'' I am not a racist '' Trump says
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President Donald Trump defended himself Sunday in the wake of recent disparaging comments about Haiti and African nations, declaring that "I am not a racist."
Trump addressed the issue briefly as he arrived for dinner at his private golf club with House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy of California.
Asked what he thinks about people who think he is racist, Trump said, "No, No. I am not a racist." He told reporters: "I am the least racist person you have ever interviewed. That I can tell you."
Trump also denied making the statements attributed to him, but didn't get into specifics about what he did or did not say.
"Did you see what various senators in the room said about my comments?" he asked. "They weren't made."
Trump has been accused of using the word "shithole" to describe African countries during an Oval Office meeting last Thursday with a bipartisan group of six senators. The president also questioned the need to admit more Haitians to the U.S., according to people who were briefed on the conversation but were not authorized to describe the meeting publicly.
Trump also said in the meeting that he would prefer immigrants from countries like Norway instead.
The White House has not denied that Trump said "shithole" though Trump previously has pushed back on some depictions of the meeting.
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Donny, how are those detectives you sent to Hawaii to find about Obama's birth certificate doing? Have they reported back yet?
the crooked racist !
I'm afraid that dosen't prove racism. If Barak Obama was the only person to have the issue come up you may have a case, but when George Romney (father of Mitt), Barry Goldwater, John McCain and Ted Cruz all had their citizenship questioned it can no longer be a matter of race when one of the five of them happens to be black.
it doesn't have to
it sure does seem to add to the correlation though
No one would have suspected that the King of the Birthers holds racist views.
Can't imagine why anyone would think Obama was Kenyan, seeing how he advertised himself as one.
that is the most ridiculous thing i've ever heard vic.
those other 4 had a molehill made of their issues
you guys made a mountain that lasted many years out of obamas birth
trump's birtherism was absolutely racist
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Birthers are the dumbest fucks this country has ever produced. I hope you are not a birther.
Only someone who didn’t bother to read the Snopes article wouldn’t be able to imagine it!
So in other words he did nothing of the sort
Soo.....you don't think that maybe the fact that Trump let Jesse Jackson use some of his property on 40 Wall Street during that time kind of had a factor in all that big praise?!
I’m calling Jesse Jackson a person an opportunist who during that time was at that time was coasting at the height of his career after his 1988 Presidential campaign and it was good exposure for Trump due to him having problems with opening the Taj Mahal during that time. So you don’t think that having a headquarters on 40 Wall Street given for free wont garner any praises and faux adulation then you’re lying to yourself!
Btw.....it's funny how you use Jesse Jackson as an example of how Trump isn't racist in one breathe while disparaging the man in the next!
The only real dispute seems to be whether Der Fuhrer used the words "shit holes" or "shit houses". Either way his racist and xenophobic intent was clear.
And given his 45+ year history of blatant racism it's funny that anyone is trying to give cover to the King of the Birther morons. Even the DOJ knows he's a racist.
And he knows this is what his despicables want to hear.
So far, I haven't heard anyone really say that those countries aren't shitholes.
So, are they mad that he SAID it or that it is true?
I'm still waiting as well.
They're made he said it. You know, because it's not the sugar coated PC way they like things.
in a restaurant, or something ? n didn't I see you're into metal ? I prefer non ferrous metal myself
so you feel every country in the entire CONTINENT of Africa is a "$hithole" ?
Why should the president of the United States be calling other countries shitholes, for any reason?
You don't seem to understand why Trump's remarks are not acceptable.
If someone said 'X' , your hometown, is a shithole and people from there are not welcome in 'Y', you would think they were nuts. Even if 'X' is a shithole does that mean that everyone who comes from there is shit?
And how many Haitians do you think are here, anyway?
Gee, since the remarks are deemed to be unacceptable, why on earth would someone in the Democratic Party leak them?
Probably because many are in fact shitholes.
I would agree with them. There is a reason I enlisted 26 years ago.
America is a nation of immigrants.
And we have every right to decide who gets to come here and when. Deal with that.
Don't most Democrats (at least the ones posting here) consider any red state, especially in the Deep South, a shithole?
That is the gist of their posting here on red states.
I won't sugar coat this. You and many republicans are actively trying to defend what Trump said, by denial or deflection. He is a racist and I say that because of everything I've seen, heard, read and observed for over 40 years. Now he is a racist on steroids, giving other racists permission to come out in public. Republicans in congress are either LYING or making sure their heads are up Trumps ass far enough to inhibit hearing. The world sees what republicans are trying so hard to hide. Can't wait to hear Jeff Flake's upcoming speech on Wednesday.
It's an American tradition to accept immigrants and the right is always about American tradition and morals. Morally is it the right thing to do to turn away immigrants that are looking for a better life? Is that what JESUS would do? Never in a million years and you can damn sure bet he wouldn't turn someone away based on the color of their skin, which is EXACTLY what trump suggested.
No but you see ..... that's different ........
You've got the wrong man to illustrate 'truth'
You mean SELECTIVELY seen, heard, read and observed. Face it. You go about your day looking for something that the President said or did to call racist. Once you find it, you cling to it like a scared child to it's mother. It's also apparent that you have no willingness to work on a way ahead. You, just like many other liberals and democrats are much more content to continue to sit back and whine, cry and stomp your feet. And for what? Because you didn't get your way on election day? It's time you all grow the hell up and help fix the problem instead of BEING the problem.
