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Yes, The Deep State Is Real — And Working To Undermine Our Nation

  

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Via:  xxjefferson51  •  6 years ago  •  29 comments

Yes, The Deep State Is Real — And Working To Undermine Our Nation
For those who doubt the existence of the so-called Deep State, recent unsettling news provides more than ample proof it exists. Indeed, not only does the Deep State exist, it's far more dangerous to Americans' liberties than first thought.

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Deep State: For those who doubt the existence of the so-called Deep State, recent unsettling news provides more than ample proof it exists. Indeed, not only does the Deep State exist, it's far more dangerous to Americans' liberties than first thought.

President Trump earlier this week said that he would release a trove of documents related to the Russia investigation and declassify their contents. Included are 21 pages taken from a June 2017 Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) application used to spy on former Trump aide Carter Page.

Along with those pages, Trump also seeks release of unredacted FBI notes made during interviews conducted for the FISA application, along with text messages related to Russia and notes from FBI interviews with Bruce Ohr, the No. 4 official in the Justice Department.

Why is that key? Ohr had close ties to former British spy Christopher Steele, who authored the so-called Trump dossier for Fusion GPS. Steele, whose work was funded by the Hillary Clinton campaign and by the Clinton-controlled Democratic National Committee, served as an informant to the FBI until he was let go for leaking to the media. But Ohr's wife, Nellie, continued to work for Fusion GPS, a fact that Bruce Ohr didn't reveal on his mandatory federal disclosure filings.

Trump also wants text messages from disgraced former FBI officials James Comey, Andrew McCabe, Peter Strzok and Lisa Page.

House Republican Ire


In doing all this, Trump isn't acting alone. He's been prodded by a group of House Republicans, led by House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes, R-Calif. Nunes says the documents will show that, in order to spy on the Trump campaign, there was FBI abuse of the FISA application process.

Given the seriousness of these charges, and the fact that Democrats in Congress have leaked like a sieve to their favorite lefty media stars, you'd think they'd be willing, eager even, to release as much information as possible. After all, they're the ones who allege Trump "colluded" with the Russians.

But you'd be wrong. In fact, Reps. Nancy Pelosi and Adam Schiff and Sens. Chuck Schumer and Mark Warner hit the panic button, sending a letter Tuesday to Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, FBI Director Christopher Wray and National Intelligence Director Dan Coats expressing " profound alarm " at the documents' release and calling it a "brazen abuse of power."

Given their routine and incredibly casual treatment of past actual secrets, it's hard to take the Democrats seriously at all when they express concern about classified information being made public.

Sabotaging Trump


No, what they're really worried about is that Nunes is right. There are highly questionable connections between officials in the Justice Department, FBI, CIA and Hillary Clinton campaign. They suggest that U.S. officials actively used their offices and taxpayer funds to sabotage Donald Trump's 2016 presidential campaign. If so, it's a criminal conspiracy. People should go to prison.

Yet, shockingly, while Trump ordered the "immediate declassification" of the materials, the Deep State has other ideas. Justice, the FBI and the National Intelligence director's office are slow-walking the release . They plan to redact the documents, despite Trump's lawful order.

That's the Deep State in action.

But that's not all. James O'Keefe's Project Veritas has released a secretly shot video of a leftist Department of Justice employee admitting that "she does research on the home addresses and license plates of private individuals who are then targeted for loud protests at their homes by socialist demonstrators." The employee, Allison Hrabar, was one of the people who disrupted a private dinner by Department of Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen while she ate in a Washington, D.C. restaurant.

Hrabar reportedly used a Justice Department LexisNexis account for her research, and others apparently do too. So taxpayers are helping to fund their anti-American, pro-socialist demonstrations.

That wasn't all, however. In yet another video, a State Department employee named Stuart Karaffa, a member of the Metro DC Democratic Socialists of America, talked about engaging in his far-left politics while working as a bureaucrat-diplomat .

In the video, Trump-hater Karaffa vows to "resist everything ... every level. F#@k sh#t up!" Now that's diplomacy! Who hires these people?

Deep State 'Resistance'


Karaffa gloats about committing his crimes. And, yes, both Karaffa's and Hrabar's actions are clear violations of the federal Hatch Act. "I have nothing to lose. It's impossible to fire federal employees," he said.

