Despite Media Claims, Witch Hunt Still Has Nothing
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While Trump is busy negotiating trade deals across the world and finally getting China to play ball, the media is reigning destruction on his character once again. You won’t catch any of them coming down with a case of “good will toward men” this Christmas season.
Instead, they have twisted everything we know about the Mueller investigation. If you took their word for it, Trump is minutes away from being impeached and will most assuredly rot in jail for the rest of his life. If you actually read the reports yourself, you’ll learn that the real story is quite different.
The Big News
The media has gone absolutely crazy over the last week. News broke that Michael Cohen plead guilty to a new charge: lying to Congress. According to releases from the Mueller investigation, Cohen violated his oath and intentionally deceived Congress during his testimony. Specifically, he lied about the Trump organization’s business dealings in Russia in 2016. Cohen’s original statement was that Trump abandoned the project in January 2016. New reports suggest that the deal didn’t fully collapse until June of 2016.
That suggests that Trump’s business was still working on a Russian deal during six months of Trump’s presidential campaign. According to the media, this is absolute proof that Trump colluded with Russia to win the election.
Let’s slow those horses for a moment. This is definitely bad news for Michael Cohen. If it can be proven that he lied under oath, he’ll face perjury charges among whatever else Mueller is throwing at him. By association, this is bad for Trump too. It shows that the lawyer he trusted was even more corrupt than we already knew.
What this isn’t, is proof that Trump himself did anything wrong. There are a few points to emphasize in this. First, the deal with Russia had nothing to do with politics or elections. It was real estate. Trump’s company was trying to get permits to build a tower in Russia. Ultimately, they abandoned the plan due to “deal fatigue,” in essence there was too much red tape to get the project going and everyone eventually lost interest in the project.
The second important consideration here is that Trump himself wasn’t working on the deal. He was busy campaigning to become President. His subordinates were the ones contacting and working with people in Russia. Let’s emphasize once more that all of this was legal business. It had nothing to do with elections on any level.
The final point is that despite everything, Cohen has stuck to his original testimony in regards to Trump himself. At no point did Cohen see any evidence that Trump conspired with Russian agents to influence the election. That remains true. Building skyscrapers is not election interference.
The Roger Stone Mess
While the Cohen story was breaking, there was also a new story involving Roger Stone. Anyone who claims they have a clear understanding of Roger Stone’s place in all of this is outright lying. Even Roger Stone isn’t clear how he fits into the big picture.
According to mainstream media, Roger Stone was Trump’s liaison to stay in touch with WikiLeaks. It was through Stone that Trump influenced Julian Assange to release Hillary Clinton and her campaign manager John Podesta’s emails, thus influencing the election. None of this has been proven, but it’s the assertion of mainstream media.
Even if this were 100 percent true, it wouldn’t necessarily constitute anything illegal. It’s certainly a far shake less than what the Clinton campaign did by collaborating with a foreign spy to convince the FBI to illegally investigate a political opponent.
More importantly, there’s no evidence that any of this happened the way the news is saying. All that we know so far is that a series of text messages were released, and they show Democratic agents trying to convince Cohen to stifle the release of Clinton emails. It looks like the left were the ones meddling once again.
No matter how we look at this, the unknowns still outnumber the knowns by a lot. But, until we know better, we have to go by the evidence at hand. None of it points at President Trump.
We now have two separate storylines that point to Democrats trying to use foreign agents to influence the election. We still have nothing to suggest that President Trump operated outside of the law at any point. If anything, Mueller continues to prove that Trump has been the victim of the greatest government conspiracy and corruption in the history of our country. But, you wouldn’t get any of that reading mainstream headlines.
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It's funny that the people the left keep expecting to flip on Trump have all come up short. Popadopolous got a whole two weeks in jail. Nobody even knows what's going on with Stone. Manafort and Cohen are both so dishonest you can't trust them to tell you the time of day. So much for Mueller having a star witness.
I dont think seeing people associated with our president going to jail as funny. I see it as really sad.
When our leaders associate with people that end up n jail, to me that isn't a good sign.
Yes, the double standards people are held to based on their political affiliation is really sad. Manafort goes to jail but the Podestas don't even get charged. Hillary gets away with worse behavior than a perjury trap. The Dems actively use Russian sources for a political opposition dossier that gets used unethically as the basis for a FISA warrant.
I dont know the details but are you saying our government is crooked and doesn't hand out justicus fairly ?
Poor donny
LOL
The whole world against poor donny.
Victim card played. movin on.
“While Trump is busy negotiating trade deals across the world and finally getting China to play ball, the media is reigning destruction on his character once again. You won’t catch any of them coming down with a case of “good will toward men” this Christmas season.
Instead, they have twisted everything we know about the Mueller investigation. If you took their word for it, Trump is minutes away from being impeached and will most assuredly rot in jail for the rest of his life. If you actually read the reports yourself, you’ll learn that the real story is quite different.”
Yes this man has certainly make the world revolve around him. But I think before jumping on this megalomaniacs bandwagon myself I'll wait to see the end results.
Yep, President Trump threatening to throw a political opponent in jail without any evidence of wrong doing is really sad.
Manafort committed bank fraud and, tax evasion and, he lied to the FBI.
When did Hillary get away with a "perjury trap" or worse and, how was the perjury trap, which by the way is illegal for a PROSECUTOR to do, used by Hillary? Christopher Steele isn't Russian and, never has been, he is a former MI6 agent, MI6 is British, you know like James Bond.