Trump is the problem. So are his followers.
I don't know about that. He's done more in one year for this country that his predecessor did in eight. Not that you'd see it amidst your tantrums.
Because that's the plan. The last one didn't work out so well so piss and moan is the new plan to take the country. They still haven't figured out that won't work either. Not wilth the majority of us are not buying into the fundamentalist liberal/progressive nonsense they are trying to spread.
Not on my watch .... not a chance.
Right. We need Hillary./s
Like we need an incurable case of the clap!
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Shades of the "old" fish there.
Bullshit. Even Jesus knew multiculturalism wouldn't work. How many peoples did he instruct to go into a land that belonged to other people? Especially without assimilation. It has to be controlled to a large extent so as NOT to lose the identity of the host nation. Assimilation is the key and with the rampant influx we have here, we have and are losing the uniqueness that once was the United States of America. We are trying to accommodate too many different peoples and are losing our inherent values for the sake of said accommodation.
You're right there. It's the shit coated way of seeing the world that gives his despicable base their tiny stiffies.
This is the kind of believer bullshit that makes me want to ask: "where the fuck do you get this shit?" And then I realize I probably really don't want to know.
If I thought you would or even COULD I would ask you to point out one place where different peoples lived in harmony in the same country/territory in the Bible.
By way of immigration Law. The issue here is that we have always accepted immigrants - but not any and all immigrants.
Every nation on earth is a nation of immigrants - except for one or two on the African continent. The difference is that most nations accept on the immigrants that meet health, education and skill minimum requirements.
Likely you work somewhere - for someone in business to make a profit - or you know people that do. Does your employer hire anyone that has enough brainpower to open the front door - or do they expect certain quailities in their potential employees?
But I digress. Be honest for a moment - with yourself if you can't be honest with the rest of us. The only reason liberals are focused on admitting as many illegal immigrants as possible is that it's the liberal party's new voting base - the one they need to replace the traditional middle class voters they have abandoned.
There is no other logical reason to import people that are going on government supplied assistance.
True. Why run an immigration lottery to import poor people when we’re already bankrupting the country by supporting the poor people we already have?
LOL. At least he got more tee time in one year than Obama did in eight.
well
there is that
The man has his priorities. The entire world is lucky he was golfing while Hawaii was under attack from ballistic missiles.
It seems that they do. There are democrats in those states, too, though.
I think that every state has something to not be proud of-- something that was wrong. Right now, it's popular to denigrate the deep south. Yes, they have resisted change. Yes, they have a lot of catching up to do. But there are many nice people in the deep south that don't "hold" with that and are trying to make things better.
I've been to Texas, it is a shithole.
Not really, it this statement were true then half the people who came here in the past would never have been allowed in, that might include your ancestors.
Presidents and Foul Language
Let me fix that for you:
It's an American tradition to accept legal immigrants
No, it actually goes back to 1973 when Trump became president of his fathers business in New York.
Trump is a racist and, has always been a racist.
Um, Hawaii wasn't under attack from ballistic missiles.......So, in your world, he should be in Oval Office 24/7 just in case a false alert happens? I don't recall seeing your concern with President Obama's many outings.
EVERYTHING that you think Trump has done was because of Obama's policies, NOTHING Trump has taken credit for was done by ANYTHING that Trump has done.
I don't know, it seems that Jesus had a little more relaxed attitude than you do.
So you are saying he should have run as Democrat?
It would seem that Trump spends almost all of his time playing golf, not being president.
Oh now THAT is funny.
Speaking of "dog whistles", when a liberal starts hollering "racist" at conservatives it actually means "I have no intellectually driven rebuttal to offer and I'm frustrated".
Specifically - when Trump says "Let's put America first" the liberals are frustrated because they have no logical excuse for why their party insists on protecting illegal aliens at the expense of American citizens.
If you think it's funny, prove me wrong.
Where did I say that?
Your rather in-noteworthy opinion--and one not shared by MANY people who continue to flock to Texas for jobs and a lower cost of living.
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BullSHIT!
I quoted where you implied it. Do you see the "?" at the end of my sentence? That means that I'm asking a question. I'm asking, that, in your mind, would it have been more acceptable if he ran as a democrat? It would fit in with the tendencies we've seen from them.
Stock market hitting record levels. Barry had 8 years to do that. If they hit now because of Barry then why didn't he do it during his term? He could have set it up during the first 4 years and saw the result in the second half.
ISIS on the run. Funny how this President comes in, lifts suffocating Obama ROE restrictions and suddenly we are seeing success against them.
You are wrong again. There were guidelines for admitting imivrants into this country before. Hundreds of thousands were turned away from Ellis Island alone.
Duh. Thus we're all lucky that Trump was busy golfing rather than pushing his big button.
Of course if Hawaii really had been under attack Trump still would have been golfing rather than doing his job.
Yep, not everyone got in. For example, anarchists were turned away, so were people with a criminal record and folks who were considered of low character.
My Grandparents got in and gladly left their birth country behind. Much to our consternation they refused to speak their native tongue. We tried to get them to teach us and they would not. They were Americans now they would say, why would we speak Slovak?
So like many grand-kids of that era, the only Slovak we learned were swear words.
And, also, too it's racist as shit. And the people who give it a pass are racism enablers.
