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Sen. Tom Cotton Demands IRS Investigation into SPLC's Tax-Exempt Status

  

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Sen. Tom Cotton Demands IRS Investigation into SPLC's Tax-Exempt Status
"Based on these reports, and in the interest of protecting taxpayer dollars from a racist and sexist slush fund devoted to defamation, I believe that the SPLC's conduct warrants a serious and thorough investigation," Cotton writes. "Engaging in systematic defamation is not a tax-exempt purpose," the senator declared. "While IRS guidance lists several examples of tax-exempt purposes, engaging in defamation as a business model is of course not one of them."

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On Tuesday, Sen. Tom Cotton (R-Ark.) sent a letter to the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) demanding an investigation into whether or not the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) should lose its tax-exempt status. His letter comes after weeks of turmoil with the SPLC struggling with scandals of alleged racism and sexism. The organization fired its co-founder , saw its president and other leaders resign, and lost a prominent member of its board .

"I am writing to urge you to investigate whether the Southern Poverty Law Center should retain its classification as a 501(c)(3) nonprofit organization," Cotton begins his letter. "Recent news reports have confirmed the long-established fact that the SPLC regularly engages in defamation of its political opponents. In fact, the SPLC's defining characteristic is to fundraise off of defamation."

Cotton notes that "the SPLC has accrued more than $500 million in assets. According to the group's most recent financial statement, it holds $121 million offshore in non-U.S. equity funds. The SPLC uses these assets to pay its executives lavish salaries far higher than the comparable household average."

The senator noted the racism scandal , which I discussed on  Tucker Carlson Tonight last month.

"Based on these reports, and in the interest of protecting taxpayer dollars from a racist and sexist slush fund devoted to defamation, I believe that the SPLC's conduct warrants a serious and thorough investigation," Cotton writes.

"Engaging in systematic defamation is not a tax-exempt purpose," the senator declared. "While IRS guidance lists several examples of tax-exempt purposes, engaging in defamation as a business model is of course not one of them."

Cotton alleged that the far-left smear factory engages in defamation through its "hate map," which "ostensibly identifies hate groups such as the Ku Klux Klan and the Nation of Islam. But under the guise of its 'hate map,' the SPLC also lists its mainstream political opponents and faith-based groups, including reputable organizations such as the Family Research Council, the Alliance Defending Freedom, and the Center for Immigration Studies."

Indeed, the hate map vastly overstates the number of "hate groups," both by smearing mainstream organizations like FRC, ADF, and CIS, and by counting every single chapter of an organization as a separate "hate group." A PJ Media analysis found that there are at most 335 true "hate groups," despite the SPLC's claim that there are 1,020.

Cotton's letter also rightly cites the case of Muslim reformer Maajid Nawaz, whom the SPLC labeled an "anti-Muslim extremist." Nawaz sued , and the smear factory apologized, paying his nonprofit Quilliam Foundation $3.375 million in a settlement . About 60 organizations started considering lawsuits of their own after this settlement.

Cotton's letter also rightly noted the 2012 terrorist attack inspired by the "hate map." In 2012, Floyd Lee Corkins II attempted to murder everyone at FRC, and he was only stopped by a brave security guard.

"Perhaps the SPLC was founded for noble purposes and decades ago performed some good work, but what is left of the SPLC is no longer operating in a manner consistent with IRS guidelines and applicable law," Cotton declares. "Based on this concerning information and the flood of recent reports, I encourage you to take immediate action."

Cotton's letter is not the first attack on the SPLC's tax-exempt status. Last December, Baltimore lawyer Glen Keith Allen filed a mammoth lawsuit against the far-left smear factory. Among other things, he alleged that the SPLC's penchant for attacking "far-right groups" and primarily Republicans constituted a violation of the rules for 501(c)(3) status. Tax-exempt groups under this status cannot engage in political campaigning.

"The SPLC’s 501c3 status  rests on its claim to be pursuing an educational mission, but for decades it has wandered far from that mission into highly partisan, hypocritical, and in some cases fraudulent activities," Allen told PJ Media on Tuesday. "Its exploitation of its 501c3 status brings discredit to the entire nonprofit sector. It is no more a 501c3 than is a supermarket tabloid."

"I also believe the IRS should investigate whether the SPLC has complied with rules of professional ethics, which it is required to do as a purported 501c3 public interest law firm," Allen added, noting another claim in his lawsuit, that the SPLC abetted theft in it attacks against him.

Last month, the SPLC hired a high-powered lawyer to defend itself from Allen's suit, suggesting it takes this attack very seriously. The smear group has filed a motion to dismiss, but Allen has filed motions against it.

The far-left smear group faces many other lawsuits as well.

In 2017, the charity navigation website GuideStar marked each organization on the SPLC list as a "hate group" on its website. Liberty Counsel filed a lawsuit. Shortly thereafter, the Christian nonprofit D. James Kennedy Ministries filed a lawsuit against Amazon and the SPLC, after realizing that it was excluded from Amazon Smile over the SPLC list.

CIS is suing for wire fraud under RICO . Proud Boys founder Gavin McInnes is also suing for defamation.


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XXJefferson51
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1  seeder  XXJefferson51    5 years ago

“"Based on these reports, and in the interest of protecting taxpayer dollars from a racist and sexist slush fund devoted to defamation, I believe that the SPLC's conduct warrants a serious and thorough investigation," Cotton writes.

"Engaging in systematic defamation is not a tax-exempt purpose," the senator declared. "While IRS guidance lists several examples of tax-exempt purposes, engaging in defamation as a business model is of course not one of them."

Cotton alleged that the far-left smear factory engages in defamation through its "hate map," which "ostensibly identifies hate groups such as the Ku Klux Klan and the Nation of Islam. But under the guise of its 'hate map,' the SPLC also lists its mainstream political opponents and faith-based groups, including reputable organizations such as the Family Research Council, the Alliance Defending Freedom, and the Center for Immigration Studies."

Indeed, the hate map vastly overstates the number of "hate groups," both by smearing mainstream organizations like FRC, ADF, and CIS, and by counting every single chapter of an organization as a separate "hate group." A PJ Media analysis found that there are at most 335 true "hate groups," despite the SPLC's claim that there are 1,020.

Cotton's letter also rightly cites the case of Muslim reformer Maajid Nawaz, whom the SPLC labeled an "anti-Muslim extremist." Nawaz sued, and the smear factory apologized, paying his nonprofit Quilliam Foundation $3.375 million in a settlement. About 60 organizationsstarted considering lawsuits of their own after this settlement.

Cotton's letter also rightly noted the 2012 terrorist attack inspired by the "hate map." In 2012, Floyd Lee Corkins II attempted to murder everyone at FRC, and he was only stopped by a brave security guard.

"Perhaps the SPLC was founded for noble purposes and decades ago performed some good work, but what is left of the SPLC is no longer operating in a manner consistent with IRS guidelines and applicable law," Cotton declares. "Based on this concerning information and the flood of recent reports, I encourage you to take immediate action."

Cotton's letter is not the first attack on the SPLC's tax-exempt status. Last December, Baltimore lawyer Glen Keith Allen filed a mammoth lawsuit against the far-left smear factory. Among other things, he alleged that the SPLC's penchant for attacking "far-right groups" and primarily Republicans constituted a violation of the rules for 501(c)(3) status. Tax-exempt groups under this status cannot engage in political campaigning.

"The SPLC’s 501c3 status  rests on its claim to be pursuing an educational mission, but for decades it has wandered far from that mission into highly partisan, hypocritical, and in some cases fraudulent activities," Allen told PJ Media on Tuesday. "Its exploitation of its 501c3 status brings discredit to the entire nonprofit sector. It is no more a 501c3 than is a supermarket tabloid."

"I also believe the IRS should investigate whether the SPLC has complied with rules of professional ethics, which it is required to do as a purported 501c3 public interest law firm," Allen added, noting another claim in his lawsuit, that the SPLC abetted theft in it attacks against him.