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Amazing what you will just suck up on his word....you haven't learned anything, even from your previous heroes.
"TRUST, BUT VERIFY" Does that ring a bell?
China has him by the balls, they're not "playing ball" the 90 day tariff suspension is unilateral, he backed off.
He's not negotitating a thing. Has the EU picked up the soybeans the Chinese stuck him with? Nope, but you loved the lip service.
It slipped right through the open craters of his and his followers heads when China said they may buy some agricultural equipment.
China is buying property all over the world, especially Africa. They are building mass transit systems and ports in Africa.
China and Saudi own the largest refineries in America.
Iran"s largest oil and natural gas customer? China.
So....what trade deals?
Right now he's so busy trying to keep his ass out of prison, every other country is laughing and creating workarounds to bypass his bullshit.
He's owned by so many different factions locally and globally he effectively become neutered.
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What political opponent has Trump threatened to jail? As far as I know the only elected official who has threatened to abuse her power is Ocasio-Cortez. When did this happen and why wasn't CNN on it?
Clinton.
Really? She threatened him with her own personal power or did she remind him that they lost the house and the investigations were coming? And speaking of threats...did we just hear Trump openly blackmail the Dems by saying if they investigate him he would pull out files?
Let's see...is that Blackmail or extortion?
It is pretty pathetic, and a very depressing light on our democracy. But of course, that thing has been going down the shitter for years, Trump is just an inevitable outcome.
O it ain't over yet by a long shot. We haven't even declared bankruptcy yet.
Hillary belongs in jail. She got away with criminal activity because of a biased FBI and a corrupt DOJ. Trump has done a great job of getting rid of those tainted FBI officials so far.
He could also release the un-redacted files the republicans keep hiding behind, but he won't because he is a partisan hack. See? You will believe what you want to believe, the facts be damned. And if trump hides the fact from you, you'll create your own narrative to fit whatever excuse trump has for not releasing them.
In other words? You are telling yourself what you want to believe.
As for Hillary, we need to Lock 🔒 Her Up! And throw away the key 🔑.
I will happily and enthusiastically second that!
Hillary: 9 benghazi investigations, 2 FBI investigations, an 11 hour long live TV interrogation, all lead by republicans... Not one charge, guilty plea, indictment for anything. NADA
Trump: 1 investigation. 109 indictments, 36 guilty pleas, one prison sentence, (so far).
But YOU think we should go back to investigating Hillary, and drop the trump investigation? That's fucking hilarious!
What was that you were saying about due process? Maybe you should at least charge her with a crime first... LMFAO!!!!
For what exactly? Name the crime she was convicted of in a court of law.
And years upon years of investigations by congress....NOTHING
So, do you have any proof?
I doubt highly.
Comey himself provided the proof. There's no doubt Hillary broke the law. But the corrupt politicians and officials let her off on the grounds she was negligent.
Wow. So much for due process. Way to trash the Constitution there. This goes for all you guys.
Something you any many others don't seem to understand and it has to be repeated over and over...
You cannot expect to convict ANYONE without "mens rea" . It is essential to almost every criminal prosecution.
Regardless of your personal opinion there were too many precedents set from years before to be able to successfully prosecute. Most if not all of the emails were deemed classified after they were retrieved creating more holes.
Essentially the FBI said "yes, there were violations, but because of all the holes and the lack of criminal intent it couldn't be prosecuted successfully.
But, if you want to waste the time and lots of money only to find you lose on those points then watching as she starts successfully suing the government and the instigators including Trump....Let's get some popcorn and watch the show!
Notice the Republicans only took it so far? They knew just what I told you above. The efforts were of political intent to all those hearings and several Republicans admitted that. They would have been able to prosecute but they didn't.
You keep flapping your gums but still refuse to provide even a modicum of evidence. Cite the statute that supports your posit or STOP spewing BS.
So Hillary was too incompetent to know what she was doing but still should've been president? That's not a good look either way. And the GOP hasn't let it go. The DOJ just reopened the investigation thanks to James Huber.
That case is limited to FOIA regulations. STOP!
"From the group of 30,000 e-mails returned to the State Department, 110 e-mails in 52 e-mail chains have been determined by the owning agency to contain classified information at the time they were sent or received. Eight of those chains contained information that was Top Secret at the time they were sent; 36 chains contained Secret information at the time; and eight contained Confidential information, which is the lowest level of classification"
There you go. Straight from the FBI findings themselves.
First of all, isn't Comey the guy y'all claim is a big fat liar?
Second of all, there's NO LINK to a statute in your post.
Third of all, from YOUR link:
GThat part of the report is where Comey goes off the rails and reveals either his own corruption or that he was a pawn of Obama/ Hillary.
Oh, and here's a list of statutes she possibly violated:
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So you want to use the part of Comey's press conference that you LIKE and dismiss the part that you don't.
Bad Form.
Wait WHAT? Didn't you INSIST that "There's no doubt Hillary broke the law."?
Yep, that was YOU.
So AGAIN, cite a law that you insist that she 'broke". Or you could just admit that you've had NOTHING all along...
BTW, your link comes back here...
I use the part of Comeys speech he was legally obliged to share due to all the hours of works by the honest rank and file agents and ignored the part that the politicians and their appointees put in to provide cover for themselves. And because Comey gave a recommendation on whether to prosecute or not- which wasn't his place- I'm not going to say Hillary is absolutely guilty without a trial. Unlike the way the left showed itself during the Kavanaugh hearings I still believe in due process. But the evidence so far is pretty conclusive. And maybe that link will work now:
Wow, another load of uninformed bullshit. Comey was NOT 'obliged' to share a fucking thing. You prove again that you are clueless about this issue.
