore irrational atheism (gnostic atheism) and declare certainty.
And failing to find a flaw???
Actually other religious histories are replete with recorded witness accounts and even interactions with their gods. Zeus, Athena, Jupiter, Diana, Odin, Nanna, Brahma, Shiva, Ra, Isis, etc, really the evidence of gods and goddesses who have communicated with us is far more extensive than what is contained in the bible
It really all is quite entertaining as well as interesting if you're into that sort of thing
I just illustrated the absurdity of your own logic and in response you pretend to miss the point.
If a group of Muslims were on this forum in the same numbers as Christians you would be faced with myriad claims of Islam. One of these claims, by the way, is that Jesus was simply a mortal man - a prophet - but nothing more. Another is that Islam is the final religion - the correction of Christianity.
Let discussions like these come forth along with the support for Sharia in the USA. How would Shepboy respond to such affronts on his faith (and threats on / criticism of his lifestyle)? Would he remain silent because he does not believe in Allah or would he engage in debate (and unfortunately at times personal insults) as he does with agnostic atheists?
Claim that you would be a passive wallflower and remain silent because you KNOW Allah does not exist.
We will all take you at your word on that.
Don't try to debate by feigning obtuseness - it is a cheap tactic and most people see right through it.
Here is a paraphrase: the reason skeptics talk about belief in God is because people ACTUALLY DO hold the belief. If people believed in Leprechauns then skeptics (including you) would challenge the belief. Since nobody seems to believe in Leprechauns challenging the belief has no purpose or meaning.
See?
The historical records provide ample evidence that mortal men such as Alexander the Great lived. One of Alexander's claims, however, is that he was the offspring of a god. There is no evidence of this claim and I am pretty sure nobody buys it.
Contrast now the evidence required to hold that mortal men in the past lived with the claim of exploits by the most supreme entity possible. The evidence required to corroborate the most extreme claim (that of being the creator of everything) is just a tad more than that required to be reasonably convinced that mortal human beings like Alexander the Great existed.
How about this.. NO !!! I will as well as other Christians will do exactly what the Bible tells us to do and that is to spread the Gospel to all the corners of the earth.. Dont like it? Tough, I have the First Amendment on my side to protect it.
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But not the evidence? That's odd.
oh you absolutely do - you may not personally condemn anyone but you are a participant and advocate of a system that does, you just abdicate personal responsibility for it and relegate it to an unverified magical mystical being so you don't have to worry about that sticky sin, right ?
so you are a participant and advocate for a system (along with spreading its message in hopes of recruitment to perpetuate that system further) that states you are better than others (or held in higher regard) who save your life because those others, no matter if they've done better works in life than you or anyone else, don't believe in your system so you will expect to be saved by those people and simultaneously condemn them to a fate worse than yourself. must be more of that "Christian Love" i keep hearing about... very interesting...
if you can be hurt by those who don't believe when they question your belief or if that makes your "faith" stumble - then you are obviously not full of faith nor do you fully believe. If you did - then those who question or attack your faith wouldn't bother you in the least since you have full faith in your beliefs and wouldn't care what those who don't believe think of your faith, yet you are still here trying to defend your belief so you don't get hurt or stumble... Quite sad actually.
Like the seed says: secular progressive liberals are writing the book here on sexual immorality.
You didn't answer my questions or explain precisely what makes sex "immoral," or how marriage magically makes sex moral.
Oh I'm sorry, you had a point?
How is talking about something arrogant exactly?
Because you assume other things like other religions gods don't exist while proclaiming your god to be the only "true" one or real. Yes, that is arrogance!
Let's see: you make preposterous (and arrogant) claims with no evidence or proof to support them and I challenge any such claims and don't accept them, no questions asked.
What difference does it make?
That's your prerogative.
How so? Is belief in something required to talk about it? I don't believe in the Greek pantheon but I find Greek mythology an interesting subject of discussion.
I got that impression too.
Our nation and the principles of individual liberty are premised upon a moral character shaped by the citizens following Christ and the teachings of the Bible.
We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. Avarice, ambition, revenge, or gallantry, would break the strongest cords of our Constitution as a whale goes through a net. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other. - John Adams, Address to the Military, October 11, 1798
“Providence has given to our people the choice of their rulers, and it is the duty as well as the privilege and interest of our Christian nation to select and prefer Christians for their rulers." - 1 st Chief Justice of the Supreme Court John Jay, "The Correspondence and Public Papers of John Jay", Henry P. Johnston, ed. (NY: Burt Franklin, 1970), Vol. IV, p. 393, October 12, 1816
"Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity, religion and morality are indispensable supports. In vain would that man claim the tribute of patriotism who should labor to subvert these great pillars of human happiness, these firmest props of the duties of man and citizens. The mere politician, equally with the pious man, ought to respect and to cherish them. A volume could not trace all their connexions with private and public felicity. Let it simply be asked, Where is the security for property, for reputation, for life, if the sense of religious obligation desert the oaths, which are the instruments of investigation in Courts of Justice? And let us with caution indulge the supposition that morality can be maintained without religion. Whatever may be conceded to the influence of refined education on minds of peculiar structure, reason and experience both forbid us to expect that national morality can prevail in exclusion of religious principle. It is substantially true, that virtue or morality is a necessary spring of popular government. The rule, indeed, extends with more or less force to every species of free government. Who, that is a sincere friend to it, can look with indifference upon attempts to shake the foundation of the fabric?" -
George Washington's Farewell Address, September 19, 1796
President Harry Truman was not only proudly proclaiming his faith, but speaking prophetically in this 1950 speech.
"The fundamental basis of this nation's laws was given to Moses on the Mount. The fundamental basis of our Bill of Rights comes from the teachings we get from Exodus and Saint Matthew, from Isaiah and Saint Paul. I don't think we emphasize that enough these days. If we don't have a proper fundamental moral background, we will finally end up with a totalitarian government which does not believe in rights for anybody except the State!"--President Harry Truman February 15, 1950 Speech at the Department of Justice
"America was born a Christian nation. America was born to exemplify that devotion to the elements of righteousness, which are derived from the revelations of Holy Scriptures. Part of the destiny of Americans lies in their daily perusal of this great book of revelations. That if they would see America free and pure they will make their own spirits free and pure by this baptism of the Holy Spirit." From his famous address: "The Bible and Progress," ~ President Woodrow Wilson, May 7. 1911, Denver, Colorado.
JFK Inaugural Address 1961
For man holds in his mortal hands the power to abolish all forms of human poverty and all forms of human life. And yet the same revolutionary beliefs for which our forebears fought are still at issue around the globe--the belief that the rights of man come not from the generosity of the state but from the hand of God.
"From the time of the Declaration of Independence, the American People were bound by the laws of the gospel of Jesus Christ, which they all acknowledge as the root of their conduct. We all came together to obey the word of God." - John Quincy Adams
The fear will arrive on judgement day. Those who have written the book on sexual immorality will have much to fear.
Of course you can believe whatever you want. You can believe the moon is made out of fucking marshmallows if you want to. You can believe any wildly unprobable and outright idiotic thing you can dream up, but expect to be ridiculed if you go around spouting off your belief in ludicrous fucking nonsense. Capiche?
Isn’t that the truth? Why yes, it is!
In other words, you can't prove it. Duly noted!
So having a discussion or challenging certain assertions is "trolling" to you? interesting.
Is that supposed to be a threat or mean anything to me?
How droll.
If one makes an affirmative claim, then a requirement of proof to support said claim is a reasonable and logical response and expectation. Or do you simply accept anything anyone tells you, no questions asked?
Spare me your melodramatic whining!
They don't have to. It just shows they can't prove anything. They simply lack any credibility and their claims are utterly laughable and without merit as a consequence!
Really, that's your comment? Amid the sexual assault accusations flying around the Democrats, that's what you want to go with?
