Trump complains he 'didn't get a thank you' for agreeing to John McCain's state funeral, in latest attack on recently deceased war hero
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Trump complains he 'didn't get a thank you' for agreeing to John McCain's state funeral, in latest attack on recently deceased war hero
Tom Embury-Dennis, The Independent 1 hour 22 minutes ago
Donald Trump has again attacked John McCain during a speech in which he complained he “didn’t get thank you’d” for approving the late senator’s state funeral.
McCain, whom millions of Americans consider a war hero , died of brain cancer last summer, aged 81. Reportedly at the late Republican's request, Mr Trump was not invited to his funeral service at Washington National Cathedral.
“I endorsed him at his request, and I gave him the kind of funeral he wanted, which as president I had to approve,” Mr Trump told an audience of workers at an Ohio tank factory on Wednesday.
“I don’t care about this – I didn’t get thank you’d, that’s OK. We sent him on the way, but I wasn’t a fan of John McCain.”
It is unclear who Mr Trump was seeking thanks from.
The diatribe, which lasted almost five minutes and was largely met with silence, took in a range of perceived missteps by McCain, including his involvement in a dossier alleging links between Mr Trump and Russia and his vote against a Republican healthcare bill.
“So I have to be honest, I’ve never liked him much, hasn’t been for me, I’ve really probably never will, but there’s certain reasons for it and I’ll tell you, and I do this to save a little time with the press later on,” Mr Trump began.
“John McCain received a fake and phoney dossier, did you hear about the dossier? It was paid for by Crooked Hillary Clinton, right? And John McCain got it, he got it, and what did he do? He didn’t call me, he turned it over to the FBI hoping to put me in jeopardy, and that’s not the nicest thing to do.”
The dossier into Mr Trump’s connections to Russia, which was compiled by former MI6 officer Christopher Steele, was funded by a private intelligence firm on behalf of the Clinton campaign.
McCain, who was made aware of the dossier days after Mr Trump’s election in November 2016, passed its contents on a month later to then FBI chief James Comey.
Mr Trump continued: “John McCain campaigned for years to repeal and replace Obamacare … when he finally had the chance to do it he voted against repeal and replace, he voted against at 2 o’clock in the morning, remember thumbs down. We said ‘What the hell happened?’”
Mr Trump’s “thumbs down” complaint is a reference to when McCain in 2017 defied Mr Trump’s attempt to partially repeal former president Barack Obama’s healthcare reforms.
The senator voted against the bill, effectively killing the so-called “skinny” repeal, which would have resulted in 16 million people losing their health insurance.
The president also falsely claimed McCain "didn't get the job done" on a healthcare programme for veterans called the Veteran's Choice Act. Mr Trump instead said, "I got it done", despite the fact McCain was the author of the bill, which came into law in 2014.
Mr Trump was merely president when Congress last year passed a new version of the programme.
His outburst is just the latest in a series of attacks against McCain in recent days. Earlier this week, the president described McCain’s Obamacare no-vote as “disgraceful”, and over the weekend falsely claimed on Twitter McCain finished “last in his class” at the US Naval Academy in Annapolis.
This iframe is not allowedAlthough the pair repeatedly clashed during and after the 2016 presidential campaign, Mr Trump's continued jibes even after death has drawn criticism from both lawmakers and McCain’s family.
The late senator’s daughter, Meghan McCain, on Wednesday said of her father: “He would think it was hilarious that our president was so jealous of him, that he was dominating the news cycle in death as well.”
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What petty deplorable scum we have in this 'president'
Even Johnny Isakson called it "deplorable." Now where did we hear that word to describe Scumbag & Co. before?
Trump deserves no thanks for allegedly agreeing to something Senator John McCain earned many times over for his service to this nation!
True, he deserves thanks for nothing
What a lying asshole.
My wife, who is not very political, exploded this morning during the morning newscast about this.
Just when you thought the shit stain couldn't stink any worse, Trump brings a whole new meaning to the word foul.
He doesn't approve of McCain lying in state, that is done by congress.
Can he ever stop lying.
All that POS Scumbag did was authorize the military escort for his coffin. I hope he keeps doing this act at his rallies because it bombed horribly in OH the other day.
