BREAKING NEWS: Connecticut woman says then-Vice President Joe Biden touched her inappropriately at a Greenwich fundraiser in 2009

  
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BREAKING NEWS: Connecticut woman says then-Vice President Joe Biden touched her inappropriately at a Greenwich fundraiser in 2009

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A Connecticut woman says Joe Biden touched her inappropriately and rubbed noses with her during a 2009 political fundraiser in Greenwich when he was vice president, drawing further scrutiny to the Democrat and his history of unwanted contact with women as he ponders a presidential run.

"It wasn't sexual, but he did grab me by the head," Amy Lappos told The Courant Monday. "He put his hand around my neck and pulled me in to rub noses with me. When he was pulling me in, I thought he was going to kiss me on the mouth."

Lappos posted about the alleged incident on the Facebook page of Connecticut Women in Politics Sunday in response to a similar account by former Nevada legislator Lucy Flores, which comes as Biden is considering a 2020 run for president. Flores accused Biden of kissing her on the back of her head in 2014, when she was a candidate for lieutenant governor.

Lappos, 43, who is now a freelance worker with nonprofit agencies, said she felt extremely uncomfortable when Biden approached her at the 2009 fundraiser for U.S. Rep. Jim Himes, D-4th, where she was volunteering. At the time, Lappos was a congressional aide to Himes, who she said was not in the room when the incident took place.

"I never filed a complaint, to be honest, because he was the vice president. I was a nobody," Lappos said. "There's absolutely a line of decency. There's a line of respect. Crossing that line is not grandfatherly. It's not cultural. It's not affection. It's sexism or misogyny."

A spokeswoman for Biden declined to respond to the allegations by Lappos and instead offered a statement that Biden issued Sunday about the Flores controversy.

"In my many years on the campaign trail and in public life, I have offered countless handshakes, hugs, expressions of affection, support and comfort. And not once - never - did I believe I acted inappropriately," Biden said. "If it is suggested I did so, I will listen respectfully. But it was never my intention. I may not recall these moments the same way, and I may be surprised at what I hear. But we have arrived at an important time when women feel they can and should relate their experiences, and men should pay attention. And I will."

Himes, who is in his sixth term as the congressman for southwestern Connecticut, said he first learned Monday about the allegation by Lappos and was not prepared to immediately comment.

The $1,000-per-plate luncheon with Biden took place at Oct. 5, 2009, at the Cliffdale Road home of affordable housing developer Ron Moelis. Future Sens. Richard Blumenthal and Chris Murphy were in attendance, as well as future Gov. Dannel P. Malloy.

Biden spoke for about 20 minutes outside the home on a terrace, which was open to the media. Reporters were not allowed inside the house, which is where Lappos said the incident took place. Lappos appeared in three photos with Biden at the event, which she said were taken after his remarks and before the incident. She said she was in the kitchen with four to five other volunteers, when Biden moved toward her.

Bob Natt, a major contributor to Democrats and an Easton resident, said he and his wife had their photo taken with Biden and did not witness anything questionable.

“The entire photo session was in good fun and Joe did nothing inappropriate,” said Natt, who shared photos from the event with The Courant.

In her Facebook post, Lappos used the pseudonym Alice Paul, the suffragist who championed the 19th Amendment giving women the right to vote and the Equal Rights Amendment, to discuss her exchange with Biden.

"Biden did something similar to me at a fundraiser in Greenwich when I was a congressional aide," Lappos wrote in her Facebook post. "I'm really disappointed to see this [Facebook] post ask 'thoughts' as if the grossness of men invading women's boundaries to sniff and touch is debatable. And shame on some of the women here excusing this as boys being boys or it's not as bad as Trump. I can speak from experience when I say it's an incredibly uncomfortable situation and not at all acceptable. We need to hold our men to the same standards we hold all men."


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βΔĐ₣ƗŞĦ ĦΔŇĐ Ø₣ ĐØØΜ
1  seeder  βΔĐ₣ƗŞĦ ĦΔŇĐ Ø₣ ĐØØΜ    2 months ago

It's starting to sprinkle but I see storm clouds on the horizon......

 
 
 
JohnRussell
2  JohnRussell    2 months ago

Unless one or more of these women allege something along the line of Trumpish behavior (we know what that is), this should either come to a halt, or frankly, be ignored. 

For better or worse Biden is 76 years old. If he was brought up to believe it is ok to place his hands on a womans shoulders as a (even momentary) show of affection , it is what it is. All things considered , it is not enough to disqualify him for the nomination, and certainly not for the presidency itself (given the current occupant). 

Trump himself told Howard Stern that he used to enter teenage beauty contestants dressing rooms without knocking , asserting his "right" as the owner of the pageant. 

If that didnt bother the voters, Biden putting his hands on someones shoulders should be a non starter. 

 
 
 
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2.1  seeder  βΔĐ₣ƗŞĦ ĦΔŇĐ Ø₣ ĐØØΜ  replied to  JohnRussell @2    2 months ago

Biden won't make it through the circus primary. They are going to take him out early with the help of the media. Male candidates have to tuck their junk and denounce their toxic masculinity and carry a man purse to win the primary.

Now if Biden were to say that he has lived his whole life a man but now identifies as a Giraffe and asks for forgiveness he might have a chance. 

A Hispanic Moniker would be help too. Jose instead of Joe.

 
 
 
WallyW
2.2  WallyW  replied to  JohnRussell @2    2 months ago
this should either come to a halt, or frankly, be ignored. 

Sexual harassment and inappropriate touching of women should never be ignored.

If it was wrong for Trump to do it, then it's wrong for Biden to do it.

 
 
 
Tessylo
2.2.1  Tessylo  replied to  WallyW @2.2    2 months ago

She said it wasn't sexual.

How is it sexual assault?

 
 
 
Galen Marvin Ross
2.2.2  Galen Marvin Ross  replied to  WallyW @2.2    2 months ago
Sexual harassment and inappropriate touching of women should never be ignored. If it was wrong for Trump to do it, then it's wrong for Biden to do it.

And, yet, you still support Trump. Go figure.

 
 
 
Snuffy
2.3  Snuffy  replied to  JohnRussell @2    2 months ago

While I believe this issue in reality is minor and should not prevent him from running,  even you should admit the reaction is quite different than the reaction during the Kavanugh hearings where it was beat in that 'we must believe the women'.

 
 
 
βΔĐ₣ƗŞĦ ĦΔŇĐ Ø₣ ĐØØΜ
2.3.1  seeder  βΔĐ₣ƗŞĦ ĦΔŇĐ Ø₣ ĐØØΜ  replied to  Snuffy @2.3    2 months ago

It looks like the left is just beginning their attacks on Biden. They have a conga line of victims the plan to put on display.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
2.3.2  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  βΔĐ₣ƗŞĦ ĦΔŇĐ Ø₣ ĐØØΜ @2.3.1    2 months ago

And you are doing what? Helping?

Everything that Biden has done has been in the public eye.

 
 
 
βΔĐ₣ƗŞĦ ĦΔŇĐ Ø₣ ĐØØΜ
2.3.3  seeder  βΔĐ₣ƗŞĦ ĦΔŇĐ Ø₣ ĐØØΜ  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @2.3.2    2 months ago

I report, you decide.

Unlike many here I don't help or hurt I seed articles and you decide for yourself. I don't author opinion pieces running cover for Joe Biden or write smears. I seed.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
2.3.4  Trout Giggles  replied to  βΔĐ₣ƗŞĦ ĦΔŇĐ Ø₣ ĐØØΜ @2.3.3    2 months ago

But you do seed opinion pieces

 
 
 
βΔĐ₣ƗŞĦ ĦΔŇĐ Ø₣ ĐØØΜ
2.3.5  seeder  βΔĐ₣ƗŞĦ ĦΔŇĐ Ø₣ ĐØØΜ  replied to  Trout Giggles @2.3.4    2 months ago

This is a pure news story.