One person other than Conyers has been accused of sexual harassment. Franken's accuser is a lying bitch - lying about a staged photo. Lying about the encounter that was different than she remembered it. She remembered however she was paid to remember it - lying bitch Tweeden.
Yep. Democrats hold each other accountable while Republicans dance around with their microdicks on display.
OH, I gotta agree with that. They most certainly did. Personally, I think he should have told them all to pound sand. When the GOP has people like Vitter and Sanford in their ranks, why should he quit a job that he does very well?
Don't know who they are and I don't give a fuck.
All you got is Franken and Conyers.
Challenging me to provide my opinion on a senator that actually works for his constituents? That's original. Considering he does fight for his constituents instead of heaping an enormous tax burden on them sounds pretty reasonable. Or maybe the fact he finds tax scams repellent is enough. It won't satisfy GOPers that won't get angry until their "entitlements" are destroyed, but that's their vote in action. It goes against their own best interests, but it's alright because it's the GOP reaming them.
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Liberal being attacked ....... character assassination drone engaged .....
Is it reading comprehension that's the problem? I gave my statements as to why I believe he's doing a good job. It's the same as asking GOPers to provide proof that The Donald is doing a good job being the president. It's all subjective. I think he's a raging nutcase, but others think he's terrific.
Hi Jen..
Hey there... how's my friend today? You behavin'?
Trying not to behave.. lol. all is well. I've missed you.. and a few others... How are you, ready for the holidays?
I am for the most part. Surely just enjoying the coming vacation time. It's going to enable me to be frivolous with the grandkids, so that's always a welcome distraction.
Here's a list of 43 Republican sex scandals that run the gambit from sexual assault accusations to paying millions to keep secret their rape of underage boys. But it's not really a contest, both sides of the aisle have done horrible things, it's not a party thing, it's a politician thing. Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely.
<waves>
that sounds wonderful, I'd love to see mine but they are 500 miles away and all we have is a weekend. but we can send pics and video.. so it'll be mostly ok...
Hi Trout.. good to see ya.. how are things? all ready for Christmas??
meh...I'm a Scrooge. Ever since the kids left home, I don't put up a tree, bake cookies, or basically give a shit.
But all is well. I hope everything is going well for you
ahhh.. ya.. I get that... we just put up a small 4ft tree... and some odds and ends decorations .. not a lot...
but yes, all is well .. health is mostly good and job is steady.,. so not bad...
But hillary said that women wouldnt lie about such things and must be believed all the time!
Oops! Silly me. Like other things she has said about things, she didn't mean that women should always be believed when they accuse liberals onky when they accuse conservatives and Republicans.
Balderdash!
Q: Did Dems hold FDR, JFK, LBJ, Ted Kennedy, Bill Clinton, Obama, and Hillary "accountable" for ANYthing?
A: No.
Merry Christmas.
character? LOL!
Considering the worst thing any of those mentioned did was likely a fatal drunken driving accident for which Ted Kennedy plead guilty to leaving the scene of an accident and was given a sentence of two months in jail, or Bill Clinton getting a consensual BJ in the oval office, I fail to see where you're going with this. Trump has more credible accusers of sexual assault than Bill Clinton ever had, and he was never accused of raping a 13 year old like Trump was or sexually assaulting a 14 year old as Roy Moore was.
More reality, less Daily Kos for you ...... it's Christmas ..... be of good cheer!
Some pesky gnat has been following me around all god damned day. Shoo! Scat! Begone!
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It would help to learn some new adjectives!
Would you help me out dear - learn me some new adjectives thar won't ya?
Denial doesn't make it go away. Your group, you own it.
That has to be the funniest thing I've EVER heard. It's funny as hell that you used Democrat and accountable in the same sentence.
"redefining the oldest institution in the history of humanity;"
Prostitution?
That's a popular but ill-informed misconception. "Currency/payment" has been, and still is, measured in many ways:
Actually it was priests, although I understand your confusion, the two professions are so similar.
Rudyard Kipling was an ordained priest? Imagine that!
I know the piece of shit of an 'article' is referring to marriage - Jasper doesn't seem to understand my joke. Must be a comprehension problem.
still buying that bs? you know that is just a sound bite try the whole conversation...
trump was talking about what he did when girls threw themselves at him
and I have to tell ya...
anytime I have NOT grabbed a girls crotch after she threw herself at me? she got mad at me.
not making that mistake ever again, hell hath no furry like a woman scorned
“Democrat politics and Hollywood "values" – aided and abetted by like-minded news media propagandists – are a marriage made in hell. As long as their wicked sexual agenda thrives, Americans – and America – will suffer. Something that more and more of us should ponder: Maybe God was right about sex”
When one has nowhere to go and all day to get there---------well----------this is it.
“Adultery, fornication, pornography, prostitution, homosexuality, and virtually every other example sexual immorality imaginable have long been promoted and celebrated by the modern left. Along with the entertainment, news, and political arenas, schools, corporations, and even churches are filled with, and being led by, those who are dangerously, and often tragically, sexually deceived. Thus, if not directly debasing themselves by being personally involved in these wicked sexual activities, blind to the notion that some things don't even deserve a debate, millions of Americans have at least been misled into thinking that such behavior must be "tolerated."
Tragically, today's liberals are so desperate to rid the world of anyone and anything that contradicts liberal dogma on sex that they will tolerate almost anything except even a hint of Christian teaching on sexual morality. Demonstrating the fallacy that is today's "tolerance," liberals want their opponents to just shut up when it comes to sex. (No doubt this was much of the motivation behind the attacks on Roy Moore.)
Refusing to remain silent themselves – and because they've made a god of government – liberals are looking to make political hay out of the #MeToo meme. Far from wanting to reform what their worldview has wrought, liberals are hoping to further purge politics and the culture of those who stand opposed to progressive perversions.
As they look to lead as much of the country as possible to embrace the "values" of Sodom and Gomorrah, in addition to silencing their moral enemies, many liberals also want revenge. Hence the war on Christians – and those like-minded – and the war on morality. Along with the threat of fines and even jail time, Christians brave enough to oppose the hedonistic agenda of the modern left face the loss of their jobs and businesses.”
That's a whole lot of nonsense and gobbledygook you crammed in your article and that bit just above SheHateMe2
And that's an understatement.
Did I miss Larry renaming himself again?
Nope. But then, they all sound the same after awhile.
All bible-babblers sound alike.
I like to call them bible humpers.
All of those things done by consenting adults is their business (though I disagree with illegal prostitution where the women are being exploited). Sexually assaulting women, "I don't even wait, I just kiss them... grab them by the pussy", and assaulting girls as young as 14 is illegal, but that didn't stop Republicans voting for their gross representatives who have been credibly accused of such. That's true immorality for you, and none are better than self righteous Republicans for dabbling in the truly despicable. Even one of Republicans beloved house speakers was spending millions in hush money to keep his sexual assault of underage boys a secret. The hypocrisy of Republicans knows no bounds.
And practiced by the regressives, next point.
Not only with gusto, but with repressive regularity. The closets of wingers are chock full of their personal peccadilloes. If they'd just embrace their humanity, they'd experience happiness and joy in life.
GOPers engage in fornication and adultery and homosexuality, even the self-righteous ones. What they don't do is mind their own damn business or stick with worrying about their own souls.
I don't have time to worry about other people and their so-called sins. I don't have enough time or the inclination to worry about my own
that is about as true as you can state it.. and it's espeically the self-righteous one, they are the worst..
I bet nobody here can state truthfully that they never had sex outside of marriage...that's fornication for the uninformed
What souls? They sold them to the Koch's and, Ailes.
That's quite a judgmental, condemning comment to make about millions of Americans who you don't personally know.
someone below didn't read my comment very well
Lucky Charms ?
Lucky Charms involves leprechauns and the various celtic symbols in the cereal, dammit !
You keep you midget obsession to yourself !