Trump complains. And yet again.
Doesn't matter anymore. Supposedly the Trump will be re-elected and the Mueller Report will not be released for years.
When did John McCain become this unimpeachable perfect person? You'd think he was Jesus Christ himself the way people rush to his defense. And I say this as someone who voted for the man in November of 2008. He had some good qualities, to be sure, but not everything he did was the right thing. I also say this as someone who has advocated for many veterans, but the fact that you wore a uniform for this country doesn't mean you are 100% free from criticism until the end of time.
The hypocrisy of this is shocking. The media and Democrats ripped on this guy for years when he was alive - in spite of his laudable military service. And now - suddenly - it's like forevermore until the end of time, no one can say anything bad him.
But wait. Is it just anyone being critical? No, not just anyone. It's Trump. That's what's different. Trump is the one criticizing McCain, and because they hate Trump so much, McCain has become Holy Saint John of Arizona. So spare me the outrage. It's bogus. It's all political.
I guess. If 7 months ago is "recently." What is the standard for when you get to say something about a dead person?
These same people ready to run into traffic to protect the memory of St. John have had no problem saying the worst things about Ronald Reagan, Antonin Scalia, or Margaret Thatcher - all of whom are also dead conservatives. And, by the way, many of them had no compunctions at all about saying critical things of these dead people even when they were "recently" deceased. There were people right here on NT who had some pretty harsh things to say about Scalia and Thatcher on the very day that they died, nevermind 7 months later. So don't talk to me about "recently deceased," or about always speaking well of the dead.
I said that in here once, and was accused (not by you) of insulting our military. It's the truth, though.
What bothers me here is Trump claiming that McCain wasn't a war hero because he was captured, while Trump dodged the draft with "bone spurs" while also claiming he was an incredible athlete in school. Now he's lying about McCain's funeral and whining about not getting a thank you for something he didn't even do. And instead of being a dignified President and talking about the killings by white supremacists in New Zealand, he decided it was more important to insult a dead war hero. It's funny how McCain gets under Trump's skin even after he's dead, simply because he was much more admired than Trump. And that is something Trump simply cannot tolerate. He hated the attention McCain got while he was dying, and has never recovered from that. He's the ultimate snowflake.
Oh yeah, don't get me wrong. I think most of the criticisms that Trump has leveled at John McCain are well . . . bullshit. I also think it's petty and stupid for Trump to keep on with it. I just can't believe I'm seeing liberal media and politicians clutching their collective pearls and speaking of the man as if the sun shone straight out of his ass.
Good point.
Nobody has spoken of him 'like the sun shone straight out of his ass'
Amazing how many Dems became McCain fans only after he was criticized by Trump.
Tacos.... I was very close to voting for him in 2008, but SP changed that.
Johnny Mac had enough ice water in his veins to land on carriers wearing one of the uniforms that guard our way of life. That alone should be enough to garner respect of those that care enough to really think about it. The only people I have ever heard that have trashed J-Mac are people at Fox Nation or Brietbart that harbor the lie that he started the Forrestal fire. To be honest, I don't recall ANYONE left or right here on NT that ever disparaged the man. They may have not agreed with his political positions, but the man.... never.
It's an idiom. It means that the person being spoken of is considered to be above reproach - i.e. it would be wrong to criticize him. So yes, lots of people are speaking of him in exactly that way.
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Just because it's easier for me to search the internet than this site in particular, I'll give you some examples of what I mean.
John McCain Is the Perfect American Lie
Does John McCain even know what’s going on?
Schumer: 'Hit McCain harder'
Jimmy Carter: McCain a 'warmonger'
DESPITE WHAT THE PRESS SAYS, “MAVERICK” MCCAIN HAS A LONG AND DISTINGUISHED RECORD OF HORRIBLENESS
Commentary: Is McCain out of his mind?
What the Media Leaves Out of John McCain’s Record of Misogyny and Militarism
Some on left target McCain's war record
Is there sinister subtext in McCain ads?
A ‘Maverick,’ Revisited
Civil rights icon says McCain stirs hate
There is plenty more out there, of course.
And here's a nice analysis of the media coverage of McCain in 2008 versus the coverage of Obama. Unsurprisingly, the coverage for McCain was more in the negative.
