Associated Press, NYT Torpedo Democratic Narrative On Government Shutdown
Two meteors fell yesterday. Tim covered one of them; the government has been shutdown after the Senate failed to cobble enough votes to pass a stopgap measure to keep its doors open. Nancy Pelosi of course attacked the Trump White House (via Roll Call):
The Senate on Friday failed to cut off debate on a House-passed bill that would avert a government shutdown and extend funding another four weeks, setting into motion a lapse of appropriations under a unified Republican government.
Lawmakers spent the day trying to negotiate a deal. Democrats huddled as a conference prior to the vote, while several GOP members met in Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell’s office. White House Legislative Affairs Director Marc Short traversed the Capitol throughout the night to meet with House and Senate leadership offices. But in the end, the Senate was unable to muster the 60 votes needed to cut off debate on the measure, falling short, 50-49.
McConnell voted against the measure so he could bring the measure back up for reconsideration.
The other event is that the Associated Press and The New York Times called out the Democrats for being responsible for the shutdown. Some left wing publications were not happy.
After a continuing resolution to keep the government open was passed in December, Democrats signaled that they would not be supporting future spending bills, even clean ones, until FISA, Children’s Health Insurance Program, and DACA were addressed. FISA is all but a done deal. CHIP is funded for six years with the House spending bill that passed on Thursday, and DACA doesn’t come to a head until March. President Trump issued a six-month enforcement delay on DACA when he decided to wind down the program gradually in September of 2017, citing the Obama-era program is constitutionally questionable. The delay was meant for Congress to get DACA right. Everyone wants to do something for this program’s who 800,000 recipients. The issue here is that Trump wants a wall. No wall, no deal—that’s the mantra.
Democrats have a) have longed called government shutdowns irresponsible, directing their attacks at Republicans; b) they’ve said that trying immigration to budgetary matters is just an exercise in chaos. Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-NY) said that in 2013 during the debt ceiling negotiations. The latter is the audible here. Democrats want a DACA deal first. It’s dealing with greedy, spoiled children when it comes to the Democrats. They’re getting everything they want. The only problem is that they don’t like the order in which to tackle these items by Senate Republicans. That’s absurd. Luckily, the Times and AP cite who really deserves the blame for this shutdown—and it’s not the GOP. Five Democrats broke ranks to vote for the measure. Even The Times’ Jonathan Martin noted that it’s hard to call this a GOP shutdown when most of the Senate GOP caucus and five Democrats voted to keep the government open. https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2018/01/20/associated-press-nyt-torpedo-democratic-narrative-on-government-shutdown-n2437216
“It’s dealing with greedy, spoiled children when it comes to the Democrats. They’re getting everything they want. The only problem is that they don’t like the order in which to tackle these items by Senate Republicans. That’s absurd. Luckily, the Times and AP cite who really deserves the blame for this shutdown—and it’s not the GOP.”
Democrats holding America hostage for illegal aliens day one.
1. First shutdown in modern history with one party in control of all branches
2. First shutdown to start on anniversary of inauguration
3. Earliest shutdown ever in a presidency
The GOP is now furiously spinning. Trump kept repeating how a shutdown will hurt our military.
You're forgetting someone in the modern history unless you are claiming that modern history is only AFTER 1981, AMac: Jimmy Carter.
Check the historic reality, Tom.
Jimmy Carter had a shutdown in 1980, and Democrats controlled the House and Senate at that time. Just look at the links I posted.
EDIT: Granted that shutdown was regarding the FTC and only affected the FTC, but it did have 1600 Federal employees sent home. Democrats at the time had 58 Senators and 277 Representatives. So, your Vox link ignored it.
A majority of Congress supports the CR and the six year extention of the CHIP progam. Only a democratic filibuster stands in the way of funding children's health insurance.
Rememebr that the next time they claim how important children's insurance and how kids will immediately die without it.
It will be remembered. Senate democrats are holding American families and children hostage in favor of illegal aliens they want as future voters.