 
 
 
It Is ME
2.3.6  It Is ME  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @2.3.2    2 months ago
Everything that Biden has done has been in the public eye.

What's that old saying …….

"Turn a "BLIND" eye ?

Joe's been a full blown "Groper" for quite some time now. jrSmiley_95_smiley_image.png

but.....he's a nice GROPER !

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
2.3.7  Trout Giggles  replied to  βΔĐ₣ƗŞĦ ĦΔŇĐ Ø₣ ĐØØΜ @2.3.5    2 months ago

This one is but you have seeded opinion pieces

 
 
 
squiggy
2.3.8  squiggy  replied to  βΔĐ₣ƗŞĦ ĦΔŇĐ Ø₣ ĐØØΜ @2.3.1    2 months ago

"It looks like the left is just beginning their attacks on Biden."

Metered - one a week. The finale should be a doozy.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
2.3.9  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  βΔĐ₣ƗŞĦ ĦΔŇĐ Ø₣ ĐØØΜ @2.3.3    2 months ago
I don't author opinion pieces running cover for Joe Biden or write smears. I seed.

Are you implying that I ran a piece to protect Biden? I'll wait for an answer.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
2.3.10  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  It Is ME @2.3.6    2 months ago

Strange how you turn a blind eye to Trump's pussy grabbing. How does that work?

 
 
 
It Is ME
2.3.11  It Is ME  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @2.3.10    2 months ago

Your wanting to talk about "Trump" now ?

I thought "Going back in time" was considered "Off Topic' on an article ! jrSmiley_27_smiley_image.gif

Who knew it wasn't …..NOW ! jrSmiley_87_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
βΔĐ₣ƗŞĦ ĦΔŇĐ Ø₣ ĐØØΜ
2.3.12  seeder  βΔĐ₣ƗŞĦ ĦΔŇĐ Ø₣ ĐØØΜ  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @2.3.9    2 months ago

You ran a piece to cover men in general I agree with parts of it. I seeded this because we discuss the news and this broke yesterday. A simple google search today will show you every major news organization is running the story. It's seed worthy whether or not you like it.

See your below comments, if this is a hit piece in which it's not, it's news. Yours is a cover Biden because you want to vote for him piece.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
2.3.13  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  βΔĐ₣ƗŞĦ ĦΔŇĐ Ø₣ ĐØØΜ @2.3.12    2 months ago

This is a hit piece, just like what happened with Kavanaugh, and actually, you are proving my point with my article. 

Yours is a cover Biden because you want to vote for him piece.

Excuse me? I do believe my article was about Ms.Flores, not Biden. He just was the unhappy recipient of the attack. I am assuming you read it.

 
 
 
Split Personality
2.3.14  Split Personality  replied to  βΔĐ₣ƗŞĦ ĦΔŇĐ Ø₣ ĐØØΜ @2.3.12    2 months ago

The title is incorrect Fish.

"Breaking News" is not in the title of the seed. 

 
 
 
βΔĐ₣ƗŞĦ ĦΔŇĐ Ø₣ ĐØØΜ
2.3.15  seeder  βΔĐ₣ƗŞĦ ĦΔŇĐ Ø₣ ĐØØΜ  replied to  Split Personality @2.3.14    2 months ago

Raiding the dime store of knit-picky?

LOL anything to undermine a seed you don't like?

We have a flagging function so you don't have to violate the coc with meta.

 
 
 
Split Personality
2.3.16  Split Personality  replied to  βΔĐ₣ƗŞĦ ĦΔŇĐ Ø₣ ĐØØΜ @2.3.15    2 months ago
Raiding the dime store of knit-picky?

Nope, same rules apply to everyone right?

Perrie says it's OK so I too will gladly stick "BREAKING NEWS:" in every title of every seed I promote.

OK?

We have a flagging function so you don't have to violate the coc with meta.

Brilliant tactic accusing someone of meta with a meta comment! jrSmiley_97_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
βΔĐ₣ƗŞĦ ĦΔŇĐ Ø₣ ĐØØΜ
2.3.17  seeder  βΔĐ₣ƗŞĦ ĦΔŇĐ Ø₣ ĐØØΜ  replied to  Split Personality @2.3.16    2 months ago

If it makes you feel better to use Breaking News before your seed title, have at it. Just don't forget your :

As for a tactic? You know what meta is.

Further Meta will be removed......jrSmiley_30_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
JBB
2.3.18  JBB  replied to  βΔĐ₣ƗŞĦ ĦΔŇĐ Ø₣ ĐØØΜ @2.3.17    2 months ago

[deleted]

 
 
 
Rmando
2.4  Rmando  replied to  JohnRussell @2    2 months ago

"Trump himself told Howard Stern that he used to enter teenage beauty contestants dressing rooms without knocking , asserting his "right" as the owner of the pageant."

Right, because no private citizen has gone on the Stern show and made up some over the top claims just to impress Howard....

 
 
 
SteevieGee
2.4.1  SteevieGee  replied to  Rmando @2.4    2 months ago
Right, because no private citizen has gone on the Stern show and made up some over the top claims just to impress Howard....

Did he tell Howard that Mexico would pay for the wall?

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
2.4.2  Trout Giggles  replied to  Rmando @2.4    2 months ago

So you admit that trmp lies bigly

 
 
 
Rmando
2.4.3  Rmando  replied to  SteevieGee @2.4.1    2 months ago

"Did he tell Howard that Mexico would pay for the wall?"

Most people who know the crisis going on at the border probably don't care who pays for it. If you have an emergency you don't stop to think how to pay the firemen to put out your house or the doctor in the ER.

But for what it's worth Trump yanking money from Central America might encourage Mexico to put up a little effort in stopping the invasion.

 
 
 
Rmando
2.4.4  Rmando  replied to  Trout Giggles @2.4.2    2 months ago

"So you admit that trmp lies bigly"

I admit everybody on Howard's show lies because he is a schock jock and outrageous stories are his bread and butter. That doesn't mean they're true stories.

 
 
 
Galen Marvin Ross
2.4.5  Galen Marvin Ross  replied to  Rmando @2.4.3    2 months ago
Most people who know the crisis going on at the border probably don't care who pays for it. If you have an emergency you don't stop to think how to pay the firemen to put out your house or the doctor in the ER.

The people of El Paso Texas tell a different story, I think I'll believe them over Trump and, his minions.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
2.4.6  Trout Giggles  replied to  Rmando @2.4.4    2 months ago

trmp can do no wrong in your eyes, can he?

 
 
 
Galen Marvin Ross
2.4.7  Galen Marvin Ross  replied to  Rmando @2.4.4    2 months ago
I admit everybody on Howard's show lies because he is a schock jock and outrageous stories are his bread and butter. That doesn't mean they're true stories.

How about that impromptu open mic moment during his Access Hollywood interview?

You give Trump a pass for this but, you think that Biden should be punished for less. Hypocrite much?

 
 
 
XDm9mm
2.4.8  XDm9mm  replied to  Galen Marvin Ross @2.4.5    2 months ago
The people of El Paso Texas tell a different story, I think I'll believe them over Trump and, his minions.

It seems the mayor of El Paso is singing a slightly different tune now.

DAVID GREENE, HOST:

And let's go now to one of the cities that's being impacted by all of this that John mentioned, the city of El Paso, Texas. We have the city's mayor on the line with us, Dee Margo.

Mayor, thanks for taking the time. We appreciate it.

DEE MARGO: Sure. Happy to be here.

GREENE: John describing there migrants being held in pens underneath a highway bridge. Have you seen this?

MARGO: Yes. I have. He's correct.

GREENE: Can you...

MARGO: They're overwhelmed.

GREENE: Describe that to me, if you can.