How the Press Reported the 2008 General Election
Then you should have no problem with Trump attacking him.
Not to mention Obama claiming his 2008 campaign was racist.
When, where?
More amazing (read: disgusting) is how wingers who used to try to use McCain's heroism hoping (in vain) that some of it might rub off on them. McCain was conservative and I never cared for his politics but I knew he was a decent man, and as such among the very few Republicans I could say that about. The person who should be most ashamed in this country right now is Lindsay Graham who continues to remain silent while Scumbag disparages the man that Graham used to pretend was his friend. With friends like that no one needs enemies.
Wow!
We have a seed about two Republicans, so who does Sean bring up?
Why? I do.
Your charts and links are off topic but I know the moderators won't remove it.
What does the fucking tone of coverage have to do with anything?
President Obama got nothing but negative coverage
Your unwavering defense of the turd is duly noted. Move along now Tacos, move along.
The links were not offered for you. That attitude, though, is why I don't respond to your demands for links. You dismiss them because you don't really want to see evidence supporting another point of view.
Nowhere here have I defended a person. All I have defended is the validity of anyone to criticize him because he is not immune from criticism. The thing I did with my links was to point out that many people used to criticize him eagerly. You might not understand that because it wasn't part of a conversation I was having with you.
And, naturally, makes a false claim about him.
McCain was far from perfect just like many of us. I did not always agree with him on his policies. I respected him not only for his service to this country during time of war, but also because I always believed he honestly felt he was doing what he thought was the right thing for the American people during his years in office.It
Was always a fan of J Mac for being willing to cross the aisle and seek out moderates to work with.
As a liberal centrist, almost voted for him. And then he did the unthinkable and picked Palin for VP.
He admitted that Palin was the worst mistake he ever got talked into.
Looking for another Obama to vote for. I'd actually vote for Obama a third time.
I'd love to know where y'all get your crystal balls.
So you like that garbage coming out of Scumbag's hole, do you?
Read the thread before you post. Please. I wrote this in @5.1.1
My problem with this whole thing is the goddamn lying trmp is doing concerning McCain's funeral.
tmp DID NOT APPROVE his funeral. There is a link out there about the National Cathedral issuing such a statement. And when I'm done here I will go find it.
How....and WHY?????????????????? do you people keep finding things to like about this boil on the ass of America????????????
brb
damn that was really easy:
Thanks for the link Giggles. Good reading.
Thanks TG!
And that's a festering pus filled boil
Never.
The issue isn't about whether McCain is unimpeachable, in fact, it's not about McCain at all.
The issue is Trump punching down, for some perceived gain, against someone who can't defend himself.
As with everything else Trump does, he is doing so with LIES. Trump's lied about the what McCain said about his intentions on the healthcare vote, he lied about the bill being 'repeal and replace', he lied about being responsible for McCain's funeral. That was just yesterday in ONE speech.
Debating about documented POLITICAL differences is one thing, past and present leadership from all eras are far game.
Attempting to disparage the service and now the memory of someone with LIES is a different thing entirely and THAT is what Trump has been doing.
Trump diminishes himself every time he does so. Trump was small from the start, now he is Lilliputian.
'But, Mr. President, he's dead': Trump defends his attacks against McCain in Fox interview
WASHINGTON – President Donald Trump defended his harsh criticism of the late Sen. John McCain in an interview with Fox Business Network , blaming the news media for bringing up the feud and continuing to highlight it in daily coverage.
"I don't talk about it. People ask me the question, I didn't bring this up," Trump told host Maria Bartiromo in an interview set to air Friday. "You just brought it up, you asked the question."
Bartiromo questioned why the president continues to publicly assail McCain, a Vietnam veteran and lifelong Republican who died last August after battling brain cancer. The criticism started again last weekend after Trump sent a series of tweets attacking McCain for his handling of a dossier compiled by a former British spy on Trump's relationship with Russia leading up to the 2016 election.
The tweets led to widespread criticism, including from some Republicans. That hasn't deterred Trump from continuing to voice his disdain for the late senator .
