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Alice Johnson Thanks Jesus Christ and President Trump for Sentence Commutation

  

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Via:  heartland-american  •  6 years ago  •  260 comments

Alice Johnson Thanks Jesus Christ and President Trump for Sentence Commutation

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After Johnson’s case was brought to his attention by reality TV superstar Kim Kardashian West, Trump commuted her sentence.

This was the scene Wednesday as Johnson was released.  

“First of all, I want to thank my Lord and Savior, thank Jesus Christ. Without him, I can do nothing. With him, I can do everything,” she said. “I want to thank President Donald John Trump. Hallelujah!,” she added, as the crowd around her cheered at the sound of the president’s name. “Thank you for giving me another chance at life and restoring me to my family.’

Speaking of Kardashian West, Johnson added, “Bless Kim, our little angel. Thank you, thank you.”

Johnson, who is now 63, had been serving a life sentence in a federal prison in Aliceville, Alabama, since 1996.

According to Mic, the outlet that first publicized Johnson’s story, which in turn got the attention of Kardashian West, “Johnson was convicted for her role facilitating communications in a cocaine trafficking operation in Memphis, Tennessee.” She was then handed a sentence of life with no chance of parole, plus another 25 years.

This was Johnson’s first offense.

Once incarcerated, Johnson became a model prisoner, a playwright and minister to the other female prisoners.

There is no record of her ever having been involved in any kind of violence.

Kardashian West told the Mic that while meeting with Trump, he “really spent the time to listen to our case that we were making for Alice. He really understood, and I am very hopeful that this will turn out really positively.”

Johnson again thanked Kardashian West and Trump Thursday morning on ABC’s Good Morning America.

When asked if she felt she had paid her debt to society, Johnson said she felt she had “overpaid,” but did not deny committing the crimes that resulted in her 22-year imprisonment, which were quite serious:  

 

Minutes after her GMA appearance Trump tweeted, “Good luck to Alice Johnson. Have a wonderful life.”


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XXJefferson51
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1  seeder  XXJefferson51    6 years ago

By contrast, here's what really happened:

As if vast numbers of people, black and white, can't relate to that and feel the joy as she shouts, "I love you, President Trump!"

That reveals to us what's really bothering the left. Trump is not only stealing their thunder on the cause of unjust sentences (and this one was unjust), but bringing a whole lot of black people into the Republican Party as a result of his correcting this wrong.      https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2018/06/with_pardoned_alice_johnson_shouting_i_love_you_president_trump__the_left_stews_at_being_outsmarted_by_him.html

 
 
 
Kavika
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1.1  Kavika   replied to  XXJefferson51 @1    6 years ago

No other president has pardoned a black person before...Really!!!!

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
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2  Paula Bartholomew    6 years ago

The last thing I thought I would ever say is "Wtg Kim and Trump."

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.1  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @2    6 years ago

By 2020 you will be voting for Trumps re-election!  thumbs up

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
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2.1.1  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.1    6 years ago

One "atta boy" no way wipes out all the "ah shits" he has done so there is no way in 2020 that I will vote for him.

 
 
 
Studiusbagus
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2.1.2  Studiusbagus  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.1    6 years ago
By 2020 you will be voting for Trumps re-election!

That will be when his first parole hearing will be held.

 
 
 
bugsy
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2.1.3  bugsy  replied to  Studiusbagus @2.1.2    6 years ago
That will be when his first parole hearing will be held.

For what, exactly?

 
 
 
cjcold
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2.1.4  cjcold  replied to  bugsy @2.1.3    6 years ago

Obstruction of justice and money laundering most likely.

 
 
 
Larry Hampton
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3  Larry Hampton    6 years ago

Thank you Jesus and Rump for releasing the LEADER (not merely one playing a " role facilitating communications in a cocaine trafficking operation" as dishonestly being rendered in this article) and thank you as well to the TV whore and perfectly ridiculous role model for little ones, who got on her knees in front of the Prez to facilitate the jail-break.

I'm sure Jesus is so thankful as well, to all who share this idiocy for political purposes.

 
 
 
Ender
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3.1  Ender  replied to  Larry Hampton @3    6 years ago

Funny some act like she was just a casual user. There was money laundering involved, among other things.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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3.1.1  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Ender @3.1    6 years ago

She served 22 years.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
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3.1.2  Tessylo  replied to  Ender @3.1    6 years ago
'Funny some act like she was just a casual user. There was money laundering involved, among other things.'

Yeah, it says above it was her first offense.  So?  

 
 
 
Tessylo
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3.1.3  Tessylo  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.1.1    6 years ago
'She served 22 years.'

Yeah, so?  

 
 
 
Tessylo
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3.1.4  Tessylo  replied to  Tessylo @3.1.2    6 years ago

I meant to say Ender - that just because she is a first time offender - according to the article - that's a pretty big freaking offense - money laundering, drug trafficking.  

 
 
 
Ender
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3.1.6  Ender  replied to    6 years ago

I just think that it's kind of funny. I have heard conservative people say things like, think about the children, think about all the lives she ruined, think about all the addicts she made, etc.

Now all of the sudden, because trump did it, it's ok, she deserves to get out, it was a minor offence...

 
 
 
Ender
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3.1.8  Ender  replied to    6 years ago

Then you seem to be in a minority within your brethren. I have heard some say that pot smokers shouldn't get out early.

A man that was convicted with her also got a life sentence. Why does she get out and he is still behind bars? They were working together.

 
 
 
Raven Wing
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3.1.9  Raven Wing  replied to  Ender @3.1.8    6 years ago
Why does she get out and he is still behind bars? They were working together.

Obvious 'collusion' between Trump and Kanye West and his Kardashian eye candy. LOL

 
 
 
Tessylo
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3.1.10  Tessylo  replied to    6 years ago

Drug trafficking and money laundering - is hardly a simple drug offense.  

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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3.1.13  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to    6 years ago

Many conservatives with any libertarian in our make up might be a little more compassionate regarding non violent drug crimes.  She served 22 years.  Democrats have been talking sentencing reform for several years now and now that Trump agrees with him they lose interest and want to throw away the key 🔑 for an African American grandmother who has already served 22 years?  

 
 
 
TruettCollins
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3.1.14  TruettCollins  replied to  Tessylo @3.1.4    6 years ago

It was simply the first time she got caught.....in the time before how many families did she destroy, how many lives did she ruin?

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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3.1.15  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  TruettCollins @3.1.14    6 years ago

No way to know.  She served 22 years.  There have been murderers who served less time and got out.  So, are liberals going to abandon sentencing reform now that they know Trump is for it?  

 
 
 
Studiusbagus
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3.1.16  Studiusbagus  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.1.15    6 years ago
So, are liberals going to abandon sentencing reform now that they know Trump is for it?

Jeeezus! You should do a little reading before you write.

There is nothing in his reform language that addresses Sentence Reform.

 
 
 
JBB
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3.1.17  JBB  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.1.15    6 years ago
are liberals going to abandon sentencing reform now that they know Trump is for it?

When did Trump embrace sentencing reform? He issued a pardon in a vain attempt to curry favor...

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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3.1.18  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  JBB @3.1.17    6 years ago

Really?  The libertarian populist is showing now with this and having the federal government bow to states rights in determining what to do about marijuana.  And his offer of citizenship for 1.8 million DACA people before. 

 
 
 
TruettCollins
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3.1.19  TruettCollins  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.1.15    6 years ago
There have been murderers who served less time and got out.

Which is not right either.....how many people died because of the poison she was pushing?

 
 
 
Studiusbagus
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3.1.21  Studiusbagus  replied to    6 years ago
now that they know Trump is for it?

Trump never said he was for sentencing reforms....My point.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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3.2  Split Personality  replied to  Larry Hampton @3    6 years ago

In March of this year the same POTUS was advocating for the death penalty for the LEADERS of these drug pushing rings citing "thousands of deaths and lives ruined".

