Trump gleefully admits it was his "sick idea" to use immigrants as pawns in his games of political retribution

  
By:  john-russell  •  3 months ago  •  134 comments

Trump gleefully admits it was his "sick idea" to use immigrants as pawns in his games of political retribution


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JohnRussell
1  author  JohnRussell    3 months ago
Trump tells Wisconsin rally: We're sending migrants to sanctuary cities

President Trump told a Green Bay, Wisconsin, rally Saturday that his administration is sending undocumented migrants to sanctuary cities.

"Last month alone, 100,000 illegal immigrants arrived at our borders, placing a massive strain on communities ... and public resources, like nobody has ever seen before. Now we're sending many of them to sanctuary cities, thank you very much. They ain't too happy about it. I'm proud to tell you that was actually my sick idea."

The state of play: The Department of Homeland Security has yet to announce the sanctuary cities plan. Senior White House officials and immigration lawyers have told Axios U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement wouldn't have enough funds for it and there'd be major liabilities if anyone got hurt during transfers.

https://www.axios.com/trump-migrants-sanctuary-cities-wisconsin-rally-bec874b6-c5ec-4548-a751-faab9901f59d.html

 
 
 
Tacos!
1.1  Tacos!  replied to  JohnRussell @1    3 months ago

Why is it sick? What do you have against migrants?

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
1.1.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  Tacos! @1.1    3 months ago

trmp was the one who said it was "sick"

Ask him what he has against migrants

 
 
 
JohnRussell
2  author  JohnRussell    3 months ago
 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
3  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh    3 months ago

It's actually going to help you. Chicago has been experiencing depopulation over the last five years. You know this though as the Chicago Tribune is doing a series on why it's happening.

The administration is going to send you entire caravans of people. It's an open border advocates dream.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
3.1  author  JohnRussell  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @3    3 months ago

The article is about Trump using the potentially illegal action of abuse of office to illegal abduction, hate crimes & a deliberate attack on the Bill of Rights & 14th Amendment.

 
 
 
The Magic Eight Ball
3.1.1  The Magic Eight Ball  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1    3 months ago
14th Amendment

the 14th  has nothing to do with illegals or asylum seekers. not even a little bit.

What is the 14th amendment to the US constitution?

The 14th amendment was adopted in 1868, after the American Civil War, and addresses the equal protection and rights of former slaves. The 14th amendment limits the action of state and local officials. In addition to equal protection under the law to all citizens, the amendment also addresses what is called "due process", which prevents citizens from being illegally deprived of life, liberty, or property.

https://www.bing.com/search?q=14th+Amendment&

 
 
 
JohnRussell
3.1.2  author  JohnRussell  replied to  The Magic Eight Ball @3.1.1    3 months ago
Now we're sending many of them to sanctuary cities, thank you very much. They ain't too happy about it. I'm proud to tell you that was actually my sick idea."

People who support Trump should be ashamed of themselves, it is as simple as that. 

 
 
 
The Magic Eight Ball
3.1.3  The Magic Eight Ball  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.2    3 months ago
People who support Trump should be ashamed of themselves,

there ya go thinking you know what you are talking about again. us voting to secure our border was nothing to be ashamed about.

seems to me people who supported "her" and her treasonous gang should be ashamed. but I digress.

why should the entire country carry the burden created by sanctuary cities open door policies?

cheers )

 
 
 
Greg Jones
3.1.4  Greg Jones  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1    3 months ago

Bullshit untruths.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
3.1.5  Greg Jones  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.2    3 months ago
People who support Trump should be ashamed of themselves, it is as simple as that. 

I proudly support Trump's brilliant comment. It directs the problem back to the politicians who are causing it.

A lot of NIMBY-ism going on by the liberals.

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
3.1.6  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  Greg Jones @3.1.4    3 months ago

Are the untruths bullshit or the bullshit untrue, Greg?  

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
3.1.7  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  Greg Jones @3.1.5    3 months ago
A lot of NIMBY-ism going on by the liberals.

That suggests that you don't think there are sanctuary cities, Greg, since they'd be the opposite of NIMBYism.  Or maybe you don't really know what NIMBY means.  Either way, your "thinking" today leaves a lot to be desired.  

 
 
 
Dulay
3.1.8  Dulay  replied to  The Magic Eight Ball @3.1.1    3 months ago
the 14th  has nothing to do with illegals or asylum seekers. not even a little bit.

It would behoove you to review the legal doctrines of incorporation and reverse incorporation.

Just as the Bill of Rights limit the States, the 14th Amendment limits the Feds. 

 
 
 
Greg Jones
3.1.9  Greg Jones  replied to  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו @3.1.7    3 months ago

I know there is because I live in one. They are all over the place and have been for years. They should be welcoming the new arrivals instead of saying they don't have any room in their back yards, which could become a real possibility if Initiated Ordinance 300 passes.

 Either way, your "thinking" today leaves a lot to be desired.  

And in the same spirit, I must submit that I can never detect any critical thinking in your comments.

 
 
 
Tacos!
3.1.10  Tacos!  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1    3 months ago
illegal abduction

What abduction? They brought themselves to this country and the idea here is that the federal government, rather than leaving them to wander the desert, will give them a free ride to a big city that has already declared it wants to welcome them.

hate crimes

There's not hate crime there.

a deliberate attack on the Bill of Rights

Which part?