He's right. No one can fire him. And there are likely dozens, if not hundreds , just like Karaffa and Hrabar — as we've seen from looking at the damning FBI and Justice Department texts sent back and forth by high-level officials at those two agencies. They embed themselves in the bureaucracies, becoming a Deep State that undermines the democratic will of the people and subverts a duly elected U.S. president to enact their own agenda.

We hope Americans will support further release of information about the 18-month-long investigation into supposed Trump-Russia collusion.

Despite all the time and millions spent, there isn't a shred of evidence for collusion between Trump and the Russians. But there are boatloads of evidence suggesting "collusion" by Hillary Clinton with the Russians, the FBI, the CIA, the Justice Department and the State Department.

Trump called the whole Russia investigation a "hoax" and said exposing it would be one of his "crowning achievements" as president. But it won't be enough merely to expose it. Once exposed, we should punish those who participated in the collusion conspiracy as far as the law will allow. After all, it's your democracy they're destroying.


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XXJefferson51
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1  seeder  XXJefferson51    6 years ago

“Despite all the time and millions spent, there isn't a shred of evidence for collusion between Trump and the Russians. But there are boatloads of evidence suggesting "collusion" by Hillary Clinton with the Russians, the FBI, the CIA, the Justice Department and the State Department.

Trump called the whole Russia investigation a "hoax" and said exposing it would be one of his "crowning achievements" as president. But it won't be enough merely to expose it. Once exposed, we should punish those who participated in the collusion conspiracy as far as the law will allow.”

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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1.1  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  XXJefferson51 @1    6 years ago

It is obvious that the deep state is a clear and present danger to our Republic.  It is obvious now that there was never any collusion between Trump and the Russians and that there was much collusion between Obama, Hillary, and the Russians.  The deep state is embedded to protect the latter two while trying for a soft coup against Trump.  

 
 
 
bbl-1
Professor Quiet
2  bbl-1    6 years ago

True.  The Russian Federation, under the direction of The Putin Oligarchy, has definitely infiltrated America's democracy.  Very sad that Putin has so many witting and unwitting allies dwelling on these shores.  The 'deep state' is more real than one can imagine.

"We have met the enemy and he is us."  Pogo.  Except in the modern era those words are more apt for the traitorous American right wing.  Thanks, Hannity and your bosom buddy Gorka.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.1  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  bbl-1 @2    6 years ago

Stop spamming my seeds with off topic Russia references. No one who is a member here has anything at all to do with Putin or Russia. 

 
 
 
Skrekk
Sophomore Participates
2.1.1  Skrekk  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.1    6 years ago

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bbl-1
Professor Quiet
2.1.2  bbl-1  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.1    6 years ago

Sorry.  The 'deep state' is not the American government.  Dirty/traitorous wealth, American Quislings and the infiltration of autocratic foreign powers into our nation's democracy is the true 'deep state.' 

Do not protect those who will destroy our republic.  The Russians are here.  That is not off topic---it is fact.

 
 
 
The Magic 8 Ball
Masters Quiet
3  The Magic 8 Ball    6 years ago

yepp,  but all they are really accomplishing is their own demise.

it is almost time to insert military grade boots so deep in their asses it will require surgery to remove them.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
3.1  Tessylo  replied to  The Magic 8 Ball @3    6 years ago
yepp,  but all they are really accomplishing is their own demise. it is almost time to insert military grade boots so deep in their asses it will require surgery to remove them.

Well said regarding the 'right', the gop, and Rump supporters.  

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
4  JohnRussell    6 years ago

Gaslighting

Gaslighting or gas-lighting is a form of mental abuse in which information is twisted or spun, selectively omitted to favor the abuser, or false information is presented with the intent of making victims doubt their own memory, perception, and sanity.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaslighting
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In the current context, trump and his enablers and sycophants are trying to gaslight the nation, with nonsense, hyperbole and disinformation. And while it is a serious situation for the country, and it does work on some of the more gullible, the majority is not biting. 
Your particular problem is that you aren't very good at it. 
 
 
 
The Magic 8 Ball
Masters Quiet
4.1  The Magic 8 Ball  replied to  JohnRussell @4    6 years ago

gaslight someone else john... the left has ZERO credibility.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
4.1.1  JohnRussell  replied to  The Magic 8 Ball @4.1    6 years ago

Go find some more Anderson Cooper "fake news" on the alt right quack sites you get your information from. We need some laughs at the right's expense. 

 
 
 
The Magic 8 Ball
Masters Quiet
4.1.2  The Magic 8 Ball  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.1    6 years ago
We need some laughs at the right's expense.

laugh all ya like while ya still can.

