Republican House member once lamented you can’t call women “sluts” anymore

Republican House member once lamented you can’t call women “sluts” anymore
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GettyImages_973227084.01.jpgJason Lewis, the US representative from Minnesota’s Second District, said this in 2012: “Are we beyond those days where a woman can behave as a slut, but you can’t call her a slut?”

Jason Lewis, congressman from Minnesota,.
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CNN went through hours upon hours of Lewis’s former radio show, which he hosted from 2009 to 2014 before he was elected to Congress in 2016. Apparently, Lewis had thoughts he wanted to share with his listeners about “sluts.”

“It used to be that women were held to a little bit of a higher standard. We required modesty from women,” Lewis said. “Now, are we beyond those days where a woman can behave as a slut, but you can’t call her a slut?”

Lewis’s comments have come to light during an election year when the #MeToo movement and the wins of Democratic women are defining the campaign. He will face a Democratic woman in his reelection campaign, Angie Craig, which is expected to be competitive after Lewis narrowly defeated Craig in 2016.

Here are Lewis’s comments, apparently originating in the Sandra Fluke-Rush Limbaugh controversy, in full from CNN:

“Well, the thing is, can we call anybody a slut? This is what begs the question. Take this woman out of it, take Rush out of it for a moment,” Lewis said in a March 2012 episode. “Does a woman now have the right to behave — and I know there’s a double standard between the way men chase women and running and running around — you know, I’m not going to get there, but you know what I’m talking about. But it used to be that women were held to a little bit of a higher standard. We required modesty from women. Now, are we beyond those days where a woman can behave as a slut, but you can’t call her a slut?”


There was more. Lewis brought up Madonna. She’s had a lot of sex and dressed provocatively, he observed and then asked: Would society not have once called her a slut? From CNN:

“Now Limbaugh’s reasoning was, look, if you’re demanding that the taxpayers pay for your contraception, you must use a lot of them and therefore, ergo, you’re very sexually active and in the old days, what we used to call people who were in college or even graduate school who were sexually active, we called them sluts.”

He continued, “Especially if you want somebody to pay for it. Now you know, obviously that’s a stretch. It was meant as an aspect of entertainment radio.”

He continued, “But have we really got to the point where you can’t refer to Madonna as a slut without being sued? I mean, Madonna has had a series of lovers, as have many in Hollywood. Now in the old days, what did we call this? Madonna dresses up in these sorts of prostitute-like outfits on stage, and she goes there and she sings and she shows half of her body. What did we call those people? 30 years ago? 40 years ago? 50 years ago? You can’t do that today, it’s too politically incorrect?”


“This has all been litigated before, and as Congressman Lewis has said time and time again, it was his job to be provocative while on the radio,” Lewis’s campaign manager Becky Alery told CNN.

Lewis narrowly won his first election in Minnesota’s Second District, which covers areas directly southeast of St. Paul. In 2016, he beat Democrat Angie Craig by 2 points. Cook Political Report rates his 2018 reelection campaign as a toss-up. He’ll again face Craig, a health care executive at St. Jude Medical.

The former radio jockey and author has also had some thoughts to share about slavery. He said this on audio commentary for a book he wrote, per the Minneapolis Star-Tribune:

In fact, if you really want to be quite frank about it, how does somebody else owning a slave affect me? It doesn’t. If I don’t think it is right, I won’t own one, and people always say ‘well if you don’t want to marry somebody of the same sex, you don’t have to, but why tell somebody else they can’t. Uh, you know if you don’t want to own a slave, don’t. But don’t tell other people they can’t.


That was reported the February before Lewis was elected to Congress. He won anyway. Now he’s up again in November.

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Bob Nelson
1  Bob Nelson    4 weeks ago

Absolutely, Congressman Lewis! You absolutely have the right to call a woman a slut.

And everyone else has the right to draw their conclusions about you for doing it...

 
 
Kathleen/Butterfie
2  Kathleen/Butterfie    4 weeks ago

Why is it that men can go around sticking it everywhere and never get called a thing? 

 
 
Bob Nelson
2.1  Bob Nelson  replied to  Kathleen/Butterfie @2    4 weeks ago

'Cause men make the rules...

Men like Congressman Lewis.

 
 
Kathleen/Butterfie
2.1.1  Kathleen/Butterfie  replied to  Bob Nelson @2.1    4 weeks ago

He does not make my rules.

 
 
Bob Nelson
2.1.2  Bob Nelson  replied to  Kathleen/Butterfie @2.1.1    4 weeks ago

... or maybe you refuse to follow the rules he makes... Thumbs Up 2

 
 
Trout Giggles
2.2  Trout Giggles  replied to  Kathleen/Butterfie @2    4 weeks ago

I call them pigs. Does that help?