MARGO: Well, the problem is the numbers that he referred to. You know, in fiscal year 2017, we had 12,000 come north from Central America that affected it in our fiscal year for El Paso. In '18, we had 18,000. Our fiscal year is 9-1 to 8-31. Since 9-1 of last year, to date, we've had 50,000 in El Paso. And it's all as a result of - excuse me - the laws. CBP's doing all they can do. ICE is doing all they can do. But people don't understand that there wasn't - the Trafficking Victim Protection Reauthorization Act of 2008...

GREENE: OK.

MARGO: ...Which was a magnanimous gesture on behalf of our nation because of Central American youth and unaccompanied minors coming through Mexico up to the United States - we were concerned about the Mexican cartels grabbing these children or young people and turning them into drug mules or human trafficking that we made it easier to have asylum declared at our borders from Central America. The irony of it is that this law doesn't apply to Mexico. That's why we're not having the Mexicans come across.

GREENE: But you're saying that that law is what's leading to these big numbers that we're seeing today?

MARGO: I can guarantee it is. It is. It makes it too easy to...

GREENE: What is the solution?

MARGO: ...Except for asylum.

GREENE: What is the solution? What are you calling on Congress to do, if that's who you're pointing the finger at here?

MARGO: Well, they've got to revamp this law and the whole immigration process. They've not done anything for 30 years. There's been no intestinal fortitude exhibited on either side of the aisle, and our president needs to take the lead there. That's the humanitarian crisis, is changing the law. That's the problem.

GREENE: Can I just ask you - I mean, one person who has thought about this, the border, a lot is President Trump. And he just sent out a tweet just a few minutes ago. I mean, he said Mexico is doing nothing to help stop the flow of immigrants, that they're all talk and no action, and he says may close the southern border, exclamation point. Would that be helpful?

MARGO: From my vantage point, no. We have a hundred billion-plus in trade back and forth in imports and exports. We have six of the 28 bridges that cross from Texas to Mexico. They're taking people off our bridges. The wait time - we have 23,000 legal pedestrians that come north every day. We've got 13 million vehicles that come north every year. It affects us all the way around, from commerce - and the wait times on the bridges are approaching two hours. That's an environmental issue, while cars are just sitting there idling. It's a major problem. But the issue is not just Mexico and whatever they're doing. The issue is the lack of action by our Congress to deal with this.

GREENE: What does your city need most right now in dealing with these numbers going up so high?

MARGO: Well, we have an NGO called the Annunciation House that's processing them. They're not here longer than usually 24 to 48 hours, but we're becoming overwhelmed with the numbers. And our city office of emergency management does whatever it can do in the way of providing security and sometimes our - transportation is required. But you also have a lot of these migrants that are coming north with chicken pox, and mumps and things like that. So there are significant health issues.

GREENE: Dee Margo is the mayor of El Paso, Texas, joining us this morning. Thank you so much, Mayor.

MARGO: You bet. Transcript provided by NPR, Copyright NPR.

Source:  https://www.wwno.org/post/el-paso-mayor-assesses-situation-us-border-mexico
 
 
 
Galen Marvin Ross
2.4.9  Galen Marvin Ross  replied to  XDm9mm @2.4.8    2 months ago

Let's try this,

The San Ysidro crossing is the biggest passenger land port in the Western hemisphere -- just closing it alone would be hugely disruptive. Every day, an average of 120,000 commuter vehicles, 6,000 trucks and 63,000 pedestrians use the border gateway, many to go to and from their jobs in the U.S.
Sealing the entire border between the countries, meanwhile, would cause economic chaos. In 2017, about $558 billion in goods flowed across the U.S.- Mexico border in both directions, making Mexico our third-biggest trading partner for goods behind Canada and China. U.S. goods exported to Mexico totaled $243.3 billion, while trade in services accounted for another $58 billion.
Trucks transport the bulk of goods: In all of 2018, $424 million -- 69 percent of all southern border freight -- crossed in from Mexico by truck, according to the U.S. Bureau of Transportation Statistics. That's up 10 percent from the amount of freight that crossed over in 2017. Two of the busiest truck border ports are Laredo and El Paso, both in Texas. Another $78 billion in freight crossed by rail, $67 billion by vessel, $17 billion by air, and $5 billion by pipeline.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/what-president-trumps-threat-to-close-the-u-s-mexico-border-would-cost/

 
 
 
XDm9mm
2.4.10  XDm9mm  replied to  Galen Marvin Ross @2.4.9    2 months ago
Let's try this,

And what exactly is your point?

Which country do you believe would weather a shut down better?  The United States, with a GDP of roughly 20.5 TRILLION as opposed to Mexico, with a GDP of roughly 1.5 Trillion.  You DO realize don't you that the numbers indicate that the US GDP is larger monthly than that of the annual Mexico GDP?

If I was a betting man, I'd put my money of the US winning that little tiff hands down.

 
 
 
squiggy
2.4.11  squiggy  replied to  Galen Marvin Ross @2.4.7    2 months ago

We heard the whole salvo before Trump was elected. Now it's Gaffer's turn in the box. I'm sure all the new, proud, red northern Virginians will be proud of Biden.

 
 
 
Split Personality
2.4.12  Split Personality  replied to  Galen Marvin Ross @2.4.5    2 months ago

I can't remember which channel I was watching last night, but they interviewed a recently retired 30 year CBP agent who said he remembers 1986 and 2000 very well,

when they apprehended & processed twice as many immigrants with 1/2 the budget and 1/3 of the agents they have now,

many of whom are always pictured standing around waiting for something.

Then they interviewed the 20 year Congressman Reyes who Beto beat and he said that the sky was not falling, El Paso is safe

and if Trump shuts the boarder, "he's nuts" because the damage will be equal to both countries.

 
 
 
Rmando
2.4.13  Rmando  replied to  Galen Marvin Ross @2.4.7    2 months ago

"You give Trump a pass for this but, you think that Biden should be punished for less. Hypocrite much?"

I never said Biden should be punished for anything.  I actually don't care what happens to him. Frankly I think the reaction is overblown, though I wouldn't call his familiar behavior wise in this day and age. I'm just enjoying Democrats not holding Biden or any other Dem to the same standard they hold Republicans.

As for the tape- there's a huge difference between a crude private conversation between two men and actually physical contact   with women- especially when that person is VP. But I don't think either is a disqualifier.

 
 
 
SteevieGee
2.4.14  SteevieGee  replied to  Rmando @2.4.3    2 months ago
If you have an emergency you don't stop to think how to pay the firemen to put out your house or the doctor in the ER.

I don't have to think about paying the firemen because where I live the fire department is a government socialist entity.  The doctor in the ER is a different story and if Republicans get their way on healthcare I will probably be left out to die.

 
 
 
Ronin2
2.5  Ronin2  replied to  JohnRussell @2    2 months ago

The left only pretends to be better than the right. 

If the Dems had no options they would defend Biden the same way they defended Bill Clinton.  But the Democratic Presidential candidate clown car is already overflowing, and the media is granting the far left lunatics the same type of coverage they did Trump. Biden is never going to make it to the starting gate.

I actually feel bad for Biden; but the fix is in- he wasn't wanted last go around, in favor of Hillary; when he could have defeated Trump.  He definitely isn't wanted this go around either.

 
 
 
Texan1211
2.6  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @2    2 months ago
Unless one or more of these women allege something along the line of Trumpish behavior (we know what that is), this should either come to a halt, or frankly, be ignored.

Sounds like mansplaining or simply not listening to the victims.

For better or worse Biden is 76 years old. If he was brought up to believe it is ok to place his hands on a womans shoulders as a (even momentary) show of affection , it is what it is. All things considered , it is not enough to disqualify him for the nomination, and certainly not for the presidency itself (given the current

As old as Biden is, using his upbringing as an excuse seems rather weird. Has he learned nothing over the last 30 years?

If that didnt bother the voters, Biden putting his hands on someones shoulders should be a non starter.

Nice of you to tell everyone else what they should feel. More mansplaining!