14th Amendment

How?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
3.1.11  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.2    3 months ago
People who support Trump should be ashamed of themselves, it is as simple as that. 

No, people who supported Hillary & Obama should be ashamed and apologize to the nation!

As for the "sick idea" quote, you thought he was serious???

 
 
 
Jasper2529
3.1.12  Jasper2529  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.11    3 months ago
As for the "sick idea" quote, you thought he was serious???

Don't you know that Trump isn't allowed to make a sarcastic or humorous comment? 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
3.2  author  JohnRussell  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @3    3 months ago

The Chicago metropolitan area has close to 10 million people. It is a vast area of population, one of the largest in the nation. There are many reasons why people live in the suburbs. 

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
3.2.1  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  JohnRussell @3.2    3 months ago

The Exodus is occurring state wide,, it's a fact.

I wouldn't worry about it, you can tax the illegal immigrants Texas is getting ready to bus to you.

Just say thank you....

 
 
 
JohnRussell
3.2.2  author  JohnRussell  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @3.2.1    3 months ago

I'm not worried about Illinois.  It has the 5th largest GDP in the nation. 

https://www.statista.com/statistics/248023/us-gross-domestic-product-gdp-by-state/

 
 
 
The Magic Eight Ball
3.2.3  The Magic Eight Ball  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @3.2.1    3 months ago
I wouldn't worry about it, you can tax the illegal immigrants Texas is getting ready to bus to you. Just say thank you....

thank god my state banned sanctuary cities.

note to california, texans say thank you.

cheers :)

 
 
 
Texan1211
3.2.4  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @3.2.2    3 months ago
I'm not worried about Illinois. It has the 5th largest GDP in the nation.

Sure, sure, all is well in Illinois, right?

LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!

https://www.illinoispolicy.org/moodys-downgrades-illinois-to-1...

https://www.mercatus.org/statefiscalrankings/illinois

www.illinoispolicy.org/reports/203-billion-and-counting-total-debt-for-state-and-local-retirement-benefits

https://www.forbes.com/sites/patrickgleason/2017/06/30/illinois...

 
 
 
The Magic Eight Ball
3.2.5  The Magic Eight Ball  replied to  JohnRussell @3.2.2    3 months ago
It has the 5th largest GDP in the nation.

so, we can send 1/5th of the illegals there... 

sweet :)

 
 
 
JohnRussell
3.2.6  author  JohnRussell  replied to  Texan1211 @3.2.4    3 months ago

  • Record-breaking number of tourists visit Chicago in 2017 ...

    https://chicago.curbed.com/2018/1/17/16899342/tourism-record...

    Jan 17, 2018 · Eight hotels are scheduled to open in 2018. Chicago saw 55.2 million visitors in 2017; as a result, the city set a new tourism record and reached the mayor’s goal a few years early.

    • Author: Sara Freund

Over a million outsiders per week visit Chicago for business, for entertainment, and to see the sights of the big city. It is the "capital" of the US middle west. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
3.2.7  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @3.2.6    3 months ago

Man, all that money, and the state STILL can't fund its own pensions.

Tell me more of the great "success" that is Illinois.

https://www.moodys.coneed to hear a fantastic m/.../Illinois-State-of-credit-rating-600024371

https://www.moodys.com/credit-ratings/Illinois-State-University-IL...

https://www.illinoispolicy.org/illinois-now-has-the-lowest-credit...

https://www.illinoispolicy.org/illinois-has-lowest-credit-rating...

Tell us all more about how financially sound and well-off Illinois is, please.....I need to hear a fantastic fairy tale!

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
3.2.8  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  The Magic Eight Ball @3.2.5    3 months ago
so, we can send 1/5th of the illegals there...

How does that rightwing equation look where being fifth ranked = 1/5 of something?  

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
3.2.9  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  Texan1211 @3.2.7    3 months ago

Are you under some misapprehension that this problem only affects Democratic party controlled states when of the five states with the worst of this problem include Alaska and Ohio?  

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
3.2.10  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  Texan1211 @3.2.7    3 months ago
I need to hear a fantastic fairy tale!

Well, of course you do.  You obviously believe so many of them.  

 
 
 
Texan1211
3.2.11  Texan1211  replied to  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו @3.2.9    3 months ago
Are you under some misapprehension that this problem only affects Democratic party controlled states when of the five states with the worst of this problem include Alaska and Ohio?

Not at all.

I can easily recognize the dangers of illegal aliens. Too bad some can not.

I know of no red state that is a sanctuary state.

What states are sanctuary States 2018?
California 2018 a Sanctuary State. The five are California, Oregon, Connecticut, Rhode Island and Vermont. The power to enact laws to protect unlawful immigrants may even lie in the hands of counties, not just cities and States.

 
 
 
Texan1211
3.2.12  Texan1211  replied to  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו @3.2.10    3 months ago
Well, of course you do. You obviously believe so many of them.

Do bless us with some tale of how great the state of Illinois (which is the LAST state in financial rankings) is.

Tell us how a state with the 5th largest GDP can be so bad off financially. Why it has such a low, low credit ranking.

I eagerly anticipate your spinning Illinois as some financial Mecca for other states to emulate.

