This is what denial following neglect looks like: Mr Pres in the real world people died on your watch. YOUR LACK OF RESPECT IS APPALLING!
Trump pushes conspiracy theory denying Puerto Rico hurricane death toll
Trump pushes conspiracy theory denying Puerto Rico hurricane death toll
Christopher Wilson 1 hour 11 minutes ago
Photo illustration: Yahoo News; photos: Leah Millis/Reuters, Gerald Herbert/AP
President Trump advanced a new conspiracy theory on Thursday morning: blaming Democrats, without evidence, for the staggering death toll from Hurricane Maria , which slammed into Puerto Rico one year ago.
“3000 people did not die in the two hurricanes that hit Puerto Rico,” Trump tweeted . “When I left the Island, AFTER the storm had hit, they had anywhere from 6 to 18 deaths. As time went by it did not go up by much. Then, a long time later, they started to report really large numbers, like 3000.”
The president added : “This was done by the Democrats in order to make me look as bad as possible when I was successfully raising Billions of Dollars to help rebuild Puerto Rico. If a person died for any reason, like old age, just add them onto the list. Bad politics. I love Puerto Rico!”
The official Hurricane Maria death toll per the Puerto Rican government is 2,975 , revised up in August from the initial 64. That number , calculated by researchers with the Milken Institute School of Public Health at George Washington University, is lower than a Harvard study released in May, which put the number at 4,645. Either number would make Maria, which hit last September, the deadliest natural disaster in the United States in over a century.
Trump’s declaration that few people had died when he left the island is false. There were contemporaneous reports from the ground that funeral homes were overcrowded and further reporting months later that people were still dying due to the slow response . Earlier this week, Sen. Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass., released a letter from the FEMA director stating that more than 2,000 Puerto Ricans applied for funeral assistance in the wake of the hurricane. The agency approved just 75.
Trump has denied any responsibility for the slow response to the island’s difficulties and the death of hundreds if not thousands of Americans, blaming Puerto Rico’s electrical grid. He initially said it was not a “real catastrophe” like Hurricane Katrina and urged Puerto Ricans not to believe the stories they were hearing . The federal response to the storm has been criticized, particularly in contrast to the relief effort in Texas following Hurricane Harvey .
The president’s conspiratorial tweets about the death toll from Maria came as Hurricane Florence was bearing down on the southeastern coast of the United States.
During a briefing on Florence at the White House earlier this week , Trump said the Puerto Rican response was “incredibly successful” and “one of the best jobs that’s ever been done.” He has cited the difficulty of moving things to an island that is 1,150 miles from the coast of Florida.
Carmen Yulín Cruz, mayor of San Juan, Puerto Rico, was one of many critics of Trump’s death toll theory:
This iframe is not allowed
What a lying sack of shit.
Why denigrate sacks of shit?
Yes even sacks of shit, such as manure, serve a purpose.
Hey AMac, you should check out ItIsMe's seed about the debunked fraud in Puerto Rico.
Will Do.
Knock him out with your facts and the truth.
You'll get nothing but the ItIsMe sidestep.
Because they're sacks of shit. Isn't that what they deserve?
Is that a new dance the young uns are doing these days?
I've never been so happy as in the past few weeks since Nov. 2016. And increasing almost by the day. Your diagnostic skills need adjusting.*
* by which I mean, chucking onto the burnpile.
I was referring to actual sacks of fecal matter … why denigrate them by lowering them to Trump level.
My bad for not better explaining myself.
I don't know TG, I can't keep up with those little whippersnappers any more hon.
I have a feeling that a few of those 3000 people may have died anyway, but the 16 figure trump touted always seemed ridiculous given the devastation and lack of response.
It is impossible to have any sympathy for Trump because he is such an asshole. You made your bed, now lie in it.
Trump lies in a bed
of Bunk,
A bed of flowers,
A bed of Pasta.
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How these supporters can still find rationale to remain supportive of such a shallow shell of a true leader,
is what is the only thing more disturbing, than the "man", itself.