Really? So you're argument is to blame the messenger and not the source of the message?!.....Really?
That's exactly what it is.
I seeded an article about a person who has been in the US for about 30 years and is being deported. Many of the comments are like mine (No sympathy for him) And the liberals are the only ones trying to make it seem that this guy is a victim.
His comments weren't offensive just because he called some countries "shitholes". It was offensive because he said “Why are we having all these people from shithole countries come here?”. He made the statement that we don't want these people from these countries, not just that the countries happen to have some infrastructure issues. He then went on to ask why we can't just have immigrants from Norway and other predominately white countries, as if race is what makes those other countries "shitholes" and that people from white countries are somehow superior immigrants. Trump is a racist, but anyone with half a brain already knew that.
"I’ve got black accountants at Trump Castle and at Trump Plaza. Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes every day. Those are the kind of people I want counting my money. Nobody else. Besides that, I’ve got to tell you something else. I think that the guy is lazy. And it’s probably not his fault because laziness is a trait in blacks. It really is. I believe that. It’s not anything they can control."
“When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you. They’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists."
“You had many people in that group other than neo-Nazis and white nationalists,” Trump said. “The press has treated them absolutely unfairly." "You also had some very fine people on both sides,”.
"If you are saying: He can't do his job because of his race, is that not the definition of racism?" Jake Tapper
"But we're building a wall," Trump said. "He's a Mexican. We're building a wall between here and Mexico. The answer is: He is giving us very unfair rulings, rulings that people can't even believe."
"when Nigerians see America they never want to go back to their huts”
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A 33-year-old nurse who was living at the Y.W.C.A. in Harlem, she had come to rent a one-bedroom at the still-unfinished Wilshire Apartments in the Jamaica Estates neighborhood of Queens. She filled out what the rental agent remembers as a “beautiful application.” She did not even want to look at the unit.
There was just one hitch: Maxine Brown was black. Stanley Leibowitz, the rental agent, talked to his boss, Fred C. Trump.
“I asked him what to do and he says, ‘Take the application and put it in a drawer and leave it there,’” Mr. Leibowitz, now 88, recalled in an interview.
The rotten apple didn't fall far from the klan tree.
Sounds, according to your reply, that you seem upset that Trump said the countries (if he actually said it) were shitholes and don't seem to be disputing the fact that they are shotiholes.
So you are offended that he (supposedly) said it. Not the fact that many ARE.
I'm not upset at all, I expect this from the Racist in Chief. It's just another example of his hatred for the black and brown people who come from countries less advanced than our own. Like I said, the real racism in his comment was that he directed it at "these people", the immigrants trying to come and find a better life. He singled out the ones from black and brown countries as unwanted while saying he'd gladly accept white immigrants. I'm neither upset nor surprised by this, his history has shown who he is. It's sad that it turns out there are a third of Americans who have the same beliefs and continue to support and defend such blatant racism, that's the only thing that actually surprises me.
Any reasonable person can assess the fact that many countries around the world are not as advanced and are struggling with infrastructure problems as well as governance issues where their resources are often squandered or stolen. I'm not going to call them "shitholes" but I can see how some vulgarians might be of that opinion. The fact that this was our President saying it about many countries we are trying to work with is disheartening and embarrassing, but not unexpected from this brain dead bull in the global china shop. He has no tact, he is simply tacky. He has no class, he's a half wit bigot in a an expensive suit. He's sleazy, gaudy and an embarrassment to educated stable Americans who love this country and wish it didn't have to get dragged through the mud by such a crude bigot.
When one third, are actually still backing this bass ackwards while being up front
about it
it's difficult to dispute my moniker, not being a sad truth, that would unfortunately, be an accurate depiction of a deteriorated, disenfranchised, distinguished group, of those that have been duped.
And note that the DOJ had to go back to court a few years later to get the consent agreement enforced because Donald refused to abide by it despite having signed it.
On the other hand Trump had no trouble at all selling an apartment in Trump Tower to the brutal dictator of Haiti, Baby Doc Duvalier. So it's only black folks who aren't rich whom he really hates, and he doesn't give a crap where the rich folks get their money.
That racism card has been so overly-played it means nothing now. Just a dogwhistle.
Wow. 1973. Couldn't find something from this century?
Does this mean you never forgave Byrd?
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That's so cute !
Even fox fake news said it was true and trumps favorite group of idiots, fox and friends, said that he shouldn't have said it, and just three minutes later, trump sent out a tweet saying he never said it, (despite pretty much everyone in the room saying he DID say it, many times).
If Trump had apologized instead of claiming he had done nothing wrong, then worked the rest of his life in support of civil rights you might have a point. But he didn't, and you don't.
"I apologize for the characterization I used on this program ... The phrase dates back to my boyhood and has no place in today's society ... In my attempt to articulate strongly held feelings, I may have offended people."
"For the 2003–2004 session, the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP) rated Byrd's voting record as being 100% in line with the N.A.A.C.P.'s position on the thirty-three Senate bills they evaluated. Sixteen other senators received that rating. In June 2005, Byrd proposed an additional $10,000,000 in federal funding for the Martin Luther King Jr. National Memorial in Washington, D.C., remarking that, "With the passage of time, we have come to learn that his Dream was the American Dream, and few ever expressed it more eloquently." Upon news of his death, the NAACP released a statement praising Byrd, saying that he "became a champion for civil rights and liberties" and "came to consistently support the NAACP civil rights agenda"
And these countries are shit holes. Is it racist? Hell no. Maybe in the fragile little minds of those who are easily offended by, I don't know, EVERYTHING, it may be racist.