Now he's pandering to Kim and Kanye to commute this woman's sentence?

SMDH

 
 
 
Skrekk
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3.2.1  Skrekk  replied to  Split Personality @3.2    6 years ago

Trump has even endorsed Duterte's death squads against drug dealers.

 
 
 
sixpick
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3.3  sixpick  replied to  Larry Hampton @3    6 years ago
Thank you Jesus and Rump for releasing the LEADER (not merely one playing a "role facilitating communications in a cocaine trafficking operation" as dishonestly being rendered in this article) and thank you as well to the TV whore and perfectly ridiculous

I don't recall you being so upset when this information was revealed a few years ago, Larry.

U.S. misinformed Congress, public on immigrant release

by Brad Heath of USA Today

New records contradict the Obama administration's assurances to Congress and the public that the 2,200 people it freed from immigration jails last year to save money had only minor criminal records.

New records contradict the Obama administration's assurances to Congress and the public that the 2,200 people it freed from immigration jails last year to save money had only minor criminal records.

The records, obtained by USA TODAY, show immigration officials released some undocumented immigrants who had faced far more serious criminal charges, including people charged with kidnapping, sexual assault, drug trafficking and homicide.

The release sparked a furor in Congress. Republican lawmakers accused the Obama administration of setting dangerous criminals free. In response, U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement said it had released " low-risk offenders who do not have serious criminal records ," a claim the administration repeated to the public and to members of Congress.

The new records, including spreadsheets and hundreds of pages of e-mails, offer the most detailed information yet about the people ICE freed as it prepared for steep, across-the-government spending cuts in February 2013. They show that although two-thirds of the people who were freed had no criminal records, several had been arrested or convicted on charges more severe than the administration had disclosed.

ICE spokeswoman Gillian Christensen acknowledged the discrepancy. She said "discretionary releases made by ICE were of low-level offenders. However, the releases involving individuals with more significant criminal histories were, by and large, dictated by special circumstances outside of the agency's control."

Lawmakers expressed concern. Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., said it is "deeply troubling that ICE would knowingly release thousands of undocumented immigrant detainees many with prior criminal records into our streets, while publicly downplaying the danger they posed."

Immigration authorities detain an average of about 34,000 people a day. Although the agency regularly releases immigrants who have been charged with serious crimes, it typically does so because their legal status has changed or because they cannot be deported not as a way to save money. That distinction, combined with the fact that last year's release happened abruptly and with no advance notice, fed the partisan firestorm that followed.

ICE pays an average of $122 a day for each immigrant it keeps in detention.

The detainees were awaiting deportation or hearings in immigration court. The release did not stop those proceedings; instead, most were released with electronic monitors or other forms of supervision.

In hearings last year, Republican lawmakers pressed then-ICE Director John Morton for specifics on the criminal records of the people the agency had freed. At one, Rep. J. Randy Forbes, R-Va., asked Morton directly, "No one on that list has been charged or convicted with murder, rape or sexual abuse of a minor, were they?"

Morton answered, "They were not."

He told lawmakers that, to his knowledge, none had faced child pornography charges.

White House spokesman Jay Carney similarly described them as "low-risk, non-criminal detainees."

A spreadsheet ICE officials prepared listing the detainees includes one person in Texas charged with aggravated kidnapping and sexually assaulting a child, as well as others charged with armed assaults or assaulting police officers. Another immigrant released from Miami had been charged with conspiracy to commit homicide. Two detainees from Boston had been charged with aggravated assault using a weapon. One in Denver had a sexual assault charge. The agency released the spreadsheet to USA TODAY under the Freedom of Information Act.

ICE's records do not indicate whether the detainees were convicted of those crimes or merely charged with them. The agency said it would not release information identifying any of the detainees because doing so would invade their privacy, so it was impossible to examine the details of their cases.

Morton, who resigned last year, told Congress that the more than 2,200 immigrants ICE released included 629 people with criminal records, all of them people who had been charged with misdemeanors "or other criminals whose prior conviction did not pose a violent threat to public safety."

That accounting did not include 144 other detainees whose release ICE records attribute to "special issues." Most often, that meant the detainees were let go because the agency had little chance of deporting them in the near future. The Supreme Court has said the government generally cannot hold immigrants for more than six months if it has no prospect of deporting them. To save money, ICE freed some detainees before the six-month clock ran out.

Homeland Security officials have acknowledged that ICE handled the detainee release badly. The department's inspector general concluded in August that the cost-cutting efforts were so rushed and mismanaged that top officials never informed the White House or then-Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano. Nonetheless, its audit concluded that officials acted "appropriately" in selecting which undocumented immigrants should be released.

The former head of ICE's detention operation, Gary Mead, said that if officials provided incorrect information to the public, they did not do so deliberately. Rather, he said, the release happened so quickly that ICE managers in Washington did not know precisely who had been released until after the episode had been reported by the news media.

"We had been asking for some time whether we would have enough money to sustain the level of detention we had, and we didn't get an answer," Mead said. "When we did get an answer, it was that we had to start releasing people today."

Sadly, most people (especially many of the self-proclaimed "human rights advocates") don't really give a hoot about human suffering. They only bring these things up when it suits their own political agenda. - Anonymous Left Leaning NT Member (2012)

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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3.3.1  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  sixpick @3.3    6 years ago

ClappingGiggleThumbs Up 2la de da

 
 
 
Tessylo
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3.4  Tessylo  replied to  Larry Hampton @3    6 years ago

Thank you Jesus and Donald Rump don't belong together.  

 
 
 
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Freshman Silent
3.4.1    replied to  Tessylo @3.4    6 years ago
Thank you Jesus and

E.A what can you tell me about Jesus Christ so as to assist me in making a choice?

 
 
 
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Freshman Silent
3.4.2    replied to  @3.4.1    6 years ago

3.4.1 Eagle Averro replied to Tessylo @3.4 a second ago
Thank you Jesus and
E.A what can you tell me about Jesus Christ so as to assist me in making a choice?

E.A   LOL another one bites the dust :-)

 
 
 
Tessylo
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3.4.3  Tessylo  replied to  @3.4.1    6 years ago

Why don't you go peddle your jesus nonsense somewhere else?

 
 
 
Tessylo
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3.4.4  Tessylo  replied to  @3.4.2    6 years ago

'Thank you Jesus and
E.A what can you tell me about Jesus Christ so as to assist me in making a choice?

E.A   LOL another one bites the dust'

What does that blithering nonsense mean?

 
 
 
lennylynx
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3.4.5  lennylynx  replied to  Tessylo @3.4.4    6 years ago

It's hard to understand EA because he's smarter than the rest of us!

 
 
 
Tessylo
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3.4.6  Tessylo  replied to  lennylynx @3.4.5    6 years ago
'It's hard to understand EA because he's smarter than the rest of us!'

Oh yea, that's the ticket!

 
 
 
lennylynx
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3.4.7  lennylynx  replied to  @3.4.1    6 years ago

L.L. There is no contemporary historical record of the Jesus described in the bible; the Jesus story is all hearsay.  I hope this information helps you.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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3.4.9  Tessylo  replied to    6 years ago

'Why don't you answer his very straightforward question?

Because you can't, that's why.

Carry on'

'E.A what can you tell me about Jesus Christ so as to assist me in making a choice?'

What the hell is there to tell him about Jesus Christ so as to assist him in making a choice?

Can you answer that question?

Please do so then.

Carry on

 
 
 
Tessylo
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3.4.11  Tessylo  replied to    6 years ago
'Thanks for proving my point.'

Makes No Sense

 
 
 
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Freshman Silent
3.4.12    replied to  Tessylo @3.4.3    6 years ago
Why don't you go peddle your jesus nonsense somewhere else?

E.A  Was it NOT You that made a comparison and gave advice?