 
 
 
The Magic 8 Ball
Masters Quiet
4.1.3  The Magic 8 Ball  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.1    6 years ago
Go find some more Anderson Cooper "fake news"

512

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
4.1.4  JohnRussell  replied to  The Magic 8 Ball @4.1.3    6 years ago

You should probably watch the video I posted on two other seeds and stop embarrassing yourself. 

 
 
 
KDMichigan
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4.1.5  KDMichigan  replied to  The Magic 8 Ball @4.1.3    6 years ago

Yeah Butt that guy is probably standing on a bench. jrSmiley_10_smiley_image.gif

Notice at the cattails next to Anderson "FAKE NEWS" Cooper.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
4.1.6  Tessylo  replied to  The Magic 8 Ball @4.1    6 years ago
gaslight someone else john... the left has ZERO credibility.

gaslight someone else Magic Eight Ball . . . the 'right' has ZERO, ZIP, ZILCH, NADA, DIDDLY SQUAT credibility.  

 
 
 
The Magic 8 Ball
Masters Quiet
4.1.7  The Magic 8 Ball  replied to  KDMichigan @4.1.5    6 years ago
Yeah Butt that guy is probably standing on a bench.

nah... anderson cooper is only 3ft tall.  (not much taller than the average doorknob)

cheers :)

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
PhD Quiet
4.1.8  igknorantzrulz  replied to  The Magic 8 Ball @4.1.7    6 years ago
(not much taller than the average doorknob)

wanna give him a turn

around

jumper for 3 pts at

that height.

Just let Trumppy Jr explain it all to U

He and daddyoh never distort the truth

 
 
 
The Magic 8 Ball
Masters Quiet
4.1.9  The Magic 8 Ball  replied to  KDMichigan @4.1.5    6 years ago
Notice at the cattails

im fairly sure some here have no clue what cattails mean.

What Kind of Plants Grow IN Rivers?

hint: cooper is standing IN the river.    or he is a midget... take your pick  :)

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
Professor Guide
4.1.10  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  The Magic 8 Ball @4.1.3    6 years ago

I notice that you keep posting this photograph of Anderson Cooper and calling it fake news, so it's clear that you have not watched the video John posted.  Let me once again help you to look a little less ridiculous.

That image is not in any way related to Hurricane Florence.

The wife of CNN crew member Douglas Thomas pleaded to Donald Trump Jr. via Twitter on Wednesday to stop using an old image of her deceased husband to push a right-wing conspiracy theory.

The image is 10 years old, taken when Hurricane Ike hit Texas in 2008, but was circulated and misrepresented by Trump Jr. on Sunday to attack CNN.

Continuing to post the image is rather stupid, don't you think?  Thirty seconds of research can go a long way.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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4.1.11  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Tessylo @4.1.6    6 years ago

The right is the very definition of truth and credibility.  

 
 
 
Dean Moriarty
Professor Quiet
5  Dean Moriarty    6 years ago

Funny thing is many of those that supported the NYT's article claiming the deep state was protecting us from Trump now deny the deep state exists. 

 
 
 
The Magic 8 Ball
Masters Quiet
5.1  The Magic 8 Ball  replied to  Dean Moriarty @5    6 years ago

if they do not exist? no one will have a problem when they face the end result of treason.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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5.1.1  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  The Magic 8 Ball @5.1    6 years ago

That will be a great day for all of America. 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
5.2  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Dean Moriarty @5    6 years ago

Good point.  They can’t have it both ways.  

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
6  JohnRussell    6 years ago
That wasn't all, however. In yet another video, a State Department employee named Stuart Karaffa, a member of the Metro DC Democratic Socialists of America, talked about engaging in his far-left politics while working as a bureaucrat-diplomat .

That video was ludicrous, and no more proved a deep state than you have proved that there deserves to be a state of Jefferson. 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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6.1  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  JohnRussell @6    6 years ago

The State of Jefferson most certainly deserves to exist where and as proposed.  We are spreading our efforts into Southern Oregon counties as well again.  

My icon photo is actually from Josephine County Oregon.  
 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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6.2  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  JohnRussell @6    6 years ago

The deep state exists and is the swamp that we sent Trump to DC to clean out.  

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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6.2.1  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  XXJefferson51 @6.2    6 years ago

And here in California the Jefferson movement is the lead effort at combatting the deep state that is Californication.  

 
 

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