How about Cheerios? Then no leprechauns will be in danger
I have to admit - you do make laugh some times with your silly asides.
Says the advocate of a religion based on incest, adultery, and pedophilia.
How are incest, adultery and pedophilia character traits of the left?
Another strawman...I need more lighters
I am the Wicked Witch
make sure you get the water bucket and not the one with the paint thinner
So, evidently Donald Trump, Clarence Thomas, Bill O'Reilly, Roger Ailes, and all those pederast priests were Catholic liberals. Who knew?
Don't forget Cardinal Bernard Law, who protected pedo' priests..
I forgot to check the source. American Stinker. Nuff said.
I thank God that I only have to read one of these putrid thumper articles every day.
Actually, you don't have to read anything.
Broadway the hard way.
Another myopic, hate-piece from one arm of the Joseph Goebbels wing of the administration of Jess Willard.
Are you comparing the "Liberal Plight" from 2010 to present, to the JEWS Plight in the Goebbel era ?
Any time a demographic is assaulted via propaganda TARGETED TO AN ALL TOO WILLING AUDIENCE OF RECEPTIVE HATERS … a "PLIGHT" is first fomented, and historically, sometimes implemented.
No group has sole possession of hate-mongering …
Except for the perennially STUPID!
I know Goebbels, and this "Piece" isn't Goebbel like.
"Liberals" are more Goebbel Like.
In fact....since you like FACTS.....
Goebbels tactic was to PUSH propaganda along with violence at meetings and demonstrations. He was GREAT at planning his speeches ahead of time, even choreographed inflection and gestures into his speeches, in order to be MORE dramatic (sounds like Pelosi and Crying Chuck).
Sound "Liberal" enough for you ?
If Not.....try this little FACT........
.......and this is a fun FACT....... He loved relationships with many women. He was quick to fall in love, but tired of relationships and moved on to someone new. He worried also about how a committed personal relationship might interfere with his career (Caving for no reason Franken?).
Sounds like what Liberal Billy Boy went through, and what Hollywood Liberals are going through now huh ?
NO....THIS ISN'T A GOEBBEL TYPE PIECE !
Seems like a fan of the Goebbels style has come to laud.
The point of an article like this is to foist some bullshit implication of political/ideological/religionist superiority is the broad-brush manner that ORGANIZED HATRED has always foisted.
Some shit-for-brains may well be incited to violence by an article like this and it is well within the repertoire of the Jess Willard titular head to push it along!
“You can sway a thousand men by appealing to their prejudices quicker than you can convince one man by logic.”
― Robert A. Heinlein , Revolt in 2100/Methuselah's Children
It's called "Reading". NO where did I say I was a fan.
" The point of an article like this is to foist some bullshit implication of political/ideological"
Truth Hurts ?
Wasn't it Goebbels that loved to use the "Big Bad Financial male" as a scape goat, and .....(hands flailing with no rhyme or reason (Nancy Pelosi)).....labeled them as the destroyer of all that was good ?
Sound familiar ?
Keeping on the "Liberal v. "Goebbels theme.
Fact:
Goebbels and Hitler also propagandized against "Catholics", as a morally bankrupt religion. Wanna guess which political ideology does that to this day ?
Now....remind me again where Goebbels and propaganda comes in again ?
Now....remind me again where Goebbels and propaganda comes in again ?
OK.
DID SATAN CREATE CATHOLICISM?
TRUMP-SUPPORTING
PASTOR ROBERT JEFFRESS THINKS SO
An evangelical pastor and President Donald Trump supporter says Catholicism is a “cult-like pagan religion” and the success of the religion is due to “the genius of Satan.”
Dr. Robert Jeffress, a Southern Baptist pastor, says that the Roman Catholic Church is the result of the Babylonian cult system founded by the Book of Revelation in a video posted on YouTube by RWW Blog.
Twitter slammed and mocked the southern baptist pastor for making the comments on the religion.
"This idea is widespread in RW Born-Againism. They only tolerate Catholics because of anti-abortion stance. Their bigotry just under surface," tweeted one user
nd promoted Jeffress for his new book, A Place Called Heaven: 10 Surprising Truths About Your Eternal Home.
“Great book just out, "A Place Called Heaven," by Dr. Robert Jeffress - A wonderful man,” said Trump.
During the interview, Jeffress defended Trump and said that his message to the slain soldier’s widow was “absolutely appropriate.” He called Wilson a “wacko rhinestone cowboy Congresswoman” and said she was only accusing Trump of these comments for her own self gain.
Jeffress has been a longtime Trump supporter. In July, Trump tweeted a flier to promote the "Celebrate Freedom" concert and rally in Washington where Jeffress spoke. The First Dallas Baptist Church, Jeffress’s mega church, was one of the event's sponsors.
All that needs to be said there A.Mac....."Southern Baptist" huh.
Are they anything like Westboro? ?
Oh....by the way....
What ""High Office" does Dr. Jeffress hold again ?
If I threw in an Obama supporter like a Jeremiah Wright thought...would that make you feel better ?
If I threw in an Obama supporter like a Jeremiah Wright thought...would that make you feel better ?
What do you mean "if"? You boys did that incessantly … and here's the reality …
OBAMA-BASHERS CALLED OBAMA A "MUSLIM" WHILE SIMULTANEOUSLY REPUDIATING HIM FOR HAVING A CHRISTIAN MINISTER!
You asked a question about Catholic-Bashing": I named one WHO SUPPORTS TRUMP.
You had an excuse for Goebbels, you failed to note that Trump has not publicly rejected Jeffress's support, nor David Duke's …
There's no having a dialogue with you.
Merry Christmas and IMPASSE.
Wright did it....not "Us Boys".
"You had an excuse for Goebbels, you failed to note that Trump has not publicly rejected Jeffress's support, nor David Duke's …"
I gave not one excuse for Goebbels and what he did. Now how about you getting back to your accusation of this article. What is Goebbel like about this article, based on the facts I gave you about Goebbels and his ways.
By the way...because you don't except when Trump rejected Duke....doesn't mean he didn't.
Feb. 28, 2016, at 1:20 p.m.
"David Duke endorsed me? OK, alright. I disavow, OK?" Trump said. I leave the Reform Party to David Duke, Pat Buchanan and Lenora Fulani. That is not company I wish to keep. "
Ain't that a hoot ?
I thought you were DEEPLY embedded in keeping up with politics. At least that's what you told me anyway.
The similarity isn't a coincidence since Fred Phelps was ordained as a Southern Baptist.
Robert Jeffress preaches the exact same anti-Catholic, homophobic and misogynistic tripe that Phelps did, he's just slightly less honest in his hatred for women and LGBT folks than Phelps was.
The most effective propaganda always contains a kernel of truth. All of Christianity is morally bankrupt, so sorry the truth hurts.
Or it could equally be that 90% of people who claim to be Christian, are not. Societal pressure and childhood brainwashing makes them think that they are, but you are judged by your actions.
That Jeffries is one stupid little inbred bible humper who has thrown all his faux phonier than thou 'christian' support behind Donald Rump.
I wonder how many little boys or girls he has molested?
So you know Goebbels? Boy, you're old!
From the kind of lies he puts out, he must be a role model.
Pure projection. A teavangelical sex scandal ends up in the media almost once a week, and has for well over a year. Maybe thumpers should check their own bedrooms before worrying about everyone else. Dropping the incidence rates of pedophilia and child molestation within some organized religions and among the self righteous would be a good start.
FROM THE SEEDED ARTICLE:
"In spite of notions to the contrary, liberalism is obsessed with sex. Of course, most liberals would have us believe that this is the case with conservatives, especially Christian conservatives. Yet it is the politics and policies of liberalism that have forced Americans to debate what was once widely rejected as immoral and even unimaginable."
Those who write and post articles like this are the ones "OBSESSED"!