 
 
 
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Freshman Silent
3.4.13    replied to  lennylynx @3.4.7    6 years ago
I hope this information helps you.

E.A Thank YOU and the Earth is Flat right, and Hence why do you go around discouraging Folk from looking into the Bible?

Deleted, CoC  {SP} 

Phrases meant to denigrate are not allowed (e.g. ‘your ilk’).

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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3.4.14  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Tessylo @3.4.11    6 years ago

Don’t mimic others posts on my seed.  

 
 
 
MrFrost
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3.4.15  MrFrost  replied to  @3.4.1    6 years ago
E.A what can you tell me about Jesus Christ so as to assist me in making a choice?

Jesus had morals....trump can't even SPELL morals. 

 
 
 
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Freshman Silent
3.4.16    replied to  MrFrost @3.4.15    6 years ago

Jesus had morals....trump can't even SPELL morals.

E.A  Great we are making Progress, now at least you accept that Jesus Christ Existed,

  So what Morals of Jesus do you respect and wish that Trump also had?

 
 
 
MrFrost
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3.4.17  MrFrost  replied to  @3.4.16    6 years ago
E.A  Great we are making Progress, now at least you accept that Jesus Christ Existed,

Jesus' morals are well documented. Feel free to look them up. And as far as I know, no one disputes that Jesus existed, it's his deeds that are in question. 

 
 
 
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Freshman Silent
3.4.19    replied to  MrFrost @3.4.17    6 years ago
And as far as I know, no one disputes that Jesus existed,

E.A  Nice " Rose Colour Glasses " you have ON, they suit you!

 
 
 
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Freshman Silent
3.4.20    replied to    6 years ago
there are plenty of people on NT saying the Bibical Jesus never existed. I would name some but they would take it as a personal attack.

E.A                                    BINGO!!

What a Hypocritical Stance THAT is, where they can attack and LIE but they can not be Named, Thank You!

 
 
 
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3.4.22    replied to    6 years ago
NT's posters own words to debate her she reports me as making a personal attack.

E.A Yes that is a " Normal " process here, the other one is to call their Allies, to also cause a same " event " and hence then get a Ban of a day or two, do that to that member a number of times and then have them not come to NT and hence control all of the seeding and commentary, a process of Power through attrition !

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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3.4.23  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  @3.4.22    6 years ago

The secular progressive way......  well said.  I had to lock a seed some days ago because like our  minded were in a turkey shoot.  I reopened it hours later, the other side didn’t return. 

 
 
 
lennylynx
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3.4.24  lennylynx  replied to  MrFrost @3.4.17    6 years ago

I dispute that Jesus existed.  There is no contemporary historical record of the Jesus described in the bible, it is all hearsay. 

In Jesus' travels described in the bible, there are major centers Jesus would have had to either pass through or skirt around that are not even mentioned.  The census where everyone was required to return to their home towns never happened.  There are many problems with the Jesus story when considered in the light of what we actually know about the time during which Jesus supposedly lived.

 
 
 
Ender
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3.4.25  Ender  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.4.23    6 years ago

So you lock seeds to stifle dissent.

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
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3.4.26  sandy-2021492  replied to  Ender @3.4.25    6 years ago

Yup.  A tactic of those who know their position is weak.

 
 
 
cjcold
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3.4.27  cjcold  replied to  MrFrost @3.4.17    6 years ago

Pretty sure that the biblical jesus was a conglomerate of the many other messiah figures that came before.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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3.4.28  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Ender @3.4.25    6 years ago

No I locked it to prevent any others on the right along with myself from getting additional skirting or coc from the gunslinging person there that day.  Had nothing at all to do with stifling dissent.  It worked as none of them got a two day to this point. It was simply a cooling off period until I reopened it and it stayed cool 😎 thereafter.  

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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3.4.29  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  cjcold @3.4.27    6 years ago

Except that Jesus is the real One and all the others before and after were fakes.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
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3.5  Tessylo  replied to  Larry Hampton @3    6 years ago
'Thank you Jesus and Rump for releasing the LEADER (not merely one playing a "role facilitating communications in a cocaine trafficking operation" as dishonestly being rendered in this article) and thank you as well to the TV whore and perfectly ridiculous role model for little ones, who got on her knees in front of the Prez to facilitate the jail-break.'

Yeah, what a wonderful role model - Kim Kartrashian - who got famous for a fuck tape.  

 
 
 
Ender
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3.5.1  Ender  replied to  Tessylo @3.5    6 years ago

Never understood the Kardashian popularity. Famous for being famous.

 
 
 
devangelical
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3.5.2  devangelical  replied to  Ender @3.5.1    6 years ago

She's famous for getting corn-holed by rap artists on video.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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3.5.3  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  devangelical @3.5.2    6 years ago

Way to target one of your celebrity democrats.  She has compassion for an elderly African American woman who served 22 years on prison already and tying in with her and other liberals efforts on prison and sentencing reform actually does something about it, and gets her commuted and released.  Then the liberals who’d been wanting this for a long time attack her for doing it and want the woman released locked up for life.  Are democrats in congress going to abandon sentencing reform now that the speaker of the house and the president are for it?  Just like they abandoned 1.8 million daca kids who could have been citizens because it was Trump who offered it?  

 
 
 
devangelical
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3.5.4  devangelical  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.5.3    6 years ago

Blah, blah, blah.... That's why she's famous. All the Kardashians are famous for who they fucked, unlike the false idol in DC worshipped by most thumpers.

 
 
 
magnoliaave
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3.5.5  magnoliaave  replied to  Tessylo @3.5    6 years ago

You must live in a glass house!

 
 
 
devangelical
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3.5.6  devangelical  replied to  magnoliaave @3.5.5    6 years ago

Then kindly lend her some sheets to hang in front of the windows.

 
 
 
Kavika
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4  Kavika     6 years ago

Kanye West supports Trump, Kim (Kanye wife) gets an audience with Trump. Trump pardons a convicted drug dealer to show that he supports blacks...OMG, how transparent is that. 

Perhaps Trump should actually acknowledge the Central Park Five and their innocence instead of carrying on a 30 year war against wrongly convicted minorities... 

 
 
 
sixpick
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4.1  sixpick  replied to  Kavika @4    6 years ago

Well, Obama lit the White House up in rainbow colors to get those votes, but refused to light it up in blue for the people who have to go out each day and night to deal with lawlessness.  Good political move, wouldn't you say?  Looking good, don't you think?

https://reclaimourrepublic.files.wordpress.com/2018/05/trump-gop-red-wave.jpg?w=640&h=470

 
 
 
Kavika
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4.1.1  Kavika   replied to  sixpick @4.1    6 years ago

Good to see you six. Seems that you haven't changed much, still posting incoherent off topic babble. 

 

 
 
 
Tessylo
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4.1.2  Tessylo  replied to  Kavika @4.1.1    6 years ago
'Seems that you haven't changed much, still posting incoherent off topic babble'

Seems to be all he has.  

 
 
 
arkpdx
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4.1.4  arkpdx  replied to  Tessylo @4.1.2    6 years ago

Are you Pot or Kettle? 

 
 
 
Phoenyx13
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4.1.5  Phoenyx13  replied to    6 years ago
If you don't understand Obama lit up the White House in support of gays but refused to do so in support of Law Enforcement then it's obviously not Six who's incoherent.

what was the reason that Obama lit up the White house in support of "gays" again ?

 
 
 
Kavika
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4.1.6  Kavika   replied to    6 years ago

Welcome OSM, thanks for more babble....Exactly what did his or your comment have to do with the content of my comment...NOTHING.

Tell your leader Trump to admit that he was wrong about the Central Park Five, or do you support his stand on it..