I gave you all the details straight from the FBI that Hillary without any doubt illegally sent and stored classified info. Just because the corrupt system let her off on a technicality makes her no less guilty. I'd say you'd have to be clueless not to see that. Thank God the voters in the sane states saw it and denied her the WH.
Actually, what you did was cite ONE speech from the guy y'all insist is a big fat liar, and which does not PROVE that "There's no doubt Hillary broke the law."
Yet after all this time you STILL can't cite even ONE law as an example. Why is that?
Nope. I am merely attempting to hold you responsible for the bullshit you post. You can't come up with a law that Clinton broke because there isn't one.
The idea that Trump voters give a shit about National security is hilarious.
But trump said the FBI is totally corrupt. So, the information you posted is all fake news.
Reading is fundamental....
And you just dropped the whole intelligence ball.
Trump threatened the dems with documents if they investigate him
It's called extortion....get a grip on facts.
No, again. The voters chose her for the job of POTUS, the electoral college gave it to Trump.
No, members of the electoral college are picked by the party, not voted on by the citizens.
AND it doesn't matter, my statement is factual. You seem to be the one having issues with the understanding that while Trump is President, he was not chosen by a plurality of voters.
It was the voters of 30 states via the methods called for by the Constitution of the United States 🇺🇸 that elected Trump and kept that sleazy woman 👩 locked 🔒 out of the White House.
It was a "Federal" election, my statement is still factual.
You are correct, too bad you didn't read my comment thread to see that WAS NOT what I was saying.
You have that backwards and I am getting really tired of Trump voters refusing to accept that Trump DID NOT win by the people's vote.
The electoral college members were voters (because they are US citizens), but they voted for who they were instructed to, irregardless of who they wanted to. Theoretically, they could have voted for someone else, but they are selected because they would not do so.
Which nonsense?
The nonsense that Trump lost the popular vote by the people by around 3 million votes?
Or the nonsense about 3 million illegal aliens voting for Hillary then expertly hiding their actions from Trumps investigative committee?
Actually Trump did win by the people’s vote in each and every single one of our 50 states and DC. The winner of the majority of the vote in each gets the electoral votes for each. Excess votes in a given state beyond what it takes to win it are less than meaningless.
Funny...how many years was Cohen the fixer and Vice President of Trump's company?
Oh but now he's a known liar?
Too funny.
How does that prove Trump has committed any crime? Lots of people have sleazy lawyers, including Cohen himself who hired Lanny Davis. The same Lanny David who works for the Clintons and made every reputable network (not counting CNN, which has no credibility) retract a story about the Trump Tower meeting.
Nice attempt to derail.
Point being he was a trusted attorney and his right hand man.
Now that he's confessed he's suddenly a liar.....oh yeah, Trump denies, they look in the records and Cohen's telling the truth. Denies he directed the payments then has to admit to the payments. Denied he had any business dealings with Russia...ooops!
Seems Cohen isn't the liar here.
Love how you injected CNN in to that like a weapon...so typical.
Fact is CNN, The "failing NYT" and the Washington Post have been proven correct time and time again.
You really want to hang your hat on the Trump Tower meeting? After both daddy and son were caught lying?
Enjoy your fairytale, shit's going to get worse for all of us soon. Especially for the Trumps and their defenders.
His own DOJ has said he participated and directed a felony....think those doors aren't going to swing wide open now?
Guy Petrillo is Cohen's lawyer of record and has signed off on all of Cohen's plea agreements. By doing so, Petrillo confirms the veracity of the statements in the plea and put's his own credibility on the line. Petrillo is a highly regarded attorney and a former Federal prosecutor.
BTFW, the Federal prosecutors do so also when presenting the Cohen's elocution in front of a Judge. There is NO WAY they would do so merely on Cohen's say so. They have evidence, independent of Cohen's statement, to support the charges in the memo.
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So... It's the 'We're all such big liars you'll have to throw out all our testimony' defense now? Might be your best bet.
Rudy said he is an honorable person that tells the truth and trump kept him on the payroll for 16 years. If he was so dishonest, why did trump keep him as a personal lawyer for 16 years?
Because he so dishonest of course.
Popadopolous got the sentence he did because he apparently provided valuable information … and the dishonesty of individuals is one precise reason one could logically speculate they'd be involved in nefarious activities and crimes …
… and among the "nobodies" who don't know what's going on with Stone … is you, me and likely everyone except Mueller, Trump, Stone himself, Cohen, Manafort, Gates …
Are you living in a cave with only FartzNews being pukefunneled in?
I'm sure you and the rest of the left won't be happy about the outcome of all this.
Once again, what crime(s) has Trump committed?
Well, as of yesterday campaign finance laws ( a felony ) according to the DOJ.
You think we won't like this outcome? It's Republicans that are running for cover.
Tick-tock.....the report is coming, we'll then know what Mueller reports.
You are correct about not liking the outcome of say the economy. He's fucking that up royally...even admitting he doesn't care about the debt because it won't show the most crucial damage he's caused until he's out of office.
This is not going to be pretty and whenever we get rid of him there's going to be a huge mess to clean that will be all on the Right and the Republicans....No Obama or Dems to blame this on. This fucking we're getting comes at a time when all three nranches were the right.
