DNC Unknowingly Suicides with Trump Suit, Opens Door for Trump to Depose Hillary
Democrats, be careful what you wish for.
When the news broke Friday that the Democrat National Committee had filed a federal lawsuit against the Trump campaign for literally helping its candidate win an election, the party’s water-carriers in the media were full of intimations that it was the end of the Trump presidency.
But as the story settles in that the DNC is accusing Trump’s camp of being involved in the hacking of the DNC’s computer systems, some possibilities raised by the suit make it look like the worst potential move by Democrats since the party made Hillary Clinton its nominee in 2016.
In fact, it could be political suicide.
That’s not the spin in the liberal-loving media, of course.
USA Today published an Op-Ed from former DNC Chairwoman Donna Brazile headlined, “Democrats Were Crime Victims. If Trump Won’t Protect Elections, We Will.”
PBS’ “NewsHour” interviewed a senior fellow at the liberal Brookings Institution and headlined the piece, “How the DNC Lawsuit Could Become a Powerful Tool.”
But conservative radio host Mark Simone is raising another possibility, and it’s one that could make any DNC lawsuit over the 2016 elections very uncomfortable for the party and its leaders.
“Of course the DNC lawsuit against Trump, Russia and Wikileaks was just a cheap Stormy Daniels PR stunt, but major Dems are furious at the DNC,” Simone wrote. “This lawsuit would allow Trump to do discovery, to depose and put under oath Hillary, Debbie Wasserman Schultz, Obama and others .”
Now that’s a tantalizing possibility.
Naturally, a civil lawsuit would involve sworn depositions, and since Brazile herself has labeled Clinton’s campaign as being the real power behind the DNC at the time of the hacking, the former candidate for the presidency might become a prime candidate for close questioning.
And this time, the questions wouldn’t be softballs lobbed by FBI agents giving Clinton the kid-glove treatment because they thought she would win the White House.
And it isn’t just Hillary that could be on the spot.
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Do you think this lawsuit will backfire on the Democrats?
As Simone points out, former DNC Chairwoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz could be questioned too. Maybe the congresswoman from Florida could shed some Sunshine State light on just how she let a major American political party get taken over by hacks in the Clinton campaign — as well as the hackers who spilled its secrets to WikiLeaks.
And then there’s the grand-daddy deposition of them all. Former President Barack Obama was the de facto head of the Democrat Party during eight years in the White House. Trump campaign lawyers — and the American public — could finally get a chance to know what the former president knew and when he knew it when it came to Russia’s alleged “tampering” in the 2016 election.
Chances are, none of that would go well for Democrats.
From all public evidence, the Democrats’ claim of “Russian collusion” by the Trump campaign is just hot air. As New York Post columnist Michael Goodwin pointed out Sunday, the DNC’s own lawsuit is the strongest sign yet that special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation has come up empty thus far with ammunition against Trump.
The lawsuit is the DNC’s best chance of keeping the Russia story going for the midterm elections and the rest of Trump’s terms, but it’s also the best chance yet that some of their key players might get caught unwilling or unable to answer legitimate questions about Democrat behavior — and get caught doing it under oath.
While they might be wishing that the lawsuit keeps making news, the old saying is as true now as ever: be careful what you wish for. https://www.westernjournal.com/ct/dnc-unknowingly-suicides-with-suit/
“Naturally, a civil lawsuit would involve sworn depositions, and since Brazile herself has labeled Clinton’s campaign as being the real power behind the DNC at the time of the hacking, the former candidate for the presidency might become a prime candidate for close questioning.
And this time, the questions wouldn’t be softballs lobbed by FBI agents giving Clinton the kid-glove treatment because they thought she would win the White House.
And it isn’t just Hillary that could be on the spot.
As Simone points out, former DNC Chairwoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz could be questioned too. Maybe the congresswoman from Florida could shed some Sunshine State light on just how she let a major American political party get taken over by hacks in the Clinton campaign — as well as the hackers who spilled its secrets to WikiLeaks.
And then there’s the grand-daddy deposition of them all. Former President Barack Obama was the de facto head of the Democrat Party during eight years in the White House. Trump campaign lawyers — and the American public — could finally get a chance to know what the former president knew and when he knew it when it came to Russia’s alleged “tampering” in the 2016 election.
Chances are, none of that would go well for Democrats.”
Sounds like conservatives have no idea how the scoping rules work in discovery, particularly with federal civil lawsuits.
It also sounds like they want the DNC to do nothing when a Republican campaign conspires with a hostile foreign power to commit crimes against them. I certainly can understand why conservatives would want that since they no longer support the rule of law.
I wonder what would have happened to Nixon if it turned out that he and CREEP had conspired with the USSR to win the 1972 election by committing crimes against the DNC?
There was no conspiracy between the GOP and any foreign power. Only the democrats colluded with the Russians in 2016.
Keep telling yourself that!
Will you still be in denial when the shit hits the fan?
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Funny how republicans have NEVER needed proof before! Remember the birth certificate? How about Benghazi? Vince Foster? Obama's religion? The list is huuuuggeee
I have a whole history of it here for you to reminisce.
ps, read some of those comments below, you need to remind yourselves of your own advice.