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
3.2.13  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  Texan1211 @3.2.11    3 months ago
I can easily recognize the dangers of illegal aliens.

Oh, I see.  You're now so desperate that you're trying to connect the state pension fund shortfalls to illegal immigration.  Jeebus, Tex.  [deleted]  This is what devotion to Scumbag has done to you...assuming it wasn't already gone before Scumbag. 

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
3.2.14  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  Texan1211 @3.2.12    3 months ago
Do bless us with some tale of how great the state of Illinois (which is the LAST state in financial rankings) is.

Illinois is not among the worst five states for pension fund insolvency.  So you'll need to come up with a different false scenario.  And, I'm afraid you'll be disappointed that I won't be defending any state's financial status.  I'll just continue to point out how your side keeps is now, suddenly, coming up with this phony (and lame beyond description) effort to deflect from Scumbag and using lies to do it. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
3.2.15  Texan1211  replied to  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו @3.2.14    3 months ago

Illinois has the lowest state credit rating---by FAR. It is a step above junk classification.

And in truth, Illinois and Kentucky are tied for lowest amount of pension funding.

https://taxfoundation.org/state-pensions-funding-2017

https://graphics.wsj.com/table/Connecticut_102015

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/10/18/state-pension-funds-continue-to...

 
 
 
Texan1211
3.2.16  Texan1211  replied to  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו @3.2.13    3 months ago
Oh, I see. You're now so desperate that you're trying to connect the state pension fund shortfalls to illegal immigration. Jeebus, Tex. It's not obvious you really have no self-respect left whatsoever. This is what devotion to Scumbag has done to you...assuming it wasn't already gone before Scumbag.

Ah, once again, (sigh*), you read what isn't there. Please do provide an example of me actually doing that with a quote or something. Love to see what you invent next!

 
 
 
JohnRussell
3.2.17  author  JohnRussell  replied to  Texan1211 @3.2.15    3 months ago

This article is not about illinois. BF made an off topic snide remark about Chicago as he often does and I made the mistake of humoring him a little. 

No more comments about Illinois by either side or I will ask Perrie to remove them all. 

 
 
 
Dulay
3.2.18  Dulay  replied to  Texan1211 @3.2.4    3 months ago

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Texan1211
3.2.19  Texan1211  replied to  Dulay @3.2.18    3 months ago

Removed for context

 
 
 
epistte
3.2.20  epistte  replied to  Texan1211 @3.2.11    3 months ago
Not at all. I can easily recognize the dangers of illegal aliens. Too bad some can not.

You were claiming that immigrants pose a danger to the the US, but the facts disagree with you.

It is difficult to know whether illegal immigrants are more likely to commit crimes than native-born Americans are.  All immigrants have a lower criminal incarceration rate and there are lower crime rates in the neighborhoods where they live, according to the near-unanimous findings of the peer-reviewed evidence.  Since 1911, large nationwide federal immigration commissions have asked whether immigrants are more crime-prone than native-born Americans and each one of them answered no, even when the rest of their reports unjustifiably blamed immigrants for virtually every problem in the United States.  From the 1911 Immigration Commission, also known as the Dillingham Commission, to the 1931 Wickersham Commission, and 1994’s Barbara Jordan Commission, each has reported that immigrants are less likely to commit crimes than native-born Americans. 

And the claim that immigrants are a tax burden also doesn't hold water. They pay more taxes than Amazon.

IRS estimates that about 6 million unauthorized immigrants file individual income tax returns each year. Research reviewed by the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office indicates that between 50 percent and 75 percent of unauthorized immigrants pay federal, state, and local taxes.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
3.2.21  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  JohnRussell @3.2.6    3 months ago

May be a great place to visit. Sure would not want to live there though....

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
3.2.22  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  Texan1211 @3.2.16    3 months ago
Ah, once again, (sigh*),

.......we have to remind you of your own comment history  (deja vu all over again as we had to do with the mess you made trying to pretend you knew how the ACA exchanges worked)

Here you are going on about pensions in 3.2.7:

Man, all that money, and the state STILL can't fund its own pensions.

Then  somehow to try to relate it to illegal immigration in 3.2.11:

I can easily recognize the dangers of illegal aliens. Too bad some can not.

Then try to pretend you were talking about the completely unrelated matter of state credit ratings in 3.2.15 and finally try to pull a lame attempt at gaslighting us with this comment.  I know you think you're clever Tex but you leave to much evidence to the contrary to keep trying to get away with it. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
3.2.23  Tessylo  replied to  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו @3.2.8    3 months ago
'How does that rightwing equation look where being fifth ranked = 1/5 of something?'

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The Magic Eight Ball
4  The Magic Eight Ball    3 months ago

it was an awesome idea.

  • we do not want illegals in our cities
  • sanctuary cities want illegals in their cities.

everyone gets what they want

cheers :)

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
4.1  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  The Magic Eight Ball @4    3 months ago
it was an awesome idea.