Timeline: What's driving Donald Trump's feud with John McCain? War record, Obamacare among the themes
"I endorsed him at his request and I gave him the kind of funeral that he wanted, which as president I had to approve," Trump told a crowd in Ohio on Wednesday . "I don't care about this, I didn’t get 'thank you.' That’s OK."
Bartiromo asked why the president was continuing the attacks. "You spent a good portion of your time in Ohio the other day trashing John McCain. Sen. John McCain is dead, why are you doing this?" she asked.
"It's not a good portion of my time, it's a very small portion," Trump responded and added, "If you realize about three days ago, it came out that his main person gave to the FBI the fake news dossier. It was a fake, it was a fraud, it was paid for by Hillary Clinton and the Democrats. They gave it to John McCain who gave it to the FBI for very evil purposes, that's not good."
The president then criticized McCain for his votes that prevented Republicans from repealing Obamacare — a tipping point in their already-fragile relationship.
"And the other thing he voted against repeal and replace, now he's been campaigning for years for repeal and replace. I'm not a fan. After all of this time, think of this, repeal and replace, we would have had great health care," Trump said.
"But, Mr. President, he's dead," Bartiromo said. "He can't punch back. I know you punch back, but he's dead."
'The country deserves better': Republican Sen. Johnny Isakson says Trump to get 'whipping' over John McCain attacks
Trump blamed the media, saying reporters continue to ask him about McCain. "When they ask me the question, I answer the question," he said.
"But you people bring it up, I don't bring it up," Trump added. "I'm not a fan. He was horrible what he did with repeal and replace. What he did to the Republican Party and to the nation, and to sick people that could have had great health care, was not good. So, I’m not a fan of John McCain and that's fine."
Contributing: John Fritze, Michael Collins and David Jackson, USA TODAY
This article originally appeared on USA TODAY: 'But, Mr. President, he's dead': Trump defends his attacks against McCain in Fox interview
How is the 'president' being attacked, all day, every day, where it is not warranted???
I love how he thinks people should thank him when they tell him to fuck off and he actually doesn't show up.
Biggest fuck head to ever walk the planet, without a doubt.
Actually, I just read a new report that an Aide to John McCain said that Trump was indeed thanked for the funeral. another of Trump's lies to try to justify his vicious attacks on a dead person who can't defend themselves, as well as attack members of McCain's family who go to his defense against the immoral and vicious attacks on their Father.
Trump is as low as any amoeba can go.
Here's a link to the article.
C ontrary to what President Trump said this week, he was thanked for his involvement with Sen. John McCain's funeral in Washington last year.
Rick Davis, McCain’s former campaign manager, thanked the Trump administration on behalf of the McCain family in August during a press conference.
“The combined efforts of the Trump administration, the White House, Secretary [Jim] Mattis, and the Department of Defense especially, and the Military District of Washington are very experienced in these issues related to the logistics of a funeral of this magnitude. And we really thank them for coming together very quickly and pulling together all the federal resources," Davis said.
I think Trump is peeved because John McCain didn't rise from the dead and thank him personally.
You very well may be right, Sister. After all, Trump did give his approval to allow McCain to lie in state in the Rotunda before his funeral. And Trump did personally approve all of McCain's funeral arrangements.
At least all according to Trump.......otherwise, none of it would have happened without Trumps approval.
Well, we know what Scumbag means by not being "thanked." As with any raging narcissist, he demands constant and flattery and adulation.
Don't be mean to amoebas (amoebae?)
They just want to swim around and not bother anyone whereas trmp.....
I suppose McCain should be floating around the Oval Office givings thanks to the orange baby-man every night
D'you know... even after two years of multiple lies every day... it did not occur to me that the President - any semi-decent human being - could lie about this.
There's no bottom to this cesspit!
When I mentioned amoeba I was referencing to how utterly small and useless Trump is.
Indeed he does. And the more he opens his toxic mouth, the less he deserves either one.
Thank you for the link, SP. Trump does not know yet that, in his own best interest, he should be seen and not heard.
And those who avidly continue to support him says a great deal about them as well. It would seem that Trump is deliberately trying his best to destroy and credibility the Republican part may have left at this point.
However, perhaps we are they re beginning to see a small spark of reality of what kind of person Trump really is, as many are now breaking with Trump on various important issues. And Trump's manic and gross grave dancing on McCain and attacks on his family who come to McCain's defense, is an issue that appears to be giving them a real eye opening as to just how low and disgustingly dirty Trump he is more than happy to go.
