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Retired 4 Star General Says Trump Is A Threat To U.S. National Security

  

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Via:  johnrussell  •  6 years ago  •  123 comments

Retired 4 Star General Says Trump Is A Threat To  U.S. National Security




Reluctantly I have concluded that President Trump is a serious threat to US national security. He is refusing to protect vital US interests from active Russian attacks. It is apparent that he is for some unknown reason under the sway of Mr Putin.







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JohnRussell
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1  seeder  JohnRussell    6 years ago

Barry Richard McCaffrey (born November 17, 1942) is a former United States Army General and current news commentator, professor and business consultant. He received three Purple Heart medals for injuries sustained during his service in Vietnam , two Silver Stars for valor, and two Distinguished Service Crosses — the second-highest U.S. Army award for valor. [1] He was inducted into U.S. Army Ranger Hall of Fame at U.S. Army Infantry Center at Fort Benning in 2007. [2]

He served as an adjunct professor at U.S. Military Academy and its Bradley Professor of International Security Studies from 2001 to 2008. He received West Point Association of Graduates of the United States Military Academy's Distinguished Graduate Award in 2010. [3] [4] He is currently a military analyst for NBC and MSNBC as well as president of his own consulting firm, BR McCaffrey Associates. [5] He serves on many boards of directors of national corporations. He is an outspoken advocate for insurance parity, for drug courts [6] [7] and veterans' courts , [8] and is a frequent speaker at conferences. [9] [10] In March 2018 he issued a warning that United States president Donald Trump was under the sway of Russian President Vladimir Putin and that this was a dangerous threat for America's national security. [11] [12]

 
 
 
Rmando
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1.1  Rmando  replied to  JohnRussell @1    6 years ago

You forgot to add this part from his Wikipedia page:

"In April 2008, New York Times published a front-page report by David Barstow confirming that military analysts hired by ABC, CBS and NBC to present observations about the conduct of the war in Iraq had undisclosed ties to the Pentagon and/or military contractors.[60] McCaffrey was "at the heart of the scandal" detailed by Barstow.[61] In late November 2008, the New York Times published another front-page article by Barstow, this time specifically profiling General McCaffrey. It detailed his free movement between roles as a paid advocate for defense companies, media analyst and a retired officer."

Looks like the only time he's happy is when there's a war going on that he can make money off on the back end. No wonder he's disappointed Trump has started the war with Iran or North Korea. It must be costing him a lot of Benjamins.

 
 
 
Eat The Press Do Not Read It
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1.2  Eat The Press Do Not Read It  replied to  JohnRussell @1    6 years ago

It is about DAMN time. What the Hell is wrong with you GENERALS. Why would you get behind a known INTERNATIONAL CON ARTIST, SEXUAL PREDATOR, and empty headed Carnival Barker?

No wonder the Constitution calls for Civilian oversight of the Military.

 
 
 
Randy
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1.2.1  Randy  replied to  Eat The Press Do Not Read It @1.2    6 years ago

I couldn't agree more. I think that it is about time that more retired Generals who have proven their patriotism for this country prove it again by speaking out against what is happening with this obvious and sicking kow-towing and slavishness of this administration toward an enemy of this country bent on doing us harm and the dishonorable scraping and simpering attitude of this so-called President toward Russia's leader. He is shaming America on the world stage with his constant bowing down to and boot-licking of Vladimir Putin!

 
 
 
Randy
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2  Randy    6 years ago

Reluctantly I have concluded that President Trump is a serious threat to US national security. 

I concluded that long ago. Russia and Putin are at war with the United States. When we thought the Cold War was over we stopped, but they did now. Now Homeland Security and the FBI they have control of some of our power grid. Actual control if they wanted to push the buttons.Now think about that on election day if large parts of the country suddenly lost power? The chaos that would cause. Power loss in critical areas of the country that typically count for swing the election one way or another like Florida or Ohio. What would we do? Declare that their vote don't count and just go with the votes we got from the rest of the country? Hold a special election for them at a later date?? What later date? Is the person who got the later date the winner until the special election? 

Suppose it's a midterm like this years and the power goes out in areas where Putin doesn't like the odds of a party he does like gaining seats like Pennsylvania or Ohio?