No, you'd still whine that he said it and then whine some more that he apologized for it. But if you haven't noticed, the Apologizer in Chief is no longer in office. Now we have somebody who doesn't play the soft skinned, water everything down so it's easier to take PC games. Oh, and yes, he's going to be here a while.
So you mean the fact that the only countries he mentioned just happened to be overwhelmingly black doesn't mean anything. Once again, we see how eager you people are to be lied to by the bag-o-shit you voted for.
Are the countries Paradise, where folks flock to vacation at ?
Such a conundrum.....was it about the color of the people, or the Actual status of the country.
No it doesn't. North Korea is a shit hole and it's not blacks running it.
But then again, I'm not shallow enough to use something as superficial as skin color to determine how I treat others.
I warned you elsewhere to knock it off with this 4th grade behavior. I realize you might have not seen my warning. I will not be so nice, if I see this again.
all apologies
don't believe ive posted till now since I read your warning
all in god fun though. I hold no ill will towards posters here and unfortunately/fortunately, have a habit of playing to any level
low or high
out
Political Correctness: noun - the avoidance of forms of expression or action that are perceived to exclude, marginalize, or insult groups of people who are socially disadvantaged or discriminated against.
I would think when we are trying to be diplomatic and get other countries to take our side in decisions and policy making, not marginalizing or insulting them would work better than being a general dick to them.
Tried that and more often than not they take the other side.
The watered down, soft spoken method of not hurting the thin skinned little people who can not handle brutal honest truth.
Then you go hold the hands of the likes of Somali pirates and Kim, Jun Un. I'll continue to live my life as I have for over 40 years and not care about how you are offended by mere words.
Saying a country is a shit hole in itself is not a racist comment. It was when he added that he would prefer to have immigrants from Norway that made it racist imo.
That only your sort seems to hear.
Norway isn't a race. It is a country.
Sorry, but NO.
Liberals throw the word racist around like candy. It has lost significance because of such overuse/misuse.
Like the boy who cried wolf.
I look at PC behavior as just being polite to others. Why would you denigrate those who are polite? Why is trying to live your life without going around hurting others a bad thing?
For the past 26 years my career didn't go well with the sugar coated, watered down PC speech the left wants everybody to use. For somebody in a leadership position in the military, that doesn't work. Now that I'm retired from that, yes, I've changed how I say things (stopped a lot of the cussing) but I REFUSE to dumb it down so much that the message is lost. There is absolutely nothing wrong with brutal, honest statement.
No it means the countries are shitholes.....you attach any further meaning to that statement solely with your opinion. Please regale us with the tales of how you selend your vacation time in Haiti.
When you are president of one of the biggest country's in the world, as Donald J. Trump is suppose to be, the words that come out of your mouth carry weight and, consequences, most of those "shithole" country's have U.S. troops in them for the purpose of fighting the war on terror, when the POTUS uses language like that when talking about our allies in a war it makes the leaders of those country's question whether they should be involved in our war. Now, if I were to say some country was a shithole country then that doesn't carry much weight and, won't have the same consequences as remarks from the POTUS does.
Because when you can't speak the truth for fear that someone somewhere MIGHT be offended over something you said, then that is just plain wrong. Problems in the world aren't solved by the perpetually-offended class. They are solved by people who recognize and aren't afraid to speak the truth.
"Supposed" to be?
Did you miss the fact that he IS the President?
That’s only if it’s a Republican. In Hillary’s case she has been lying and conniving for 40 years since watergate and continued to do it during the election. Yet liberals ignore it all saying that if she hasn’t actually been convicted of a crime, then nobody has proven a thing.
We don't, clue US All in
Liberals ?
So, We're in Haiti as part of the GWOT? What? LOL. And he made his statement, if he did say those words, in a closed meeting with sitting U.S. Senators that ran out like little children to tell everyone what they (thought) they heard. Where is your revulsion for Durbin?
and Trump has been at it longer your point being....
lets face it
we have a broken flawed two party system
and
until we do Election Finance Reform. we will continue to get the best $MONEY$ Lobbyists can BUY Candidates
Wake up America
Now that you mention it, why did Durbin run out of the meeting with the vapors over a shit hole comment? All he did was cause a controversy that stalled his own immigration agenda. Now the democrat dopes will have to threaten shutting the government down to get their way or DACA may be dead. I’m betting they don’t have the nerve to force a shutdown over this.
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Gee, shouldn't have Clinton won then, since she FAR outspent Trump?
Jeremy, You can be honest, but you can also be tactful. Am I supposed to go to my neighbor's house and tell them I don't want them in my neighborhood, because their color has a higher proportion of thieves and assaults than others, so get the hell out? Take a walk with me down my block. It's a typical block of single resident homes here in Louisville.
House #1 -- a retired black lady. She was a nurse at one of the local hospitals. Her grandkids come to visit and they seem to be well-behaved and polite. Do you want me to be brutally honest and tell her to keep her nappy-headed grandkids off my lawn?
House #2 -- a retired white lady, who worked in a department store all her life. She's buried 3 husbands, poor thing. You want me to tell her that she is obviously a black widow, and don't dare talk to my husband?
