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Michael Cohen's bombshell opening statement to Congress accuses Trump of knowing in advance that wikileaks was going to release clinton emails

  

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Via:  john-russell  •  5 years ago  •  178 comments

Michael Cohen's bombshell opening statement to Congress accuses Trump of knowing in advance that wikileaks was going to release clinton emails

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Donald Trump 's former fixer details in a 20-page statement his regret at working for the now president for a decade - and provides a draw-dropping account of lies, cheating, racism and possible criminality.

read the statement  -  https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6751705/Read-Michael-Cohens-bombshell-opening-statement-Congress.html



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JohnRussell
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1  seeder  JohnRussell    5 years ago

Given all we know about Trump from other sources , and from his own mouth, of course Cohen is believable.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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1.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @1    5 years ago

So Trump didn't collude with Russia, if you believe Cohen, is what you are trying to say.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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1.1.1  Ozzwald  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.1    5 years ago

So Trump didn't collude with Russia, if you believe Cohen, is what you are trying to say.

Wow, you got all that just from his opening statement for 1 day (of 3) of testimony?

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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1.1.2  Sean Treacy  replied to  Ozzwald @1.1.1    5 years ago

That's the implication of the "bombshell" highlighted above yes.  

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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1.1.3  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.1.2    5 years ago

Nothing more than a sleaze ball lawyer doing and saying everything he can think of to try to save his own hide from a long prison sentance. Just take a look at his past background...

 
 
 
cjcold
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1.1.4  cjcold  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @1.1.3    5 years ago

His background is as Trump's dirty tricks fixer. What's that say about Trump?

Cohen knows where all of Trump's bodies are buried. Now so does Mueller.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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1.1.5  Trout Giggles  replied to  cjcold @1.1.4    5 years ago
His background is as Trump's dirty tricks fixer. What's that say about Trump?

That if you don't commit dirty tricks why would you need a fixer?

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
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1.1.6  igknorantzrulz  replied to  cjcold @1.1.4    5 years ago
What's that say about Trump?

that many of Trumpp's dirty tricks were flimsy flamsy, and would often break down, thus requiring a fixer, a mechanic of sorts, who fixed the disablement of little playmates, cooler

than hot Porno, girls gone wild, in urban situations, all across our nations 

ethics & morals, that seems we can't see in our own GOP, as they continue to defend the sleaze ball that requires a sleaze ball to clean up and fix, his dirty habit of paying women for trix, while performing, like a three ring circus clown, without a well read knows,

just a lot of   and hows,   as he is constantly bent over like they   and not for bows    or just because Putin is really gay.

the GOP is as sleazy as they, and has hypocritical members, 

who aren't asz happy    about it,     so    what does that say     about the current   hearing

GOP             Gay Government Goobers    On    Parade         Raging       BullS hit  on Parade

"Rally round the family with a pocket full of shells" "Bulls on Parade"    exclaiming that obviously

the Republicans should and need to get laid                         instead of 

.

fucking all of US Americans

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
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1.1.8  igknorantzrulz  replied to    5 years ago
They have made their bed and they choose to share it with this guy?

the GOP, or the poor women  ?

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
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1.1.10  igknorantzrulz  replied to    5 years ago
...perhaps a discreet reach around Jupiter.

at least it's not mine

or 

Uranus.

Guy sounds pretty damn believable to me.

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
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1.1.12  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  Ozzwald @1.1.1    5 years ago

Wow, you got all that just from his opening statement for 1 day (of 3) of testimony?

No. He got all that from that place where the sun don't shine.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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1.1.13  Ozzwald  replied to  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו @1.1.12    5 years ago
No. He got all that from that place where the sun don't shine.

Yeah, my thoughts exactly.  Conspiracy (collusion) and obstruction have already been shown, just because there are no indictments on Trump is meaningless.  Trump has already been declared as an unindicted co-conspirator in one case.

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
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1.1.14  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @1.1.3    5 years ago
Nothing more than a sleaze ball lawyer doing and saying everything he can think of to try to save his own hide from a long prison sentance.

Every sleazeball lawyer has a bigger sleazeball for a client and in Cohen's case that would be your Scumbag, "doc." 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.3  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @1    5 years ago
of course Cohen is believable.

So, Do you believe everything Cohen says or just when it bolsters your biased views. He said he had no knowledge of collusion AND has never been to Prague - disproving a major claim of the Steele Dossier!

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.3.2  Vic Eldred  replied to    5 years ago

Some like to pick and choose. I'll give a little credit to CNN. At the hearing's first break, Dana Bash immediately called out the Cohen statement that "he didn't want a job in the administration".....New lie #1

It dosen't matter. Right now the democrats in the House are marching toward "impeachment" and a political disaster in 2020!

 
 
 
Raven Wing
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1.3.3  Raven Wing  replied to    5 years ago
Trying to find truth in Cohen's testimony is like trying to nail jello to the wall

Trying to find truth in anything Trump says is like trying to find Santa Claus in the North Pole.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.3.4  Vic Eldred  replied to  Raven Wing @1.3.3    5 years ago

He was 100% right about Cohen.

" Though he said  Cohen lied "a lot,"  the president also noted "he said no collusion." "I was a little impressed by that quite frankly. He could have gone all out. He went about 95 percent instead of 100 percent," Mr. Trump told reporters in Hanoi."