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
2.6.1  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Texan1211 @2.6    2 months ago
Sounds like mansplaining or simply not listening to the victims.

Strange how you call that mainsplaining for Biden, when you defended Cavanaugh. Frankly, I see it the same way. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
2.6.2  Texan1211  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @2.6.1    2 months ago
trange how you call that mainsplaining for Biden, when you defended Cavanaugh. Frankly, I see it the same way.

That probably puts you into a very small group of people thinking that way.

My point is that all who are explaining Biden away didn't do it for Kavanaugh, and vice-versa.

I say if someone has a problem with the way they are touched, the time to say something is when it happens.

Waiting decades seems rather pointless and counter-productive, no matter who is being accused.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
2.6.3  JohnRussell  replied to  Texan1211 @2.6.2    2 months ago
That probably puts you into a very small group of people thinking that way. My point is that all who are explaining Biden away didn't do it for Kavanaugh, and vice-versa.

The woman in the Kavanaugh case said he held her down and tried to take her clothes off. Get back to us when one of Biden's "accusers" says that. 

 
 
 
It Is ME
2.6.4  It Is ME  replied to  JohnRussell @2.6.3    2 months ago
The woman in the Kavanaugh case said he held her down and tried to take her clothes off. Get back to us when one of Biden's "accusers" says that. 

There are actual "NEWS" pictures of Biden ….. "Groping" (not allowed on this article though).

Did "Ford have pictures ?

 
 
 
Texan1211
2.6.5  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @2.6.3    2 months ago
The woman in the Kavanaugh case said he held her down and tried to take her clothes off. Get back to us when one of Biden's "accusers" says that.

Now you seem to want to argue degree rather than inappropriateness.

My point is that all who are explaining Biden away didn't do it for Kavanaugh, and vice-versa.
I say if someone has a problem with the way they are touched, the time to say something is when it happens.
Waiting decades seems rather pointless and counter-productive, no matter who is being accused.

 
 
 
Galen Marvin Ross
2.6.6  Galen Marvin Ross  replied to  Texan1211 @2.6.5    2 months ago
My point is that all who are explaining Biden away didn't do it for Kavanaugh, and vice-versa.I say if someone has a problem with the way they are touched, the time to say something is when it happens.Waiting decades seems rather pointless and counter-productive, no matter who is being accused.

There is a HUGE difference between touching a woman on the shoulders and, grabbing them by the P@@@y.

 
 
 
Texan1211
2.6.7  Texan1211  replied to  Galen Marvin Ross @2.6.6    2 months ago

Keep those deflector shields up and running!

Good job!

 
 
 
1stwarrior
2.6.8  1stwarrior  replied to  Galen Marvin Ross @2.6.6    2 months ago

Got any pictures of Trump grabbing????

Didn't think so.

Got any pictures of Biden touching???

Hmmmm - thought so.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
2.6.9  Greg Jones  replied to  JohnRussell @2.6.3    2 months ago
The woman in the Kavanaugh case said he held her down and tried to take her clothes off. Get back to us when one of Biden's "accusers" says that. 

That's not what she said. Go take a look again and get back at us with the correct version.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
2.6.10  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Texan1211 @2.6.2    2 months ago
Waiting decades seems rather pointless and counter-productive, no matter who is being accused.

Exactly.

 
 
 
Tessylo
2.6.11  Tessylo  replied to  Greg Jones @2.6.9    2 months ago
'That's not what she said. Go take a look again and get back at us with the correct version.'

That is what she said.  

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
2.6.12  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  It Is ME @2.6.4    2 months ago

Look up the word Groping. He was not groping. You implied it. 

Furthermore, if you had actually read the article ( from a small local Conn paper), the accuser is saying that Biden tried to rub noses with her. OMG... call the police! LOL. 

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
2.6.13  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  1stwarrior @2.6.8    2 months ago
Got any pictures of Trump grabbing????

No. Just him saying that he can grab any pussy he wants.

Got any pictures of Biden touching???

Yes. Touching. Not groping. Touching. Have you ever touched? I know I have. 

 
 
 
It Is ME
2.6.14  It Is ME  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @2.6.12    2 months ago
Look up the word Groping. He was not groping.

"Pictures' are worth a thousand words, but they aren't allowed here....so it seems !

Grope:

1. Someone who gropes someone else, touches that person’s body without permission.

It's not "Specific" on which part of the "Body" is touched !

 
 
 
squiggy
2.6.15  squiggy  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @2.6.13    2 months ago
Touching. Have you ever touched? I know I have.

Yea, but he inhaled too.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
2.6.16  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  It Is ME @2.6.14    2 months ago

Grope:

When used in a sexual context, groping or fondling is touching another person in an unwelcome sexual way. The term generally has a negative connotation in many societies, and the activity may be considered sexual assault. Wikipedia

 
 
 
It Is ME
2.6.17  It Is ME  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @2.6.16    2 months ago
groping or fondling is touching another person in an unwelcome sexual way.

Gawking is considered "Sexual" these days.

You'll have to be more specific !

"Touching" a Shoulder gently with a come-hither look ?

"Messaging" ones shoulders from "Behind" ?

Hands softly "around" someone's neck ?

Whispers in someone's ear from behind ?

"Kissing" someone with both hands on face ?

That "IS" Joe for ya though. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
2.6.18  Tessylo  replied to  Galen Marvin Ross @2.6.6    2 months ago
'There is a HUGE difference between touching a woman on the shoulders and, grabbing them by the P@@@y.'

'I don't ask, I just grab.'

 
 
 
KDMichigan
2.6.19  KDMichigan  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @2.6.13    2 months ago
Just him saying that he can grab any pussy he wants.

His actual words 

I just start kissing them. It's like a magnet. Just kiss. I don't even wait. And when you're a star they let you do it. You can do anything ... Grab them by the pussy. You can do anything."

I am so sick of the anti Trumpers making false statements. President Trump never said he grabbed anyone by the pussy, You have been misinformed.

 
 
 
bugsy
2.6.20  bugsy  replied to  Galen Marvin Ross @2.6.6    2 months ago
grabbing them by the P@@@y

Who actually did that?

 
 
 
Rmando
3  Rmando    2 months ago

Some big time Democrat donors must want Biden out of the way really bad. Where do they keep finding these women to come forward?

 
 
 
βΔĐ₣ƗŞĦ ĦΔŇĐ Ø₣ ĐØØΜ
3.1  seeder  βΔĐ₣ƗŞĦ ĦΔŇĐ Ø₣ ĐØØΜ  replied to  Rmando @3    2 months ago

The party has shifted, the media is right there with them and they want him out, completely out!

They've been running Biden hit pieces for a few weeks now. No one does it better!

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
3.1.1  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  βΔĐ₣ƗŞĦ ĦΔŇĐ Ø₣ ĐØØΜ @3.1    2 months ago

And running a hit piece isn't trying to help them?

 
 
 
Ronin2
3.1.2  Ronin2  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @3.1.1    2 months ago

All Badfish is doing is reporting the hit; he isn't the on conducting the assassination on Biden's character.

Besides, the left eating one of their own moderates is almost as fun (in a massive Nascar wreck kind way) as watching the right eat one of their own moderates.

 
 
 
βΔĐ₣ƗŞĦ ĦΔŇĐ Ø₣ ĐØØΜ
3.1.3  seeder  βΔĐ₣ƗŞĦ ĦΔŇĐ Ø₣ ĐØØΜ  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @3.1.1    2 months ago

What are you suggesting, a lopsided seed fest with one perspective? An echo chamber of one sided news seeds?

Like I said, I seed...you decide.

You wrote your cover piece yesterday, it did well. This is major news, it should be seeded.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
3.1.4  JohnRussell  replied to  βΔĐ₣ƗŞĦ ĦΔŇĐ Ø₣ ĐØØΜ @3.1.3    2 months ago

You are going to say how unfair it is that Biden is being singled out even as you post seed after seed about it. 

