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US hate groups have seen ideas enter mainstream in Trump era, report finds

  

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US hate groups have seen ideas enter mainstream in Trump era, report finds

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US hate groups have seen ideas enter mainstream in Trump era, report finds



e497f140-2474-11e9-bb7e-d3a95f2cbb6c   Jason Wilson, The Guardian   21 hours ago  






Southern Poverty Law Center report shows an all-time high in hate groups since they began counting, beating the previous record in 2011

86a64cf0b441b26283d016075ff2e61c Gavin McInnes, founder of the far-right group Proud Boys, in Berkeley, California on 27 April 2017.   Photograph: Marcio José Sánchez/AP

A new report from the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) says that hate groups in the US have continued to surge in the Trump era, and that the president himself has helped to mainstream hate by “fueling fears of a white minority country”.

The Alabama-based SPLC – one of the most long-standing and widely-cited anti-hate organizations – counted 1,020 hate groups in the United States in 2018, up 7% from the previous year.

This represented an all-time high since the SPLC began counting hate groups, beating the previous record in 2011, when the far right’s angry reaction to the Obama presidency was peaking.

In a press conference, Heidi Beirich, the director of the SPLC’s Intelligence Project blamed in part the “words and imagery coming out of the Trump administration” which have been “heightening the fears” of demographic replacement.

The report points to a range of murders and violent attacks – like a mail-bombing spree that targeted Democrats and media organisations and a mass shooting at a Pittsburgh synagogue – as evidence that the conspiracy-fueled far right is increasingly willing to commit extreme acts.

Another similar   recent report   from the Anti-Defamation League suggested that extremist murders in the United States in 2018 were carried out almost exclusively by the far right.

But the SPLC also points to the increasingly strident expression of far right ideas in conservative media, and from Republican politicians, as evidence that hate is being mainstreamed.


One example is Donald Trump’s apparent adoption of the cause of white South African farmers in 2018. The report also discusses how Fox News hosts such as Tucker Carlson and Laura Ingraham have seized on the idea that white people will be demographically replaced in the United States by a wave of immigrants. Both of these themes are regularly pushed by white nationalists.

Though the report surveys a wide range of hate groups – from the antigovernment “patriot” movement to antisemitic black nationalist groups – it drew particular attention to two developments in 2018.

The first is the explosive growth in white nationalist groups. While longstanding white supremacist movements like the Klu Klux Klan have continued to dwindle, newer styles of internet-savvy white organizations have grown explosively. The 148 groups of this type identified by the SPLC represent a 50% increase on 2017.

White nationalist groups like Identity Evropa have been prominently involved in a wave of flyer distribution, which has escaped its former confines on college campuses and into the “public domain”. The level of flying and related actions, like banner drops, has been “unprecedented” according to the SPLC.

The second area of extensive growth has been in the catch-all category of “general hate”. That growth is largely as a result of the growth of the “western chauvinist” group, the Proud Boys, who the SPLC says now have 44 chapters in 31 states.

It describes the Proud Boys’ attendance at frequently violent street rallies as “the most relentless campaign of rightwing street violence in recent memory”.

The Proud Boys have recently cemented their links with people in high levels of the Republican party. Last week, Proud Boys chairman Enrique Tarrio was given   pride of place   at a Trump rally in Miami. The month before, Tarrio was a   prominent visitor   to Roger Stone in the wake of his arrest by the FBI. Stone himself has been frequently photographed with Proud Boys, and the Proud Boys often flourish a   video   of stone apparently being initiated in some way into the group.

The SPLC’s description of the group in these terms comes in the face of a lawsuit launched by founder Gavin McInnes against the organization earlier this month. McInnes’s suit is one of a number launched by rightwing figures who object to the SPLC’s classification or monitoring of their activities.

Asked about the lawsuits pending against the SPLC by McInnes and the Center for Immigration Studies, Beirich said: “We stand by our hate group listings”.

Repeatedly, Trump himself is singled out by the SPLC report, and his Twitter account in particular is nominated for pushing “noxious anti-immigrant and anti-Muslim views”.

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Tessylo
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1  seeder  Tessylo    5 years ago

A new report from the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) says that hate groups in the US have continued to surge in the Trump era, and that the president himself has helped to mainstream hate by “fueling fears of a white minority country”.

The Alabama-based SPLC – one of the most long-standing and widely-cited anti-hate organizations – counted 1,020 hate groups in the United States in 2018, up 7% from the previous year.

