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SHUTDOWN DAY 11: President Trump Is Not Falling For Nancy’s Shenanigans

  

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Via:  donald-trump-fan1  •  5 years ago  •  139 comments

SHUTDOWN DAY 11: President Trump Is Not Falling For Nancy’s Shenanigans
Our president has been winning negotiations his entire life (read: “The Art of the Deal”). Did you, Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer, think he was going to back away from the Wall just because you introduce some pathetic bills that do not include Wall funding? President Trump got out ahead of the dirty Democrats’ sneak plays, making it clear through his own tweets, through his White House consigliere Mick Mulvaney, through his Freedom Caucus ally Mark Meadows, and through Mitch McConnell’s...

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Did you people really think you could pull a fast one on President Donald Trump?

Our president has been winning negotiations his entire life (read: “The Art of the Deal”). Did you, Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer, think he was going to back away from the Wall just because you introduce some pathetic bills that do not include Wall funding?

President Trump got out ahead of the dirty Democrats’ sneak plays, making it clear through his own tweets, through his White House consigliere Mick Mulvaney, through his Freedom Caucus ally Mark Meadows, and through Mitch McConnell’s spokesman that he would not sign any bills that did not fund his Wall. They tried to sneak through Sheila Jackson-Lee’s bill to block Wall funding, disingenuously named the “Protect American Taxpayers and Secure Border Act,” without telling anyone. But that plan was exposed. So Pelosi had to appeal to the public.

Pelosi, 78, predictably tried to pitch her “package” of non-Wall bills to the Associated Press, because the clueless Democrats still think the mainstream media is an effective tool to create PR spin for their stupid objectives. It’s not. The American people hate the mainstream media. By the time news circulated of the Democrats’ bills, which they presumably still plan to pass on Thursday, the Republicans had already made them irrelevant.

The Democrats have no collateral in these negotiations. The mainstream media only has one narrative: Trump should be blamed for the shutdown. But here’s the thing: There’s no blame needed. They are the only ones who think a government shutdown is a bad thing, because everything they say is manufactured garbage talking points. Trump’s supporters want the shutdown to continue until we get a Wall. And even the “non-essential” government employees who aren’t getting paid for a while should be thankful to President Trump, because he is teaching them a lesson about how to improve their lives by making themselves more valuable to others. Why would anyone want to be known as “non-essential?” What a pathetic, undignified way to go through life. This is what the government system does to people. It beats them down.

President Trump is on a winning streak. Acting White House chief of staff Mick Mulvaney clearly knows what he’s doing — which is a welcome breath of fresh air from Reince Priebus, who is an establishment coward, John Kelly, who basically just tried to block Trump from having conversations with smart people and guard against him making any decisions, and Steve Bannon, who for some reason left out the fact that he told Jeff Sessions to recuse himself in the various books that he had people write about him. Jared Kushner, whose silly New York Observer ran a ridiculous hit piece trying to sandbag my excellent news website, should let Mick do his job without interfering too much, because Kushner has also been there from the beginning, during times when the White House was not exactly knocking it out of the park.

President Trump is a master once he learns how to hack the system, a wise man once told me. It seems like now is the time. Two years in, he is getting the hang of it. This government shutdown is an inspiring, galvanizing thing for his supporters. The only thing better would be a big magnificent Wall.

Trump has all the cards. He can close the entire southern border if he wants to. He can keep this shutdown going indefinitely. Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer don’t know what to do. They think the fast-fading mainstream media will save them.

Chuck and Nancy have learned a pretty important lesson: Don’t underestimate President Donald J. Trump during deal-making time. Just hang on to your belongings and hope you make it out with some shred of dignity intact.


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XXJefferson51
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1  seeder  XXJefferson51    5 years ago

“The Democrats have no collateral in these negotiations. The mainstream media only has one narrative: Trump should be blamed for the shutdown. But here’s the thing: There’s no blame needed. They are the only ones who think a government shutdown is a bad thing, because everything they say is manufactured garbage talking points. Trump’s supporters want the shutdown to continue until we get a Wall. And even the “non-essential” government employees who aren’t getting paid for a while should be thankful to President Trump, because he is teaching them a lesson about how to improve their lives by making themselves more valuable to others. Why would anyone want to be known as “non-essential?” What a pathetic, undignified way to go through life. This is what the government system does to people. It beats them down.

President Trump is on a winning streak.”

 
 
 
Krishna
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1.1  Krishna  replied to  XXJefferson51 @1    5 years ago

 Trump’s supporters want the shutdown to continue until we get a Wall. 