But the biggest issue is what is Trump doing to protect us from this attack. What is Trump against these acts of WAR against America? What retaliation against Russia has he done? The truth is Russia is committing acts of war against us and Trump is doing nothing to protect us and is in fact accommodating them. He is on their side.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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2.1  Greg Jones  replied to  Randy @2    6 years ago
What is Trump against these acts of WAR against America? What retaliation against Russia has he done? The truth is Russia is committing acts of war against us and Trump is

What acts of war? Why do all the left wing nut jobs want a war with Russia?  Obama assured us that Mitt  was wrong and that thinking Russia was a threat was worn out 80's foreign policy. If Trump makes a big show of tough talk against Putin, the liberals will say he is edging us closer to war. A lot goes on behind the scenes that we never know about.

 
 
 
bugsy
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2.1.2  bugsy  replied to    6 years ago
Yeah, hacking our electoral process is fine when the Russians do it. /s

What did Obama do about it....especially since he was warned about it as far back as 2014? Was Obama a threat to national security? Let me help you with that one....yes.

 
 
 
MrFrost
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2.1.3  MrFrost  replied to  bugsy @2.1.2    6 years ago
What did Obama do about it

He threw them out of the country and imposed sanctions. A lot more than trump has done. It took him what, 6 months to even impose the sanctions that our republican congress passed. 

Trump has sent out 43 tweets bashing our intel community, (that's not counting all the times he has verbally bashed them).... Know how many he has sent out a tweet or verbally bashed Putin? 0. Not one. Let that sink in for a moment. 

 
 
 
bugsy
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2.1.4  bugsy  replied to  MrFrost @2.1.3    6 years ago

He did not do those things until AFTER the great loss of the unwashed Hillary; the Russians were doing things LONG before the election, and he  knew . If Hillary had won, do you think he would have done that?

Let me help you...NO!!

 
 
 
MrFrost
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2.1.6  MrFrost  replied to  bugsy @2.1.4    6 years ago
the Russians were doing things LONG before the election, and he  knew .

And what would you have said if Obama had said 6 months before the election, "The Russian's have been trying to influence our election process to help Trump win!!!"? Exactly, you would have called him a liar and that he was trying to influence our election process to help Hillary. That's why he DIDN'T say anything about it. You know that too, so quit the crying. 

 
 
 
Randy
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2.1.7  Randy  replied to  MrFrost @2.1.6    6 years ago

And when is Trump going to get around to imposing all of the sanctions that Congress voted on? So far the only ones he has imposed were the ones by Obama and the ones on those from the Mueller indictment. Other then that he has, as usual, rolled over like a whimpering dog and let Putin have his way. That's why Putin sees the whole Western world as weak and vulnerable. He knows he will have no trouble from Trump because either Trump is just a pussy (a Quisling), Trump supports what evil Putin is trying to accomplish or that Putin has something on him. 

 
 
 
lennylynx
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3  lennylynx    6 years ago

Donald Trump is as clear and present danger to the country.  He is a traitor in every sense of the word, and the entire Republican party are complicit in his crimes.  Perhaps most disturbing is that 40% of the country are still backing this maniac.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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3.1  Greg Jones  replied to  lennylynx @3    6 years ago

Actually, it's closer to hafl the country.Comment removed for CoC violation [ph]

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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3.1.1  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  Greg Jones @3.1    6 years ago

Lol.  crazy

 
 
 
MrFrost
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3.1.2  MrFrost  replied to  Greg Jones @3.1    6 years ago
Actually, it's closer to hafl the country.

You are mistaken. 

41.3%. Trump has never been above 46%. 

 
 
 
Randy
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4  Randy    6 years ago

I like the way that retired Intelligence Specialist John Brennan put it Saturday:

"When the full extent of your venality, moral turpitude, and political corruption becomes known, you will take your rightful place as a disgraced demagogue in the dustbin of history. You may scapegoat Andy McCabe, but you will not destroy America...America will triumph over you.”

The thrust is that Donald Trump is a Quisling (Trump voters may take a few moments to look the word up and then return and pretend that they knew what it meant all along) and noting less when it comes to Russia and Putin. The Russians are slipping the fingers into our computer systems and are taking control and still Trump denies what happened and does nothing at all to stop what his own intelligence agencies tell him is happening. In fact his war with the intelligence communities is another way that shows his weakness, either out of ignorance on on purpose in a Quisling manner.

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
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4.1  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Randy @4    6 years ago
I like the way that retired Intelligence Specialist John Brennan put it Saturday:

I got a chuckle when I read that yesterday as well.