Yeah, it certainly ranks with Scumbag's other "awesome ideas."  Let's look at a few of them:

1. Building a "big, beautiful 30' [or was it 100?] concrete wall (well, really a fence now)

2. Making Mexico pay for that wall (which isn't one anyway). 

3.  Better and cheaper health insurance for "EVERYONE"--we just have to wait until he's re-elected, though.  

4.  Separating children from families and then losing track of the parents (as these children were hidden all around the country to keep them from being located)

5. Shielding the Saudi prince who had a US permanent resident and journalist murdered and hacked apart. 

Is no lie or failure that Scumbag's faithful don't worship?

 
 
 
charger 383
5  charger 383    3 months ago

Like taking feral cats to the crazy cat person

 
 
 
Texan1211
6  Texan1211    3 months ago

WTF is "sick" about it?

Sanctuary cities and states WANT more illegal aliens, and have no problem with illegal aliens living amongst them, so WTF is the problem?

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
6.1  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  Texan1211 @6    3 months ago
WTF is "sick" about it?

Why are you asking John?  Your Scumbag's the one who used the word.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
7  author  JohnRussell    3 months ago
WTF is "sick" about it? WTF is the problem?

Trump himself said it is sick. Maybe the "problem" is yours. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
7.1  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @7    3 months ago
Trump himself said it is sick. Maybe the "problem" is yours.

I think it is a brilliant plan. Sanctuary cities and states care more for illegal aliens than US citizens, so have fun getting more illegal aliens!

Surely Democrats in these "sanctuaries" aren't getting burned out with illegal aliens, are they? The more the merrier, right?

They wanted illegal aliens, HAVE some illegal aliens!

 
 
 
JohnRussell
7.1.1  author  JohnRussell  replied to  Texan1211 @7.1    3 months ago

Trump’s rhetoric about undocumented immigrants and asylum seekers has not just been about how they are taking advantage of lax American laws or that they are in the country illegally but that they are also dangerous. He has decried them as gang members, “animals” and even terrorists. He has said Mexico and Central American countries are sending their dregs northward. “They’re bringing drugs, they’re bringing crime, they’re rapists,” Trump said in his 2015 presidential announcement speech, “and some, I assume, are good people.”

So what better way to deal with the increasing problem at the Southern border, Trump reasons, than to ... tell these alleged criminals they’ll get a one-way ticket to a community that will welcome them?

The first major issue with this is that, regardless of where these people are sent, they can go wherever they want after that. The Post’s Nick Miroff and Tim Meko this weekend showed us where people tend to go once they cross the border, and it’s to nearly every corner of the country. If people have the means and wherewithal to get from the border to Crookston, Minn., what’s to stop them from, after they get sent to San Francisco, simply resuming their plans to go wherever they initially intended to go?

Supporters of this policy would argue that they might just stay in the sanctuary city because it is welcoming, but there are reasons people make long treks to places like Crookston rather than heading straight for sanctuary cities. They may have family in the area. They may know there is work waiting for them. And being diverted initially upon entry isn’t likely to deter many of them from reaching wherever it is they hope their final destination will be.

The second issue is that this does nothing to address the allegedly huge problems Trump brought up. There is no evidence that these immigrants or asylum seekers are responsible for more crime than American citizens, and Trump’s own administration has said there isno evidence of terrorist groups accessing the United States via the Southern border. But even if Trump were right, what would turning such people loose in the American homeland do? If they stay in the sanctuary cities, those cities would have to deal with them, yes. But so might the federal government. And if they have plans to join gangs like MS-13 or hatch terrorists plots, giving them a free pass into American society — any part of it — would seem like a really bad idea.

Even if they did stay in sanctuary cities, that would also run counter to Trump’s stated warnings about this group. Sanctuary cities are less likely to turn undocumented immigrants over to federal authorities for minor offenses -- or even to ask about their legal status. Having them reside in these cities would seem to allow the ne’er-do-wells among them to stay off the radar of a federal government who might hold them accountable and prevent such the kind of tragedy Trump warns about.

And finally, there is the incentive that this would create. Trump has rather clearly embracedthings like family separation as a deterrent — in hopes that it would send a message to other would-be border-crossers that they would rather not deal with all that crossing the border entails. This policy would create the opposite incentive. It would tell people who cross the border illegally or seek asylum that they would get a one-way ticket to what are mostly major American cities. That seems a much more attractive prospect than simply being detained.

All of which is to say this likely isn’t actually a serious policy consideration by Trump. He likes to stir the pot. He wants to put sanctuary cities and those who support them in the position of saying, “No, we can’t take these people,” and have these people look like hypocrites to Trump’s base. I’m not sure it’s had the desired effect, apart from the odd reaction from people like Cher.

But more than anything, the supposed policy idea is a complete non sequitur when it comes to Trump’s stated reasons for a border crackdown. It’s intended to be punitive and perhaps elicit some kind of action by Democrats, but it probably wouldn’t even really satisfy those goals.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/04/15/why-trumps-idea-send-immigrants-sanctuary-cities-makes-no-sense/

 
 
 
Texan1211
7.1.2  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @7.1.1    3 months ago

Wow, it is absolutely shocking that NOW many Dems don't want illegal aliens in their communities.

Of course liberals advocating FOR illegal aliens must be shocked that Trump is giving them exactly what they want--more illegal aliens.

Sounds like a win-win. 

And the majority of illegal aliens reside in just a handful of states, so I don't expect any mass illegal alien exodus to Minnesota any time soon.

