The Elites’ War on the Deplorables

The Elites’ War on the Deplorables
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Recently Politico reporter Marc Caputo was angered at rude hecklers at a Trump rally who booed beleaguered CNN correspondent Jim Acosta.

So Caputo tweeted of them, “If you put everyone’s mouths together in this video, you’d get a full set of teeth.”

Politico had not employed such a crass journalist since before it fired Julia Ioffe for tweeting, “Either Trump is f—ing his daughter or he’s shirking nepotism laws. Which is worse?” (Ioffe was then snatched up by the Atlantic, which has an unpredictable policy either of excusing or not excusing the controversial expressions of its newly hired journalists.)

I suppose Caputo meant that Trump voters intrinsically lacked either the money to fix their teeth or the knowledge of the hygiene required to take care of them or the aesthetic sensitivity of how awful their mouths looked. Or Caputo was simply rehashing the stereotypes that he had seen on reality TV shows like “Duck Dynasty” and “The Deadliest Catch.”

Or none of the above: the journalist grandee was just stupid.

That last alternative seems most likely since Caputo then escalated and called them collectively “garbage people.” Or rather, in the manner of a cowardly age of social media, he tweeted that slur when safely at a distance. 

What did “garbage people” mean? That by birth or training such toothless, smelly people were subhuman, like refuse? And if Caputo had substituted any other racial minority for his slurs, would he still have his job according to the cannons of progressive censure and Internet lynching? Could he have said something similarly degrading about the attendees of after an open borders or Black Lives Matter rally and still have his job?

Sarah Jeong’s Struggle
Last week, the New York Times named tech writer Sarah Jeong to its editorial board with apparent knowledge of her long history of racist tweets, as well as verbal attacks on police and males in general. Perhaps such gutter venom was proof of militant orthodoxy to be appreciated rather than medieval racism to be shunned. Her mostly empty résumé seems compensated by her identity and her politics—as the Times more or less confessed in its sad defense of her racist outbursts.

Jeong claimed that white people smelled like wet dogs. She had bragged that she hated them, and hoped that soon they would become childless and disappear. Her final solution of demographic extinction was, she said (in historically dense fashion), “my plan all along.”

One wonders whether she will canonize her collected tweets into something like “My Struggle,” replete with less abstract territorial theories how to reify her “plan” or add pseudo-scientific details explaining why and how whites, as she alleges, smell or have had no cultural or scientific achievements.

Lots of her other tweets about toxic white people and culturally repugnant white heterosexual males suggest that Jeong’s twitter corpus is not, as alleged, one of flippant jest, counterpunches to trolls, or accidental streaming.

Rather it is consistent with the profile of an embittered but otherwise mostly undistinguished social justice warrior who had fueled her bias at Harvard Law School and honed its expression in the no-consequences world of left-wing blogs.

Of course, once caught, Jeong predictably retreated to victim status: she was simply replying to hateful trolls. (One wonders whether her venom against police was likewise supposedly prompted by police attacks on her?)

The Times, which claims it has a practice of calling out hate speech, and blackballing any with Jeong-like skeletons, suddenly tsk-tsked its hiring by claiming that she was merely overzealous in her eliminationist response to Internet trolls. More likely, the Times liked her verve and smiled at the click-bait attention she earned. It’s a free country, after all, and the Times is perfectly free to hire all the progressive racists it wishes to enhance its brand.

Routine Demonization
In the text message trove of disgraced FBI operatives Lisa Page and Peter Strzok there was the same sort of barnyard contempt. Georgetown graduate Strzok claimed to Page that a local Virginia Walmart “smelled” of Trump voters—a progressive stereotype of white Neanderthals that is increasingly freely expressed.

In another government text, an unidentified FBI agent, assigned to the Hillary Clinton email investigation, had written of the Trump voters that they were “lazy POS that think we will magically grant them jobs for doing nothing.”

Again, demonizing the Trump voter as beyond cultural redemption is nothing new. During the 2016 campaign, Hillary Clinton infamously dismissed Trump supporters as “deplorables” who were“irredeemable” and were “not America.”

After her defeat, Clinton proved her early smears were no accident. Speaking in India, she again slurred Trump supporters as being racist, sexist, and xenophobic for their inability to appreciate her progressive godhead. All this from the 2008 candidate who earned the sobriquet of “Annie Oakley” from Barack Obama for quaffing boilermakers, shooting, and bowling while pandering to what Clinton had once endearingly called “hard-working Americans, white Americans.”

In some sense, the rebranded Clinton simply continued where Barack Obama had left off in his denunciations of the “bitter clingers” of Pennsylvania, who were prone to simplistic trust in their guns and religion and, out of insecurity, scapegoated others.

When Obama periodically wrote off Americans as “lazy” and ignorant of the world beyond them (this, from another Harvard law graduate who thought Hawaii was in Asia and Austrians spoke “Austrian”), he was, to use a progressive metaphor, dog whistling the themes of his clingers speech.

Easy Targets, No Consequences
Elites are confident that there is nothing either ethically wrong or career-endangering in smearing middle-class Trump supporters with such crude stereotypes.

When pundits on television go after Rep. Devin Nunes (R-Calif.), they inevitably resort to attacking his Tulare roots, and his dairy-farm upbringing (“A former dairy farmer”; “way over his head”; “nothing in his résumé that would have qualified him for the post,” etc.) to claim that he is mismatched by Harvard-trained Adam Schiff. Again, how strange that egalitarians always revert to base snobbery and class stereotypes in lieu of an argument or an idea.

Arkansas native Sarah Huckabee Sanders, the White House press secretary, is a frequent target of such venomous cultural disparagement.

She has become our new Sarah Palin, whom the elite used to ridicule routinely, Remember David Letterman’s stupid joke about her daughter (likely a reference to then-14-year old Willow) being raped by baseball star Alex Gonzales in a dugout—the subtext being that white trash like the Palins love to have underage gratuitous sex wherever they can find it. (Projection alert: Letterman was later blackmailed into admitting to turning his studio office into a sort of sex den where he routinely before and after his show seduced female staffers).

