Judge Jeanine Pirro: Think socialism can never happen here? Just look at the left and the last 10 days
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We are reaching a turning point that will forever determine our future -- how we live our lives and how our children will live theirs. The gap between the ever-widening left and right has never been wider, and yet amazingly it continues to widen.
Every time we turn on a TV, open a laptop or listen to the radio, another bizarre, offbeat, outlandish idea brings us closer to socialism and the destruction of capitalism. And it is being pushed by the left.
So you have a decision to make. Do you want to live in a country where no matter how hard you work, no matter what you do or how much you succeed, you simply won't improve your lot?
Do you want to benefit from your own success or would you prefer to let the government take over and use your benefit to pay everyone else?
In the last few weeks, the left has removed its moderate mask to show its true socialist colors as they cheer laws that allow for the killing of babies already born and born alive, giving the mother the right of a thumbs up or thumbs down like an emperor in the Roman Coliseum. And almost every one of the 2020 Democratic presidential candidates supports the New Green Deal proposed by a freshman congresswoman so knowledgeable about Washington that she thinks she came here to sign bills! And her New Green Deal will literally pull planes out of the sky.
No issue, I guess, since the left is happy with the influx coming in through our southern border. No air travel required for them.
This Green New Deal is supported by Senators Cory Booker and Kamala Harris, by Senators Sanders, Gillibrand and Warren and requires that every building in America be rebuilt for environmental reasons and that high-speed rail be developed so that air travel becomes unnecessary.
The New Green Deal foresees Medicare for all and considers a deficit not that big of a deal, because, according to Ocasio-Cortez, we can just print more money.
You know what? You should have left your Monopoly game home when you came to Washington, Ms Ocasio-Cortez.
But my favorite part of the New Green Deal is where they seek a net zero greenhouse gas in 10 years.
So you may ask why “net zero” as opposed to zero? The reason is that they are not sure they will be able to get rid of bovine flatulence. I can't believe I just said that -- aka, cows farting.
These emissions from cows are of concern to the left because these bovine emissions have an environmental impact and the methane gas produced by the bovine flatulence contributes to the greenhouse gases that contribute to global warming.
Need I say more?!
And their hypocrisy. It knows no bounds as they hang on to dear life -- political life, albeit -- in the State of Virginia where the governor and the attorney general dressed in blackface and the governor comes out and says that he is now going to explore the issue of white privilege and pursue an agenda of racial reconciliation. -- Talk about trying to deflect an issue from yourself to everyone else. And he even says it was a terrible week for Virginia. --No, governor, it was a terrible week for YOU!
And now, Lt. Gov. Justin Fairfax is accused of forcible sexual assault and forcible rape. Although the date of one attack was 16 years ago and the other 15 years ago, the victims each have very specific recollections. One has classmates who corroborate her immediate outcry that Fairfax raped her. One victim remembers the date, the time, the place, and telling her classmates.
One involves a doctor who says that she was forced to perform oral sex on Lt. Gov. Fairfax, and although she did not bring it up until years later, it's a far cry from the demands of the left that Brett Kavanaugh remove himself as a candidate for the Supreme Court for something that allegedly happened more than 35 years ago with an alleged victim who didn't remember where it happened, when it happened, and who never reported it to anyone. Fairfax's victim has the date, place, time.
So what I want to know is, where are the Democratic senators who turned the Constitution on its head for Kavanaugh saying that all women need to be believed?
Now where are all the women in their pink hats? Where are the women who suffered sexual assault storming the doors of the Capitol during the Kavanaugh hearings?
Where are those women, who refused to allow the elevator door to close in the Senate as they had a fit and sought to blame Brett Kavanaugh for their own distress?
I guess, if the accused is a Democrat, the rules don't matter. And so it seems the Democrats don't care if someone is in blackface, happens to be a Democrat or if someone accused of sexual assault happens to be a Democrat, or if a baby is murdered after it is born.
