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Young Turk Wants To Bet Trump On College Grades

  

Category:  News & Politics

Via:  john-russell  •  5 years ago  •  78 comments

Young Turk Wants To Bet Trump On College Grades
“If you have better grades than me, I’ll give you a million dollars,” Uygur said. “If I have better grades than you, you give me a million dollars. If you release [your high school and college transcripts, along with yours SAT scores], and you agree to this deal, we definitely have a bet.”

S E E D E D   C O N T E N T



Cenk Uygur — a 1992 graduate of the University of Pennsylvania’s Wharton School of Business — is throwing down the gauntlet to a man who has been known to boast about his degree from that institution.

In a segment posted by The Young Turks Wednesday, the progressive commentator challenged 1968 Wharton grad President Donald Trump to release his grades. And Uygur says he’s putting his money where his mouth is.

“If you have better grades than me, I’ll give you a million dollars,” Uygur said. “If I have better grades than you, you give me a million dollars. If you release [your high school and college transcripts, along with yours SAT scores], and you agree to this deal, we definitely have a bet.”

Uygur claims that if Trump takes him up on the offer, and he should win the challenge, he would bankrupt Uygur.

“Do I have a million dollars?” Uygur said. “No. You’ll bankrupt me and take everything I have … Go for it. Donald Trump, you know how ecstatic MAGA nation would be if you bankrupted me?”

Watch above, via The Young Turks. The relevant portion begins at the 5:40 mark.


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JohnRussell
Professor Principal
1  seeder  JohnRussell    5 years ago

This challenge serves as both a publicity stunt for The Young Turks brand as an example of how to shut Trump the fuck up on a topic.

There is video/audio of Donald Trump claiming to a campaign audience that he had the best grades of anyone in his class at Wharton. This is provably false. Reporters have looked at the Dean's List for Trump's years at Wharton and Trump's name is not on there.

No doubt Trump will not take Uygar's bet.

 
 
 
zuksam
Junior Silent
2  zuksam    5 years ago

I wonder if he realizes that making a bet like this is Illegal.

 
 
 
luther28
Sophomore Silent
2.1  luther28  replied to  zuksam @2    5 years ago

I was thinking more along the lines of, shall we say juvenile.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
2.1.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  luther28 @2.1    5 years ago

It's a little late in the game to worry about juvenile behavior in America.

I think of it more like fighting fire with fire anyway.

 
 
 
luther28
Sophomore Silent
2.1.2  luther28  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.1    5 years ago
It's a little late in the game to worry about juvenile behavior in America.

Let us hope not, that is unless one actually happens to be a juvenile.

 
 
 
Snuffy
Professor Participates
2.1.3  Snuffy  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.1    5 years ago

So you are now saying that because they did it first we can do it now?  Interesting....

 
 
 
1stwarrior
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3  1stwarrior    5 years ago

"The Young Turks" - " Overall, we rate The Young Turks Left Biased based on story selection that always favors the progressive left and Mixed for factual reporting due to promotion of pseudoscience in regards to GMO’s. "

Doesn't meet the criteria as a source John - you know better than that.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
Professor Quiet
3.1  Ozzwald  replied to  1stwarrior @3    5 years ago
Doesn't meet the criteria as a source John - you know better than that.

It's not being used as a "source", it's a mere statement of where Cenk works.  

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
3.1.2  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to    5 years ago

You don't seem to know what the word source means here.

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
3.1.3  Split Personality  replied to    5 years ago

Wally,

the source is mediaite

the topic is a bet by Cenk to Donald.

 
 
 
1stwarrior
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3.1.4  1stwarrior  replied to  Split Personality @3.1.3    5 years ago

These media sources are moderately to strongly biased toward liberal causes through story selection and/or political affiliation.  They may utilize strong loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by using appeal to emotion or stereotypes), publish misleading reports and omit reporting of information that may damage liberal causes. Some sources in this category may be untrustworthy .

 
 
 
Split Personality
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3.1.5  Split Personality  replied to  1stwarrior @3.1.4    5 years ago

See comment # 8

or follow your own link, where is the the ball on the main line ? ( hint, it's not in the arrowhead yet, therefore an acceptable source )

left7.png?resize=700%2C78&ssl=1 LEFT BIAS

These media sources are moderately to strongly biased toward liberal causes through story selection and/or political affiliation.  They may utilize strong loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by using appeal to emotion or stereotypes), publish misleading reports and omit reporting of information that may damage liberal causes. Some sources in this category may be untrustworthy.  See all Left Bias sources.