At the 2018 White House Correspondents’ Dinner, comedian Michelle Wolf trashed Sanders’ appearance and her pedigree. Actor Peter Fonda later called her a misogynistic obscenity, and said she should be deported to Arkansas.

New York Times columnist Frank Bruni once mocked her accent. Listening to her, he said, was akin “to hearing the air seep out a flat tire.” And Los Angeles Timeswriter David Horsey mocked Sanders as a “slightly chunky soccer mom” who was out of place with “fake eyelashes” and “formal dresses.”

Equally bizarre is another trope that Trump voters should be deported and illegal aliens welcomed in their place. After the 2016 election, conservative NeverTrump pundits variously expressed their contempt for Trump supporters as a sort of class of expendables, or at least as inferior to immigrants.

David Brooks, for example, claimed that white working communities were often xenophobic given their own realization of inferiority. “You’d react negatively, too, if confronted with people who are better versions of what you wish you were yourself,” he wrote.

If I had noted the same contempt for the Norteños gang member living across the road who this month shot at another neighbor’s house, broke the windows of my nephew’s home, was arrested, released, and rearrested in one night, and periodically used drugs in my orchard—that he acts so antisocially because he and associates are “confronted with better versions of what he wished he was himself”—I would face a career-ending charge of racism from the electronic mob.

Sometimes state rather than national deportation is dreamed of as a less drastic cure for the deplorables. Minnesota Governor Mark Dayton saidthat his state’s white population did not have enough “B+” citizens and therefore needed to find them from Somalia. “Our economy cannot expand based on white, B+, Minnesota-born citizens. We don’t have enough.” One wonders why the bigot Dayton considered himself and unknown Somali immigrants en masse to be B+ and above, but most of his fellow Minnesotans otherwise sub-B+. What were the racial criteria by which he judged whole classes of people?

The Shield of Progressive Victimhood
These examples of contempt from politicians and media for what might be called the Trump voter, the white working classes, or red-state America, could be repeated ad nauseam. The stereotypes, however, raise a number of ironies and paradoxes.

Liberal orthodoxy has always professed to oppose stereotyping people by their outward appearance.

Or has it? I might argue that progressivism used to remind us that our character, not our color mattered. But then I cannot, because it never did—given that progressivism at its birth emerged as a bastard mix of Darwinism-fueled eugenics and Germanic inspired pseudo-science.

Academic dogma postulates that white people cannot be the victims of racism, and such banal white demonization has now seeped into the larger liberal commentariat. With that bias comes the twin notion that one can smear the white working classes with impunity. Caputo, however, was not brave or stupid enough to visit a Trump rally and to suggest to the crowd around him to get to a Clear Smile clinic.

If you are a non-white purveyor of such prejudice, venom like Jeong’s is contextualized through the lens of compensatory historical grievances. Someone’s grandfather mistreated your grandmother, so you can invert and then replay the roles with impunity. Or less charitably, life’s disappointments are always due to past cosmic injustice, not one’s own perceived tragic shortcomings or bad luck or just cruel fate.

If you are an elite white liberal, you are a twofer: virtue signaling your identity politics bona fides, while psychologically squaring the circle of your own privilege. Those who ridicule less fortunate white others for their supposed racial privilege—themselves often the products of old boy networks, elite upbringings, inherited perks, prep schools and parental leveraging—end up as the privileged smearing the non-privileged for their privilege.

Jeong is a Harvard Law graduate. Strzok has a master’s degree from Georgetown. The ridicule of the white working class by NeverTrump conservative pundits is read on the pages of the nation’s premier newspapers or voiced in hallowed symposia.

Is such ignorance of an entire class because of, or in spite of such, elite training?

Does the university-bred cursushonorarium have room for real-world experience beyond the campus and laptop?

Has Jeong ever worked welding alongside the grandchildren of Dust Bowl diaspora to adjudicate their actual skin-colored advantage? Did her class and gender studies work at Harvard Law constitute a tougher curriculum than a 12-hour shift at Denny’s? Is the soybean jack-of-all-trades farmer really denser than the Yale English major?

A final irony. In answer to the now hackneyed question, who or what created Trump? All these purveyors of class and racial prejudice need only look in the mirror.

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Heartland American
1  Heartland American    one week ago

“Again, demonizing the Trump voter as beyond cultural redemption is nothing new. During the 2016 campaign, Hillary Clinton infamously dismissed Trump supporters as “deplorables” who were“irredeemable” and were “not America.”

After her defeat, Clinton proved her early smears were no accident. Speaking in India, she again slurred Trump supporters as being racist, sexist, and xenophobic for their inability to appreciate her progressive godhead. All this from the 2008 candidate who earned the sobriquet of “Annie Oakley” from Barack Obama for quaffing boilermakers, shooting, and bowling while pandering to what Clinton had once endearingly called “hard-working Americans, white Americans.”

In some sense, the rebranded Clinton simply continued where Barack Obama had left off in his denunciations of the “bitter clingers” of Pennsylvania, who were prone to simplistic trust in their guns and religion and, out of insecurity, scapegoated others.

When Obama periodically wrote off Americans as “lazy” and ignorant of the world beyond them (this, from another Harvard law graduate who thought Hawaii was in Asia and Austrians spoke “Austrian”), he was, to use a progressive metaphor, dog whistling the themes of his clingers speech.

Easy Targets, No Consequences
Elites are confident that there is nothing either ethically wrong or career-endangering in smearing middle-class Trump supporters with such crude stereotypes.

When pundits on television go after Rep. Devin Nunes (R-Calif.), they inevitably resort to attacking his Tulare roots, and his dairy-farm upbringing (“A former dairy farmer”; “way over his head”; “nothing in his résumé that would have qualified him for the post,” etc.) to claim that he is mismatched by Harvard-trained Adam Schiff. Again, how strange that egalitarians always revert to base snobbery and class stereotypes in lieu of an argument or an idea.

Arkansas native Sarah Huckabee Sanders, the White House press secretary, is a frequent target of such venomous cultural disparagement.