This is a group of people that actually sits on their hands when the president of the United States says he wants to stop human trafficking.
A group that sits on their hands when the president says he wants to end childhood cancer.
And they sit on their hands when he says he wants to have a plan to eradicate AIDS.
Who are these people? They are people who are more hateful of one man, our president, that it matters not that he wants to protect babies or stop human trafficking or eradicate AIDS.
I'll tell you who they are. They are people who don't care about us. They only care about power and making sure that they keep it.
And, for all of you who can't make sense of why normal thinking people would not support a border and not care if illegals including MS-13 members come into our country, you need to understand that this group knows that they have lost Americans and their only hope is to get immigrants and illegal immigrants into our country so that they can maintain their power base.
And if you think socialism will never happen in this country, just take a look at what has happened in the last 10 days and ask yourself that question one more time.
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“So you have a decision to make. Do you want to live in a country where no matter how hard you work, no matter what you do or how much you succeed, you simply won't improve your lot?
Do you want to benefit from your own success or would you prefer to let the government take over and use your benefit to pay everyone else?
In the last few weeks, the left has removed its moderate mask to show its true socialist colors as they cheer laws that allow for the killing of babies already born and born alive, giving the mother the right of a thumbs up or thumbs down like an emperor in the Roman Coliseum. And almost every one of the 2020 Democratic presidential candidates supports the New Green Deal proposed by a freshman congresswoman so knowledgeable about Washington that she thinks she came here to sign bills! And her New Green Deal will literally pull planes out of the sky.
No issue, I guess, since the left is happy with the influx coming in through our southern border. No air travel required for them.
This Green New Deal is supported by Senators Cory Booker and Kamala Harris, by Senators Sanders, Gillibrand and Warren and requires that every building in America be rebuilt for environmental reasons and that high-speed rail be developed so that air travel becomes unnecessary.
The New Green Deal foresees Medicare for all and considers a deficit not that big of a deal, because, according to Ocasio-Cortez, we can just print more money.
You know what? You should have left your Monopoly game home when you came to Washington, Ms Ocasio-Cortez.”
This entire section, which is about half the article , is nonsense. Why do you seed such crap? Most Democrats that I know of have called for the Virginia blackfacers and (accused) rapers to resign. These people are not up for election or new appointment at the moment, and unless they are impeached they have to leave on their own. Kavanaugh went up for a vote.
Judge Jeanine is a shameless right wing hack , who even though she is in her mid 60's (and thus too old for the 72 year old Trump), is still wearing low cut blouses and dresses trying to get Trump to notice her longing for him. It's quite touching.
Ahhh - the pot calling the kettle black - interesting.
You mean after they had no choice? What did they say in the beginning? (The party that claims you must believe women)
"I don’t want to get into that ,” said Feinstein, after saying that she “doesn’t know” who Justin Fairfax is!
“It’s premature,” said Kaine , explaining why he isn’t calling for the resignation for Fairfax who is “someone we know real well” and “denies the charges unequivocally.”
“I haven’t had the chance to see her. I did have the chance to see Dr. Blasey Ford testify right in the room in front of me. So she had a chance to display great personal credibility. I have not seen this other witness or victim,” said Rhode Island Senator Sheldon Whitehouse.
“Busy with bills and focused on matters at hand right now,” said leader of Virginia House Democrats Eileen Filler-Corn.
Kavanaugh went up for a vote.
In that case, Ford couldn't even prove she met him. Here in the Fairfax case there is proof of sex taking place and some corroboration. You guys didn't want Kavanaugh on the Court so you dragged him through the mud. "What goes around comes around"!
unless they are impeached they have to leave on their own.
That's the best part. I hope they keep this issue going right up to the 2020 election.
Judge Jeanine is a shameless right wing hack , who even though she is in her mid 60's (and thus too old for the 72 year old Trump), is still wearing low cut blouses and dresses
She is 67 to be exact and we all should look half as good at that age. What ever her diet should be bottled and sent to the rest of the women!
