This Sad, Embarrassing Wreck of a Man by George Will
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This sad, embarrassing wreck of a man
By George Will in the Washington Post 07-18-2018
America’s child president had a play date with a KGB alumnus, who surely enjoyed providing day care. It was a useful, because illuminating, event: Now we shall see how many Republicans retain a capacity for embarrassment.
Jean Kirkpatrick, a Democrat closely associated with such Democratic national security stalwarts as former senator Henry Jackson and former senator and former vice president Hubert Humphrey, was President Ronald Reagan’s ambassador to the United Nations. In her speech at the 1984 Republican National Convention in Dallas, she explained her disaffection from her party: “They always blame America first.” In Helsinki, the president who bandies the phrase “America First” put himself first, as always, and America last, behind President Vladimir Putin’s regime.
Because the Democrats had just held their convention in San Francisco, Kirkpatrick branded the “blame America first” cohort as “San Francisco Democrats.” Thirty-four years on, how numerous are the “Helsinki Republicans”?
What, precisely, did President Trump say about the diametrically opposed statements by U.S. intelligence agencies (and the Senate Intelligence Committee) and by Putin concerning Russia and the 2016 U.S. elections? Precision is not part of Trump’s repertoire: He speaks English as though it is a second language that he learned from someone who learned English last week. So, it is usually difficult to sift meanings from Trump’s word salads. But in Helsinki he was, for him, crystal clear about feeling no allegiance to the intelligence institutions that work at his direction and under leaders he chose.
Speaking of Republicans incapable of blushing — those with the peculiar strength that comes from being incapable of embarrassment — consider Sen. Lindsey O. Graham (S.C.), who for years enjoyed derivative gravitas from his association with Sen. John McCain (Ariz.). Graham tweeted about Helsinki: “Missed opportunity by President Trump to firmly hold Russia accountable for 2016 meddling and deliver a strong warning regarding future elections.” A “missed opportunity” by a man who had not acknowledged the meddling?
Contrast Graham’s mush with this on Monday from McCain, still vinegary: “Today’s press conference in Helsinki was one of the most disgraceful performances by an American president in memory.” Or this from Arizona’s other senator, Jeff Flake (R): “I never thought I would see the day when our American president would stand on the stage with the Russian President and place blame on the United States for Russian aggression.” Blame America only.
Defense Secretary Jim Mattis, White House Chief of Staff John F. Kelly, Director of National Intelligence Daniel Coats and others might believe that they must stay in their positions lest there be no adult supervision of the Oval playpen. This is a serious worry, but so is this: Can those people do their jobs for someone who has neither respect nor loyalty for them?
Like the purloined letter in Edgar Allan Poe’s short story with that title, collusion with Russia is hiding in plain sight. We shall learn from special counsel Robert S. Mueller III’s investigation whether in 2016 there was collusion with Russia by members of the Trump campaign. The world, however, saw in Helsinki something more grave — ongoing collusion between Trump, now in power, and Russia. The collusion is in what Trump says (refusing to back the United States’ intelligence agencies) and in what evidently went unsaid (such as: You ought to stop disrupting Ukraine, downing civillian airliners, attempting to assassinate people abroad using poisons, and so on, and on).
Americans elected a president who — this is a safe surmise — knew that he had more to fear from making his tax returns public than from keeping them secret. The most innocent inference is that for decades he has depended on an American weakness, susceptibility to the tacky charisma of wealth, which would evaporate when his tax returns revealed that he has always lied about his wealth, too. A more ominous explanation might be that his redundantly demonstrated incompetence as a businessman tumbled him into unsavory financial dependencies on Russians. A still more sinister explanation might be that the Russians have something else, something worse, to keep him compliant.
The explanation is in doubt; what needs to be explained — his compliance — is not. Granted, Trump has a weak man’s banal fascination with strong men whose disdain for him is evidently unimaginable to him. And, yes, he only perfunctorily pretends to have priorities beyond personal aggrandizement. But just as astronomers inferred, from anomalies in the orbits of the planet Uranus, the existence of Neptune before actually seeing it, Mueller might infer, and then find, still-hidden sources of the behavior of this sad, embarrassing wreck of a man.
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I never agreed with George Will before butt Will came around to my way of thinking on Trump...
Well, you know now that Will, will be considered an "establishment" Republican, whatever the fuck that is, by the RWer's on here and, other sites, imagine, George Will, who was once one of the stalwarts of the Tea Party being considered middle of the road in anything political, how far to the right must the Republican Party go to please the base that supports this POS POTUS?
Is it any wonder the once Grand Old Party of Lincoln is now known merely as "the gop"?
Better yet, "the goop".
While I am in no way much of a Trump supporter myself, I have to say I consider former president Barak Obama to be much more of a embarrassment to this country than President Trump. That being said I expect the progressive leftist liberal condemnations of my comment to begin in 5 4 3 2 1.....
The 25th Amendment to the Constitution of the United States of America Section 4...
This won't happen as long as we have Pence, Ryan and, McConnell sitting in the seats of power in the Congress.