AMERICA'S SELF-APPOINTED CONSCIENCE AND the OFFICIAL MESSENGERS-OF-GOD-ON-EARTH … "thy name is the HYPOCRITICAL CONSERVATIVE WHO IS SIMULTANEOUSLY PRO-LIFE, PRO-GUN, PRO-WAR, PRO-TORTURE, ANTI-WOMAN (as in Equal Pay for Equal Work), ANTI-LIVING WAGE, ANTI-HEALTH INSURANCE FOR CHILDREN, PRO-JESS WILLARD-AGENDA … GAY-BASHER, XENOPHOBE, CALLER-OF-ALL-INCONVENIENT-TRUTH "FAKE NEWS" and ASSAILANTS-OF-REALITY …
YOU ARE A DANGER … you would thwart an investigation into a possible, dangerous conspiracy to protect a con-artist who, along with a pack of self-dealing right-wing legislators, just lined their own pockets, sold out your grandchildren, will use the deficit they exploded to take social security and medicare to subsidize their heist … will cause your health insurance premiums to rise to make up for the shortfall the end of the ACA will befall the insurance companies …
But the Great-White-Dope will "Make America Great Again" in the alleged "minds" that think the good old days were when the W.A.S.P. was king! You are what you are and I am neither fooled nor afraid to call it out!
One f'n pronouncement, stereotype, generalization, faux high road walker-self-patter-on-the-back hate-rant after another …
Merry Christmas and …
Matthew 25:35-40
Also from the seeded article:
From that we see the author has problems with gays, transgender folks, marriage equality, the sexual freedom of consenting adults, and the reproductive rights of women.
No wonder everyone thinks that conservatives and bible-babblers are really dumb bigots who are obsessed with other people's wombs and crotches......I wonder if the author is also opposed to mixed-race marriage? Apparently a majority of white conservatives in some southern cesspools still are.
That doesn't even begin to scratch the surface of the problems this one has.
I don’t condemn anyone to anywhere. That’s way above my role in the universe. I make no declaration where anyone goes. Only God looks upon a heart. In this case the heart of one who is denying that his/her creator even exists.
How do I get a copy of that book? It sounds like a wonderful text!
Ah, the ol' <del>cornholer(/del>, er, cornhusker is up to his usual ol' sewage dumping again. What a stink!
A whole lot of pearl clutching going on with this article.
Well it seems like it’s time to try to redirect this massive seed to the topic which is secular progressive liberals writing the book on contemporary sexual immorality. Please return to the seeded topic. Way to go liberals!
Well it seems like it’s time to try to redirect this massive seed to the topic which is secular progressive liberals writing the book on contemporary sexual immorality. Please return to the seeded topic. Way to go liberals!
Wow.. LMAO!!!
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Republican County Constable Larry Dale Floyd was arrested on suspicion of soliciting sex with an 8-year old girl. Floyd has repeatedly won elections for Denton County, Texas, constable.
Republican judge Mark Pazuhanich pleaded no contest to fondling a 10-year old girl and was sentenced to 10 years probation.
Republican Party leader Bobby Stumbo was arrested for having sex with a 5-year old boy.
Republican teacher and former city councilman John Collins pleaded guilty to sexually molesting 13 and 14 year old girls.
Republican campaign worker Mark Seidensticker is a convicted child molester.
Republican Mayor Philip Giordano is serving a 37-year sentence in federal prison for sexually abusing 8- and 10-year old girls.
Republican Mayor John Gosek was arrested on charges of soliciting sex from two 15-year old girls.
Republican County Commissioner David Swartz pleaded guilty to molesting two girls under the age of 11 and was sentenced to 8 years in prison.
Republican legislator Edison Misla Aldarondo was sentenced to 10 years in prison for raping his daughter between the ages of 9 and 17.
Republican Committeeman John R. Curtain was charged with molesting a teenage boy and unlawful sexual contact with a minor.
Republican anti-abortion activist Howard Scott Heldreth is a convicted child rapist in Florida.
Republican zoning supervisor, Boy Scout leader and Lutheran church president Dennis L. Rader pleaded guilty to performing a sexual act on an 11-year old girl he murdered.
Republican anti-abortion activist Nicholas Morency pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer and offering a bounty to anybody who murders an abortion doctor.
Republican campaign consultant Tom Shortridge was sentenced to three years probation for taking nude photographs of a 15-year old girl.
Republican racist pedophile and United States Senator Strom Thurmond had sex with a 15-year old black girl which produced a child.
Republican pastor Mike Hintz, whom George W. Bush commended during the 2004 presidential campaign, surrendered to police after admitting to a sexual affair with a female juvenile.
Republican legislator Peter Dibble pleaded no contest to having an inappropriate relationship with a 13-year-old girl.
Republican advertising consultant Carey Lee Cramer was charged with molesting his 9-year old step-daughter after including her in an anti-Gore television commercial.
Republican activist Lawrence E. King, Jr. organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980s.
Republican lobbyist Craig J. Spence organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980s.
Republican Congressman Donald "Buz" Lukens was found guilty of having sex with a female minor and sentenced to one month in jail.
Republican fundraiser Richard A. Delgaudio was found guilty of child porn charges and paying two teenage girls to pose for sexual photos.
Republican activist Mark A. Grethen convicted on six counts of sex crimes involving children.
Republican activist Randal David Ankeney pleaded guilty to attempted sexual assault on a child.
Republican Congressman Dan Crane had sex with a female minor working as a congressional page.
Republican activist and Christian Coalition leader Beverly Russell admitted to an incestuous relationship with his step daughter.
Republican Judge Ronald C. Kline was placed under house arrest for child molestation and possession of child pornography.
Republican congressman and anti-gay activist Robert Bauman was charged with having sex with a 16-year-old boy he picked up at a gay bar.
Republican Committee Chairman Jeffrey Patti was arrested for distributing a video clip of a 5-year-old girl being raped.
Republican activist Marty Glickman (a.k.a. "Republican Marty"), was taken into custody by Florida police on four counts of unlawful sexual activity with an underage girl and one count of delivering the drug LSD.
Republican legislative aide Howard L. Brooks was charged with molesting a 12-year old boy and possession of child pornography.
Republican Senate candidate John Hathaway was accused of having sex with his 12-year old baby sitter and withdrew his candidacy after the allegations were reported in the media.
Republican preacher Stephen White, who demanded a return to traditional values, was sentenced to jail after offering $20 to a 14-year-old boy for permission to perform oral sex on him.
Republican talk show host Jon Matthews pleaded guilty to exposing his genitals to an 11 year old girl.
Republican anti-gay activist Earl "Butch" Kimmerling was sentenced to 40 years in prison for molesting an 8-year old girl after he attempted to stop a gay couple from adopting her.
Republican election board official Kevin Coan was sentenced to two years probation for soliciting sex over the internet from a 14-year old girl.
Republican politician Andrew Buhr was charged with two counts of first degree sodomy with a 13-year old boy.
Republican politician Keith Westmoreland was arrested on seven felony counts of lewd and lascivious exhibition to girls under the age of 16 (i.e. exposing himself to children).
Republican anti-abortion activist John Allen Burt was found guilty of molesting a 15-year old girl.
Republican County Councilman Keola Childs pleaded guilty to molesting a male child.
Republican activist John Butler was charged with criminal sexual assault on a teenage girl.
Republican candidate Richard Gardner admitted to molesting his two daughters.
Republican Councilman and former Marine Jack W. Gardner was convicted of molesting a 13-year old girl.
Republican County Commissioner Merrill Robert Barter pleaded guilty to unlawful sexual contact and assault on a teenage boy.
Republican City Councilman Fred C. Smeltzer, Jr. pleaded no contest to raping a 15 year-old girl and served 6-months in prison.
Republican activist Parker J. Bena pleaded guilty to possession of child pornography on his home computer and was sentenced to 30 months in federal prison and fined $18,000.
Republican parole board officer and former Colorado state representative, Larry Jack Schwarz, was fired after child pornography was found in his possession.