I don't disagree. She has the hots for her he-man Trump though.
Why do I feel as if you are jealous she has a fair better shot at Trump than you? Your hatred of Trump through the judge is quite creepy.
Ageism and misogyny attacks in one sentence. Bravo!
Other than what you think are low cut blouses, exactly why do you believe that Judge Jeanine Pirro is "shameless", John?
Slut shaming and ageism. How wonderful. /s
Democrats love to say Republicans are sex-obsessed prudes but at least around here, I see it a lot more from the Left than I do from the Right.
The VA Democratic Party and numerous senior democratic politicians has asked/demanded that he resign.
If all three were to resign a Republican would become governor of Virginia.
What did the leader of the Virginia House democrats say?
The same thing that Steve King said...
Eileen Filler-Corn said something King said? What was that?
Will the term socialism in GOP/World become the new 'Lock her up' or 'Crooked Hillary'?
Socialism is the siren song of Alexandra Ocrazyo Cortez and hopefully so. Socialism is America’s enemy #1 now.
What, specifically, about what you call 'socialism' concerns you the most?
I'm guessing Social Security first,
mandatory Home owners insurance second and other insurances after that....
and here's an opinion from the interweb
He doesn't understand what socialism would mean, and he equates the economic idea of socialism with an authoritarian government.
Fox News that their viewers do not understand basic economic concepts that aren't spoon fed to them in sound bites and that their viewers typically respond with fear instead of by learning from respected sources.
Siren song? "Grab em' by the puffy." Conservatism should let it go at that and quit while they're ahead. Well, ahead--------could be a matter of definition.
Most of us have the Fox Business Network as well as Investors Business Daily and The Wall St. Journal and understand the economy and business news as well or better than anyone else.
It's easy to comprehend it. Get on a plane to Miami Florida and ask any elderly individual in that community what it means. They will have a detailed answer.
Of course you do....
Do you not see the obvious bias inherent in those conservative sources?
When was the last time that myself or other progressives ever mentioned Cuba as an example of democratic market socialism?
Here's a hint; It isn't and neither is Russia, Venezuela, N. Korea, or E. Germany. It is your own ignorance of the economic concept that it is the problem because you cannot discuss the subject in an intelligent and rational manner, so you fall back on emotions.
Well enlighten us then. What does "Democratic socialism" "Social Democrat" whatever term you want to use to make yourself feel better, mean to you?
The meanings of these terms are established. They are not personal opinion. But even advocates such as Sanders and Cortez get it wrong. They call themselves Democratic Socialists and then propose liberal and social democracy policies.
Democratic socialism is a category. It refers to systems with distributed control over the productive resources of the economy. The people collectively control the productive resources of the economy - not a minority as in capitalism. Key is the notion of workplace democracy, regional capitalization and an active, engaged community. These systems are all theoretical; some elements exist today (such as workplace democracy) but societies would have to evolve for these systems to go into effect at a national level.
Social democracy, in contrast, is highly regulated capitalism that funds a 'benevolent' government offering public services. It is a form of capitalism. Social democracy has been in place at a national level for about 75 years. Heavily used in Europe.
Thank you. You stated it better than my reply would have been.
no, socialism is too long a word and doesn't rhyme with anything. They'll have to stick with jail her.
trump tried to start the next bumper sticker "the wall goes up then crime goes down" but it's too long and doesn't rhyme either.
We have already accepted Socialism in this country. We have been at least a semi-Socialist nation with the passage of the Social Security Act of 1935. And, that Socialism has been deeply ingrained into our psyche. That Socialism was expanded with Medicare Part D and the PPACA. What we are in the middle of is an identity crisis due to that Socialism. Do we continue on the path to providing everything to everyone without thought to the costs and eventually have the system collapse as it is doing in Venezuela, or do we stop the progression of that Socialism and return to the independence and self-reliance this country was built on by the colonists to the pioneers in the Oregon Territory? I prefer to return to the independence and self-reliance of the pioneers; but I will take advantage of the Socialism we currently have. A person would be a fool not to when they are without a job and other resources and been turned down at multiple jobs for various reasons, including a lack of funding at a state government agency after interviewing for a job with said agency.