This represented an all-time high since the SPLC began counting hate groups, beating the previous record in 2011, when the far right’s angry reaction to the Obama presidency was peaking.

In a press conference, Heidi Beirich, the director of the SPLC’s Intelligence Project blamed in part the “words and imagery coming out of the Trump administration” which have been “heightening the fears” of demographic replacement.

The report points to a range of murders and violent attacks – like a mail-bombing spree that targeted Democrats and media organisations and a mass shooting at a Pittsburgh synagogue – as evidence that the conspiracy-fueled far right is increasingly willing to commit extreme acts.

Another similar   recent report   from the Anti-Defamation League suggested that extremist murders in the United States in 2018 were carried out almost exclusively by the far right.

But the SPLC also points to the increasingly strident expression of far right ideas in conservative media, and from Republican politicians, as evidence that hate is being mainstreamed.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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1.1  XXJefferson51  replied to  Tessylo @1    5 years ago

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Tessylo
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1.1.1  seeder  Tessylo  replied to  XXJefferson51 @1.1    5 years ago

removed for context

 
 
 
The Magic 8 Ball
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2  The Magic 8 Ball    5 years ago
 with beliefs or practices that demonize a class of people.

today's left has been trying to demonize the right for the last 10yrs straight.

did not work under obama and will not work under trump either.

A new report from the Southern Poverty Law Center 

the splc has become nothing more than a leftwing mouthpiece... they get no respect anymore.

 

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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2.1  Ozzwald  replied to  The Magic 8 Ball @2    5 years ago

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Split Personality
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2.3  Split Personality  replied to  The Magic 8 Ball @2    5 years ago
today's left has been trying to demonize the right for the last 10yrs straight. did not work under obama and will not work under trump either.

Wow,

I am certain that Joe McCarthy did not invent dirty, no holds barred politics,

he just tried to take it to new depths.

He was eventually shut down and defeated, but not until hundreds had suffered and democracy itself was injured.

Then after many years of at least, after hours comity under Tip O'Neil, along came Newt Gingrich to make politics personal again, no trick too low if the ends justifies the means.

Dave Obey: It’s too bad because he’s a very able person. He’s one of the brightest people I’ve ever known, and one of the most imaginative. The problem is, though, that very often that imagination turns into fantasyland. And he has this tendency, when he wants to defeat somebody politically, to attack their patriotism, to attack their sense of Americanism. He did more than anybody except Joe McCarthy in my lifetime to denigrate the political dialogue and to degrade it. When he came to the Congress in 1978, he started running classes to teach people how to tear down their opponents personally, not just politically. They published bulletins called “How to Talk Like Newt,” and they urged people to use words like “festering,” “decay,” and “sick” in order to undermine the political opposition. That borders on McCarthyism, and it doesn’t do the democratic system any good.

Now we have Roger Stone and Paul Manafort doing anything for their 30 pieces of silver,

but it's the left demonizing the right?

Well OK, if YOU say so............./s

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.3.1  XXJefferson51  replied to  Split Personality @2.3    5 years ago

It is exactly that.  The left trying to marginalize and demonize the right.  Now they use the msm and it’s so called fact checkers to do exactly that.  

 
 
 
evilone
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2.3.2  evilone  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.3.1    5 years ago
The left trying to marginalize and demonize the right.

Perhaps the left is following Ephrasians 5:11?

And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.
 
 
 
Ozzwald
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2.3.3  Ozzwald  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.3.1    5 years ago
Now they use the msm and it’s so called fact checkers to do exactly that.  

If only you could convince the fact checkers to use only your "alternative facts", you wouldn't have those problems.

 
 
 
Don Overton
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2.4  Don Overton  replied to  The Magic 8 Ball @2    5 years ago

Sure they have.  Try again.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.4.1  XXJefferson51  replied to  Don Overton @2.4    5 years ago

The SPLC is actually worse than he described.  They are actually evil. 

 
 
 
Dulay
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2.4.2  Dulay  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.4.1    5 years ago
The SPLC is actually worse than he described. They are actually evil.

EXACTLY! The SPLC broke the back of the KKK. The HORROR! /s

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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2.5  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  The Magic 8 Ball @2    5 years ago

Proud Boys are definitely a right wing hate group that should be recognized as such. But why no mention of leftist groups like Antifa?