It Pence Ryan and McConnell have one bit it survival instinct they will come around on Trump. Slowly they turn, step by step, inch by inch and then POW, Big R Republicans back Articles of Impeachment ala Nixon. It was not Democrats who finally forced Tricky Dicky out of office. It was the Big R Republicans who wanted to save their party, their honor and their paycheck...
Back then we didn't have Citizens United and, the Koch's padding the pockets of Republicans.
Can't Congress do something about Citizens United?
All the dirty money in the world cannot buy the American voter if we get off our butts and vote Nov 6th...
Citizens United allowed multinational corporations and foreign powers to purchase our sacred republic...
Nov 6dth conscientious voters can reverse our course toward a totalitarian dictatorship if it is not too late.
I wish they would but, most of the people sitting in Congress get their money from Citizens United participants.
How many times have you seen Democrats or, people on the left turn out to vote in the mid-terms? I hope you are right, I hope we see that Democratic wave in November but, I'm starting to doubt it.
Then it's up to us to do something about Citizens United....VOTE BLUE!
2006 was the last time but not even the catastrophe which was Bush II compares with what Trump has wrought.
If Trump gets his way and, puts a far right justice in the SCOTUS it might not matter.
It took six years to get that done and, in the 2010 election it was all changed back, it's been that way for eight long years now, as I said I hope your right.
Me, too...
If George F'ing Will is voting Democratic Nov 6th we can hope there are enough Big R Republicans to neuter trump.
There's no smoking gun there. Dark money spending was down over 40% from 2012 to 2016. From 308 million down to 181 in 2016. Besides, it's irrefutable that Hillary out raised/outspent Trump by over 30% and still lost.
Nothing to see here, move along.
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The good news is if the NRA can hide their money, so can Planned Parenthood
Everybody better get ready
There is a fire causes smoke. Voters are perhaps smarter and more motivated than before...
Considering all the winger articles denying a blue wave coming we can hope for a sea change.
FYI, I like Joe Crowley but he did not represent his district and sadly took them all for granted.
Ocasio-Cortez beat Million$ with a grassroots effort of family and friends. Possibilities do exist.
I believe millions of People who were not motivated for Clinton are now motivated Anti-Trump.
The NRA is not tax payer funded, PP is. I fail to see what your point is.
PP doesn't get any private donations?
PP performs SERVICES covered by Medicaid and Medicare. They are NOT 'funded' by taxpayers, they are paid for SERVICES rendered.
PP most certainly is funded by the government. The amount given them is allocated as a line item in the budget.
Did i say they didn't?
Irrelevant. You are trying to compare apples and atom bombs.
PP is tax payer funded. Period.
Over 50% of their funding comes from taxpayers and therefore they ARE NOT a privately funded organization like the NRA and thankfully can't operate under the same rules. If they want to, it's pretty simple. Don't take any taxpayer money.
is that like corporations s are peoples too
hell bent on profits' purchased via purchased pols
under the guise of Citizens United to Divide US all for vision so short, and so small...
Prove it. Cite the bill, section and clause.
Again, Clinton outspent Trump in 2016, by a wide margin. If money buys elections, she should have won.
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The fox is not in the hen house, the fox is not in the hen house .....
Jimmy picked up a loaf of bread for dinner, Jimmy picked up a loaf of bread for dinner ....
Everyone mombo jombo your dogfaces down to the banana patch ...... end message ....
break, break ....
Actually, no. I am CITING the difference between 'funding' and REVENUE. If REVENUE is 'funding' then Lockheed Martin, Boeing and thousands of other companies are 'government funded. Oh and you can add every fucking nursing home in the country...
No it is not. Exclamation point.
False. Over 50% of their REVENUE comes from government reimbursements for SERVICES rendered. Just like the US government reimburses Boeing for designing and building the new Air Force One.
Ehhhhht .... where does that money come from? Liberal money tree's?
Please point one of those out for me if you would. I could use some extra money for beer-thirty tonite ....
From government coffers. The same place the reimbursements to Mar A Lago and Turnberry come from for Trump's golf trips.
So you can't show that the “ Government Health Services Reimbursements & Grants ” constituted the largest source of funding for Planned Parenthood in 2016-2017, providing 37 percent of the organization’s revenue. The majority of Planned Parenthood’s expenses, 60 percent, were for “medical services.” is merely a "line item" as you claimed. It is a reimbursement program as admitted by a link within your own link.
The money reimbursed to PP is for cancer screenings, wellness checkups, medical services, adoption services and contraceptives for those who can't afford them. Not a dime of tax payer money goes for abortion.
If you believed circumcision was horrid and against your religious beliefs would you demand that no tax payer money goes to reimburse hospitals for the many other health services they provide and Medicare and Medicaid money they receive for treating the sick and elderly just because some parents choose to have the doctors perform a circumcision even though the government never pays for it? Well that is exactly the situation at PP where 97% of the services they provide have nothing to do with abortion and they only receive 37% of their funding from government reimbursements.
Not even a good try at a redirect ..... you are losing your touch.
Here, allow me to refresh your short term memory in context:
NRA - NOT tax payer funded
PP - IS tax payer funded
Make the connection yet?
What I see is a LACK of connection, specifically between you and a vocabulary. Your comments aren't cogent and your proclamations aren't convincing, mostly because they are based on BS. 'Cuz I said so' doesn't fly around here...