Trump: Shutdown is Dems' revenge; 56% say DACA not worth itSaturday, January 20, 2018 | Michael F. Haverluck (OneNewsNow.com)
Donald Trump 1President Donald Trump is crediting what he considers stubborn and vengeful Democrats with the government shutdown that began at midnight Saturday morning – and 56 percent of Americans agree that Dreamers’ amnesty is not worth shutting down Washington.
“President Trump on Saturday morning continued to blame Democrats for forcing a government shutdown overnight, arguing his opponents are ‘far more’ concerned with illegal immigration than the U.S. military and protecting the country’s southern border,” Fox News reported.
Many Americans appear to be on Trump’s side regarding Democrats’ forced government shutdown over their obstinance to push Obama’s DACA (Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals) program forward and give 800,00 young illegal aliens amnesty – a concession Democrats want the president to make … if he wants funding for his 2,000-mile long U.S.-Mexico border wall.
Dems playing hardball
Not going to sleep Friday night, Trump stayed up Saturday morning – which officially marked the anniversary of his first year in office – to tweet his millions of followers that Democrats were more interested in pushing their leftist immigration agenda than keeping the United States running smoothly and safely.
“They could have easily made a deal, but decided to play Shutdown politics instead,” Trump tweeted early Saturday morning. "Democrats are far more concerned with Illegal Immigrants than they are with our great Military or Safety at our dangerous Southern Border."
In fact, while blaming the Democrats for the failed talks, he called the government shutdown a “nice present” from the leftist party to mark the anniversary of the beginning of his first year in the Oval Office.
“This is the One Year Anniversary of my Presidency and the Democrats wanted to give me a nice present. #DemocratShutdown,” Trump tweeted early Saturday morning.
The failure of Republicans and Democrats in Congress to come together before midnight on a temporary spending bill means that the federal government does not have the funds to keep things running, so a number of services and agencies must now temporarily shut down, with some “non-essential” federal employees being put on furlough for the time being.
Things have been tight in the nation’s capital, as the GOP found that its narrow manpower edge was not enough to keep things running, but the rival parties are still plugging away today to reach an agreement.
“The GOP-led House passed a temporary spending measure earlier this week, but it failed in the Senate, where the Republican Party has just a 51-49 member majority,” Fox News’ Joseph Weber noted. “Members remain on Capitol Hill for a rare Saturday session to try to reach a deal and reopen the government, but procedural moves in the Senate will likely mean no final resolution until at least Monday.”
Trump took to Twitter again Saturday morning to inform the public of the Republicans shortfall last night, and took the opportunity to encourage voters to take to the polls in the future if they truly want to see his conservative agenda move forward.
“For those asking, the Republicans only have 51 votes in the Senate, and they need 60,” Trump told his Twitter followers Saturday. “That is why we need to win more Republicans in 2018 Election! We can then be even tougher on Crime (and Border), and even better to our Military & Veterans!”
The major hang-up for the shutdown is said to be the refusal of Democrats to give up their promotion of illegal immigration through former President Barack Obama’s DACA program – which would call for 800,000 young illegal aliens to be granted amnesty, which many Republicans believe would be an added strain on taxpayers, increasing crime and the welfare state in the U.S.
“Republicans have said the stalemate is essentially the result of Democrats wanting the temporary bill to include protections for illegal immigrants brought as children to the United States, considering Trump is winding down Obama-era protections from deportation under the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program,” Weber pointed out. “Democrats have said Republican proposals have also come up short on funding for such concerns as the opioid crisis and hurricane disaster relief for Puerto Rico.”
The build-up and repercussions of the shutdown
In the early hours of the fifth government shutdown since 1990, Vice President Mike Pence blasted Democrats for their blatant disregard of national security, echoing his earlier concern about soldiers’ salaries when he met with military personnel from the U.S. Armed Forces as he made a brief stop at Ireland’s Shannon Airport on the way to Egypt, where his weekend Middle East trip commenced this morning.