 
 
 
Raven Wing
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1.3.5  Raven Wing  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.3.4    5 years ago

Trump would say anything that would make him look good. Anything. And Trumps adoring followers will believe and defend anything he says, no matter how big a lie it is. Case in point/ Whast he said in Hanoi was nothing more than low-level showmanship, which he is a pro at.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.3.6  Vic Eldred  replied to  Raven Wing @1.3.5    5 years ago

You are referring to what?

 
 
 
JBB
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2  JBB    5 years ago

If you needed more evidence of Trump's Russia collusion, look no further...

 
 
 
Texan1211
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2.1  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @2    5 years ago

Please explain how someone calling someone on the phone and announcing something imminent is collusion.

 
 
 
JBB
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2.1.1  JBB  replied to  Texan1211 @2.1    5 years ago

Since you plainly still do not get it, knowing of a crime beforehand, especially a crime as serious as Russian State Intelligences Services illegally hacking The Democratic National Committee and the Democratic Nominee for President of the United States mere days before our US Presidential election to the exclusive benefit of the gop and Donald TRUMP, and not then immediately reporting that information to the FBI and other law enforcement agencies is a damnable serious criminal act of the worst order and EVIDENCE OF CRIMINAL COLLUSION AND CONSPIRACY!!!!!

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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2.1.2  Sean Treacy  replied to  JBB @2.1.1    5 years ago

What are you talking about?

Cohen doesn’t claim any of things....

 
 
 
JBB
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2.1.4  JBB  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.1.2    5 years ago

Cohen claims that, in his presence, Roger Stone told Trump that Wikileaks AKA Russian State Intelligence Services was going to illegally hack The DNC and Mrs Clinton before anyone knew about it and that none of them notified our law enforcement.

They should have all immediately notified The FBI, The CIA, The New York Times and anyone else who would listen butt... they did not!

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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2.1.6  Sean Treacy  replied to  JBB @2.1.4    5 years ago
at Wikileaks AKA Russian State Intelligence Services was going to illegally hack The DNC and Mrs Clinton before anyone knew about it and that none of them notified our law enforcement

Read it again...

 
 
 
JBB
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2.1.7  JBB  replied to  Release The Kraken @2.1.5    5 years ago

WRONGO! All that bullshit about the DNC hack being an inside job has long been completely debunked. It turned out that lie was sourced to Russian propaganda, too. It was not a DNC staffer. It was Gussifer 2.0 which we now know was Russian State Intelligence. Now, try to keep up. Knowing in advance about a Goddamn Super Crime such as Vlad Fucking Putin and his agents trying to illegally hack an American political party in order to illegally influence our US national election and then not reporting it to everyone should be nigh onto treasonous in anybody's book...

Whose team are you on? Team USA or Team Putin? History wants to know,

 
 
 
Texan1211
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2.1.8  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @2.1.1    5 years ago

Still not collusion as much as you'd like it to be. And you have to prove that the emails were stolen and that Trump had knowledge BEFORE that phone call. I don't believe Hillary was hacked, unless you are now saying she was, which is news to most of us.

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
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2.1.9  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Texan1211 @2.1.8    5 years ago
Still not collusion as much as you'd like it to be.

Nope, not from this hearing but also not needed, not yet, but it sure is building up Trump as one exemplary example of exquisite excellence, that we would all want our children to emulate, no ?  

 
 
 
Texan1211
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2.1.10  Texan1211  replied to  igknorantzrulz @2.1.9    5 years ago

Wasn't the whole thing supposed to be how Russia and Trump colluded???

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
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2.1.11  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Texan1211 @2.1.10    5 years ago

so you've seen NO EVIDENCE of Trump doing anything 'wrong' in his treatment of Putin and Russia, before, during, and presently...?

199 charges and counting, multiple top tier administrative persons charged already, Trump threatening Mueller, firing Comey and McCabe, intimidating witnesses, incessantly praising and pushing Putin's priorities for all the world to see, etc. etc. etc.

For many, collusion has already been proven.

Never realized how many ostriches resided in America.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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2.1.12  Texan1211  replied to  igknorantzrulz @2.1.11    5 years ago

Never realized how many people are completely ignorant of American law, which has as one of its premises that we are all innocent until proven guilty on a court of law. 

This was supposed to be about collusion--remember?

Where is it? Even Trump's scummy lawyer can't say that.

But hey, don't let the law get in the way of a good rant.

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
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2.1.13  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Texan1211 @2.1.12    5 years ago
don't let the law get in the way of a good rant.

Trump hasn't let the law

get in the way of ANY FCKN THING.

Your thoughts...

it's fine, there is not enough proof for me yet...?

cause that's pretty pathetic Tex

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.1.14  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Release The Kraken @2.1.5    5 years ago
DNC was hacked by a staffer, Julian Assange has alluded to that. The DNC forwent allowing authorities to investigate because they want the false narrative to continue as a political issue. Grant Julian Assange amnesty and he will tell us what happened.

Julian Assange is an associate and puppet of Vladimir Putin.

Your love of conspiracy theories is bursting out into the open.