Lol, i guess not. Still disconnected eh? Unfortunately for you the accuracy and acuity of my comments is spot on. That it doesn't support your narrative du jour is your problem not mine. My narrative is truth and i know that pisses you off when it contradicts the bullshit you try to peddle regularly.
Best of luck with your delusions .....
Here, allow me to enlighten you on the difference:
NRA - Does not perform or provide any covered goods or services for Americans.
PP - Does provide cancer screenings, health checkups, medical services and family planning that ARE covered by insurance such as Medicare and Medicaid. In fact other insurance companies also reimburse PP for services rendered just like the federal government does. 97% of their services have nothing to do with abortion.
Try to keep up ..... my comment was not about who offers what goods to what people. See if you can go high enough on thread to figure it out ...... you can do it ..... i know you can.
I like both the NRA and PP. Both do great work
Your narrative lacks all credulity. Your BS doesn't piss me off, it makes me laugh.
While your comments do indeed 'contradict' mine, they fail to refute the facts that I cited.
That's how y'all roll and lacks good faith.
As for your claim that I peddle bullshit, I call on you to quote one of my comments from this thread that's bullshit. Please include a link to prove that it's bullshit. Shouldn't be hard right?
I like this NRA & Trump supporter:
That's right, your false comment is that PP is tax payer FUNDED. It isn't. The avenue through which they are reimbursed for the SERVICES they perform IS. I realize that nuance isn't y'all's strong suit so I can see why you have issues with understanding the difference.
Lol you wouldn't know truth if it smacked you in the face and called you momma.
My post are all clear, concise and factual. Which you clearly refuse to acknowledge since they oppose the horseshit you're trying to shovel so i'll leave you to the little circle jerk you insist on having here.
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Galen: "Back then we didn't have Citizens United and, the Koch's padding the pockets of Republicans."
You: "There's no smoking gun there. Dark money spending was down over 40% from 2012 to 2016."
Trout: "The good news is if the NRA can hide their money, so can Planned Parenthood"
You: "The NRA is not tax payer funded, PP is. I fail to see what your point is."
Dulay: "PP performs SERVICES covered by Medicaid and Medicare. They are NOT 'funded' by taxpayers, they are paid for SERVICES rendered. "
You: "PP is tax payer funded. Period. "
Dulay: "Actually, no. I am CITING the difference between 'funding' and REVENUE. If REVENUE is 'funding' then Lockheed Martin, Boeing and thousands of other companies are 'government funded."
You: "NRA - NOT tax payer funded PP - IS tax payer funded Make the connection yet?"
Me: "NRA - Does not perform or provide any covered goods or services for Americans. PP - Does provide cancer screenings, health checkups, medical services and family planning that ARE covered by insurance such as Medicare and Medicaid. In fact other insurance companies also reimburse PP for services rendered just like the federal government does. 97% of their services have nothing to do with abortion."
Seems a pretty clear line of thought as I am again pointing out what every other logical post has, that PP is not getting "funded" by the government, they are being reimbursed for services rendered. As a private company that simply accept reimbursements from insurance companies and the government, they can choose to not disclose their donor list just like the NRA. Why is this so hard for some to understand? I hope walking you by the hand through it allowed you to understand the very basic facts here.
Don't you think they all knew about Trumps connections to Russians?
Only for family planning and std/aids prevention. They also take Medicaid.
I wish to congratulate Team Red for their brilliant success in derailing this conversation, from Trump's fealty to Putin to... Planned Parenthood??? What the Fuck???
I do not wish to congratulate any NT members who allow themselves to loose focus so easily....
That's hilarious.
What 'great work' does the NRA do?
From your link Shrekk:
'Bobby Wilson, who is running to represent a southern Arizona district, told The Associated Press that he's not trying to hide anything. He says his mother was "insane" and shot at him with a rifle when he was in bed in their Oklahoma farmhouse one night in 1963. He then shot and killed her — Wilson's sister also died that night, and the house caught on fire.'
What happened to his sister? Very interesting that the house caught on fire as well.
Hmmmmmmmmm
sorry, Bob
Nice story ark. Now, how about you cite the bill, section and clause. You claimed there was a line item in the budget. PROVE IT.
See
NRA protects the 2nd amendment I strongly support right to choice and right to bear arms, maybe to some that is a rare combination
And apparently they collude with Russia too. They certainly haven't been looking too closely at who signs their donation checks or who lobbies on their behalf.
So do liberals, progressives and Democrats. We're just not insane enough to think that means zero gun safety laws. You can support the 2nd amendment AND support universal background checks, bans on bump stocks, large capacity magazines and military style assault weapons that tend to be the choice of mass shooters. I have no problem with responsible gun ownership, it's a protected right, but that does not mean I've lost my mind and think just any Joe Shmo should be able to buy any guns they want with no check other than a gun show salesperson asking "Are you a felon? No? Okay, here you go."
There is the disconnect. The reimbursements are tax dollars. Period. That is unless you can prove they come from somewhere else. Which you haven't, since you can't. And for the last time, the NRA does not receive any tax dollars. None, zero, zip.
That is the difference, that was my point, but then again you know that don't you?