If Democrats don't want to be seen as illegal alien-enablers then they should look at the policies they have passed doing EXACTLY that.

What I know is that it is a damn shame that some Democratic lawmakers love illegal aliens more than US citizens.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
7.1.3  author  JohnRussell  replied to  Texan1211 @7.1.2    3 months ago

I don't care if they send any here or not. 

Last night in Green Bay Trump admitted that his idea was political. "Sick idea".  You don't say that reasonable, thoughtful plans are "my sick idea". 

His big mouth once again reveals his unfitness for his office. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
7.1.4  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @7.1.3    3 months ago
I don't care if they send any here or not.

Good. Then there is no sense in bitching about Trump's plan.

Last night in Green Bay Trump admitted that his idea was political. "Sick idea". You don't say that reasonable, thoughtful plans are "my sick idea"

So what? Is making a community a sanctuary for illegal aliens NOT a political move?

His big mouth once again reveals his unfitness for his office.

John, no matter WHAT Trump ever COULD utter, you would be deeply offended and mad about it. You aren;t fooling anyone--your hatred of Trump is well known.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
7.1.5  author  JohnRussell  replied to  Texan1211 @7.1.4    3 months ago
So what? Is making a community a sanctuary for illegal aliens NOT a political move?

There is nothing that prevents republican controlled cities from becoming "sanctuary" cities, so the answer is no. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
7.1.6  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @7.1.5    3 months ago
There is nothing that prevents republican controlled cities from becoming "sanctuary" cities, so the answer is no.

For the most part, common sense and love of country would prevent most Republican cities, counties and states from repeating Democratic mistakes.

Of COURSE it is political--there is no other reason to do it otherwise.

 
 
 
The Magic Eight Ball
7.1.7  The Magic Eight Ball  replied to  JohnRussell @7.1.5    3 months ago
There is nothing that prevents republican controlled cities from becoming "sanctuary"

there are many reasons why republicans do not follow democrat policy... LOL

btw didja know sanctuary cities are illegal in texas? we don't play that game anymore.

sanctuary cities "prevented"  and my bet is other states follow our lead soon enough.

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
7.1.8  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  Texan1211 @7.1    3 months ago
I think it is a brilliant plan.

Do you really?  What makes you think all the people shipped to sanctuary cities are going to stay there.  Certainly no one in those cities are going to force them to stay.   Scumbag's "brilliant" idea would end up releasing tens of thousands of undocumented entrants to go anywhere they please.  

 
 
 
Greg Jones
7.1.9  Greg Jones  replied to  JohnRussell @7.1.1    3 months ago

It's true.

We're getting the worst that Central America and Mexico have to offer....the "dregs" if you will.

Unskilled, poor, often carrying disease and vermin, with all kinds of criminals and gangers sprinkled  in the mix.

We already have enough of those who are citizens...and you want thousands more here??

 
 
 
Greg Jones
7.1.10  Greg Jones  replied to  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו @7.1.8    3 months ago
would end up releasing tens of thousands of undocumented entrants to go anywhere they please.  

That's what already happening at the border, because the there are not enough people, facilities, and funds to handle the oncoming hoards of immigrant caravan busses. And that's just the ones trying to get through the ports of entry.

This is all the fault of the Democrats who have resisted doing anything useful towards border security. And are you saying you didn't know this??

 
 
 
Texan1211
7.1.11  Texan1211  replied to  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו @7.1.8    3 months ago

oh, FFS.

Don't your post your faux concern about illegal aliens running all over the country NOW.

Plenty will stay in Sanctifornia.

 
 
 
XDm9mm
7.1.12  XDm9mm  replied to  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו @7.1.8    3 months ago
What makes you think all the people shipped to sanctuary cities are going to stay there.

Because they'll be welcomed with open arms and essentially given all the free shit they want, and they're protected by law enforcement and the judiciary from those big bad meanie ICE Officers.

I think it's a brilliant idea.

Sanctuary cities want the illegal alien invaders.

Non-sanctuary cities don't want them.

It's a win-win that makes both sides happy.

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
7.1.13  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  Texan1211 @7.1.4    3 months ago
Good. Then there is no sense in bitching about Trump's plan.

There's no bitching and there's no plan.  It was just another of Scumbag's bullshit to rouse the rabble.  And the rabble never fails to get roused. 

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
7.1.14  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  Texan1211 @7.1.11    3 months ago
Don't your post your faux concern about illegal aliens running all over the country NOW.

However did you get that from anything I wrote.....oh, yeah--your ever-desperate need to gin up a come back no matter how lame, right Tex? 

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
7.1.15  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  Greg Jones @7.1.10    3 months ago
This is all the fault of the Democrats who have resisted doing anything useful towards border security. And are you saying you didn't know this??

That is always the excuse the rightwing has to use every time their brainless policies predictably go to shit.  Won't you ever get tired of blaming liberals for all your failures, Greg?  Is everything that goes wrong in your life someone else's fault? 

 
 
 
Texan1211
7.1.16  Texan1211  replied to  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו @7.1.13    3 months ago
And the rabble never fails to get roused.

Pretty good explanation of why Democratci progressive liberals are whining and crying about it!

Kudos!

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
7.1.17  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  Texan1211 @7.1.4    3 months ago
John, no matter WHAT Trump ever COULD utter, you would be deeply offended and mad about it.