Last month, the SPLC hired a high-powered lawyer to defend itself from Allen's suit, suggesting it takes this attack very seriously. The smear group has filed a motion to dismiss, but Allen has filed motions against it.

The far-left smear group faces many other lawsuits as well.

In 2017, the charity navigation website GuideStar marked each organization on the SPLC list as a "hate group" on its website. Liberty Counsel filed a lawsuit.”

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
1.1  Texan1211  replied to  XXJefferson51 @1    5 years ago

The SPLC should disband.

What a waste!

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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1.1.1  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Texan1211 @1.1    5 years ago

I agree.  Their behavior should cost them their tax exempt status.  They defamed our religious and conservative  groups and now it’s time we literally destroy them as an organization. Their own racist, sexist, and defaming labeling of their opposition shows them for the terrorist inspiring hate group that they are and removing their non profit tax exempt status is a good first step. 

 
 
 
Don Overton
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1.1.2  Don Overton  replied to  Texan1211 @1.1    5 years ago

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Texan1211
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1.1.3  Texan1211  replied to  Don Overton @1.1.2    5 years ago
Naw, the republican party should all go to jail

Well, just you get to stepping and start filing all those charges!

What's the hold-up?

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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1.1.4  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Don Overton @1.1.2    5 years ago

Many SJW’s wish they could do that to us.  It’s not going to happen.  

 
 
 
Split Personality
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1.2  Split Personality  replied to  XXJefferson51 @1    5 years ago
In 2017, the charity navigation website GuideStar marked each organization on the SPLC list as a "hate group" on its website. Liberty Counsel filed a lawsuit.”

The author of the seed, remarkably, doesn't mention that the 2017 lawsuit was dismissed in January of 2018....

I have been unable to find anything on Staver's promise to appeal to a higher court or refile in Virginia but I will keep looking.

Judge Tosses Hate Group Label Case Against GuideStar

January 29, 2018       Andy Segedin      
A federal judge has tossed lawsuit filed against nonprofit database GuideStar for flagging 46 organizations as hate groups as defined by the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC), including Liberty Counsel , the plaintiff in the suit. The Orlando, Fla.-based organization describes itself as a “ litigation, education, and policy ministry” on its website.

The decision will be appealed, according to Mat Staver, founder and chairman of Liberty Counsel.

Liberty Counsel filed suit in U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Virginia that the designations, which were eventually taken down, violated the Lanham Act — which prohibits false or misleading descriptions of fact or representations of fact in a commercial or advertising promotion or misrepresents the nature of one’s goods, services, or commercial activities. Liberty Counsel was arguing that that the hate-group designation were made in reference to the organization’s services and misrepresented the organization in an effort to influence donors’ decisions.

In granting GuideStar’s motion to dismiss, Judge Raymond A. Jackson ruled that “The Court finds that Plaintiff has not sufficiently pled a claim for a violation of the Lanham Act. Plaintiff did not sufficiently plead facts to satisfy the first element of a Lanham Act violation because the Court determines that Defendant’s statement is not commercial speech . . . The Court finds that Defendant’s use of SPLC’s notation is not commercial speech because the notation does not fall under the type of speech that violates the Lanham Act. Defendant’s review of Plaintiffs organization would fall under the laws of the First Amendment, not that of the Lanham Act.”

Reached for comment, a GuideStar spokesperson said ”We think the judge ruled correctly in this case.”

Staver told The NonProfit Times that the organization plans to appeal the case to the United States Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit. Staver opined that the opinion lacked thorough analysis regarding the the Lanham Act and that GuideStar’s flaggings were intended to harm Liberty Counsel. Liberty Counsel has lost potential donations as a result of the designation, Staver said, offering the example that Prudential Insurance no longer offers employees matching donations made to Liberty Counsel.

“GuideStar’s republication [of SPLC’s hate groups] intended to have a commercial impact on Liberty Counsel,” Staver said. “They had a commercial motivation to inflict a commercial harm by reducing the amount of donation and [harming the] reputation of Liberty Counsel.”

Staver said that underlying defamation claims were not considered by the federal court because, without a claim under the Lanham Act, the federal court did not have jurisdiction over the tortious claims. In addition to seeking an appeal in federal court, Staver said that Liberty Counsel might pursue the defamation claims in state court in Virginia.

SPLC was not named in the federal suit and there is no imminent litigation involving it. Liberty Counsel continues to consider suing SPLC over the hate-group designation either as an individual party or on behalf of itself and others, according to Staver. Liberty Counsel is currently working with representatives of between 45 and 60 organizations that were also designated as hate groups.

Liberty Counsel’s Attempt To Squelch Free Speech Is Squashed

Federal Court Says GuideStar Was Within Legal Bounds to Add ‘Hate Group’ Labels

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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1.2.1  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Split Personality @1.2    5 years ago

...Guidestar, the nonprofit whose website provides a massive database of information on other nonprofits, has backed down and announced it will no longer flag nonprofits on its site that the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) claims are “hate groups.” (Although as of this morning, the flags are still on Guidestar.org entries.)

The SPLC is a radical group that uses its infamous “hate groups” list to lump together genuine racists like the KKK with mainstream conservative groups. Many ordinary Americans consult the Guidestar site before giving donations, so when it recently began plastering “Hate Group” at the top of charities’ entries, it strongly reinforced SPLC’s smear campaign and potentially endangered the revenues of groups SPLC has attacked.

CRC and many other groups criticizedGuidestar for its decision to broadcast SPLC’s smears. At first, Guidestar dug in its heels with statements like this gassy claim that “Our task is to take this diversity of sources to offer a multi-dimensional view of nonprofits.”

But soon the uproar over Guidestar’s decision became quite loud. In addition to our critique, Guidestar faced an excellent Wall Street Journal article, a Philanthropy Roundtable exposé, news articles by Breitbart and the Daily Signal, threats of lawsuits, complaints by targeted charities, and more.

In one of the more amazing twists, a Muslim who fights Muslim extremism is now suing SPLC for labeling him a hater, as he explains in this clip on the Bill Maher TV show.

So finally at the end of last week, Guidestar backed down, announcing it would cease using the dishonest SPLC labels....https://capitalresearch.org/article/guidestar-drops-splcs-fake-hate-group-label/

 
 
 
Jasper2529
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1.2.2  Jasper2529  replied to  XXJefferson51 @1.2.1    5 years ago
In one of the more amazing twists, a Muslim who fights Muslim extremism is now suing SPLC for labeling him a hater, as he explains in this clip on the Bill Maher TV show.

Maajid Nawaz won his case against the hate-mongering SPLC to the tune of $3.375 million.

The Southern Poverty Law Center took a devastating hit to its credibility and reinforced its reputation for unfairly wielding the “hate” label Monday by agreeing to pay millions of dollars to an organization previously included on a list of “extremists.”

In a stunning settlement,   SPLC   President Richard Cohen issued an apology and agreed to pay $3.375 million to the British-based   Quilliam Foundation   and founder   Maajid Nawaz   after they appeared in a since-deleted 2016 journalists’ guide to “anti-Muslim extremists.”

The agreement, reached after   Mr. Nawaz   threatened to sue, prompted the center’s many critics on the right to reissue calls for media outlets and companies, which include Google and   Amazon , to stop relying on the center for neutral “hate group” assessments.

 
 
 
Don Overton
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1.2.3  Don Overton  replied to  XXJefferson51 @1.2.1    5 years ago

Your article has been busted and the final sentence of your comment a total comedy

 
 
 
Split Personality
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1.2.4  Split Personality  replied to  XXJefferson51 @1.2.1    5 years ago

Ironically, Guidestar still rates SPLC as a 'Premium" charity on their website.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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1.2.5  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Split Personality @1.2.4    5 years ago

They are sure misguided and subjectively biased to give those clowns that rating. I think it’s great that the more the lie life scum that are the people of the SPLC says bad about the Christians and conservatives they defame and libel the more powerful they become and the more prominent in our government their leaders and members are. They are almost constantly in the news due to their court actions and their involvement in the President’s administration and their testimony before congressional committees.  Real hate groups couldn’t do that.  We openly mock the SPLC and all who use their corrupt and bigoted rating system and celebrate our being able to be in their faces in court and in the media.  Since the Trump administration all the conservative and religious groups the SPLC 🎯 targeted for extinction have been openly given publicity and power in the government to the extent that often their statements and that of government are one and the same.  We will not be silenced by the bigots who label us.  