What you call socialism is actually social democracy or, to be more generic, statism.
Yes Statism, which the founders rejected forthrightly and completely, at least the monarchical version....
And tried to set up a government to prevent it from ever taking root...
But people keep trying and will keep trying until they get it and learn that it wasn't what they really wanted after all, much like Venezuela has recently learned.
But that's no matter, they are going to keep trying cause no one else has done it right. At least that is the argument they use.......
Venezuela is an extreme case of statism. Shows how bad things can get - an all powerful state (government) is historically a nightmare for the people.
What I call Socialism is Socialism. You are trying the old bait-and-switch, TiG. Socialism is both an economic and governmental system. Statism is where the State comes first in all things. Socialism is where a government or society ends up trying to support itself not through individualism and self-responsibility but through taking from those that were self-responsible and individually wealthy through hard work and gives it to someone whom the government decided was disadvantaged. The problem with that system is that it will eventually collapse due to people deciding that it is foolish to work hard as someone else comes in and takes their money and/or property to give to someone else. It, like Ancient Athenian Democracy ends up becoming a dictatorship as shown by Venezuela. Their Socialist form of economy began in the 1950s and continued being exacerbated until now.
No, I am encouraging people to learn and then use labels properly. Think about that. What would be my motivation to 'bait and switch'?
Socialism is an economic system at its core, but it of course would be part of a socio-economic/political system.
True. Statism is " A political system in which the state has substantial centralized control over social and economic affairs. ". (Oxford)
But that does not apply to Venezuela, eh?
That is Statism (at least the government part; the society part would be tyranny of the majority) engaging in the practice of redistribution of wealth. Your definition does not even touch on the underlying economic system. Socialism, when the label is used properly, is based on distributed economic control and the need for the demos to be more active and involved in the economic (and other) affairs of their lives. In contrast to capitalism where economic control is held by a minority, under socialism it is held by the demos. In theory of course.
Of course it will. What you call 'socialism' is an authoritative State expropriating private property and engaging in a command economy. That is an entirely crappy system. We agree on the assessment of such a system. The problem is the labeling. The word 'socialism' actually means something entirely different from how it is commonly used. Socialism is commonly used as a pejorative for any system that is bad. The term is so overloaded it has lost its meaning.
And look at what you just did. You actually tried to argue that Venezuela is not Statism. You apparently are compelled to employ the pejorative usage of 'socialism' - a term that even in pejorative usage has conflicted meaning - and inexplicably argue against using a term that is well-defined and appropriate for the circumstances.
And then, backing up to your definition of 'socialism':
That is the definition for redistribution of wealth , not socialism. Why use 'socialism' rather than a well-defined term that clearly expresses your meaning?
Finally, when you call things 'socialism' you make your comments vague and contradictory. People use the label 'socialism' to mean everything from a government that provides public services (every government then would be socialist) to a brutal authoritarian command economy. The unqualified term is overloaded and rendered meaningless.
Well if you simply label it 'socialism' you have not provided any information. If you instead call it 'redistribution of wealth' or 'statism' or 'social democracy' or whatever well-defined term expresses your thought, then your audience will know what you are saying.
( 'you' in the above is generic )
If you had a big tub full of water and heated to a roiling boil, sitting in it will cook and kill you. But if you heat it to just the right temperature, say right around 102-105 degrees Fahrenheit, it's an enjoyable, beneficial and relaxing hot tub.
If somehow a super majority of Americans and their legislators voted for total take over of the production, distribution and exchange of American goods and services, then you would have that boiling water to be very afraid of, the kind of socialism that cooks and kills innovation and eventually a nation. But that is NEVER going to happen in America. There are simply too many checks and balances for us to tip completely into either pure fascism or pure socialism. Sure we wiggle back and forth leaning in one direction or the other at times, currently listing towards fascism with an authoritarian leader who believes he's above the law, and in response we have the young socialists pushing the other direction.