That must be why Jared, Don Jr and other Trump campaign officials met with Russian operatives in the expectation that they were going to receive "dirt" on Clinton.......and then lied about the purpose of the meeting.
It’s not going to, except for the democrats...
thanks spike. I agree 100%. Well said.
So... How, exactly, do you "depose" someone who has no job?
Really, deposed from fucking what? Being a private citizen? The desperation is deep!
To depose someone, in a legal case, is to interview them under oath without a jury present. This is what will happen to any witnesses that are called to testify. They will be deposed by the lawyers on both sides and, then, that deposition can be usually be used against them should they not say what they said in the deposition at trial.
The funny part is that right-wingers don't seem to have a clue what the federal rules are for the scope of a deposition.
Why don’t you link to the rules, then or do you not know what they are despite your claims?
Actually I meant "discovery" not "deposition." I'll let you link to the rules but here's some discussion about the recent changes to the scope of discovery in federal civil suits:
The point being that discovery isn't a free for all like the seeder, article's author and wingnuts here seem to think it is.
Ah, but all of the witnesses, including everyone in leadership positions in the DNC and Clinton's campaign, will be deposed at some point should the suit be allowed to go forth. And, if they change their testimony between the deposition and being on the stand, then they can be hit with criminal charges.
And your point would be what, exactly?
Hello all. I’m back ! Seed unlocked. 🎊 🎉
not just hillary
when did obama know about russians mucking about in our election? why did he do nothing?
What did Obama know? Probably enough to levy charges of Treason against Trump.
If he had that info, he’d have used it in the summer or fall of 2016. We do know he was aware of Russian activity here and did nothing.
I agree Obama should have started the process of investigating WTF was going on, however he surly would have been lambasted and accused of trying to throw the election before anything even got off the ground.
I always call shit like that a catch 22, your screwed either way.
Having information and proof are two different things. To be honest and fair a complete investigation would have to be undertaken. This would take time. Obama knew this. Obama also tried to conduct himself as a person with integrity. Unlike candidate Trump who endeared himself to the right wing crowd through 'Birtherism, slander, accusation and lies.'
Yep. Obama was totally complicit in all that actually did happen here with our elections and the Russians
Stupid title, "suicide" is not a verb.
Suicide is what the democrats are committing. They won’t be missed.
"Suicide is what the democrats are committing. They won’t be missed. '
More like the Republicans. The more they prop up Trump while he is tearing their party apart, and making them looks like total fools.
As former member of the Republican party, I am both sorry and ashamed to see how low that party has sunk in such a short time.
As Trump would say..."Sad".
"Depose Hillary?"
So one would thusly assume that Trump is in 'decompose?'
Decomposition?
Could explain the orange pallor...hair loss...hollow eyes...shrinking hands...weight settling to the bottom...maybe he's already been embalmed and we haven't been told?
Sad and out of place here. Wishing a President dead already isn’t a good idea.
Realizing and admitting to a problem is the first step to solving it.
Republican fantasy.......let's get Hillary and Obama deposed on another fishing expedition.....Wait... we've had how many investigations into Hillary's activities....I've lost count....how many indictments....ZERO.....Obama?.....the republicans are kidding.....his administration has been found to be the most ethical in the last 150 years......oh well.....keep shooting that bb gun.....maybe they'll find out he cheated on a second grade spelling test and then they can impeach him post hoc for that immorality.
You got that correct! They seem to forget that while they are rubbing their hands and waiting to Depose Hillary and Obama, the DNC gets to depose and drag all Trumps past and present cronies in front of the cameras again.
They were worried that Mueller was going to put Trump in a perjury trap? Wait until he gets deposed!
The Deep State does not exist. It is a bizarre right wing fantasy. In fact it is a very, very bizarre right wing fantasy.
Wow, you really are ignoring everything that doesn't fit in your little corner of the world.
All of Robert Mueller’s indictments and plea deals in the Russia investigation so far...That we know of.
Here's who has been charged so far in Mueller's Russia probe
I suspect you understand, but are afraid to admit it, even to yourself.
A civil suit will bring out everything into the public eye when Trump and his cronies are disposed. Civil actions allow certain things to be aired out which criminal proceedings do not.
You do realize that lying to the FBI 1) is something MANY have done and 2) isn't close to what they were supposed to be investigating. They are little bullshit charges to show how little Meuller and his team of political hacks have come up with.
The ONLY thing that is keeping Meuller in his job is being special council. The President won't fire him just to piss off the left.
So you are promoting committing federal crimes? Or are you saying that you feel that lying to law enforcement officers should not be a crime???
And I see that you are still in denial about Mueller's investigation. Just how deep, did we decide last time, are you burying your head? Shoulder deep or chest deep?
What I'm promoting is prosecution of it. Mueller and his team of circus clowns have 22 "indictments" on bullshit. As I've said before, none of them are for what they were to investigate.
I"m saying prosecute those that commit the crime. But then again, that would wipe out virtually EVERYBODY holding office and everybody who ran for office.