I guess you must like pissing into the wind and telling yourself it's just rain ....
My apology.
The topic is not whether or not 2 non profits are a burden to US taxpayers due to uncollected taxes
or if the particular reimbursements they receive for services rendered under Medicare or Medicaid constitutes taxpayer "funding".
Comparing NRA to PP is off topic and it stops now.
Since there are so many off topic comments on the topic, perhaps one of the participants will seed or author an article about the same.
Every hospital accepts "reimbursements" aka insurance payments for covered services, from the government. I don't happen to believe people should be getting fake implants and other unnecessary cosmetic surgery, does that mean I think we should shut down all the plastic surgery clinics because sometimes Medicaid or Medicare might be paid to plastic surgeons for necessary plastic surgery for children with cleft palates or accident injury reconstruction? Of course not. Sure, I don't want my tax dollars going for some persons boob job, but I know my tax dollars are only going to the clinic for covered non-elective plastic surgeries. The same is true of PP where the only money going to them from the government is to pay for covered services and none of it goes to abortions. How hard is that for you to understand? Or are you not able to separate the two and think we should get upset at any plastic surgeon who accepts government reimbursements for covered services but also performs surgery we might not agree with like gender reassignment?
But back to the main point, all of those entities are private companies, the plastic surgeon, the Hospital, Planned Parenthood, even the NRA, so regardless of which ones accept reimbursements from the government, they have their own rights to lobby and campaign for political change. They are not a "government funded program" which would require them to be politically impartial.
Like maybe he's been a Russian agent since 1987? A conspiracy theory, sure, but one that seems to be gaining traction
Putin's Russian banker friends own the mortgage on Trump and Co and they have plenty of blackmail material in their vaults to pull out at any time if Trump does not toe Putin's line. Putin Own Trump! I don't see how anyone can still deny the fact our American President is a Russian State Intelligene Asset. I don't know about you butt to me that is intolerable and it should be to everyone in Congress left, right and center...
Trump reminds me more of Lonesome Rhodes from A Face In The Crowd. Lonesome Rhodes channeling Donald Trump : "This whole country's just like my flock of sheep! Rednecks, crackers, hillbillies, hausfraus, shut-ins, pea-pickers - everybody that's got to jump when somebody else blows the whistle. They don't know it yet, but they're all gonna be 'Fighters for Trump'. They're mine!
Great comparison. I also believe that Trump is Willie Stark (All The Kings Men).
I keep thinking Greg Stillson
Once seen the utter corruption of a human soul cannot be unseen. Corrupted souls out themselves...
If seemingly affable heads begins to spin and all kind of awful shit comes spewing out we remember.
Shades of Joe McCarthy in Trump are real as he was a protege of McCarthy' acolytes Roy Cohn and Roger Stone.
Oh definitely.
"The missiles are flying. Hallelujah Hallelujah!"
Ironic that a McCarthy and Cohn acolyte is now Putin's acolyte, eh? But in reality all three used many of the same unethical tactics.
good info. Thanks
Will is saying what many others have said, but he has a way with words which makes it entertaining as well as true.
At long last Big R Republicans will denounce the goddamn gop and trumpism.
Could our president be any bigger of a liar or any smaller of a man? Could he be more vulgar? No...
I wouldn't say this, just yet, remember this?
Yes that is true but it is also true that Trump and his fans are a bunch of shameless anti-Americans...
The US used to stand for Truth, Justice and The American Way. Not it is Trump first and the USA last.
And I agree that your own blind 'party first' loyalty and devotion to our traitorous President knows no bounds
He is and yes, he will be.
I only meant in comparison to normal humans not safely institured. Sans criminal insanity. Non-sociopaths...
Of course Trump will top himself acting the fool embarrassing us to the world. He has no low too low to go.
Evening..Must admit we were somewhat perplexed and stunned when he said that..Certainly made headlines here...He is certainly not a fluent or clear speaker nor does he have that air of confidence when speaking. But I guess it is what it is....We do tend to hold our breath though wondering what he will say next....Gulp...
Good Morning from NYC where it is just 9:20 A.M. and where the majority find Trumpisms cringe worthy.
Take it from those who know him best. Trump is The Original Short Fingered Vulgarian. King of Vulgaria...
Same here shona. I myself keep holding my breath as to when Trump will hand Putin a copy of the American Constitution and a match. Then applaud while Putin sets fire to it.
He meant what he said the first time. It was the "correction" which was the rather obvious lie.
Gidday NYC...We are sort of glad he is your leader and not ours..though ours leave a lot to be desired at times..Well it is nearly midnight here so your today will be become my yesterday...And on that note I will say good night and have a great day...
Good Night and Sweet Dreams. I've went to Australia, for two weeks. It is on bucket list to stay lots longer...
You can join up with Trump and his trashing of the US.
Trump is like a yugeeeeeeeee funnel web spider with a bad comb over.
The far right on NT will call George Will a RINO, and denounce any Republican who does not fall in line with this disaster of a POTUS. I don't know what they truly think he is in their minds, but on the last installment of Real Time, Bill Maher introduced him with "you always kept my liberalism honest", to which Will interrupted with "oxymoron, but go ahead …". I'm sure they would cheer him enthusiastically out of the other side of their mouth for that.