He is The GREAT WHITE HOPE! The "validator" of self-afflicted white-resentment … Trump hates the same people his base hates; they will look the other way on all Trump's crimes and indiscretions as long as he champions their ignorant view of reality.
He lies anytime he opens his mouth.
They tried to factor that info in when they came up with the roughly 3000 number. But you are correct, the number is fluid and could go either way by a small percentage.
2975 is the "excess death" count compared to the number of deaths in the same period in an average year. It's the same methodology used to determine the actual number of deaths due to war in conflict zones like Iraq where bodies are usually buried without an autopsy or a formal determination of cause of death. So it's not an exact number but it encompasses the numerous direct and indirect causes of death due to the disaster.
Perhaps these people died on purpose just to make Trump look bad.
Death by hurricane is natural causes to trump.
Only a heartless, self-serving-ego-maniacal-narcissistic-piece-of-excrement BLAMES THE VICTIMS OF TRAGEDY in order to cover his culpable fat ass and heap untruthful praise upon himself.
So far, the ordinarily effete Paul Ryan and the oft-apologist Orrin Hatch, have, each in their own way, called "bullshit!" on Trump's disgraceful display!
Incarceration of children -- intentional misfeasance leading to thousands of deaths in Puerto Rico … TWO COUNTS OF "CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY"!
Would you believe I am actually speechless over this latest bullshit by Fearfull Leader?
Apparently black and brown lives don't count for much in the mind of our Glorious Leader, particularly since those deaths are really due to his utter incompetence and lack of concern.
But at least he tossed a few rolls of paper towels at Puerto Ricans, right?
And told them to have a good time
He really is a sociopath, isn't he? No empathy whatsoever for other people.
And totally batshit crazy. The only person he cares about is himself
Well what gets me is that at some point the band wagon of trump folks will hit this seed. And of course suggest we all are the ones who are wrong and so on and so forth.
And every seed i seem them show up at i always ask my self -- do any of these trump supporters here at NT have daughters. Because i always take what he does and run it through my "boyfriend test". Meaning if one of my 3 girls showed up with this trump guy would he pass my test, of course not.
He lies, he tells half truths , he has a morality problem and a lack of abilty to acknowledge when he is wrong and surely based on ms daniels would most likey cheat on my daughter and break her heart and i cant have that.
and then he spouts off about the number not being correct. Well if my memory serves me correct, this would be the second time in as many months were Paul Ryan has stated on record that trumps claim is not correct and that he is confident of the source that produced the total amount that died in Puerto Rico.
But what gets me the most is his need to go back to OLD SHIT as if the NEW SHIT in front of him doesnt matter enough to address. Ahhhhhh Florence will also be a killer but lets not address that ooooh no lets talk about the other storm.
just a very sad man and whats worst is the ones who follow this guy like puppy dogs, that to me is truly embarrassing. Not because they dont have the right to feel or support him but that they dont seem to recognize that he only wants the ones who cant think for themselves. sad times we are in for sure.
I'm not stating that anyone is "wrong" here, but the death toll in Puerto Rico has fluctuated from 64, even several months after Maria, to around 4000 today. Both of these numbers, and the many in between this time frame, come from the Puerto Rican government. Why such a huge difference?
I have read that the methodology of how the 4000 came is a bit disingenuous, and there were probably hundreds, if not thousands, of deaths not directly attributed to hurricanes, but those that were of old age, in some sort of health problem, or other natural deaths that were mixed into this 4000 number.
I also think it is no coincidence that these numbers came out right at the eve of Florence about to hit the east coast. The media has done everything they could, with a little help from Trump himself, to paint him in a bad light.
Now is not the time to making unfortunate deaths a political ploy.
I also think it is no coincidence that these numbers came out right at the eve of Florence about to hit the east coast."
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This total came out over a month ago or so.
Trump is the one who put it front and center yesterday.
try again,
but Y ?
lets clear something up -- paul ryan said " i have no reason to dispute the findings of the study conducted".
