Raise Your Hand If You Think President* Trump Solved 'The North Korea Problem'

Raise Your Hand If You Think President* Trump Solved 'The North Korea Problem'
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Raise Your Hand If You Think President* Trump Solved 'The North Korea Problem'

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North Korea is "over" .  It's done. Trump had great "chemistry" with Kim Jong Un , which was the main goal of these 'negotiations', and by osmosis the nuclear weapons crisis regarding North Korea was "solved".  We know this is true because President Trump told us so. 

If You Believe Everything President Trump Says Is True, Raise Your Hand

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OK then. 

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Just one minor thing


National security adviser John Bolton said Tuesday that North Korea has not made progress toward denuclearization in a dismal acknowledgment that comes nearly two months after President Trump held a historic summit with North Korean leader Kim Jong Un in Singapore.
https://thedailybanter.com/issues/2018/08/08/north-korea-hasnt-denuclearized/
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JohnRussell
1  JohnRussell    6 days ago

He has a lot of success in getting the deplorables to believe that what is not true is true. 

 
 
Trout Giggles
1.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  JohnRussell @1    6 days ago

Shocking

 
 
JohnRussell
1.1.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.1    6 days ago

If Trump tells them the desert is underwater, they will believe him. There are actually people who say they believe everything Donald Trump says. I saw a few of them interviewed at one of his rallies last week. 

I'd want to ask them what it feels like to give up the ability to think for yourself, but if you can't think for yourself you don't realize you have a problem. 

 
 
nightwalker
1.1.2  nightwalker  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.1    5 days ago

But it makes life so much easier, without that thinking problem, think of the time you save by not thinking. Just have somebody TELL you what your opinion is, you know there are other who heard it and will also agree, so poof, you're in a group, all comfortable like.

You know, look deeeep into my eyes    stunned   

oh wait, I usually agree with your comments, so never mind.

 
 
Galen Marvin Ross
1.1.3  Galen Marvin Ross  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.1    5 days ago
If Trump tells them the desert is underwater, they will believe him. There are actually people who say they believe everything Donald Trump says. I saw a few of them interviewed at one of his rallies last week. 

When I saw the  bolded part it made me think of this,

 
 
Ozzwald
1.2  Ozzwald  replied to  JohnRussell @1    6 days ago
He has a lot of success in getting the deplorables to believe that what is not true is true. 

Believe me!!!

 
 
Tessylo
1.2.1  Tessylo  replied to  Ozzwald @1.2    5 days ago

Is 'Believe Me' a pre-programmed hypnotic instruction for his followers?

 
 
Tessylo
1.2.2  Tessylo  replied to  Ozzwald @1.2    5 days ago

I could only stomach about 3 minutes of his shit.  Believe me.  

 
 
Ozzwald
1.2.3  Ozzwald  replied to  Tessylo @1.2.1    5 days ago

Is 'Believe Me' a pre-programmed hypnotic instruction for his followers?

He gets a Pavlovian response from his followers.

 
 
Tessylo
1.2.4  Tessylo  replied to  Ozzwald @1.2.3    5 days ago

What turned me off specifically was when he said he loved women and that he had great respect for women.  Believe me.  That's when I had enough of his shit.  Believe me.  

 
 
Ozzwald
1.2.5  Ozzwald  replied to  Tessylo @1.2.4    5 days ago
That's when I had enough of his shit.  Believe me.

He uses that term, "believe me", when he is going to throw a whopper of a lie.  The type of lie that anyone with a 3rd grade mentality or above, should see right through, but his people are convinced that he is telling the truth.

Another good tell of his, is when he says "some people don't know this, but".  Translation is, he didn't know it.

 
 
Trout Giggles
1.2.6  Trout Giggles  replied to  Ozzwald @1.2.5    5 days ago

And you know the really sad part of his lying is he isn't even any good at it! A good liar remembers what he said 2 minutes ago he can't remember what lie just came out of his mouth.