The far right on NT think everyone to the political left of Alex Jones is a RINO. Bless their low down hearts...
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his defenders
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Do you ever read your comments before hitting the post button?
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Another Orange conman toddler in chief lie (he's an ignorant asswipe): Link -
Trump made another boo-boo, describing his much-desired meeting at Windsor Castle on Friday with the queen as a special honor. "We met with the queen, who is absolutely a terrific person, where she reviewed her Honor Guard for the first time in 70 years, they tell me ," he said.
Who told him that? Surely no one at Windsor Castle, because it's not true. The queen, 92, has been Her Majesty since 1952; at 66 years and counting, it's the longest reign in British history but it's not 70 years yet
Secondly, the queen meets foreign dignitaries practically every week and regularly inspects her Honor Guard at many ceremonies. She has met 12 sitting presidents, including Trump , and pacing down lines of scarlet-clad troops is a regular feature of the pageantry the British royals put on for guests.
oh my, I'm sitting here gaggling
a way, as Pinocchio now thinks he is Gepeto
with know strings attached,
just blue a tooth, like a hooker doin a line of lead sinkers, that are boy ants , till uncle is said n herd,
from those drowning in the absurd
brought about by an Orange turdull, that won't blush or brush his internal cheeks turned
by a shell
gamed by the one who putin him on his back...again
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Not nearly as embarrassed as true patriots are of this joke of a President and his gullible sycophant supporters.
Rave on in your defense of Trump, it will not help make you appear to be more of an American.
I'm not the one "raving" here Raven but if thinking so helps you sleep at night, knock yourself out. No skin off my nose.
it does help ME sleep
Good, then i've done my good deed for the day.
Enjoy your NT improved rest.
Says a protector of Putin's puppet, who just TODAY defended Russia, making his pathetic lie of a misspoke n't with his words a few hours ago. WTF went on in that private Putin meeting? It seems clear 'Mr Putin' gave 'Donald' his orders, and the pussy has been following them to the last detail! PUTIN HUMILIATED TRUMP AND THE USA, AND REPUBLICANS ARE STILL TRYING TO LOOK THE OTHER WAY. Trumpublicans (anybody who supports Trump, in words and deeds) are all on team Russia. I call that treason, hell, a decade ago the Dixie Chicks were called traitors for merely being embarrassed by Bush while in London! How the tides have turned as they embrace treason in their neverending quest to protect Trump/Russia. Trump has openly taken Putin's side in everything . And taken a huge shit on the USA.
Exactly. Says it all about you and how you think of America and its people. It may not be any skin off your own nose, but, your rabid defense and thus encouragement of Trump and what he is doing to harm America, and subsequently its people, shows that you put party first over America.
The only rabid thing here is your hatred of Trump and that hatred will eat you alive. Here is where you say it won't but we both know differently don't we? It will and for no good reason.
I'll pray for you Raven. Regardless of your beliefs, I think you will need all the help you can get.
can u prey for n on me as well ?
I'm embarrassed to call you fellow Americans, if that's what you really are.
For clarification, are there any REAL AMERICANS who don't support Trump?
I think there are a lot more who don't support him than do. However, with many on the right, party loyalty comes first over country.
Save it for yourself. I don't need nor want your prayers. Anyone who supports Trump can't have that much pull with the man upstairs.
This is your comment Sparty. You may want to re read it and see how you have done exactly this in this 9.2 comment...Referring to members as ''goose stepping'' a Nazi reference.
You really should be more embarrassed to have made that comment. I can assure you that the vast majority of NT members are Americans, many of which have served their country. Yes Sparty, I am an American and because some disagree with you, you chose to question their status as American's and throw in ''goose stepping''....Truly a sad day on NT.
It's a sad period for our Country. I can't believe how easily the russians have been able to encourage hatred of our fellow countrymen/women.
I don't like the conservative ideology, but I've never called them my enemy. It's sickening to see so many "patriots" do just that.
Wow, you really have become partisan. That's sad Sparty. really sad.
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Every patriotic American hates the scumbag traitor, Trump, and wears that hatred as a badge of honor.
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I want one!
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Plenty .... the ones who don't hold an over the top level of hate for that which they simply disagree with. Disagreement doesn't equal hatred for those folks.
Why do you cooperate with derails onto Obama?
DO NOT FEED THE TROLLS!
Nah, it's not sad at all, not really. I simply fight back on the over the top left wing wing hatred clearly on display here regularly by some. What is sad though is that you apparently can't or won't see that and/or you apparently agree with them.
Sorry to see that fiery. Very sorry to see that.
You should learn to read your own links,
There are times when "feeding the trolls" is actually starving their rhetoric, I pick and, chose when to feed them, this is one of those times.
Look, Trump is a disaster from the get. He has never been a quality person of integrity...that is who we are expected to see as a normal run of the mill politican? Really...that's not ever going to happen especially after his behavior in Helsinki.
So lets not pretend this about left vs right, it is about a disgusting POS who at the very least acts like he is beholden to putin.
This is so outrageous it's shocking that smart people like you are supporting him. It makes no sense. This is not a partisan matter, this is about the security of our country against a foreign government who intends to destroy us.