"You have troops headed down range to Kuwait for six months and they are anxious about the fact that they aren't going to get paid right away," Pence informed reporters in Ireland. "It's unconscionable."
Even though things appeared hopeful early on in the negotiations between Republicans and Democrats on Friday, neither party ended up budging as the clock’s hour hand approached midnight.
“A deal had appeared possible Friday afternoon, when Trump seemed to be close to an agreement with Democratic Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, (D-N.Y.), on a measure to prevent the expulsion of undocumented migrants who arrived in the country as children,” Newsmax reported. “But no such compromise was in the language that reached Congress for a stopgap motion to keep the government open for four more weeks while a final arrangement is discussed – and Republicans failed to win enough Democratic support to bring it to a vote.”
Trump’s spokeswoman, Sarah Huckabee Sanders, blamed Schumer for the government shutdown and insisted that the Democrat would never come to an immigration agreement until Congress agrees to continue normal government spending.
"Senate Democrats own the Schumer Shutdown," Sanders proclaimed, according to Newsmax. "We will not negotiate the status of unlawful immigrants while Democrats hold our lawful citizens hostage over their reckless demands."
While Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) also blamed the Democrats’ unyielding immigration agenda for the shutdown, Schumer disagreed, pointing his blame on Trump for misleading him that he would get Republicans to embrace DACA.
"Every American knows the Republican Party controls White House, the Senate, the House – it is their job to keep the government open … It is their job to work with us to move forward," Schumer orated to the Senate, after the 50–49 vote was announced, claiming that he was willing to discuss funding the border wall. "Even that was not enough to entice the president to finish the deal."
Shutdown over Dreamers unwarranted
Poll results released Friday show that most of America agrees that Democrats’ willingness to shut down the government over their relentless desire to grant amnesty to 800,000 illegal immigrant Dreamers – through Obama’s DACA program –is not responsible or called for.
In fact, 56 percent of Americans would prefer that the federal government remain open, rather than Congress coming to an agreement to continue DACA.
"Still, 56 percent overall say approving a budget agreement to avoid a shutdown is more important than continuing the DACA program, while just 34 percent choose DACA over a shutdown,” the CNN poll revealed. “Democrats break narrowly in favor of DACA – 49 percent say it's more important vs. 42 percent who say avoiding a shutdown is the priority – while majorities of both Republicans (75 percent) and independents (57 percent) say avoiding a shutdown is more important."
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baby feet. https://www.onenewsnow.com/politics-govt/2018/01/20/trump-shutdown-is-dems-revenge-56-say-daca-not-worth-it
A majority of Trump voters polled before the election and in April expressed support for DACA, the Obama-era program to shield illegal immigrants who arrived in the U.S. as children, from deportation.
Support for DACA nation wide is over 80%.
I too support DACA along with an end to the lottery and chain immigration, and beginning the building of the border wall. The next attempt to end the Schumer Shutdown should include both DACA and all the GOP immigration items above as well.
OHHH! Alien invaders! Link?
Yes even us 'socialist/progressive/democrats' understand that a wall that Trump PROMISED would be paid for by Mexico doesn't require tax payer funding.
You mean the one Mexico is paying for? Oh wait, that's right, trump asked the US TAXPAYERS for 18 billion to build his retarded wall. And it makes perfect sense too... Lower taxes decreasing the feds income, then turn around and spend more money... A 4th grader could tell you what happens when you decrease income and increase spending. No wonder trump filed for bankruptcy 6 times....he is an idiot.
Really? When?
"We can't just pick up our toys and leave," said Marchionne in reference to the possibility of leaving Mexico. #NAIAS2017
"It's possible , if the economic terms imposed by the U.S. administration on anything that comes into the United States that, if they're sufficiently large that it would make the production of anything in Mexico uneconomical," said Marchionne. "We would have to withdraw. It is quite possible. "
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Oh and BTFW, I'm quite sure that when Trump promised that Mexico would pay to build the wall, his supporters didn't think it was going to be in lost jobs and wages.