For someone who lies so much you would think he'd be better at it

 
 
Ozzwald
1.2.7  Ozzwald  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.2.6    5 days ago

For someone who lies so much you would think he'd be better at it

The issue is that I think he believes his own lies.  The truth is mutable to Trump.

 
 
Tessylo
1.3  Tessylo  replied to  JohnRussell @1    5 days ago

What's the deal with the guy in the first picture behind Rump?  It looks like he has some kind of costume on - like cement blocks?  

 
 
Trout Giggles
1.3.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  Tessylo @1.3    5 days ago

I think it's supposed to represent a wall

 
 
Tessylo
1.3.2  Tessylo  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.3.1    5 days ago

Thanks TG.  That makes sense.  

 
 
Split Personality
2  Split Personality    6 days ago

The POTUS believes that California wastes water while fighting out of control forest fires, all the while denying climate change or record breaking weather events.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/06/climate/trump-california-fire-tweets.html
 
 
JohnRussell
2.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Split Personality @2    6 days ago
The POTUS believes that California wastes water

He got that idea from INFOWARS

Guess where Trump got his insane "fire" theories

 
 
Enoch
3  Enoch    6 days ago

Dear Friend John Russell: For three generations the Kim dictator dynasty has never followed any treaty they signed.

I am not aware of any evidence to verify or suggest this time will be different.

I am no fan of the North Korean Government.

I do opine that distrust and over verify is in order here.

I hope all works out for their people, the area and the world as regards any impact the Kim family may have.

Believe me when I write that I will believe it when I see that they do the right thing for their people, the area and world peace.

Not holding my breathe.

Enoch.

 
 
Skrekk
3.1  Skrekk  replied to  Enoch @3    5 days ago
For three generations the Kim dictator dynasty has never followed any treaty they signed.

Apparently the US has the same problem when the GOP is in charge.

 
 
Kathleen/Butterfie
4  Kathleen/Butterfie    5 days ago

I can't raise my hand.

He is sneaky, he would lie to any President.

 
 
JohnRussell
4.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Kathleen/Butterfie @4    5 days ago

Do you think that Trump unduly claimed credit for solving the problem w/ N Korea? 

 
 
WallyW
4.1.1  WallyW  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1    5 days ago

No.

 
 
Kathleen/Butterfie
4.1.2  Kathleen/Butterfie  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1    5 days ago

I think they are testing Trump to see how far they can push him. Trump wheels and deals, I think Trump is making them think he thinks everything is okay.

Trump has done something that no other President has done before. You must admit that. 

 
 
JohnRussell
4.1.3  JohnRussell  replied to  Kathleen/Butterfie @4.1.2    5 days ago

You often sound a lot like a true blue Trump supporter.  If that is not your intention I guess you are misunderstood. 

Trump returned from Korea bragging about how "great" everything went.  Two months later there is no tangible advancement toward denuclearizing North Korea. Shouldn't Trump stop bragging on a meeting that has yet to produce any results? 

 
 
JohnRussell
4.1.4  JohnRussell  replied to  WallyW @4.1.1    5 days ago

Well then you would be mistaken Wally. 

 
 
Dismayed Patriot
4.1.5  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Kathleen/Butterfie @4.1.2    5 days ago
Trump has done something that no other President has done before. You must admit that.

But there's a reason no other President would do what he did, mainly they're not stupid enough to believe it would work. Giving up our two best bargaining chips of global recognition (which they have been wanting for decades), and removing the military drills with South Korea, have left us looking weak while lifting up the Kim regime. And what did we get in return? Repatriation of a few hundred soldiers remains.... and an unverifiable promise that eventually NK will work towards denuclearization, someday, maybe. No other President would have done that because it's monumentally stupid and doesn't have a snowballs chance in hell of succeeding.

 
 
WallyW
4.1.6  WallyW  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @4.1.5    5 days ago

This whole situation is like any other agreement...it can be a long process and won't be accomplished overnite just to satisfy the anti-Trumpers. In the meantime, no rocket test have been made lately, Kim has kept quiet, and the exercises with South Korea can start again at any time. Some people really over analyze all of this, but Trump is doing the right thing, and he's doing it his way.