Factual Reporting:  HIGH

Notes:  Mediaite is a liberal news and opinion blog covering politics and entertainment in the media industry. It is the flagship blog of Abrams Media, a ring of blogs run by ABC legal analyst Dan Abrams. Mediaite presents news with a left wing bias in reporting choices. Although they publish mostly stories that favor the left, they do source their content well. (8/21/2016) Updated (D. Van Zandt 5/12/2017)

 
 
 
Split Personality
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3.1.6  Split Personality  replied to  1stwarrior @3.1.4    5 years ago

384

 
 
 
Ozzwald
Professor Quiet
3.1.7  Ozzwald  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.2    5 years ago
You don't seem to know what the word source means here.

Wally is one of a few, on these boards, that seem to have troubles understanding simple English words at times.

 
 
 
It Is ME
Masters Guide
4  It Is ME    5 years ago

“If you have better grades than me, I’ll give you a million dollars,” Uygur said."

But folks with "Big Bucks" to throw around like this are …..Bad, Bad.....BAD !

Or so I'm ALWAYS told !

Now "Big Buck" Folks are "Good Guys ?

Young Turk.....Pffffft !

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
4.1  Texan1211  replied to  It Is ME @4    5 years ago

The ass is trying to make a bet with money he doesn't have.

Gee, some might call that dishonest. Not too many on here, of course, but there are some folks sane enough to know it's wrong.

 
 
 
It Is ME
Masters Guide
4.1.1  It Is ME  replied to  Texan1211 @4.1    5 years ago
Not too many on here, of course, but there are some folks sane enough to know it's wrong.

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Careful though....ya just might get deleted for that. jrSmiley_19_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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4.1.2  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Texan1211 @4.1    5 years ago
The ass is trying to make a bet with money he doesn't have.

"Cenk Uygur Net Worth: Cenk Uygur is a Turkish American political commentator, internet personality and political activist who has a net worth of $5 million . "

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
4.1.3  Texan1211  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @4.1.2    5 years ago
"Cenk Uygur Net Worth: Cenk Uygur is a Turkish American political commentator, internet personality and political activist who has a net worth of $5 million."

According to the story, either your source is not correct or he is a liar.

 
 
 
MonsterMash
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4.1.4  MonsterMash  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @4.1.2    5 years ago

“Do I have a million dollars?” Uygur said. “No. You’ll bankrupt me and take everything I have

 
 
 
Texan1211
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5  Texan1211    5 years ago

Exactly what kind of asshole tries to make a bet with money he doesn't even have?

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Expert
5.1  Dulay  replied to  Texan1211 @5    5 years ago
Exactly what kind of asshole tries to make a bet with money he doesn't even have?

The same kind that makes an allegation that they have no proof for...

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
5.1.1  Texan1211  replied to  Dulay @5.1    5 years ago
The same kind that makes an allegation that they have no proof for...

So you condemn this idiocy.

Good.

Progress!

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Expert
5.1.2  Dulay  replied to  Texan1211 @5.1.1    5 years ago
So you condemn this idiocy.

Good.

Progress!

Another baseless presumption. 

YOUR allegation about Cenk Uygur is also baseless. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
5.1.3  Texan1211  replied to  Dulay @5.1.2    5 years ago
Another baseless presumption.
YOUR allegation about Cenk Uygur is also baseless.

I didn't allege anything.

He is quoted in the article saying he would be bankrupt if he lost the bet. Either he is clearly LYING about that or some folks have seriously overestimated his net worth.

Which is it?

Is he lying or not?

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Expert
5.1.4  Dulay  replied to  Texan1211 @5.1.3    5 years ago
I didn't allege anything.

He is quoted in the article saying he would be bankrupt if he lost the bet. Either he is clearly LYING about that or some folks have seriously overestimated his net worth.

Which is it?

Is he lying or not?

Bankruptcy would liquidate his assets and PAY the bet. So while he may not have the CASH, he DOES have the ASSETS. He's NOT making a bet he can't cover...

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
5.1.5  Texan1211  replied to  Dulay @5.1.4    5 years ago

Are bets covered in bankruptcy courts now?

LOL!

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
5.1.6  Tessylo  replied to  Dulay @5.1    5 years ago
'The same kind that makes an allegation that they have no proof for...'