You should read the Manafort and Cohen papers released yesterday by Muller's investigation,
Luv the new avatar !
Where’s the indictment
It's coming. He has to be impeached to be served.
And don't expect the Republicans to bail his ass out. Many of them want him gone too.
So far it's felony campaign finance. And perjury.
These are just the first dominoes falling. They get bigger and heavier from here but of course many of you will disappear
A few weeks.
Thank you. This is my traditional holiday avatar.
I heard an alternative today to serving Trump now. They can place an indictment under seal, which would suspend the statute of limitations and allow the DOJ to serve Trump the second he becomes a 'private citizen' again...
You know that Nixon was never indicted right?
If needs be, YES.
Why NOT?
Where’s that?
My avatar is what the entire msm / social media internet has largely become.
You have not been censored until it has been done by or at the behest of the government.
I'll get my miniature violin for the situation.
He's not going to finish this one or did you forget NYS is hot on the trail of his little sperm catchers?
The pressure in his seat is going to be too much, he'll resign with a deal for him and his kids.
Evidence is piling up, Mueller is going through his notes....tick-tock, tick-tock...
Nobody asked you Xx.
missing an X, no....
Iggy! Long time no see...
well then,
im glad to see you got knew glasses
been dormant as of late
Nonsense. Just leftist fantasies
And they seem to have a lot of those....
I'd be going for obstruction charges.
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That too.
The charges will pile up all around.
Did you see that the incoming AG in NYS said she expanding the investigation of Trump and his sperm catchers? No longer just the foundation, she's going to start turning over rocks in his businesses.
But yes...obstruction of justice, witness tampering by floating pardons, conspiracy charges a block long,
And if the economy keeps fluttering and the market crashes the Republicans are going to find themselves on the outside looking in again.
That probably won't come until Scumbag's out of office. But there'll definitely be a report to Congress with the recommendation to impeach.
I'll say this, Democrats know how to fight dirty. The Clinton campaign got false "dirt" from Putin's cronies and used the information they received from the Russian government to plant stories in the press prior to the election to try and win it. When they lost, they played even dirtier. Despite being the ones who actually colluded with Russian government officials themselves,, they doubled down on the fake narrative that it was Trump who colluded with Russia to "steal the election" and used the friendly MSM to create a Red hysteria that tried to undermine the Trump administration before it even began. Based on nothing but lies and friendly media pressure, the Democrats bamboozled the legal machinery of the US government to launch an all encompassing, full scale investigation into all aspects of Donald Trump. And not a pro-forma "let's give immunity to everyone for nothing" and let witnesses act as lawyers type of investigation the FBI did of the Hillary Clinton, but a full scale "find wrongdoing, any wrongdoing, will do" type.
It's the greatest dirty trick of all time.
Yeah right, let's try to use a little clarity here, the Southern District of New York filed this, it is out of Cohen's mouth and, the evidence presented,
However, Cohen never followed up on the invitation.
Can you say exculpatory evidence?
Seriously, thank's for highlighting that even after turning on Trump, Cohen still says no collusion took place.
Is this the current Fox News claim?
The federal attorney of the Southern District of New York has different ideas and he has the facts to back them up. Donald Trump is named as Individual One.
Try and read please. The legal filing admits that Cohen didn't follow up on the invitation from the Russian. Sad when liberals decry the actual documents filed by Mueller as "fox news claim." I shudder to think where you get your news from if information direct from Mueller's actual filing is so hard for you to believe.
Nothing in your little blurb claims Trump coordinated with Russia. Do you not understand what you wrote?
Don't be obtuse. Donald Trump directed Micheal Cohen to commit crimes. That itself is a crime.
Rex Tillerson has said publicly
that Trump repeatedly insisted that Rex do thing's the way Trump requested/ordered him to, despite Tillerson's repeated insistence that the orders violated the laws
both domestically or internationally. Trump just doesn't care.
Here's a felony committed by Trump for ya,
Again... Where does it say that he committed crimes involving RUSSIA?
The point, again, is collusion. There remains zero evidence that Trump colluded with Russai, despite the hysterical red scare that Democrats and a liberal media created based on their own dealing with Russian government officials.
Not one mention of a felony committed involving collusion with Russia to steal the election.
It's amazing how hard it is for people here to grasp that distinction.
It's amazing to me that it hasn't sunk in yet that it doesn't have to be for collusion with Russia or, conspiracy with Russia, it can be conspiracy with Cohen to use money to tip the election in Trumps favor by hiding information that would hurt his campaign, you know, McDougall and, Daniels story's? That is a campaign violation, which is a crime, which happens to be a felony, which is impeachable.
Did FDR, LBJ, and JFK hide their affairs as president to maintain their political power? Of course they did
the American people could care less. What they want is for their president to make America better and for them individually
Which porn stars did they pay off just before the election? Oh wait, none of them did that.
Did you actually read my post or do you just parrot talking points? My parent post in this thread argues there is zero evidence of collusion and that this whole investigation was premised on a lie. Nothing you said rebuts or even addresses that. It's like you just cut and paste arguments that have nothing to do with the post you are responding to.
He did? When, where? Link?
That's funny because so many of your brethren claim that it Trump gets a mulligan because all of that was before he was anointed.
BTFW, it doesn't matter if 'people could care less', Trump CARED $280,000 worth, not including what he paid Cohen for 'services rendered'. All to hide the fact of his adultery from voters and allegedly, from his third wife.