Everyone knows what you are up to. 

 
 
 
βΔĐ₣ƗŞĦ ĦΔŇĐ Ø₣ ĐØØΜ
3.1.5  seeder  βΔĐ₣ƗŞĦ ĦΔŇĐ Ø₣ ĐØØΜ  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.4    2 months ago

I'll let you know when you have your credibility back after two years of fake news. Epic failure.....

This would be seed numero uno.....

Don't blame me for the far left attacks being levied on America's favorite Uncle.

I thought you'd be offended by this....

 
 
 
JohnRussell
3.1.6  JohnRussell  replied to  βΔĐ₣ƗŞĦ ĦΔŇĐ Ø₣ ĐØØΜ @3.1.5    2 months ago
I'll let you know when you have your credibility back after two years of fake news. Epic failure.....

Your conspiracy laden seeds have never had any credibility. 

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
3.1.7  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  βΔĐ₣ƗŞĦ ĦΔŇĐ Ø₣ ĐØØΜ @3.1.3    2 months ago

You only seed from one side, so who are you to accuse me of being lopsided. My article was not about Biden, it was about ethics and political expediency. You could even say it was about the battle for the soul of the Democratic Party. But the problem is, that no one read it. They just went right to their talking points. And that is always the problem around here. People are not interested in advancing their thinking. They are interested in their agendas. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
3.1.8  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.6    2 months ago
Your conspiracy laden seeds have never had any credibility.

So you think this breaking story is a conspiracy.

LOL!

 
 
 
It Is ME
3.1.9  It Is ME  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @3.1.7    2 months ago
it was about ethics

So why was Comment 4 deleted ?

it "FIT" the "Real side" of the argument. and it was actually shown on the "News" too.

Did it "Burn" someone's childish eyes or something ?

 
 
 
βΔĐ₣ƗŞĦ ĦΔŇĐ Ø₣ ĐØØΜ
3.1.10  seeder  βΔĐ₣ƗŞĦ ĦΔŇĐ Ø₣ ĐØØΜ  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @3.1.7    2 months ago

We are vetting candidates, this happens to them all. 

I would suggest waiting for an actual platfort to be announced,  It's early be patient.

 
 
 
Texan1211
3.1.11  Texan1211  replied to  It Is ME @3.1.9    2 months ago

The truth hurts sometimes, and if it hurts too much or hurts the wrong people...………………..zap!

 
 
 
JohnRussell
3.1.12  JohnRussell  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @3.1.7    2 months ago

Perrie, you are the most scrupulously "middle of the road politically" person I have ever seen on a forum like this. As you know I disagree with middle of the road political stances, but that is yours and you never fail to observe it. It is silly for anyone to imply you are protecting Joe Biden. 

 
 
 
It Is ME
3.1.13  It Is ME  replied to  Texan1211 @3.1.11    2 months ago
zap!

EXACTLY !

Don't do as I do....do as I say !

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
3.1.14  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.12    2 months ago

I'm not sure how to take that, LOL. It feels like an insult but it is the truth.

I am not protecting Biden. What he has been doing, he has been doing for over 40 years and in public. 

If this is the new normal, I am stunned. Political expediency by character assassination.  

 
 
 
JohnRussell
3.1.15  JohnRussell  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @3.1.14    2 months ago
I'm not sure how to take that, LOL. It feels like an insult but it is the truth.

It was a compliment in this context. 

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
3.1.16  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  βΔĐ₣ƗŞĦ ĦΔŇĐ Ø₣ ĐØØΜ @3.1.5    2 months ago

LOL..

You are using a CNN video, while all you do is talk about what a hacky station CNN is. You don't think that was hacky?

I do.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
3.1.17  Greg Jones  replied to  βΔĐ₣ƗŞĦ ĦΔŇĐ Ø₣ ĐØØΜ @3.1.5    2 months ago

Ewwww! 

How could he stand her smell! jrSmiley_99_smiley_image.jpg

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
3.1.18  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  It Is ME @3.1.9    2 months ago
So why was Comment 4 deleted ?

Because it fell under the untrue part of our CoC. It was nothing more than innuendo. And I did watch the video. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
3.1.19  Texan1211  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @3.1.18    2 months ago
Because it fell under the untrue part of our CoC. It was nothing more than innuendo. And I did watch the video.

But stating that the President has been shtupping his daughter since she was 12 is the truth? And NOT innuendo?

LOL!

 
 
 
r.t..b...
3.1.20  r.t..b...  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @3.1.14    2 months ago
Political expediency by character assassination. 

Ratcheted up a degree when the character is viewed as a legitimate threat.

 
 
 
It Is ME
3.1.21  It Is ME  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @3.1.18    2 months ago

How do actual ACTIONS....caught in pictures and in Video.....become Innuendo ?

Did you watch that GIF of the "Little Girl" ?

Do you have daughters ?

Would you put up with what bothered that "Little Girl" ?

 
 
 
Raven Wing
3.1.22  Raven Wing  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @3.1.7    2 months ago
And that is always the problem around here. People are not interested in advancing their thinking. They are interested in their agendas. 

Totally agree! Attack or detract. That has become the norm with a large number of members on both sides.

It seems that debate/discussion takes too much thinking to bother with. And as you say, many of them never bother to read the articles, they just jump in and ultimately make total fools of themselves trying to make fools of others.

 
 
 
Snuffy
3.1.23  Snuffy  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @3.1.14    2 months ago
If this is the new normal, I am stunned. Political expediency by character assassination. 

No,  don't believe this is new normal but more of the 24x7 news cycle that brings everything out to a wide audience as well as the current party extremes launching against anything not in lockstep with themselves.  Political character assassination has been going on for almost as long as people have been around.

 
 
 
squiggy
3.2  squiggy  replied to  Rmando @3    2 months ago
Some big time Democrat donors must want Biden out of the way really bad.

Bloomberg is interested again. It would be fascinating if he bankrolled Biden's incineration to seize the moderate ground. Well MINO.

 
 
 
It Is ME
4  It Is ME    2 months ago

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It Is ME
4.1  It Is ME  replied to  It Is ME @4    2 months ago

Those were actual True News Footage and News photos.

What, that's not allowed EITHER ? jrSmiley_26_smiley_image.gif

Uber Nicey Nice Grandpa Joe "Can't be scrutinized ? jrSmiley_46_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Galen Marvin Ross
4.1.1  Galen Marvin Ross  replied to  It Is ME @4.1    2 months ago

They were photo's being used out of context, one of them was Biden consoling his grandson at his sons funeral. Most of the time anymore the Right makes me sick. Defend the degenerate Trump but, run everyone else through the mud.

 
 
 
It Is ME
4.1.2  It Is ME  replied to  Galen Marvin Ross @4.1.1    2 months ago
They were photo's being used out of context,

Just "One" of them ?

Any comment on the GIF I posted showing the "Little Girl" moving away from "Nice Joe" ?

 
 
 
Galen Marvin Ross
4.1.3  Galen Marvin Ross  replied to  It Is ME @4.1.2    2 months ago

Nice try, remember it was Trump who said he'd love to date his own daughter.....when she was sixteen.

 
 
 
It Is ME
4.1.4  It Is ME  replied to  Galen Marvin Ross @4.1.3    2 months ago
Nice try, remember it was Trump who said he'd love to date his own daughter.....when she was sixteen.

Off Topic !

I swear the "Topic" was Joe Biden ! jrSmiley_99_smiley_image.jpg

 
 
 
Texan1211
4.1.5  Texan1211  replied to  Galen Marvin Ross @4.1.3    2 months ago

Please provide a direct quote of Trump saying those words, as you claim.

 
 
 
Texan1211
4.1.6  Texan1211  replied to  It Is ME @4.1.4    2 months ago
Off Topic !
I swear the "Topic" was Joe Biden !