Brava!
Thank you. I really am quite shocked that people here choose to pick sides right vs left. I guarantee that if we do not secure our election system, this will happen again and again. It will happen to the right as soon as someone sees Putins success, they will try to replicate.
We have got to come together on this. The right has to stop denying it happened.
We disagree. It's the left that has been spaz'g out since Nov 2016. Endlessly, non stop, every time Trump takes a breath. They ARE making this about left vs right. That is what this horseshit "resist" movement is all about The left is carrying that huge chip on their shoulder to battle everyday since.
Don't try to shovel me the shinola that it isn't. I didn't fall off the turnip truck yesterday. It is planned divisiveness IMO and the left has a large roll in making it that way. Period.
It's outrageous to me that you overreact the way you are and that is exactly what i think you're doing but i know you disagree with that and this is going nowhere fast ..... so i'll leave you with this.
Had Hillary not been such a disrespectful, deceitful, arrogant, lying piece of shit Trump would have never won. Not even close. So if you want to be pissed off at someone for the current state of affairs be pissed off at her and the Dems who helped her make that happen in the first place.
Buh bye firery but don't worry ..... you'll always have your NV mutual admiration society here to back you up. No matter what ..... you'll have that going for you.
Just like it was the right that was bonkers spaz'g out when Obama was elected. Funny how that Karma stuff works, eh?
The right couldn't stand the idea of a black man being President. In America of all things. And left no stone unturned to defile, denigrate, demean and make up all sorts of lies and false accusations regarding his fitness for being President, and also denigrated his wife and even some did that to his children.
If the right can't take it, then they should not be in such a rabid rush to dish it out from their end.
Really? You honestly believe Obama was treated as bad as Trump has been? Really?
No. Obama was not treated as bad as Trump has been. He was treated FAR WORSE than Trump has ever been thus far, and Obama's endless hate filled assault lasted for not only the full 8 years of his Presidential tenure, but, continues ever today, involving him in matters that he has nothing to do with just to have an excuse to try to cover or excuse Trumps throwing America under the bus.
So don't try to play dumb about what you know has happened and is still happening even today with Obama. The right wingers here STILL full of hate and condemnation even after Obama no longer has anything to do with the WH.
Only your fellow party first buds here will buy your rotten tomato.
Thank you Ravenwing. Unreal that anyone could say that Rump is being treated badly much less worse than Obama.
Don't bother. He's made it very clear.
Thats a bunch of partisan bologna. The resist movement is about Trump and the russian collusion. If you were a real patriot you'd remove your partisan blinders and face the truth.
Bye Felicia.
It is pathetic that ANYONE thinks that Donald trump merits a treatment favorable to what a dignified individual like Obama received. Not that Obama got favorable treatment from the right, but he deserved it infinitely more than Trump does. Do you think you can create a meritorious equivalency just buy saying so?
Trump has lied to the American people thousands of times since he entered politics. He has lied about important things and he has lied about meaningless trivia. He has given succor and cover to racists. He is a crook. He is a cheat. He is accused of sexual assault of strangers.
But vis a vis Obama , there is only one thing we need to know about Trump - he was the king birther from 2011 and forward from that time. Even though the state of Hawaii had TWICE , prior to Trump becoming a birther, OFFCIALLY declared that Obama's birth certificate had been personally inspected in the state archives by the head of the state of Hawaii health dept. , something that Trump could have verified with the state of Hawaii by simply picking up the phone and calling them, he made a production out of going on tv for many months pushing a ridiculous conspiracy theory, and then lying about sending "detectives" to Hawaii who were finding out "incredible" information.
Trump, as a human being, doesn't belong in the same breath as Obama. How dare you?
Trump has certainly earned more derision and ridicule. Obama was hated by the right wing bigots more for who he was and what he represented than any actual policy he implemented. Sure, a lot of them used things like the ACA to vilify him, but then when the Republicans tried to take it away even the poor white trash rose up demanding they not lose their coverage which shut down every Republican bill to nullify it. With Trump just about everything he's done, from his initial unconstitutional Muslim ban, the statements about pussy grabbing, the 19 credible women accusing him of sexual assault, the petulant tweets to dictators, the disrespect shown to our allies and NATO, his cozying up with and praising authoritarian dictators, his disrespect for at least two gold star families, his attempts to pay off a porn actress to keep her quiet about their affair, his attacks on any media that hasn't been one of his sycophants even going so far as to say he should look into having some of their licenses pulled, his constant attacks on the majority of Americans who didn't vote for him and don't support him, his over 2000 lies in the first 18 months, his decision to play golf far more than Obama did even after he had insulted and derided Obama for golfing, his doubling of the membership fees at his golf courses and choice not to divest from his hotels and companies where he is clearly profiting off the office of the President, his statements about how he wished he could date his daughter, I mean the list goes on and on and on.
With President Obama they had to invent things to be mad at so their bigotry didn't show too much. They claimed he was born in Kenya (lie), claimed he was gay (lie), claimed he was a secret Muslim (lie), claimed he was going to take all their guns away (passed two gun laws that expanded gun rights), claimed he was going to round up all the religious right and conservative Christians and send them to FEMA camps (never happened). They had to work hard to mask their racism behind a veneer of civic concern, the problem is most of them have no clue how the government works let alone what "civics" means. There were of course many who just openly displayed their bigotry with memes and signs of the Obamas pictured as apes or paramilitary black panthers, some just couldn't hide their racist hate anymore, and those folk sure are glad Trump was elected.