I'll tell you what I do not find amusing, that is the gutless spineless GOP, who would put their STUPID PARTY OF GREED

Above America        WTF is wrong with these dix, The House GOP investigative committee has ruled against the findings of our own intelligence agencies, dismantled their probe without even informing their Democratic counterparts...

Republican clowns, by not standing up to Russia and Trump due to his agenda of greed, are going to be decimated in the mid-terms.

Fck this 2 party byullshit system !

ELECTION FINACE REFORM      We need real choice             The republicans have destroyed the party by not choosing country over corporate greed, have let their daze R numbered, as well as Trump's.

The Dems aren't innocent, and by offering up Hillary, prove our lobbyist brought forth Pols dancing around them, have forgot who they work for, but at least it's not Putin !

 
 
 
Randy
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4.1.1  Randy  replied to  igknorantzrulz @4.1    6 years ago
The Dems aren't innocent, and by offering up Hillary, prove our lobbyist brought forth Pols dancing around them, have forgot who they work for, but at least it's not Putin !

but at least it's not Putin ! That's the operative phrase right there. For the sake of Party unity they have unified behind a person who is either enthralled by Putin or whom Putin has some sort of blackmail material on and he is leaving us exposed to whatever Putin wants to do. The GOP seems to be willing to go along with this as long as they get their agenda passed, no matter what other damage to our country is done in the process. They have become the very definition of putting Party before country. Our own intelligence agencies say they have been able to get into 21 of our State's voting systems and into many of our electric grids and nuclear power plants to the point where they can shut them down if they want to. How much worse does it have to get before we realize that they have committed acts of open war against us and we do something about it?

 
 
 
luther28
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4.1.3  luther28  replied to    6 years ago
I am fully convinced that Russian interference and the Drumpf campaign collusion with them tipped the scales in their favor.

In my case, I believe what finally sent it Mr. Trumps way, was James Comey announcing another review of Ms. Clintons emails days before the election. I think that was enough for those sitting on the fence to either stay home or pull the lever for Trump. My take at any rate.

History will look back at this time period and wonder what madness took hold of the electorate.

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
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4.1.4  igknorantzrulz  replied to    6 years ago
She may not have been the best candidate ever, but virtually anyone would be better than what we ended up with. Another factor imo is 8 years of repressed racism came into play. A big part of Drumpf's campaign was a naked appeal to racists to "take their country back."

Was never a Hillary fan, but I knew who the fck Trump was, and convinced any and everyone I could, or at least tried, to warn them by abstaining or writing in a candidate, or the biggest sin of all, actually voting for the mental unstable Trump, would have serious detrimental effects on our country. Unfortunately, Trump has exceeded mosts' expectations',  in all the wrong ways.

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Hillary, the most investigated and trashed pol in history, would have made a fine POTUS, but with the GOP colluding with the Ruskies, convinced so many of our citizens that she was the anti Christ, that many could not think rational, or national.

I piss people off when I tell them they are responsible for Trump if they did not vote for Hillary, and ill continue to believe that, cause we had an obligation to do whatever we could to keep this unstable mess out of our WH.

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Trumps signature saying "Make America Sewer Grate Again" was just his way of saying "Make America White Again", cause after the GOP again put party above country in there non stop attack anything Obama, even if it was their idea first, was just troubling.

Our Country is in trouble, but there is awareness growing, but the damage done will take a decade or two to undo.

What a F'd up Failed experiment ignorance brought our country.

Betsy Devos has got the solution though...

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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5  Hal A. Lujah    6 years ago

Where are all of NT’s patriotic veteran Trump supporters?  Isn’t this another opportunity to show how you really feel about your country and those who have dedicated their lives to defend it?

 
 
 
Randy
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5.1  Randy  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @5    6 years ago

Apparently they lose all respect for this nations bravest and most genuine heroes when they speak out against Cadet Bonespurs. That's why I am hoping Gen. Mattis stays right where he is at Defense. I believe he is the only one who will stop that madman in the Oval Office when he finally throws a really bad childish fit and wants to launch a nuclear strike somewhere. Hell he'd probably want to launch it against Great Britain or Japan!

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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5.3  Greg Jones  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @5    6 years ago
Where are all of NT’s patriotic veteran Trump supporters?

It's more fun watching all the goofy liberal loons having a collective circle jerk this morning. Too funny!  Party crazy

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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5.3.1  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  Greg Jones @5.3    6 years ago

No, it’s because said morons are struggling every single day to combat those who they so desperately need to be on their side, but never will be.  It must be exhausting.