"Deflector shields employed, Captain!"

 
 
 
It Is ME
4.1.7  It Is ME  replied to  Texan1211 @4.1.5    2 months ago

To be honest....The cast of the"VIEW" loved "Trump", including good ol' "JOY" !!!!!!!

Even the "View" understood it was a Joke !

 
 
 
Tessylo
4.1.8  Tessylo  replied to  Galen Marvin Ross @4.1.3    2 months ago

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It Is ME
4.1.10  It Is ME  replied to  Texan1211 @4.1.6    2 months ago
"Deflector shields employed, Captain!"

No Kidding. jrSmiley_80_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
4.1.11  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  It Is ME @4.1.7    2 months ago

Do you have daughters?

I do. 2 of them.

My husband would never have said that. It's disgusting. Neither would my dad, who had 2 daughters. 

That isn't funny. That is sick.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
4.1.12  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Tessylo @4.1.8    2 months ago
He's been shtupping her since she was 12.  

Tessy,

No he hasn't. But he has been inappropriate in what he has said and his family photos. 

It is Me,

See that is being honest and nonpartisan. I call them as I see them. 

 
 
 
It Is ME
4.1.13  It Is ME  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @4.1.11    2 months ago
Do you have daughters?

Yep !

"That isn't funny."

The cast of "The View" thought it was. They're now "Main Stream"....so we're told !

Can I show news pictures of "Joe"  actually copping a feel from "Stranger children" now, since the Trump Vid wasn't deleted ?

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
4.1.14  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  It Is ME @4.1.13    2 months ago

They laughed it off out of discomfort. Who says that about their daughter. Do you?

 
 
 
1stwarrior
4.1.15  1stwarrior  replied to  Tessylo @4.1.8    2 months ago

Where do you come up with this crap??  Got any proof?  'Course not - as usual.

 
 
 
It Is ME
4.1.16  It Is ME  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @4.1.14    2 months ago
They laughed it off out of discomfort.

Did they say that ?

The "Left" does have this "Thing" for "Woody Allen" !

 
 
 
Tessylo
4.1.17  Tessylo  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @4.1.14    2 months ago
'They laughed it off out of discomfort. Who says that about their daughter. Do you?'

That's what I saw also, laughing it off out of discomfort.  

I'm sure they never heard that before.  

They were also laughing at the turd, he looks like he thinks they're laughing with him, they're not, they're laughing AT HIM!

 
 
 
Tessylo
4.1.18  Tessylo  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @4.1.12    2 months ago
'Tessy, No he hasn't.'

I believe that he has.  

 
 
 
Texan1211
4.1.19  Texan1211  replied to  1stwarrior @4.1.15    2 months ago
Got any proof? 'Course not - as usual.

Been posted many times with nary a stitch of proof. You are just wasting your time asking. We both know there is no proof!

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
4.1.20  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  It Is ME @4.1.16    2 months ago

Woody Allen is a disgusting pig. I have never seen a movie since he married his daughter.

 
 
 
squiggy
4.1.21  squiggy  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @4.1.11    2 months ago
He's been shtupping her since she was 12.  

Goes on here all day.

 
 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
4.1.23  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Texan1211 @4.1.5    2 months ago
Please provide a direct quote of Trump saying those words, as you claim.

"When Donald Trump was watching his 16-year-old daughter Ivanka host the 1997 Miss Teen USA pageant, he turned to the then-Miss Universe and asked:

“Don’t you think my daughter’s hot? She’s hot, right?”

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-elections/donald-trump-ivanka-trump-creepiest-most-unsettling-comments-a-roundup-a7353876.html

The link has the actual audio and the reaction from the show hosts which was universal disgust, one said he was sick and another said "What are you, Woody Allen?".

When asked what he and his daughter both consider their favorite things, Trump answered, “I was going to say sex".

“Ivanka posing for Playboy would be really disappointing… not really. But it would depend on what was inside the magazine…I don’t think Ivanka would [do a nude shoot] inside the magazine, Although she does have a very nice figure. I’ve said that if Ivanka weren’t my daughter, perhaps I’d be dating her.” - DJT

“You know who’s one of the great beauties of the world, according to everybody? And I helped create her. Ivanka. My daughter, Ivanka. She’s 6 feet tall, she’s got the best body.” DJT

“Yeah, she’s really something, and what a beauty, that one. If I weren’t happily married and, ya know, her father….” - DJT

“Is it wrong to be more sexually attracted to your own daughter than your wife?” - DJT

Yes Donald, it is, it really really is.

https://forward.com/schmooze/357185/7-creepy-things-donald-trump-has-said-about-ivanka/

I'd take a hair sniff and a kiss on the back of the head any day over Trumps barely hidden expressions of incestuous carnal desires.

 
 
 
Texan1211
4.1.24  Texan1211  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @4.1.23    2 months ago

See, the problem occurs when you jump in trying to answer for others, but not understanding the actual question.

Maybe you can go back, read my post, and answer appropriately.

 
 
 
r.t..b...
4.1.25  r.t..b...  replied to  It Is ME @4.1.22    2 months ago
No "Blood" between them.

Life imitating art...did you catch the premier of the final season of 'Veep' this weekend? A great commentary of how the deep the bar has been lowered in regard to accepting the behavior of our political figures. The more heinous the offense, the higher the poll numbers. More to come. 

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
4.1.26  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Texan1211 @4.1.24    2 months ago
Maybe you can go back, read my post, and answer appropriately.

Galen: Nice try, remember it was Trump who said he'd love to date his own daughter.....when she was sixteen. 4.1.3

You: Please provide a direct quote of Trump saying those words, as you claim. 4.1.5

Me: "I’ve said that if Ivanka weren’t my daughter, perhaps I’d be dating her.” DJT - 4.1.23

How exactly am I misconstruing what you asked for?

 
 
 
It Is ME
4.1.27  It Is ME  replied to  r.t..b... @4.1.25    2 months ago
The more heinous the offense, the higher the poll numbers. More to come. 

It's just wonderful. jrSmiley_98_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
4.1.28  Trout Giggles  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @4.1.23    2 months ago
“Is it wrong to be more sexually attracted to your own daughter than your wife?” - DJT

He actually said that????

what a sick fuck

 
 
 
Tessylo
4.1.29  Tessylo  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @4.1.23    2 months ago
“Is it wrong to be more sexually attracted to your own daughter than your wife?” - DJT

I forgot about this one.  

 
 
 
Texan1211
4.1.30  Texan1211  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @4.1.26    2 months ago
Galen: Nice try, remember it was Trump who said he'd love to date his own daughter.....when she was sixteen. 4.1.3
You: Please provide a direct quote of Trump saying those words, as you claim. 4.1.5
Me: "I’ve said that if Ivanka weren’t my daughter, perhaps I’d be dating her.” DJT - 4.1.23
How exactly am I misconstruing what you asked for?

You should get someone to explain to you what that sentence actually states  ": "I’ve said that if Ivanka weren’t my daughter, perhaps I’d be dating her.” DJT - 4.1.23
How exactly am I misconstruing what you asked for?

He said IF quite plainly and clearly. He also said PERHAPS.

Now, you go spin it all you want but that doesn't remotely answer the question I asked.

 
 
 
r.t..b...
4.1.31  r.t..b...  replied to  Texan1211 @4.1.30    2 months ago
He said IF quite plainly and clearly. He also said PERHAPS.

That is PERHAPS the flimsiest excuse ever, IF you actually believe it. I think not, but the contrarian in you is stronger than reason. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
4.1.32  Texan1211  replied to  r.t..b... @4.1.31    2 months ago
That is PERHAPS the flimsiest excuse ever, IF you actually believe it. I think not, but the contrarian in you is stronger than reason.

If you can answer the question I asked and the poster attempted to respond to, please, do so.

I will happily read any and all quotes from Trump stating he wants to date his daughter.

Barring that, meh to your post.