Cheers.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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4.1.8  Tessylo  replied to    6 years ago
'but nobody wants to talk about how Obama disrespected the military, law enforcement,' 

President Obama never did any of those things . . . Donald Rump though on the other hand . . . 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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4.1.11  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  sixpick @4.1    6 years ago

Bring on that red wave this November!  Thumbs Up 2

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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4.1.12  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  sixpick @4.1    6 years ago

duplicate comment (deleted)

 
 
 
Raven Wing
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4.1.13  Raven Wing  replied to  XXJefferson51 @4.1.11    6 years ago
Bring on that red wave this November!

What?  Are the Republicans going to let communists vote this November. How many do they have running for office? I'm sure Putin will be interested to see who many will win before he runs here with Trump as well.

 

 
 
 
Studiusbagus
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4.1.14  Studiusbagus  replied to  XXJefferson51 @4.1.12    6 years ago
Bring on that red wave this November!

Hmmm, sorry to bust your bubble but even Fox news reports that Dems have a 9 point lead....and others are saying that gap is growing.

Just think, this time next year we may be witnessing the impeachment AND indictment of Trump.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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4.1.15  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Studiusbagus @4.1.14    6 years ago

There can be no indictment of a sitting president. The senate would need 67 votes for removal from office before an indictment can happen.  No way a senate trial Would provide the votes for that.  All you could get is a house party line vote to impeach.  Nothing more.  

 
 
 
Studiusbagus
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4.1.16  Studiusbagus  replied to  XXJefferson51 @4.1.15    6 years ago
All you could get is a house party line vote to impeach.

That's what happens before an indictment...read up. Once he's impeached, he can be charged.

 
 
 
bugsy
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4.1.17  bugsy  replied to  Studiusbagus @4.1.16    6 years ago
Once he's impeached, he can be charged.

For what, exactly?

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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4.1.18  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Studiusbagus @4.1.16    6 years ago

No, he can’t.  He has to be convicted by the senate and removed from office first, before any indictment can happen.  

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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4.1.19  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  bugsy @4.1.17    6 years ago

Good question....

 
 
 
MrFrost
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4.1.20  MrFrost  replied to  bugsy @4.1.17    6 years ago

Crimes. 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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4.1.21  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  MrFrost @4.1.20    6 years ago

Such as....be specific.  

 
 
 
pat wilson
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4.1.22  pat wilson  replied to  XXJefferson51 @4.1.15    6 years ago

All that would be needed would be for 20 repubs to vote for it. Not likely but certainly possible.

 
 
 
MrFrost
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4.1.23  MrFrost  replied to  XXJefferson51 @4.1.21    6 years ago
Such as....be specific.

Mueller will let ya know... Patience...Patience... LOL

Let's be honest... Your kind has been calling Hillary a criminal for over 20 years, but never so much as a charge of a crime... Now you want specifics when it comes to trump? That's a joke right? LOL

 
 
 
Studiusbagus
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4.1.24  Studiusbagus  replied to  XXJefferson51 @4.1.18    6 years ago

He doesn't have to be removed from office, just impeached.

Since you are the brain child...show us the rules that says he must be removed from office....

 
 
 
Studiusbagus
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4.1.25  Studiusbagus  replied to  bugsy @4.1.17    6 years ago
For what, exactly?

Not like you don't already know but...Obstruction of justice, violation of the emoluments clause, then of course there's his announcement that he would be announcing dirt on Hillary...that was before his son went to the meeting with the Russians, only to be canceled after the meeting didn't produce the dirt.....obvious collusion with the Russians involving the election. To where they had to admit Trump dictated the bogus adoption memo.  We can add corruption to the impeachment list.

His playtime with Cohen is tightening around his neck also. The Courts have already spanked him trying to hide documents under Att/client privvy. This has only just begun while he's being sued by Summer Zervos.

 "Good question"......Sure C4P....again, ignorance applauding ignorance.

 
 
 
Studiusbagus
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4.1.26  Studiusbagus  replied to  XXJefferson51 @4.1.15    6 years ago
There can be no indictment of a sitting president.

Try again....

     Faced with federal indictments, Agnew’s criminal defense attorneys initially fought the allegations by arguing that the charges were false, that a sitting vice president could not be indicted, and that the only way he could be removed from office was by impeachment. After the prosecutor released a convincing legal brief asserting that sitting vice presidents could be indicted , Agnew launched a political attack on the Nixon administration and vowed not to resign. With Nixon in danger of impeachment for his role in the Watergate scandal, the administration sought to remove Agnew from the presidential line of succession, and secret plea-bargaining took place between Agnew's criminal defense lawyers, the prosecutors and the presiding federal judge. A plea bargain was struck that provided that Agnew could plead no contest to one felony and be sentenced to probation, provided he resigned as vice president of the United States On October 10, 1973 Agnew resigned the vice presidency, appeared in United States District Court in Baltimore and plead nolo contendere to a single federal count of failing to report on his income-tax return $29,500 in income that he had received in 1967, while governor of Maryland.

Agnew was already indicted while he was in office.....wait until Mueller does his final dance, Trump is going to be swimming neck deep in criminal misconduct. Looks like his pussy might be getting grabbed in the pokey.

 
 
 
devangelical
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4.1.28  devangelical  replied to    6 years ago

What does that have to do with the topic of this seed? Bwah ha ha

 
 
 
Studiusbagus
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4.1.29  Studiusbagus  replied to    6 years ago
You need more?

From RT and the Washington times? No.

And Duh...casualties did go up...30,000 troops were added.

So, Obama is to blame for the suicide bombers? Did he tell the troops to get close before making sure there was no bomb? Who's to blame for that snafu?

Did you ever disarm a prisoner that had his hands hidden? I didn't without seeing what he had first.

 
 
 
Studiusbagus
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4.1.30  Studiusbagus  replied to  XXJefferson51 @4.1.15    6 years ago
The senate would need 67 votes for removal from office before an indictment can happen.

Anybody tell Spiro Agnew that? He was indicted as he was sitting.

You fail.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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4.1.31  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Raven Wing @4.1.13    6 years ago

Yep, we’re going to allow Bernie Sanders and all his commie/socialist friends who are American citizens to vote in November.  

 
 
 
Kavika
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4.1.32  Kavika   replied to  XXJefferson51 @4.1.31    6 years ago
Yep, we’re going to allow Bernie Sanders and all his commie/socialist friends who are American citizens to vote in November.  

Of course we are, they are American citizens. 

Your allowed to vote so what is the big deal.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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4.1.33  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  pat wilson @4.1.22    6 years ago

And make Pence President for the rest of the term and eligible to run for two more terms.. 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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4.1.34  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  MrFrost @4.1.23    6 years ago

What do you mean by my kind?  

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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4.1.35  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Studiusbagus @4.1.26    6 years ago

The DOJ documents for a sitting president from 1973 and 1999 state quite clearly that a President can not be indicted while in office.  Clinton faced the music for what he did after he left office.  The rules for VP are not the same.  

 
 
 
devangelical
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4.1.37  devangelical  replied to  XXJefferson51 @4.1.33    6 years ago

Flynn is taking Pence down with him. Buh-bye thumper.

 
 
 
devangelical
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4.1.38  devangelical  replied to  XXJefferson51 @4.1.34    6 years ago

Running out of comments to flag? Bwah ha ha

 
 
 
livefreeordie
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4.1.39  livefreeordie  replied to  devangelical @4.1.37    6 years ago

Nonsense. General Flynn will likely never be sentence and if so, President Trump should immediately pardon him from this criminal attack by the FBI

Flynn did not lie-the only thing he is guilty of is not having unlimited funds to defend himself and falling on his sword to protect his son from an FBI threat.

The FBI and DOJ are criminal enterprises for the Stalinist US government, seeking how many Americans they can put in prison

“Recent reporting raised questions about the circumstances surrounding Michael Flynn’s guilty plea for making “false statements.”