Are you positing that the only crimes that Trump should be held accountable for are those connected to Russia?
Did you listen to the Cohen tape between himself and donny? If you had you would know that trump DID pay Cohen back via a shell corporation. Paper trails suck..LOL
Spin spin spin....trump is caught, he committed a felony and he has been caught. Deal with it.
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That's comparing three apples to one orange, those three men actually accomplished something as president, they gave their lives to public service and, they asked the women they dated before they "grabbed their pussy's".
Ummm, yeah, I did read your post and, I stand by my post in response. You don't know what Mueller has involving CONSPIRACY, notice I used the correct word, not collusion, the crime would be conspiracy, which is the criminal form of collusion. I'll tell you what we do know, the current president of the United States went into a conspiracy with his lawyer and, the owner of the Enquirer to pay off a porn star and, a Play Boy Bunny before the election so that the information that he had, had sex with them didn't come out in the last few months before said election, that is a campaign finance violation and, is a felony.
It becomes illegal when that personal money is used to cover up something that could effect his campaign, which an affair with a porn star and, a Playboy Bunny could have done.
The House of Representatives and only the House of Representatives decides what is impeachable. Prove otherwise.
God I love it when we're provided with stupid comments...
Trump didn't repay him out of pocket, the Trump Organization did. At the direction of Trump.
That makes it illegal ll the way around.
Before you ask...and then run away...
It's gotta suck when so many of your comments get debunked huh?
After watching your performance on the Kavanaugh threads, I'd assume you are the subject matters expert on that subject.
Awwww Sean...wassa matter?
Gotta dig something so remote because you've been getting shut down everywhere by facts?
I expected something that was the slightest bit mature.
The one difference? I was wrong about many things...but I stayed around.
We're still waiting for you on several threads...we gave up and chalked it up to being the M.O.
Actually no. Trump will maintain that he would not have wanted his affairs made public irrespective of the campaign. Most men and women who have affairs try to keep those secret from their spouse and from the public.
As you leftists told us when Clinton’s adulteries came out, no one cares about his personal life
Yes we KNOW that Trump wouldn't hesitate to lie.
Trump isn't 'most people'. Trump had a notorious affair with Marla Maples while married to Ivana. Flaunting his 'eye candy' all over NY and elsewhere. He LOVES being viewed as the 'rich playboy' and his age hasn't changed that. The divorce filing for Ivanka is heartbreaking reading. She talks about the effect on herself and her kids and the physical and mental abuse she withstood from Trump.
IMHO, Melania knew all about Trump's 'side action' but isn't happy with everyone else knowing about it...
Judging from the reaction of the revelations of the 2 payoffs, I'm pretty sure Trump is pissed that he bothered. Trump predicted that he could shoot somebody and not loose votes, little did he know that his 'evangelical' base were such sycophants that fornication/adultery wouldn't faze them either.
And, that won't fly, the money was used to influence the campaign and, that makes it a campaign finance law violation and, as I said above, that is impeachable.
No it's not.
It is if they conspired to do it and, from what I understand the tapes that Cohen provided have Trump doing just that, that makes it a felony which is an impeachable offense.
Tapes will be inadmissible.
Why?
Ummm, they've already been admitted, in Cohen's case and, they are being used by Mueller's investigation as well as in the other case the SDNY has against the Trump Corporation.
Tapes, cell phones, and any other recordings Cohen had were confiscated as part of a search warrant.
And you rightists went after him with both hands and both feet and to this day, you are STILL bringing him up...
Also, Bill wasn't running around screaming that he was a high and mighty moral Christian like trump does, (and the Christians on the right couldn't care less).
Doesn't matter. The colluding/conspiring had already happened when he was approached and did not immediately inform the FBI of the illegal offering by the Russians. That's what's supposed to happen when illegal foreign involvement in our elections occurs. You don't think Cohen confessed to all his criminal activities when he didn't do anything wrong, do you?
Prove it Sean.
Um, you mean Trump... That wasn't Clinton asking putins buddies for information. Putin and the Clinton's? Not friends, we have known that for a long time.
I can't believe you haven't heard of the Steele dossier. You should look it up.
What about it?
Where did the information in the dossier come from?
The Ukraine, which happens to be an ALLY of the USA.
Whoops! Try again. Try and read the dossier and see who Steele claims gave him information.
Putin and his little friends would never EVER give Hillary dirt on trump. It's that simple. BTW... Who was it that initially funded the Steel dossier anyway? Oh yea, conservative republicans. Guess you forgot that part.
It kinda like how you and the rest of the lefties and liberals forget how it was the Clinton campaign in 2008 that brought up the whole brother thing . Yeah I know now tell me that was different.
Frostie - go read the news again about who funded the Steele dossier - " In April 2016, attorney Marc Elias separately hired Fusion GPS to investigate Trump on behalf of Hillary Clinton's campaign and the DNC . In June 2016, Fusion GPS subcontracted Steele's firm to compile the dossier. His instructions were to seek answers to why Trump would "repeatedly seek to do deals in a notoriously corrupt police state ". Clinton campaign officials were reportedly unaware that Fusion GPS had subcontracted Steele, and he was not told that the Clinton campaign was the recipient of his research."
That blows the 'Clinton conspired with Russia against Trump' scenario all to hell...
Scratch off another one of Donnie's favorite shinny objects.
BTW, a goodly percentage of the Steele Dossier has proven to be factual in the last 2 years. Still no pee tapes though...