She has become our new Sarah Palin, whom the elite used to ridicule routinely”

 
 
epistte
1.1  epistte  replied to  Heartland American @1    one week ago
Arkansas native Sarah Huckabee Sanders, the White House press secretary, is a frequent target of such venomous cultural disparagement. She has become our new Sarah Palin, whom the elite used to ridicule routinely”

Why should people who knowingly lie be free from criticism?

https://www.refinery29.com/2018/06/201952/sarah-huckabee-sanders-worst-lies-trump-administration https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2009/dec/18/politifact-lie-year-death-panels/
 
 
devangelical
1.2  devangelical  replied to  Heartland American @1    one week ago
Sarah Huckabee Sanders, the White House press secretary, has become our new Sarah Palin.

Maybe the bulk size version. Just another trump supporting feckless cunt obliterating the boundaries of bearing false witness.

 
 
KDMichigan
1.2.1  KDMichigan  replied to  devangelical @1.2    one week ago
Just another trump supporting feckless cunt obliterating the boundaries of bearing false witness.

I like her. She does a good job standing up to the snowflakes after there chosen cunt Hillaryious Hillary lost. Unfortunately after that Pussy Obama  and his cunt wife left the White house the crybabies didn't get there chosen one elected. They are still trying to figure out that it isn't a popularity contest. 

 
 
lib50
1.2.2  lib50  replied to  KDMichigan @1.2.1    one week ago
I like her. She does a good job standing up to the snowflakes

She is a liar who pisses and moans about everything, she and her boss are the damn snowflakes, they whine about anything and everything, lying, insulting and inciting as they go.  Both are more protective of Putin (and Russia) than the USA.   What do you call that again?

 
 
Heartland American
1.2.3  Heartland American  replied to  KDMichigan @1.2.1    one week ago

I love the way she does her job.  She ticks off the msm fake news personalities and doesn’t stand down no matter how offended the claim to be.  She owns the guy from CNN.  

 
 
Dismayed Patriot
1.2.4  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  KDMichigan @1.2.1    one week ago
after there chosen cunt

Where chosen cunt?

The reality is that there is reason to ridicule deplorable's. Deplorable's are welcome to their own opinions, but not their own facts. The one in the picture above looks like he might be Amish. He likely thinks that horse travel is the best way to travel, and that's fine, for him. But the reality is it's slow and messy and not something most Americans want to use for their mode of transport. He also likely thinks Trump is the best kind of President, and that's fine, for him. The reality is Trump is a horrible joke of a President and not someone most Americans voted for or support. Most deplorable's are about as educated as the Amish and have archaic opinions that aren't really valid or completely insane in the 21st century. Even by accepting the label "deplorable" as many of them embraced is self identifying them as xenophobes, homophobes, islamophobes, sexists, and racists. Why anyone would gladly accept that label is beyond me, but then so is driving a horse and buggy into town.

"An Amish education consists of eight years in a one room schoolhouse being taught by a teacher with an eighth grade education. On the face of it, this seems like a woefully inadequate and unfair way to prepare Amish children for an adult life as productive members of society. But to properly judge this system you must take into account the society for which they are being prepared. This society believes that the pathway to heaven is paved with modesty."

http://www.exploring-amish-country.com/amish-education.html

If you're "preparing" yourself and your children for a modest pathway to heaven which your peers and ancestors claim is free of minorities, gays, liberals and Muslims, then raising deplorable's makes some sense. They'll never need the exposure to other cultures, a solid civics education, and understanding of biology, chemistry and mathematics. But if you want a highly functioning child with nearly limitless opportunities before them then they need all of that and then some.

 
 
Skrekk
1.2.5  Skrekk  replied to  KDMichigan @1.2.1    one week ago
cunt Hillaryious Hillary lost. Unfortunately after that Pussy Obama  and his cunt wife

Charming.

 
 
nightwalker
1.2.6  nightwalker  replied to  KDMichigan @1.2.1    one week ago

NOT A POPULARITY CONTEST? A reality show host is the president. Big star. Much better choice than any mere politician with any knowledge of...anything at all. Much better to buck the script so you can point at someone with a special finger gesture and yell "You're fired!!!!" which is a qualification I've always admired in a president.

 
 
Tessylo
1.2.7  Tessylo  replied to  Skrekk @1.2.5    one week ago

Typical Klassy comment from a Donald Rump supporter.  

 
 
TTGA
1.2.8  TTGA  replied to  Skrekk @1.2.5    one week ago

From Devangelical:

Just another trump supporting feckless cunt obliterating the boundaries of bearing false witness.

Don't start that game unless you're ready to have it thrown back in your teeth.  What goes around WILL come back around.

 
 
Skrekk
1.3  Skrekk  replied to  Heartland American @1    one week ago

deleted

 
 
cjcold
1.3.1  cjcold  replied to  Skrekk @1.3    one week ago

This liberal has a few college degrees and grew up in a wealthy family. I slip on my high waders every day and check on the cows and the crops. Strap a .45 revolver loaded with birdshot to my hip in case of aggressive snakes. And yes, I am exceptional.

 
 
Heartland American
2  Heartland American    one week ago

Victor Davis Hansen is 100% correct in his analysis of the on going political climate in America.  The progressives are so enraged by their defeat and their princess not becoming president that they are attacking other Americans and America itself for rejecting their royal elites.  

 
 
Skrekk
2.1  Skrekk  replied to  Heartland American @2    one week ago

When Trump's elementary school teachers told him he was "special" he thought it meant he was one of the elites.

Even his college professor said  “Donald Trump was the dumbest goddamn student I ever had.”

 
 
cjcold
2.2  cjcold  replied to  Heartland American @2    one week ago

After 30 years of anti-Hillary propaganda this is not surprising. Elizabeth Warren will be our next President.

 
 
Heartland American
2.2.1  Heartland American  replied to  cjcold @2.2    one week ago

The hot place will freeze over before Pocahontas ever becomes president.  

 
 
Skrekk
2.2.2  Skrekk  replied to  Heartland American @2.2.1    one week ago
The hot place will freeze over before Pocahontas ever becomes president.

Sounds like you have some bigotry against native Americans and against women.

I guess that's why you're a Trump supporter.

 
 
cjcold
2.2.3  cjcold  replied to  Heartland American @2.2.1    one week ago

Warren would make a great president. But I would expect all far right wingers to hate her for her liberal leanings.