There is nothing to deny. It's a farce. They come up empty, and now to save face they are chasing their shadows. You do realize that the only reason the President hasn't fired him is just to piss off the left don't you?
Never discussed that but -
Exactly! The deep state is quite real even if the democrat party is in total denial.
Well, ( Deleted CoC {SP} ) wouldn't that apply to the DNC lawsuit also?
This is going to cost the Democrats a lot of money. It's like paying for their own demise.
I certainly hope so. We need a new loyal opposition party in America now.
You already have a loyal Opposition Party TO America right now. It's called the GOP!
Pretty sure that's what the GOP said the last time they were sued by the DNC. Problem is that the DNC won last time.
No doubt about it. The left is doubling down in their crazy conspiracy theory. The sad part is when Mueller is done and there's no collusion that will just ratchet up the insanity on the left to even worse levels.
Hence the DNC suit - they have nothing, they know they have nothing - but it's their only shot. Jon Gruber was being honest - and revealing - when he said "We were depending on the stupidity of the voters....."
The left requires ignorance in their voting base. They cultivate it, they tend to it, nurture it.
Warren/Mussolini 2020
Their 2016 ticket was just as bad.
Say what? I just read a bunch of crazy rightwing theories about 'deep state' (something being pushed by Russian trolls, by the way). Do you read the comments you all write? Do you realize how much projection you all do? We have proof Russia hacked and manipulated American voters. Not the same as something pulled out of Hannity's/Trump's arse.
Speaking of conspiracy theories.
of course he doesn't.
It is just like when they whine about how Comey reopening the investigation days before the election cost her.
Who in the hell hadn't made up their freaking minds on who to vote for by then?
it's ridiculous!
SHE. But I don't have to, its there for you and Mueller is still working on it. This is bigger than Benghazi, we've got 3 more years to reach that goalpost, be patient. You can absolutely find out what is out there publicly. Or you can listen to the propaganda being helped and pushed by team gop/russia, to protect themselves and Trump. They aim their bs at people who want to believe it. Eventually the truth will be impossible to hide from.
Well, then all the leftist chatter should stop and WAIT FOR MUELLER TO FINISH.
We will see.
Anything we MIGHT say right now is PURE speculation on all of our parts.
You don't really believe that people changed their votes based on Comey's reports and investigation, do you?
The VAST majority of people already KNEW who they were voting for.
And besides all of that, Comey CLEARED her, so it should have HELPED her rather than HURT her.
I believe that is one of the dumbest excuses for her loss that I have heard.
You would think that if you wanted to forget the rest of what happened. You would think that if you were looking for something to reinforce what you want to believe and blocked out anything not promoting that narrative. But there was more. You just want to pretend it all stops with your bit.
It is simply undeniable fact that Comey cleared her.
And, it is simply undeniable fact that Clinton's email woes were of her own doing. SHE chose to have a private server. No one forced her to. No one forced her to have one set of rules for herself and a separate set for her employees in the State Dept., well except for her own aides, of course.
You can believe whatever you want. I understand the deep need to explain why and how Hillary lost in such a shocking fashion.
How is that any different than Pence using a private server?
One HUGE difference.
Pence did so as Governor--not as a federal employee.
Was it against the law or rules for Pence to do it?
Why, no, no it wasn't.
Did Pence issue a directive that all Indiana state employees not use private email accounts to conduct state business, as Clinton did for HER staff at State?
Did Pence use one set of rules for himself and favored staff members, and another set of rules for the rest of the employees regarding emails?
Did Pence claim to never have had classified info in his emails, and then it was proven that he did, like it was for Clinton?
Did Pence have his own private server that he tried to wipe, like with a cloth or something?
Two great posts Texan. Well said. If the democrats get their way can anyone say President Pence?
yep I'd say many have not considered trump's Ace in the hole, his choice of a VP with an even more unconventional agenda than his own.
no... lol
you have proof hillary paid russians to lie about trump and couple adds on facebook
What a crock of 💩.
Exactly...we’ll said.
Hillary is a wicked witch. She didn’t deserve to become President. What she does deserve is to be locked 🔒 up for life w/o possibility of parole.
The Pence agenda is actually quite conventional conservative. That pick along with the promise to remake the courts with conservative judges won Trump a strong showing among both the Tea Party and Evangelical Christians.
Hillary manipulated herself....needed no help from anyone else.
Exactly. She lost the election fair and square all on her own. No excuses. She ran a campaign against the despicable deplorables and it turned she was running against herself.
Mueller has already racked up an impressive score and he's just getting started. Trump's house of cards is falling.
I seem to ask this question quite frequently of late:
You do realize that Ms. Clinton lost the Presidential election to Mr. Trump, do you not?
Yes--we saw the evidence of that when Democrats spent a day screaming at the sky!
Curiously, it's felt like Democrats have disowned Hilary for quite a while now. I doubt anybody is going to cry too hard about this potential pursuit of justice, unlike other current investigations that seem to have people on the verge of a suicidal breakdown.
I’m interested in what Obama knew and when he knew it regarding Russian involvement in our elections.
Yep. Obama was totally complicit in all that actually did happen here with our elections and the Russians