Why is a shut down even necessary? Having a shutdown is based on the assumption that U.S. gov't money (which of course comes form U.S. taxpayers) must be used to pay for the Wall. 

But the fact is-- its Mexico who will pay for the Wall, not U/S. taxpayers!  Just as Trump has said on numerous occasions.

Are you saying Trump is a liar?

And as "everyone knows" Trump would never lie!

(Of course Mexico will pay-- just as Trump promised!)

Trump is a man of his word-- so just as he promised-- Mexico will pay:  PROMISES MADE - PROMISES KEPT!!!!

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.1.2  Tessylo  replied to    5 years ago

tRump owns the shutdown - no one else.  

 
 
 
epistte
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1.1.3  epistte  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.2    5 years ago
tRump owns the shutdown - no one else.  

Both the House and the Senate offered him the funding to reopen the government but without money for his xenophobic wall.  If he demands that we fund the wall then the shutdown will continue for a very long time. That is entirely his choice and he takes the blame for the shutdown. The markets are all in the red as of noon EST, so Wall Street doesn't appear to be on his side.  

 
 
 
Ender
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1.1.4  Ender  replied to    5 years ago
having been stopped in their tracks

Seems to me then , the border is working.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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1.1.5  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  epistte @1.1.3    5 years ago

The house provided funding for the wall. The markets ended up in the green today.  

 
 
 
Ender
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1.1.6  Ender  replied to  XXJefferson51 @1.1.5    5 years ago
The house provided funding for the wall

And when did that happen?

 
 
 
epistte
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1.1.7  epistte  replied to  XXJefferson51 @1.1.5    5 years ago
The house provided funding for the wall. The markets ended up in the green today.

The Dow started out deep in the red, went up and then back down and then barely finished in the positive at 4:00 pm. It was far from a positive day.

When did the House of Representatives offer money for the wall today? Pelosi made it very clear.

Speaker-designate Nancy Pelosi told NBC's "Today" show in an interview set to air Thursday that she will not provide President Donald Trump with the border wall funding he has demanded and shut down the government over.

Asked by NBC's Savannah Guthrie if she was willing to give up any money specifically for the border wall, Pelosi said "no."

"We can go through the back and forth," Pelosi said in a clip that aired on MSNBC on Wednesday. "No. How many more times can we say no? Nothing for the wall."
 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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1.1.8  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  epistte @1.1.7    5 years ago

Then we who want it have no problem at all with making the shutdown last as long as there is no wall funding however long that might might be.  

 
 
 
Ronin2
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1.1.9  Ronin2  replied to  epistte @1.1.7    5 years ago

What don't like it when Trump pulls an Obama?

If the Dems don't feel like negotiating then the shutdown stays. Isn't that what we heard from the left when Obama was in charge?

Love the fact the Dems are trying to cut out border security completely now. OK to fund the rest of the government; but never that.

 Keep the government shut down. Can't stand Trump or Congress- let the dumpster fire that is our government burn.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
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1.1.10  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Krishna @1.1    5 years ago

Trump’s supporters want the shutdown to continue until we get a Wall. 

Of course they do.  Most of them will still get their guvment checks and SNAP.  Meanwhile, the workers who need their paychecks are thrown under Trump's bus.

 
 
 
1stwarrior
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1.1.11  1stwarrior  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @1.1.10    5 years ago

And, ya know, when the wall is being built, those "workers" can actually get a job building the wall.

How 'bout that, eh?

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
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1.1.12  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  1stwarrior @1.1.11    5 years ago

He will just bring in visa employees like he does with his businesses and pay them pennies on the dollar.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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1.1.13  Trout Giggles  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @1.1.10    5 years ago

They're start screaming when they don't get their tax refunds next month

 
 
 
epistte
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1.1.14  epistte  replied to  1stwarrior @1.1.11    5 years ago
And, ya know, when the wall is being built, those "workers" can actually get a job building the wall. How 'bout that, eh?

They'd get paid the very same using money from the repealed tax cut for the 1% to rebuild our infrastructure that is currently held together with duct tape, wire, and happy thoughts. 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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1.1.16  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  dennis smith @1.1.15    5 years ago

Or they could compromise and either split the difference between 5.7b and 0 right down the middle allowing the money to be spent on the wall or they could make it part of a larger deal involving DACA and democrat priority infrastructure projects such as that tunnel to Manhattan that Schumer wants so badly and fund all of those projects in full.  Schumer has to know that Trump will never prioritize his tunnel project which costs more than the whole wall 29b vs. 25b without getting the wall too.  