Republican strategist and Citadel Military College graduate Robin Vanderwall was convicted in Virginia on five counts of soliciting sex from boys and girls over the internet.
Republican businessman Jon Grunseth withdrew his candidacy for Minnesota governor after allegations surfaced that he went swimming in the nude with four underage girls, including his daughter.
Republican director of the "Young Republican Federation" Nicholas Elizondo molested his 6-year old daughter and was sentenced to six years in prison.
Republican president of the New York City Housing Development Corp. Russell Harding pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer.
Republican Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld authorized the rape of children in Iraqi prisons in order to humiliate their parents into providing information about the anti-American insurgency.
Republican serial killer Ted Bundy was hired by the Republican Party
Republican activist Matthew Glavin, who preached family values, was caught masturbating in public and fondling an undercover park ranger
Republican Party Chairman Sam Walls, who is married, was urged to drop his candidacy for Congress when it was found he likes to dress up in women's clothing
Republican Congressman Edward Schrock resigned from Congress after he was caught searching for sex on a gay telephone service
Republican Mayor Jim West Republican voter Timothy McVeigh bombed Oklahoma City championed an anti-gay agenda, but was later found to be gay himself
Republican preacher Jimmy Swaggart preached fidelity, but cheated on his wife with a prostitute
Republican Congressman Bob Livingston was about to vote for impeaching President Clinton for sexual improprieties until it was disclosed he was an adulterer
Republican Congressman Henry Hyde denounced President Clinton's extramarital affair, but was later found to be an adulterer himself
Republican Party leader Paul Ingram pleaded guilty to six counts of raping his daughters and served 14 years in federal prison.
Republican benefactor of conservative Christian groups, Richard A. Dasen Sr., was found guilty of raping a 15-year old girl. Dasen, 62, who is married with grown children and several grandchildren,
has told police that over the past decade he paid more than $1 million to have sex with a large number of young women.
Republican city councilman Mark Harris, who is described as a "good military man" and "church goer," was convicted of repeatedly having sex with an 11-year-old girl and sentenced to 12 years in prison.
Republican anti-abortion activist Howard Scott Heldreth is a convicted child rapist in Florida.
Republican County Commissioner David Swartz pleaded guilty to molesting two girls under the age of 11 and was sentenced to 8 years in prison.
Republican judge Mark Pazuhanich pleaded no contest to fondling a 10-year old girl and was sentenced to 10 years probation.
Republican anti-abortion activist Nicholas Morency pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer and offering a bounty to anybody who murders an abortion doctor.
Republican legislator Edison Misla Aldarondo was sentenced to 10 years in prison for raping his daughter between the ages of 9 and 17.
Republican Mayor Philip Giordano is serving a 37-year sentence in federal prison for sexually abusing 8- and 10-year old girl.
Republican campaign consultant Tom Shortridge was sentenced to three years probation for taking nude photographs of a 15-year old girl.
Republican racist pedophile and United States Senator Strom Thurmond had sex with a 15-year old black girl which produced a child.
Republican pastor Mike Hintz, whom George W. Bush commended during the 2004 presidential campaign, surrendered to police after admitting to a sexual affair with a female juvenile.
Republican legislator Peter Dibble pleaded no contest to having an inappropriate relationship with a 13-year-old girl.
Republican activist Lawrence E. King, Jr. organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980s.
Republican lobbyist Craig J. Spence organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980s.
Republican Congressman Donald "Buz" Lukens was found guilty of having sex with a female minor and sentenced to one month in jail.
Republican fundraiser Richard A. Delgaudio was found guilty of child porn charges and paying two teenage girls to pose for sexual photos.
Republican activist Mark A. Grethen convicted on six counts of sex crimes involving children.
Republican activist Randal David Ankeney pleaded guilty to attempted sexual assault on a child.
Republican Congressman Dan Crane had sex with a female minor working as a congressional page.
Republican activist and Christian Coalition leader Beverly Russell admitted to an incestuous relationship with his step daughter.
Republican governor Arnold Schwarzenegger allegedly had sex with a 16 year old girl when he was 28.
Republican congressman and anti-gay activist Robert Bauman was charged with having sex with a 16-year-old boy he picked up at a gay bar.
Republican Committee Chairman Jeffrey Patti was arrested for distributing a video clip of a 5-year-old girl being raped.
Republican activist Marty Glickman (a.k.a. "Republican Marty"), was taken into custody by Florida police on four counts of unlawful sexual activity with an underage girl and one count of delivering the drug LSD.
Republican legislative aide Howard L. Brooks was charged with molesting a 12-year old boy and possession of child pornography.
Republican Senate candidate John Hathaway was accused of having sex with his 12-year old baby sitter and withdrew his candidacy after the allegations were reported in the media.
Republican preacher Stephen White, who demanded a return to traditional values, was sentenced to jail after offering $20 to a 14-year-old boy for permission to perform oral sex on him.
Republican talk show host Jon Matthews pleaded guilty to exposing his genitals to an 11 year old girl.
Republican anti-gay activist Earl "Butch" Kimmerling was sentenced to 40 years in prison for molesting an 8-year old girl after he attempted to stop a gay couple from adopting her.
Republican Party leader Paul Ingram pleaded guilty to six counts of raping his daughters and served 14 years in federal prison.
Republican election board official Kevin Coan was sentenced to two years probation for soliciting sex over the internet from a 14-year old girl.
Republican politician Andrew Buhr was charged with two counts of first degree sodomy with a 13-year old boy.
Republican politician Keith Westmoreland was arrested on seven felony counts of lewd and lascivious exhibition to girls under the age of 16 (i.e. exposing himself to children).
Republican anti-abortion activist John Allen Burt was charged with sexual misconduct involving a 15-year old girl.
Republican County Councilman Keola Childs pleaded guilty to molesting a male child.
Republican activist John Butler was charged with criminal sexual assault on a teenage girl.
Republican candidate Richard Gardner admitted to molesting his two daughters.
Republican Councilman and former Marine Jack W. Gardner was convicted of molesting a 13-year old girl.
Republican County Commissioner Merrill Robert Barter pleaded guilty to unlawful sexual contact and assault on a teenage boy.
Republican City Councilman Fred C. Smeltzer, Jr. pleaded no contest to raping a 15 year-old girl and served 6-months in prison.
Republican activist Parker J. Bena pleaded guilty to possession of child pornography on his home computer and was sentenced to 30 months in federal prison and fined $18,000.
Republican parole board officer and former Colorado state representative, Larry Jack Schwarz, was fired after child pornography was found in his possession.
Republican strategist and Citadel Military College graduate Robin Vanderwall was convicted in Virginia on five counts of soliciting sex from boys and girls over the internet.
Republican city councilman Mark Harris, who is described as a "good military man" and "church goer," was convicted of repeatedly having sex with an 11-year-old girl and sentenced to 12 years in prison.
Republican businessman Jon Grunseth withdrew his candidacy for Minnesota governor after allegations surfaced that he went swimming in the nude with four underage girls, including his daughter.
Republican director of the "Young Republican Federation" Nicholas Elizondo molested his 6-year old daughter and was sentenced to six years in prison.
Republican benefactor of conservative Christian groups, Richard A. Dasen Sr., was charged with rape for allegedly paying a 15-year old girl for sex. Dasen, 62, who is married with grown children and several grandchildren, has allegedly told police that over the past decade he paid more than $1 million to have sex with a large number of young women.
Republican Mayor John Gosek, 58, of 275 West 7th Street, Oswego, was arrested for the federal offense of "using a facility in inte-state commerce (a telephone) to knowingly attempt to persuade, induce, entice, and coerce an individual under the age of 18 years to engage in sexual activity for which he could be charged with criminal offenses, that is, rape in the third degree and criminal sexual act in the third degree" in violation of the New York State Penal Code.