 
 
arkpdx
2.2.4  arkpdx  replied to  cjcold @2.2.3    one week ago

Removed.

 
 
JumpDrive
2.3  JumpDrive  replied to  Heartland American @2    one week ago
their princess not becoming president

I can’t speak for all progressives, but none that I know think about Hillary at all — we really don’t give a shit about her. You guys are the ones always bringing her up.

None of us were happy when Reagan, Bush I, or Bush II were elected, but we knew they were decent people with whose policies we disagreed. Trump is different, he is amoral, misogynistic, bigoted, racist, thin-skinned, narcissistic, infantile, monumentally stupid, spiteful, and vindictive. He’s also a pathological liar and a sociopath who has been involved in thousands of law suits because he routinely rips off and even destroys the businesses of those who have done work for him. Reagan and the Bushes shared none of those attributes. We oppose Trump because of what he is and does.

 
 
TTGA
2.3.1  TTGA  replied to  JumpDrive @2.3    one week ago
I can’t speak for all progressives, but none that I know think about Hillary at all — we really don’t give a shit about her. You guys are the ones always bringing her up.

And you're the ones who gave her the nomination.  If the progressives (Socialists) had thought about her at all (as you claim they didn't), they might actually have won.  You bought her, now you own her and are considered responsible for her.

 
 
Dismayed Patriot
2.3.2  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  TTGA @2.3.1    one week ago
And you're the ones who gave her the nomination.

While I voted for Bernie in the primary, yes Democrats gave her the nomination. Then she lost and we moved on. Few progressives are sad that she didn't win because they loved her so much, they're only sad she didn't win because of the horrific alternative we ended up with.

"You bought her, now you own her and are considered responsible for her"

Again, I didn't give a dime to the Hillary campaign and I would have been happier with just about any other actual progressive candidate. But even if I had donated to her campaign, I wouldn't "own her", she tried and lost and is now just a retired grandmother that takes up virtually zero space in my brain, she only comes up when conservatives try to justify electing the worst President in history. Instead of saying "Our guy is amazing as can be seen by all his hard work and actual bills passed that are helping every day Americans" all they have is "At least he's not Killary!".

 
 
arkpdx
2.3.3  arkpdx  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @2.3.2    one week ago
Then she lost and we moved on.

In what alternate universe did that happen or have you forgotten the riots and demonstrations and petitions thatoccured after the elections. 

she tried and lost and is now just a retired grandmother

You might try to convince her of that .

 
 
Heartland American
2.3.4  Heartland American  replied to  arkpdx @2.3.3    6 days ago

I think she really does want to run again.  

 
 
DRHunk
2.3.5  DRHunk  replied to  arkpdx @2.3.3    6 days ago

that was so 2 years ago, when is the right going to move on?

 
 
devangelical
3  devangelical    one week ago
Trump supporters as being racist, sexist, and xenophobic

go figure.

 
 
Skrekk
3.1  Skrekk  replied to  devangelical @3    one week ago

 
 
MrFrost
4  MrFrost    one week ago

Liberal elites? But fox news told me that liberals don't work, live in their mothers basement and collect welfare????? NOW they are elites? 

I wish they would pick a talking point and stick with it, constantly changing the talking points to fit the agenda of the day is just plain stupid.

 
 
Kavika
4.1  Kavika   replied to  MrFrost @4    one week ago
constantly changing the talking points to fit the agenda of the day is just plain stupid.

And you expect something different from stuck on stupid group.laughing dude

 
 
MrFrost
4.1.1  MrFrost  replied to  Kavika @4.1    one week ago

A guy can dream can't he? LOLpraying dude

 
 
Jasper2529
4.2  Jasper2529  replied to  MrFrost @4    one week ago
But fox news told me that liberals don't work, live in their mothers basement and collect welfare?????

Kindly prove that Fox News Channel has said everything you claim they have said.

 
 
MrFrost
4.2.1  MrFrost  replied to  Jasper2529 @4.2    one week ago

That's the narrative they push. 

 
 
Jasper2529
4.2.2  Jasper2529  replied to  MrFrost @4.2.1    one week ago
That's the narrative they push. 

In comment 4.2 I asked you to PROVE it.  Cite evidence using FNC links to what you claim.

 
 
Heartland American
4.2.3  Heartland American  replied to  Jasper2529 @4.2.2    one week ago

Still waiting.....

 
 
MrFrost
4.2.4  MrFrost  replied to  Jasper2529 @4.2.2    one week ago

Sure, prove that Hillary colluded with Russia to defeat trump.... No? Didn't think so. 

 
 
MrFrost
4.2.5  MrFrost  replied to  Jasper2529 @4.2.2    one week ago

Yea, whatever... LOL I am sure that no conservative has ever said liberals are welfare queens.. LOL Sure.. LOL

 
 
badfish hαηd ⊕ƒ †hε Ωuεεη
4.2.6  badfish hαηd ⊕ƒ †hε Ωuεεη  replied to  MrFrost @4.2.5    one week ago

I can't find any welfare queens. There are 2.5 million  less on welfare.

 
 
Jasper2529
4.2.7  Jasper2529  replied to  Heartland American @4.2.3    one week ago

And still waiting. Wink

 
 
Spikegary
4.2.8  Spikegary  replied to  MrFrost @4.2.4    one week ago

Well, if she did, she certainly F*cked that up.

 
 
JohnRussell
5  JohnRussell    one week ago

Gee, this is right on time -

View image on Twitter

In case it's too hard to read, the t-shirt says   " I'd Rather Be A Russian Than A Democrat".

These two yahoos were seen yukking it up at a Trump rally last week.  I don't have any problem saying that the Trump deplorables are a plague on this country and need to be defeated and sent to the ash heap of history as soon as possible. 

They are a minority of the population, many of them are ignoramuses, and racists, and the rest of us are under no requirement to be nice to them. 

I do understand that not all Trump supporters are the self described deplorables, and these comments may not apply to them. 

I'm talking basically about the idiots who chant "lock her up" at the rallies and believe that the "real" truth will prove that the "real" traitors are Obama and Loretta Lynch and James Comey. 