 
 
 
epistte
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1.1.17  epistte  replied to  dennis smith @1.1.15    5 years ago
The shutdown will end 1 of 2 ways.

1) When the dems agree to fund the wall.  

2) When Trump drops his demand.

Both have  skin in the game.

Why would the Democrats fund the stupid wall? The GOP is already starting to fragment because of Trump and his wall, so Nancy has nothing to lose by saying no.  She already has the ability to reopen the government without the wall. 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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1.1.18  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  epistte @1.1.17    5 years ago

No, she doesn’t have that power.  When the government is reopened it will be at last years levels and prorated except for worker pay for the time missed.  Just don’t expect the President to sign any bill regarding infrastructure projects in blue states unless the wall is part of the infrastructure bill that accompanies shutdown resolution.  We will simply place a hold on every single democrat party priority the next two years until they give us the wall for one or more of theirs.  We can and will gridlock the entire federal government to get the wall.  

 
 
 
epistte
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1.1.19  epistte  replied to  XXJefferson51 @1.1.18    5 years ago
No, she doesn’t have that power.  When the government is reopened it will be at last years levels and prorated except for worker pay for the time missed.  Just don’t expect the President to sign any bill regarding infrastructure projects in blue states unless the wall is part of the infrastructure bill that accompanies shutdown resolution.  We will simply place a hold on every single democrat party priority the next two years until they give us the wall for one or more of theirs.  We can and will gridlock the entire federal government to get the wall.  

All spending must be approved by the HoR, so Nancy Pelosi and the DNC do have that power. 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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1.1.20  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  epistte @1.1.19    5 years ago

And anything that passes in her house must also pass in the senate and be signed or allowed to become law without signature by the President.  The house only originates spending bills.  It doesn’t make them law without consent of the senate and president.  So a president could veto everything she passes in her house until they agree to pass something the president wants too.  

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.2  JohnRussell  replied to  XXJefferson51 @1    5 years ago
Our president has been winning negotiations his entire life (read: “The Art of the Deal”).

Trump didn't write The Art Of The Deal. He's never written anything. The actual author of that book, Anthony Schwartz,  has said, that if he knew then what he knows now he never would have participated in that farce. He did it solely for the money, and now deeply regrets that he helped promote a moron like Donald Trump.

 
 
 
epistte
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2  epistte    5 years ago

Reality called and they asked me to check on you. They said that they hadn't talked to you in over a month.

 
 
 
Dean Moriarty
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3  Dean Moriarty    5 years ago

Heck yeah another successful shutdown. I like what I’m seeing here. 

384

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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3.1  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Dean Moriarty @3    5 years ago

Me too.  Hang in there Mr. President!  We love the job that you are doing.  Keep the shutdown going until we get the wall.  

 
 
 
SteevieGee
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3.1.1  SteevieGee  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.1    5 years ago

It's gonna be a while.  Nancy has the checkbook and, apparently, she's in the Bahamas according to the picture above.

 
 
 
1stwarrior
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3.1.2  1stwarrior  replied to  SteevieGee @3.1.1    5 years ago

Sorry - Nancy is in Hawaii - Maxine is in the Bahamas.

 
 
 
SteevieGee
Professor Silent
3.1.4  SteevieGee  replied to  1stwarrior @3.1.2    5 years ago

Good for her.  The Bahamas is nice but it's not Hawaii.

 
 
 
pat wilson
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3.2  pat wilson  replied to  Dean Moriarty @3    5 years ago

That's not trump, the hands are too big.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
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3.3  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Dean Moriarty @3    5 years ago

If being "successful" means no way to pay rent/mortgages, feed your family, face having your utilities turned off, repossessed cars, kids not being able to continue their education because no tuition money, and no money for medical coverage, then I guess it is so enjoy your view.

 
 
 
The Magic 8 Ball
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4  The Magic 8 Ball    5 years ago

what? the federal govt is shutdown?

I did not even notice jrSmiley_91_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Krishna
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4.1  Krishna  replied to  The Magic 8 Ball @4    5 years ago

what? the federal govt is shutdown?

I did not even notice jrSmiley_91_smiley_image.gif

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XXJefferson51
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4.1.2  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to    5 years ago

We are finding in this shutdown that there are some portions of the government that we don’t miss at all and should be shutdown permanently.  

