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'Be happy, be cool': Trump tweets once again about NFL protests

  

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Via:  tessylo  •  6 years ago  •  68 comments

'Be happy, be cool':  Trump tweets once again about NFL protests

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'Be happy, be cool': Trump tweets once again about NFL protests



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Tessylo
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1  seeder  Tessylo    6 years ago

It's none of your goddamned business Rump.

Another dog whistle to your supporters.  

 
 
 
arkpdx
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1.1  arkpdx  replied to  Tessylo @1    6 years ago

You are the one that seems to be doing all the barking! 

 
 
 
Tacos!
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1.2  Tacos!  replied to  Tessylo @1    6 years ago
It's none of your goddamned business Rump

Well, of course it's his business. The players made it his business when they protested during a nationally televised football game. In fact, that's what they wanted. They wanted to make it everyone's business. Mission accomplished.

What they maybe didn't count on was that some people - a majority of the country, it turns out - actually disagree with them either on the message or the tactic and are speaking out themselves. Some speak out on Twitter, like the president. Some express themselves by not going to games or turning them off. All I can say to that is: too bad; that's life!

If they had wanted to keep it private, they could have discreetly mailed a strongly worded letter to the local police chief or their congressman or someone similar.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.2.1  seeder  Tessylo  replied to  Tacos! @1.2    6 years ago

No it's not his business because the NFL is not his business.  He cannot dictate how the owners discipline or penalize the players.  It's none of his goddamned business. It's also just another distraction.   

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
1.2.2  Tacos!  replied to  Tessylo @1.2.1    6 years ago

Then why is it any of your business? Why do you get to chime in on the topic?

 
 
 
Skrekk
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1.2.3  Skrekk  replied to  Tacos! @1.2    6 years ago
Well, of course it's his business. The players made it his business when they protested during a nationally televised football game. In fact, that's what they wanted. They wanted to make it everyone's business. Mission accomplished.

No surprise that Trump is on the wrong side of both the police brutality issue AND the 1st Amendment issue.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.2.4  seeder  Tessylo  replied to  Tacos! @1.2.2    6 years ago

Excuse me?  

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.2.5  seeder  Tessylo  replied to  Tacos! @1.2    6 years ago

How did the players make it his business?

 
 
 
A. Macarthur
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1.2.6  A. Macarthur  replied to  Tacos! @1.2    6 years ago
Well, of course it's his business. The players made it his business when they protested during a nationally televised football game. In fact, that's what they wanted. They wanted to make it everyone's business. Mission accomplished.

The NFL originally began the practice of players standing on the field during the National Anthem, NOT OUT OF A SENSE OF PATRIOTISM, but because …

The players were moved to the field during the national anthem because it was seen as a marketing strategy to make the athletes look more patriotic. The United States Department of Defense paid the National Football League $5.4 million between 2011 and 2014, and the National Guard [paid] $6.7 million between 2013 and 2015 to stage on-field patriotic ceremonies as part of military recruitment budget-line items.

The practice of “paid patriotism” came to light on 30 April 2015, when Sen. Jeff Flake (R-AZ) released a  statement  chiding the New Jersey Army National Guard for paying between $97,000 and $115,000 to the New York Jets for a series of promotions involving military personnel. That November, Flake and fellow Arizona Republican Sen. John McCain issued a  report  stating that the Defense Department had been paying for patriotic displays in football and other sports between 2011 and 2014:

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How is it that NFL Players are denigrated by Trump (and his base) for protesting the police shootings of unarmed Blacks …

WHILE NEO-NAZI/WHITE NATIONALISTS ARE REFERRED TO BY TRUMP AS "FINE PEOPLE" … when they march with torches essentially PROTESTING THE RIGHTS OF JEWS, BLACKS and IMMIGRANTS TO EVEN EXIST?

Trump plays to the racists, xenophobes and other knuckle-draggers in his base; the NFL protests are but one example.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.2.7  seeder  Tessylo  replied to  A. Macarthur @1.2.6    6 years ago

It's all faux patriotism and the Rump supporters respond like rabid dogs to his dog whistles 

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
1.2.8  Tacos!  replied to  Tessylo @1.2.4    6 years ago
Excuse me?