Apparently, Peter Strzok, the FBI agent who conducted Flynn’s January 2017 interview, believed Flynn had been truthful. Reportedly, the FBI decided to take no action. On March 2, then-FBI director James Comey confirmed this to the House Intelligence Committee.”

As a former FBI agent, I believe the answers lie in an examination of the FBI’s disciplinary system under Mueller. In fact, this obscure Mueller process may well hold the key to understanding why Flynn’s guilty plea may be less a reflection of Flynn’s level of candor than a product of Mueller’s aggressive tactics — particularly, the tactic of using disingenuous allegations of lying to decide judicial matters.”

The Mystery of Michael Flynn’s Guilty Plea

He pleaded guilty to a crime FBI agents said he didn’t commit.

 
 
 
Studiusbagus
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4.1.40  Studiusbagus  replied to  XXJefferson51 @4.1.35    6 years ago

Funny how you do not link these documents...

And what does the constitution say? Oh yeah, it says nothing about whether a sitting president can be charged.

Hmmm, let's see what the favorite judge of the right has to say....Mr. Napolitano, do you have anything to add?

Napolitano: The Department of Justice Says Trump Can Be Indicted

Napolitano interjected to clarify Doocy’s attempt. He said, “Correct. Correct that it is a political decision by the House. Right now the House is controlled by Republicans. That may stay the same after November or it may change. But there is another DOJ memo–as I mentioned to you. They’re both circa Clinton, they’re both late nineties. Which says, the president can be indicted but not prosecuted until after he leaves office. You might have to indict him to stop the running of the statute of limitations.”

Napolitano...citing the DOJ....now where is your link ??

 
 
 
Studiusbagus
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4.1.41  Studiusbagus  replied to  XXJefferson51 @4.1.33    6 years ago
And make Pence President for the rest of the term and eligible to run for two more terms..

Nope, he's going down with Trump...Flynn will make that happen.

 
 
 
Studiusbagus
Sophomore Quiet
4.1.42  Studiusbagus  replied to  XXJefferson51 @4.1.35    6 years ago
The rules for VP are not the same.

Bullshit....show where they are not the same rules.

 
 
 
livefreeordie
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4.1.43  livefreeordie  replied to  Studiusbagus @4.1.41    6 years ago

Delusional

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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4.1.44  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Studiusbagus @4.1.42    6 years ago

I already did.  The 1973 and 1999 DOJ briefs about the effects on the separation of powers and on the ability of the Chief Executive to fully do their job if dividing time between the demands of that job and the defense of ones self in a court case.  Only the Supreme Court could over turn those opinions and due to the separation of powers issue almost certainly wouldn’t get involved. 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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4.1.45  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  livefreeordie @4.1.43    6 years ago

Indeed.  Even if that were somehow to happen, the next President would be a Republican from California.  From a place not friendly with the blue parts of our state.  

 
 
 
Studiusbagus
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4.1.46  Studiusbagus  replied to  XXJefferson51 @4.1.44    6 years ago

No, you didn't. I asked you to link the documents...you didn't because you can't.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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4.1.47  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Studiusbagus @4.1.46    6 years ago

https://www.justice.gov/file/19351/download          https://www.justice.gov/olc/opinion/sitting-president’s-amenability-indictment-and-criminal-prosecution       

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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4.1.48  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Studiusbagus @4.1.46    6 years ago

But I did and you have nothing to say now.  

 
 
 
Studiusbagus
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4.1.49  Studiusbagus  replied to  XXJefferson51 @4.1.48    6 years ago

But I did and you have nothing to say now.

Gee, yeah, excuse me for being out of town for a few days....I did it just to avoid this discussion//S

I read the links....you should have too when you thought you had something, here's an excerpt that shows how wrong you are....Remember, it's YOUR link.

The OLC memorandum began by considering whether the plain terms of the
Impeachment Judgment Clause prohibit the institution of criminal proceedings
against any officer subject to that Clause prior to that officer’s conviction upon
impeachment. OLC Memo at 2. The memorandum concluded that the plain terms
of the Clause do not impose such a general bar to indictment or criminal trial
prior to impeachment and therefore do not, by themselves, preclude the criminal
prosecution of a sitting President.
 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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4.1.50  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Studiusbagus @4.1.49    6 years ago

Anyone bringing any indictment against a sitting President will have to go through Supreme Court first.  Then find that they have to wait until he leaves office before they can proceed.  

 
 
 
Studiusbagus
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4.1.51  Studiusbagus  replied to  XXJefferson51 @4.1.50    6 years ago

Again, you ignore your own links.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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4.1.52  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Studiusbagus @4.1.51    6 years ago

I think that the President did the right thing in commuting this woman’s sentence after 22 years served.  

 
 
 
Studiusbagus
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5  Studiusbagus    6 years ago

Yay!  Another confessed convicted felon has joined the already crowded house of perverts and criminals in the halls of the Republicans!

"Hallelujah!"

 
 
 
Tessylo
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5.1  Tessylo  replied to  Studiusbagus @5    6 years ago

Praise Jebus!

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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5.1.1  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Tessylo @5.1    6 years ago

Ok,  https://billygraham.org/gallery/decision-california-photos-redding/

 
 
 
devangelical
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5.1.2  devangelical  replied to  XXJefferson51 @5.1.1    6 years ago

skirting the CoC "BF"

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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5.1.3  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  devangelical @5.1.2    6 years ago

So, since I was in that crowd of about 10,000 of wonderful, well behaved, polite Jefferson, American people your post is a direct personal attack as well as a sweeping generalization. 

 
 
 
devangelical
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5.1.4  devangelical  replied to  XXJefferson51 @5.1.3    6 years ago

Deleted, skirting  {SP}

 
 
 
livefreeordie
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5.1.5  livefreeordie  replied to  devangelical @5.1.4    6 years ago

No Value

 
 
 
devangelical
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5.1.6  devangelical  replied to  livefreeordie @5.1.5    6 years ago

No Value

 
 
 
livefreeordie
Junior Silent
5.1.7  livefreeordie  replied to  devangelical @5.1.6    6 years ago

No Value

 
 
 
Pedro
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5.1.8  Pedro  replied to  Tessylo @5.1    6 years ago

 
 
 
devangelical
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5.1.9  devangelical  replied to  livefreeordie @5.1.7    6 years ago

meh, you should see how I talk to teavangelicals IRL. No parishioner offered lunch at IHOP, eh?

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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5.1.10  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  devangelical @5.1.9    6 years ago

What exactly are you responding to?  

 
 
 
devangelical
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5.1.11  devangelical  replied to  XXJefferson51 @5.1.10    6 years ago

The weak response to a comment of mine some free speech hypocrite probably flagged. The comment you voted up.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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5.1.12  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  devangelical @5.1.11    6 years ago

I voted it up after it was gone because it was directed at you.  As to the rest,  I agree that the choking off of conversation does seem rather oppressive here at times.  

 
 
 
321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
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5.1.13  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu   replied to  XXJefferson51 @5.1.12    6 years ago
I agree that the choking off of conversation does seem rather oppressive here at times.

Although one does have to watch how one says stuff on here, in comparison to another newschat room that I won't bother to name I find the "censorship' aspect here quite minimal at best. 

At the non mentioned website soon Every single post I took time and effort to write and post very quickly was "Poofed" and the I was laughed at for even desiring to post my opinion.

So, to me this place is soooo much better. 

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
5.1.14  devangelical  replied to  XXJefferson51 @5.1.12    6 years ago

Then stop flagging comments. Are you that interested to see what happens to your comment counts if your seeds turn into ass licking contests? Post partisan shit, get partisan responses.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
5.1.15  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu @5.1.13    6 years ago

For the most part it is better than many  other places.  It’s those exceptions that make it frustrating at times.  