 
 
 
katrix
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4.1.3  katrix  replied to  XXJefferson51 @4.1.2    5 years ago

You people disgust me.  Chortling gleefully about the people who aren't able to get a paycheck - including our border patrol agents, who are forced to work without pay.  You're not the one who couldn't get a marriage license in DC because the courts are closed, so you don't give a crap.  You're not the one rescuing people in our National Parks because there are no rangers on duty - that would require too much compassion on your part, I suppose.  You're not the one who traveled to tour Antietam Battlefield and learn about our history, only to find out that the buildings are closed. 

Despicables apparently have no interest in culture and learning, so you don't care that our museums and the National Zoo are shut down.  And the willful ignorance as to what non-essential personnel do is quite telling.  As is the total lack of consideration for all the small businesses who will never get repaid for the business they've lost because their customers aren't at work or, if they are, are not getting paid.  You know, the little guys you claim to champion.

Selfish and disgusting.  As I recall, you were unemployed for quite some time, so one might think you'd have a little empathy, but nope.

This is why I am hardly ever on NT - I avoid hateful, ignorant people in real life, so why would I want to subject myself to them here?  There are only a few in here, but they shit all over the place and make it stink.   

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.1.4  JohnRussell  replied to  katrix @4.1.3    5 years ago

This is the description of the website that was used to source this article

Analysis / Bias

In reviewing articles on the Big League Politics website it is clear that the sole mission is to promote the agenda of President Trump. Essentially, this could be classified as a propaganda media arm for the President. While there are nice examples of well sourced journalism on this website there are also unproven conspiracy type stories. For example, in one article the author is making the claim that Justice John Roberts was hacked by Obama officials as evidence of a Deep State conspiracy. The source of this audio is from  two discredited public figures . In other stories, there is the use of conspiracy theorists as sources of information. In this story , they are relying on Infowars’ Alex Jones and fellow conspiracy theorist Roger Stone for information and opinion. Overall, the blog is well written, but with a strong right wing bias in story selection. Many stories are factual or at the very least rooted in fact, but there are some stories that are unproven with conclusions being drawn by the authors. These stories are propaganda at best and conspiracy theories at worst.

A factual search reveals some failed fact checks.

Overall, we rate Big League Politics strongly Right Biased based on story selection that favors the right and Mixed for factual reporting due to use of poor sources and promotion of conspiracy theories. (D. Van Zandt 8/2/2017) Updated (6/22/2018)

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.1.5  JohnRussell  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.4    5 years ago

[deleted] The author is a fake news expert named Patrick Howley. He is someone who is basically a half step up from Alex Jones and he is the head of "Big League Politics". These are people who are not interested in facts, they are interested in making money off the gullibility of low information conservatives.

Unfortunately we see this sort of crap seeded too often [deleted] because too few people care to demand better.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.1.6  JohnRussell  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.5    5 years ago

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JohnRussell
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4.1.7  JohnRussell  replied to  katrix @4.1.3    5 years ago

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katrix
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4.1.8  katrix  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.7    5 years ago

There are a few who I would categorize as hateful.  Most people in here are not - I might disagree with them, but they don't hate everyone who isn't on their side of the political fence.  But those few .... uggghhh.  The chortling about the situation their fellow Americans are in really is disgusting.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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4.1.9  Tessylo  replied to  katrix @4.1.3    5 years ago

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XXJefferson51
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4.1.10  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.5    5 years ago

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XXJefferson51
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4.1.11  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  katrix @4.1.8    5 years ago

Build the wall!  

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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4.1.12  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.5    5 years ago

And yet I have another article up, written by an African American woman about all the good that has been done by Trump and Dr. Carson economically for the minority and impoverished communities across country via opportunity zones created under the Trump tax cut law and no one comments on the positive news piece.  

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
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4.1.13  Paula Bartholomew  replied to    5 years ago

Maybe you need to understand what non essential means in the case of federal employees.  They are people employed in jobs that are not crucial to our health and safety such as gatekeepers to our national parks and monuments, scientists doing research, maritime workers, census counters and occupations that might not cause life threatening ramifications if not functioning. Deemed essential are trauma surgeons with the Veterans Administration and the Capitol Hill police force.

 
 
 
bbl-1
Professor Quiet
6  bbl-1    5 years ago

As with all things in the world of ill repute in the realms of the Trump and the flattened roses on the pavement the words from the movie "Django Unchained" ring even more true as they were uttered by Don Johnson--"Like that peckerwood down at the cotton gin."

Trump can not fall for shenanigans.  First, he wouldn't know one if it bit him in the arse.  Second, he's all arse so the bite target is everywhere.  Third, Ivanka for pole dancer.

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
7  Ender    5 years ago

trump: I want a wall and I want it now.