Do you know what that means.....................it means he understands that the US government with trump as the leader dropped the ball by not having his FEMA group ready to deploy and respond in a reasonable amount of time. and have assets on the ground that could CORRECTLY IDENTIFY the major issues that was a result of that storm.
So he understands that a person of the people he knew that people died and some were unaccountable and any government response was not to determine who died but how to help those who didnt.
and over the course of time complications that were identified (no electric for months) no fresh water(working pumps) no airport support and other factors - would impact the ability for anyone to survive this life threatening situation.
so again, the fact that the government was not ready and sure didn't respond any better then it did to the Katrina situation puts the ABILITY OF THIS PRESIDENT to suggest anything less, is irresponsible and arrogant.
By the way this is political because at no time since this issue was raised to a national debate, has trump made an attempt to suggest how HE SHOULD have responded and thus changing the conversation on what should have been done to prevent ANY DEATHS.
but his lack of tact and need to tweet is why this STAYS A POLITICAL issue.
where can one find the methodology used? I am curious to read about it.
True, but it is very difficult to pinpoint direct effects of the storm when the infrastructure, especially the electrical grid, was bankrupt and ready to give out anyway. The storms just added to the major problems PR had long before the storms.
BTW, the governor of Puerto Rico made several statements that the federal government reacted exactly the way it should have and was ready to help before and after the storms hit.
The fact that PR is an island, and the damage sustained to ports and airports, did not make things easy when delivering relief goods.
Speaking of relief goods, I wonder if you think that the millions of bottles of water sitting on a tarmac, delivered to the PR government, and not delivered to the people of PR, is Trump's fault?
True, but the President does have a right to defend himself from what may be yet another media/liberal/political lie.
If the numbers are right, he needs to STFU.
well sadly the governors statement was not yesterday or today, unlike the tweet storm,
making excuses for old this or that grid doesn't change HOW this group of citizens was dealt with. And in the end, the president YES is to blame because a leader asks the questions and gets the answers needed to make a tarmac full of water to disappear.
You realize that it's trumps own staff that verified the numbers, right?
Where are you getting 4,000 from? All the reporting I've seen and the actual report done said 2,975 so just under 3,000 deaths attributed to the hurricane. I think the initial number of confirmed deaths directly from the hurricane was just under 100 but the resulting deaths from lack of clean water, power and medicine, the slow response from the federal government, and trouble with the logistics of getting the power, water and sewers working again led to another 2900 deaths over the last year. These were preventable deaths, and we'll never know exactly how many can legitimately be laid at the feet of this inept administration, but the fact is one is too many. The right wing seemingly lost their minds when 4 Americans died in Benghazi and they desperately tried to blame Hillary Clinton. Are we going to have the 8 investigations they had of Hillary looking into the Trump administrations response that likely led to nearly 3,000 Americans deaths? Of course not, Republicans aren't trying to find truth, they're trying to monopolize partisanship and weaponize other peoples suffering to attack their opponents.
Even if the water was delivered to the local government? The water was no longer in federal hands, so the President was no longer responsible.
Is the President responsible if your local trash pickup did not happen on your scheduled day? By your logic he is.
if not getting that trash picked up results in deaths of 100's of people....yea its his responsibility to ensure it gets done.
Nice try....trash pickup is a local issue, just like water delivered to a local government gets distributed to its population.
Relying on the federal government gets you nowhere.
calling bullshit..unless you can provide a link that tells us exactly where the water came from - we can assume the federal government in the administrative role was aware of the water. and either they help with the screw up of the distribution or they did not CREATE the ability for it to be distributed properly. so yes this is the presidents fault. And fema and any other bureaucracy that failed to figure out a way to get this water out to the people.
no but what he could be responsible for is not helping them keep cost down via his stupid tariff crap if the company passes on the cost it takes to get the type of trash trucks it used be able to purchase and had to change them.
lets not play games here. he was the man in charge and dropped the ball. sadly like most folks who make excuses for trump, i am more appalled at how those type seem to keep disregarding that these are OUR OWN CITIZENS.!!