 
 
Kathleen/Butterfie
4.1.7  Kathleen/Butterfie  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.3    5 days ago

Just because I don't hate him as much as you do John, does not mean I support him.

You need to stop thinking like that, I did not vote for him.

 
 
Kathleen/Butterfie
4.1.8  Kathleen/Butterfie  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @4.1.5    5 days ago

Maybe not, but at least Trump was not afraid to confront the little turd.

 
 
Dismayed Patriot
4.1.9  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  WallyW @4.1.6    5 days ago
like any other agreement...it can be a long process and won't be accomplished overnite just to satisfy the anti-Trumpers. In the meantime, no rocket test have been made lately, Kim has kept quiet

So, like the agreement with Iran? The one with actual oversight and investigators and verification of denuclearization? Iran kept quiet after the deal was made but Republicans claimed it wasn't good enough, they shouted and whined, stomped their feet and gnashed their tooth. I guess the flimsy deal Trump made "just needs time" but the solid deal that the P5+1 (the permanent members of the United Nations Security Council—the United States, the United Kingdom, Russia, France, and China—plus Germany) and the European Union put together over several years was just worthless garbage, right? The hypocrisy of the right wing knows no bounds.

 
 
Tessylo
4.1.10  Tessylo  replied to  Kathleen/Butterfie @4.1.2    5 days ago
'Trump wheels and deals, I think Trump is making them think he thinks everything is okay. Trump has done something that no other President has done before. You must admit that. '

That's hilarious.  No, no one has to admit anything.  He hasn't done dick as far as North Korea.  North Korea is rapidly upgrading nuclear site despite the summit 'vow' they made.  They're believed to be making more nuclear bomb fuel despite talks.  His Secretary of State even states that Kim Jong-Un is still producing nuclear weapons.  Yeah,  I guess he's done something no other president has done before - gave legitimacy to Kim Jong-Un and getting dick in return.    

https://www.wsj.com/articles/north-korea-still-building-at-nuclear-research-facility-despite-summit-diplomacy-1530100351

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-northkorea-missles-usa-report/u-s-intelligence-believes-north-korea-making-more-nuclear-bomb-fuel-despite-talks-nbc-idUSKBN1JQ03O

https://www.news.com.au/world/kim-jongun-still-producing-nuclear-weapons-us-secretary-of-state/news-story/5deee750b951522cc515c663a0bea852

 
 
WallyW
4.1.11  WallyW  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @4.1.9    5 days ago
So, like the agreement with Iran? The one with actual oversight and investigators and verification of denuclearization?......but the solid deal that the P5+1 (the permanent members of the United Nations Security Council—the United States, the United Kingdom, Russia, France, and China—plus Germany) and the European Union put together over several years was just worthless garbage, right?
Where and when has there been verification that they are keeping the terms of the deal...since they will not allow authentic inspections. Yes, the deal is worthless garbage because there is not evidence they are living up to it. Only fools would believe this is, or ever has been, an honest regime. And we had to pay a ransom to get it done!
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
4.1.12  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  WallyW @4.1.11    5 days ago
Where and when has there been verification that they are keeping the terms of the deal...since they will not allow authentic inspections.

"There are 18 nuclear facilities and nine other facilities in Iran monitored by IAEA. The IAEA inspects these sites to see if their activities match descriptions submitted by Iran.
 
Kelsey Davenport, Director for Nonproliferation Policy with the Arms Control Association said: “Iran is a unique case in that some key locations are subject to 24-hour surveillance and inspection teams are continually in Iran to verify its compliance with the agreement.”
 
The IAEA’s main focus in Iran is monitoring uranium enrichment. This process can produce fuel to run nuclear reactors or make a nuclear weapon. 
 
Under the Iran nuclear deal, Iran has promised not to enrich uranium above 3.67 percent. Nuclear weapons are typically made of uranium enriched at 90 percent or more.