Christopher Steele a former MI6 agent.
I guess you've never actually read the dossier. Because if you had, you'd know from whom Steele got his information.
Why should I? Every month more and, more of the dossier is proven to be true, maybe you should take another look at what is actually being used in the Mueller investigation because the dossier is only a small part of it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump–Russia_dossier
It was Marco Rubio's campaign that was the initial funder.
It wasn't the clinton campaign. Sorry.
changing history are you?
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Hillary Clinton and/or members of her 2008 presidential campaign started the "birther" movement questioning whether Barack Obama was born in the U.S.
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On 16 September 2016, after years of being the most visible and outspoken exponent of “birtherism” — the notion that, despite all evidence to the contrary, Barack Obama was born outside the U.S. and thus his presidency is illegitimate and his allegiances suspect — GOP presidential candidate Donald Trump stepped up to the podium at a televised campaign event and completely reversed his stance on the matter — but not before trying to lay blame for the long, drawn-out smear campaign on someone else.
“Hillary Clinton and her campaign of 2008 started the birther controversy. I finished it,” Trump said. “President Barack Obama was born in the United States, period.”
A press release issued by Trump’s campaign staff elaborated on the accusation:
There, now you know the truth.
Maybe But I'll say this trump wasn't too smart on this one:
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For our next election can we please leave the russians out of it ? Please !
The media didn't claim shit... Trump's DOJ did.
If dozens of indictments and guilty pleas is "nothing" then yeah, its been a bust.
None had anything to do with Trump or his campaign
You could be right, trump may be the only not guilty of anything person out of all the people in the entire mess that he benefited the most from. Squeaky clean trump.
I also could drop dead before I finish this post.
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I'm back, Afterthought: Hell all these people around him probably did all this just to make trump look bad.. Poor Donny.
LOL
Larry, trumps campaign paid off Stormy daniels. It had EVERYTHING to do with the campaign!
And that is where your comment is so ignorantly wrong.
So far, the DOJ has implicated him, with evidence, of taking part and directing a felony campaign finance crime.
He perjured himself on the Mueller questions. With proof.
Enjoy your cry.
Why? If trump was on video handing Daniels 130k in cash you STILL wouldn't believe it anyway.
So Trump paid a hooker more than she was worth. It was his money.
Thank you!!! It was HS money, which PROVES he committed a FELONY!!!!!!! LMAO!!!!
Oh yea, all good Christians pay off porn stars behind their wive's backs, right?
Let's not forget that Trump admited to firing Comey over that "Russian thing" on live TV. How can anybody still support Trump?
Easy. He’s not Hillary. He’s appointed great judges to the federal judiciary branch, he’s restored our military, revived economic and wage growth, made us energy independent, and cut taxes and regions. He supports religious liberty 🗽. That’s what matters.
Show me the law that says paying an extortionist the money they demanded is a felony? Just cause you say it don't make it so
Sure, as soon as you do the same whem asked.
It happened yesterday....get it yourself...even.the conservative rags are reporting it
This will be fun if you don't run away as usual...
Extortion you say? She didn't approach Trump or Cohen
She was selling her story somewhere else. Cohen and Trump came in with the offer.
Next...that money was paid by Cohen to keep it from being public during the campaign. Trump reimbursed Cohen...so they said.
No matter which way you spin it the money was paid to help the campaign...and THAT"S where the felony comes from.
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Nope!
Wow, there is SO much wrong with that statement I hardly know were to start.
First of all, I presume you are talking about Stormy Daniels. She is NOT a hooker and Trump didn't pay her for sex, he paid her NOT to tell the press about their one night stand.
Secondly, Cohen paid Stormy Daniels, NOT Trump. The Trump org. paid Cohen, NOT Trump personally. Oh and PLEASE don't come back to me with the BS claim that Trump org. money IS Trump's money, it is NOT.
Those FACTS are documented in Cohen's charging documents. They have the invoices and the bank transfers. Pretty sure Trump's CEO and accountant were helpful getting those documents.
Go look up the documents and READ the FACTS for yourself. It really DOES help to be educated about a subject BEFORE you post about it...
My! How articulate of a response.
Got anything to back up your "Nope"?
Didn't think so.
Well, we can start by knowing it's nothing but troll comments from that direction and that they are usually lies.
And then.....POOF! Gone to the next subject to troll.
It's not about hislittle hooker and playmate "friends", it's about not reporting the funds paid,and lying About it!
Correct...because this one will have real charges.
And that whole comment is a lie.
That pretty much says it all especially when who I am responding to is making stuff up
You mean making stuff up like extortion?
Or that she was a hooker?
Facts are on my side and as usual, you have nothing but trolling lies.
And you lose a third time...
Again, it really would help you to keep up on this if you READ Cohen's charging document. They didn't charge Cohen for paying Daniels to keep quite about Trump cheating on his wife.
Really? Prove it!
Dumbass was shown a list and told what judges to appoint. He doesn't know a damn thing about these judges.
He's done no such thing. The military hasn't advanced in anything by his hand.
Again has done nothing to spur wage growth that for the most part has risen from the minimum wage increases and competitive labor shortage from an employment tragectory instituted by Obama.
His tax program has run it's course , t he businesses kept the money.
You've got to be out of your friggin' mind....you can't even pick one thing he's done that made us energy independent. We had this discussion already with you saying the energy independence that came during Obama's term was in spite of or in spite to Obama. Now you're saying Trump made us energy independent.