Pffft.
Please post the bill for that proposal. Or maybe you can point out the place in Trump's budget where he cuts off funds to Mexico? Why wait? Why demand millions in tax payer funding?
As for' applying the funds we provide to Mexico the build the wall', it would take about 50 years of funding to achieve that. Trump's budget asks for 4.1 BILLION in two years and our aid to Mexico is about an quarter of that.
Since I'm not a 'brain dead socialist/progressive/democrat' I'll ask you to post some empirical proof.
From your link:
So that's NOT making Mexico pay with 'loss of jobs and wages'.
From your link:
No proof Mexico is paying for anything. No proof of job or wage loss. Fail.
Then WHY start out you initial comment with stating that Mexico will pay for it?
Nope, I merely used it as a vehicle for asking for facts.
Then it will take over 100 years to build.
MAGA! /s
Is Malaria Trump included in that statement? She violated her visa in 1995, which makes her an, "ILLEGAL ALIEN INVADER", correct?
Point to consider: Some estimates are that illegal aliens cost this country (federal and state govs) as much as $116 million every year. Now, that number is based on estimates by a group that wants to limit immigration. So, fine, they have a bias, but no one else is putting the effort into estimating the costs. So, let's not accept them at their word. Let's say the cost is only 1/6th of that. That would still be over $19 billion dollars every year versus a one-time expense of $18 billion plus far less annually going forward for maintenance.
That sounds like a wall that - no matter who pays for it - will pay for itself in a year and help states and the federal government realize profits going forward. Doesn't that sound like a good deal?
Question: If it were free, would you still object to it? Why?
Citation on that?
The damn gop controls all branches of government so the damn gop must take responsibility for the disfunction of our government and especially for this shutdown. Just watch the gop fold on this like a house of cards before very long...
Wrong. The GOP has a simple majority in the Senate. 51 members. They do not have a Super Majority. Thus they must rely on at least 9 Democrats to pass legislation.
Wrong again. The House voted with a pretty safe margin to pass the CR. No dysfunction by the Democrats affected it there.
Since the Senate requires 60 votes to pass legislation, and the GOP by count only has 51 Senators, the dysfunction lies in the Democrat's opposition. For this CR, 3 GOP Senators voted NO, one (McCain) did not vote, and McConnell voted no in a procedural vote. 5 Democrats voted yes. So even if McCain were present, and the 3 GOP Senators had voted yes, there would still not be enough support from the Democrats to pass it. THUS, this is entirely the responsibility of the Democrats for the dysfunction.
#SchumerShutdown
#MAGA
Yet they failed to negotiate in good faith to make that happen.
That's because the GOP House majority doesn't need to work with Democrats and they didn't.
Right because even though they KNOW that they need Democratic support, the GOP Senate isn't responsible to garner that support. /s
What you mean is that the GOP finally did not totally capitulate to the wants of the democrats while giving up their proposals entirely.
Capitulate? The GOP has multiple times now, submitted bills and changes to existing laws inside closed door sessions without inviting a single Democrat. And NOW they are whining that the Democrats won't play by the Republican rule book???
No, I mean what I said. Please do not presume to put words in my mouth.
I didn’t know we had 60 votes in the senate to prevent a filibuster. This is clearly to all with an IQ above room temperature the Schumer Shutdown.
5 Dems voted yes for the spending bill and 5 Repubs voted no so we have a Trump Shutdown. Period.
Maybe you don't quite understand how it works. For legislation like the funding bill, the Senate needs 60 votes, or a 'super majority' to pass.
Yes, I understand how it works, just noting that 5 republicans voted for the shutdown, either no one owns it or everyone owns it.
By the way, DACA has NOTHING to do with the funding bill and should in fact stand o n it's own.
Maybe you're addressing someone else, I didn't mention DACA.