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Split Personality
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5.2  Split Personality  replied to  Texan1211 @5    5 years ago

Cenk Uygur Net Worth 2018

With publicity rising in the past few years, the Young Turks has gained quite a bit of success and Cenk Uygur’s recent round of investment is only more evidence of this. But how much is Cenk Uygur net worth? We can estimate Cenk’s net worth based on a few important points. Recently, Cenk Uygur bought a house that was priced at $1.2 million in the Los Angeles area. Additionally, given that Cenk closed on an initial investment round of $20 million, we estimate the value of The Young Turks corporation to be around $50-$70 million. That would make Cenk share somewhere between $10-20 million. We therefore estimate Cenk Uygur net worth 2018 at $18-22 million.

Not that net worth is liquid, mind you, but it appears that losing the bet would not hurt him too much.

After all, this is just a publicity stunt - free advertising - right?

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Expert
5.2.1  Dulay  replied to  Split Personality @5.2    5 years ago

It's unfortunate that all too many make false allegations without doing their due diligence to ensure what they are alleging has a basis in fact.

I can't help but wonder why they think that their bad faith comments are worthy of posting here on NT. 

 
 
 
It Is ME
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5.2.2  It Is ME  replied to  Split Personality @5.2    5 years ago

From the "Seeded Article":

"Uygur claims that if Trump takes him up on the offer, and he should win the challenge, he would bankrupt Uygur."Do I have a million dollars?” Uygur said. “No". You’ll bankrupt me and take everything I have … Go for it."

Soooo....which is true ?

Your "Story" or the seeds supposed WORD OF MOUTH "Story" ! 

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
5.2.3  Split Personality  replied to  It Is ME @5.2.2    5 years ago

Does he have a million in cash laying around, probably not.  Would it really bankrupt him, probably not.

Soooo....which is true ?

Who cares?

Right now Cenk is living rent free in many peoples heads.  Free publicity is a bitch, huh?

 
 
 
It Is ME
Masters Guide
5.2.4  It Is ME  replied to  Split Personality @5.2.3    5 years ago
Who cares?

Your not worried about what is true or not ?

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
5.2.5  Trout Giggles  replied to  Split Personality @5.2.3    5 years ago
Right now Cenk is living rent free in many peoples heads. 

And that really is the whole point of this exercise, isn't it?

 
 
 
It Is ME
Masters Guide
5.2.6  It Is ME  replied to  Trout Giggles @5.2.5    5 years ago
And that really is the whole point of this exercise, isn't it?

Nope !

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
5.2.7  Tessylo  replied to  Dulay @5.2.1    5 years ago
'I can't help but wonder why they think that their bad faith comments are worthy of posting here on NT.'

Because that's all they have

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
5.2.8  Split Personality  replied to  It Is ME @5.2.4    5 years ago

About who has the higher grades between Cenk or Donald?

Or how much cash Cenk can afford to lose in a bet?

Not at all.

 
 
 
It Is ME
Masters Guide
5.2.9  It Is ME  replied to  Split Personality @5.2.8    5 years ago

About who has the higher grades between Cenk or Donald?
Or how much cash Cenk can afford to lose in a bet?
Not at all.

Good for you ! jrSmiley_79_smiley_image.gif

So this is just a "Play around" article. jrSmiley_24_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
5.2.10  Split Personality  replied to  It Is ME @5.2.9    5 years ago
So this is just a "Play around" article.

Aren't yours?

 
 
 
It Is ME
Masters Guide
5.2.11  It Is ME  replied to  Split Personality @5.2.10    5 years ago
Aren't yours?

Are they ? jrSmiley_87_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
MonsterMash
Sophomore Quiet
5.3  MonsterMash  replied to  Texan1211 @5    5 years ago
Exactly what kind of asshole tries to make a bet with money he doesn't even have?