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
5.1.16  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  devangelical @5.1.14    6 years ago

I only flagged one or two the rest were flagged by others or taken down by that moderator after coming to check a flag.  I flagged the sweeping generalization you posted in 5.1.2 and it’s ridiculously still there.  

 
 
 
pat wilson
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5.1.17  pat wilson  replied to  XXJefferson51 @5.1.16    6 years ago

Too Much Info eek

 
 
 
arkpdx
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5.3  arkpdx  replied to  Studiusbagus @5    6 years ago

If it was Obama or Clinton  that commuted her  sentence , you would be shoutingfrim the rooftops how kind and compassionate he was for freeing this great grandmother and what a sweetheart she is and how cruel her incarceration was. Since it was Trumps that did I,  she has become the female equivalent of Pablo escobar. 

 
 
 
Sunshine
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5.3.1  Sunshine  replied to  arkpdx @5.3    6 years ago

no doubt 

 
 
 
Explorerdog
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5.3.2  Explorerdog  replied to  arkpdx @5.3    6 years ago

Trump wanted to execute drug traffickers and he freed this one, I guess when he found out that Oliver North and Ronnie Raygun shipped cocaine into the country by the ton his base wouldn't be happy.

 
 
 
livefreeordie
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5.3.3  livefreeordie  replied to  Explorerdog @5.3.2    6 years ago

Gary Webb’s lie continues to be repeated by the left even it has been thoroughly debunked

Did CIA have any relationship or dealings with Ross, Blandon or Meneses? No information has been found to indicate that any past or present employee of CIA, or anyone acting on behalf of CIA, had any direct or indirect dealing with Ricky Ross, Oscar Danilo Blandon or Juan Norwin Meneses. Additionally, no information has been found to indicate that CIA had any relationship or contact with Ronald J. Lister or David Scott Weekly, the person Lister allegedly claimed was his CIA contact. No information has been found to indicate that any of these individuals was ever employed by CIA, or met by CIA employees or anyone acting on CIA's behalf.

Was the drug trafficking of Ross, Blandon or Meneses linked to CIA or Contra activities? No information has been found to indicate that Ross provided any money to any Contra group at any time, or that he had any contact or connection to the Contras or CIA.

No information has been found to indicate that the drug trafficking activities of Blandon and Meneses were motivated by any commitment to support the Contra cause or Contra activities undertaken by CIA.

Blandon and Meneses claim that they each donated between $3,000 and $40,000 to Contra sympathizers in Los Angeles. No information has been found to substantiate these claims. Moreover, no information has been found to indicate that Meneses or Blandon received any CIA or Contra support for their drug trafficking activities.

Blandon did have a personal relationship with Eden Pastora and provided him with financial assistance in the form of rent-free housing and two vehicles. Much of this assistance was provided to Pastora after he left the Contra movement.”

 
 
 
Studiusbagus
Sophomore Quiet
5.3.4  Studiusbagus  replied to  arkpdx @5.3    6 years ago
you would be shoutingfrim the rooftops how kind and compassionate he was for freeing this great grandmother and what a sweetheart she is and how cruel her incarceration was

No, she's still a confessed convicted felon, I would have actually wondered what the fuck he was thinking. Having spent considerable time with Major traffickers, pedophiles, mass murderers and terrorists I think I have a rational opinion and without the need for a wannabe psychic with a hard on for people they don't agree with.

 
 
 
Explorerdog
Freshman Silent
5.3.5  Explorerdog  replied to  livefreeordie @5.3.3    6 years ago

I don't think I mentioned the CIA although they appear to have been involved with the heroin trade out of Viet Nam the cocaine movements sure have some people that are on record as pilots moving the material, into the states and dealers that maintained an enormous supply of cheaper coke admitting on the record the chain of delivery. What other financing vehicle was available at the level needed without any Congressional approval. Makes me wonder if old Ollie is helping finance the NRA in a similar fashion after all he is the expert.

 
 
 
livefreeordie
Junior Silent
5.3.6  livefreeordie  replied to  Explorerdog @5.3.5    6 years ago

Your accusation stemmed from Webb’s false claim that North was using the CIA to fund the Contras

 
 
 
Studiusbagus
Sophomore Quiet
5.3.7  Studiusbagus  replied to  livefreeordie @5.3.6    6 years ago
Your accusation stemmed from Webb’s false claim that North was using the CIA to fund the Contras

And you have no fucking clue...The CIA was hip deep in funding the contra gang and Ollie was the point man. They used Noriega as the middle man contact and scheduler, the cargo ships would arrive in Panama with the weapons and money, then carry on to Cartegena and pick up loads of cocaine bound for Miami and Los Angeles.

Reagan, Bush, Ollie and the CIA gave birth to the murderous cartels we know today by making them filthy rich, while Reagan got funding for the "War on Drugs" that he was bringing in to the country.

When Noriega became a liability by saying he would spill the beans on Bush, Ollie and the CIA we invaded Panama and snatched him. That's how Bill Clinton became such good friends with the Bush's because Clinton saved his ass.

 
 
 
Studiusbagus
Sophomore Quiet
5.3.9  Studiusbagus  replied to    6 years ago
In what capacity if I might ask?

Retired Corrections officer and Trainer of police officers.

 
 
 
Studiusbagus
Sophomore Quiet
5.3.10  Studiusbagus  replied to  arkpdx @5.3    6 years ago
she has become the female equivalent of Pablo escobar.

Nope, just another convicted "Thug" (as the right call black people that aren't in line with the right) that has joined the ranks of the criminals and sexual perverts in the Republican party.

 
 
 
arkpdx
Professor Quiet
5.3.11  arkpdx  replied to  Studiusbagus @5.3.10    6 years ago
Nope, just another convicted thug

The only reason you are taking that view is because Trump commuted her sentence. If it would have been your "dear leader" and "lord and master, Obama, she would just be a poor pitiful black woman who deserved compassion. 

 
 
 
Studiusbagus
Sophomore Quiet
5.3.12  Studiusbagus  replied to  arkpdx @5.3.11    6 years ago
The only reason you are taking that view is because Trump commuted her sentence

Trying to be a psychic again? Her crimes were inexcusable, we're not talking about a dealer sitting on a corner and selling dime bags. She moved tons of cocaine and had no problem with where they went as long as the money was flowing.

You don't get in to bed with the Colombians and nobody gets hurt.

 But keep trying to put words in my mouth...you look really stupid(er) while you're doing it.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
7  Tessylo    6 years ago

'Look at 'em all - the libs would rather thank Jesus than Trump. Tortured souls.'

That makes no damned sense.  What is there to thank Rump for?

 
 
 
livefreeordie
Junior Silent
7.1  livefreeordie  replied to  Tessylo @7    6 years ago

He is reversing much of the damage done by Obama, the Democrats, and the Establishment Republicans 

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
7.1.1  Tessylo  replied to  livefreeordie @7.1    6 years ago

crazy

 
 
 
Explorerdog
Freshman Silent
7.1.2  Explorerdog  replied to  livefreeordie @7.1    6 years ago

Hence the term REGRESSIVE, lets do coal, we can generate power, run trains and cars and heat out homes and that is just the reversal we can look forward to. Too bad horses can't be made to eat coal.

 
 
 
Raven Wing
Professor Guide
7.1.3  Raven Wing  replied to  livefreeordie @7.1    6 years ago
He is reversing much of the damage done by Obama, the Democrats, and the Establishment Republicans

Oh yeah....by alienating all our generations old allies and destroying our relations with them for his canoodling with our enemies for monetary benefit to his own pockets. Yeah...Trumps is really 'fixing' our country alright...he's 'fixing' to bring it to its knees and the American people as well. So ou should be very happy with 'Trump The Fixer.' MAGA.... (cough cough...)

 
 
 
livefreeordie
Junior Silent
7.1.4  livefreeordie  replied to  Explorerdog @7.1.2    6 years ago

Nonsense. It’s about reversing the increased controls over our lives and businesses.