I was wondering too where the 4,000 came from.
My apologies to the 4000 number. I do understand it is closer to 3000.
Facts remains, however, is that the media and their liberal counterparts are trying to make it look like the 3000 is a direct result of the hurricanes, when the vast majority could have come from other sources, such as the ones I described and you also noted.
The federal government may have a large part in this, but the PR government also needs to take blame for their failures. The infrastructure of PR was on its last leg long before the hurricanes, and millions of dollars in relief goods were never delivered to the population after is was handed over to them.
The vast majority did not come from other sources.
So how many deaths are you willing to accept were a direct result from the federal governments slow response? 1? 2? 4? 400? 2400? As I point out, all it took was 4 American deaths for the right wing to lose their minds over Benghazi, where is the outrage here? I guess it's not that an administration or State Department may of mishandled things that led to 4 Americans deaths causing the need for 8 partisan investigations, it was that it was a Democrat administration and State department that made it important. Now we have the possibility that a feckless governments response likely led to well over 2,000 Americans deaths but because the ones in charge were Republican, no investigations are necessary. Republicans have taken hypocrisy to whole new heights.
Yet homes are stupidly built in flood plains on Houston, get rebuilt or the electrical grid in the Florida keys gets obliterated, gets FIXED. Both get funding from the US government almost immediately.
More importantly, the initial EMERGENCY response for Texas was immediate. As an example, US Northern Command had 73 helicopters in Houston within 3 days.
Not so with Puerto Rico, where 1 million were ALREADY without power after Irma. It took 3 WEEKS for 70 helicopters to arrive and where they were MUCH more necessary for delivering EMERGENCY provisions to mountain communities cut off because of bridge and levee damage on top of downed trees. Contractors dumped provisions on the dock but truck drivers couldn't deliver provisions because the roads were impassable, they NEEDED helicopters.
It's not like FEMA just realized that Puerto Rico was a mountainous island the day AFTER Maria. If FEMA was REALLY prepared for Puerto Rico, they would have packed provisions in helicopter sized load with a mix of MRIs, water, meds, batteries, a small generator and diesel. Roll each load out, hook it up to a helo and drop it into communities all over the island. THEN load 'at risk' citizens for the flight back to town and a hospital, or later to the Comfort.
BTW, after Irma, the Comfort should have been loaded and ready to rock BEFORE Maria and SHOULD have been @ sea ready to sail into Puerto Rico after Maria. Instead it took 3 weeks.
FEMA reassessed and amended their 'major disaster declaration' 10 days after Harvey, they didn't do so for Puerto Rico for 43 days.
No, they didn't. The media explained that the majority of deaths came after the hurricane because of lack of water, food, and medicine. If you didn't get that from the news reports and the media I can't help you
Houston isn't a state. And when the power goes off in Houston it doesn't affect me.
I think you meant Florida, not Houston...
Yet BOTH grids are privately owned are they not?
Again, so fucking what? If a D- rated bridge in MO gets wiped out by a tornado, do we rebuild it or say that is sucked before the storm so it's their fault that it failed?
Yet there are still millions of acres in the flood plain and which get flooded on a regular basis. It only going to get worse.
IMHO, if you buy land to build in a flood plain, you shouldn't expect to be compensated for your losses. Houston let that shit get built by design. It was stupid and they shouldn't rebuild that shit. City designers should get their shit together and figure out how to get the water OUT of the city or keep it from coming in, PICK ONE. Then they need to change building codes AND were they permit building in the first place.
It's NOT like we don't KNOW where flooding will occur. In fact FEMA has a handy dandy tool for just that...
Every subsequent estimate after that absure 64 number has shown an increase. This study was the first systematic and carefully conducted epidemiologic study. The authors even admit that their estimate of 4,645 is probably low:
In other words a massive failure of response and recovery. This seems to be recurrent theme when Republicans are "in charge."