Anyone with a shred of decency, a concept of honesty and cared a whit about this country should be offended every time that Scumbag opens his filthy mouth.  

 
 
 
Texan1211
7.1.18  Texan1211  replied to  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו @7.1.17    3 months ago

LMFAO!

What really offends me is Democrats who have put all their eggs in the Great Mueller's basket, and now won't start impeachment proceedings.

What is the hold-up NOW?

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
7.1.19  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  Texan1211 @7.1.18    3 months ago
What is the hold-up NOW?

Why are you people always so impatient?   You said the same thing about the Mueller investigation--"why is it taking so long," you kept yammering.  And then you pounced and prematurely did your victory dance on Barr's lie about what was in it only to find out there were bombshells all over the full report for Scumbag.  I'd ask when you were ever going to learn but you've answered that question already many times.  

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
7.1.20  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  Texan1211 @7.1.16    3 months ago
Pretty good explanation of why Democratci progressive liberals are whining and crying about it!

Gawd, Tex.  That's as  lamely juvenile a come-back even by your low standards.  You are really scrabbling to hold on.  

 
 
 
Texan1211
7.1.21  Texan1211  replied to  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו @7.1.19    3 months ago

y'all have been screeching for two long years that the great Mueller was going to bring Trump down.

Last I looked, he is STILL your President, like it or not.

Don't the Democrats in Congress have any integrity?

Why haven't they filed impeachment yet???????

Didn't Mueller prove everything Dems needed to have proved for impeachment?

Bunch of arrogant pussy Democrats in Congress talking loads of shit but failing, as usual, to deliver anything worthwhile.

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
7.1.22  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  Texan1211 @7.1.2    3 months ago
Wow, it is absolutely shocking that NOW many Dems don't want illegal aliens in their communities.

You also seemed confused about what the term "sanctuary city" means. 

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
7.1.23  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  Texan1211 @7.1.21    3 months ago
Don't the Democrats in Congress have any integrity?

You obviously don't recognize that comment from someone with your history  is so grimly hilarious. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
7.1.24  Texan1211  replied to  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו @7.1.23    3 months ago
Don't the Democrats in Congress have any integrity?
You obviously don't recognize that comment from someone with your history is so grimly hilarious.

Your complete failure to answer what was asked and your pathetic attempt to deflect have been duly noted.

Again. 

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
7.1.25  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  Texan1211 @7.1.11    3 months ago
Don't your post your faux concern about illegal aliens running all over the country NOW.

Allowing for the possibility that the "structure" of the statement is a bit, let's say, "confusing," it seems to wrongly assume that I expressed any "concern."  I merely pointed out once again how Scumbag and his acolytes never seem to understand the unintended (or intended, for that matter) consequences of his bone-head "awesome ideas."   

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
7.1.26  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  Texan1211 @7.1.24    3 months ago
Your complete failure to answer what was asked and your pathetic attempt to deflect have been duly noted.

Didn't you mean to send that comment to yourself?  I say this because the "you" in it is a perfect self-description of its writer.  

But if you were still asking about Democrats' integrity (so nice of you to be concerned) that was addressed before you even asked after it.  Dems are embarking on a thorough public airing of everything in the Mueller report by bringing many, if not all, of the "players" in it before various committees for public and publicized testimony so the country can hear in their own words while watching them do so what Scumbag did (or didn't) do.  Unlike how republicans rushed the impeachment of Clinton in 1998 (and suffered as a result in that year's mid-terms, btw) only to have him acquitted in the Senate by large shortfalls of the 2/3 necessary to convict.  I can see one path for this that Dems might find at the end of all the hearings that impeachment isn't the proper course for the country to take and let the facts speak for themselves in the public arena as the 2020 election approaches.  What would your objections to that be? 

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
7.1.27  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  Texan1211 @7.1.21    3 months ago
y'all have been screeching for two long years that the great Mueller was going to bring Trump down

I think the screeching you heard was coming from inside the house as it were.  But, you can't seem to decide what to rant about, Tex.  Is it still the Mueller report (which did NOT exonerate Scumbag at all as far as obstruction goes;  quite the opposite in fact; it provides a detailed road map that prosecutors could use to indict Scumbag once he leaves office---I've discussed this in some detail else)?  You now seem to be under yet another one of your misapprehensions that there's anything close to a majority much less a consensus among Dems to impeach Scumbag. I think you get that from the rightwing pukefunnel you use as "information"  (to your frequent embarrassment)  rather than the real world.  

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
7.1.28  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  Texan1211 @7.1.24    3 months ago
Your complete failure to answer what was asked and your pathetic attempt to deflect have been duly noted.

Nothing I've written could come close with the pathetic idea you seem to have that you can goad Dems into doing something that you desperately hope might save Scumbag's miserable hide on election day, 2020.  

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
7.1.29  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  Texan1211 @7.1.21    3 months ago
Bunch of arrogant pussy Democrats in Congress talking loads of shit but failing, as usual, to deliver anything worthwhile.