You demanded to know how it's Trump's business. If you get to question his right to comment on a story, then I get to question your right to comment on it. You're full of opinions on it. So, tell us: How is this any of your business?

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
1.2.9  Tacos!  replied to  Tessylo @1.2.5    6 years ago
How did the players make it his business?

Explained in 1.2 .

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.2.10  seeder  Tessylo  replied to  Tacos! @1.2.8    6 years ago

Excuse me?

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.2.11  seeder  Tessylo  replied to  Tacos! @1.2.9    6 years ago

It's not his business, it never was his business. You explained nothing, bupkis. The players never made it his business.   They were using their First Amendment rights which you and the 'president" obviously have a problem with

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.2.12  seeder  Tessylo  replied to  Tacos! @1.2.9    6 years ago

Your explanation in 1.2 makes no sense so you explained nothing.  You got bupkis

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
1.2.13  Tacos!  replied to  Tessylo @1.2.12    6 years ago

I explained that the players wanted to make it everyone's business. That's why they did it so publicly. The president has as much of a right to an opinion as you do. 

You still haven't explained how it's any of your business and why you have a right do express an opinion even though you claim the president doesn't.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.2.14  seeder  Tessylo  replied to  Tacos! @1.2    6 years ago

What difference would it make if they wrote to the local police chief or a senator or someone similar? That's nonsensical.  Who cares if the turd invited them to the white house to talk about it?  None of the protesting players want  to meet with his bigoted fat ass anyway.  The turd in chief made it an issue when he told the world with his tweets and on TV.  Again a racist dog whistle and another distraction.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.2.15  seeder  Tessylo  replied to  Tacos! @1.2.8    6 years ago

It is my business.  It's not rump's business, no way, no how.  

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
1.2.16  Tacos!  replied to  Tessylo @1.2.15    6 years ago

So you have right to express yourself, but Trump doesn't. I get it. We have been back and forth on this.

Okay . . . why?

You and Trump are both citizens and you both have 1st Amendment rights to express yourself. Why do you have a right to opine on this issue but he doesn't?

Also, is there anyone else who doesn't have the right to express an opinion on this topic?

 
 
 
Phoenyx13
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1.2.17  Phoenyx13  replied to  Tacos! @1.2.16    6 years ago
You and Trump are both citizens and you both have 1st Amendment rights to express yourself. Why do you have a right to opine on this issue but he doesn't?

were you upset when Obama weighed in on public situations and gave his opinion ?

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.2.18  seeder  Tessylo  replied to  Tacos! @1.2.16    6 years ago

Yes I do and no he doesn't have a right to interfere in the NFL and how they pay or discipline the players and their right to free speech.  He has no right to trample on their free speech.  You are the one in denial here.

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
1.2.19  Tacos!  replied to  Phoenyx13 @1.2.17    6 years ago
were you upset when Obama weighed in on public situations and gave his opinion ?

Upset? No, but I often thought it was ill-advised. Not always, but sometimes. I think Trump could ignore the NFL situation and I think every time he mentions it, it just enflames things (I share his point of view, though). But in neither case did I try to claim that the president has no right to chime in. That's silly. Every citizen of the United States has the same 1st Amendment rights to free speech.

 
 
 
Phoenyx13
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1.2.20  Phoenyx13  replied to  Tacos! @1.2.19    6 years ago
Upset? No, but I often thought it was ill-advised. Not always, but sometimes. I think Trump could ignore the NFL situation and I think every time he mentions it, it just enflames things (I share his point of view, though). But in neither case did I try to claim that the president has no right to chime in. That's silly. Every citizen of the United States has the same 1st Amendment rights to free speech.

i definitely applaud you for your consistency ! it seems to be rare on both sides of the " aisle ". applause

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
1.3  Tacos!  replied to  Tessylo @1    6 years ago
Another dog whistle to your supporters.