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2.5.1  seeder  Tessylo  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @2.5    5 years ago

Because anti-fa is not a hate group

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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2.5.2  Ozzwald  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @2.5    5 years ago
But why no mention of leftist groups like Antifa?

Antifa is a made up label so that right wing hate groups can point to the left as a comparative distraction.

  • Antifa - No meetings.
  • Antifa - No membership.
  • Antifa - No leaders.
  • Antifa - Did not exist in modern times, prior to Charlottesville.

Any illegal activity by left leaners is being pointed at and blamed on Antifa, trying to provide a group to compare to white supremacists.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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2.5.3  Trout Giggles  replied to  Ozzwald @2.5.2    5 years ago
  • Antifa - No meetings.
  • Antifa - No membership.
  • Antifa - No leaders.

In other words....herding cats

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.5.4  XXJefferson51  replied to  Tessylo @2.5.1    5 years ago

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Ozzwald
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2.5.5  Ozzwald  replied to  Trout Giggles @2.5.3    5 years ago

In other words....herding cats

In other words, finding a herd of cats and calling them names.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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2.5.6  Trout Giggles  replied to  Ozzwald @2.5.5    5 years ago

LOL...kinda 

You know how they say certain groups are like herding cats because there's no real direction or leadership

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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2.5.7  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Tessylo @2.5.1    5 years ago

BS deflection!

 
 
 
Dulay
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2.5.8  Dulay  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @2.5.7    5 years ago

Stating a fact isn't a deflection Ed. 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.6  XXJefferson51  replied to  The Magic 8 Ball @2    5 years ago

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Dulay
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2.7  Dulay  replied to  The Magic 8 Ball @2    5 years ago
with beliefs or practices that demonize a class of people.

Where did that block quote come from? 

today's left has been trying to demonize the right for the last 10yrs straight. did not work under obama and will not work under trump either.

The topic of the seed is violent extremism. Try to keep up. 

the splc has become nothing more than a leftwing mouthpiece... they get no respect anymore.

They get plenty of respect, just not from you and yours. 

BTFW, what say you about the ADL? Their report is linked in the seed and is very damning. Care to comment on that report? 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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3  Trout Giggles    5 years ago

The Proud Boys are the Brown Shirts of the White Nationalists

 
 
 
lady in black
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4  lady in black    5 years ago

They are crawling out of the wood work due to the asshole in the White House.  

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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4.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  lady in black @4    5 years ago

It's become fashionable to be a white supremacist again

 
 
 
Dean Moriarty
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4.2  Dean Moriarty  replied to  lady in black @4    5 years ago

That's what the deep state MSM wants you to believe. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
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4.2.1  seeder  Tessylo  replied to  Dean Moriarty @4.2    5 years ago

So the main stream media is part of the deep state?  Really?  

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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4.2.2  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Dean Moriarty @4.2    5 years ago
That's what the deep state MSM what's you to believe. 

What to believe? Do I go with the never been seen, never been quantified fantasy "Deep State"? Or do I believe my lyin' eyes that watched the Nazi's, KKK and white supremacists march around carrying tiki torches, waving swastikas and confederate flags, wearing MAGA hats and chanting "Jews will not replace us!". Do I believe the tens of thousands of photo evidence of white supremacists in America today that just takes a quick Google images search? When I type in "Deep State" in images all I get are hundreds of fantasy posters done up by conspiracy theorists. So yeah, I think I'll keep believing in reality even though its filled with a bunch of fucking fascist Nazis and white nationalists.

 
 
 
lady in black
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4.2.3  lady in black  replied to  Dean Moriarty @4.2    5 years ago

No, it's the truth.  There is no deep state, that's tinfoil hat talk.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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4.2.4  Split Personality  replied to  lady in black @4.2.3    5 years ago

384

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
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4.2.5  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @4.2.2    5 years ago
So yeah, I think I'll keep believing in reality even though its filled with a bunch of fucking fascist Nazis and white nationalists.

Some prefer the 'Deep State' of 'Denial', where they can immerse themselves in whichever whatever faux fax can get them by, and help them relax.

.

i do however, believe that there could be such a thing as a deep state , though not one as stated, by the 'deep thinkers' , around these parts

 
 
 
Tessylo
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4.2.6  seeder  Tessylo  replied to  Split Personality @4.2.4    5 years ago

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They look more like Hershey's kisses.  