 
 
Skrekk
5.1  Skrekk  replied to  JohnRussell @5    one week ago
I do understand that not all Trump supporters are the self described deplorables

Perhaps, but they all did choose to vote for a bigoted sociopath and a traitor.

The "red" color is apropos too.

 
 
r.t..b...
5.2  r.t..b...  replied to  JohnRussell @5    one week ago
These two yahoos

Conjoined at the hypocrisy...

 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
5.3  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  JohnRussell @5    one week ago

Happy Traitors on Parade.  What an adorable pair of douchebags!

 
 
Jack_TX
5.4  Jack_TX  replied to  JohnRussell @5    one week ago
I don't have any problem saying that the Trump deplorables are a plague on this country and need to be defeated and sent to the ash heap of history as soon as possible.  They are a minority of the population, many of them are ignoramuses, and racists, and the rest of us are under no requirement to be nice to them. 

Most people say the same thing about leftist Millennials.  

 
 
bbl-1
5.4.1  bbl-1  replied to  Jack_TX @5.4    one week ago

Really?  Who says that about 'leftist millennials?'

 
 
Heartland American
5.4.2  Heartland American  replied to  Jack_TX @5.4    one week ago

deleted

 
 
cjcold
5.5  cjcold  replied to  JohnRussell @5    one week ago

So these old, fat out of shape low IQ fools are the future of the country? deleted

 
 
JohnRussell
5.6  JohnRussell  replied to  JohnRussell @5    one week ago

The guy in the left middle pic looks like he had to get down in the dirt and wrestle that MAGA hat off someone. 

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Skrekk
5.6.1  Skrekk  replied to  JohnRussell @5.6    one week ago

That pic has a lot of synonymous R-words......Republican, Russian, Red, Rage, Reactionary, Retard, going Rouge.    Am I missing any?

 
 
cjcold
5.6.2  cjcold  replied to  Skrekk @5.6.1    one week ago

What a great time to be a photographer.

 
 
Tessylo
5.6.3  Tessylo  replied to  JohnRussell @5.6    one week ago

They look like fine people.    

 
 
Spikegary
5.6.4  Spikegary  replied to  JohnRussell @5.6    one week ago

Should we put up a collage of the snowflake rage pictures too?  It would have an equal value to what is posted above

 
 
Tessylo
5.6.5  Tessylo  replied to  Spikegary @5.6.4    one week ago
'Should we put up a collage of the snowflake rage pictures too?  It would have an equal value to what is posted above'

Nope.  No, it wouldn't.  

What are all those Rump supporters so angry about?  Looks like they're all about to have a stroke, they're going apopleptic.  

 
 
Texan1211
5.6.6  Texan1211  replied to  Spikegary @5.6.4    one week ago

I don't think much compares to the whiney-ass babies crying their little hearts out on election night.

Unless it is the pictures of the same idiots holding their little scream at the sky day.

 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
5.6.7  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  JohnRussell @5.6    one week ago

Those are your people, H.A.  You must be proud. 

 
 
JohnRussell
5.6.8  JohnRussell  replied to  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו @5.6.7    one week ago

I think Trump should keep having these rallies every week. I think they are going to cost him and the Republicans votes among the sane folk. 

 
 
Sparty On
5.6.9  Sparty On  replied to  Texan1211 @5.6.6    one week ago

I don't know.  

The mugshots of the Berkeley antifa protestors who got arrested are pretty funny as well.  

Such fine examples our our liberal brethren here in the US .....

 
 
MUVA
6  MUVA    one week ago

By the comments on this seed I see some are starting to believe their own hype come back to reality you are not successful. I can tell because all the really successful people I know and do work for would never go on a site like this. ( deleted )

Newsvine Policy

Members shall not engage in badmouthing Newsvine or ex-Newsvine members in any manner. 

( and badmouthing NT is meta )
 
 
JohnRussell
6.1  JohnRussell  replied to  MUVA @6    one week ago

Do "successful" people go on twitter and rant and rave against their "enemies" every day? 

What does being "successful" have to do with anything on this seed? 

 
 
MUVA
6.1.1  MUVA  replied to  JohnRussell @6.1    one week ago

Your right it has nothing to do with this that is my point.

 
 
cjcold
6.1.2  cjcold  replied to  MUVA @6.1.1    one week ago

Removed

 
 
arkpdx
6.1.3  arkpdx  replied to  cjcold @6.1.2    one week ago

MUVA must be scoring undisputable points.  ( deleted )

 
 
Dulay
6.1.4  Dulay  replied to  arkpdx @6.1.3    one week ago
MUVA must be scoring undisputable points.

Nope, not even one. 

 
 
Dulay
6.1.5  Dulay  replied to  MUVA @6.1.1    one week ago
Your right it has nothing to do with this that is my point.

Other than dissing this site and it's members, you failed to make a 'point'. 

 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
6.1.6  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  Dulay @6.1.4    one week ago
Nope, not even one. 

The delusions---they are powerful.

 
 
Heartland American
6.1.7  Heartland American  replied to  arkpdx @6.1.3    6 days ago

Very strong and positive points indeed.  

 
 
lennylynx
6.2  lennylynx  replied to  MUVA @6    one week ago

If you do decide to continue here, please seek treatment for your commaphobia.  Thank-you.

 
 
MUVA
6.2.1  MUVA  replied to  lennylynx @6.2    one week ago

 Coming from the one line wonder I will take that as a compliment so thanks.

 
 
epistte
6.2.2  epistte  replied to  lennylynx @6.2    one week ago
If you do decide to continue here, please seek treatment for your commaphobia.  Thank-you.

I have sent his name to Commas Annonymous.

 
 
devangelical
6.2.3  devangelical  replied to  epistte @6.2.2    one week ago

Removed

 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
6.2.4  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  MUVA @6.2.1    one week ago
 Coming from the one line wonder I will take that as a compliment so thanks.

"Brevity is the soul of wit." Punctuation doesn't hurt, either. 

 
 
Sparty On
6.2.5  Sparty On  replied to  lennylynx @6.2    one week ago
6.2.1 MUVA replied to  lennylynx @6.2   20 hours ago

 Coming from the one line wonder I will take that as a compliment so thanks.