What does that even mean?

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.3.1  seeder  Tessylo  replied to  Tacos! @1.3    6 years ago

Did you read the article?  Read the last paragraph and you will figure it out.   

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
1.3.2  Tacos!  replied to  Tessylo @1.3.1    6 years ago
Read the last paragraph and you will figure it out.

I honestly prefer you explain yourself all by yourself without making me guess. Otherwise I could just be arguing against a straw man. I don't want to assume what your argument is.

 
 
 
MrFrost
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1.3.3  MrFrost  replied to  Tacos! @1.3.2    6 years ago

Fun fact... One of the core beliefs of socialism is the government involving itself in private business.. Like....Oh, I don't know... Trump trying to save jobs with Carrier, (which failed completely), or...gee...what else....tariffs....and....griping that football players are exercising their constitutional right to protest.. 

How does it feel.....TT, to support a SOCIALIST president? 

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Expert
1.3.4  MrFrost  replied to  Tacos! @1.3.2    6 years ago
I honestly prefer you explain yourself all by yourself without making me guess.

So reading the article is too much work? I mean, you do understand that's how this works, right? You read the article, then comment on said article, here. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.3.5  seeder  Tessylo  replied to  Tacos! @1.3.2    6 years ago

If you can't figure it out, not my problem.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.3.6  seeder  Tessylo  replied to  Tacos! @1.3.2    6 years ago

I honestly don't give a fuck what you prefer

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
1.3.7  Tacos!  replied to  MrFrost @1.3.3    6 years ago
How does it feel.....TT, to support a SOCIALIST president?

You tell me. You voted for Obama, right? And then Hillary?

Trump is expressing his opinion. He isn't taking action. Big difference. YUGE Difference!

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
1.3.8  Tacos!  replied to  Tessylo @1.3.5    6 years ago
If you can't figure it out, not my problem.

I guess you can't explain it then. Not my problem.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.3.9  seeder  Tessylo  replied to  Tacos! @1.3.8    6 years ago

If you cannot comprehend, not my problem.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.3.10  seeder  Tessylo  replied to  Tacos! @1.3.7    6 years ago

He took action when he intervened.  He spoke to the owner or the owners and they acquiesced.   Again, it's none of his business and the players DID NOT MAKE IT HIS BUSINESS.

 
 
 
Ronin2
Professor Quiet
1.3.11  Ronin2  replied to  Tessylo @1.3.10    6 years ago

Fuck the protesting players. If Goodell was any type of commissioner he would have handled it the first time Colin did it with a suspension for "conduct detrimental to the image of the NFL".

All persons associated with the NFL are required to avoid “conduct detrimental to the integrity of and public confidence in the National Football League.” This requirement applies to players, coaches, other team employees, owners, game officials and all others privileged to work in the National Football League.

For many years, it has been well understood that rules promoting lawful, ethical, and responsible conduct serve the interests of the League, its players, and fans. Illegal or irresponsible conduct does more than simply tarnish the offender. It puts innocent people at risk, sullies the reputation of others involved in the game, and undermines public respect and support for the NFL.

STANDARD OF CONDUCT

While criminal activity is clearly outside the scope of permissible conduct, and persons who engage in criminal activity will be subject to discipline, the standard of conduct for persons employed in the NFL is considerably higher. It is not enough simply to avoid being found guilty of a crime. Instead, as an employee of the NFL or a member club, you are held to a higher standard and expected to conduct yourself in a way that is responsible, promotes the values upon which the League is based, and is lawful. Persons who fail to live up to this standard of conduct are guilty of conduct detrimental and subject to discipline, even where the conduct itself does not result in conviction of a crime. Discipline may be imposed in any of the following circumstances:

Conduct that undermines or puts at risk the integrity and reputation of the NFL, NFL clubs, or NFL players.

Unfortunately Goodell has Napoleon complex- an overpaid stuffed shirt that is more concerned about the NFL being PC- than actually respecting all of their fans.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.3.12  seeder  Tessylo  replied to  Ronin2 @1.3.11    6 years ago

Fuck Rump and his faux patriotism and his dog whistles to his supporters and his distractions from his obstruction in the Russian investigations.