He is an embarrassment to the party and detrimental to the already questionable credibility of the Republican party. And his joyous grave dancing with McCain may be the straw that breaks the camel's back. While it is true that there will always be those who will support him no matter how diabolical and rabid Trump gets, there are more and more who are stepping back and taking a harder look at Trump's unfavorable affect on their own vulnerable future electability.
JMOO
I doubt that the Republican Party cares in the slightest.
It is possible, though, that they fear an electoral carnage if they let him continue to do whatever. They have no principles... but they do have electoral savvy.
Yeah just when you think the turd couldn't possibly sink any lower . . . . .
I disagree. While there are a good many who really don't care about the reputation of their party, thus, themselves as members of it, there does seem to be some who do care. They seem to realize that it simply can't continue on this path of destruction that Trump has created for them and expect to make political headway going forward.
After all, voters are fickle, and while there may be a base to lean on, the base alone is not sufficient to always guarantee a win, no matter who sits in the Oval office.
Thus, I think the majority of the Republicans will be looking for an alternative to Trump in 2020.
And yes....the same can be said of the other side of the aisle.
I meant that they don't care about their credibility. For sure they care about their electoral future!
So I agree that at some point they may begin to see Trump as a liability... for the future of the party.
The problem is that so many GOP Congressmen and Senators are in "safe" seats, where Trump is popular with the base. So there's a big difference between the long-term future of the party, and their own next election.
So... dunno...
The question is, how long will those 'safe seats' last once the base becomes so small as to lose having any real affect on the election. There will always be those on both sides that are die-hard party liners, but, once their numbers become so small as to lack any real influence on the outcome of the election, then they are are of not real threat to rival candidates.
I think we may see that kind of situation come about in the upcoming election. Especially, if Trump keeps making a total asinine fool out of the Republican party as he is doing now. His mouth will be their worst enemy as a party. Even the best qualified candidates may find it hard to win enough votes to keep their seats, especially, those who cling to Trumps boot straps.
Just my own opinion, but, as I see it, if the base is all that he and those clinging to his coat tails have going for them, they may find themselves on the outside looking in. They would be better off not relying only on the base for their 'safe seats'.
You could be right, Muva. The Republican party reinvented itself with the Tea Party took it over for a while, and then when Trump took it over. Neither new invention really did the party any good. Both tainted the party's credibility and led to losses it could ill afford.
With the retaking of the House by the Democrats I see this happening again. I was a member of the Republican party for most of my adult life. However, when the Tea Party took over I began to lose my faith in the party, and now that Trump has totally trashed the party to that of nothing but a Dictatorship wannabe and street thugs, I could never again support it as long as this kind of garbage party exists.
However, I am not a Democrat either, as there is much about that party that I can't agree with either.
So yes, I think there is a third party that will appear that will shake both the Republican and Democrat parties to their roots. It will be the party of, and for, the American people as a whole. Not just of and for special interests and the rich that exists now on both sides. The working class no longer has fair representation, and that is what America is based upon. And the only way it can survive.
JMOO
I could never image you as being one, Muva. However, there are some who fit the picture to at "T".
True. There are a lot of things going on... and we don't know which will coto fruition first.
I hope you're right.
I hope so too. Despite what some think, America cannot survive being an isolationist country. The world is simply too small today for any sizable country to be able to survive as a stand alone country.
By alienating our primary allies Trump has put America in a perilous position, and he obviously doesn't care, thinking that he and he alone can save America. Sadly, those in his immediate base feed on his lies and and accept them lock, stock and barrel, which will be to their detriment in the near future.
Grave Dancing on McCain with his vicious, undeserved attacks on a dead man and his family is the lowest of low in most people's book, and even if they may not voice it, it seems a large portion of Republicans are disgusted and sickened by it. And rightfully so. No decent person man would stoop so low as to Grave Dance on someone who cannot defend themselves no matter how much the person is disliked by someone. And Trump's own actions clearly proves beyond a doubt that he truly has no morals.
True, true, and true.
I hope it matters.
There is no bottom to that septic tank.
The worst President ever