Lots of habitual gamblers make bets with a bookie with money they don't have, when they lose the consequences are severe.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
6  seeder  JohnRussell    5 years ago

1. The Young Turks is NOT disqualified as a source by MBFC.

2. The seeded article is not from The Young Turks, it is from Mediaite.

Factual Reporting: HIGH

Notes: Mediaite is a liberal news and opinion blog covering politics and entertainment in the media industry. It is the flagship blog of Abrams Media, a ring of blogs run by ABC legal analyst Dan Abrams. Mediaite presents news with a left wing bias in reporting choices. Although they publish mostly stories that favor the left, they do source their content well. (8/21/2016) Updated (D. Van Zandt 5/12/2017)

( I would even challenge that Mediaite is that much to the left, but since MBFC is the Newstalkers bible we have to go with that)

Well, you struck out again 1st warrior.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
7  seeder  JohnRussell    5 years ago

Everytime we discuss something about Trump the same funny thing happens. The Trumpsters dont address the meat of the story, they discuss personalities.Notice that not one of the Trump supporters responding to this seed so far thinks there is any hope that Trump would win the bet. jrSmiley_10_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
7.1  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @7    5 years ago

Why should anyone really care about some asshole attempting to make bets he doesn't have the money to cover?

His "credibility" is shot right there.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
7.1.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Texan1211 @7.1    5 years ago

Thank you for proving my point.

 
 
 
katrix
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7.1.2  katrix  replied to  Texan1211 @7.1    5 years ago

No, his credibility isn't shot - he openly said that Trump would drive him into bankruptcy if he lost the bet.

He's an idiot because he should know that Trump would welsh on the bet anyway.  He denied making the $1 million bet with Warren, even though it was recorded.  Anyone who takes Trump at his word is an idiot.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
7.1.3  Trout Giggles  replied to  katrix @7.1.2    5 years ago

He's a well meaning idiot. Can't fault the guy for trying

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
7.1.4  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @7.1.1    5 years ago

The story is about someone attempting to make a bet with Trump===with money he doesn't actually have. 

Perhaps in your world, that shows credibility, but not in the real world.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
7.1.5  Texan1211  replied to  katrix @7.1.2    5 years ago
No, his credibility isn't shot - he openly said that Trump would drive him into bankruptcy if he lost the bet.

I guess we have different definitions for credible. I consider making bets you can't cover to be dishonest, stupid, and downright weird.

And pretty fucking stupid to gamble more than you can afford to lose.

But hey, that's just me. You think he is credible, maybe you could back him.

 
 
 
It Is ME
Masters Guide
7.1.6  It Is ME  replied to  Trout Giggles @7.1.3    5 years ago
He's a well meaning idiot. Can't fault the guy for trying

"Idiots" need luv too ! jrSmiley_79_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
katrix
Sophomore Participates
7.1.7  katrix  replied to  Texan1211 @7.1.4    5 years ago

If he had pretended he did have a million dollars, he would have lost credibility in my mind.  As it is, I just think he's being an idiot, but he wasn't being dishonest.

Since it's pretty clear that Trump would lose the bet, it doesn't matter much to me whether or not Uygur has the million anyway.  Trump wouldn't have been in such a rush to have his records hidden as soon as he challenged Obama to show his records if his grades were so wonderful.

One of my friends owes me a million dollars - well, minus a drink he bought me the other week.  I knew he didn't have it when we made the bet.  I knew I didn't have it, either, but since I knew I was going to win the bet, that didn't actually matter.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
7.1.8  Texan1211  replied to  katrix @7.1.7    5 years ago

To me, when you bet money you don't have, that is not credible.

Like I said, we apparently have different definitions of credible.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
7.1.9  Tessylo  replied to  Texan1211 @7.1.8    5 years ago
'Like I said, we apparently have different definitions of credible.'

jrSmiley_82_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
7.1.10  Texan1211  replied to  Tessylo @7.1.9    5 years ago
'Like I said, we apparently have different definitions of credible.'

[Deleted]

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
7.1.11  Texan1211  replied to  Tessylo @7.1.9    5 years ago

Best post !

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
7.1.12  Split Personality  replied to  katrix @7.1.2    5 years ago

Personal bankruptcy, maybe, but probably not.

He has used crowdfunding in the past to raise capital for TYT and charities,

His most recent 2017 campaign for expansion raised $20 million for TYT.  Their original goal was $2 million.

I'd think that should he lose the bet, he'd raise the cash through Go Fund Me or Crowdsourcing in a very short time.

 
 
 
katrix
Sophomore Participates
7.1.13  katrix  replied to  Split Personality @7.1.12    5 years ago
I'd think that should he lose the bet, he'd raise the cash through Go Fund Me or Crowdsourcing in a very short time.

That's possible - although why anyone would want to contribute to a fund to give Trump a million dollars is beyond me.