Republican racist pedophile and United States Senator Strom Thurmond had sex with a 15-year old black girl which produced a child.
Republican activist Lawrence E. King, Jr. organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980s.
Republican lobbyist Craig J. Spence organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980s.
Republican Mayor Philip Giordano is serving a 37-year sentence in federal prison for sexually abusing 8- and 10-year old girls.
Republican Congressman Donald "Buz" Lukens was found guilty of having sex with a minor and sentenced to one month in jail.
Republican fundraiser Richard A. Delgaudio was found guilty of child porn charges.
Republican activist Mark A. Grethen convicted on six counts of sex crimes involving children.
Republican activist Randal David Ankeney pleaded guilty to attempted sexual assault on a child.
Republican Congressman Dan Crane had sex with a minor working as a congressional page.
Republican activist and Christian Coalition leader Beverly Russell admitted to an incestuous relationship with his step daughter.
Republican congressman and anti-gay activist Robert Bauman was charged with having sex with a 16-year-old boy he picked up at a gay bar.
Republican activist Marty Glickman (a.k.a. "Republican Marty"), was taken into custody by Florida police on four counts of unlawful sexual activity with a juvenile and one count of delivering the drug LSD.
Republican legislative aide Howard L. Brooks, an advisor to a California assemblyman, was charged with molesting a 12-year old boy and possession of child pornography.
Republican Senate candidate John Hathaway was accused of having sex with his 12-year old baby sitter and withdrew his candidacy after the allegations were reported in the media.
Republican preacher Stephen White was arrested after allegedly offering $20 to a 14-year-old boy for permission to perform oral sex on him.
Republican talk show host Jon Matthews of Houston was indicted for indecency with a child, including exposing his genitals to a girl under the age of 17.
Republican anti-gay activist Earl "Butch" Kimmerling confessed to molesting an 8-year old girl after he attempted to stop a gay couple from adopting her.
Republican Party leader Paul Ingram of Thurston County, Washington, pleaded guilty to six counts of raping his daughters and served 14 years in federal prison.
Republican St. Louis Election Board official Kevin Coan was arrested and charged with trying to buy sex from a 14-year-old girl whom he met on the Internet.
Republican politician Andrew Buhr, former committeeman for Hadley Township Missouri, was charged with two counts of first degree sodomy with a 13-year old boy.
Republican politician Keith Westmoreland, a Tennessee state representative, was arrested on seven felony counts of lewd and lascivious exhibition to minors under 16 (i.e. exposing himself to children).
Republican anti-abortion activist John Allen Burt was charged with sexual misconduct involving a 15 year old girl.
Republican legislator, Richard Gardner, a Nevada state representative, admitted to molesting his two daughters.
Republican activist Parker J. Bena pleaded guilty to possession of child pornography on his home computer and was sentenced to 30 months in federal prison and fined $18,000.
Republican parole board officer and former Colorado state representative, Larry Jack Schwarz, was fired after child pornography was found in his possession.
Republican strategist and Citadel Military College graduate Robin Vanderwall was convicted in Virginia on five counts of soliciting sex from boys and girls over the internet.
Republican anti-abortion activist Howard Scott Heldreth is a convicted child rapist in Florida.
Republican County Commissioner David Swartz pleaded guilty to molesting two girls under the age of 11 and was sentenced to 8 years in prison.
Republican judge Mark Pazuhanich pleaded no contest to fondling a 10-year old girl and was sentenced to 10 years probation. Of course it's no contest! How could he even get a fair fight against those activist judges!
Republican anti-abortion activist Nicholas Morency pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer and offering a bounty to anybody who murders an abortion doctor. - That's the culture of life we all know and love!
Defense contractor, Mitchell Wade, admitted that he paid California Rep. Randy "Duke" Cunningham (republican) more than $1 million in bribes in exchange for millions more in government contracts.
Republican legislator Edison Misla Aldarondo sentenced to 10 years in prison for raping his 9 yr old daughter.
Republican Mayor Philip Giordano serving a 37-year sentence for sexually abusing 8- and 10-year old girls.
Republican campaign consultant Tom Shortridge sentenced to 3 years probation for taking nude photographs of a 15-year old girl. I'm sure he had a good explanation.
Republican racist pedophile and esteemed US Senator Strom Thurmond fathered a chiled with a 15-year old black girl.
Republican pastor Mike Hintz, whom George W. Bush commended during the 2004 presidential campaign, surrendered to police after admitting to sexual relations with a juvenile. Praise George!
Republican legislator Peter Dibble pleaded no contest to having inappropriate relations with a 13-year-old girl.
Republican activist Lawrence E King, Jr. organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980s.
Republican lobbyist Craig J. Spence organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980s.
Republican Congressman Donald "Buz" Lukens found guilty of sex with a female minor and sentenced to one month in jail.
Republican fundraiser Richard A. Delgaudio found guilty of child porn charges and paying two teenage girls to pose for sexual photos.
Republican activist Mark A. Grethen convicted on 6counts of child sex crimes.
Republican activist Randal David Ankeney pleaded guilty to attempted sexual assault on a child. Look, he didn't actually do anything. He only TRIED! You can't fault a republican for trying!
Republican Congressman Dan Crane had sex with a female minor working as a congressional page.
Republican activist and Christian Coalition leader Beverly Russell admitted to an incestuous relationship with his step daughter. Prai$e the lord!
Republican governor Arnold Schwarzenegger allegedly had sex with a 16 year old girl when he was 28. I love this country!
Republican congressman and anti-gay activist Robert Bauman was charged with having sex with a 16-year-old boy he picked up at a gay bar. Now I'm sure he can give us a good explanation for this.
Republican Committee Chairman Jeffrey Patti was arrested for distributing a video clip of a 5-year-old girl being raped. Obviously a liberal conspiracy!
Republican activist Marty Glickman (a.k.a. "Republican Marty"), was taken into custody by Florida police on four counts of unlawful sexual activity with an underage girl and one count of delivering the drug LSD. He was obviously trying to help this woman! Do you liberals no shame!Republican legislative aide Howard L. Brooks was charged with molesting a 12-year old boy and possession of child pornography. Look! It was his own son. Geez you liberals are SICK!
Republican Senate candidate John Hathaway accused of having sex with his 12-year old baby sitter and withdrew his candidacy after the allegations were reported in the media. He was trying to explain to her what NOT to do when in a difficult situation!
Republican preacher Stephen White, who demanded a return to traditional values, was sentenced to jail after offering $20 to a 14-year-old boy for permission to perform oral sex on him.
Republican talk show host Jon Matthews pleaded guilty to exposing his genitals to an 11 year old girl. She could have turned away.
Republican anti-gay activist Earl "Butch" Kimmerling was sentenced to 40 years in prison for molesting an 8-year old girl after he attempted to stop a gay couple from adopting her. Liberal jury of course.
Republican Party leader Paul Ingram pleaded guilty to six counts of raping his daughters and served 14 years in federal prison. Now how could anyone rape their daughter 6 times! Can you say Liberal psycologist!
Republican election board official Kevin Coan was sentenced to two years probation for soliciting sex over the internet from a 14-year old girl. Obviously set up by a liberal computer hacker. These hackers no NO SHAME!
Republican politician Andrew Buhr was charged with two counts of first degree sodomy with a 13-year old boy.
Republican politician Keith Westmoreland was arrested on seven felony counts of lewd and lascivious exhibition to girls under the age of 16 (i.e. exposing himself to children). You see, actually he happened to be changing out of his bathing suit when these kids walked by.
Republican anti-abortion activist John Allen Burt was charged with sexual misconduct involving a 15-year old girl.
Republican County Councilman Keola Childs pleaded guilty to molesting a male child. He pleaded guilty only to keep his family out of the liberal media's spotlight.
Republican activist John Butler was charged with criminal sexual assault on a teenage girl. She was eighTEEN. That's still a teenager!