 
 
Kathleen/Butterfie
2.2.1  Kathleen/Butterfie  replied to  Trout Giggles @2.2    4 weeks ago

A little. 

They can do what they want and have sex with as many women that they want, but women are penalized for it.  It goes both ways.

 
 
Tacos!
2.3  Tacos!  replied to  Kathleen/Butterfie @2    4 weeks ago
Why is it that men can go around sticking it everywhere and never get called a thing?

I think the reverse is true. These days, a man can hold open a door and it's a "micro aggression". Where I come from, it's called "good manners."

 
 
Kathleen/Butterfie
2.3.1  Kathleen/Butterfie  replied to  Tacos! @2.3    4 weeks ago

Give me a break...  I figured someone would make a comment like that.  Eye Roll

 
 
Tacos!
2.3.2  Tacos!  replied to  Kathleen/Butterfie @2.3.1    4 weeks ago

How about giving me a break.

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Fireryone
2.3.3  Fireryone  replied to  Tacos! @2.3.2    4 weeks ago
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Who made you police of other peoples posts? 

 
 
Trout Giggles
2.3.4  Trout Giggles  replied to  Tacos! @2.3    4 weeks ago

I will smile at you and say thank-you for holding the door open for me. Too many men in my work area don't think they have to do this anymore because ya know...I'm working in a man's job...so suck it up buttercup!

And I live in a southern state...southern hospitality my ass

 
 
Kathleen/Butterfie
2.3.5  Kathleen/Butterfie  replied to  Trout Giggles @2.3.4    3 weeks ago

It's nice to have a door opened for you.

 
 
Bob Nelson
2.3.6  Bob Nelson  replied to  Kathleen/Butterfie @2.3.5    3 weeks ago

It's good manners.

I was taught to open doors for girls/women when I was a small boy. I was told it was "being courteous". I have never seen it otherwise.

 
 
Kathleen/Butterfie
2.3.7  Kathleen/Butterfie  replied to  Bob Nelson @2.3.6    3 weeks ago

Good for you Bob.  I have had doors opened for me many times. Plus I hold doors open for people as well.

 
 
Silent_Hysteria
2.4  Silent_Hysteria  replied to  Kathleen/Butterfie @2    4 weeks ago

Mainly because it doesn't seem to concern most women.  If women didn't want a guy who whored himself out then they would probably have a name for Guys like that.  

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Trout Giggles
2.4.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  Silent_Hysteria @2.4    4 weeks ago

What the hell does that mean?

 
 
Silent_Hysteria
2.4.2  Silent_Hysteria  replied to  Trout Giggles @2.4.1    4 weeks ago

It means if women cared that a man slept with 100 people they would Come up with a derogatory term for them.  They don't seem to care so there isn't a derogatory term.  

Men generally don't want a significant other that's been ridden more than Seattle slew.  (Great movie). 

It is what it is.  Whatever the reason that is the case.  

 
 
Kathleen/Butterfie
2.4.3  Kathleen/Butterfie  replied to  Silent_Hysteria @2.4.2    4 weeks ago

Well you know, I would not like to be with a guy that thinks women are sex objects and goes from one to the other. Being in a relationship with someone is different. It's a complete turn off to know that you don't treat women with respect. Plus who wants to catch a STD? 

So yeah, I do care and look at things like that.

 
 
Kathleen/Butterfie
2.4.4  Kathleen/Butterfie  replied to  Silent_Hysteria @2.4    3 weeks ago

?

 
 
Split Personality
2.4.5  Split Personality  replied to  Silent_Hysteria @2.4.2    3 weeks ago

Womaniser, philanderer, player, slut, man whore, cheater, sleaze, creep, bastard, dog, pig, asshole, douchebag, jerk, dick, fag, rapist, pervert, loser, bitch, deadbeat, pussy, scumbag, wanker, prick, tool, caveman, gorilla, ponce, pansy, etc, etc.

My favorite is "cad".

cad
kad/
noun
datedhumorous
noun: cad; plural noun: cads
  1. a man who behaves dishonorably, especially toward a woman.
    "her adulterous cad of a husband"
    A cad is someone who can be quite charming, intelligent, capable of engaging in stimulating conversation, ultimately presenting himself as a gentlemen. A cad, however, is not a gentleman because he systematically cons lovely ladies into falling in love with him and then openly cheats on them. He is completely selfish with only feigned regard for women's feelings. Somewhat like a playboy but instead of being open about his philanderings, a cad usually pretends to care about a woman before coitus, thereby confusing the woman when he drops her like a hot potato. He is dishonest with most people around him (often even himself). Cads also frequently have addiction issues.
 
 
Silent_Hysteria
2.4.6  Silent_Hysteria  replied to  Kathleen/Butterfie @2.4.3    3 weeks ago

But do you have a derogatory name for them?  Someone below mentioned CAD.  That's a good one.  