 
 
 
luther28
5  luther28    2 months ago

We are quickly heading to the simplest of solutions, there will be no further conversation or physical contact between boys and girls.

I myself am not a toucher by any stretch of the imagination, but if there are those willing to hang Biden out to dry over a trait that has been overt over the years (yes I know acceptance levels have changed) then we have certainly gone over the edge.

 
 
 
It Is ME
5.1  It Is ME  replied to  luther28 @5    2 months ago
has been overt

More "Covert" !

His "Touchy/Feely" always seems to happen at "Important" events, where he thinks no one is really paying attention. 

It's just "Grandpa" after all. jrSmiley_99_smiley_image.jpg

 
 
 
Tessylo
6  Tessylo    2 months ago

That makes no sense whatsoever.

 
 
 
Galen Marvin Ross
7  Galen Marvin Ross    2 months ago

Ya'all want to talk about Joe Biden touching someone, how about this,

I mean you guys really have an angel in Donald Trump.

 
 
 
Texan1211
7.1  Texan1211  replied to  Galen Marvin Ross @7    2 months ago
Ya'all want to talk about Joe Biden touching someone, how about this,

Donald Trump's Access Hollywood Tape UNCENSORED

I mean you guys really have an angel in Donald Trump.

And this is about Biden?  Are you sure? Because other than the opening statement, there is NOTHING about Biden IN your post.

But hey, NICE DEFLECTION!

That MUST mean that Biden never did anything wrong because, well, TRUMP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SMMFH

 
 
 
Galen Marvin Ross
7.1.1  Galen Marvin Ross  replied to  Texan1211 @7.1    2 months ago
And this is about Biden? Are you sure? Because other than the opening statement, there is NOTHING about Biden IN your post.
But hey, NICE DEFLECTION!
That MUST mean that Biden never did anything wrong because, well, TRUMP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No, what it shows is the hypocrisy on the right. You support Trump in spite of the Hollywood Access tape and, you want to make fun of Joe Biden for doing less and, doing it in public, funny how that seems to work for you guys.

 
 
 
Texan1211
7.1.2  Texan1211  replied to  Galen Marvin Ross @7.1.1    2 months ago
No, what it shows is the hypocrisy on the right. You support Trump in spite of the Hollywood Access tape and, you want to make fun of Joe Biden for doing less and, doing it in public, funny how that seems to work for you guys.

One of the Democrats running for President should employ you as a master deflector.

You've earned the title.

Kudos!

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
7.1.3  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Texan1211 @7.1.2    2 months ago

Why is he deflecting?

No one is saying that Biden isn't touchy-feely. He is. But the republicans want to make this into much more than it is. 

On the other hand, Trump claimed he could move on a married women and grab pussy and that is OK. 

There needs to be one standard. That is the discussion.

 
 
 
Texan1211
7.1.4  Texan1211  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @7.1.3    2 months ago
Why is he deflecting?

Not sure, but strongly suspect it is because something was seeded that was critical of a Democrat. But Trump isn't the topic, and you know it.

No one is saying that Biden isn't touchy-feely. He is. But the republicans want to make this into much more than it is.

That may well explain why Republicans are talking about it, but why would CNN, MSNBC, ABC, NBC, CBS, etc. be covering it then?

On the other hand, Trump claimed he could move on a married women and grab pussy and that is OK.

Don't recall anyone ever saying it was okay, but I would be happy to read any articles substantiating your claim.

There needs to be one standard. That is the discussion.

Well, I don't see anything in the article about that, but if that is what you want to talk about, seed an article about it and I'll gladly post on it.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
7.1.5  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Texan1211 @7.1.4    2 months ago

What I want to talk about is holding our public figures to the same standards. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
7.1.6  Texan1211  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @7.1.5    2 months ago
What I want to talk about is holding our public figures to the same standards.

Seed an article and we can talk about that.

That isn't what this article is about, though.

 
 
 
squiggy
7.1.7  squiggy  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @7.1.3    2 months ago

There needs to be one standard.

... and I don't see it varying much from the responsibility to not creating an apprehensive atmosphere. The quality of my act is in the recipient's perception.

 
 
 
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7.1.8  seeder  βΔĐ₣ƗŞĦ ĦΔŇĐ Ø₣ ĐØØΜ  replied to  Texan1211 @7.1.6    2 months ago

It turns out it was a good idea to seed this article. Comment volume lays that issue to rest. The site is run on advertising and successful seeds are the key.

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PS, any further disruptive meta will be removed per article 2 subsection B of the CoC
 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
7.1.9  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @7.1.5    2 months ago
What I want to talk about is holding our public figures to the same standards.

Anthony Weiner (D) sexting 15 year old his "Carlos Danger"- Outcome: resigned from congress, convicted and serving 21 month sentence.

Al Franken (D) kissed a groped a woman during a USO show - Outcome: resigns Senate seat and apologizes.

John Conyers (D) accused by former staffer of "unwanted sexual advances" including propositioning her for sex and asked her to touch his genitals - Outcome: resigned from congress

David Wu (D) accused of making unwanted sexual advances toward a fundraiser's daughter - Outcome: resigned from Congress

Eric Massa (D) accused of groping and tickling of multiple male staffers - Outcome: resigned from Congress

Roy Moore (R) accused by 9 women of sexual misconduct with them when they were in their teens - Outcome: goes on to be Republican nominee for the Alabama senate but narrowly loses.

Brett Kavanaugh (R) accused of sexual assault and misconduct by Christine Blasey Ford - Outcome: confirmed to Supreme Court.

Joe Barton (R) acknowledged he took and emailed nude photos of himself in 2015 taken from a video of himself masturbating that he had shared with women online along with messages with sexual overtones that he had sent a female constituent while he was married. Outcome: Stayed in office till he was beaten in the recent 2018 election and was replaced 1/3/2019.

Blake Farenthold (R) paid $84,000 of taxpayer money, via the House of Representatives Office of Compliance, to settle a sexual harassment complaint from a former staffer in 2015. Outcome: Stayed in office till April 2018.

Herman Cain (R) accused of sexual harassment by several women, Sharon Bialek, Karen Kraushaar, and having a 13-year affair with Ginger White and Donna Donella also reported possible inappropriate behavior - Outcome: suspended republican campaign for President.

Scott DesJarlais (R), admitted under oath to at least six affairs, including two affairs with his patients and staffers while he was a physician at Grandview Medical Center in Jasper, TN. Additionally, while running on a pro-life platform, DesJarlais made his ex-wife have two abortions, and tried to persuade a mistress who was his patient, into an abortion as well. Outcome: Currently serving as Republican congressman for Tennessee's 4th district.

Vance McAllister (R) married father of five, caught on surveillance camera deeply kissing a married staffer in 2014. Several prominent Republicans asked McAllister to resign. Outcome: In response, he stated he would not seek re-election in 2016 so he served another 2 years after the scandal.

Donald Trump (R) - accused of sexual assault by nearly two dozen women during the 2016 election and he denied the allegations. The allegations arose after The Washington Post released a 2005 video of Trump, recorded on a hot microphone by Access Hollywood, in which he bragged about sexually assaulting women. His accusers include: Jessica Leeds, Kristin Anderson, Jill Harth, Lisa Boyne, 5 Miss Teen USA contestants, Temple Taggart, Cathy Heller, Karena Virginia, Mindy McGillivray, Natasha Stoynoff, Jennifer Murphy, Juliet Huddy, Rachel Crooks, Samantha Holvey, Ninni Laaksonen, Jessica Drake, Summer Zervos, Cassandra Searles and Alva Johnson. That doesn't include his own ex-wife Ivana who, in her 1990 divorce deposition, accused Donald of raping her in a fit of rage.