Only the federal government insures floods.
As to earthquake fault lines, One CAN'T build on one. One of my friends owns a big ranch in Hollister, CA and the San Andreas fault runs right through it. Every day they take a front loader out and regrade the road over the fault. I lived in the Bay Area during the 1989 quake. We were 50 miles from the epicenter and still had extensive damage to our home. It moved my king size waterbed a foot off of the wall.
See # 2.3 for a summary. It's the same "excess death" methodology which is widely used by epidemiologists who study conflict zones and other disasters. Here's a link to the GWU study and a link to an explanation:
Here's a similar analysis which shows 1,085 excess deaths for just the Sept-Oct 2017 period (vs the 6 month period used by GWU). Note that the real experts in the methodology are at GWU.
From the NEJM article itself :
Statistics was a subject I never could get a handle on but maybe this makes sense to you.
They don't care, XD. All they know is that they were told that Puerto Rico did not receive relief supplies, and they blame Trump, even though it has been proven that all relief that was requested was delivered to the PR government.
To them, the PR government holds zero responsibility.
FYI, that's the Harvard study not the GWU study. Harvard used a different time range and different statistical analysis which results in a much broader range of excess deaths (and I think didn't account for subsequent migration from the island).
The GWU study is where the 2975 figure comes from, and they're the real experts in the field:
Thanks for the explanation, but it is kinda sad the PR government had to use statistics to get a death toll instead of using actual reported deaths directly and indirectly related to hurricanes.
I'm curious how many of those "indirect casualties" were actually because of the hurricanes, or they simply died for natural reasons during the time period.
Most homes in Houston were modern with quick access to rebuilding whereas PR had neither immediately on hand.
Same with electrical grids.....The PR grid was ancient to begin with, so when it was blasted, there was no repair as we would describe repair, but basically had to be rebuilt from the ground up all over the island.
The rest I am not completely familiar but I can see why it took so long to get goods there. PR is an island with many remote areas where the infrastructure (all types) were destroyed and much relief had to wait until minimal repairs were made to get goods in.
That comment demonstrates a real lack of awareness of the issues, everything from how deaths are reported to how people actually die as the result of disasters. Sounds like you need to read the study summary to learn something about it. Here's a link:
But those "natural cause" deaths often had to do with the lack of access to medical care, especially emergency care, due to the very poor recovery measures. Roads, communications, power and other basic infrastructure needs still haven't been restored to much of the island. At that is a scandal both for the federal and territorial response to this disaster.
Does Stossel own those homes in the Hamptons? If he does he's a major hypocrite...which I've always suspected
I have made that observation before. However, we really don't know if all of those deaths were truly direct or indirect causes from the hurricanes. Could be the PR government lumped in those that simply died because they were elderly and they just happened to die during the time frame of the study.
People die every day from things other than hurricanes....even in PR.
My point about the homes in Houston is that they are in KNOWN flood plains, yet they are being rebuilt ANYWAY, many with FEMA grants. Every couple of years, rinse and repeat...
Think tornado alley. MO, AR, OK and NE would have to be empty.
Check out that New Madrid quake zone.
Those 2 alone eliminate the majority of the breadbasket of the country.
No, this not a media/political/liberal lie FFS. It's the cold hard truth
Thanks but no thanks for the rumpsplanation
Tell me you are not serious. PR's infrastructure was totally destroyed. Exactly how were the suffering masses supposed to get the supplies they needed...by osfreakingmosis? The United States failed to take care of their own, and your boy Trump was in the driver's seat. The neglect in and of itself was heinous enough. But for Trump to dispute the death total and turn the travesty into a partisan issue pretty much makes him the biggest dick on the planet. Again. But you go ahead and continue your genuflecting if it makes you feel better. Trump deserves a punch in the face, not adulation.
Can I borrow that?