Yeah really,  

Henny Youngman called ..... he wants his shtick back ....

 
 
Heartland American
6.3  Heartland American  replied to  MUVA @6    one week ago

I won’t be leaving.  The comparison to the other site is valid.  

 
 
devangelical
6.3.1  devangelical  replied to  Heartland American @6.3    one week ago

Removed

 
 
Skrekk
6.3.2  Skrekk  replied to  devangelical @6.3.1    one week ago

Discuss the seeded Content

 
 
Dulay
6.3.4  Dulay  replied to  Heartland American @6.3    one week ago
The comparison to the other site is valid.

Are you badmouthing NV AND NT? 

 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
6.3.5  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  Heartland American @6.3    one week ago
I won’t be leaving.  

Glory be.  You don't know how sad that would make us.

 
 
Sparty On
6.3.6  Sparty On  replied to  Dulay @6.3.4    one week ago
Are you badmouthing NV

Deleted 

Newsvine Policy

Members shall not engage in badmouthing Newsvine or ex-Newsvine members in any manner. 

 

 
 
Sparty On
6.3.7  Sparty On  replied to  Sparty On @6.3.6    6 days ago

When did this rule start?

And what/who are you trying to protect with it?

Just curious.

Last line of the CoC, under "Other Policies" {SP}

 
 
nightwalker
6.4  nightwalker  replied to  MUVA @6    one week ago

YOU could always start another topic in another article, you know.

 
 
Heartland American
6.4.1  Heartland American  replied to  nightwalker @6.4    4 days ago

As could you....

 
 
Dulay
6.5  Dulay  replied to  MUVA @6    one week ago
By the comments on this seed I see some are starting to believe their own hype come back to reality you are not successful.

So you are? Please tell us all about the secrete of your success.

I can tell because all the really successful people I know and do work for would never go on a site like this.

How did you end up degrading yourself so thoroughly that you are forced to comment on this lowly website? One would think that your exposure to 'really successful people' would have given you enough insight to preclude your downfall...

I'm about done with it my it is no different than news vine at the end.

Don't go, we could all use an occasional comic relief. 

 
 
DocPhil
7  DocPhil    one week ago

After a year and a half of Trump, I'm pretty sure that his voter basket is filled with about 33% deplorables, 33% misguided republicans who have always voted republican and just followed that instinct, and 34% of voters who wake up every morning, look at the news, what our president says and does, and then say a prayer "Dear God, WTF did I do on that November day? Please help me correct the worst mistake of my life."

 
 
lennylynx
7.1  lennylynx  replied to  DocPhil @7    one week ago

Wish I could say a third of them regret it, but that doesn't really square with a 40% approval rating.  I would say that the Trump voters who turned against him are in the 15-20% range.

 
 
Heartland American
7.1.1  Heartland American  replied to  lennylynx @7.1    one week ago

Nowhere near that high.  

 
 
Dulay
7.1.2  Dulay  replied to  Heartland American @7.1.1    one week ago
Nowhere near that high.  

Trump 'won' by .05% of the vote. He can't even afford to loose 1%. 

 
 
Heartland American
7.1.3  Heartland American  replied to  Dulay @7.1.2    6 days ago

I thought he had a minority of the popular vote.  It all depends where he loses any votes. Losing support in California, New York, Illinois, and a hand full of others would be meaningless.  Lost support in Michigan or Wisconsin would hurt a lot.  

 
 
Thrawn 31
7.1.4  Thrawn 31  replied to  Heartland American @7.1.3    3 days ago

And it isn't looking good for him there because, surprise, American factories import a lot of mats and parts. 

 
 
Spikegary
7.2  Spikegary  replied to  DocPhil @7    one week ago

So, who is the alternative?  Who is going to run in 2020?  Have the dems decided on their new frontrunner?  Why has no one heard an answer on this?  Ah, too many are bleating about how bad it is to have President Trump instead of answering the 'elephant in the room' questioon, WTF did we do wrong and how do we fix it and win this back?  The only voice anyone hears is Hillary telling us every week how a different segment of society caused her loss and Bernie (who the democrats conspired to keep out of office) trying to gain credibility.

Until I see a candidate and hear his/her platform, you can bleat all you want, you still won't win anything.

 
 
r.t..b...
7.2.1  r.t..b...  replied to  Spikegary @7.2    one week ago
how bad it is to have President Trump

Running solely on an anti-Trump platform will do nothing but give him another four years. The Dems are gobsmacked and have basically wasted two years in this wrestlemania. The coming midterms will be illuminating...should they flip the House, don't expect any changes for the run-up to 2020, just two years of futile impeachment hearings, the further empowering of trump's base, and still no alternative proffered. Warren would be a gift to trumpism. Move to the middle or lose to this dullard again, doubling our embarrassment and accelerating your slide into irrelevancy.

 
 
TTGA
7.2.2  TTGA  replied to  r.t..b... @7.2.1    one week ago
Running solely on an anti-Trump platform will do nothing but give him another four years

Running on a platform of how great it is to have a Marxist/Socialist country won't do much for them either.  All of us (at least the older ones) saw what the USSR was like and how that Socialist thing came out for them.

 
 
lib50
8  lib50    one week ago
When pundits on television go after Rep. Devin Nunes (R-Calif.), they inevitably resort to attacking his Tulare roots, and his dairy-farm upbringing (“A former dairy farmer”; “way over his head”; “nothing in his résumé that would have qualified him for the post,” etc.) to claim that he is mismatched by Harvard-trained Adam Schiff. Again, how strange that egalitarians always revert to base snobbery and class stereotypes in lieu of an argument or an idea.

That is absolutely untrue, the reason Nunes is 'under attack' is because he is openly obstructing justice and trying to lie and obfuscate what is going on with Mueller's investigation.  Don't try to ignore the biggest elephant in the damn room, Nunes could be from a solid upper white middle class district and be getting the same shit for the same reasons.  Nunes has been working with Trump to thwart the truth from coming out, his treason is the reason I attack him, and everything I read about opinions are the same. You don't get to change the reason Nunes is being scrutinized and criticized.   I'll say it again, treason is the reason.