 
 
 
livefreeordie
Junior Silent
7.1.5  livefreeordie  replied to  Raven Wing @7.1.3    6 years ago

This country by every measure is doing better and has restored critical relationships that Hussein Obama temporarily ruined

 
 
 
Explorerdog
Freshman Silent
7.1.6  Explorerdog  replied to  livefreeordie @7.1.5    6 years ago

Sure everyone's 401k, investments are tanking that is much better, our respect in the world is now a joke, trump couldn't even show up on time for a world summit and was wanting Russia admitted to the stage even thought hey have done nothing to warrant it in fact they are further away from a consensus, we have a leader that doesn't know a truth from a fabrication on a bet. ( Deleted, skirting  {SP} )

 
 
 
Studiusbagus
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7.1.7  Studiusbagus  replied to  livefreeordie @7.1.5    6 years ago
This country by every measure is doing better and has restored critical relationships that Hussein Obama temporarily ruined

Really? What relationships is that?

The rest of your bullshit is easy...there's an economic tsunami coming and Trump, like Bush is going to react way too late. 

In case you haven't noticed, the auto industry is pulling back, they are swamped with inventory, even Nissan is cutting back in the USA, Ford has all but eliminated a segment of their lines and looks to be headed for trouble. The big 3 are offering 0% apr for 7 years..there's a sign.

The retail sector is gasping it's last breaths and store closings are happening at a much quicker pace.

The healthcare replacement is a long gone memory, He's trying to weasel his way back in to the TPP, he's probably going to get shut out at the G7, and the summit is going to be an embarrassment for us.

So what did he repair again?

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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7.1.8  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  livefreeordie @7.1.4    6 years ago

Clappingthumbs upla de da

 
 
 
Raven Wing
Professor Guide
7.1.9  Raven Wing  replied to  livefreeordie @7.1.5    6 years ago
This country by every measure is doing better

Not by a long mile.....only to those who worship him as their new Messiah. I don't think Jesus would be so happy to know that he is now playing second fiddle to Trump the liar, adulterer and selling his country to its enemies.

 
 
 
Studiusbagus
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7.1.10  Studiusbagus  replied to  XXJefferson51 @7.1.8    6 years ago

Ignorance applauding bigotry.

 
 
 
Raven Wing
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7.1.11  Raven Wing  replied to  XXJefferson51 @7.1.8    6 years ago

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pat wilson
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7.1.12  pat wilson  replied to  Studiusbagus @7.1.10    6 years ago

Ignorance begets bigotry and bigotry begets ignorance.

A philosophical palindrome. smile.

 
 
 
Skrekk
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7.1.13  Skrekk  replied to  Explorerdog @7.1.2    6 years ago
Hence the term REGRESSIVE

In fact Trump has admitted that he wants to take the US back to the 1940s and 1950s, or even the golden years of the robber baron era.

In an interview during the 2016 presidential campaign Donald Trump said that his effort to "Make America Great Again" would return the country to the 1940s and 1950s. This is a "Leave it to Beaver" American Whiteopia, which was also a nightmare for anyone who was not a straight white man. In reality, this was an era of Jim Crow white supremacy when women were treated as second-class citizens and gays, lesbians and transgender people were stigmatized as being "mentally ill," "deviants" or "predators."

But Trump's "empire of disorientation" and its co-conspirators in the American right would be happy to bring America back much farther than to a mythic version of the 1950s or 1940s. They yearn to re-create the 19th-century Gilded Age, when there were few if any limits on the ruinous behavior of big business and the rich.

 
 
 
Studiusbagus
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7.1.14  Studiusbagus  replied to  livefreeordie @7.1.5    6 years ago

Funny you haven't returned to back up your claims...could it be because you were just blowing wind and cannot even fathom a credible answer? I think so.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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7.1.15  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  livefreeordie @7.1    6 years ago

Clappingthumbs upla de da

 
 
 
MrFrost
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7.1.16  MrFrost  replied to  livefreeordie @7.1.4    6 years ago
Nonsense. It’s about reversing the increased controls over our lives and businesses.

So you are pro-choice now? Congrats Larry! 

 
 
 
MrFrost
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7.1.17  MrFrost  replied to  livefreeordie @7.1    6 years ago
He is reversing much of the damage done by Obama

Examples, please.. 

 
 
 
Raven Wing
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8  Raven Wing    6 years ago

What I don't understand....I find it rather curious as to where her deep Christian faith was when she was destroying lives for her own monetary gain while criminally dealing drugs all that time? Did she 'see the light' while in prison while associating there with others just like her who are long time hardened criminals? Or was it a sudden play for good publicity to somehow justify her early release by pardon? 

Inquiring minds want to know. thinking

 
 
 
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Freshman Silent
8.1    replied to  Raven Wing @8    6 years ago
Did she 'see the light' while in prison while associating there with others just like her who are long time hardened criminals? Or was it a sudden play for good publicity to somehow justify her early release by pardon?

Some people do change for the better.

 
 
 
Studiusbagus
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8.1.1  Studiusbagus  replied to  @8.1    6 years ago
Some people do change for the better.

Some do, the overwhelming majority do not. I would not be surprised if she gets re-arrested before his first term ends.

 
 
 
devangelical
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8.1.2  devangelical  replied to  Studiusbagus @8.1.1    6 years ago

Trump is banking on that fact.

 
 
 
Raven Wing
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8.1.3  Raven Wing  replied to  @8.1    6 years ago

"Some people do change for the better."

Some do.....but, druggies don't. Not ever. I know....I have two of them in my own extended family and they have been in prison on and off for dealing drugs for most of their teen and adult life, dealing both inside and outside of prison.

So chances are that she will be back at it before the ink dries good on her pardon.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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8.1.4  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Studiusbagus @8.1.1    6 years ago

Many churches operate prison ministries to affect change in people who are there and to provide them with skills to use when they get out or live better there if there is no way they can get out.  These ministries even save people eternally who are on death row.  

 
 
 
Studiusbagus
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8.1.5  Studiusbagus  replied to  XXJefferson51 @8.1.4    6 years ago

Which shows you read headlines and get duped easily.

 You have zero idea what these ministries do or don't do.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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8.1.6  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Raven Wing @8.1.3    6 years ago

There was no pardon.  Just a commutation of her sentence after 22 years served.  

 
 
 
Studiusbagus
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8.3  Studiusbagus  replied to  Raven Wing @8    6 years ago
Did she 'see the light' while in prison while associating there with others just like her who are long time hardened criminals?

If I had a nickle for every time I saw that bullshit...preaching all day and then hanging in the cell trading sex and stories about the little boys they fucked. Fake Muslims of all cultures that would force the ramadan rules on the system and then dive on a ham sandwich. When their sentence was done, they'd be right back at what they were doing before they came in...I've seen so many repeats it used to make me sick to my stomach.

I actually had one that within a week of being conditionally released went and contacted his victim because his victim was now over 18 and he wanted to hook up.

 Just like outside, they use religion for control, so was she.

 
 
 
Raven Wing
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8.3.1  Raven Wing  replied to  Studiusbagus @8.3    6 years ago
Just like outside, they use religion for control, so was she.

I am willing to bet that if she has a nickle she'll be trying to buy to sell for three times that much.

 
 
 
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Freshman Silent
8.3.2    replied to  Raven Wing @8.3.1    6 years ago

Deleted CoC,  {SP}

Address issues and arguments, not individual members.