HATED Statistics, I actually had to take that class 3 ties before i passed it...Ironic though, my career path out of college led me to become a Six Sigma Black Belt for some time where statisticaly sound data collection and analysis of that, data is an everyday event....The world is very humorous.
Looks to me like their methodology is sound and they took all precautions to get a good unbiased sample size. population size of 3,000 is a pretty good number to get a reliable data set from. The question is, how did they analyze that data, they must have been able to show there was a statistically significant relation between the hurricane and the deaths.
hey you might have missed something........the government of Puerto Rico and the Governor and there national guard were on the Island at the time of the Hurricane ----so if nothing works---then ............................................................................................................................................................ding ding ding, its the people arriving to assist that should have brought things that would help.
That means heavy duty equipment and labor trucks and so on.
WHY ?
Because everything was touched by the storm----do you get it YET....................................thats why trump and fema and any other NON BASED ISLAND agency failed.
He missed nothing. It doesn't matter what Rump does or doesn't do, they always support the scumlappingshitbag.
In the delusional world of Trump his statement is true...Screw the evidence...It's fake news...
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Many studies addressed a real concern that the Puerto Rican government lacked the competence to do an accurate death count, but much of the media hype around the results was clearly motivated by the attempt to damage the Trump administration.
The Washington Post noted just some of the studies as of June 2018 (original links):
The Post noted that the new estimates hovered around the 1,000 mark.
Then, in June, a Harvard study published in the N ew England Journal of Medicine estimated the number of deaths from Hurricane Maria at 4,645 instead of the official figure of 64. The researchers had conducted a survey and extrapolated the results — an extremely sloppy methodology.
Even the Post was skeptical of the absurdly high estimate: “This is not a verified number, unlike body counts in wars. The Harvard study offers only an estimate – a midpoint along a broad range of possibilities. It is not based on death records, only estimates of deaths from people who were interviewed in a survey.”
Now.....commence with your favorite emoji...or..."but, but, but...the source". We already know it's coming.
To be fair, if Breitbart is prohibited here from being used as the source of a seed, why would you post a link to it? {SP}
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Disregard the height, width, etc part of the post. It is a box I cannot delete
I put the cursor at the right lower corner and backspaced {SP} it disappeared...
No worries, I have had the same problem.
Thanks I did not know that. I also did not know that Breitbart is not allowed as a seed. If it links to other sources that have relevant info and they are allowed, then Breitbart should be allowed to be linked for that info.
Pretty funny that you are trying to pass off brietbart as something factual. I knew it wouldn't be long before a link or seed showed up to spin this so it makes trump look like he is right.
TRUMP LIED, AGAIN. DEAL WITH IT.
All this is just another lame attempt at trump trying to defend his ego. No normal person sees his response in Puerto Rico as, "good". It was and is an EPIC failure.
Pretty funny that you did exactly what I said you guys would do in the very last sentence of the post you responded to. Let me recap...
"Now.....commence with your favorite emoji...or..."but, but, but...the source". We already know it's coming." .
All this is just another lame attempt at trump trying to defend his ego.
[deleted] I specifically STATED that Trump himself is part of the problem as to why the media is piling on him.
Breitbart doesn't even try to pretend that it's nothing but a pukefunnel for rightwing lies and propaganda. The only reason I can think for anyone using it is to play that "but...but....the source" gambit to try to pretend it's just like, say, the New England Journal of Medicine.
Many people think the same as Salon, NYT, HuffPo, or Washington Post and left wink puke.
What's your point?
Hmmmm......that would indicate that lefties are much smarter and far less gullible than righties. No wonder Trump loves the uneducated and ran as a Republican.
Breitfart?
What a surprise, NOT.
I see you chose "all of the above"
From #7
Now.....commence with your favorite emoji...or..."but, but, but...the source". We already know it's coming.
You are too easy.
Of course, you also chose to ignore the direct links to other sources, such as the NYT and WaPo. Are they now far right wing rags? By your "logic", they are
It's really funny and enjoyable to see you now defending the "lying" NYTimes and WaPo. If that doesn't reek of desperation then I don't know what would. It's almost like you think we can't see you.