Republican candidate Richard Gardner admitted to molesting his two daughters. He only had their interests in mind. Why don't you liberals see that!
Republican Councilman and former Marine Jack W. Gardner was convicted of molesting a 13-year old girl. No comment.
Republican benefactor of conservative Christian groups, Richard A. Dasen Sr., was charged with rape for allegedly paying a 15-year old girl for sex. Dasen, 62, who is married with grown children and several grandchildren, has allegedly told police that over the past decade he paid more than $1 million to have sex with a large number of young women. Philanthrapy at it's finest!
Republican County Commissioner Merrill Robert Barter pleaded guilty to unlawful sexual contact and assault on a teenage boy. That boy was a liberal trying to corrupt his mind. He did the right thing.
Republican City Councilman Fred C. Smeltzer, Jr. pleaded no contest to raping a 15 year-old girl and served 6-months in prison. He did the honorable thing and did his time.
Republican activist Parker J. Bena pleaded guilty to possession of child pornography on his home computer and was sentenced to 30 months in federal prison and fined $18,000. Lies. Lies! All liberal lies!
Republican parole board officer and former Colorado state representative, Larry Jack Schwarz, was fired after child pornography was found in his possession. Obviously set up by that liberal media!
Republican strategist and Citadel Military College graduate Robin Vanderwall was convicted in Virginia on five counts of soliciting sex from boys and girls over the internet. Who said republicans were sexist!
The deputy press secretary for the U.S. Department of Homeland Security was arrested
Tuesday, April 04, 2006, for using the Internet to seduce what he thought was a teenage
girl, authorities said. Rep. Brian J. Doyle, 55, was arrested in Maryland where he lives
on charges of use of a computer to seduce a child and transmission of harmful material
to a minor. The charges were issued out of Polk County, Fla.
Republican anti-abortion activist Neal Horsley admitted to having sex with a mule.
A judge on Wednesday, 04-05-06, allowed a lawsuit to proceed against Jessica Cutler, the
former Senate aide who posted details of her sex life on the Internet. The case brought
by REPUBLICAN Sen. Mike DeWine's former counsel to the Senate Judiciary Committee,
Robert Steinbuch, alleges that Cutler engaged in an invasion of his privacy in 2004
by publishing sexually explicit facts about a relationship with Steinbuch.
REPUBLICAN Otis O'Neal Horsley (born 1944) is an American political figure of the far REPUBLICAN right.
He is the author of christiangallery . com , a website devoted to his advocacy of militant anti-abortion,
secessionist, and anti-gay views. Last night, May 09, 2005, anti-abortion extremist
Neal Horsley was a guest on The Alan Colmes Show, a FOX News radio program. The topic
was an interesting one - whether or not an internet service provider should allow Horsley
to post the names of abortion doctors on his website. Horsley does that as a way of
targeting them and one doctor has been killed. In the course of the interview, however,
Colmes asked Neal Horsley about his background, including a statement that he had admitted to
engaging in homosexual and bestiality sex, including having sex with a MULE!
Republican city councilman Mark Harris, who is described as a "good military man" and "church goer," was convicted of repeatedly having sex with an 11-year-old girl and sentenced to 12 years in prison. If you do the crime, you do the time + 1.
Republican businessman Jon Grunseth withdrew his candidacy for Minnesota governor after allegations surfaced that he went swimming in the nude with four underage girls, including his daughter. He just wanted to keep an eye out for those girls...and his daughter. He even had pictures to prove it!
Republican director of the "Young Republican Federation" Nicholas Elizondo molested his 6-year old daughter and was sentenced to six years in prison.
Rev. C. Stephen White -- better known on Penn's campus as "Brother Stephen" -- will face
trial on charges of soliciting sex from a 14-year-old boy, according to the West Chester
District Attorney's office. At a preliminary hearing held Aug. 12, White pleaded not
guilty to charges of criminal solicitation, criminal attempt to lure a child into a motor
vehicle and corruption of minors. All charges will be held for court, according to West
Chester Assistant District Attorney Kimberly Callahan, who will prosecute the case.
White is married and has three sons and republican fundraiser in the area.
Republican Jack Burkmana reportedly has been caught allegedly offering to pay $1,000 for
sex with two homosexuals ... Republican operative Jack Burkmana former lobbyist for
"Family Research Council" The council and Mr. Burkmana support and donate money to the Bush
administration and the GOP.
(June 28, 2006)--A South Texas jury has found a 44-year-old REPUBLICAN political consultant guilty of
four counts involving the sexual molestation of children. The 44-year-old CARY LEE CRAMER was
convicted of one count of aggravated sexual assault of a child, two of indecency with a
child by contact and one of indecency with a child by exposure. Cramer, who now lives in
Tucson, Ariz., gained national attention during the 2000 presidential election.
His McAllen company created a TV ad accusing the Clinton-Gore administration of giving away
nuclear technology to China in exchange for campaign contributions. Cramer faces a maximum
of 149 years in prison for the four felony charges.
Republican Lou Beres denied sexual-molestation allegations when the Oregonian newspaper first reported them in October.
Beres acknowledged sexually touching a 16- or 17-year-old friend of his daughter in 1976 or 1977.
But a local Police Department report released as part of a lawsuit said Beres "readily admitted sexually touching" one girl when she was 13 or 14 years old.
The longtime leader of the Oregon Christian Coalition and staunch opponent of gay rights
admits in a newly released police report that he sexually touched three underage girls.
August 30, 2006 A Texas pastor accused of raping a church member after telling her she was possessed by a lesbian demon at his house last year has been indicted. Republican, Leonard Ray Owens, 63, who is free on $25,000 bail, is now awaiting trial on a charge of sexual assault, a second-degree felony punishable by two to 20 years in prison. He was arrested in November, 2005.
Police began investigating Owens last year after a 22-year-old woman reported that Owens raped her twice at his Fort Worth home. The woman told police that in July, several months after she began attending the Prayer House of Faith, she went to Owens' home for counseling following a miscarriage. Owens told her that a sex spirit and lesbian demon were inside her and needed to be cast out, police said. The pastor then asked her to lie on the floor and began yelling at her as if she were a demon, saying, "Loose her in the name of Jesus," according to an arrest warrant affidavit.
Christian bookstore owner, cop admit sex with boy
Pittsburgh, PA, August 30, 2006
A former college administrator, a former Christian bookstore owner and a former policeman admitted to sexual misconduct with a teenage boy.They were among five men arrested in March as part of an ongoing investigation of men who meet boys through Internet chat rooms, authorities said.William Gillin, 53, republican and Paul Skiles, 63, republican, both of Johnstown, pleaded guilty yesterday to corruption of minors, indecent assault and unlawful communications with minors. Mr. Gillin is the former alumni relations director at the University of Pittsburgh at Johnstown. Mr. Skiles owned the now-closed B&K Christian Bookstore in Richland Township.Some of the incidents occurred when the boy was 16, prosecutors said. He is now 17.
Donald Lukens, Republican Congressman, was found guilty of having sex with a minor - a girl he was accused of sleeping with since she was 13. Time Article
Pat McPherson, Douglas County Election Commissioner. Arrested for fondling a 17-year-old girl. Article
Jon Matthews, Republican talk show host in Houston, was indicted for indecency with a child, including exposing his genitals to a girl under the age of 17. Source: ABC News
Jeff Miller, (R-Cleveland), Senate Republican Caucus Chairman in Tennessee and the sponsor of Tennessee's Marriage Protection act, getting divorced (as of April 2005) because of an affair he was having with an office aid. Miller described the Tennessee Marriage Protection Act as a means of preserving the sanctity of marriage. He opposed an amendment, however, which stated that "Adultery is deemed to be a threat to the institution of marriage and contrary to public policy in Tennessee." <8> <9>
Jim Wesr, Spokane Mayor. Supported a bill, which failed, would have barred gays and lesbians from working in schools, day-care centers and some state agencies. Voted to bar the state from distributing pamphlets telling people how to protect themselves from AIDS. Proposed that "any touching of the sexual or other intimate parts of a person" among teens be criminalized. Had a sexual affair with an 18 year old boy.Source: Spokesman review
Keith Westmoreland, a Tennessee state representative (R), was arrested on seven felony counts of lewd and lascivious exhibition to minors under 16 (i.e. exposing himself to children). Tennesean Article
Stephen White, Republican preacher. Was arrested after allegedly offering $20 to a 14-year-old boy for permission to perform oral sex on him. Daily Pennsylvanian article | Daily yale News Article
Nicholas Morency, Republican anti-abortion activist, pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer and offering a bounty to anybody who murders an abortion doctor The Dallas Morning News article.