Assange, who is evidently a hero of yours, tried to destroy the Clinton campaign, and by the results of the election, succeeded.   So, please, no longer make a farce of this forum by pretending to be "non partisan:"  It offends us.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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2.1.15  Texan1211  replied to  igknorantzrulz @2.1.13    5 years ago

I find it FAR less pathetic than people pronouncing someone guilty without a trial.

if you want THAT kind of system, America might not be the best place for you.

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
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2.1.16  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Texan1211 @2.1.15    5 years ago
FAR less pathetic than people pronouncing someone guilty without a trial. if you want THAT kind of system, America might not be the best place for you.

So you pronounce Hillary innocent of ALL those False Charges ?

"America not be the best place for"  ME ???

WTF Tex

Trump is GUILTY of some of the same charges Cohen is going to jail for, yet not indicted, only because he is a sitting POTUS

Stupid Rule 

Tex, don't ever tell me what country is best, as people FUCK UP THE BEST COUNTRY as we type

 
 
 
cjcold
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2.1.17  cjcold  replied to  Texan1211 @2.1.10    5 years ago
Wasn't the whole thing supposed to be how Russia and Trump colluded???

I imagine that money laundering and obstruction of justice will be brought up as well.

I would love to see Trump take the stand and perjure himself repeatedly. He stupidly would.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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2.1.18  Texan1211  replied to  igknorantzrulz @2.1.16    5 years ago
So you pronounce Hillary innocent of ALL those False Charges ?

I didn't pronounce anything about Hillary. What false charges were filed on her?

Trump is GUILTY of some of the same charges Cohen is going to jail for, yet not indicted, only because he is a sitting POTUS

That is merely your opinion.

Tex, don't ever tell me what country is best, as people FUCK UP THE BEST COUNTRY as we type

I didn't. What the heck did YOU read?

 
 
 
Texan1211
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2.1.19  Texan1211  replied to  cjcold @2.1.17    5 years ago
I imagine that money laundering and obstruction of justice will be brought up as well.

That's nice. Imaginations are wonderful things.

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
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2.1.20  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Texan1211 @2.1.18    5 years ago
What the heck did YOU read?

your comments

 
 
 
Texan1211
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2.1.21  Texan1211  replied to  igknorantzrulz @2.1.20    5 years ago
your comments

Then it should be a breeze for you to quote me telling you what the best country is.

Go ahead and do so if you are able.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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2.1.22  Texan1211  replied to  igknorantzrulz @2.1.20    5 years ago

What false charges were brought against Hillary, and by whom?

Did she sue?

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
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2.1.23  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Texan1211 @2.1.21    5 years ago
me telling you what the best country is.

U Want to Fckn Parse words with me Tex ?

Have at it, i highly recommend against it, but i ain't your momma, but if i have to, i'll be your "Huckleberry", and won't even cost you a Fin, a hell of a lot more than that is my simple fee.

"f you want THAT kind of system, America might not be the best place for you."
Thatimpliestome, and

i'm a tad familiar with implications, that i should find a country more suitable to my 'needs'

well, i'm an American Citizen, and i don't like being told what country is best for me by someone too ignorant to figure out what is best for much about anything, especially the direction of OUR COUNTRY, as they defend a Lying POS, also known as the POTUS.

Has Trump Lied in two years, More than any other President...?   Can you answer this honestly, as you carry the water, that broke,  possibly too much for you, as it is placentiful ?

"about Hillary. What false charges were filed on her?"

Well, have you ever commented on Hillary Clinton ?  What are your thoughts on Trey Gowdy and all of those gone NO WHERE Benghazi investigations ?  Do you believe she sold Uranium reserves to Russia, killed Vince Foster, fathered alien children while yodeling in canyons, while doing the back stroke on Mrs. Weiners front, also known as a C where this is going Tex,

cause i'm starting to get going hear, cause if you can't i'll spell it wrong even better for ya, 

.

as i believe you know exactly what my words stated meant, so if you go  figuring what i alliterationly right on almost all OKasions, is OK  

proceed, N things will go that way            i'm fine with N E Coarse    or misdirection  u wish to steer yourBS, but my beef chief, is simple.

I'm sick of this lying POS disgracing our country, as all should be.  A country built on the blood of so many who gave it all, so we could have the best country in the world.

Trump Disgraces the United States of America     PERIOD

 
 
 
Texan1211
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2.1.24  Texan1211  replied to  igknorantzrulz @2.1.23    5 years ago

Your word salad is of no interest to me.

If you choose to converse like most people do, I will entertain your legitimate responses.

Until then, not a chance.

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
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2.1.25  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Texan1211 @2.1.24    5 years ago
word salad

stop tossin em Tex

 
 
 
Texan1211
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2.1.26  Texan1211  replied to  igknorantzrulz @2.1.25    5 years ago

Getting closer but still no cigar.

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
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2.1.27  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Texan1211 @2.1.26    5 years ago
still no cigar

sorry Monica,

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2.1.28  Tessylo  replied to  igknorantzrulz @2.1.13    5 years ago
'pathetic Tex'

Yup

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
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2.1.29  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  Release The Kraken @2.1.5    5 years ago
DNC was hacked by a staffer, Julian Assange has alluded to that.

Jeebus Keereist....there you go again with that now trademark republican sourced BS of yours.  Aren't you ever going to tire of being the called out for this shit? 