Where did I say I was defending them? It is well known that very few sources that lean far left are to be believed on here, so I figured I would throw a couple of them out there for you.
Yeah, the Harvard School of Epidemiology is well known for its "sloppy methodology" and the New England Journal of Medicine also famous for publishing fake medical articles (/sssssss). What is it about the rightwing that it cannot even grasp the slightest difference between what several previous estimates of the deaths, one of which was obviously absurdly low at 64, and a systematic study? I know Shitbag and his never-facts supporters. Scumbag's joke of a FEMA response was certainly not going to even try to do a count much less an accurate one. He was happy to go with that laughable number of 64 that the massively inept and corrupt and self-serving territorial government came up with. But just like every lie that trumpsters defend to the max, the truth always emerges--sometimes right away and sometimes it takes longer.
To be fair, since Breitbart IS a prohibited source here, why is it allowed to be posted as a link?
Once again, trump lies his ass off. How socking... It wont be long before 'someone' seeds an article defending trump and spins some wild conspiracy theory about how trump is right.
And once again, trump blames the dems. Republican president, SCOTUS, Congress...."it's the dems fault". What a f*cking moron.
Transcript - Rep. Luis Gutierrez on MSNBC Chris Hayes show (video at link)
GUTIERREZ: "It might be, although I’m sure that there are others that will compete. One of his just biggest fabrications and lies. How do you celebrate and declare a success when officially now the deaths are over 3,000? And, you know, Chris, that’s the latest study. One accepted by the government of Puerto Rico that never wanted to change the numbers and was complicit with this president in trying to hide the real calamity and deaths and the lack of action of the American government. But let me say this. The Harvard study said it was over 4,000. And, Chris, I was there within ten days. I was there within ten days, not because the government allowed me to go facilitate it, because Donald Trump did everything he could to stop any oversight, over the conduct of the American government, and what it was doing to facilitate. I think the mayor of San Juan was absolutely correct, you let people die. And, you know, if you think a success is having the deaths of people on your hands, let me — because I think it’s important to put it into context, Chris. He said two things. He said, well, you know, the people of Puerto Rico would be better off, but they want us to do everything for them. So he called us lazy. And then he said, wow, you’re busting my budget. He called us worthless, or not — of sufficient government. This is a president of the United States with a catastrophic situation in Puerto Rico unprecedented in Puerto Rico with thousands of people dying and saying how expensive and how lazy we are. The only one who was lazy was you, Mr. President. You were lazy, and you weren’t on duty and people died because of it."
Guiterrez is nothing more than a showboat with no substance, and only wants to get his face in tv.....no different than Harris and Booker
You seem to be indicating that is a bad thing even though it describes Trump in a nutshell.
Florida lawmakers are publicly disagreeing with President Trump's claim that the death toll in Puerto Rico after Hurricane Maria is not accurate.
Why it matters: With just 2 months before the election — and with an estimated 50,000–75,000 Puerto Ricans who may have permanently settled in Florida since the hurricane — they know they can't stay silent on an issue that affects a significant portion of Florida's electorate.
The big picture: Republicans Rick Scott and Ron DeSantis have never openly disagreed with Trump before. In fact, they've benefitted from his endorsements, and DeSantis even released an entire ad mirroring himself after Trump.
Battle lines: Gov. Rick Scott, who's running for Senate, tweeted : "I disagree with @POTUS– an independent study said thousands were lost and Gov. Rosselló agreed. I've been to Puerto Rico 7 times & saw devastation firsthand. The loss of any life is tragic."
Conservative Washington Post columnist Jennifer Rubin said tonight that President Trump should resign.
Has trump offered any proof at all of his claims? Newp, and as usual, most of his base buys it as absolute fact. Next thing we know we will have some other idiot saying Sandy Hook was a hoax.... Oh wait.
"I love dumb people!"
And Rump loves himself more than anyone and anything so . . . .