I'm 54 years old. I was raised never to use the word hate, and I have not ever until Trump. He is the only one who has earned my complete disdain.
It's so clear when it is all laid out like that. How anyone expect trump to receive any respect from vast swathes of people is beyond me. He has never respected anyone. He doesn't even respect them. See how his tariffs are harming farmers...for example.
That is what gets me the most. Most of the ire about trump is because of the words and lies that constantly spew from his mouth and his actions. He had been the same despicable human being that he was, when he was running around New York for decades. It is not like people all the sudden had disdain for him. It has been there for years, even before he decided he was a republican and decided to run.
My current disdain is for people that more or less just enable him.
I was raised the same. My Grandmother told me to never say hate. She said it was ok to dislike people just not hate.
Though some make it very hard.
The right came unglued because Obama wore a tan suit, went on about it for months. Trump has a private closed door meeting with Putin and the right wing cheers... Case closed.
It sounds like we had the same Grandmother.
That's why we're going through a reactionary right-wing phase today. It was just to much stress for them to have a black guy get elected in landslides twice.
To everyone who commented above me...if that doesn't convince the trump supporters here, nothing will.
That is where we are.
And the only bigger traitors to America than Trump are his defenders.
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Indeed. They are truly offenders to all real Americans for all walks of life, all various political beliefs, of our country and what it has stood for for hundreds of years. And most of all, offenders of those who gave their lives to defend America and its people from our enemies over the many years of its existence.
Trump's actions with Putin is a slap in the face of the many men and women who have given their lives in defense of America, and those who have suffered the physical, mental and emotional pain in their own defense of our country.
I find it more in tune to a bazooka Blast to the face, to those that HAVE FACED Musket Ball Blasts, Mustard Gas, Radiation, Hell Fire and the Heavenly Bitter Cold Barrage of a collage to form a more perfect Union for ALL OF US here in America.
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Sadly, that is true. The evil that Trump has encouraged and instilled in many here in America toward our fellow human beings will sadly take some time to heal. The fact that it only took one man such as Trump to bring our country's humanity to its knees in such a short period of time is telling of many here in America.
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Unfortunately you are correct. I have not seen this much white hatred of all other skin colors and ethnic backgrounds since I lived in the South many years ago. It seems that Trump has reopened the doors to Neo-Nazi, KKK and flat out racial hatred and discrimination in America that has not been present at such a wide spread level in many years. It seems this is the America that Trump and his supporters want and are determined to have. It seems as if Treason has become their new reason.
But, that is not the America that our men and women in uniform lost their life and limbs to defend
I love this one......yet another racist, homophobic and xenophobic Trump supporter who's whining that his "Freedums of Speech" are being infringed because a university just revoked an athletic scholarship because the dude is a racist, homophobic and xenophobic Trump supporting moron. LOL......these folks are literally too dumb to breathe. They'd be more honest if they just wore white dunce caps.
I would say the left are the bigger traitors. After all Putin wanted to create chaos in American politics and the liberal and the left are following ihis wishes to the letter.
Translation of his ''apology''
I lost my scholarship and I'm screwed...
To bad, so sad.
Nooooooo..........now who would think that you would say something like that. I love the way all the Trump supporters here on NT are falling all over themselves try ting to find a way to blame everything on anyone and everyone but the one person that bears the primary blame. Fascinating. But, not unexpected.
Now that they can't deny Trump is a total traitor, they're saying: "Yeah, but the Democrats are bigger traitors." Hilarious.
Very true. I can't determine if that is because they can't face the truth of their being duped by their idol Traitor in Chief, or if they are truly just that vacant between the ears.
It's classic projection of whatever they're actually guilty of. As their Fuhrer said "I'm not a puppet. You're the puppet."
For years it has been evident whatever nefarious the gop accuses Dems of the gop is doing...
Soooo, we should just forget that Putin sent spy's to the U.S. and, got his cyber guys to hack into voter records and, the DNC and, the RNC and, offered to help Trump win the election? Got it, let Putin do whatever he wants in the U.S. as long as it makes you feel better.
As I said. The left is doing exactly what Putin wants .They are following his plan. Not surprising really .The democrats have been following orders from Moscow for decades
I don't believe there were and Dems at the meeting between Putin and Trump, so what input and influence did they have on that meeting for Putin? Do try to keep up.
If anyone is playing into Putin's hands, it's Trump and his fellow offenders....eh....defenders.
They are such tools of the Russians they just take their orders from what ever underling Putin directs them with
Yep.....and Trump is one of the biggest ones. And he is so totally happy to obey. Glad that you agree.
Yep, Trump proved that after that private meeting when he got his orders from Putin. He was absolutely terrified of Putin, deferred to him as the leader/handler every time, he still does. He pushes the Russian propaganda, just like he was told, and with help from the bots. The republican projection of their deeds on dems gets less effective every day. The gaslighting is finally getting attention.