House #3 -- A Korean family. 3 kids. You want me to tell them that I know they eat dogs and if mine goes missing, I'm coming for them?
House #4 -- a white family from KY. He manages a body shop, so you know what crooks they are. Worse, his wife is a geologist. She is bereft of Godliness because she believes in evolution. They have one kid, who's a teenager. Who knows what he is up to?
House #5 -- a white family from France. Should I tell them that France sucks, as does everything to do with France and I call fried potatoes "chips", rather than use the word French Fries?
House #6 -- a black family. We don't want those around here!
House #7 -- a family, he's from Germany, she's from the states, some place up north. Shall I call him a Nazi, and her a Yankee? Don't worry about the fact that they're Jewish and he lost all his extended family in the death camps.
House #8 -- A single white mother and her 10 year old son. She's a dancer. Should I automatically assume that she is a pole dancer downtown at the Kit Kat Kafe? Actually, she is an instructor of ballet at the Louisville Ballet School.
You know what I say to my neighbors? Hello and how are you! Hope you're well! When problems arise, I don't generally say anything, or if I absolutely need to, I bang on their door and speak politely about the problem. I offer to help. There are ways of doing things and politeness is the key.
Honesty is important, but not brutal honesty. If you met me, out on the street, would you say, "I don't care if I meet you or not, but you look like Hell?" Probably. Remind me not to walk in your neighborhood.
There is no reason to automatically assume the worst about someone's character, just because they're not like you.
Great comment Dowser.
I'm with John
a thoughtful breath of fresh (so to speak) air on a smog blog
Good Post
your flattery will get you NO where
I'm not the Racist Liar in Chief
Thank you, both!
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Anyone who isn't offended is a racist enabler.
and who could possibly b silly enough as to call me one...gee I don't know
Man you are really reaching now. How you arrived at that conclusion from what Jeremy has posted here boggles the sane mind. I don't know him personally but from here but i do know a little about that from which he comes.
Some the best people i ever served with were "not like me." I bet Jeremy can say the same thing because he served a lot longer than i did. Why some folks insist on scapegoating people of different views, when they barely know them, is beyond me. Some kind of fucked up internet power trip i suppose.
I'm not sayiing that's what YOU are doing here but there are clearly others who are.
I wonder if you have the faintest notion for why these countries have so much poverty. Well, I don't really wonder at all. I'm sure you have no clue because to have one you'd have had to learn something about the world and that is obviously not the case. But that ignorance is beside the point which is that this country has always been a beacon for people who live in these countries. At one time Ireland was considered what your sort likes to call a shithole. For many early settlers from Merrie Olde England, their lives were a shithole there.
Like I said--liberals are mad that Trump said it (if he did)---not that what he said is true.
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Wanna try that again?
And like I said, you've established your bottomless ignorance on this (and every other) matter so no need to keep repeating it.
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Considering that it is standard liberal practice to call all those who disagree with them racist the word "racist" has become so overused and casually tossed around it is meaningless. Pelosi even called members of her own party racist with her "five white guys" comment.
she, or you and what the Fox "news" called them racist ?
If someone thinks somebody else is unqualified to do a job just because of skin color then I'd say that's racist.
Steny Hoyer was none too pleased with his fellow Democrat's comments regarding "Five white guys".
Gee, I wonder why?
I interpreted her comment as 'off color' so to speak, but why are "Five white guys", as they are not a proper proportioned segment of our society, to determine whom, and from where, and at what amount, peoples, from other countries should be allowed to enter this country. Last I checked, we were composed by over 50% women, and what, a quarter brown, and I don't know, about 15% Black ? So why is it 5 white guys should decide who gets a chance at the American dream ?
What about heritage ?
Those people were elected as our representatives. They ARE the ones WE chose to do that kind of decision-making for us.
Doesn't matter one little bit if they are white, green, black, brown, yellow or pink with purple polka-dots.
If only we were all color blind, no ?
Though, I would be concerned if we had a "pink with purple polka-dots" representative not under quarantine.
Well, at least you didn't attempt to say that the people making the decision aren't qualified to do so.
It's that or Nazi. Either way the impact is equivalent of a babbling child in mid temper tantrum.
Note that Mike Godwin suspended Godwin's law for the duration of the Trump regime.
Regime?
Is that what we are calling the duly elected President of the United States' Administration?
Tsk, tsk.
Don't you know that not accepting the results of an election is a serious threat to our democracy?
You're sounding an awful lot like Trump there. Most, even his biggest detractors, accept he won, Y hasn't he ??
He has, don't you remember him getting sworn in?
And signing bills--like the new tax bill?
You need to learn to be more respectful of the kleptocratic regime which is turning our country into a real shithole.
Yeah, very low unemployment, record-breaking stock market, new tax bill benefitting us all-----real shithole!
What has Trump stolen as President, and what evidence can you provide for such a wild claim?
Our moral high ground
I remember swearing, as he was sworn
in
If you feel you have lost your moral high ground, then that is a reflection on you, not the President,
Say what you will but I think the US still has the moral high ground compared to the lines of China, Russia or North Korea.
Donald Trump is a total embarrassment to the people of this country.
Some feel that way. Some do not.
Clinton's opportunity to turn the US into a distopia worse than N. Korea.