I am really enjoying the "display" you're putting on today.  You're obviously "overwrought" at the idea that Dems aren't doing what you'd like them to do. My question is what in the world makes you think they'd either follow your advice or let themselves be cowed by someone with your politics? That's magical thinking on a massive scale. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
7.1.30  Texan1211  replied to  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו @7.1.8    3 months ago
Scumbag's "brilliant" idea would end up releasing tens of thousands of undocumented entrants to go anywhere they please.

So when California Democrats decided to make their state a sanctuary one, it was all about compassion.

Now, when illegal aliens might be free to roam elsewhere, it is sinister?

LMFAO at that outstanding bit of hypocrisy!

And once again, the majority of illegal aliens reside in a handful of states. Don't expect a bunch if illegal aliens to leave the safety of California for places like Minnesota!

 
 
 
Dulay
7.1.31  Dulay  replied to  Texan1211 @7.1.2    3 months ago
Wow, it is absolutely shocking that NOW many Dems don't want illegal aliens in their communities.

Asylum seekers aren't 'illegal aliens'.

If they WERE, Trump and YOU are talking about 'catch and release' on an epic scale. I thought y'all were agin' that...

Trump is talking about sending asylum seekers to sanctuary cities. Since they are here LEGALLY, that would equate to kidnapping or at minimum, human trafficking as defined by the UN. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
7.1.32  Texan1211  replied to  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו @7.1.28    3 months ago
pathetic idea you seem to have that you can goad Dems into doing something that you desperately hope might save Scumbag's miserable hide on election day, 2020.

I am quite sure in Bizarro World, impeachment proceedings is a harbinger of election success.

LMFAO at the sheer brilliance of that remark!

 
 
 
Dulay
7.1.33  Dulay  replied to  Texan1211 @7.1.30    3 months ago
Now, when illegal aliens might be free to roam elsewhere, it is sinister?

How is FORCING an asylum seeker to travel 'free roam elsewhere'? 

 
 
 
Texan1211
7.1.34  Texan1211  replied to  Dulay @7.1.31    3 months ago
Asylum seekers aren't 'illegal aliens'.

Well, no shit, Sherlock. Who said they were? Are you attempting AGIAN to argue points no one makes? Intellectually dishonest way to attempt to debate. I ain't playing that shit today.

If they WERE, Trump and YOU are talking about 'catch and release' on an epic scale. I thought y'all were agin' that...

I am not repsonsible for every thought that pops into your head. Own it yourself, no matter how wrong it is!

Trump is talking about sending asylum seekers to sanctuary cities. Since they are here LEGALLY, that would equate to kidnapping or at minimum, human trafficking as defined by the UN.

Sue the Administration then--DO something instead of merely grousing about it-- for once.

 
 
 
Texan1211
7.1.35  Texan1211  replied to  Dulay @7.1.33    3 months ago

Please try to keep up or respond to someone else.

 
 
 
Dulay
7.1.36  Dulay  replied to  Texan1211 @7.1.34    3 months ago
Well, no shit, Sherlock. Who said they were? Are you attempting AGIAN to argue points no one makes? Intellectually dishonest way to attempt to debate. I ain't playing that shit today.

What's intellectually dishonest is trying to pretend that you and Trump are talking about transporting 'illegal aliens' to sanctuary cities. You aren't. 

I am not repsonsible for every thought that pops into your head.

I thought you were against arguing points no one makes. Guess not...

Own it yourself, no matter how wrong it is!

How is my statement wrong Tex? 

Sue the Administration then--DO something instead of merely grousing about it--

My support for the ACLU addresses that goal. 

for once.

I've been on the streets and politically active since 1968. I'll trade war stories with you any day. 

 
 
 
Dulay
7.1.37  Dulay  replied to  Texan1211 @7.1.35    3 months ago
Please try to keep up or respond to someone else.

Well let's see: 

I asked you a cogent question, you followed your MO by avoiding answering and instead made a snarky remark. 

That's were we are to date. 

How's that for keeping up? 

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
7.1.38  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  JohnRussell @7.1.3    3 months ago

MS13 is probably better equipped for that area.

 
 
 
Dulay
7.1.39  Dulay  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @7.1.38    3 months ago
MS13 is probably better equipped for that area.

So your posit is that Trump should round up MS13 members, kidnap them and move them to Chicago. You should call the WH with your groundbreaking proposal. Trump will love it.

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
7.1.40  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  Dulay @7.1.39    3 months ago

MS13 are in the caravans. No way to tell the good from the bad, the wide open border dilema... LoL nice try.

jrSmiley_97_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Greg Jones
7.1.41  Greg Jones  replied to  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו @7.1.22    3 months ago
You also seemed confused about what the term "sanctuary city" means

Well, what does it mean, smarty-pants?

 
 
 
XDm9mm
7.1.42  XDm9mm  replied to  Dulay @7.1.31    3 months ago
Since they are here LEGALLY, that would equate to kidnapping or at minimum, human trafficking as defined by the UN. 

So was it fine with you when it was done under Obama?

Obama's immigration plan: Go Greyhound?

Read about it here:  SOURCE:  https://www.azcentral.com/story/laurie-roberts/2014/05/29/immigrants-flown-to-arizona/9719377/

 
 
 
Dulay
7.1.43  Dulay  replied to  XDm9mm @7.1.42    3 months ago
So was it fine with you when it was done under Obama?