[side note:  I do like your newest and most appropriate avatar]

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2.1.30  Tessylo  replied to  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו @2.1.29    5 years ago

But, but, I thought he was an independent?

 
 
 
KDMichigan
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2.3  KDMichigan  replied to  JBB @2    5 years ago
If you needed more evidence of Trump's Russia collusion, look no further...

I just started watching. What is the evidence of collusion?

FYI Wikileaks had dirt on Hillary all the way back to 2014...

 
 
 
JBB
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2.3.1  JBB  replied to  KDMichigan @2.3    5 years ago

Then Trump & Co should have known to call the FBI when Wiki called...

 
 
 
Texan1211
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2.3.2  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @2.3.1    5 years ago

According to the article, Stone called Trump. Is Stone Wiki?

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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2.3.3  Ozzwald  replied to  KDMichigan @2.3    5 years ago
FYI Wikileaks had dirt on Hillary all the way back to 2014...

They  did not have DNC emails back in 2014.

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
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2.3.4  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Ozzwald @2.3.3    5 years ago
They  did not have DNC emails back in 2014.

sure they did,

in Michigan.

 
 
 
KDMichigan
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2.3.5  KDMichigan  replied to  Ozzwald @2.3.3    5 years ago
They  did not have DNC emails back in 2014.

Did you even look at WTF you copied and pasted.

Did I say anything about The hacked DNC Emails that the partisan hacks were more worried about than what they actually contained, showing the DNC heads to be a bunch of hypocrites?

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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2.3.6  Ozzwald  replied to  KDMichigan @2.3.5    5 years ago
Did I say anything about The hacked DNC Emails that the partisan hacks were more worried about than what they actually contained, showing the DNC heads to be a bunch of hypocrites?

Then why were you talking about Hillary emails back before Trump Russia collusion was even a twinkle in Trump's eye?  Are you trying to deflect onto a different subject matter?  Do you need to be reminded what this article is about?

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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4  Sean Treacy    5 years ago

Questions have been raised about whether I know of direct evidence that Mr. Trump or his campaign colluded with Russia. I do not. I want to be clear.

Wonder why this isn't the "bombshell" the left is obsessing about?

 
 
 
Tacos!
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4.2  Tacos!  replied to  Sean Treacy @4    5 years ago

It's like opening up Al Capone's vault. There's nothing inside.

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
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4.2.2  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  Tacos! @4.2    5 years ago
It's like opening up Al Capone's vault. There's nothing inside.

You and Wally need some of this:

512

"Click your ruby slippers together three times..."

 
 
 
Rmando
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5  Rmando    5 years ago

If this is the Dems star witness then Trump has nothing to worry about. Cohen makes Linda Tripp look like Mother Theresa by comparison. It obvious that he's just sucking up to the left so he can be their next darling.

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
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5.1  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  Rmando @5    5 years ago
If this is the Dems star witness then Trump has nothing to worry about. Cohen makes Linda Tripp look like Mother Theresa by comparison. It obvious that he's just sucking up to the left so he can be their next darling.

Good analogy (or at least better than what you lot usually slap up).  The same effort that failed against Tripp (she was definitely a scummy person to betray a confidence of a friend, wouldn't you say--or is that OK with you?) is going to fail against Cohen. 

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
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5.1.1  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו @5.1    5 years ago

Trump ain't exactly an innocent in turn 

 
 
 
Rmando
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5.1.2  Rmando  replied to  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו @5.1    5 years ago

I'll take the analogy a bit farther and say that if all the Dems have against Trump is Stormy Daniels payoffs then their impeachment trial will fall flat just like it did against Clinton. I'm just curious how the effort against Cohen, an admitted perjurer and liar, can fail. All Republicans have to do is keep him talking. He's digging himself deeper with his own answers.

 
 
 
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5.1.3  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  Rmando @5.1.2    5 years ago
I'll take the analogy a bit farther and say that if all the Dems have against Trump is Stormy Daniels payoffs.

That's just the tip (harharhar).  Stormy's story is one of the least of Scumbag's problems.

I'm just curious how the effort against Cohen, an admitted perjurer and liar, can fail.

In reality you're just desperately hoping, not curious.   Cohen's situation is uncannily like John Dean's in Watergate.  When Dean testified to Ervin's Senate committee he'd already pleaded guilty to a felony and Republicans tried the same smearing strategy against him that they're dusting off and trying again here.  It failed spectacularly when everything Dean testified to proved to be true when the tapes were released.  Cohen has nothing left to hide and everything to lose if he commits perjury at this point and never tried to dodge his guilt.  One lie he could easily have got away with is telling the committee that Scumbag ordered him to lie to Congress.  No one could ever prove that was false.  But he candidly said that Scumbag did not order him to do that although he did tell describe the many ways Scumbag uses to indicate what he wants to happen without using incriminating language.  We've long been aware that Scumbag uses the very tactics, techniques and even language that big crime bosses are so famous for.   And he learned it all at Daddy Scumbag's knee.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
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5.1.4  Tessylo  replied to  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו @5.1    5 years ago

'Good analogy (or at least better than what you lot usually slap up).  The same effort that failed against Tripp (she was definitely a scummy person to betray a confidence of a friend, wouldn't you say--or is that OK with you?) is going to fail against Cohen.'