 
 
bbl-1
8.1  bbl-1  replied to  lib50 @8    one week ago

The FSB has Nunes in the bag.  Rohrabacher too.  Probably a few others also.

 
 
lib50
8.1.1  lib50  replied to  bbl-1 @8.1    one week ago

I can't wait to read the Woodward book next month (Fear).   He has spoken with everybody in DC, his connections are unmatched.  I think Russian connections to the RNC and GOP are included.    Comes out Sept 11,  and should be the bomb.  Boom!

 
 
Heartland American
8.2  Heartland American  replied to  lib50 @8    5 days ago

There is no treason.  

 
 
cjcold
8.2.1  cjcold  replied to  Heartland American @8.2    5 days ago
There is no treason
Keep saying that loudly with your eyes closed and your fingers in your ears while clicking your heels together.
 
 
Phoenyx13
9  Phoenyx13    one week ago

who are these "royal elites" ? what are their names ? what are their personality characteristics ? are they rich ? are they educated ?

 
 
bbl-1
10  bbl-1    one week ago

Actually, 'the deplorables' are at war with themselves.  They want to take away their own healthcare, remove all protections from their retirements and 401k's, privatize their education, make their government less accountable and if by chance their 15 year old daughter gets pregnant--be forced through government law to have the child whether they want it, can afford it or even have another spare room somewhere.

These folk are not deplorable.  Instead, afraid of themselves, afraid for themselves and just generally, afraid. 

 
 
Kavika
12  Kavika     4 days ago
The Elites’ War On The Deplorables

With all the wars that your in, do you get combat pay?

 
 
Heartland American
12.1  Heartland American  replied to  Kavika @12    4 days ago

Nope.  We defend ourselves for free from the vicious assaults of the secular progressive left that besiege us non stop.  

 
 
Kavika
12.1.1  Kavika   replied to  Heartland American @12.1    4 days ago
Nope.  We defend ourselves for free from the vicious assaults of the secular progressive left that besiege us non stop.

OMG, that is too funny HA....

 
 
Dulay
12.1.2  Dulay  replied to  Heartland American @12.1    4 days ago
We defend ourselves for free from the vicious assaults of the secular progressive left that besiege us non stop.  

Oh the irony!

If not for the 'secular progressive left', instead of spouting BS on the internet, y'all would still be passing out leaflets at road blocks on the weekends...

BTW, please share you resource for free internet access, free computers, free legal representation and free guns...

 
 
Heartland American
12.1.3  Heartland American  replied to  Dulay @12.1.2    3 days ago

Why would I be advocating for free stuff?  

 
 
Dulay
12.1.4  Dulay  replied to  Heartland American @12.1.3    3 days ago
Why would I be advocating for free stuff?  

So then y'all aren't 'defending' yourselves for free. Glad you cleared that up. 

 
 
Heartland American
12.1.5  Heartland American  replied to  Dulay @12.1.4    3 days ago

Every thing I’ve ever seeded or said here has been done for free simply because I believe in it.  Your point is?  

 
 
Dulay
12.1.6  Dulay  replied to  Heartland American @12.1.5    3 days ago
Every thing I’ve ever seeded or said here has been done for free simply because I believe in it. Your point is?  

So you DO advocate for 'free stuff', as long as you are the one disseminating it...

 
 
Heartland American
12.1.7  Heartland American  replied to  Dulay @12.1.6    3 days ago

Do you want to pay me for what I seed and comment here?  

 
 
Dulay
12.1.8  Dulay  replied to  Heartland American @12.1.7    3 days ago

You already receive proper payment for it's value. 

 
 
Thrawn 31
12.1.9  Thrawn 31  replied to  Heartland American @12.1    3 days ago

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Heartland American
12.1.10  Heartland American  replied to  Dulay @12.1.8    yesterday

Exactly what you got and get for your comments here.  

 
 
Skrekk
12.2  Skrekk  replied to  Kavika @12    3 days ago

Here's some video evidence of the Elites' War on the Deplorables:

 
 
Thrawn 31
12.2.1  Thrawn 31  replied to  Skrekk @12.2    3 days ago

I watched this, and was really at a loss for words. I mean, this is so fucking stupid that it falls completely off the far edge of the retard scale. Again, this is just one of those things that I cannot possibly even imagine being anything but completely stupid. If anyone here actually buys into this shit, you are so retarded that your very existence is a detriment to the human race. You are honestly so stupid that your stupidity presents a real danger to society, and should be handled. 

 
 
Skrekk
12.2.2  Skrekk  replied to  Thrawn 31 @12.2.1    3 days ago

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Thrawn 31
12.2.3  Thrawn 31  replied to  Skrekk @12.2.2    3 days ago

I think people who are brain dead have more logical activity going on in their brains than the people who buy into this shit. I mean, again, I am absolutely astonished that a human being can be this fucking retarded. I would be less surprised if an alien landed in my backyard and gave me a winning lottery ticket, that is how absurdly dumb this Q thing is. 

 
 
Heartland American
12.2.4  Heartland American  replied to  Thrawn 31 @12.2.3    yesterday

I feel the disdain, contempt, and hate for those Heartland Americans who defied their bicoastal liberal would be elites and voted for Trump despite all the objections of the haters.  

 
 
Thrawn 31
12.2.5  Thrawn 31  replied to  Heartland American @12.2.4    yesterday

Lemme guess, you are Q? 

 
 
JBB
12.2.6  JBB  replied to  Thrawn 31 @12.2.5    yesterday
Lemme guess, you are Q?

Haven't you heard yet? According to Q, Bill and Hillary, John Podesta and Steven Spielberg are Lizard People who operate a chain of child sex establishments disguised as pizza parlors and video rental stores where American children are offered up to be fingered by Muslims, Mexicans and gay people /s... 

 
 
Thrawn 31
12.2.7  Thrawn 31  replied to  JBB @12.2.6    yesterday

This Q thing is honest to god the dumbest shit I have ever heard in my life. The fact that a single person buys this kinda makes me want to kill myself while making sure our star somehow goes supernova and wipes out our species. And notice that HA doesn't even remotely try to distance himself from it.

 
 
Thrawn 31
12.2.8  Thrawn 31  replied to  Heartland American @12.2.4    yesterday

Next comment like that will earn an immediate suspension followed by a membership review.