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
7.1.14  Split Personality  replied to  katrix @7.1.13    5 years ago

I believe that as much as anything, this is just a publicity stunt by TYT.

and at least here, he has gotten the attention of quite a few people.

( besides, his net worth is reportedly between 10 & 20 million )

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
7.1.15  Texan1211  replied to  Split Personality @7.1.14    5 years ago
( besides, his net worth is between 10 & 20 million )

So the quotes in the article are lies? Or are projections of his wealth all wrong?

Is the source of the story accurately quoting him when he said losing the bet would bankrupt him?

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
7.1.16  Split Personality  replied to  Texan1211 @7.1.15    5 years ago

Could be.  Like I said, this was a publicity stunt.

Win, win for TYT.

He has all of us talking about him, doesn't he?

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
7.1.17  Texan1211  replied to  Split Personality @7.1.16    5 years ago
Could be. Like I said, this was a publicity stunt.
Win, win for TYT.
He has all of us talking about him, doesn't he?

Sounds like something no one should take at all seriously then.

He lied or others lied about his net worth.

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
7.1.18  Split Personality  replied to  Texan1211 @7.1.17    5 years ago
He lied or others lied about his net worth.

So he emulates the President.  Big deal, huh?

 
 
 
katrix
Sophomore Participates
7.1.19  katrix  replied to  Texan1211 @7.1.17    5 years ago
Sounds like something no one should take at all seriously then.

I certainly didn't take it seriously.  And as I said, since Trump would just welsh anyway if he lost, even if this guy did have the money I wouldn't take it seriously.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
7.1.20  Texan1211  replied to  Split Personality @7.1.18    5 years ago
So he emulates the President. Big deal, huh?

Interesting reaction.

Had he been a Republican doing that, I am positive your reaction wouldn't be the same.

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
7.1.21  Split Personality  replied to  Texan1211 @7.1.20    5 years ago

Prove it.

Please be specific

 
 
 
It Is ME
Masters Guide
7.1.22  It Is ME  replied to  Split Personality @7.1.21    5 years ago
Prove it. Please be specific

Comment 5.2.3 Split Personality:

And I quote .............  "WHO CARES" !

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
7.1.23  Split Personality  replied to  It Is ME @7.1.22    5 years ago

and I repeat, Who Cares?

About who has the higher grades between Cenk or Donald?

Or how much cash Cenk can afford to lose in a bet?

Not at all.

and I repeat, why let some talking head on You Tube live rent free in your head?

 
 
 
It Is ME
Masters Guide
7.1.24  It Is ME  replied to  Split Personality @7.1.23    5 years ago
and I repeat, Who Cares?

Figures.

"why let some talking head on You Tube live rent free"

Why not ? D.S. Congress folks are trying to work us that way anyway ! This one just got a "Head Start" !

Jealous ?

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
7.1.25  Split Personality  replied to  It Is ME @7.1.24    5 years ago
Jealous ?

Of whom?

 
 
 
It Is ME
Masters Guide
7.1.26  It Is ME  replied to  Split Personality @7.1.25    5 years ago
Of whom?

Not "Whom"....."What" !

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
8  Split Personality    5 years ago

LEFT BIAS

These media sources are moderately to strongly biased toward liberal causes through story selection and/or political affiliation.  They may utilize strong loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by using appeal to emotion or stereotypes), publish misleading reports and omit reporting of information that may damage liberal causes. Some sources in this category may be untrustworthy.  See all Left Bias sources.

Factual Reporting:  HIGH

Notes:  Mediaite is a liberal news and opinion blog covering politics and entertainment in the media industry. It is the flagship blog of Abrams Media, a ring of blogs run by ABC legal analyst Dan Abrams. Mediaite presents news with a left wing bias in reporting choices. Although they publish mostly stories that favor the left, they do source their content well. (8/21/2016) Updated (D. Van Zandt 5/12/2017)

Source: 

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
9  Tacos!    5 years ago

Was this satire or is he just that dumb?

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
9.1  Split Personality  replied to  Tacos! @9    5 years ago

He's selling.  Himself and his show.  Doesn't  matter if he won or lost, it's the same amount of attention to a growing news show.

I'm sure if he read this page, he'd be laughing the loudest.

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
9.1.1  Tacos!  replied to  Split Personality @9.1    5 years ago

Yeah, I guess there's no such thing as bad publicity.

 
 

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