 
 
 
JBB
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1.2.6  JBB  replied to  Split Personality @1.2.4    5 years ago

There is an international cabal of far rightwing forces engaged in a coordinated mass effort to delegitimize and demonize the established American public institutions dedicated to individual freedom like the NAACP, ACLU, ADF, HRC AND the SPLC. Before long they will be gunning for the AARP and the Humane Society. No /S. When there are no more respected institutions left to defend our individual freedoms and identify and fight against organized hate then tyrany, fear and intolerance will finally be allowed reign triumphant over all of us, again...

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
1.2.7  Split Personality  replied to  XXJefferson51 @1.2.5    5 years ago

Please do not use "we" when expressing your own opinions.

You speak for no one here but yourself.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
1.2.8  Sean Treacy  replied to  JBB @1.2.6    5 years ago
an international cabal of far rightwing forces engaged in a coordinated m

A vast right conspiracy under every pillow!

Scare those ignorant masses! 

You certainly can't win with facts.

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
1.2.9  Split Personality  replied to  JBB @1.2.6    5 years ago

jrSmiley_89_smiley_image.gif I know that there's a good psych label for that behavior but I'm too busy

to waste time looking for it...

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.2.10  Vic Eldred  replied to  Split Personality @1.2    5 years ago
The author of the seed, remarkably, doesn't mention that the 2017 lawsuit was dismissed in January of 2018....

Haven't other suits been won against the RACIST SPLC?

A federal judge has tossed lawsuit filed against nonprofit database  GuideStar

Isn't this the same Federal Judge known to toss out lots of things, such as the life sentences given to Lee Boyd Malvo, who as a teenager took part in one of the most terrifying serial sniper murder cases in U.S. history? Isn't he the activist Judge who has been advocating for reforms of the "The Comprehensive Crime Control Act of 1984" ?

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Judge Raymond Jackson

Getting decisions from activist judges which protect a RACIST organization like SPLC are a travesty of justice.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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1.2.11  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.2.10    5 years ago

Indeed.  You are correct.  

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
1.2.12  Split Personality  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.2.10    5 years ago
Haven't other suits been won against the RACIST SPLC?

The SPLC is not racist, in spite of your opinion.

Isn't this the same Federal Judge known to toss out lots of things,

Hearsay and opinion...

Isn't he the activist Judge who has been advocating for reforms of the "The Comprehensive Crime Control Act of 1984" ?

As the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Virginia since 1993, Jackson has chafed at the lack of flexibility allowed judges by the Act of 1984.

As the result of the efforts by Jackson and other Federal Judges, Congressmen and Senators over the last 2 decades, a bipartisan Congress passed comprehensive

prison sentencing reform, known as First Step, on December 21, 2018 which was signed into law by President Trump.

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One would think that you should be thanking Judge Jackson for his tireless work which resulted in a signature piece of legislation for President Trump..

A rare bipartisan victory.

Getting decisions from activist judges which protect a RACIST organization like SPLC are a travesty of justice.

Again, that's just three of your many opinions combined into another conspiracy word salad.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
1.2.13  Sean Treacy  replied to  Split Personality @1.2.12    5 years ago

The SPLC is not racist, in spite of your opinion

It's the opinion of the minorities who work there. 

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
1.2.14  Split Personality  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.2.13    5 years ago

Ahhh, the firing of Morris Dees, I appreciate the help deciphering the message.

So the SPLC which as an org fights racism, suffered racism within the org itself,  got it.

 
 
 
tomwcraig
Junior Silent
1.2.15  tomwcraig  replied to  Split Personality @1.2.14    5 years ago

So, when an organization is defaming people, it is not practicing hate?  Isn't defamation hate-based when it comes down to it?  So, the SPLC which claims to fight hate is allowed to be that which it claims to be against?

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
1.2.16  Split Personality  replied to  Split Personality @1.2.14    5 years ago

By that logic, no Americans should be buying Korean built autos, they despise us even more than the Japanese auto executives do.

And Ford is RACIST because Henry Ford was RACIST as were many of the Ford family members...

Rumor has it that Chrysler bought out the Dodge Brothers simply to eliminate the Dodge corporate symbol, so that makes Chrysler Fiat RACIST too.

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Split Personality
Professor Guide
1.2.17  Split Personality  replied to  tomwcraig @1.2.15    5 years ago

Defamation is in the eye of the beholder, is it not, Tom?

I have witnessed discrimination of every kind, in every level, in every government position or company I have ever worked for,

does that make the US Government and the military and IRS and DHS,  RACIST?

So by that yardstick, yes, I am sure that SPLC, like just about every other institution,

suffer from some sort of internal discriminatory policies that always need to be worked on improving.

Thank goodness I am am beyond that now. I work when I want for whom I want to.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
1.2.18  Sean Treacy  replied to  Split Personality @1.2.14    5 years ago

So the SPLC which as an org fights racism, suffered racism within the org itself,  got it.

No, the SPLC is an org designed to generate money for it's founder, who performed legal work for the KKK before he realized what a profit center ignorant liberals are. It didn't "suffer" racism. It's a racist institution.  There's nothing passive about it's racism. 

It's been documented for decades. Sad you and other liberals fell for the  "hate group" scam and didn't pay attention.  

 

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
1.2.19  Split Personality  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.2.18    5 years ago
No, the SPLC is an org designed to generate money for it's founder

Aren't they all?

Sad you and other liberals fell for the  "hate group" scam and didn't pay attention.  

Really Sean? Do you think you know me?  Well that's as laughable as some of your other comments.

Have a great afternoon.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
1.2.20  Sean Treacy  replied to  Split Personality @1.2.19    5 years ago
Aren't they all?

No. 

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
1.2.21  Split Personality  replied to  Split Personality @1.2.16    5 years ago

In fact, the Dodge Brothers could not get financing from the typical lenders because of pressure from the big three

so they somehow ended up being finance by a group of Jewish bankers, and in order to honor their commitments to Dodge, the brothers incorporated

the Star of David ( not too subtly ) by using the interlocked white and black triangles on their marks,

but less subtly on their radiator caps

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Split Personality
Professor Guide
1.2.22  Split Personality  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.2.20    5 years ago

You mean there are corporations and organizations designed to lose money for the owner/founder?

Interesting.

Again, ciao.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
1.2.23  Sean Treacy  replied to  Split Personality @1.2.22    5 years ago

You think all non profits are money making scams for their founder?

Wow. 

 
 
 
Old Hermit
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1.2.24  Old Hermit  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.2.23    5 years ago
You think all non profits are money making scams for their founder ?

Well Pres. Trump sure thought his was.

The Donald J. Trump Foundation, Explained

The New York Times

What is the Trump Foundation?

Mr. Trump established the Donald J. Trump Foundation in 1987, when he was a New York City real estate mogul, with the stated mission of collecting and maintaining money “exclusively for charitable, religious, scientific, literary or educational purposes,” either directly or by donating to other organizations. It is a private, nonprofit corporation.

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Mr. Trump admitted to using the foundation’s money to contribute to political causes. He was also accused of diverting funds to settle disputes involving his businesses, failing to disburse funds to charities to which he said he had given large amounts of money, and publicly claiming credit for donating funds that had actually come from other groups.
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“Our petition detailed a shocking pattern of illegality involving the Trump Foundation – including unlawful coordination with the Trump presidential campaign, repeated and willful self-dealing, and much more,” Underwood said. “This amounted to the Trump Foundation functioning as little more than a checkbook to serve Mr. Trump’s business and political interests.”
 