I haven't lost MY DAMN MORAL HIGH GROUND, the fricken LIAR IN CHIEF has lost it for All of US !
Trump’s racism is more than rhetoric – it forms policy and ruins lives
Sarah Kendzior is a St. Louis, Mo.-based commentator who writes about politics, the economy and media
No one should be surprised by Donald Trump's comments Thursday – denied by the President but confirmed by multiple senators – that Haiti, El Salvador and various African nations are "shithole countries" and that America should accept fewer immigrants from there and more from places such as Norway – a white-majority country admired by the Third Reich. There is a direct line from Mr. Trump's birtherism to his campaign launched on denigrating Mexicans to his tolerance of neo-Nazis to his latest vile remarks – remarks backed up by equally vile immigration and travel policies that are tearing U.S. families apart.
But just because you are not surprised does not mean you should not be alarmed. Mr. Trump is a racist. He has always been a racist. His first lawsuit over racial discrimination goes back to 1973 and was followed by decades of racist comments and actions. What has changed in the past two years is not Mr. Trump's racism, but American acceptance of white supremacist movements and the insertion of white supremacists into positions of executive power.
It's hard to believe, but as recently as the summer of 2015 declarations of rancid bigotry carried real consequences for Mr. Trump. When he proclaimed in June of that year that Mexicans were rapists and criminals, he was promptlyfired by NBC Universal due to his "derogatory statements."
But Mr. Trump and his extremist backers spent two years pulling the political fringes into the centre, shifting from insulting immigrants to praising neo-Nazis and indulging the Ku Klux Klan. Swift and vigorous condemnation of his bigotry became a rarity during the campaign as the media embraced Mr. Trump as a ratings bonanza. Consequences for his behaviour disappeared – and then, as President, he became able to better set the terms of any consequences he faced.
Having failed to hold Mr. Trump accountable for his bigotry, Americans are now stuck with him as President – and the priority should not be policing his profanity, but protecting the rights of non-white and non-Christian Americans. Some callously call his racist remarks a "distraction," ignoring that his racism underlies actual policy such as the DACA repeal and the Muslim travel ban. Mr. Trump's racism is not mere rhetoric; backed by a GOP that abides it, his racism ruins lives.
His racism is dangerous not only for immigrants and foreigners but for any American who is not white. For decades, he has described U.S. cities with substantial black and Latino populations – in particular, Chicago – in the samederogatory language he used on Thursday. Mr. Trump sees not only non-white immigrants but also non-white, native-born U.S. citizens as people who do not belong in his America. In his mind, being American is synonymous with being white. This view came through most clearly in his years-long crusade against president Barack Obama, whom Mr. Trump insisted must be a foreigner – admitting only in 2016 that Mr. Obama was an American. But one can also witness it in his attacks on other non-white citizens he deemed either illegitimate, such as Mexican-American Judge Gonzalo Curiel, or unpatriotic, such as the numerous black celebrities he berates.
After his comments spurred an outcry on Thursday, CNN reported that White House staffers were pleased, as the xenophobic attacks would resonate with Mr. Trump's base. While this is likely true and is disturbing in its own right, the broader implications are also concerning. Mr. Trump is the most unpopular president in U.S. history, with a 67-per-cent disapproval rating, and his base issmall and shrinking. Only 26 per cent of Americans voted for him, and the number who remain hard-core supporters is likely much lower than that.
Mr. Trump's base may be overwhelmingly white, but by 2020 non-whites will be the majority of America's children. Given this shifting demographic, one would normally expect a president and his party to tone down racist rhetoric in a midterm election year and instead try to expand the voter base. That Mr. Trump remains blatantly racist shows not only personal mendacity but a lack of concern for the will of the public – a nonchalance best explained by the numerous suppression mechanisms the GOP has designed to disenfranchisevoters.
Mr. Trump and his backers have abandoned the idea that America is for everyone – a fundamental precept of the United States. Though this ideal has never been fully upheld in practice, it has never been so vigorously opposed, both in rhetoric and policy, by a president. Mr. Trump's racism is not new, but this anti-American presidency is.
I think most people forget that Trump was fired by NBC after he made his campaign announcement where he said Mexicans are rapists.
On the first day of his campaign he was fired by his network for making bigoted remarks.
But the depolorables had not yet made him their hero at that point.
Good one!
LMAO!
Trump is useful to the gop to sign their bills, thats it. If they could robotize a cadaver to do the same thing they would.
Given that the people who voted for him knew that he was the King of the Birthers, I suspect the WH is right about his racist and xenophobic base. They understand how important it is to agitate those who have unusually large amygdalas.
Our country is actually doing much better. The bitter and angry resisters know as the far left wing idiots are not.
So you say. I don't happen to believe that.
But they can't, and they didn't.
the cadaver would have been smarter
Well then, do tell, where I stated I lost MY moral high ground ?
Smart enough to get himself elected. More than most people can say.
That was in reply to your statement that Trump has lost our moral highground.
Chill out.
So that would make Obama at least twice as smart, right?
Gosh, does that mean Obama is only as smart as Richard Nixon, Ronald Reagan, and GWBush?
And Obama was smarter than Lincoln?
so u apparently have a comprehension issue, that I'm apparently so hot about, I need to chill out, about
it.
sorry Texan
perhaps we got off on the wrong foot
so maybe you should remove it
the cadaver that was smarter than Trump
Remove it yourself if you have a personal problem with it.