Xenophobes and assorted haters only respond to bigot-talking points!
Ignorance ain't bliss …
It's outright blind stupidity!
Instead of the Joseph Goebbels bullshit, right-wing propaganda … try some REALITY!
It’s not just the Dreamers who stand to lose from the Trump administration’s decision to rescind the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrival Program; it’s the U.S. economy as a whole.
The economy could lose out on about $280 billion if the Trump Administration deports the nearly one million undocumented who qualified for the program, according to a January 2017 study from the CATO Institute.
The GREAT WHITE DOPE panders to the worst and ugliest "minds" among us.
Stop shouting in here. Grow up.
Is that all ya’ got?
Rebut the content of you can and don’t sweat the style!
Here's the problem with your statement. The Trump administration doesn't want to deport them. Trump wants DACA as a law. The way it should be. So he canceled the Executive Order with a deadline of March. 6 months for Congress to work it out. And he actively participated in the negotiations for it. Remember the alleged "Shithole Countries" comment? That was made in the negotiations of DACA.
The problem many here have is that they don't take the time to actually learn what these discussions have involved. Everybody jumps on an alleged comment. Read between the lines. It's out there. Go back and read the articles about that alleged incident. Here is what you will find out. The Democrats want to include everyone in the TPS program in the DACA program. What's the TPS program? Temporary Protected Status. Refugees. From Haiti, and countries in Africa. The TPS program for many of them is running out. So they will be returned to their countries. There are other programs they can apply for to stay, but the Dems want to just roll them into the DACA program. The Administration has said no. So the Dems are throwing a fit.
Additionally, the Administration wants the Border Wall included in the DACA bill. Again, the Dems are saying no.
So the issue with DACA is not about deporting Dreamers. It's about additions that both sides want that the other side is saying no to. This needs to be negotiated. Not acting like a bunch of Kindergartners and throwing a fit over like the Dems are doing..
This is what's so frustrating. The Dems really are getting everything - or close to it - that they have said they wanted. There's no reason to give Republicans a hard time on these issues except so they can continue to have something to complain about.
It's incredible. They are filibustering a bill whose contents they support 100% in order to shut down the government.
There's no other way to spin it, the democratic party just puts the interests of illegal aliens over American kids.
"There's no other way to spin it, the democratic party just puts the interests of illegal aliens over American kids."
And over American citizens with government jobs or who need Federal services. Despicable.
#SchumerShutdown
They are using the Schumer Shutdown in an attempt to muscle DACA into law without giving the GOP any of its immigration issues objectives.
All the pubs had to do was the right thing. Stop messing with Dreamers and make sure DACA stands without being tied to other crap. It's literally the only thing Pubs had to do, but even then, they couldn't be bothered to do the right thing one time, and so we have a shut down.
Democrats shut the government down to protect illegal aliens. It's that simply. Aliens don't get to demand handouts.
You need to get educated on who gets the handouts.
By far, DACA people are more productive.
Only a 5 time draft dodger would play the military card while taunting North Korea and puting 85,000 American service men and women in heightened peril.
California pays more out in federal taxes than it takes in.
What else ya’ bringin’?
California until 2018 has been a heavily subsidized State getting federal income tax revenues from elsewhere in the form of deductions to cover our ridiculously high income and property taxes and ridiculous high housing prices. California followed by New York are by far the biggest leech States in the Union.
You still have nothin’ ...
And the Eagles are going to the Suoer Bowl.
I am a life-long Philly resident and absolutely an Eagles’ fan!
That's actually false. Plus, it wasnt the Dems that killed CHIP. It was definitely the Pubs that did that.
. Plus, it wasnt the Dems that killed CHIP. It was definitely the Pubs that did that
The Democrats just filibustered a six year re authorization of CHIP as part of the CR. The Republicans overwhelmingly supported it. In fact, if the Democrats in the Senate weren't filibustering the bill that has majority support in both houses, the CHIP issue would be resolved.