 
 
tomwcraig
Junior Silent
1.2.25  tomwcraig  replied to  Split Personality @1.2.17    5 years ago

From the seeded article:

Cotton's letter also rightly cites the case of Muslim reformer Maajid Nawaz, whom the SPLC labeled an "anti-Muslim extremist." Nawaz sued , and the smear factory apologized, paying his nonprofit Quilliam Foundation $3.375 million in a settlement . About 60 organizations started considering lawsuits of their own after this settlement.

They defamed him then settled with him and apologized for defaming him after he sued them.  Yet, they are not guilty of defaming anyone in your mind, despite their admission, apology, and monetary settlement for doing exactly that.  

Where did I say anything about racism, I said defamation and defamation requires hate to conduct.  Defamation is making up lies about someone and ruining their reputation using those lies.  And, defamation does not require race to occur.  Just look at Nicholas Sandmann, he was defamed by the Mainstream Media and the left many of whom have yet to retract or apologize for doing so.  And, that was all because his nervous smile due to having no way to retreat was taken as a "smirk".

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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1.2.26  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  JBB @1.2.6    5 years ago

We already have been gunning for the AARP ever since they backed Obamacare to prop up their medicare secondary insurance business. I and millions of others have joined AMAC, the Association of Mature American Citizens the conservative alternative to the AARP.  They did a great job making Medicare Advantage to big and powerful for Obama to kill off as he intended between the 2008 election and the passage of Obamacare into law.  

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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1.2.27  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Split Personality @1.2.7    5 years ago

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XXJefferson51
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1.2.28  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.2.8    5 years ago

They’d have to actually have facts in order to win with them.  

 
 
 
Raven Wing
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1.2.29  Raven Wing  replied to  XXJefferson51 @1.2.27    5 years ago
We, we, we, we, we, we, We, we, we, we, we, we, We, we, we, we, we, we, We, we, we, we, we, we, We, we, we, we, we, we!

That's what they make adult Diapers for.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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1.2.30  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.2.18    5 years ago

They’d rather use it’s so called hate labels to shut the likes of us up.  

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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1.2.31  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Raven Wing @1.2.29    5 years ago

I wouldn’t have any experience with that,        deleted

 
 
 
JBB
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1.2.32  JBB  replied to  Raven Wing @1.2.29    5 years ago

What does Bat Man do in the Bat Room?

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Sorry! 82 Year Olde Morris Dees has been forced out by the board of the SPLC. The details seem pretty mundane and include an unwelcome public hug and an offhand remark about black teenagers running red lights. It is just a normal generational thing made inevitable by The SPLC's financial success. The SPLC will survive and will continue to identify and to certify the very real hate groups out there and so the haters will continue to try to falsely denigrate the SPLC's important work and ongoing contributions. Trumpism makes what the SPLC does even more important than ever which explaining the huge increase in fund raising the SPLC is currently enjoying.

Every time The SPLC is attacked by haters The SPLC raises more money.

I think the SPLC should actually add memorial bricks to The Wall of Tolerance at SPLC HQ in Montgomery Alabama in appreciation of KAG's and Buzz's contributions to their successful fundraising efforts... 

 
 
 
Raven Wing
Professor Guide
1.2.33  Raven Wing  replied to  XXJefferson51 @1.2.31    5 years ago
I wouldn’t have any experience with that,        delete

Sorry it went over your head    .deleted  by Charger 383, no ticket

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
1.2.34  Split Personality  replied to  XXJefferson51 @1.2.26    5 years ago

Hmmmm...

AARP, 38 million members, leans liberal on some issues.

TSC, 4 million members, conservative.

AMAC, 1 million members, conservative.

60 plus, won't say, claims to be non partisan.

ASA, won't say, conservative.

CAP. won't say. conservative Christians.

NOACS, won't say, conservative Christians.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
1.2.35  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Split Personality @1.2.34    5 years ago

I wouldn’t join AARP if they were the only senior outfit out there.  

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
1.2.36  Kavika   replied to  XXJefferson51 @1.2.35    5 years ago
I wouldn’t join AARP if they were the only senior outfit out there.  

They don't offer memberships to people that live in the mythical kingdom of Jeffersonia....All 50 of them....

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
Professor Quiet
1.2.37  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  XXJefferson51 @1.2.35    5 years ago

I gave up on AARP when they exclusively backed and promoted Obamacare above any other. 

 
 
 
lib50
Professor Silent
1.2.38  lib50  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @1.2.37    5 years ago

Obamacare is the only thing there was, republicans STILL don't have a different plan (because the ACA was pretty much their plan).  The AARP is advocating for seniors who use healthcare and they know.   This is one area ideology should not overshadow the truth.  But republicans have been lying about this since the beginning. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
1.2.39  Texan1211  replied to  lib50 @1.2.38    5 years ago
Obamacare is the only thing there was, republicans STILL don't have a different plan (because the ACA was pretty much their plan). The AARP is advocating for seniors who use healthcare and they know. This is one area ideology should not overshadow the truth. But republicans have been lying about this since the beginning.

Let's get real.

The ACA was NOT a Republican plan.

Unless you are referring to a plan circulated by the Heritage Foundation that was SOUNDLY rejected by BOTH Republicans AND Democrats.

Sorry, but Democrats OWN the farce that the PPACA was and is. Democrats pased it ALL BY THEMSELVES.

 
 
 
charger 383
Professor Silent
1.2.40  charger 383  replied to  Split Personality @1.2.21    5 years ago
"the Star of David ( not too subtly ) by using the interlocked white and black triangles on their marks"

as a Dodge enthusiast,  I had wondered about that logo

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
1.2.41  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Kavika @1.2.36    5 years ago

Then why do their offers constantly show up in my mail box?  

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
1.2.42  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @1.2.37    5 years ago

They were hoping that Obamacare was going to eliminate Medicare Advantage as Obama stated in the 2008 campaign which didn’t need the medigap insurance to cover Medicare’s other 20% for hospital costs and the like.  Medicare Advantage and Health Savings Accounts for high deductible regular health insurance were part of the private health insurance Medicare part D Rx coverage the GOP and Bush passed.  My senior group, AMAC along with the Tea Party promoted and sold enough Medicare Advantage plans and HSA’s for catastrophic plans from its founding a bit over 10 years ago until Obamacare became law to enough seniors to make them too big and politically impossible to kill off and then the GOP took over the House. AMAC may not be as big as AARP but it did save HSA’s and Medicare Advantage and it offers its members every bit as many benefits.  

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
1.2.43  Kavika   replied to  XXJefferson51 @1.2.41    5 years ago
Then why do their offers constantly show up in my mail box?  

So you say. Probably much like the mythical kingdom of Jeffersonia. A figment of your imagination.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
1.2.44  Texan1211  replied to  Kavika @1.2.43    5 years ago

Gee, if you are going to call someone a liar, why not just come out and say it instead of tapdancing around it?

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Expert
1.2.45  Dulay  replied to  Texan1211 @1.2.39    5 years ago
Let's get real.

Let's. 

The ACA was NOT a Republican plan.

Actually, the majority of it is. 

Unless you are referring to a plan circulated by the Heritage Foundation that was SOUNDLY rejected by BOTH Republicans AND Democrats.

Nope. Both Romneycare and Obamacare used the HF proposal as a framework. 

Sorry, but Democrats OWN the farce that the PPACA was and is.

You mean other than the months of negotiations and the 180+ GOP Amendments right? 

Democrats pased it ALL BY THEMSELVES.

Yes, the GOP reneged on their promised support. In short, they lied. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
1.2.46  Texan1211  replied to  Dulay @1.2.45    5 years ago

it is simply undeniable by anyone even remotely familiar with the PPACA that it was passed solely by Democrats.

Isn't it rather sad that the best the Democrats could come up with was a plan 15-20 years old that was soundly rejected by both sides? 

Now it is your turn to tell me how the Democrats had some sort of epiphany and "evolved" on the issue.

LOL.

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
1.2.47  Kavika   replied to  Texan1211 @1.2.44    5 years ago
Gee, if you are going to call someone a liar, why not just come out and say it instead of tapdancing around it?