 
 
 
Studiusbagus
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8.3.3  Studiusbagus  replied to  Raven Wing @8.3.1    6 years ago

I'm willing to bet if she gets busted again it will be buried because it will reflect on "Orange Glo"

 
 
 
Raven Wing
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8.3.4  Raven Wing  replied to  Studiusbagus @8.3.3    6 years ago

"I'm willing to bet if she gets busted again it will be buried because it will reflect on "Orange Glo"

Yep. Indeed she served 22 years. But, I wonder how many of those she sold drugs to never lived to make it to 22 years old? And if she had that big of an organization before, she knows all the contacts and the ins and outs of starting up again. All she needs is some startup money, and that would be easy enough to get when you know all the insiders. In the world of being behind bars does not mean being out of business. It just means doing it from a different venue with a different clientele. And there are always ready buyers.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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9  seeder  XXJefferson51    6 years ago

If you listen to the liberal media, Donald Trump is a terrible racist and misogynist who hates minorities and women.

He apparently isn’t very good at it, however. On Wednesday, the president officially commuted the sentence of Alice Marie Johnson, an African-American woman who was sentenced to life in prison for a non-violent drug crime.

You might think that liberals, who have made drug legalization and criminal justice reform two of their banner issues, would be elated. You would be wrong.

As Johnson was freed after spending 21 years in prison, many bitter leftists chose not to celebrate her release or acknowledge Trump’s decision, but instead they chose to backhandedly bash the president.

“The View” host Joy Behar led the charge, declaring that the reason Trump had freed the black grandmother was so that he could boost his Twitter following.

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Yes, really.

Pointing out the fact that Trump met with Kim Kardashian West, the celebrity wife of Kanye West, before making his decision, Behar decided that her fame, not the extreme sentence for a non-violent elderly woman, was the reason the president commuted the sentence.

“Kim also has 112 million followers on Instagram and 60 million on Twitter. So, you know, if he is thinking of running again, he’s got that nice little constituency over there, so that is not a coincidence. … He has motives,” the television host declared, according to The Daily Caller.

Other liberals were equally ungracious.

Do you think liberals will attack Trump no matter what he does?     https://www.westernjournal.com/ct/libs-say-screw-you-to-minorities-attack-trump-for-freeing-elderly-black-woman/

 
 
 
Skrekk
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9.1  Skrekk  replied to  XXJefferson51 @9    6 years ago
Donald Trump is a terrible racist and misogynist who hates minorities and women.

True.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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9.1.1  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Skrekk @9.1    6 years ago

So much for the democrats interest in prison and sentencing reform.  

 
 
 
Studiusbagus
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9.1.2  Studiusbagus  replied to  XXJefferson51 @9.1.1    6 years ago
So much for the democrats interest in prison and sentencing reform.

Keep digging....The conservatives may give you lip service and you're obviously sucking it up. Prison reform is a hot button "Right now" Like Trumps healthcare bill was...a long gone failed promise.

 And since you added the sentencing part it's very obvious you only read headlines.

But none of that has been enough to get any federal reform legislation off the ground, in part because of all the financial interests – which scholars have termed the prison industrial complex – tied up in keeping people behind bars. Companies who provide facilities, food, healthcare, even telephone services – which bring in more than $1bn annually from prisons and jails alone – have all sought to protect those markets with lobbying on Capitol Hill.

Missing from this piece of legislation is the crucial issue of sentencing reform – as distinct from prison reform. While prison reform deals with how people who are already incarcerated are treated and may give them some faster pathways out, sentencing reform is the piece of the puzzle that dictates how many new people are going into prison – and for how long. Most experts say the high US rate of incarceration is a result of the dramatic increases to sentencing length that took place after crime waves in the 1970s and 80s. However, that’s an issue that Republicans, who control both houses of Congress and the White House, are less sold on.

Apparently history of your party is not your strong suit, especially if it means you would have to admit they were the problem.

A merican streets are much safer today than they were thirty years ago, and until recently most conservatives had a simple explanation: more prison beds equal less crime. This argument was a fulcrum of Republican politics for decades, boosting candidates from Richard Nixon to George H. W. Bush and scores more in the states. Once elected, these Republicans (and their Democratic imitators) built prisons on a scale that now exceeds such formidable police states as Russia and Iran, with 3 percent of the American population behind bars or on parole and probation.

Now that crime and the fear of victimization are down, we might expect Republicans to take a victory lap, casting safer streets as a vindication of their hard line. Instead, more and more conservatives are clambering down from the prison ramparts. Take Newt Gingrich, who made a promise of more incarceration an item of his 1994 Contract with America. Seventeen years later, he had changed his tune. “ There is an urgent need to address the astronomical growth in the prison population, with its huge costs in dollars and lost human potential,” Gingrich wrote in 2011. “The criminal-justice system is broken, and conservatives must lead the way in fixing it.”

Yeah, those pesky Democrats....More bullshit you've been fed and regurgitated.

But Donald Trump's campaign rhetoric, election and early actions alarmed many criminal justice reformers. Most damaging have been his appointment of Jeff Sessions as attorney general, Sessions' swift rollback of Obama-era reform policies and the harmful rhetoric that has often stigmatized immigrants and people of color as criminals.
Partially as a result, the nationwide momentum to fix our justice system has begun to stall, even at the state and local levels. We have already begun to see some efforts to roll back recent criminal justice victories in Louisiana , Alaska and even California . Advocates have soldiered on, but hope has been fading.
That's why I took heart when Jared Kushner -- whose father served time in a federal prison -- began to prioritize prison reform as one of his policy priorities at the Office of American Innovation. There seems to be a tug of war inside the Trump administration, with Kushner representing the more modern, reform-minded GOP approach.
 
 
 
Studiusbagus
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9.2  Studiusbagus  replied to  XXJefferson51 @9    6 years ago
If you listen to the liberal media, Donald Trump is a terrible racist and misogynist who hates minorities and women.

If you bother to follow court cases against him you'd come to the same conclusion. It seems just because he's doing what you want him to do, everything is just peachy and ethics be damned.

The right is so obvious with this.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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9.2.1  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Studiusbagus @9.2    6 years ago

As President he has done nothing that would make him a misogynist or a racist.  The topic of the seed though is his commutation of an African American woman’s prison sentence after 22 years.  Everything else is off topic to this seed.  

 
 
 
MrFrost
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9.3  MrFrost  replied to  XXJefferson51 @9    6 years ago

Don't need the media to see that trump is all of those things.

"Women? You gotta treat them like shit!!!"

"That face, just look at that face, who could vote for a face like that!!!??" (Trump talking about Carly Fiorina)

I mean, that list is almost endless.. Is trump a misogynist? Oh HELL yes, he is their fricking king got God's sake. 

Racist? Um, remember the waffle house shooting? And the brave young black kid that attacked the shooter and disarmed him? Did trump say anything? No. Remember the white guy that stabbed and killed two people in Oregon about a year ago? Did trump condemn it? No. When white people stormed a mosque in Canada and killed a bunch of black Muslims, did trump condemn them? Nope. And then there is this....

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bbl-1
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10  bbl-1    6 years ago

Uh gee Alice Johnson, it was the conservative bible beaters that 'legislated' your life term.

As for Trump, he's just playing a game, he doesn't know you, doesn't want to know you and most certainly could care less about you.

Gawd saved you huh? 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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10.1  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  bbl-1 @10    6 years ago

God can save anyone who wants to be saved.  

 
 
 
MrFrost
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11  MrFrost    6 years ago

Nuf said...CrT4XZU0AAQSvb.jpg

 
 
 
devangelical
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11.1  devangelical  replied to  MrFrost @11    6 years ago

She promised trump she wouldn't release their porn video until after he was dead.

 
 
 
Krishna
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12  Krishna    6 years ago

Alice Johnson Thanks Jesus Christ And President Trump For Sentence Commutation

Two questions:  What did Jesus Christ (Peace Be Upon Him) have to do with it?

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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12.1  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Krishna @12    6 years ago

Two things.  One He as her personal Lord and Savior forgave her all her sins and told her to go and sin no more.  Second, it’s the headline and in the body of the article that upon her release, she thanked both Jesus and Trump for her new freedom.  I hope that helps.  

 
 

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