Neither will be able to win this tug of war, and that is a good thing, because America is stronger when we don't allow ourselves to be completely under the thumb of any one "ism". America is a melting pot of not only races, cultures and faiths but also of political ideologies and nationalist traditions and we are stronger for it.
"Do we continue on the path to providing everything to everyone without thought to the costs and eventually have the system collapse as it is doing in Venezuela"
We are not going down the Venezuela path. They are an extremely new and volatile nation with a current political ideology younger than my second marriage. They've gone through dozens of different hands and political regimes over the last 200 years. To claim our 240+ year political experiment is somehow leading us down a similar path is frankly ridiculous. Even our own social security program is four times older than the current socialist regime in Venezuela.
"I prefer to return to the independence and self-reliance of the pioneers; but I will take advantage of the Socialism we currently have."
As fun as pooping in a dirt hole sounds, I'd much prefer our collectively owned and managed sewer system and other essential utilities we agreed as a society benefit everyone and thus should be funded by everyone. Not having buckets of crap thrown out windows into our streets as was once done in some places (mostly Europe but we saw it here too in early America) which keeps down sickness and disease is beneficial for all of us, regardless of whether you want to pitch in for the sewer or not or prefer crapping in the woods.
So really the debate, the issue, the crux is not about whether to have any socialism, it's about how hot we want the tub. Those against any and all socialism scream warnings as the temperature rises slightly, to them it's a signal that at any moment it might become a socialist boil. But that isn't realistic, America is so far from socialism it's a tepid warm bath, not a hot tub. We have just enough socialism to barely keep our elderly and poor from dying in the streets while the top 1% own over 90% of all the wealth in America. It's like a tub with 80 degree water in it when some say "Hey, shouldn't we heat this up a bit? Shouldn't we invest more in our children's educations? Shouldn't we tax the top 1% a little more than we are considering they are doing really well with the protections provided them by our very expensive military?" and the response is "Hell no! This warm water could boil us all alive if we started giving away free educations! It would cook and kill any innovation if you started taxing the top 1% more than the bottom 99% of Americans! Arghhh! You're evil for even suggesting the top 1% should pay more! You socialist!"...
Who are these people? They are people who are more hateful of one man, our president, that it matters not that he wants to protect babies or stop human trafficking or eradicate AIDS. I'll tell you who they are. They are people who don't care about us. They only care about power and making sure that they keep it.
And all this time I thought judges avoided sensationalism!
I am not hateful of President Donald Trump. I have no confidence in him. Once a person reaches that base level with me, I take the things they say (and mostly likely their actions too) with a 'pinch of salt.' Do not forget, President Trump is a proven liar. Moreover, he is presently demonstrating this practice: He giveth with one hand while taking away with the other!
It is not my, our, fault that Judge Pirro can not see pass what is good for her bottom-line, to help others deal with their own!
She’s a former judge and she is spot on in all that she said.
Define, "former judge," please. Authentic judges are true to their profession oath, even as a private citizen, until death in my opinion. Being a so-callled "star" so obviously tilted to one side —that side which gives you a one-hour network show does not mean a respected individual should choose propaganda over professional and self-respect.
When JUDGE Pirro takes the same care with her measurements of the lying words which freshly utter from our sitting president's heart and mouth; when she calls him out once and again for being labled "liar" on a daily basis. When she can let it be seen that she distinct from the lies Donald Trump takes great satisfaction in spouting. Perhaps, her judgement can be considered on the mend.
Some have become so remarkably comfortable with President Donald J. Trump's ability to deal in lies that I get a picture of these folks 'bathing' in his lies. Trump actually looks forward to telling his followers lies! Now tell me, what kind of leader aspires to have millions of enthralled and delusional attendees to his or her every word?
What kind of leader, "Keep America Great!"?
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