'Harmon told the Tribune that he feels his freedom of speech was taken away: “Saying what I said is definitely not the right thing. I am supposed to be there to help the community, be the best person I can be and represent the college the best way I can…I totally regret it. I got caught up in the heat of the moment. I was there to peacefully protest the things that we believe and people were harassing us, spitting on us and calling us Nazis.”
Funny how they whine and cry and piss and moan when they're caught being their deplorable selves.
That asshole deserved exactly what he got.
The head of the American communist party said himself that the democrat party was the best ally his group had.
Bully for you for listening to them, they are a meaningless blip on my radar and on the impact of the USA. With any luck they will let you sponsor an event with antifa and the Trumpublicans can be entertained while the rest of the world deals with Trump's spineless response to his handler Putin.
And of course you believe everything the head of the American communist party says.
Sure.
No but combined with what I know about democrats it is plausible.
Isn't that the new motto of the GOP? "Whatever the commies order, we mindlessly obey."
At least that is what Trump's motto seems to be, and that means that his party first minions will blindly fall into lock step with Trump and his commie commanders.
And what is known about Republicans it is more than just plausible.
absurd. The right are the defenders of trumputin.
Um, the left isn't supporting Putin, the president of an ENEMY nation.
Wow, That statement just indicates how messed up some thinking is these days.
A total reversal of reality. The democrats are still not trusting anything putin says meanwhile trump and his followers are making every excuse in the book to absolve russia of any wrong doing.
So in reality which party is now closer to "following the russian plan ?
IMO: That would be the trumpublicans
PS: This ridiculous "reversal of reality thinking" would be absolutely hilarious if this wasn't such a serious subject, Our countries future.
LOL
Yeah right
LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL
Actually it represents the absents of intelligence. Non reality thinking used to be know as insanity.
For many of us, it still is.
Hint : Alt facts are still just glorified lies. No matter who says them or why.
Yes, because that's what the Unthinking Faithful TM have been taught to do.
Having no arguments, the right has adopted a method: The True Believer is taught to take whatever liberal argument s/he may hear, turn it backwards, and use it as a rightish argument.
Since there's no actual thought involved in this method, it sometimes produces utter nonsense, as in the case you've spotlighted. The True Believer, acting by rote, posts the argument without realizing how nonsensical it is.
absents of intelligence
Now that is truly funny.
Not really funny I consider it sad considering the schooling most Americans have had.
I learned long ago what constitutes a con-man. Evidently millions of Americans never learned that one simple lesson. Yet !
Now trump is setting up a second meeting with putin for the fall. He is going to have putin come to the Whitehouse.
Unreal...
It's "absence of intelligence" and yes, it's both truly funny and sad.
Like any good lap dog, Trump wants to show the world what a good and innocent Master he has. He thinks that just because his party first minions will cheer Putin and kneel before him, the entire American people will do the same. Trump can't wait to show the world how he is making peace in the world to ensure he gets the Nobel prize.
However, Putin reads Trump like an open book with extra large print, and plays him like an untuned Violin. Just another chance for Trump to throw America under the bus.
I would like to thank everyone else who contributed to the comment threads on the seeded article excepting yourself. Even the derails consisted of mostly of adult conversations excepting in your case. Simply passing through and article's comment vines while tossing off your patented opines about the douchyness of all things liberal is not really contributing. It is just trolling. So, I must ask that you stop participating on my articles and seeds. Thank you in advance for your consideration and compliance with this simple and practical request.
Everyone else? Please do carry on...
Every time Putin glanced at Trump it seemed to be with rather amused disdain. He knows Trump is just a useful idiot.
Or as they say in Russia...Polezni durak...
Also knows as "The Trumpet Puppet On A String".
When he's done with Trump, Pooty will release the pee tapes and poison him with plutonium. Wait a minute, he won't do the second thing. Why would he do anything good for America?
When arch conservatives like George Will come out against a gop President it is time to impeach.
Plainly Trump has no intention at all of honoring his oath to defend and protect our Constitution...
Oath smoath, he never had any intent to live up to any promises he made to anyone at any time. Only an honest man would do that. And the world no knows that Trump is not an honest man.
Ummm....
I'm in a different time zone, so maybe it's just that various news releases get telescoped...
But it seems to me that Trump has
- First thrown US intelligence services under the bus while exonerating Russia,
- Then said "I misspoke, I meant Russia was responsible",
- Then said "Maybe it was Russia, but maybe others",
- Then said, "Russia meddled".
Am I up to date? Has he gone back to "My good ol' buddy Vlad told me he's clean, and I believe him!"?
Am I the only one who's having trouble tracking the flips and the flops?
Haven't checked his tweets yet to see what other things he 'misspoke' about, or what other things he exonerated Putin on, and nastily blamed our Intel agency for doing their job.
I wish I could say it was fun to see what he does next, but, the embarrassment is getting pretty thick. And what is worse, is the many excuses that are made to defend Trump for his treasonous acts by his 'party first' minions.
Love Seat? The King of Vulgaria must be enthroned upon his solid gold double-wide crapper...
It looks like it is for two butts but it is for only one HUGE butt. Like Grover Cleveland's bathtub.