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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5.1.5  Trout Giggles  replied to  Rmando @5.1.2    5 years ago

You forgot that Clinton was impeached. He just wasn't removed from office. He was also disbarred

 
 
 
Rmando
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5.1.6  Rmando  replied to  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו @5.1.3    5 years ago

Comparing Cohen to John Dean is a laugh. If Cohen actually had any damning tapes or evidence against Trump he would've released them by now to the SDNY. The whole thing about Watergate was to see if Nixon covered up the burglary. The whole thing with Trump is if he colluded with Russia, which Cohen could not confirm or offer any proof of. The Dems are still holding an empty bag. One major difference is that Nixon has bipartisan opposition on an actual crime. The Dems are just throwing a fit and still wanting a redo of the election.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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5.1.7  Ozzwald  replied to  Rmando @5.1.6    5 years ago
If Cohen actually had any damning tapes or evidence against Trump he would've released them by now to the SDNY.

How do you know he hasn't?

The whole thing with Trump is if he colluded with Russia, which Cohen could not confirm or offer any proof of.

But he did confirm parts.

The Dems are still holding an empty bag.

Bag is definitely NOT empty, just closed.  Mueller has not yet let anyone see inside, but there is definitely stuff inside it.

One major difference is that Nixon has bipartisan opposition on an actual crime.

Meaning today's Republican is much more corrupt than they were in Nixon's time.

The Dems are just throwing a fit and still wanting a redo of the election.

Have yet to hear anyone call for that. 

As to throwing a fit, do we have to remind you of Benghazi (8 investigations), birth certificates, brown suits, uppity Presidents, or anything else that the GOP actually threw fits about over the previous administration?

 
 
 
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5.1.8  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  Rmando @5.1.6    5 years ago
If Cohen actually had any damning tapes or evidence against Trump he would've released them by now to the SDNY.

You must have plugged your ears every time Cohen said he couldn't comment about certain matters since they are still being investigated by the SDNY.  Good luck with that wishful thinking gambit. 

 
 
 
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6  It Is ME    5 years ago

Still watching, and All I have to say/do is ……………….. jrSmiley_10_smiley_image.gif

This is the most "Unbelievable".....Literally..... The MOST unbelievable thing I have ever seen or listened too in my life !

Wassermann Shultz is throwing out questions ? Little Miss "I housed an I.T. SPY"....is actually ALLOWED to ask questions about what is right and wrong of "LYING HIS ASS OFF" Cohen ?

Are you Fucking Kidding me ?

 
 
 
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6.1  1stwarrior  replied to  It Is ME @6    5 years ago

And, you have to remember, she is the DNC's "Black" leader - who, also, just happened to be caught in some malicious lying.

 
 
 
It Is ME
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6.1.1  It Is ME  replied to  1stwarrior @6.1    5 years ago

I haven't forgotten. jrSmiley_36_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
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6.1.2  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  1stwarrior @6.1    5 years ago
And, you have to remember, she is the DNC's "Black" leader - who, also, just happened to be caught in some malicious lying.

Gee, that's got the stench of good ol' rightwing racism to it.  Please do elaborate.  

 
 
 
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6.1.3  Don Overton  replied to  1stwarrior @6.1    5 years ago

You  don't like Blacks?

 
 
 
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6.2  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  It Is ME @6    5 years ago
Wassermann Shultz is throwing out questions ? Little Miss "I housed an I.T. SPY"....is actually ALLOWED to ask questions about what is right and wrong of "LYING HIS ASS OFF" Cohen ?

No matter how you lot try to pretend it isn't there, you're never going to be able to separate Cohen's lying from Scumbag Trump needs.  The fact that Cohen was willing to lie for Scumbag is why Scumbag needed and used him.  Another reason Cohen's not lying now....more jail time if he is.  

 
 
 
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6.2.1  It Is ME  replied to  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו @6.2    5 years ago
The fact that Cohen was willing to lie......

...… For Someone Else, Means he's NOTHING more than a money grubbing Maaaaaaroooooooooon (Bugs bunny for those that don't get out much) !

 
 
 
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6.2.2  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  It Is ME @6.2.1    5 years ago
I'm just curious how the effort against Cohen, an admitted perjurer and liar, can fail.

Yeah, and again, he was your Scumbag's  "money grubbing Maaaaaaroooooooooon" and  the money he grubbed was for Scumbag as well. 

 
 
 
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6.2.3  It Is ME  replied to  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו @6.2.2    5 years ago

Seems he was REALLY for "Himself"....and no-one else (according to him ). jrSmiley_88_smiley_image.gif

Weird your comment was ! jrSmiley_89_smiley_image.gif

Oh....by the way….Didn't you love the Democrats use of "Bombshell/Explosive" when speaking of Cohen's Testimony?

Since Liberal types seem to love symbolisms as a go to bad thing….doesn't it sound to you like the Democrats want Trump Dead ? 

 
 
 
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6.2.4  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  It Is ME @6.2.3    5 years ago
Weird your comment was !

Doing Yoda impressions now, are "we?"  Cute.  I guess you coudn't have heard the bombshells with your earplugs in --- well, in fact, you probably didn't even tune in.  And who could blame you for not wanting to hear what he had to say.  