But you do view guys who sleep around in a derogatory manner.  Same as someone wanting to call them sluts.  It's just what you actually call them that seems to differ 

 
 
Silent_Hysteria
2.4.7  Silent_Hysteria  replied to  Split Personality @2.4.5    3 weeks ago

I like CAD.  That is such a satisfying name to call someone.  I think you should make that a thing.  

 
 
Kathleen/Butterfie
2.4.8  Kathleen/Butterfie  replied to  Silent_Hysteria @2.4.6    3 weeks ago

I don't have to call anyone a name, I can just say it goes both ways. 

 
 
Silent_Hysteria
2.4.9  Silent_Hysteria  replied to  Kathleen/Butterfie @2.4.8    3 weeks ago

I think it should go both ways.  It just doesn't currently.  Women should demand more from men in that regard.  

 
 
Trout Giggles
3  Trout Giggles    4 weeks ago
“Does a woman now have the right to behave — and I know there’s a double standard between the way men chase women and running and running around — you know, I’m not going to get there, but you know what I’m talking about. But it used to be that women were held to a little bit of a higher standard. We required modesty from women. Now, are we beyond those days where a woman can behave as a slut, but you can’t call her a slut?”

Look, you jackass....there is a double standard. You admitted that there is one but you don't think it's important to talk about. How many women did you pork before you got married? If you weren't a virgin when you got married, I'm calling you a pig-slut

 
 
Bob Nelson
3.1  Bob Nelson  replied to  Trout Giggles @3    4 weeks ago

Do I detect a hint of disapproval??

 
 
Kathleen/Butterfie
3.2  Kathleen/Butterfie  replied to  Trout Giggles @3    4 weeks ago

And with that ugly face, he is lucky he even got any.

 
 
Fireryone
3.3  Fireryone  replied to  Trout Giggles @3    4 weeks ago

Jackass was mild.  :)

 
 
lady in black
4  lady in black    4 weeks ago

Man whore

 
 
lib50
5  lib50    4 weeks ago

And republicans wonder why they keep getting blamed for their war on women. 

 
 
epistte
5.1  epistte  replied to  lib50 @5    4 weeks ago
And republicans wonder why they keep getting blamed for their war on women.

Maybe Republican males will cite the religious conscience clause for a defense of their misogyny? 

 
 
Trout Giggles
6  Trout Giggles    4 weeks ago

And this is just downright stupid:

“Now Limbaugh’s reasoning was, look, if you’re demanding that the taxpayers pay for your contraception, you must use a lot of them and therefore, ergo, you’re very sexually active

You don't take a goddamned pill every time you want to get lucky. Well, you men do. But we do pay for those.

Asshole

 
 
Bob Nelson
6.1  Bob Nelson  replied to  Trout Giggles @6    4 weeks ago
Asshole.

Excellent summary

 
 
MUVA
6.2  MUVA  replied to  Trout Giggles @6    4 weeks ago

keep your legs closed and you don't need pills not every man needs a pills just the weak low T types.

 
 
epistte
6.2.1  epistte  replied to  MUVA @6.2    4 weeks ago
keep your legs closed and you don't need pills not every man needs a pills just the weak low T types.

Abstinence as a public policy doesn't work to prevent pregnancy any more than Scared Straight/ DARE kept kids from experimenting with drugs. Maybe the GOP should try the tagline "Just Don't Get Sick" as an alternative to the ACA, Medicaid and Medicare. 

 
 
Tacos!
6.2.2  Tacos!  replied to  MUVA @6.2    4 weeks ago
the weak low T types

Interesting perspective.

All men generate less testosterone as they grow older, and ED can occur for a number of reasons, some related and some not to testosterone production. I don't claim to be an expert, but I've learned enough to know that there's nothing "weak" about it.

Unfortunately, it's common practice now to demean men, especially sexually. Do it with women and see how it goes. For some reason, this a world that is alleged to run on "male privilege."

 
 
MUVA
6.2.3  MUVA  replied to  Tacos! @6.2.2    4 weeks ago

It was a joke I listen to the radio all day at work and hear the low T commercials it i was just funnin.

 
 
Trout Giggles
6.2.4  Trout Giggles  replied to  Tacos! @6.2.2    4 weeks ago
Unfortunately, it's common practice now to demean men, especially sexually. D

It's called payback. Now you men have to suck it up or you can whine about it

 
 
Sean Treacy
7  Sean Treacy    4 weeks ago

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epistte
7.1  epistte  replied to  Sean Treacy @7    4 weeks ago

removed for context

 
 
Sean Treacy
7.1.2  Sean Treacy  replied to  epistte @7.1    4 weeks ago

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Tacos!
7.1.3  Tacos!  replied to  Sean Treacy @7.1.2    4 weeks ago

removed for context

 
 
MUVA
8  MUVA    4 weeks ago

I still call sluts well sluts if the shoe fits.