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
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4.2.7  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Tessylo @4.2.6    5 years ago
They look more like Hershey's kisses

i see, that in keeping on your seeded articles theme,

White Chocolate Hershey's Kisses were used to Foil the plans of those attempting reception via rabid ears of non-ferrous heavy metals, rocking the boat loads of ignorance, rocking these seeds, planted.

 
 
 
Don Overton
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4.2.8  Don Overton  replied to  Dean Moriarty @4.2    5 years ago

How do you know?  Oh wait, that's an opinion with no factual content.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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4.2.9  XXJefferson51  replied to  Tessylo @4.2.1    5 years ago

You bet it is and so are ALL of their fact checkers and keepers.  The SPLC targets as hate all groups who resist the deep state.  

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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4.2.10  XXJefferson51  replied to  Don Overton @4.2.8    5 years ago

That is the literal description of the seeded article.  

 
 
 
Dean Moriarty
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4.2.11  Dean Moriarty  replied to  lady in black @4.2.3    5 years ago

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Trout Giggles
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4.2.12  Trout Giggles  replied to  Dean Moriarty @4.2.11    5 years ago

oh, please. That guy has no credibility at all

 
 
 
lady in black
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4.2.14  lady in black  replied to  Dean Moriarty @4.2.11    5 years ago

He's not credible at all....there is no deep state, only dimwits who believe it.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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4.2.15  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  lady in black @4.2.14    5 years ago
He's not credible at all....there is no deep state, only dimwits who believe it.

Basically to Snowden, anyone above him in seniority was the "Deep State".

"I have a boss and he tells me what to do! Fucking Deep State!"...

 
 
 
Dulay
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4.2.16  Dulay  replied to  Dean Moriarty @4.2    5 years ago
That's what the deep state MSM wants you to believe.

Did the 'deep state MSM' fabricate the data in the ADL report too Dean? 

 
 
 
Tessylo
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4.2.17  seeder  Tessylo  replied to  Release The Kraken @4.2.13    5 years ago

I don't appreciate you going off topic on my seed.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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4.2.18  XXJefferson51  replied to  Tessylo @4.2.1    5 years ago

It’s allied with it for sure.  The msm is more vile than the deep state because it perpetuates the deep state.  

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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4.2.19  XXJefferson51  replied to  Trout Giggles @4.2.12    5 years ago

Of course he does. 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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4.2.20  XXJefferson51  replied to  Tessylo @4.2.17    5 years ago

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Dulay
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4.2.21  Dulay  replied to  XXJefferson51 @4.2.18    5 years ago

WOW, you should contact 21st Century Fox and complain. Maybe Rupert Murdoc will tell Hannity to knock it off. 

 
 
 
Enoch
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4.2.22  Enoch  replied to  Tessylo @4.2.6    5 years ago

In Paris, do they have Hershey's French kisses?

 
 
 
arkpdx
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4.2.23  arkpdx  replied to  Enoch @4.2.22    5 years ago

They are tongue shaped 

 
 
 
Enoch
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4.2.24  Enoch  replied to  arkpdx @4.2.23    5 years ago

LOL!

Good one.

E.

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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4.2.25  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  Tessylo @4.2.1    5 years ago

So the main stream media is part of the deep state?

That is news!  Next thing you know, the Deep State will be delivering pizza.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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4.3  seeder  Tessylo  replied to  lady in black @4    5 years ago
'They are crawling out of the wood work due to the asshole in the White House.'

They crawled out of the turd in chief's asshole.  

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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5  JohnRussell    5 years ago

During the 2016 election Trump retweeted white supremacists numerous times. His spokesmen said he did it by accident.

His political stance and white supremacist aspirations are peas in a pod.

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
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5.1  igknorantzrulz  replied to  JohnRussell @5    5 years ago
His political stance and white supremacist aspirations are peas in a pod.

n ,  we've all heard of Trump's fondness for p's

.

it is so obvious, yet the deniers are out and about, as usual.

Trumpp, and the far right, have been using the fears of the vast fastly shrinking majority , to 

fear any an all a minority.

Insecurities are working, and it is a sad reflection on and about, our once great country.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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6  Sean Treacy    5 years ago

It’s true. The SPLC a hate group that makes millions scamming gullible liberals, gets way too much public exposure,

 
 
 
JBB
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6.1  JBB  replied to  Sean Treacy @6    5 years ago

That is not true but it is what we've come to expect from the pro-hate crowd.