 
 
 
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6.2.5  It Is ME  replied to  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו @6.2.4    5 years ago

Bombshells ?

Cohen said nothing more than Liberals have been saying since Trump Started Running for office.

Bombshells …… jrSmiley_87_smiley_image.gif PFFFFFTTT jrSmiley_10_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
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6.3  Don Overton  replied to  It Is ME @6    5 years ago

Highly off topic.  

 
 
 
Tacos!
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7  Tacos!    5 years ago

So far, everything this guy is saying is that there doesn't appear to be any coordination between Trump and the Russian government.

 
 
 
evilone
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7.2  evilone  replied to  Tacos! @7    5 years ago
So far, everything this guy is saying is that there doesn't appear to be any coordination between Trump and the Russian government.

This isn't about Russia. This is about who Trump is and how he operates. 

 
 
 
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7.2.1  igknorantzrulz  replied to  evilone @7.2    5 years ago
his is about who Trump is and how he operates. 

doesn't seem to matter to Trump supporters

 
 
 
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7.2.2  evilone  replied to  igknorantzrulz @7.2.1    5 years ago

It never did. He's the same vindictive bully he's always been known to be.

 
 
 
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7.2.3  igknorantzrulz  replied to  evilone @7.2.2    5 years ago
He's the same vindictive bully he's always been known to be.

How he ever won the GOP primary, still amazes me, with his background and displayed temperament.

How he was ever elected POTUS, truly should sadden All Americans. I , at one point, thought it was due to ignorance. Now, it is rather apparent, it does not matter what he does or who he actually is.

His supporters have  proven able to forgive and accept about anything ( he possibly could shoot someone on 5th avenue) Trump does, and that is a more concerning fact

than Trump himself, imho

When i think about all of the truly great men and women who gave life and limb to to create & preserve this once so great Nation,

it truly makes me angry.

This Piece of Shit, is not worthy of representing this country, as even at this moment, bone spur boy, is in Vietnam(Where his was an STD), bromancing someone he states he has fallen in love with (A proven murderous Tyrant/Dictator), doing his best to serve "President' Putin's and Russia's best interests,

while his defenders, continue to forgive and defend.

Another sad day for US All in the USA

 
 
 
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7.3  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  Tacos! @7    5 years ago
So far, everything this guy is saying is that there doesn't appear to be any coordination between Trump and the Russian government.

You can take your blindfold and earplugs out now.  It's out of the bag.  Cohen confirmed working on the Moscow hotel project right up to inauguration day -- at least.  The prosecutors in the SDNY know that and Mueller knows that.  Do you pray?  If so, I'd suggest you to get to it.  

 
 
 
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7.3.1  Tacos!  replied to  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו @7.3    5 years ago
It's out of the bag.

Here's what's out of the bag:

"Questions have been raised about whether I know of direct evidence that Mr. Trump or his campaign colluded with Russia. I do not."

As for

the Moscow hotel project

I could not care less about Trump and his hotels. The hotel is not the election. Trump has connections all over the world. So do a lot of people. Having a connection doesn't mean you are committing a crime. Prove the crime. All you have is innuendo and eyebrow raising as an argument that we should all be horrified. This is the kind of human behavior that gives us lynchings, inquisitions, witch trials and the like. I'm not interested in your tabloid "justice." I say prove the crime as per our standards or stfu.

 
 
 
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7.3.2  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  Tacos! @7.3.1    5 years ago
I could not care less about Trump and his hotels.

Of course you don't care about and wish it would go away.  Fact is, Cohen has corroborated that Scumbag continued to negotiate for the hotel all during the campaign and transition while lying to everyone about it whenever asked.  I keep telling you people just be patient.  The criminality will be spelled out in the Mueller report and if Scumbag's plant in the DoJ manages to suppress that report it will still be played out in the courts and one way or another the facts of that report will come out just as it all did with Nixon.   Then we'll see who gets to STFU.  Oh, but a hat tip to you for the great hysteria about a "lynching."  jrSmiley_78_smiley_image.gif jrSmiley_86_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
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7.3.4  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to    5 years ago
You have seen the report?

No, but I've seen how many convictions of Scumbag's associates Mueller has already obtained.  Have you decided to pretend those don't exist?  I fully understand why wishful thinking on your part is so strong but that doesn't mean we all have to participate in your fantasy. 

 
 
 
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7.3.5  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to    5 years ago

Oh, and rightbackatcha, baby  jrSmiley_88_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
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7.3.6  Tacos!  replied to  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו @7.3.2    5 years ago
The criminality will be spelled out in the Mueller report

And if it is, I would support an appropriate response from DOJ or Congress. But it is lynching when people are ready to convict or impeach the man before that evidence is actually in front of us. People have been talking about impeaching Trump since before he was elected. Imagine that! He wasn't even elected yet! That is so divorced from our traditional concepts of justice and fair play that it blows my mind that Americans could engage in it.

 
 
 
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7.3.7  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  Tacos! @7.3.6    5 years ago
But it is lynching when people are ready to convict or impeach the man before that evidence is actually in front of us.