 
 
 
lennylynx
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6  lennylynx    6 years ago

Now don't you pay this no nevermind, righties, this general is obviously some sort of wild-eyed 'lib,' I mean, how can anyone in their right mind not see that Donald Trump is the greatest president America has ever had?  It's only those Marxist, socialist, communist, fascist, Nazi left wing loons who don't absolutely love Trump.  Those liberal polls are nothing but lies too; Trump's approval rating is at LEAST 75%.

GO RIGHTIES!!

 
 
 
luther28
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6.1  luther28  replied to  lennylynx @6    6 years ago

Be patient, they do not put the Kool Aid out until 10:00 am on the weekends.

 
 
 
Rmando
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6.1.1  Rmando  replied to  luther28 @6.1    6 years ago

No. It's just too early in the morning for left wing hysterics.

 
 
 
Randy
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6.1.2  Randy  replied to  Rmando @6.1.1    6 years ago

So do YOU think that General McCaffery is some wild-eyed liberal who just hates Trump because he is somehow an Anti-American leftist?

 
 
 
Dean Moriarty
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7  Dean Moriarty    6 years ago

We need to thank this never Trump political hack for helping motivate conservatives to get out and vote. He has been a big help to Trump even prior to his election. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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7.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Dean Moriarty @7    6 years ago

Dean, thanks for reminding us that McCaffery is objective.

"My public comments in the media on national security since leaving active service have tried to steer clear of partisan debate. I am not registered with either political party. I have worked with loyalty and genuine respect at very senior levels for both President George H.W. Bush and President Bill Clinton."

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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7.1.1  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  JohnRussell @7.1    6 years ago

I guess that hand out four stars to any old hack.

 
 
 
Dean Moriarty
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7.1.2  Dean Moriarty  replied to  JohnRussell @7.1    6 years ago

He’s deep state no doubt about it. 

 
 
 
Dean Moriarty
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7.1.3  Dean Moriarty  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @7.1.1    6 years ago

The fourth one must hold the key since Flynn has three. 

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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7.1.4  Greg Jones  replied to  JohnRussell @7.1    6 years ago

His opinion will not matter come election day, but all this negativity is certainly motivating Trump supporters to get out the vote.

 
 
 
MrFrost
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7.1.5  MrFrost  replied to  Greg Jones @7.1.4    6 years ago
but all this negativity is certainly motivating Trump supporters to get out the vote.

Yes because this admin is running like a finely oiled machine? This is the most fucked up admin in the history of the USA. But hey, if the fascists on the right love chaos, vote for him. 

 
 
 
Randy
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7.1.6  Randy  replied to  Dean Moriarty @7.1.2    6 years ago
He’s deep state no doubt about it.

So when did he become a part of the mythical "deep state"? Was it after his first Purple Heart and before his third? After his Bronze Star, but before either of his two Silver Stars? Perhaps it was after he was promoted from Brigadier General to Major General, but not yet to Lieutenant General? When?

 
 
 
Randy
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7.1.7  Randy  replied to  Dean Moriarty @7.1.3    6 years ago
The fourth one must hold the key since Flynn has three.

So Kelly is part of the "deep state"?

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
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8  igknorantzrulz    6 years ago

never seen someone get as many Russian Passes

 
 
 
Krishna
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8.1  Krishna  replied to  igknorantzrulz @8    6 years ago
never seen someone get as many Russian Passes

Putin obviously has something on Trump.

I imagine it will eventually be discovered, and revealed by Mueller.

I wonder what is is?

 
 
 
Rmando
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9  Rmando    6 years ago

Since we are putting generals on a pedestal and saying all their opinions are approve reproach, how about some love for Generals McChrystal, Petraeus and Flynn?

 
 
 
MrFrost
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9.1  MrFrost  replied to  Rmando @9    6 years ago
Flynn?

Proven and admitted liar. Heading for prison. No wonder trump liked him so much. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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9.1.1  Vic Eldred  replied to  MrFrost @9.1    6 years ago
Proven and admitted liar. Heading for prison.