The SPLC identifies, tracks, monitors and certifies verified legit hate groups...

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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6.1.2  XXJefferson51  replied to  JBB @6.1    5 years ago

The SPLC is a terrorist inspiring hate group that cons it’s true believers out of their money and targets its ideological opposition with hate.  There is nothing good about the SPLC.  They are a fund raising scam to personally enrich its corrupt founder and his friends.  

 
 
 
Dulay
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6.1.3  Dulay  replied to  XXJefferson51 @6.1.2    5 years ago

Hey, they're suing Trump on multiple fronts. Where do I donate...

 
 
 
Dulay
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6.2  Dulay  replied to  Sean Treacy @6    5 years ago

Then address the ADL report Sean. Or do you consider that Anti-Defamation League a hate group too? 

 
 
 
FLYNAVY1
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6.3  FLYNAVY1  replied to  Sean Treacy @6    5 years ago
So are you considering a lifetime subscription to Breitbart Sean?

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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6.3.1  XXJefferson51  replied to  FLYNAVY1 @6.3    5 years ago

Breitbart is a great organization and I’m proud to be openly allied with it and all it stands for here. A lifetime membership subscription would be a high honor.  Three cheers for Breitbart!  

 
 
 
Tessylo
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6.3.2  seeder  Tessylo  replied to  XXJefferson51 @6.3.1    5 years ago

Breitfart

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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6.3.3  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  XXJefferson51 @6.3.1    5 years ago

Breitbart is a great organization

Apparently your God didn’t agree, judging by how he snuffed out the founder.  Or was that just another deep state hit job?  Mysterious ways ...

 
 
 
FLYNAVY1
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6.3.4  FLYNAVY1  replied to  FLYNAVY1 @6.3    5 years ago

If there was only a Darwin Award for fictional news sources such as Breitbart....

 
 
 
Dulay
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6.3.5  Dulay  replied to  FLYNAVY1 @6.3.4    5 years ago

The Mercer family creates a protective environment and keeps Breitbart and Bannon [he still lives in their headquarters] afloat and pumping out propaganda. 

 
 
 
FLYNAVY1
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6.3.6  FLYNAVY1  replied to  Dulay @6.3.5    5 years ago

Another bunch empowered by horrid Citizens United decision to cement the American Oligarchs......

 
 
 
Tessylo
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6.3.7  seeder  Tessylo  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @6.3.3    5 years ago
'Apparently your God didn’t agree, judging by how he snuffed out the founder.  Or was that just another deep state hit job?  Mysterious ways ...'

It must have been the Clintons!

 
 
 
bbl-1
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7  bbl-1    5 years ago

Hate Groups?  Mainstream Media?  Limbaugh, Levin make $60+ million a year.  Hannity, $43 million.  Something is making those investments.

Deep State is real and it is serious.  Spawned in Putin's Russia and dropped here.  Latest Product:  Coast Guard Lt. Christopher P. Hassom.

 
 
 
Dulay
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8  Dulay    5 years ago

So to recap, NONE of the conservatives here have the intestinal fortitude to address the FACTS as documented in the reports talked about in the seed. I note that while they jump on one of the sources, the SPLC [their favorite whipping boy] they avoid addressing the linked ADL report, which BTFW, bolsters the findings by the SPLC. 

The claims are all about 'deep state' conspiracies, SPLC 'terrorism' and 'demonizing of the right' without a WORD about the ACTUAL data in the reports.

The shinny object deflection on the 'right' continues to be the go to reaction to the REAL TIME documentation of the effects of RW extremism in the US.

I hope that at least the rest of us will READ the reports and use the data therein to help us to counter those effects. We ignore the issue at our own peril.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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9  Vic Eldred    5 years ago

Hum.....A Southern Poverty Law Center Report says it?  


Question: Does the fact that agencies reporting hate crimes for the first time create the false impression that there is an increase in such crimes?

"The FBI notes, however, the number of law enforcement agencies reporting the crimes also increased, with about 1,000 additional agencies contributing data. 

 
 
 
Dulay
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9.1  Dulay  replied to  Vic Eldred @9    5 years ago
Hum.....A Southern Poverty Law Center Report says it?

Yes and the report has NOTHING to do with reporting 'hate crimes'. 

Thanks for playing. 