Congress doesn't need to wait for the DoJ to complete anything before considering impeachment.  No statutory crimes even have to be committed much less prosecuted,  to bring impeachment charges against a President.  Of all people,  Clintonhaters must know that. And the unlawful activities that occurred before he took office, particularly ones that cast doubt on the legitimacy of the election, aren't off limits for impeachment either. Congress doesn't have to wait for Mueller or the SDNY to finish in order to take action.  All Congress has to consider is are there enough examples of general unfitness for the highest office in the land to impeach and Scumbag provides more than enough evidence for that: 

DONALD TRUMP'S 10   IMPEACHABLE OFFENSES

1.

Obstructing Justice

  • After taking office, Trump asked FBI Director James Comey to abandon the investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election—which the FBI had already connected to Michael Flynn.
  • When Comey refused to alter course, Trump fired him.
  • Trump then admitted the firing was over “the Russia thing” in a televised interview.
  • In a tweet months later, he stated that he “had to fire Michael Flynn because he lied to the FBI”— further affirming that he dismissed James Comey in an attempt to quash the FBI’s investigation.

Bottom line: Trump has repeatedly attempted to interfere in the Russia investigation, and admitted as much—that’s a clear case of obstructing justice.

2.

Violating the Emoluments Clause of the U.S. Constitution

  • The Constitution’s Foreign Emoluments Clause prohibits the president from accepting personal benefits from any foreign government or official.
  • Trump has retained his ownership interests in his family business while he is in office.
  • Thus, every time a foreign official stays at a Trump hotel, or a foreign government approves a new Trump Organization project, or grants a trademark, Trump is in violation of the Constitution.
    • For example: shortly after he was sworn into office, the Chinese government
      gave preliminary approval to 38 trademarks of Trump’s name. Then, in June, China approved nine Donald Trump trademarks they had previously rejected.
  • And every time he goes to golf at a Trump property, he funnels taxpayer money into his family business—violating the Domestic Emoluments Clause.

Bottom line:   Because Trump never divested from his business interests, he violates the Constitution every time the Trump Organization has business dealings with foreign or American government officials.

3

Conspiring with Others to Commit Crimes Against the United States, and Attempting to Conceal Those Violations

  • In the middle of the 2016 election, Trump’s son was invited to meet with a Russian national regarding “information that would incriminate Hillary and…would be very useful to” Donald Trump
  • The Russian, Natalia Veselnitskaya, had ties to high-ranking Kremlin officials.
  • Trump Jr. took the meeting. He said, “I love it,” when told Veselnitskaya may have had dirt on Clinton. Paul Manafort and Jared Kushner also attended.
  • Federal law prohibits campaigns from soliciting anything of value from a foreign national.
  • After journalists broke this story, Trump personally dictated a public statement on behalf of his son that lied about the intended purpose of the meeting.
  • This relationship between the Trump team and the Russian national raises questions of whether the campaign aided a hostile foreign power’s active operation against the United States.

Bottom line:   Trump tried to cover up his campaign’s contacts with a Russian national—which, at very least, constituted a violation of federal law.

4

Advocating Violence and Undermining Equal Protection Under the Law

  • When Trump gave cover to the neo-Nazis who rioted in Charlottesville and murdered a protester, he violated his obligation to protect the citizenry against domestic violence.
  • When Trump encouraged police officers to rough up people they have under arrest, he violated his obligation to oversee faithful execution of the laws.
  • When Trump shared anti-Muslim content on Twitter, he violated his obligation to uphold equal protection of the laws.
  • This represents a pattern of disregard for some of the president’s basic responsibilities as defined by the Constitution.

Bottom line:   Trump has demonstrated a pattern of behavior amounting to advocating violence, undercutting equal protection, and, as a result, failing basic Constitutional duties.

5

Abusing the Pardon Power

  • President Trump’s decision to pardon Joe Arpaio amounted to an abuse of the pardon power that revealed his indifference to individual rights and equal protections.
  • Joe Arpaio was convicted for contempt of court after ignoring a court order that he stop detaining and searching people based on the color of their skin, which constitutes a violation of their rights.
  • Pardoning this conviction goes against the Fifth Amendment, which allows the judiciary to issue and enforce injunctions against government officials who flout individual rights.

Bottom line:   Trump’s pardon of Joe Arpaio violates the Fifth Amendment and harms the guarantee of Constitutional rights.

6

Engaging in Conduct that Grossly Endangers the Peace and Security of the United States

  • High-ranking administration officials involved in foreign affairs have signaled that Trump does not have the capacity to make informed decisions in the event of a military crisis.
  • Even worse, his actions could spark a needless confrontation stemming from misunderstanding or miscalculation.
  • We see this in full effect every time Trump tweets or makes a public statement taunting and threatening the North Korean regime.
  • The president may be the “Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States,” but that does not give him the right to behave in reckless or wanton ways that put millions of lives at risk.
  • If he is unfit to perform his duties as Commander in Chief, he cannot be allowed to remain in the position.

Bottom line:   Trump cannot be permitted to recklessly and needlessly endanger millions of Americans with his unstable behavior.

7

Directing Law Enforcement to Investigate and Prosecute Political Adversaries for Improper and Unjustifiable Purposes

  • President Trump has repeatedly pressured the Department of Justice and the FBI to investigate and prosecute political adversaries like Hillary Clinton.
  • This is not based in concerns with national security, law enforcement, or any other function of his office—it is an attempted power play, plain and simple.
  • There’s no question that this constitutes an outrageous and inappropriate abuse of executive branch powers and serves as clear grounds for impeachment.