Illegal aliens over insurance for children is how modern democrats roll.
Thanks!
A Philly primer.
Good for you and the Eagles, I hope you kick New England's ass.
The Vikings laid one of the all time eggs in this game. They were supposedly the number one defense in the league and their tackling was TERRIBLE, time after time they gave Eagles runners and receivers extra yardage by missing a tackle or being out of position.
One of the worst defensive performances ever in a playoff game by a supposedly great defensive team.
Thanks, JR!
The Republicans could have extended CHIP mints ago but chose not to in order to hold children hostage to get Trump’s wall.
Insidious bastards!
could have extended CHIP mints ago but chose not to in order to hold children hostage to get Trump’s wall.
What are you talking about?
The funding for the CHIP program has nothing to do with the wall. Democrats aren't objecting to the contents of the CR, which doesn't include funding for the wall. They are trying to hijack CHIP funding with their gift to illegal aliens.
You haven’t been paying attention, Sean. DACA and CHIP are both hostages; every talk of compromise coming from Republicans comes down to funding for the wall.
Get away from Fox and listen to what is actually being sought by Trump.
Amac, you aren't entitled to make things up. The CR that a majority of congress suports doesn't include funding for the wall. Pretty much everyone from both parties supports what's in it, including funding for CHIP.
The fight is over what's not in the bill, but over protection for illegal aliens. Democrats are holding the CR, including funding for CHIP, hostage because they want to include a deal for dreamers in it. The shutdown has Nothing to do with the wall, you are being lied to, again, if you've read that on one of those extremist sites you seem to get your wilder takes from.
It's really simple, the shutdown fight is over what's not in the CR, not what's in it.
From your own source:
"but Democrats are withholding support unless Republicans agree to vote on an immigration bill with protections for immigrants who were brought to the U.S. illegally as children."
nothing about a wall as the reason they are objecting to the CR.
I’m De Captain Now! Republicans Hold 9,000,000 Kids Hostage With Likely Government Shutdown
If CHIP loses funding, the Republican Party is to blame.
A government shutdown looms, and the GOP’s solution has been to ask Democrats to choose between equally inhumane proposals. At Vox, Dylan Scott explains :
If Democrats reject this—and so far the party seems united in its determination to do just that—the government shuts down. Keep in mind that the Children’s Health Insurance Program, which provides health coverage to some 10 million kids, is nearly universally popular, and that extending it costs the government little; extending now, in fact, would actually save the government money . So the usual fiscal excuses don’t apply.
The GOP’s willingness to hold CHIP hostage is instructive: It opposes welfare for reasons that have nothing to do with the deficit. It’s easy to hold something hostage when you know it matters more to everyone else than it does to you.
Actually, HERE is the actual bill:
The one you posted was amended by the Senate and sent back to the House.
Just sayin'.
After reading and calling out so much BS on your part, perhaps
a gander inward.
No, I’m just describing how much the state we both live in truly sucks.
I guess the Vikings didn’t want to be the first team to lose 5 Super Bowls....
Eagles crushed em
All the Democrats had to do was vote for a bill whose contents they support 100%
And they fucked that up. They couldn't do the easy, simple thing and not filibuster a bill they support.
No border security additions, no end to chain migration and no replacing lottery with immigration that fits our needs, no DACA.
I believe in immigration reform. What if I persuaded my caucus to say, ‘I'm going to shut the government down, I am going to not pay our bills unless I get my way?’ It's a politics of idiocy, of confrontation, of paralysis.”
Chuck Schumer
Good old NY Chuckie.
Schumer is definitely a douchebag, but he also isnt president. No matter how ineffectual corporate democrats are, they can't match the ineptitude of the president.
Truncated, out of context, 5 year old 'quote'.
Yeah, but...the Republicans don't really control the Senate. They need 60 votes to do that. Perhaps if this goes on much longer, they should just change the rules to a simply majority. The Harry Reid Rule.