No tap dancing, it's in reference to his belief that Jeffersonia is a state. It isn't so the same affliction could be affecting his remembrance of receiving mailers from AARP. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
1.2.48  Texan1211  replied to  Kavika @1.2.47    5 years ago

All I have seen from him is that he hopes and works towards a state of Jefferson-not that he believes it actually already exists.

Sometimes you have to read whole posts.

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
1.2.49  Kavika   replied to  Texan1211 @1.2.48    5 years ago

LOL, well then you haven't been reading them as long as I have...He believes that there is a state of Jeffersonia...

Sometimes you have to read whole posts.

Or read all of his posts on Jeffersonia...LOLOLOL

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
1.2.50  Texan1211  replied to  Kavika @1.2.49    5 years ago

I have read many of them. I don't think he believes that the state of Jefferson is actually in existence. What does that really have to do with what you posted?

Like I stated earlier--why pussyfoot around it?

Either come straight out and call him a liar---something you skirted around--or why post it?

Is that some cute way to skirt the C of C?

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Expert
1.2.51  Dulay  replied to  Texan1211 @1.2.46    5 years ago
it is simply undeniable by anyone even remotely familiar with the PPACA that it was passed solely by Democrats.

Yes, I realize that y'all desperately need to limit the conversation to the vote so you can attempt to  deny that the GOP had anything to do with the ACA. 

Isn't it rather sad that the best the Democrats could come up with was a plan 15-20 years old that was soundly rejected by both sides?

Is it you posit that as an idea ages it looses validity? 

As for your constant claim that the HF proposal was 'soundly rejected', it's utterly unfounded. Some of the lead GOP Senators at the time supported the bill, including Grassley,  Yet since it was seen as a 'compromise' the hardline GOP tanked it. BTFW, there were Dem co-sponsors too. 

I realize that historical FACTS put a dent in your agenda but I prefer them. 

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Expert
1.2.52  Dulay  replied to  Texan1211 @1.2.50    5 years ago
I don't think he believes that the state of Jefferson is actually in existence.

All you need do is read his reply to Kavika in this thread. 

Kavika:

They don't offer memberships to people that live in the mythical kingdom of Jeffersonia....All 50 of them....

Xx:

Then why do their offers constantly show up in my mail box?

Any thinking person would realize that he insists that his mailbox is in the 'mythical kingdom of Jeffersonia'. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
1.2.53  Texan1211  replied to  Dulay @1.2.51    5 years ago
Yes, I realize that y'all desperately need to limit the conversation to the vote so you can attempt to deny that the GOP had anything to do with the ACA.

Nobody is doing that. No need to make shit up. I stated quite clearly that Democrats alone passed the bill. That is just a pesky fact you wish to overlook.

Is it you posit that as an idea ages it looses validity?

Not what I stated. Read more carefully. I stated that the idea was soundly rejected by both Democrats and Republicans. read it again so you can see it for yourself, as you must have missed it the first time.

As for your constant claim that the HF proposal was 'soundly rejected', it's utterly unfounded. Some of the lead GOP Senators at the time supported the bill, including Grassley, Yet since it was seen as a 'compromise' the hardline GOP tanked it. BTFW, there were Dem co-sponsors too.

I realize that historical FACTS put a dent in your agenda but I prefer them.

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XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
1.2.54  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Texan1211 @1.2.46    5 years ago

Lol! Indeed!  

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
1.2.55  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Dulay @1.2.52    5 years ago

Actually, a thinking person would realize that one would not advocate for the creation of a new 51st state of the union and promote its creation if it he thought it actually already exists.  

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
1.2.56  Kavika   replied to  Texan1211 @1.2.50    5 years ago
Either come straight out and call him a liar---something you skirted around--or why post it? Is that some cute way to skirt the C of C?

Seems that you haven't read them or perhaps you don't understand KAG's comments...

Why would I call him a liar when I don't believe that he is. I explained that before. But it seems to be your conclusion, but you certainly have every right to be wrong in your assumption. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
1.2.57  Texan1211  replied to  XXJefferson51 @1.2.55    5 years ago

Your logic will be completely lost on some of these folks.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
1.2.58  Texan1211  replied to  Dulay @1.2.52    5 years ago
Any thinking person would realize that he insists that his mailbox is in the 'mythical kingdom of Jeffersonia'.

No rational-thinking person would ever believe that bit of tripe.

Why would he advocate for something you claim he thinks already exists? That would be monumentally STUPID.

I will leave you to your circle jerk.

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Expert
1.2.59  Dulay  replied to  Texan1211 @1.2.53    5 years ago
Nobody is doing that.

Only you. 

No need to make shit up.

I'm not. 

I stated quite clearly that Democrats alone passed the bill.

While desperately trying to ignore the FACT that it WAS an HF framework and that the GOP negotiated for months behind closed doors and proposed hundreds of Amendments, MANY of which were adopted. 

That is just a pesky fact you wish to overlook.

I didn't overlook that, I already stated that the GOP reneged on their promise to vote for the bill. I've read your admonitions to other members about reading entire comments. Perhaps you should follow your own advice. 

Not what I stated. Read more carefully. I stated that the idea was soundly rejected by both Democrats and Republicans. read it again so you can see it for yourself, as you must have missed it the first time.

All members can see for themselves that you stated "a plan 15-20 years old". Perhaps YOU should read your own comment again try to support the WHOLE statement, not just the part that you still stand behind. 

BTFW, your link sucks. 

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Expert
1.2.60  Dulay  replied to  XXJefferson51 @1.2.55    5 years ago
Actually, a thinking person would realize that one would not advocate for the creation of a new 51st state of the union and promote its creation if it he thought it actually already exists.

The delusional belief in the existence of Jeffersonia has little to nothing to do with a new 51st state. That's merely the desire for attention and recognition. 

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Expert
1.2.61  Dulay  replied to  Texan1211 @1.2.58    5 years ago
Why would he advocate for something you claim he thinks already exists?

The delusional want others to accept their 'vision'. 

That would be monumentally STUPID.

I agree. 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
1.2.62  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Dulay @1.2.61    5 years ago

This seed is about the vile evil that is the SPLC and has nothing at all to do with my being a part of the movement here to make Jefferson our 51st state or that AARP regularly sends me their junk mail. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
1.2.63  Texan1211  replied to  XXJefferson51 @1.2.62    5 years ago
This seed is about the vile evil that is the SPLC and has nothing at all to do with my being a part of the movement here to make Jefferson our 51st state or that AARP regularly sends me their junk mail.

I suppose it is easier to make crap up about you than defend something as useless as the SPLC.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
1.2.64  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Texan1211 @1.2.63    5 years ago

Without a doubt you are 💯 % correct here.  

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Expert
1.2.65  Dulay  replied to  XXJefferson51 @1.2.62    5 years ago
This seed is about the vile evil that is the SPLC and has nothing at all to do with my being a part of the movement here to make Jefferson our 51st state or that AARP regularly sends me their junk mail. 

Yet you've perpetuated the discussion about the AARP mailers to your Jeffersonia mailbox and allow others to do so. 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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1.2.66  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Dulay @1.2.65    5 years ago

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Dulay
Professor Expert
1.2.67  Dulay  replied to  XXJefferson51 @1.2.66    5 years ago

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Buzz of the Orient
Professor Expert
2  Buzz of the Orient    5 years ago
"Engaging in systematic defamation is not a tax-exempt purpose,"

I think that's a very good reason to confirm in order to deny the tax-exempt status.  Using taxpayer money to pay off lawsuits when they overstep should be another reason.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
2.1  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @2    5 years ago

I hope that the IRS sees it that way too.  

 
 
 
bbl-1
Professor Quiet
2.1.1  bbl-1  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.1    5 years ago

Ouch.  Another 'Trump burn' on the horizon.

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
2.3  Split Personality  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @2    5 years ago
Using taxpayer money to pay off lawsuits when they overstep should be another reason.

How so, counselor?   They are not using taxpayer money if they are tax exempt and raise $$ through donations, are they?