 
 
Dismayed Patriot
12.2.9  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Heartland American @12.2.4    yesterday
who defied their bicoastal liberal would be elites and voted for Trump despite all the objections of the haters

It shouldn't take any sort of pressure or bending of arms to see Trump is a monumentally incompetent self admitted sexual predator and knows nothing about running a country let alone the four companies he ran into bankruptcy. It shouldn't take any "objections" from haters to see that, just a tiny bit, a minuscule amount of intelligence and objectivity would lead one not to support the gold plated fraud a minority of Americans got elected. Was it against all odds? Yes. It was. And a lot of people love an underdog, I get it. But this underdog isn't, he's a charlatan, a fake, a liar, a cheat, a limped dicked small handed piece of shit bigot and you all know it but are to God damn proud to admit it. Instead, you'd rather watch our country get metaphorically kicked in the balls daily by the numb nuts and chief and his terrible cabinet and horrible administration. 

 
 
JBB
12.2.10  JBB  replied to  Thrawn 31 @12.2.7    yesterday
This Q thing is honest to god the dumbest shit I have ever heard in my life.

Q could be just any crazy meth-head in Arkansas or else just a ruse by Putin's Troll Army...

 
 
Thrawn 31
12.2.11  Thrawn 31  replied to  JBB @12.2.10    yesterday

And that is even crazier to me, this "Q" could literally be a homeless dude at the public library. 

 
 
Heartland American
12.2.12  Heartland American  replied to  Thrawn 31 @12.2.5    yesterday

Q?  The letter in the alphabet or the semi hostile character in Star Trek Next Generation? Otherwise I don’t deal in conspiracy theories from any viewpoint.  I generally mock those who push most of them, especially the 9-11 inside job/thermite/ not planes that hit the buildings garbage.  

 
 
Heartland American
12.2.13  Heartland American  replied to  Thrawn 31 @12.2.7    yesterday

I don’t know anything about it and don’t care to as it has nothing to do with my day to day life.  

 
 
Thrawn 31
12.2.14  Thrawn 31  replied to  Heartland American @12.2.13    yesterday

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Thrawn 31
12.2.15  Thrawn 31  replied to  Heartland American @12.2.12    yesterday

deleted

 
 
Thrawn 31
12.2.16  Thrawn 31  replied to  Thrawn 31 @12.2.15    9 hours ago

Oh come on, those comments have as much value as anything HA ever says.

 
 
Thrawn 31
12.2.17  Thrawn 31  replied to  Thrawn 31 @12.2.8    9 hours ago
Next comment like that will earn an immediate suspension followed by a membership review.

Meh.

 
 
Heartland American
12.2.18  Heartland American  replied to  Thrawn 31 @12.2.16    7 hours ago

Whether you like what I seed or what I express as my opinion or not, it gives no one the right to make me personally the issue of a seed or thread.  I certainly don’t do it to the secular progressives or anyone else here I disagree with as much as some disagree with me.   Play nice on my seeds please.  

 
 
Thrawn 31
13  Thrawn 31    3 days ago

Just to be clear, Trump supporters do realize that he, and everyone around him, are part of the elite right? How many plumbers from "whothefuckknowswhere" America are in his cabinet or heading up major govt agencies? I mean, they get that their president is a super rich asshole who is surrounded by other super rich assholes right? But yeah, he totally has YOUR best interests at heart. 

 
 
Heartland American
13.1  Heartland American  replied to  Thrawn 31 @13    2 days ago

Trump has shown more concern and care for the common person in America than any President since Reagan.  

 
 
Thrawn 31
13.1.1  Thrawn 31  replied to  Heartland American @13.1    yesterday

By shitting on them at every turn? Yeah okay. I mean don't get me wrong, he has been GREAT for my portfolio, and I just find it absolutely hilarious that some people think he actually gives a shit about people other than myself. If you honest to god think he is working in your best interests then you really have not a fucking clue as to what is going on. 

 
 
Sparty On
14  Sparty On    20 hours ago

Q?

The liberal information ministers are really working OT now.  

Wonder if they're getting paid time and a half?

 
 
Thrawn 31
14.1  Thrawn 31  replied to  Sparty On @14    18 hours ago

So wait, those are liberals showing up to support Trump? 

 
 
Sparty On
14.1.1  Sparty On  replied to  Thrawn 31 @14.1    18 hours ago

No, i think its a street car window washer.   You know, the guy with the requisite "The end is near" sign who got some free internet time and posted some gibberish.

Now some in the media or otherwise are trying to intimate that it is somehow a norm of thinking for many.    Took the bait, hook, line and sinker they did.

SOSDD .....

 
 
Thrawn 31
14.1.2  Thrawn 31  replied to  Sparty On @14.1.1    9 hours ago

Sorry dude, but mother fuckers are showing up to his egotistical jerk off sessions advocating this Q bullshit. Removed

 
 
Sparty On
14.1.3  Sparty On  replied to  Thrawn 31 @14.1.2    9 hours ago

Lol, sorry dude but the real retards are the one spazing out over shit that isn’t there.

Removed 

 
 
KDMichigan
14.1.4  KDMichigan  replied to  Thrawn 31 @14.1.2    8 hours ago
extremely retarded element supporting Trump.

I support Trump.

There is a extremely retarded element of progressive Liberals that cry everyday because they are losers and expect the government to support them and there worthless base for there bad decisions.crying

 
 
lennylynx
14.1.5  lennylynx  replied to  KDMichigan @14.1.4    8 hours ago
"I support Trump."

For your own sake, I hope you keep that to yourself.

 
 
KDMichigan
14.1.6  KDMichigan  replied to  lennylynx @14.1.5    8 hours ago
I hope you keep that to yourself.

Why would I?

People are making money and spending it on me to build them shit. It has been a very good year.

 
 
Heartland American
14.1.7  Heartland American  replied to  lennylynx @14.1.5    7 hours ago

Why.  I didn’t before the election but I sure do now. He’s done some great things since winning.  

 
 
JohnRussell
15  JohnRussell    7 hours ago

Waiting for the next Trump rally 

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