If the same rules don't apply to McCabe, Trump has a clear moral right to pardon Flynn

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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9.1.2  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Vic Eldred @9.1.1    6 years ago
Trump has a clear moral right to pardon Flynn

Is that the moral right of "do unto others before they do unto you"?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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9.1.3  Vic Eldred  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @9.1.2    6 years ago

It's called fairness. If McCabe gets to walk, so should Flynn

 
 
 
Krishna
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9.2  Krishna  replied to  Rmando @9    6 years ago
Since we are putting generals on a pedestal and saying all their opinions are approve reproach, how about some love for Generals McChrystal, Petraeus and Flynn?

Sure-- why not? Flynn is already one of the "Witches" indicted by Mueller's increasingly sucessful "Witch Hunt".

(And he should be respected for that!):  Flynn pleads guilty to lying to FBI, is cooperating with Mueller

 
 
 
Dean Moriarty
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10  Dean Moriarty    6 years ago

His deep state involvement runs deeper than I originally thought. 

In April 2008, New York Times published a front-page report by David Barstow confirming that military analysts hired by ABC , CBS and NBC to present observations about the conduct of the war in Iraq had undisclosed ties to the Pentagon and/or military contractors. [60] McCaffrey was "at the heart of the scandal" detailed by Barstow. [61] In late November 2008, the New York Times published another front-page article by Barstow, this time specifically profiling General McCaffrey. It detailed his free movement between roles as a paid advocate for defense companies, media analyst and a retired officer. [60] An earlier report [62] with some of the same information had appeared in The Nation in April 2003 but was not widely picked up. Specifically, McCaffrey signed a contract with an undisclosed equity stake and retainer to represent Defense Solutions to American military leadership. Within days after signing the contract, McCaffrey sent a proposal directly to David H. Petraeus, then the commanding general in Iraq, recommending Defense Solutions and its offer to supply Iraq 5,000 armored vehicles from former Soviet bloc countries. Subsequently, McCaffrey would continue to advocate the Defense Solutions proposal over equipping the Iraqi Army with American-made equipment. [63] McCaffrey and his consulting firm BR McCaffrey Associates LLC responded to The Times piece, stating that he is "absolutely committed to objective, non-partisan public commentary." The response highlighted his military record, as well as his history of criticizing the execution of the Iraq War and specifically Rumsfeld . [64] Journalist Glenn Greenwald later wrote that there had been "extensive collaboration between NBC and McCaffrey to formulate a coordinated response to David Barstow's story." [65]

On January 24, 2009, in an article entitled "The Generals’ Second Careers," [66] New York Times Public Editor ( ombudsman ) Clark Hoyt discussed Barstow's allegations. He wrote,

The Times ’s [first] report [was] a 7,500-word article, 20 photographs and 5 graphics. Nine photos of retired officers talking on television — four of them on NBC or MSNBC — dominated the front page. They included the most celebrated of all military analysts, Barry R. McCaffrey, the retired Army four-star general who just happened to be the man excluded from the Pentagon’s information program for criticizing Donald Rumsfeld’s management of the Iraq war. [...] The article barely mentioned McCaffrey and another NBC analyst, Gen. Wayne Downing, who died in 2007, yet included them in what a reader could reasonably interpret as a virtual rogue’s gallery of analysts spouting the Pentagon line.

On Nov. 30, under the [second] front-page headline "One Man’s Military-Industrial-Media Complex," Barstow wrote that McCaffrey represented an exclusive club of mostly retired generals whose "war commentary can fit hand in glove with undisclosed commercial interests[.]"

[...]

Barstow said he never intended to say that McCaffrey did anything illegal or unethical. He said he was describing how the world works and raising the issue of disclosure of potential conflicts.

[...]

McCaffrey, a much-decorated, thrice-wounded war hero, unhappily became the symbol of an entrenched system of insider access, overlapping interests and lack of public disclosure. It is an issue of high interest in Barack Obama’s Washington. Even as they testified to McCaffrey’s integrity, some of his most ardent supporters recognized that the system presented multiple opportunities for conflicts of interest. [...] McCaffrey said he will follow any disclosure rules, as long as they apply to everybody, not just retired military officers. [66]
 
 
 
Rmando
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10.1  Rmando  replied to  Dean Moriarty @10    6 years ago

I found the same thing reading up on him. I posted something about it higher up in the thread before I saw your post. Didn't mean to step on your toes. Let's see the left enjoy defending a war profiteer.