That being said, I would not mind seeing the end of almost alll tax exemptions, starting with the real estate rich Catholic Church.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Expert
2.3.1  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Split Personality @2.3    5 years ago

Oh, you're right.  It is the money that is donated to them by people who think it will be used beneficially that they are throwing away.  That itself should be a signal to anyone who wants to donate to them that their money will be wasted.

However, I'm not entirely wrong, it is taxpayers who are donating the money, since what they donate is a deductible amount from being taxed and they probably would not make charitable donations if it were not.

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
2.3.2  Split Personality  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @2.3.1    5 years ago
However, I'm not entirely wrong, it is taxpayers who are donating the money, since what they donate is a deductible amount from being taxed and they probably would not make charitable donations if it were not.

Not under the new improved tax law of 2017, thank you, but I will keep it in mind the next time someone in the family  pressures me for a charitable donation to the JDL, in fact most of my donations will be much much more vigorously scrutinized now that they don't affect my taxes.........

but you still might be partially correct about corporate donations, I don't know.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Expert
2.3.3  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Split Personality @2.3.2    5 years ago

I would not support the JDL either. Notwithstanding its stated good intentions of fighting antisemitism it went overboard, accused of terrorist activities.  Just as I would not support SPLC that notwithstanding its stated good intentions of fighting extremism (provided it is right wing extremism) it goes overboard and is capable of destroying peoples lives (example - Nawaz). 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
2.3.4  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Split Personality @2.3.2    5 years ago

2018 was the first year since 1995 that I did not itemize.  The increase in standard and per child tax credit was such that it was larger than SALT, mortgage interest, and charitable contributions.  I got back an extra $1,600.00.  I still give to my church and it’s charity’s and missions even without the 18% deduction. I also give to charities at fast food places by rounding up to the nearest higher dollar and a dollar at Safeway gas when filling up to whatever charity they are collecting for.  I never saved the receipts or deducted those anyway.  

 
 
 
luther28
Sophomore Silent
3  luther28    5 years ago

Senator Cotton would serve us all well to go back to sleep or concentrate on matters of importance, whichever comes first.

 
 
 
The Magic 8 Ball
Masters Quiet
3.2  The Magic 8 Ball  replied to  luther28 @3    5 years ago
concentrate on matters of importance,

taking down every progressive stronghold is of much importance.

 
 
 
katrix
Sophomore Participates
3.2.2  katrix  replied to    5 years ago

Did you hear that the fraudulent auxiliary of the conservative right wing, WorldNutDaily, is about to shut down? The charlatan owner has been exposed for stealing from his devoted conspiracy theorists and fake news addicts, and the business is probably on its last legs.  Unfortunately, it's probably too late to fix the people who fell for their BS articles.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
3.2.3  JBB  replied to  The Magic 8 Ball @3.2    5 years ago

First they will come for the SPLC, ACLU, ADL, NAACP, GLAD, CAIR and the HRC and then eventually inevitably the freedom haters will come for you... 

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
3.2.5  Split Personality  replied to    5 years ago

I don't know. It's listed as being a Satire/Fake news site owned by 2 Canadians who rely on advertising income to keep the site going.

No mention of it's Canadian tax status.

 
 
 
katrix
Sophomore Participates
3.2.6  katrix  replied to  Split Personality @3.2.5    5 years ago

That's WorldNewsDaily - the conspiracy fake news site is WorldNetDaily.

 
 
 
katrix
Sophomore Participates
3.2.7  katrix  replied to    5 years ago
Was it a tax-exempt non profit?

Neither you nor Magic 8 Ball had "tax exempt non profit" as a qualifier for progressive strongholds that should be taken down, so why would I?

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
3.2.8  Split Personality  replied to    5 years ago

Initially it was, but Farah saw multiple opportunities to make money and spun it off as a 'for profit' corporation in 1999.

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
3.2.9  Split Personality  replied to  katrix @3.2.6    5 years ago

Thanks, hard to tell all of the acronyms apart, lol

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
3.2.10  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  The Magic 8 Ball @3.2    5 years ago

That’s for sure.  Especially when others use their work to censor and bankrupt these groups or the expression of their values message.

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
3.2.11  Split Personality  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.2.10    5 years ago
or the expression of their values message.

That is one of the greatest values of this country and the doctrine of separation of church and state.

Every single citizen gets to decide on which values they want regardless of the thousands of messages.

Not me or you or anyone else........

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
3.2.12  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Split Personality @3.2.8    5 years ago

World Net Daily is a great source of news, politics, opinion, and religion. One of the very best.  

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
3.2.13  JBB  replied to  katrix @3.2.6    5 years ago

Oh Gee, and here i wrongly thought it was the Whirled Nut Daily /S...

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
3.2.14  Split Personality  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.2.12    5 years ago

World net daily has turned into  a colossal failure...

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
3.2.15  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  JBB @3.2.3    5 years ago

You could get in trouble using any paraphrase of that comment....Fortunately, there is a conservative alternative to each and that’s a good thing.  

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
3.2.16  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Split Personality @3.2.11    5 years ago

What does the SPLC have to do with the separation of church and state?  

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Expert
3.2.17  Dulay  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.2.10    5 years ago
That’s for sure.  Especially when others use their work to censor and bankrupt these groups or the expression of their values message.

You support and exalt fundamentalist Christian groups that do the exact same thing. Why are you against those who furnish opposing FACTS?  

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
3.3  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  luther28 @3    5 years ago

The SPLC has been behaving badly

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Expert
3.3.1  Dulay  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.3    5 years ago

[DELETE]

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
3.3.2  JBB  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.3    5 years ago

The SPLC has been breaking fundraising records since Trump's election...

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
3.3.3  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @3.3.2    5 years ago
The SPLC has been breaking fundraising records since Trump's election.

Which proves that there are lots of idiots in America or some very dumb rich ones.

B.F.D.

Doesn't change WHAT the SPLC has become.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
3.3.4  JBB  replied to  Texan1211 @3.3.3    5 years ago

The SPLC is raising more $ in response to a proliferation of Trumpian Hate!

The number of certified hate groups is multiplying under Trump & Company.

Of course hate groups want to go unidentified but the SPLC will persevere...

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
3.3.5  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @3.3.4    5 years ago

Trumpian Hate would refer to the gross display by some towards our President.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
3.3.6  JBB  replied to  Texan1211 @3.3.5    5 years ago

Okay then, either way you want to look at it Trump inspires the hatred...

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
3.3.7  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @3.3.6    5 years ago
Okay then, either way you want to look at it Trump inspires the hatred...

Yep, there are plenty of fools who can do nothing but hate the President.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
3.3.8  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  JBB @3.3.4    5 years ago

The SPLC is a terrorist inspiring bigoted hate organization.  It is also sexist and racist.  It needs to be stripped of its tax exempt status and  confess its wrong doing.  It is an evil organization run by evil people on a sinister mission of hate.  

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
3.3.9  JBB  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.3.8    5 years ago

That is what the minions of hate would say about the SPLC's good work.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Expert
3.3.10  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  JBB @3.3.9    5 years ago

Do you deny that it has caused people to use guns to shoot or threaten others?  I can give you examples.

Do you deny that it has been sued for wrongly libeling anyone?  Do you want an example of that as well?

Or do you already know that it has caused or done those things?

And you hold it up as being a paragon of virtue.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
3.3.11  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  JBB @3.3.4    5 years ago

The SPLC and all who use their list are the real hate groups in America 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
3.3.12  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Texan1211 @3.3.7    5 years ago

And that is exactly what a great many of them are....

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
3.3.13  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @3.3.10    5 years ago

It and it’s membership are a dark stain of evil in America.  

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Expert
3.3.14  Dulay  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @3.3.10    5 years ago
Do you deny that it has caused people to use guns to shoot or threaten others?  I can give you examples.

By your standard, Trump 'caused' MANY people to use violence or the threat of violence. I can give you examples. 

Do you deny that it has been sued for wrongly libeling anyone?  Do you want an example of that as well?