Hollywood Access Tape of Donald Trump:

"You know, I’m automatically attracted to beautiful — I just start kissing them. It’s like a magnet. Just kiss. I don’t even wait. And when you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything." - Donald trump

"Whatever you want." - Billy Bush

"Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything." - Donald Trump

Other comments in past insinuating he'd like a sexual relationship with his daughter and/or recognizing her sexual appeal:

“Ivanka posing for Playboy would be really disappointing… not really. But it would depend on what was inside the magazine…I don’t think Ivanka would [do a nude shoot] inside the magazine, Although she does have a very nice figure. I’ve said that if Ivanka weren’t my daughter, perhaps I’d be dating her.” - Donald Trump

“You know who’s one of the great beauties of the world, according to everybody? And I helped create her. Ivanka. My daughter, Ivanka. She’s 6 feet tall, she’s got the best body.” Donald Trump

“Yeah, she’s really something, and what a beauty, that one. If I weren’t happily married and, ya know, her father….” - Donald trump

Outcome: Elected President and expects Republicans to elect him to a second term.

Is it just me or does there seem to be a bit of a double standard between the two political parties?

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
7.1.10  Sean Treacy  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @7.1.3    2 months ago

But the republicans want to make this into much more than it is. 

It's really not Republicans driving this. It's Democrats.  

It's just amusing watching Biden refuse to hold himself to the standards he holds Republicans. 

 
 
 
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7.1.11  seeder  βΔĐ₣ƗŞĦ ĦΔŇĐ Ø₣ ĐØØΜ  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @7.1.9    2 months ago

That is an incredibly short list to reach such a conclusion? I can think of dozens of examples left off the list. Should Anthony Weiner really be in that list? He is a convicted pedophile, whole different animal.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
7.1.12  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Sean Treacy @7.1.10    2 months ago
It's just amusing watching Biden refuse to hold himself to the standards he holds Republicans. 

Sean, what are you talking about? Did you not read Biden's response to all of this:

“In my many years on the campaign trail and in public life, I have offered countless handshakes, hugs, expressions of affection, support and comfort,” Biden said in a statement. “And not once – never – did I believe I acted inappropriately. If it is suggested I did so, I will listen respectfully. But it was never my intention.”

 
 
 
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7.1.13  seeder  βΔĐ₣ƗŞĦ ĦΔŇĐ Ø₣ ĐØØΜ  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @7.1.12    2 months ago

I can accept that for the hugs but the grabbing of shoulders and waists and sniffing the hair with the slow kiss is just a disturbing violation of one's personal space. I get the Creepy Heeby Jeebies thinking about it.

If someone did that to my wife, he'd need a dentist. That is not copacetic. Then again my wife has a solid jab, over hand right and a Olympic round house kick.

 
 
 
BeastOfTheEast
7.1.14  BeastOfTheEast  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @7.1.3    2 months ago
No one is saying that Biden isn't touchy-feely. He is. But the republicans want to make this into much more than it is. 

Its the Democratic presidential hopefuls that are dumping on Joe, why, because he's not as nutty as they are therefor they perceive him as a threat. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
7.1.15  Sean Treacy  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @7.1.12    2 months ago

Did you not read Biden's response to all of this:

Going back to Clarence Thomas, at least, Biden's always weaponized allegations against Republicans and said accusers should be believed.

Ironic his own side is using the same tactics against him. 

 
 
 
squiggy
7.1.16  squiggy  replied to  βΔĐ₣ƗŞĦ ĦΔŇĐ Ø₣ ĐØØΜ @7.1.13    2 months ago

Yea, they're brushing him off like the family dog.

 
 
 
squiggy
7.1.17  squiggy  replied to  BeastOfTheEast @7.1.14    2 months ago
 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
7.1.18  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  βΔĐ₣ƗŞĦ ĦΔŇĐ Ø₣ ĐØØΜ @7.1.11    2 months ago
Should Anthony Wiener really be in that list? He is a convicted pedophile, whole different animal.

My point was that most Democrats reserve judgement, but when a preponderance of evidence or a pattern appears based on the number of similar accusations against a specific party member, Democrats tend to take swift decisive action, metaphorically amputating the gangrenous member. Democrats quickly amputated the Wiener regardless of its sensitive nature, for lack of a better metaphor. Republicans, on the other hand, seem to jump to their candidates defense no matter what or how prolific the accusations are and, if over time definitive proof of their bad behavior is confirmed, they begrudgingly brush the member under the rug claiming they weren't a real Republican anyway. At worst they're just never talked about or recognized as a Republican anymore, like so much water under the bridge. That is, of course, unless they perform the trademarked Republican "Mea Culpa" where they claim they were weak, but have apologized and prayed to God for forgiveness and promise to never, ever, do anything like that again, then Republicans seem to welcome them back like the prodigal son.

 
 
 
BeastOfTheEast
7.1.19  BeastOfTheEast  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @7.1.9    2 months ago

A woman came forward with claims that she had been sexually assaulted by Lt. Gov. Justin E. Fairfax (D) of Virginia, intensifying the weeklong political crisis in the state and leading top fellow Democrats to call for Mr. Fairfax to resign.

The woman, Meredith Watson, accused Mr. Fairfax of raping her in 2000 while they were students at Duke University, saying in a statement that his actions were “premeditated and aggressive” and demanding that he step down immediately.

Ms. Watson spoke out two days after Vanessa C. Tyson, a political science professor from California, said she was assaulted by Mr. Fairfax during the 2004 Democratic National Convention in Boston.

RESULT: Democrats aren't saying anymore about it as Mr. Fairfax continues to stay in office.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
7.1.20  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  βΔĐ₣ƗŞĦ ĦΔŇĐ Ø₣ ĐØØΜ @7.1.13    2 months ago

You know what... that is left up to the individual. What he did is not rape..it's not even harassment. If a women or man doesn't want it then they can tell him so. I know I wouldn't have an issue doing that. 

I thought you were sick of victimhood. This is the ultimate in victimhood. 

 
 
 
KDMichigan
7.1.21  KDMichigan  replied to  βΔĐ₣ƗŞĦ ĦΔŇĐ Ø₣ ĐØØΜ @7.1.13    2 months ago
If someone did that to my wife, he'd need a dentist.

My wife thinks its creepy. She is a Democrat and the details of him walking up smelling her hair then kissing it got a big yuck out of her. 

Someone wrote that after her benefiting  from Creepy uncle Joe campaigning for her she had the audacity to complain now, I wonder if they feel the same way about old Harvey Weinstein. Didn't his victims benefit from putting out?

 
 
 
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7.1.22  seeder  βΔĐ₣ƗŞĦ ĦΔŇĐ Ø₣ ĐØØΜ  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @7.1.20    2 months ago

If some guy put his hands on you and slowly sniffed your hair i suspect your husband may feel like i do.

 
 
 
Split Personality
7.1.23  Split Personality  replied to  KDMichigan @7.1.21    2 months ago
Someone wrote that after her benefiting  from Creepy uncle Joe campaigning for her she had the audacity to complain now,

Well, she did lose in a landslide, 60% to 34%, so maybe she's just looking for a bit of payback...

 
 
 
BeastOfTheEast
8  BeastOfTheEast    2 months ago

Democratic presidential hopefuls, the MSM and left wing TV opinion shows are dumping on Joe. Yet somehow Joe and his campaign are blaming it on Republicans jrSmiley_78_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
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9  seeder  βΔĐ₣ƗŞĦ ĦΔŇĐ Ø₣ ĐØØΜ    2 months ago

There are rumblings of a third accuser. The fish is on the story and beginning the process of vetting sources.

I will report soon.

Remember, fish reports.....you decided election 2020.

 
 
 
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10  seeder  βΔĐ₣ƗŞĦ ĦΔŇĐ Ø₣ ĐØØΜ    2 months ago

Due to Breaking News and New allegations this article discussion is closed and continuing here:

https://thenewstalkers.com/community/discussion/45345/breaking-two-more-women-accuse-biden-of-inappropriate-touching

 
 
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