The IAEA has not wavered from its conclusion that Iran is compliant. “Iran has not enriched uranium above 3.67%,” the agency said in one of its assessments in 2017.
 
The IAEA continually measures Iran’s stockpiles of enriched uranium and counts the number of centrifuges.

“Inspectors can also use images, including from satellites, to verify activities and investigate concerns about undeclared activities or sites,” Davenport said.
 
In 2017, U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Nikki Haley expressed concerns that Iran hasn’t declared all of its nuclear activities to the IAEA.

But suspicions aren’t enough to trigger an inspection. “If the IAEA has concerns that Iran is conducting illicit nuclear activities at sites outside of the declared facilities, inspectors must first present Iran with their concerns and ask for clarifications,” Davenport said.
 
“If Tehran is unable to provide explanations that address the IAEA’s concerns, inspectors can request access to any location, including military sites. Within a 24-day period, Iran must provide the necessary access.”

Since 2016, the IAEA has issued 11 reports certifying that Iran has met its requirements under the deal. The Agency also said it has gained access to all requested sites in 2017

https://america.cgtn.com/2018/05/01/how-do-the-iran-nuclear-deal-inspections-work

So actual inspections in Iran aren't "authentic" enough for you, but ZERO inspection in NK is supposedly a "good deal" we can trust? Really?

 
 
Kathleen/Butterfie
4.1.13  Kathleen/Butterfie  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @4.1.5    4 days ago

At least he made an effort. If it helped? I really could not say. Doing nothing we would know that it would not help for certain. I bet if it was another President that did that, you would be praising them. It's Trump, and you all hate him, so of course you will say it's stupid. 

So it really has no value in that sense.

 
 
321steve
5  321steve    5 days ago

Trump Solved 'The North Korea Problem.........

Prove it. 

 
 
Trout Giggles
5.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  321steve @5    5 days ago

Are you channeling Gordy today? snicker

 
 
321steve
5.1.1  321steve  replied to  Trout Giggles @5.1    5 days ago
Are you channeling Gordy today? snicker

Not likely, I speak MY mind. Don't you like my post ? Don't you believe in trust but verify ? 

trump seems to says a lot of shit that can't be verified, I'm not a believer in Alt-facts and I certainly dont believe what trump says, so verification to me is not only smart, but necessary. 

If there is NO nuclear threat now from N Korean mr president... prove it. 

cause till then I really do not believe that is true.

So far too me this N Korean "agreement" looks just another "Mission accomplished"  ... 

sad

 
 
Trout Giggles
5.1.2  Trout Giggles  replied to  321steve @5.1.1    5 days ago

I didn't mean to offend you. Gordy is always saying "prove it" and it cracks me up. That's why I laughed when I saw your comment.

I know you speak your mind and I'm all for distrust and verify. The orange baby-man in the White House has given me serious trust issues

 
 
Kathleen/Butterfie
5.1.3  Kathleen/Butterfie  replied to  Trout Giggles @5.1    4 days ago

I told him that will be on his tombstone...

 
 
igknorantzrulz
5.1.4  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Kathleen/Butterfie @5.1.3    4 days ago
told him that will be on his tombstone...

I want Mushrooms on mine

 
 
pat wilson
5.1.5  pat wilson  replied to  igknorantzrulz @5.1.4    4 days ago

If your grave is in the shade you might get your wish. smile.

 
 
igknorantzrulz
5.1.6  igknorantzrulz  replied to  pat wilson @5.1.5    4 days ago

it is

perhaps its not damp n moist enuff here

cant do much right lately

may b

xtra cheese n pepperoni

 
 
Trout Giggles
5.1.7  Trout Giggles  replied to  igknorantzrulz @5.1.6    4 days ago

A little horse manure will ensure you get shrooms on your grave

 
 
Trout Giggles
5.1.8  Trout Giggles  replied to  Kathleen/Butterfie @5.1.3    4 days ago

Giggle

 
 
MrFrost
6  MrFrost    5 days ago

I don't think trump could solve the dilemma of how to replace the toilet paper roll. 