Not really...he may have cut the income tax rate which is all nice and shiny to keep you and the droolers amused but if you think tariffs aren't taxes forced on you I can't help with your education.
No, he supports and gives lip service to your views. Religious liberty is liberty for all religions. He shares your hard on for Muslims and atheists.
HONESTY
And that's what you correctly have just been called out on.
Your comment was a lie.
You seem quite selective about the commandments you follow. Christianity allows for choices?
This is what I railed about some time back of using Christianity as a shield and a facade while practicing deception and dishonesty.
We didn’t elect Trump to be the nation’s pastor or even to be a model Christian
1 we elected him to keep Hillary and the Democrats out of the White House
2 we elected him to be a bully against the Democrats and Establishment Republicans
3 we elected him to tear down the Marxist statist bureaucracies that go against making our nation great
4 we elected him to put conservative originalist judges and justices on the Federal courts
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He ran off again.
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What did I tell ya?
As soon as the facts come out
...he's gone
How about you send that list to Trump. Maybe if he sees what his sycophants really want it will get him to back off of his bullshit wall.
It's ILLEGAL to use campaign funds to influence the election. Did you read the report at all?
C'mon...you think he's going to deal in facts?
I did and as usual, you run away from facts...
Easy. He’s not Hillary. (True) He’s appointed great judges to the federal judiciary branch, (very True) he’s restored our military, (True) revived economic and wage growth, (without a doubt true) made us energy independent, (True) and cut taxes (True) and regulations. (True) He supports religious liberty (absolutely true)
Just because you say it's true?
You still have a problem with admitting you said the energy independence came during Obama's term in spite of Obama, now you say Trump made us independent.
Somewhere between there...you lied.
You asked me to prove...I did. You prove he did these things.
We want the wall. It’s part of the defense of the borders
Great! It's finally a promise Trump can keep.
As soon as the check from Mexico shows up and cashed, you'll let us all know okay?
You made those claims.
Show us where he did all those things, don't run away.
Yet neither is on your list LFOD...
Ooopps
I had it on another list and just forgot to include
Why should my tax dollars pay for it? I don't want a wall built. YOU pay for the wall!
(Gee, sounds familiar doesn't it..)
Trump should hold out for funding for the wall. It’s one of his highest priorities. Democrats have priorities. Trump should block everyone of theirs until they give us the wall in exchange for one of theirs.
Trump should shut the government down over funding for that white elephant and watch what happens. The GOP already have an approval rating a few points lower than herpes.
Why should you be permitted to celebrate Christmas if you don't support helping refugees, unless you are willing to admit to being a hypocrite?
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It’s all in the seeded article.
There is NOT one word about ANY of those 'accomplishments' in your seed Xx. Why post a comment that is so clearly false?
You do of course mean from Mexico, right?
Didn't you know? Pseudo christians can do that to escape getting caught.
No, it's not. Now , YOU made the claim and already caught yourself in a lie...prove how he did this.
Or are you lying?
Trump is the victim of an Obama Clinton conspiracy at the highest levels of the deep state.
...is what someone might say after eating magic mushrooms.
Perhaps bad ones. Trips are supposed to be fun, But that sounds like a bad trip to me.
In my own experience, rather than bolster delusion, psilocybin mushrooms heighten vision and perspective. Taking them while backpack camping is a unique 'nature' experience. Oh and they initially make you yawn and laugh till you cry...
That was my experience the first two times, then I took a dose, waited an hour or so and wasn't feeling anything, took a second dose which I sauteed in butter thinking it would make them taste better. Big mistake, had a very bad trip and haven't tried them again since, though it felt like maybe I was tripping the day after the 2016 election when it was apparent that a minority of Americans forced their will on the rest of us by electing a narcissistic orangutan with a penchant for grabbing genitals. That was the start of a worse trip than the previous one I'd experienced and sadly, this one just won't end...
I thought about it in my crawl space but I think my mouse issue would cause an issue...
I just message a friend and they appear like magic.
The dose is based on weight. Minimum a quarter oz. The taste doesn't bother me but I do break them up so they go down faster. Yawning is the first symptom of effect, laughing the second. My vision gets way better than 20/20 and we all decided that we could agree on how to save the world if we just 'mushroom camped' for a little while longer...
Depending on your environment that's easier said that done some places. But yep !
And a really toxic batch, at that. HA is on one hellabad trip.
Wrong, Trump is the victim of trump. I thought the conservatives were so into personal responsibility ?
I guess not when it serves their purpose. Just blame some one else.. It's all good.
LOL
conspeiracy?
Lol
Oh, c'mon Steve. Don't you know by now that all republicans are blameless, never lie and always play by the rules and whose only fault is extreme naivete for trusting those nasty dirty Dems to be FAYAAIR? Why sugar don't even melt in their sh*tholes, er mouths.
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Fuck that! Is there a psychiatrist in the house with thorazine?
None for me. My doc gives me anything I want.
Despite Media Claims, Witch Hunt Still Has Nothing
LOL Time will tell.
Except a bunch of witches: Lessee, there's ManafortWitch, JaredWitch, Flynnwitch, ScumbagJrwitch:
How could I forget Gateswitch and Papadopouloswitch (not shown)?
If Mueller didn't have anything on Trump he would have said so by now.
The Russians wanted a partner in their attempt to influence the 2016 election. They dangled the prospect in front of Trump and his minions at the time.