 
 
 
A. Macarthur
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10.2  A. Macarthur  replied to  Dean Moriarty @10    6 years ago

Your perspective needs some adjustment, Dean,

Eight days after the invasion of Iraq on March 19 2003, Paul Wolfowitz, then deputy defense secretary and a leading proponent of the war, told a Congressional committee: "We are dealing with a country that can really finance its own reconstruction, and relatively soon."
A decade later, that assessment could hardly have turned out to be more wrong.
The US has overwhelmingly borne the brunt of both the military and reconstruction costs, spending at least $138bn on private security, logistics and reconstruction contractors, who have supplied everything from diplomatic security to power plants and toilet paper.
An analysis by the Financial Times reveals the extent to which both American and foreign companies have profited from the conflict -- with the top 10 contractors securing business worth at least $72bn between them.
None has benefited more than KBR, once known as Kellogg Brown and Root. The controversial former subsidiary of Halliburton, which was once run by Dick Cheney, vice-president to George W. Bush, was awarded at least $39.5bn in federal contracts related to the Iraq war over the past decade.
Two Kuwaiti companies -- Agility Logistics and the state-owned Kuwait Petroleum Corporation -- are the second and third-biggest winners, securing contracts worth $7.2bn and $6.3bn respectively.
 
 
 
JohnRussell
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14  seeder  JohnRussell    6 years ago

There have been too many violations on this article. Do not make it personal. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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15  seeder  JohnRussell    6 years ago

We see in the responses on this seed from the right what their constant tactics are. Smear the messenger. A 4 star general says Trump is a threat? He must be "deep state". This response would be funny if it weren't so pathetic and dangerous. You don't have to be "deep state" to see that the President of the United States is psychologically deficient , informationally deficient, and morally deficient. It is as plain as day 24/7. 

All McCaffery did, with the authority of his reputation and accomplishments, is state the obvious. 

 
 
 
bbl-1
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16  bbl-1    6 years ago

Trump and Trumpism is a threat to the World.  Russia is rising, flexing its muscle.  Xi is president for life.  Duarte rules by threat, obedience and death.  Erdogan jails everybody.  Trump admires them.  Conservatives will us the paper of The Constitution as a napkin at the table of Trump.

Trump is a threat to the World.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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17  Sean Treacy    6 years ago

IF you want to see how a President under the sway of Putin would govern, look at the last administration. Here's Mother Jones (very left wing) detailing how Obama's National Security Adviser ordered our Cybersecurty to "stand down" and stop working on plans to strike back against Putin after it became clear that the Russians were interfering in the election. 

On basically every issue between the countries, Obama did what Putin wanted.

 
 
 
lib50
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17.1  lib50  replied to  Sean Treacy @17    6 years ago

You think that deflection is getting traction? 

Enjoy the lovefest

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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17.1.2  Sean Treacy  replied to  lib50 @17.1    6 years ago

You think that deflection is getting traction

Only in lib world is an order from Obama's NSA to stand down in the fight against Putin's cyberwar against the USA a "deflection." 

I don't know if it's funnier how liberals obsess about what Trump said and ignore what Obama did or how they blame Trump for the "acts of War" Putin carried out while Obama was President and Obama, while knowing of these "acts of war," did nothing.  

It's like watching the arsonist blame the firefighter who arrives after the house is ablaze for starting the fire. 

 
 
 
lib50
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17.1.3  lib50  replied to    6 years ago
CNN is not a legitimate news source but is democrat propaganda.

Sure, as if republicans know what a legitimate news source is.  Do you even realize Russian propaganda and fake news has been directed at your preferred sources for quite a few years now?  You are trying to justify believing a person who lies pathologically!  That is not an opinion!  Your 'trusted' sources have been lying and deflecting from the truth for a while now!  If someone wants to know the truth they can find it.  If they don't, they deny it.  The alternative reality is only believed by a minority of the worlds population, most are members of the GOP.  They still believe some of those fake Clinton 'scandals'!  I've seen them here!  Because Fox and such keep repeating the fake narrative!  Everybody knows Trump is a liar and when republicans pretend he isn't the world knows they can't believe them either.

 
 
 
Explorerdog
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17.1.4  Explorerdog  replied to  lib50 @17.1.3    6 years ago

Of course he is a threat, remember he shared secret information with our enemies to impress them, he has how many people in his administration unable to gain a permanent clearance and Kushner one of those that requested virtually unprecedented top secret files, what was he doing with information that he probably couldn't even comprehend. Was that an interest payment? Trump is a snake, but then they knew that when they picked him up.

 
 

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