So elect a cadaver next time---you almost did last time, but not quite.
They'd prefer that, they wouldn't have to work so hard and lying and apologizing.
It's exactly what the right called the Obama admin for 8 years... NOW all the sudden you don't like it?
True, one can not lose that which they never had.
I call bullshit on THAT!
Knock it off Norman. Most of your comments are in the realm of taunting.
Uh-oh, Davey Busted a Caps Lock on ya! Fights on! LOL
Asked what he thinks about people who think he is racist, Trump said, "No, No. I am not a racist." He told reporters: "I am the least racist person you have ever interviewed. That I can tell you."
It is not credible for Trump to say that he is the least racist person. In fact it is ridiculous. As long as you don't care that your man is a complete jackass, you will always have trouble keeping your cool on these accurate threads that call him out.
put your Caps Gun down recess is over
It might have to do with the standard rightwing practice of racism or, at least, the support and encouragement of it.
This is a chart of the number of Haitian immigrants living in the United States. The 676,000 represents about 1/50 of all the foreign born population living in America. The greatest influx, proportionally, appears to have taken place during the Republican administrations of the 80's.
https://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/haitian-immigrants-united-states/
So then you agree it is long past time that some Administration, be it Republican or Democratic, finally curtail some of the flow of immigrants from Haiti?
You think 676,000 Haitian born people living in America is too many? And the great majority of them live in New York and Miami.
I think it is enough.
I don't think so many people come here from Haiti or Africa that it makes it worthwhile for trump to embarrass himself and the country in this way. But then again he can't help himself, he's an asshole. That is what his "fans" fail to account for. He's an asshole that most of them wouldn't even want for a personal friend.
So elect someone new in 3 years.
I don't think we should wait three years, but if that's what happens we will deal with it.
"Deal with it" ?
Hope it is better than how some have "dealt with it" for the last year.
No one should ever "normalize" Donald Trump. Not now, or ever. He is an extreme narcissist, bully, pathological liar, crook, swindler, fraud, and sexual harasser. He has no more business being president of the United States than you or I do.
But he is your President, and was elected.
Campaign time is over--let's get to work.
lol. Unlike some Republicans , when I say never Trump I mean never trump. He's not qualified to be president of the United States and should resign tomorrow morning.
And it's not really ideological. I know Pence is just as conservative as Trump, if not more so.
Trump will not be around in three years and with any luck, not around in three months
Democratic predictions regarding Trump have been woefully incorrect. You might want to stop with them while you are already behind.
Wake up!! Trump isn't going to resign, so you might as well forget that nonsense.
I know, there are 35% of you that make up the deplorables that cannot deal with the reality of Donald Trump. He has been an asshole , liar and bully for decades. And you VOTED for him. Shame on you.
There is a female Hatian republican in congress right now... Ya know, your right, lets get rid of her.
So U 'think' Trump, and his backers, who are laughingly so up front in their defenses, of an out and out blatant proven pathetic pseudo truth purveyor of pre pubescent incessant offensives, is a true leader who lies every day and night, is worthy of representing the greatest country in this modern day world,do you ? It speaks multitudes, of how your social insecurities rule over your abilities to logically deal with an emotionally disturbed extremely poor excuse for a human being, let alone a blatant RACIST FCKN LIAR and 'leader of the free world'!
You, as well as so many others, are a product of manipulation, and deserve all of our sympathies, not on of my rantz, TOO BAD.
Three months from now Trump will still be POTUS and crackpot liberals will be saying he'll be gone in three months ..... three months later Trump will still be POTUS and the crackpot liberals will be saying he'll be gone in three month ...... and the liberal crack-pottery wheel goes around and around and around .......... spin another yarn if it helps you sleep at night crack-pots.
You're still batting zero on Trump but what the hell eh?
No sense talking to you any further when A) you put words in my mouth or B) you fail to comprehend what I actually wrote.
That sounds EXACTLY what someone who voted for the loser would say.
sorta sad, you don't realize who voted for 'the loser'
Pssst......hey.....hey you.......yes, you.....there was an ELECTION in November 2016.
The winner resides in the WH, while the loser resides in Chappaqua.
I am sorry, but WTF does your little rant have to do with Democratic "predictions" regarding Trump being woefully inaccurate?
That opine speaks volumes
The truth does tend to do that, right?
Perhaps a little look at what actually has gone on would help?
LOL.
So it was great under Obama, but you think it sucks under Trump?
WTF??
Were you one of the idiots who cashed out of the stock market because Democrats kept telling you that under Trump, the stock market would crash, unemployment would skyrocket, and we would be in WWIII now?
LMFAO!
Are you one of those idiots who think the stock market is an accurate reflection of the economy or one of the idiots who chest-thumped about the market bubble GW Bush created with exactly the same fiscal policy and legislation back in 2001? Or both? Do you remember one of the definitions of insanity?
No, I am one of the SANE people who think that I know better how to spend my OWN money than the government does, and am appreciative any time I get to keep more of what I EARN.
Which is what is happening.
Democratic predictions sure are a hoot, though!
Got any more we can laugh at?
Are yoi not pleased with the stock market performance under Trump?
Pleased? Perhaps another 'legitimate question' would be..........."Do you trust the stock market under Trump?"
Well. that certainly didn't answer what I asked, but thanks for the old college try.