How much did Trump and his crew bite? That is what is being hashed out by Mueller. Not if, how much?
How so? If they had anything on Trump some leftwing snowflake would have leaked it is a more likely scenario.
Why would they need a partner? They already had the Democrats eating from the palms of their hands.
Hopefully Mueller sends his Report to CNN and lets Anderson "Fake News" Cooper break the news from a ditch in Texas, But then again I do love me some Rachel Madcow sad face.
Hmmmm, lets see if that makes sense....Democrat puts sanctions on Russia, Criminal Conservative president-elect tells his lackey to call Russia and tell them not to worry about the sanctions.
Lackey gets caught telling the message to the Russians and gets thrown under the bus.
Lackey gets no help from criminal Conservative soon to be ex-president.
Lackey gets deal to spill the beans....all the while criminal soon to be ex-president and going to prison is chanting "Lock Her Up" with his drooler groupies and rails about "Fake News"
And we find a hotel deal...that he was going to gift Putin a $50 million penthouse.
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They have nothing. TRUMP did nothing illegal. The article is right about this being a ridiculous witch hunt.
Well, as long as you call felony campaign finance violation, perjury, obstruction of justice and extortion, as well as emolument clause violations "Nothing" you're all set.
I doubt many Americans do. The problem is proving a person did any of that. Just seeing what the normal person considers breaking a law sometimes isn't. It may be close, so close it might as well be breaking the law.
But laws depend on certain factors or regulations... trump has played close to those types of rules , laws and regulations before and for a long long time.
Not the same governmental ones but still enough governmental ones he's no stranger to getting really close and not getting burned. Many others around this man don't seem to come out so fortunate many times though. flynn is one of the lucky ones at the moment. Whose next ?
I doubt it's trump.
Curious minds want to know? When did they do that?
Soooo, you weren't alive when Obama closed 2 Russian embassy posts and sent the ambassadors packing for Russia while placing sanctions on the Russian government for election tampering?
Oh you were talking about Obama's EO leading from behind one final time. Next time try to be more specific.
Republican held congress has passed all new sanctions on Russia just in case you weren't alive when that happened.
You should tell Trump that Obama's EO on Russian Sanctions was 'leading from behind' because Trump and his Treasury Dept. don't think so. From Trump's Treasury Dept.:
That's the EO that you claim Obama was 'leading from behind' on...
Yes and Trump did NOTHING for 6 months and then only after Mueller named names in indictments against Russians.
Yes The king of leading from behind, Obama, knew about Russian meddling and hacking and did nothing about it for 6 months.
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Well step up to the plate and prove me wrong.
Obama knew about Russian election meddling and did nothing until after the fact, Fact.
Just because you choose to remain uninformed doesn't give you the right to call someone a liar.
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Already done. Were you shouting again?
Here's a fact for you...Trump's incoming administration called the Russians and told them they would drop the sanctions. A crime and a fact since the FBI recorded that.
Flynn couldn't make that call unless he was instructed to which puts "Tariff Man" in the seat.
Said your comments were lying.
Said nothing about you.
Uninformed? You had to be shown Obama did put sanctions on Russia.
That makes me uninformed?
Obama informed both candidates also. It was Trump's campaign that still called the Russians to say they'd drop the sanction when Trump took office.
Trump's knew from the day he was inaugurated and didn't do anything for 18 months...and little at that. You must be proud.
Duh. He waited until he had proof. Then, in less than 48 hours, he kicked the russians out of the country....over two years later and trump STILL hasn't done shit....hell, he still denies they even interfered! What's HIS excuse?
You bash Obama for not acting fast enough, but trump gets a pass for doing nothing but deny it for 2 fucking years?
You have GOT to be kidding,,,LOL
It's well to remember that impeachment depends on the commission of "high crimes and misdemeanors" which have no definition in law but entirely for the House of Representatives to determine. I think this particular "constitutional scholar" put it very well in her book:
Only the most completely craven Scumbag supporter would continue to claim the Scumbag has behaved dishonorably (it's his core, basic behavior and had been his entire life, after all) and grotesquely breached the public trust many times and shows no sign of letting up.
I do agree that the DoJ should have arrested Trump, and all of his top advisors including (especially) his filth spawn, when it was first uncovered. It appears you'd have wanted that, too.
Good point. Thanks. I doubt many of us think that is the case, I hadn't given it any thought personally.
Which leads us to ponder and possibly in the near future to see just how and what this congress's real moralities are.
Unfortunately, I think I know.
I still see NO ONE stopping this man. Too many still want Too much from him.
The changing of power in the house may help but, I really think trump will sway many in the house as well still. We'll see.
Ahh, no worries Studiusbagus, their meltdown is coming very soon as Trump pleads to lower crimes and resigns. Otherwise he and his mafia organization will pay a huge price if he doesn't. The good news is, the orange buffoon isn't getting away with it. All his men have turned on him. I can't wait to celebrate and feel the relief of watching this constitutional crisis end.
And now, Senate just denied Saudia Arabia support for Yemen war! Another rebuking stinger for Trump's miserable agenda to get rich quicker at the behest of the US treasury. Maybe some of the Repubs who want to hang onto their jobs are waking up.
Despite Media Claims, Witch Hunt Still Has Nothing
Except for dozens of indictments, multiple guilty pleas, multiple prison sentences, and now ongoing investigations into just about every aspect of fat fuck's life, yeah, nothing.
They have nothing of any significance at all on Trump.