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
2  Tacos!    6 years ago

I might have to get a t-shirt or a coffee mug that says "Be Happy, Be Cool." That is great!

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
2.1  seeder  Tessylo  replied to  Tacos! @2    6 years ago

What does that even mean?  Be happy, be cool?  crazy

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
2.1.1  Tacos!  replied to  Tessylo @2.1    6 years ago

Just seems like a nice sentiment. You don't like being happy or cool? Not surprising. The modern Left is only happy when they're outraged about something. We can get you a t-shirt that says "Be Sad. Be Crabby" if you like.

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Expert
2.1.2  MrFrost  replied to  Tessylo @2.1    6 years ago
Be happy, be cool?

Sounds like putting icy-hot on my nuts.... Well, minus the happy part. LOL

 
 
 
lennylynx
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2.1.3  lennylynx  replied to  Tessylo @2.1    6 years ago

Rump is saying it's not cool to protest.  I'm sure most football players are very concerned about looking cool in the eyes of Rump!

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
2.1.4  Tacos!  replied to  lennylynx @2.1.3    6 years ago
Rump is saying it's not cool to protest.

EggsActly! See? Not that complicated.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
2.1.5  seeder  Tessylo  replied to  Tacos! @2.1.4    6 years ago

Obviously your 'president' has a problem with these players exercising their first amendment rights.

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
2.1.6  Tacos!  replied to  Tessylo @2.1.5    6 years ago
Obviously your 'president' has a problem with these players exercising their first amendment rights.

That's "obviously" not true. He has a problem with the way them protesting during the national anthem. You might be ignorant of this, but he has actually invited them to talk with him about the issues that concern them and he has a rather diverse task force addressing those issues.

He has been very clear. I'm surprised you can't understand his message. He has said people should stand respectfully during the national anthem. He never said these players shouldn't exercise their rights.

 
 
 
lennylynx
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2.1.7  lennylynx  replied to  Tacos! @2.1.6    6 years ago

Why would anyone bother talking to that lying piece of shit about anything?

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
2.1.8  seeder  Tessylo  replied to  Tacos! @2.1.4    6 years ago

How isn't it cool to protest?  It's their right.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
2.1.9  seeder  Tessylo  replied to  Tacos! @2.1.6    6 years ago

Nope, it is quite obviously true.  

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
2.1.10  Tacos!  replied to  Tessylo @2.1.8    6 years ago
How isn't it cool to protest? 

Two reasons:

1) The national anthem is being played for some important reasons. a) to honor America b) to honor people who serve in our military c) it's non-political, or at least it should be.

Whatever else is going on in the world, we should all be able to agree that we love America and are grateful for those who sacrifice on our behalf. Protesting during this moment unnecessarily fucks with that sentiment of unity and gratitude. There are so many other ways and times to protest and these assholes have to fuck with the one moment where we should all be able to come together. They're all prima donnas.

2) They are performers and the audience paid for a football game, not a protest. 

An entertainment event is being staged. Tickets and advertising were sold. Several thousand people paid to be there in person to watch a football game. Millions around the world tuned in for the same thing. They all do it to escape the politics and stresses of the rest of the week. We all pay good money and time for this.

But these millionaires want to breach that contract. They want to tell us that we have to pay extra for our show. It's not enough that we pay money or sit through ads, we also have to watch these morons sit, kneel, or raise their fists. And we have no choice apparently. We are a captive audience forced to watch if we want a football game.

Well, it irritates the audience and some are refusing to pay for the show if they have to sit through that garbage as well. (This is a big reason why ratings are also down for the Oscars).

It's their right.

It's actually not their right. They are at work. They have a right to protest in the public square, i.e. streets, sidewalks, public parks. The football stadium is none of those things.