Bottom line:   Trump’s threats against political opponents are threats against American democracy.

8

Undermining the Freedom of the Press

  • President Trump has repeatedly attacked the concept of an independent press.
  • He’s called critical coverage “fake news” and journalists “the enemy of the American people,” made threats to change libel laws and revoke licenses, and his battles with CNN led him to try to interfere in the AT&T/Time Warner merger.
  • This demonstrates his unwillingness to respect and uphold the Constitution, and disdain for the crucial foundations to our free society.
Bottom line:   Trump’s threats against freedom of the press are also threats against American democracy. Thanks to Free Speech for People, whose white paper,   ‘The Legal Case for a Congressional Investigation on Whether to Impeach President Donald J. Trump,’   served as the basis for this list.
9

Cruelly and Unconstitutionally Imprisoning Children and their Families

Bottom line:   Trump’s policy endangers thousands of immigrant children and families, and defies basic Constitutional values.

Thanks to Free Speech for People, ‘ New ground for impeachment hearings: cruel and unconstitutional imprisonment of children and their families ,’ served as content for this impeachable offense.
10

Violating Campaign Finance Laws

  • Donald Trump knew disclosure of his extramarital affairs with  Stephanie Cliffords  (A.K.A. Stormy Daniels) and  Karen McDougal  could hurt his chances at winning the 2016 election.
  • At the direction of Trump, Michael Cohen and American Media, Inc. (AMI), the publisher of the  National Enquirer  bought the rights to the women’s stories and forced them to sign Non-Disclosure Agreements to prevent them from going public.
  • Cohen admitted to making illegal, hush-money payments  to hide Trump’s affairs in the fall of 2016, just weeks before the election.
  • Federal prosecutors , and Trump’s co-conspirators  Cohen  and  AMI , all say that Cohen made the payments at Trump’s direction, “in concert with the campaign,” and with the intention of helping Trump win.
  • Trump is  unindicted co-conspirator   because he directed Cohen to “cause an unlawful corporate contribution” and an “excessive campaign contribution” by paying the two women hush money with the intent to influence the election.
Bottom line:   Trump committed at least two felonies to illegally cheat his way into office.
And No. 6 up there doesn't include the fact that Scumbag went against all his security advisers and his chief-of-staff to give top security clearances to his daughter and son-in-law despite dozens of false statements made by them in their applications not to mention their being entirely unqualified to hold any kind of security clearance.  
 
 
 
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7.3.8  Tacos!  replied to  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו @7.3.7    5 years ago
Congress doesn't need to wait for the DoJ to complete anything before considering impeachment . . . Congress doesn't have to wait for Mueller

No they don't. It's a purely political process. But isn't it interesting that they have been insisting for two years that we all should wait on Mueller? They even tried to pass legislation protecting him. Now that he's almost done and there doesn't appear to be any more indictments coming, and signs point away from Russian collusion, Democrats are already saying the impending report doesn't matter. And the hypocrisy escapes them.

Clintonhaters must know that

I hope you don't think I'm a Clinton hater. I voted for the man and I voted again for his wife in 2008 before she went senile.

All Congress has to consider is are there enough examples of general unfitness

Ultimately, they'll do what they want because there is no appeal process for impeachment, but as a Constitutional fact, the standard is not "general unfitness." It's "high crimes and misdemeanors."

more than enough evidence

If it was truly more than enough, they would have already impeached and prosecuted him. I mean, that's just logical.

 
 
 
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8  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו    5 years ago

The bind all of Scumbag's suckers are in is that when they attack Cohen's history of lying they seem to forget that's why Scumbag hired him.  It's the first box Scumbag checks when he hires his mini-scumbags.  Keep this in mind as well....John Dean was in the same position when he finally testified to all the crimes he committed and his testimony was the beginning of the end for another scumbag:  Nixon.  And Republicans also tried to destroy Dean and failed miserably. 

 
 
 
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8.1  evilone  replied to  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו @8    5 years ago

Rep Cummings has made no bones about his leading the committee. All lies will be forwarded to the Justice Department. Any news lies before Congress today would void Cohen's plea deal and effect his sentencing. 

 
 
 
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9  evilone    5 years ago

Look to see the mentioned CFO for Trump Org,  Allen Weisselberg, called in next.  

 
 
 
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9.1  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  evilone @9    5 years ago
Look to see the mentioned CFO for Trump Org,   Allen Weisselberg, called in next.  

To get any closer to Scumbag's filthy secrets, they'd have to subpoena Melania (poor woman jrSmiley_55_smiley_image.gif ).  

 
 
 
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11  Ender    5 years ago

I only caught the end of this. What I found odd, the right constantly calls the news media fake news. Says they have a bias and are a pack of lies.

Yet during this hearing, their way of trying to undermine Cohen was to put into record all of these articles from the same news media they have been vilifying.

These 'fake news' pushers are now a bastion of truth that must be put into congressional records.

Hell they even added a story from Huffington Post.

Bunch of hypocritical assholes. 

 
 
 
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12  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו    5 years ago

Latest out of the SDNY this morning is that the judge in Cohen's case is going to release some documentation of the evidence that the prosecutors received from the investigation.  This should be fun.  

 
 

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