Melania: Now Donald, you know there needs to be money for it.

trump: I don't care, just borrow it from some schmuck like we always do.

Ivanka: Now daddy, you know it has to go through congress.

trump: Congress cannot stop me from doing what I want.

Jared: I want to go to Saudi Arabia.

Ivanka: Daddy, congress controls spending, it is taxpayer money.

trump: Just lie to the people and tell them someone else is paying for it.

Jared: That might work. People don't care when you lie to them.

trump: I want it now! (stomping feet) I have to have it so I will get elected again.

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Expert
7.1  Krishna  replied to  Ender @7    5 years ago

tell them someone else is paying for it.

What's all this Brouhaha about?

China is paying for it-- Trump said so.

So-- there's no problem Haha!

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
7.2  Trout Giggles  replied to  Ender @7    5 years ago

Too bad he doesn't step on a "egg-qualifier".....

 
 
 
A. Macarthur
Professor Guide
8  A. Macarthur    5 years ago

Nancy's "Shenanigans" will include a bill that will open the government by presenting the same deal the Senate Republicans passed unanimously … AND WHICH RUSH LIMBAUGH, ANN COULTER et al, taunted Trump to renege on to kiss ass.

And Mitch McConnell will have his political balls squeezed because, if he brings the Pelosi (original Senate Bill) to the floor for a vote, he fucks Trump … and if doesn't, he fucks all the Republican Senators who crafted the original Bill, he fucks all those being hurt by the shutdown.

Can you say "painted into the corner" boys and girls?

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
8.1  Ender  replied to  A. Macarthur @8    5 years ago
RUSH LIMBAUGH, ANN COULTER

Yep, with some facts be damned. The republicans passed a bill to keep the government open.

How sad is it that rush and a commentator on fox news can hold the government hostage.

I also think it is ironic that now the senate will not vote on a bill the president will not sign. It never stopped them before Ie. all the bills they passed to kill the ACA.

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Expert
8.1.1  Krishna  replied to  Ender @8.1    5 years ago

I also think it is ironic that now the senate will not vote on a bill the president will not sign.

The reason McConnell is doing that is to protect his Republican constituents. In many cases if he let the senate vote, some Republicans would be in a bind, as their vote would be open for all to see.

This way there's no problem for them--- they can say one thing to one audience, an opposite thing to another group....its easier to take contradictory positions and not have to take responsibility for it.

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
8.1.2  cjcold  replied to  Ender @8.1    5 years ago

Pretty sure that Rush and Ann have never told the truth.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
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9  Paula Bartholomew    5 years ago

Donald Trump fan....your name cracks me [up.  deleted]

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
9.1  cjcold  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @9    5 years ago

The far right wing heartland institute goes by many names.

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
9.1.1  cjcold  replied to  cjcold @9.1    5 years ago

Heartland American seems to be our cross to bear.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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9.1.2  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  cjcold @9.1.1    5 years ago

Was I your cross to bear from 2009-2015 when I was CornHusker4Palin?  

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
Professor Participates
9.1.3  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  cjcold @9.1.1    5 years ago

As my dad used to say "Better a cross to bear than crossing a bear."

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
9.2  cjcold  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @9    5 years ago

The far right wing heartland institute goes by many names.

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
9.2.1  cjcold  replied to  cjcold @9.2    5 years ago

How is it that the Koch brothers have gotten under the radar? They are the worst of the worst!  Trump is a lowly pimp compared to them.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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9.2.2  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  cjcold @9.2.1    5 years ago

Do you feel better now?  

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
9.2.3  cjcold  replied to  XXJefferson51 @9.2.2    5 years ago

Won't feel better until Trump, the Koch's and other scumbags are looking out from prison cells.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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9.2.5  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  cjcold @9.2.3    5 years ago

Is that your plan? To lock up all who dare to presume to disagree with you in prison?   Never going to happen.  I do have a great Heartland Institute article on climate change fraud in the science section.  It’s right on.  

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
12  seeder  XXJefferson51    5 years ago

Democrats thought we’d fold and give in and here we are three weeks into this and we still stand tall for the wall.  

 
 
 
The Magic 8 Ball
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12.1  The Magic 8 Ball  replied to  XXJefferson51 @12    5 years ago

trump just canceled pelosi's use of a military plane to travel overseas, until the govt re-opens.

pelosi got "trump trolled"  jrSmiley_91_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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12.1.1  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  The Magic 8 Ball @12.1    5 years ago

Let’s celebrate 🎉 🎊  🥳 

 
 

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