On the basis of it being such a tiny number, right? And then you people whine about the racist label.
Seems like we have accepted enough, don't really need more. Most American citizens feel the same way.
The rightwing seems to need to create these myths no matter (or in spite of) how much reality makes them look ridiculous.
Haitian population of US = .2% of the total.
Rightwing supporters of "president" Shitbag = 38% (latest Gallup)
That tells us what we've got too many of and it aint Haitians.
Let me approach this from a different angle, putting aside the dehumanizing portion of the comment.
Mr. Trump considers himself the consummate businessman (although his success at the expense of creditors, suppliers, bankruptcy courts and employees may belie that notion), by his estimation at least. Although they have already made great headway assisting the economic development of Africa, Mr. Trumps latest diatribe has basically handed the African continent along with mineral rights and future growth to the Chinese.
Having spent my entire career in the wonderful world of business, the first rule of order is that one does not insult a potential client, economics 101.
Whether Trump is a racist I will leave for others to decide, he has consistently proven himself a jerk and that is not an alternative fact.
Isn't it really each country in Africa's decision to do what they want?
If they are going to get their panties in a wad over this, so be it. Want to bet they don't ever turn down a penny of US aid?
Y would they ? Would Trump, your hero, turn down free money yea right
WHAT ?
Knock it off you two, with this 4th grade exchange. It is a waste of bandwidth. Only warning.
It is a little bit of biting the hand that feeds you when they complain while cashing our checks.
You know--like all the Hollywood types talking about global warming while flying their private jets to conferences and living in 5,000+ square foot mansions.
Why don't we find out how long it would take all of them to fall into the hands of terrorists if we stopped having them as "allies." Do you really think we supply them with weapons and other goodies out of the goodness of our heart? You people think you're so savvy and you're as naive as one-hour old kittens.
You continue to be a source of much amusement.
Thank you!
Bah, the fact is, people who hate Trump will find fault with everything he does, why we continue this mindless, endless argument with each other is a mystery, but I suppose it is entertaining... But not as entertaining as the last 10 seconds of the Viking game last night!!!!
The look on everyone's faces was priceless !
Vikings v. Patriots.
Go PATRIOTS. 6th ring on it's way.
Titans were up .... oooooohhhh..... beat- en too.
That's what happens to incompetent, lying shitbags like Trump--they fuck up everything they touch and people don't much like that--even some of the minority of Americans who voted for him.
Although Trump’s characterization of some countries as “shit holes” is obviously offensive, it’s not necessarily racist. According to the Oxford dictionary, a “shit hole” is vulgar slang used to describe a place that is “extremely dirty, shabby, or otherwise unpleasant.”
I wouldn’t be surprised if Trump thinks Zamunda is an actual country in Africa or that the entire continent looks like a scene from an old Tarzan movie from the 50’s. Nevertheless, quite a bit of it could be considered a “shit hole” by western standards.
A ghetto can also be considered a shit hole. Why? Because it’s an awful place to live compared to almost everywhere else. Nobody would move into a ghetto and almost everybody would get out of it if they could. If Trump described a ghetto as a shit hole, he’d be called a racist. However, if he were black and said the same thing (or something similar) or if a middle class black man said that a shabby hillbilly trailer park is a shit hole, nobody would assume that racism had a thing to do with it.
Still, I would prefer that Trump had a filter so everything he thinks doesn’t tumble out of his mouth as though he’s a drunk sitting on a bar stool. My mother used to say that there’s a time and a place for everything. A meeting with legislators was neither the time nor the place for his comment . . . he should save it for Melania, when he tells her how she was born in a shit hole.
As long as you ignore the fact that each country named has dark skinned people right now. I consider Russia a "shithole" country because it's run by a fascist (and Trump buddy).
The world is full of shit holes. However, the issue at the time was the current diversity immigration lottery that specifically targets Africa. Any discussion on continuing or discontinuing it necessarily affects dark skinned people.
And, again, he only seems to mention the ones with dark-skinned people. Keep on trying though.
Racism:
Did something explode in your pants, norm?
The racism---it is strong.
The concept of racism on the part of any human, defies logic ( that never happens).
Human History (the scientific version) tells us that our oldest ancestors bones ( Lucy over 3 million yrs. old) were found in Ethiopia. Now the last time I glanced at an atlas, Ethiopia was situated in Africa and unless something has changed, there it sits today. It is from that point that mankind migrated hither, tither and yon.
By virtue of this, it would indicate that as a wise man once said, we all have a dash of the tar brush in us. That is to say that we are all cut from the same cloth, therefore to indulge in racism of any sort, is to engage oneself in some type of perverse self loathing I would suppose.
Something to think about
When humans migrated out of Africa, they “bumped” into Neanderthals. To my knowledge, the only humans who lack Neanderthal DNA are sub Saharan black Africans. So if they really wanted to make an issue out of it, I suppose those blacks can argue that they are the only true humans and everybody else is a mutt.
That appears to be the current consensus.
good post
Trump is exactly the same person he was fifty years ago. Under performing, over privileged, egotistical, sexually insecure and morally inept. Let Trump be Trump. He is now in 'the perfect position' to consume himself into himself.
Does Melania secretly cry?
Perhaps but i know for sure that Bubba does. Probably every night he has to be around the old sea hag.
Poor SOB.
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