Lets look at this problem. Trump insults Lil' Kim over and over and over and over again... Then kisses his ass, then has a meeting and claims he saved the world. This is trumps usual M.O. He does it with almost everything. 

1) Create a problem.

2) Walk back a few steps

3) Have a meeting and no matter what happens, proclaim that he alone has saved the universe from certain destruction. 

It's not good enough for trump to force people to kiss his orange bloated ass, he has to create situations so he can stroke his own ego. 

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What did we give up, to Kim? We stopped our training in South Korea, which is HUGE, (both in scope and presence). That alone is giving up the farm. I was part of that same exercise when I was in the Marines, the media downplays it a bit, but reality is that it is a very large exercise.

Now what did Kim give up? Nada. In fact he has increased his nuke capabilities. The media claims that several "nuke facilities" were destroyed by kim. Not so. They were R&D facilities to develop an ICBM. They have them now, so these "nuke facilities", no longer have a purpose. Destroying them meant almost nothing at all. 

Did trumpy solved the North Korea problem? Oh HELL no, if anything he has made it worse.

One thing people forget... The DMZ is literally a 20 minute drive from down town Seoul, (which is an amazing city if you ever get the chance). Just on the other side of the DMZ, Lil' Kim has 5-7,000 50 year old artillery pieces, all aimed at Seoul. He doesn't need nukes. He can flatten Seoul with one artillery barrage, from 50 year old equipment. And if that crazy little bastard ever wanted to nuke Seoul? Load it in a truck and drive it down there, (yes, more complicated than that, but you see my point). 

Winning? Newp. Not even close. Trump got played by a short, fat, tin plated dictator with bad hair. 

 
 
WallyW
6.1  WallyW  replied to  MrFrost @6    5 days ago
And if that crazy little bastard ever wanted to nuke Seoul? Load it in a truck and drive it down there, (yes, more complicated than that, but you see my point). 

He may or may not have deliverable nukes, but we do and who knows what South Korea might be doing secretly behind the scenes. Little Fat Boy has no way out of his self induced dilemma. It's just a matter of time.

 
 
Trout Giggles
6.1.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  WallyW @6.1    5 days ago

But do you want to wait for Lil Kim to drive a nuke tipped missile into downtown Seoul?

I don't. Let's stop the little bastard now. I sure wish somebody would...you know....

 
 
WallyW
6.1.2  WallyW  replied to  Trout Giggles @6.1.1    5 days ago
I don't. Let's stop the little bastard now. I sure wish somebody would...you know....

So we should nuke NK now and get it over with? Face Palm

 
 
Trout Giggles
6.1.3  Trout Giggles  replied to  WallyW @6.1.2    5 days ago

No...send in a team of assassins.

Boy, I hope that doesn't get me in trouble

 
 
Tessylo
6.2  Tessylo  replied to  MrFrost @6    5 days ago
'Trump got played by a short, fat, tin plated dictator with bad hair.' 

Sounds just like Rump but he is taller, fatter, and a would be dictator with a ridiculous combover.  

 
 
MrFrost
6.2.1  MrFrost  replied to  Tessylo @6.2    5 days ago

Exactly 😆

 
 
MUVA
7  MUVA    5 days ago

Give Trump 6 more years see if he can solve the problem did Obama solve it in 8 years?

 
 
MrFrost
7.1  MrFrost  replied to  MUVA @7    5 days ago
Give Trump 6 more years see if he can solve the problem did Obama solve it in 8 years?

Two bush's and a reagan as well? Weird how you guys always seem to forget them. 

 
 
MUVA
7.1.1  MUVA  replied to  MrFrost @7.1    5 days ago

I didn't forget them I just didn't bring them up.

 
 
WallyW
7.1.2  WallyW  replied to  MrFrost @7.1    5 days ago

Obama just kicked the problem down the road.