 
 
 
bugsy
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9.1.1  bugsy  replied to  Dulay @9.1    5 years ago

Well, it kinda does, seeing the SPLC receives their data from law enforcement agencies.

More agencies reporting, probably more crimes reported.

I wonder how many of them were hoaxes that did not get national attention, unlike the Smollett thing and these...

These are nowhere near the real number of them.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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9.1.2  Vic Eldred  replied to  Dulay @9.1    5 years ago

' The report points to a range of murders and violent attacks"

It's right in the article. BTW, I think we have discussed the SPLC before. Marc Thiessen wrote a brilliant Column on them:

"The SPLC is a once-storied organization that did important work filing civil rights lawsuits against the Ku Klux Klan in the 1970s. But it has become a caricature of itself, labeling virtually anyone who does not fall in line with its left-wing ideology an “extremist” or “hate group.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-southern-poverty-law-center-has-lost-all-credibility/2018/06/21/22ab7d60-756d-11e8-9780-b1dd6a09b549_story.html?utm_term=.0967d5868a8b

They have no credibility and as far as I'm concerned THEY ARE A HATE GROUP!


As always, It's been a pleasure

 
 
 
Dulay
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9.1.3  Dulay  replied to  bugsy @9.1.1    5 years ago
Well, it kinda does, seeing the SPLC receives their data from law enforcement agencies. More agencies reporting, probably more crimes reported.

So that's 2 of you that don't know the difference between the terms 'hate crime' and 'hate group'. 

 
 
 
Dulay
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9.1.4  Dulay  replied to  Vic Eldred @9.1.2    5 years ago
The report points to a range of murders and violent attacks"

Which report Vic. 

Marc Thiessen wrote a brilliant Column on them:

Marc Thiessen, the 'brilliant' writer that is a torture apologist? That guy is a hack. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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9.1.5  Vic Eldred  replied to  Dulay @9.1.4    5 years ago
Which report Vic.

The one we are discussing.

Marc Thiessen, the 'brilliant' writer that is a torture apologist?

torture?  Are you referring to what Allen Dulles would call enhanced interrogation?

 
 
 
Dulay
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9.1.6  Dulay  replied to  Vic Eldred @9.1.5    5 years ago
The one we are discussing.

Since you seem incapable of making yourself clear, I'll just presume that you are talking about the report YOU linked. 

That report is about hate crimes, NOT hate groups. 

Many hate CRIMES are perpetrated by individuals unaffiliated with a hate GROUP. Think Dylan Roof. 

torture? Are you referring to what Allen Dulles would call enhanced interrogation?

I'm referring to torture as defined by the Geneva convention to which the US is a signatory and for which we have supported  the execution of people for perpetrating. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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9.1.7  Vic Eldred  replied to  Dulay @9.1.6    5 years ago
I'll just presume that you are talking about the report YOU linked. 

Assume away.....I used the exact text from THIS article.


I'm referring to torture as defined by the Geneva convention 

Can you be specific?

 
 
 
Dulay
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9.1.8  Dulay  replied to  Vic Eldred @9.1.7    5 years ago

You're wasting my time as usual Vic. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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9.1.9  Vic Eldred  replied to  Dulay @9.1.8    5 years ago

Surely the Geneva Convention spells out what is torture and what isn't.  Is "waterboarding" specifically mentioned?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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9.1.10  Vic Eldred  replied to  Vic Eldred @9.1.9    5 years ago

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bugsy
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9.1.11  bugsy  replied to  Dulay @9.1.3    5 years ago
So that's 2 of you that don't know the difference between the terms 'hate crime' and 'hate group'. 

Um, apparently you are the one that does not know the difference between the two, being your 9.1 specifically stated "hate crimes", and that is what I responded to.

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Dulay
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9.1.12  Dulay  replied to  bugsy @9.1.11    5 years ago
being your 9.1 specifically stated "hate crimes", and that is what I responded to.

Yes, it specifically stated 'hate crimes' in THIS context:

Yes and the report has NOTHING to do with reporting 'hate crimes'. 

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bugsy
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9.1.13  bugsy  replied to  Dulay @9.1.12    5 years ago

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9.1.14  Dulay  replied to  bugsy @9.1.13    5 years ago

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9.1.15  bugsy  replied to  Dulay @9.1.14    5 years ago

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9.1.16  seeder  Tessylo  replied to  bugsy @9.1.15    5 years ago

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