 
 
epistte
8.1  epistte  replied to  MUVA @8    4 weeks ago

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LynneA
9  LynneA    4 weeks ago

His need to use 'slut' to a describe woman, then lamenting he can't use that derogatory term, tells me all I need to know about his character.

 
 
Kavika
9.1  Kavika   replied to  LynneA @9    4 weeks ago

Exactly LynneA...

If I was to describe him, I would say LOW T....

 
 
LynneA
9.1.1  LynneA  replied to  Kavika @9.1    4 weeks ago

Winking 2

 
 
Tacos!
10  Tacos!    4 weeks ago
“Now, are we beyond those days where a woman can behave as a slut, but you can’t call her a slut?”

Yes, unless you mean to express approval of her slutty behavior.

 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
10.1  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  Tacos! @10    4 weeks ago
Yes, unless you mean to express approval of her slutty behavior.

Aren't you the guy that thinks just holding a door makes him a gentleman?  You really like that low bar, doncha. 

 
 
Tacos!
10.1.1  Tacos!  replied to  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו @10.1    4 weeks ago
Aren't you the guy that thinks just holding a door makes him a gentleman?

Well, let's see . . . IS that something I said? Or did I simply say the act was one of good manners? If you're going to try to change my words, I am going to call you on it.

 
 
Trout Giggles
10.2  Trout Giggles  replied to  Tacos! @10    4 weeks ago
Yes, unless you mean to express approval of her slutty behavior.

Why should I, you, or anybody else care what she does? It doesn't affect your drive to work, your day at work, or even your paycheck.

 
 
Tacos!
10.2.1  Tacos!  replied to  Trout Giggles @10.2    3 weeks ago
Why should I, you, or anybody else care what she does?

She who? Who are you talking about? And where did I say I cared what someone does? Sorry, but I don't see how your question has any connection to what I wrote.

 
 
Trout Giggles
10.2.2  Trout Giggles  replied to  Tacos! @10.2.1    3 weeks ago

Whatever woman you are calling a slut is the "she" in question. And "she" does not require your approval for anything

 
 
bugsy
11  bugsy    4 weeks ago

Let e see if I have this right...

An unknown Representative says in public what his feelings are on what he can and cant's say out loud......liberals say BAD

Nationwide known actors, talk show hosts and public figures come out on their soap box and declare conservative women cunts...over and over again....and liberals cry FREE SPEECH and THAT speech is good.

Freaking pathetic.

 
 
Bob Nelson
11.1  Bob Nelson  replied to  bugsy @11    4 weeks ago
Let e see if I have this right...

You don't.

 
 
bugsy
11.1.1  bugsy  replied to  Bob Nelson @11.1    4 weeks ago

I notice you have devolved into one and two word responses that in no way addresses the post. Were you not given the latest talking points and you are lost with the lack of knowing how to respond? deleted

 
 
lib50
11.2  lib50  replied to  bugsy @11    4 weeks ago
Freaking pathetic.

Keep up that war on women.  We especially love your mansplaining, keep talking.  As a woman who values her rights, anybody that works against that is a problem.  And when your party's leader is the bully asshole who 'tells it like it is' and you like it, you don't get to decide what we say in response to his enablers.  Those women betray all of us.

 
 
bugsy
11.2.1  bugsy  replied to  lib50 @11.2    4 weeks ago

That post made zero sense. Sorry if you think pointing out liberal hypocrisy is mansplaining.

I do, however, understand that you think it is OK for nationally known liberals that have a national soap box to call women cunts and other derogatory names, over and over again, but want to throw a fit when an unknown Representative makes one statement one time.

Liberalism truly has devolved. Sad...

 
 
MUVA
12  MUVA    4 weeks ago

If you don't act like a slut you will not be called a slut and if you are a man slut you are my hero.

 
 
lib50
12.1  lib50  replied to  MUVA @12    4 weeks ago

I'm glad you republicans don't think women are watching and listening to you, just keep yapping.

 
 
Kathleen/Butterfie
12.2  Kathleen/Butterfie  replied to  MUVA @12    4 weeks ago

Really?

Wow....

 
 
Fireryone
12.3  Fireryone  replied to  MUVA @12    4 weeks ago

Lovely double standard you've got there.

 
 
Trout Giggles
12.3.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  Fireryone @12.3    4 weeks ago

Giggle

 
 
Bob Nelson
12.3.2  Bob Nelson  replied to  Fireryone @12.3    3 weeks ago
Lovely double standard you've got there.

Well of course!

There's one standard for men, and another standard for women.

Of course.

What do you expect?

 
 
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