We know the ONE example that has been upheld. Do you have another? Can you name a 45+ year legal organization that hasn't made a mistake? 

Or do you already know that it has caused or done those things?

Do YOU know what beneficial things they have caused and done Buzz? 

And you hold it up as being a paragon of virtue.

Yes, since I recognize that NO long standing organization is PERFECT. I balance the good work that they have done with the mistakes that they've made. Their opponents on the right have a shitty track record that is being ignored by their supporters. 

 
 
 
Phoenyx13
Sophomore Silent
3.3.15  Phoenyx13  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @3.3.10    5 years ago
Do you deny that it has caused people to use guns to shoot or threaten others?  I can give you examples.

Do you deny that it has been sued for wrongly libeling anyone?  Do you want an example of that as well?

Or do you already know that it has caused or done those things?

And you hold it up as being a paragon of virtue.

a very interesting argument that can be used for a variety of topics - and other organizations to lose their tax exempt status. are you sure you want to open that can of worms ?

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Expert
3.3.16  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Phoenyx13 @3.3.15    5 years ago

Maybe it's a can of worms, or a Pandora's box, that SHOULD be opened.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Expert
3.3.17  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Dulay @3.3.14    5 years ago

You make a very good argument, but I really don't give a shit about Trump - he's not MY president,  and what does he have to do with SPLC anyway?

However, when an organization spews hatred on Muslim Reformers like Ayaan Ali Hersi, I DO give a damn.  Yes, Nawaz was successful in suing for libel, a battle against a law department that has millions of dollars to waste in order to find and use every possible way to defeat a righteous claimant and drag them through the courts until they give up - you know what profession I retired from so you know that I know that game.  Many are unable to afford that battle.  And I understand that there are a number of lawsuits in progress - so maybe there happened to be MORE than just one mistake, eh, Dulay? 

And as well, I DO give a damn when those who publish warnings about REAL threats or report REAL terrorist crimes that the mainstream media in its obvious bias ignores, are named by SPLC to discredit them.  Hey, go down in the mine without the canary - what do you think is going to happen to you?   Whatever happened to your First Amendment, eh?

Apparently the FBI dropping reliance on SPLC may have been false news, but for some of its purposes, however, I believe it's correct that the DOD did.

 
 
 
Phoenyx13
Sophomore Silent
3.3.18  Phoenyx13  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @3.3.16    5 years ago
Maybe it's a can of worms, or a Pandora's box, that SHOULD be opened.

you could be correct - but you'll definitely anger a great many people who currently support many tax exempt organizations (other organizations [or topics] that have "caused people to use guns to shoot or threaten others") ... so just be careful... the argument you make cuts many ways for people who live in this country.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
3.3.19  Texan1211  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @3.3.17    5 years ago

The IRS certainly had no problem "investigating" conservative groups which applied for tax-exempt status under Obama.

They could easily do this.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
3.3.20  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  JBB @3.3.9    5 years ago

The SPLC no longer does good work and hasn’t done so  for a couple decades now.  

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
4  Sean Treacy    5 years ago

It's been fun watching the SPLC get exposed as one of the more successful scams of the last 100 years. 

The MSM is finally catching on to what local media in Montgomery and actual investigative reporters have been reporting for decades. The SPLC is a racist organization that exploits gullible liberal donors through crude fear mongering to generate millions for it's founder. 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
4.1  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Sean Treacy @4    5 years ago

It’s it’s about time.  Justice is coming

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Expert
4.2  Dulay  replied to  Sean Treacy @4    5 years ago

Ask the KKK if they're a scam? 

 
 
 
KDMichigan
Junior Participates
4.2.1  KDMichigan  replied to  Dulay @4.2    5 years ago
Ask the KKK if they're a scam? 

I didn't know that the KKK got tax exempt status, ignoring the problems with the SPLC is whistling walking by the graveyard IMO.

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Expert
4.2.2  Dulay  replied to  KDMichigan @4.2.1    5 years ago
I didn't know that the KKK got tax exempt status, ignoring the problems with the SPLC is whistling walking by the graveyard IMO.

READ MORE CAREFULLY. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
4.2.3  Texan1211  replied to  KDMichigan @4.2.1    5 years ago

The SPLC is a waste of human flesh and time.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
4.2.4  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Texan1211 @4.2.3    5 years ago

They are the perfect definition of what Rush Limbaugh refers to as human debris.    

 
 
 
luther28
Sophomore Silent
4.2.5  luther28  replied to  XXJefferson51 @4.2.4    5 years ago
They are the perfect definition of what Rush Limbaugh refers to as human debris.

This is a fairly accurate description of Mr. Limbaugh, kind of ironic as he seems to have defined himself.

 
 
 
SteevieGee
Professor Silent
5  SteevieGee    5 years ago

I think they should investigate the fundie christian churches.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
5.1  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  SteevieGee @5    5 years ago

On what legal basis?  

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
6  cjcold    5 years ago

Thank God for the SPLC! The U.S. needs organizations that shine a bright light on hate filled fascist groups.

 I wonder how many SPLC  designated hate groups Cotton belongs to?

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
6.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  cjcold @6    5 years ago

The funny thing is the cult leader/founder did work for the KKK prior to realizing the millions to be made exploiting gullible liberals by scaring them.

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
6.1.1  cjcold  replied to  Sean Treacy @6.1    5 years ago

Can't seem to find any reference to that. Maybe you could provide a link.

This WASP is plenty scared of the 1,000+ hate groups in this country. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
6.1.2  Sean Treacy  replied to  cjcold @6.1.1    5 years ago

his WASP is plenty scared of the 1,000+ hate groups in this country.  

What can I say, some people are afraid of leprechauns, or fluoride or vaccines.

As the left wing journalist Nathan J. Robinson just wrote in Current Affairs:

The biggest problem with the hate map, though, is that it’s an outright fraud. I don’t use that term casually. I mean, the whole thing is a willful deception designed to scare older liberals into writing checks to the SPLC. .... This whole SPLC set-up strikes me as fraudulent in the extreme. I don’t know how else to describe it. They have a team of people investigating these groups. They have to  know that they’re inflating the danger. They know that when they report “over 1,000” hate groups in America, they’ve deliberately excluded membership numbers in order to sound as scary as possible. They’re perpetrating a deception, because they don’t want you to know that groups like the “ Asatru Folk Assembly ” are no political threat. The SPLC has continuously sent out terrifying lies to make old people part with their money. They’ve become fantastically wealthy from telling people that individual kooks in Kennesaw are “hate groups” on the march.

Read the whole article.  

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
6.3  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  cjcold @6    5 years ago

I belong to, or donate to or am affiliated with indirectly or am sympathetic to each and every one of the mainstream Christian and mainstream conservative political ones.  Some I make a point of joining specifically because either SPLC and or MBFC sticks that ludicrous so called hate label on them.  This is a battle to the finish and I will not be satisfied until the SPLC drops their defamatory libelous slander labels on us or they are utterly and completely destroyed as an organization financially by legal actions and judgements. 

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
6.3.1  cjcold  replied to  XXJefferson51 @6.3    5 years ago

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Split Personality
Professor Guide
6.3.2  Split Personality  replied to  XXJefferson51 @6.3    5 years ago

What  a waste of money.

And an absolute display of something completely foreign to Christianity...

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
6.3.3  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Split Personality @6.3.2    5 years ago

I don’t see Liberty Council, Eagle Forum, American Family Association, Family Research Council, Concerned Women For America, Alliance Defending Freedom as either a waste of money or foreign to Christianity. Getting their message out despite the bigoted labels from the terrorist inspiring human debris at the SPLC is a high priority.  

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
6.3.4  Split Personality  replied to  XXJefferson51 @6.3.3    5 years ago

When their concerns are wrapped up in a Biblical battle for morality

instead of the Constitution

it is both a waste of time, money and energy that could have been spent doing something worthwhile,

instead of investing time and energy into worrying about what goes on inside other peoples heads and bedrooms

and resorting to childish name calling.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
6.3.5  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Split Personality @6.3.4    5 years ago

It is the SPLC and MBFC that worry about what others are thinking and engaging in purely childish and juvenile labeling. They should simply be openly mocked and laughed at to their faces and shown no respect whatsoever.  I surely don’t. They are worthy only of sheer and utter contempt.  Nothing more.  