 
 
JohnRussell
7.2  JohnRussell  replied to  MUVA @7    5 days ago

I don't blame Trump for not succeeding. I blame him for bragging like he did. This man does nothing but try and bamboozle this country and his fans slurp it up. 

 
 
WallyW
7.2.1  WallyW  replied to  JohnRussell @7.2    5 days ago

But he is succeeding. Tell us why you think he isn't

 
 
Tessylo
7.2.2  Tessylo  replied to  WallyW @7.2.1    5 days ago
'But he is succeeding.'

at what?

 
 
nightwalker
8  nightwalker    5 days ago

Forget it. Un, his father and his grandfather have been playing this same game with the west and it's always been smoke and mirrors. trump is just silly enough to yell out how good he's doing when he is no farther then any other of the many presidents that have ever tried to deal with him.

 
 
Trout Giggles
8.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  nightwalker @8    5 days ago

His ego keeps writing checks this country can't cash

 
 
bbl-1
9  bbl-1    5 days ago

The only 'real problem' concerning NK is for the population that lives in fear, misery and poverty.

If NK uses any of its weapons or attacks any of it neighbors----NK as we know it will no longer exist.

As far as the Trump and his 'deal' without any deal?  Well, there wasn't anything with an Obama tag on it so the Trump ended up in the same place he started. 

Kim, however, got his pictures in the papers, had a nice trip and thus far nobody will tell us who ended paying the hotel bills for his excursion.  One more thing.  China had to send jets to transport the Kim entourage because NK does not have even one aircraft that could reliably make the trip to Singapore.  That in itself should tell you something.  And it tells me that the US taxpayers paid his hotel bills.  Yep, the Trump--the deal maker.

 
 
Bob Nelson
10  Bob Nelson    5 days ago
National security adviser John Bolton said Tuesday that North Korea has not made progress toward denuclearization...

How long do we give Bolton in the Trump Administration?

Will Bolton quit, or will Trump fire him?

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Tessylo
11  Tessylo    5 days ago

What's especially funny is how in all of his 'rallies' they're all carrying the same signs.  You know they didn't pay to have those signs made up.  I heard they were handed out to his brainwashed followers at the rally.  Who pays for that?

 
 
XDm9mm
12  XDm9mm    5 days ago

Not yet, but it's a work in progress.  Hell, no one else in the last 60 years has tried anything.  Well, except for Bill 'slick willy' Clinton giving them nuclear capabilities that is.

But at least President Trump effectively eviscerated ISIS as opposed to Obama simply trying to "contain" them.

 
 
96WS6
13  96WS6    5 days ago

It is certainly not done.  In fact we have not gotten very far.   That being said, at least he is trying.  It is also important to keep in perceptive that "not very far" is still a lot farther than we have gotten in decades, but yes, There is certainly still a long (and probably difficult) way to go.

 
 
XDm9mm
13.1  XDm9mm  replied to  96WS6 @13    5 days ago

Hell, it took Reagan years to push the former Soviet Union to implosion.

Trump is trying the carrot and stick first.

 
 
Tessylo
13.1.1  Tessylo  replied to  XDm9mm @13.1    5 days ago
'Trump is trying the carrot and stick first'

So that's what they call being Putin's puppet nowadays?

Funny!

 
 
Bob Nelson
13.1.2  Bob Nelson  replied to  XDm9mm @13.1    5 days ago
it took Reagan years to push the former Soviet Union to implosion.

"Containment" began as soon as WWII ended. It was the brainchild of George C. Marshall, and was pursued by all Presidents, regardless of party.

 
 
Tessylo
14  Tessylo    5 days ago

'But at least President Trump effectively eviscerated ISIS'

How did he do that?

 
 
JohnRussell
14.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Tessylo @14    5 days ago

A school bus in Yemen was attacked today, resulting in the deaths of dozens of young children. Our ally, Saudi Arabia, was responsible. 

You never hear Trump mention the civil war in Yemen, do you? 

 
 
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