If I went to a restaurant and the waitress wanted to go through some protest routine before bringing me my dinner, she'd probably get fired. Any time people pay for some service or entertainment, if the person paid to deliver starts in on some personal agenda bullshit, you can expect the customer to get mad and just maybe walk out the door.

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
2.1.11  Tacos!  replied to  Tessylo @2.1.9    6 years ago
Nope, it is quite obviously true.

You don't get how making a persuasive argument works, do you.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
2.1.12  seeder  Tessylo  replied to  Tacos! @2.1.10    6 years ago

See AMacs post above.  There is no reason to play the anthem at football games much less any reason to stand for this faux patriotism nonsense

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
2.1.13  seeder  Tessylo  replied to  Tacos! @2.1.11    6 years ago

No you don't 

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
2.1.14  seeder  Tessylo  replied to  Tacos! @2.1.10    6 years ago

Standing for the anthem is meaningless and Rump has no right to claim the players should stand.  It's meaningless and faux patriotism 

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
2.1.15  Tacos!  replied to  Tessylo @2.1.14    6 years ago
Standing for the anthem is meaningless

Denial is not just a river in Egypt.

 
 
 
Phoenyx13
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3  Phoenyx13    6 years ago

i seem to remember numerous complaints when a previous president would "weigh in" on situations... seems the tune has changed since it's Trump... how odd..

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
3.1  Ender  replied to  Phoenyx13 @3    6 years ago

Funny isn't it. Some conservatives want companies to have free reign yet at the same time want to stick their noses in others.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
5  JohnRussell    6 years ago

All of Trump's concerns about the national anthem fall either into the category of him wishing to change the subject from the investigation into himself and his associates or into the category of criticizing blacks for the amusement of his base. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
5.1  seeder  Tessylo  replied to  JohnRussell @5    6 years ago

Yup a distraction and a dog whistle to his supporters 

 
 
 
Skrekk
Sophomore Participates
5.2  Skrekk  replied to  JohnRussell @5    6 years ago

I'm still trying to figure out why Trump and his supporters take such delight in seeing innocent black folks killed by cops.

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
5.2.1  Tacos!  replied to  Skrekk @5.2    6 years ago
I'm still trying to figure out why Trump and his supporters take such delight in seeing innocent black folks killed by cops.

Please cite the people who are "delighted" that someone of any color who was "innocent" was killed by a cop.

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
Professor Guide
6  Thrawn 31    6 years ago

Seriously, why does Trump care so much? I seriously don't give a shit what people during the anthem, it has no impact on my life. I am just wondering if there isn't something more productive a president could be doing than bitching about what people do during a song to which he doesn't even know the words. 

 
 
 
Skrekk
Sophomore Participates
6.1  Skrekk  replied to  Thrawn 31 @6    6 years ago
Seriously, why does Trump care so much?

A) He's a racist moron who doesn't see any problem when cops kill innocent black folks.

B) He uses things like this to draw attention to himself while distracting from his very substantial problems.

C) He knows that his base is very easily manipulated by racism and nationalism.

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
6.2  Tacos!  replied to  Thrawn 31 @6    6 years ago
Seriously, why does Trump care so much?

He's really patriotic. I don't think it's any more complicated than that. Remember he's also got people working on a military parade no one asked for. The whole thing gives him a thrill. There's nothing wrong with that. He's a fan of the U.S.

I seriously don't give a shit what people during the anthem, it has no impact on my life.

And that's your choice and you're entitled to it, just like he is.

I am just wondering if there isn't something more productive a president could be doing than bitching about what people do during a song to which he doesn't even know the words. 

Absolutely. But he's not the first president who has his personal priorities that others don't agree with and he won't be the last. Also, even Trump can walk and chew bubble gum at the same time, at least for a little bit.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
7  seeder  Tessylo    6 years ago

Really patriotic?  That's some serious bullshit there.  A parade no one asked for?  More bullshit. Rump is the one who asked for the parade.  A fan of the U.S.?  He's in debt up to his ridiculous combover to the Russians.   Digging a whole

Again, just a distraction from the Russian obstruction investigation

 
 

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