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
6.4  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  cjcold @6    5 years ago

There are some groups on their list that I joined specifically because of the terrorist inspiring bigoted hate groups designation.  I openly and proudly identify with and am a part of or donor to several mainstream conservative and Christian groups on their list.  Being a conservative Christian on their so called hate list is a personal badge of honor as far as I’m concerned.  

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
7  seeder  XXJefferson51    5 years ago

End their tax exempt status now

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Expert
7.1  Dulay  replied to  XXJefferson51 @7    5 years ago
End their tax exempt status now

Based on your standards, ALL Churches should loose their exemptions too. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
7.1.1  Texan1211  replied to  Dulay @7.1    5 years ago
Based on your standards, ALL Churches should loose their exemptions too.

Nope. Can't breach that wall of separation between church and state.

You'll have to try another tactic.

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Expert
7.1.2  Dulay  replied to  Texan1211 @7.1.1    5 years ago
Nope. Can't breach that wall of separation between church and state. You'll have to try another tactic.

So is it your posit that taxing Churches would be a violation of the Constitution? Please do cite the Article and section it would violate. 

Oh and those tax deductions for donations have got to go if they violate the Johnson Amendment too. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
7.1.3  Texan1211  replied to  Dulay @7.1.2    5 years ago
So is it your posit that taxing Churches would be a violation of the Constitution? Please do cite the Article and section it would violate.
Oh and those tax deductions for donations have got to go if they violate the Johnson Amendment too

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
7.1.4  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Dulay @7.1    5 years ago

Churches here ⛪ don’t do things to target and defame those that disagree with them that the SPLC does to us who disagree with them. 

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Expert
7.1.5  Dulay  replied to  XXJefferson51 @7.1.4    5 years ago
Churches here ⛪ don’t do things to target and defame those that disagree with them that the SPLC does to us who disagree with them. 

Thanks for another uninformed and obtuse comment. 

Christian schools and colleges refuse to allow LGBT students or kids with gay parents. Catholic Bishops denounce LGBT equality and STILL refuse to adopt to gay couples.

At best, Christian fundamentalists harass and intimidate women who visit clinics, at worst, they bomb them and/or murder their doctors. 

Ya, doesn't sound like people who 'disagree with them' are being targeted at all Xx. /s

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
7.1.6  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Dulay @7.1.5    5 years ago

It is their free exercise there of right in the 1st amendment of the constitution to live and act according to ones conscience on matters of faith and religious belief.  

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Expert
7.1.7  Dulay  replied to  XXJefferson51 @7.1.6    5 years ago
It is their free exercise there of right in the 1st amendment of the constitution to live and act according to ones conscience on matters of faith and religious belief.  

Religion is always the go to excuse for discrimination. 

BTFW, remember when you claimed that secularism is a religion? Guess you forgot that you gave secular organizations the SAME protection as evangelicals to express themselves based on their  'conscience'. 

OPPS...

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
7.1.8  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Dulay @7.1.7    5 years ago

....The Federation for American Immigration Reform, or FAIR, is one of many organizations targeted by the Alabama-based SPLC, but in recent weeks FAIR has observed as the SPLC was rocked by the firing of its founder, the resignation of its president, and accusations of racism and sexism.

Those recent developments come after the liberal media often cites the SPLC and its “hate map” in the same sentence that it describes groups such as FAIR, the Family Research Council, and many others that are considered “hate” groups due to their views on hot-button issues such as biblical marriage, LGBT rights, and illegal immigration.  

FAIR spokesman Ira Mehlman says his group is pushing back on the SPLC with a new report, “A Journalist’s Guide to Understanding the Tactics of the SPLC.”

The report, he says, documents dozens of investigative reports about the SPLC spanning 30 years of journalism, including unfriendly reporting by The Washington Post, Politico, Harper’s magazine, The Nation, and Alabama’s own Montgomery Advertiser, which was nominated for a Pulitzer Prize for its three-year investigation of the SPLC.

“Journalists from left, right, and center, who have looked closely at the SPLC,” says Mehlman, “have all concluded that this organization has zero credibility."

The report, in fact, quotes one reporter who asks why other media outlets treat the left-wing SPLC as if it’s “some kind of neutral Consumer Reportsguide” to what is tolerable and intolerable.

Mehlman contends the SPLC is itself a hate group....https://onenewsnow.com/media/2019/04/08/fair-documents-medias-scrutiny-of-splc

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Expert
7.1.9  Dulay  replied to  XXJefferson51 @7.1.8    5 years ago
The Federation for American Immigration Reform, or FAIR

Just another Right wing anti immigrant racist organization. The Anti Defamation League has over 50 articles about the racism and bigotry of 'FAIR' and it's founder John Tanton. 

 
 
 
bbl-1
Professor Quiet
8  bbl-1    5 years ago

Cotton is a christian taliban.  Judicial Watch is a scam ran by the Mercers and should be...…………...safely sequestered in a gulag.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
8.1  Texan1211  replied to  bbl-1 @8    5 years ago
christian taliban.

Yet another made-up label to denigrate others who don't believe as you do.

jrSmiley_55_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Expert
8.1.1  Dulay  replied to  Texan1211 @8.1    5 years ago

Kind of like how y'all use 'liberal'. 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
8.1.2  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Texan1211 @8.1    5 years ago

Did you notice that he wants to create an American gulag to lock up people like us in groups he doesn’t agree with or like such as Judicial Watch as he said?  

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
8.2  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  bbl-1 @8    5 years ago

I’m proud to have been a donor to Judicial Watch. They are a great legal organization and government watchdog.  I proudly stand by them and their mission.  

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
9  Texan1211    5 years ago
Kind of like how y'all use 'liberal'.

Most people use liberal in the same way they use conservative.

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Expert
9.1  Dulay  replied to  Texan1211 @9    5 years ago
Most people use liberal in the same way they use conservative.

Not many of the conservatives here...

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
9.1.1  Texan1211  replied to  Dulay @9.1    5 years ago

Exactly the same, despite protestations to the contrary.

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Expert
9.1.2  Dulay  replied to  Texan1211 @9.1.1    5 years ago

Glad we agree. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
9.1.3  Texan1211  replied to  Dulay @9.1.2    5 years ago

Yes, both sides use the terms conservative and liberal in the same ways to describe the opposition.

One of us isn't afraid to admit it.

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Expert
9.1.4  Dulay  replied to  Texan1211 @9.1.3    5 years ago
Yes, both sides use the terms conservative and liberal in the same ways to describe the opposition.

That's false. Conservatives almost always us 'liberal' as a pejorative while they use 'conservative' as a badge of honor. 

One of us isn't afraid to admit it.

Yes, you've avoided doing so. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
9.1.5  Texan1211  replied to  Dulay @9.1.4    5 years ago

Oh, FFS.

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Liberals use conservative in the same way conservatives use liberal.

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XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
9.1.6  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Texan1211 @9.1.5    5 years ago

Because their 💩 doesn’t stink like ours uniquely does....  /s. jrSmiley_91_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
9.1.7  Texan1211  replied to  XXJefferson51 @9.1.6    5 years ago

By Jove, I think you're on to something!

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
10  JohnRussell    5 years ago

If crackpot bigoted right wing televangelist organizations like Pat Robertson and his Christian Broadcasting Network are tax exempt, SPLC should be with no questions asked. The premise of this seed is thus moronic.

Pat Robertson Begs God To Take Out President Obama ...

crooksandliars.com /2014/04/ pat - robertson -begs-god-take-out-president

Pat Robertson today asked God to "deliver" the US from President Obama before it's too late. After implying that Obama is a Muslim , Robertson told 700 Club viewers: "We need to do something to pray to be delivered from this president. He is a disaster, an absolute disaster.

 
 

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