Sue Myrick, Congresswoman (R-NC), describes herself as a "devout Christian." Committed adultery with a married man.
Bill O'Reilly Right-wing conservative talk show host on Fox News, sued for sexual harrassment by his producer.
Bob Packwood, Senator (R-Ore.), resigned in 1995 under a threat of public senate hearings related to 10 female ex-staffers accusing him of sexual harassment.
Jeffrey Patti, Republican Committee Chairman, was arrested for distributing what experts call "some of the most offensive material in the child pornography world" - a video clip of a 5-year-old girl being raped. Daily Record News Article
John Paulk, lied about prowling for gay sex while running a fundamentalist group to cure gays.
Brent Parker Utah State Representetive. Arrested for soliciting sex from an undercover officer posing as a male prostitute. KSL News Article |Deseret News Article
John Peterson, Congressman (R-Pa), accused of sexual harassment and creation of a hostile work environment by six women. Peterson has refused to admit a crime, saying only "I may have been an excessive hugger."
Harvey Pitt, SEC Chief under George W. Bush until he was forced to resign in 2002. Worked for New Frontier Media, a firm which distributed teen sex videos.
Mark Pazuhanich, Republican judge, pleaded no contest to fondling a 10-year old girl and was sentenced to 10 years probation. Pocono Record article
George Roche III, carried on a 19 year affair with his son's wife, while serving as president of Hillsdale College, which "emphasizes the importance of the common moral truths that bind all Americans, while recognizing the importance of religion for the maintenance of a free society."
Beverly Russell, County Chairman of the Christian Coalition, sexually molested his step-daughter, Susan Smith, who later drowned her two children. Herald-Journal Article |Commentary on Newsweek Article
Jack Ryan, 2004 Republican nominee for US Senate from Illinois, pressured his wive, actress Jeri Ryan, to have sex with other men. Tricked her into visiting sex clubs, where he asked her to have sex with him while others watched.<10>
Joe Scarborough, former Republican Congressman, currently a conservative talk show host. Resigned his congressional seat abruptly to spend more time with his family, amidst allegations of an affair. His intern, Lori Klausutis, was soon after found dead in his office. The medical examiner, who had his license revoked in Missouri for falsifying information in an autopsy report, and suspended in florida for six years, ruled the case an accident, after giving conflicting information about her injuries. He said he lied about them because "The last thing we wanted was 40 questions about a head injury."
Ed Schrock, two-term republican congressman, with a 92% approval rating from the Christian Coalition. Cosponsor of the Federal Marriage Amendment, consistently opposed gay rights. Married, with wife and kids. Withdrew his candidacy for a third term after tapes of him soliciting for gay sex were circulated.
Dr. Laura Schlessinger, right wing conservative radio host. Promotes family values, estranged from her mother, opposes birth control, has had her tubes tied, espouses saving oneself for marriage, admits to having had sex before she was married, opposes adultery, has committed adultery while she was married, and has slept with a married man, opposes divorce, is divorced and remarried, has posed for nude photos which are available online.
Arnold Schwarzenegger, Republican governor, had sex with a 16 year old when he was 28.
Jean Schmidt, OH-2, though not herself implicated, employed a campaign manager (Joe Braun) in her 2005 election who once wrote an article condemning gay men for running sex ad profiles, and who was then accused of running his own sex profile on Collarme, an S&M sex site. The profile called for "submissives" to wear only a collar and handcuffs and to have hot wax dripped on them. DKOS Diary
John Scmitz, right-wing republican congressman, who had had his committee chairship taken away from him in the California State Senate after issuing a press release attacking Jews, feminists and gays. Forced out of office in 1982 for having an adulterous affair and fathering two children out of wedlock with one of his students. He was caught because his baby was admitted to hospital for having hair tied so tightly around his penis that it was almost severed. His daughter, Mary Kay LeTourneau, was convicted of having an adulterous affair with one of her students, and giving birth to two of his children. Wikipedia article
Larry Jack Schwarz, Republican parole board officer and former Colorado state representative, fired after child pornography was found in his possession. Rocky Mountain News article With his political career over, he went to work in the hard-core pornography industry for Platinum X Pictures, owned by his daughter, porn starlet Jewel De'Nyle (Stephany Schwarz). Wikipedia article
Jim Stelling, Seminole County Republican Party chairman who believes in "family values", as he told a judge. Filed a defamation lawsuit againt Nancy Goettman, a former county GOP executive committee member, for falsely claiming he had been married six times. Stelling has been married 5 times. Article
Don Sherwood, Republican member of the U.S. House of Representatives. Eventually admitted to an affar with a woman 30 years younger than him, after she accused him of physical abuse and attempting to choke her. Post-Gazette article
Tom Shortridge. Republican campaign consultant, was sentenced to three years probation for taking nude photographs of a 15-year old girl. LA Times article
Fred C. Smeltzer, Jr., Republican City Councilman, pleaded no contest to raping a 15 year-old girl and served 6-months in prison. Sex Offender Registry page | Article
Craig J. Spence, Republican lobbyist, organized orgies with child prostitutes in the White House during the 1980s. Full page including Washington Times article Discovery Channel documentary
Jimmy Swaggart, televangelist, said during a sermon "I'm trying to find the correct name for it ... this utter absolute, asinine, idiotic stupidity of men marrying men. ... I've never seen a man in my life I wanted to marry. And I'm gonna be blunt and plain; if one ever looks at me like that, I'm gonna kill him and tell God he died." Had an affair with a prostitute.
David Swartz, Republican County Commissioner, pleaded guilty to molesting two girls under the age of 11 and was sentenced to 8 years in prison. Rocky Mountain News Article
Randall Terry, Right to Life activist, founder of Operation Rescue, involved in the Terri Schiavo protests. Once imprisoned for sending former President Bill Clinton an aborted fetus. His son Jamiel is gay; his daughter Tila had sex outside of marriage, became pregnant, had a miscarriage - she is no longer welcome in his home; his daughter Ebony had 2 children outside of wedlock and became Muslim. He has campaigned against infidelity and birth control, gays and unwed mothers. Terry himself was censured by his church after committing adultery.
Bill Thomas Republican congressman, had an affair with Deborah Steelman, a health care lobbyist who steered huge campaign gifts to Thomas' war chest.
Strom Thurmond, republican senator and racist, raped and impregnanted a 15-year old African American maid. (BBC Article)
Robin Vanderwall, Republican strategist and Citadel Military College graduate, director of Faith & Family Alliance, (a Christian Coalition spin off), former student of Pat Robertson's Regent Universtity, member of Ralph Reed's inner circle who funneled money to from lobbiest Jack Abromoff to Reed <11>, convicted in Virginia for soliticing sex from a 13-year-old-boy<12> and on four other counts of soliciting sex from boys and girls over the internet. Virginian-Pilot Article
J.C. Watts, Representative (R-Oklahoma), loud champion of "moral values." Has out-of-wedlock children.
This list was made before Mark Foley, David Vitter or Larry Craig!
What I think is funny is that the party that is being hammered by sexual assault accusations is also the party that was in charge when men were allowed in the women's bathroom.