Thanks for the false equivalency, they always elevate the discussion. /s

 
 
 
Dulay
7.1.44  Dulay  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @7.1.40    3 months ago
MS13 are in the caravans. No way to tell the good from the bad, the wide open border dilema... LoL nice try.

More deflection and obfuscation.

The topic is Trump's sick proposal of shipping off 'immigrants' to sanctuary cities and you suggested singling out MS13 for transport to Chicago. How could you fantasy happen it they can't 'tell the good from the bad'? You seem to be throwing cold water on your own wet dream. 

BTFW, 'the open border dilemma' is moot for this topic since you've got to catch them to ship them. Despite your scenario, those who are caught ARE vetted. If they can't weed out MS13, they need better training. First year corrections intake officers manage it every day. 

 
 
 
XDm9mm
7.1.45  XDm9mm  replied to  Dulay @7.1.43    3 months ago
Thanks for the false equivalency, they always elevate the discussion. /s

Obviously, you have no rebuttal other than vain attempts at denigration.  Try again.

 
 
 
Tacos!
7.1.46  Tacos!  replied to  Dulay @7.1.33    3 months ago
How is FORCING an asylum seeker to travel 'free roam elsewhere'? 

You'd prefer we just let them wander in the desert?

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
7.1.47  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  Dulay @7.1.44    3 months ago

That's obtuse... 

You need a new routine. The only person you seem to convince is yourself.

We have no method of verification for  who these immigrants are or aren't.

Gang bangers are more equipped for gangland Chicago.

That was the obvious conclusion one could reach from my comment.

You decided to miss the only logical conclusion by a mile.

Show me where I suggested singelling out and shipping MS13 to Chicago?

I'll help you, I didn't. You made that entirely up on your own

jrSmiley_55_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Texan1211
7.1.48  Texan1211  replied to  Dulay @7.1.37    3 months ago
How is FORCING an asylum seeker to travel 'free roam elsewhere'?

I feel sorry that you think that was a cogent question.

How's that for keeping up

Piss-poor, actually.

 
 
 
Texan1211
7.1.49  Texan1211  replied to  Dulay @7.1.36    3 months ago
What's intellectually dishonest is trying to pretend that you and Trump are talking about transporting 'illegal aliens' to sanctuary cities. You aren't.

I am confident you'll tell me what you thought I said, and what I meant. Happens quite often with you.

I thought you were against arguing points no one makes. Guess not...

Perhaps one day you'll actually have a point. I look forward to it.

How is my statement wrong Tex?

Just your usual trick of attempting to tell others what they said or meant.

My support for the ACLU addresses that goal.

jrSmiley_81_smiley_image.gif

I've been on the streets and politically active since 1968. I'll trade war stories with you any day.

Good for you. Here's a little gold star for ya!

 
 
 
Texan1211
7.1.50  Texan1211  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @7.1.47    3 months ago

Don't you just love it when intellectually dishonest people tell you what you wrote, er, what they think you wrote or meant?

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
7.1.51  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  Texan1211 @7.1.49    3 months ago
I've been on the streets and politically active since 1968. I'll trade war stories with you any day.

That is almost as unconvincing as telling a Native American that you have an Native American friend to give your arguments credibility.

 
 
 
Dulay
7.1.52  Dulay  replied to  XDm9mm @7.1.45    3 months ago
Obviously, you have no rebuttal other than vain attempts at denigration.  Try again.

My rebuttal is that your comment is a false equivalency. Your own link PROVE that to be a fact. Perhaps you should actually READ it. 

 
 
 
Dulay
7.1.53  Dulay  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @7.1.47    3 months ago
We have no method of verification for who these immigrants are or aren't.

So you support Trump bussing immigrants to sanctuary cities that haven't even been vetted? You really have no clue about the asylum process. 

Gang bangers are more equipped for gangland Chicago.

I wish I could say that I'm surprised by the depravity that comment illustrates. 

That was the obvious conclusion one could reach from my comment.

Yes, I know MS13 is a gang BF and that you think it would appropriate to send them to Chicago. 

You decided to miss the only logical conclusion by a mile.

Nope. 

Show me where I suggested singelling out and shipping MS13 to Chicago?

That's obtuse... 

I'll help you, I didn't. You made that entirely up on your own

You did.

The topic is Trump shipping immigrants to sanctuary cities.

It's a known fact that John lives in Chicago.

You 'suggested' that MS13 'would be better equipped for that area'. 

 
 
 
Dulay
7.1.54  Dulay  replied to  Tacos! @7.1.46    3 months ago
You'd prefer we just let them wander in the desert?

Why are you asking me a question when you refuse to answer mine? 

 
 
 
Dulay
7.1.55  Dulay  replied to  Texan1211 @7.1.48    3 months ago
I feel sorry that you think that was a cogent question.

What part of it didn't you understand Tex? 

Piss-poor, actually.

How so? 

 
 
 
Dulay
7.1.56  Dulay  replied to  Texan1211 @7.1.49    3 months ago
I am confident you'll tell me what you thought I said, and what I meant. Happens quite often with you.

I am confident that deflecting rather than addressing the topic is a safe place for you. 

Perhaps one day you'll actually have a point. I look forward to it.

Since you'd have to be capable of recognizing a point, prepare for disappointment. 

Just your usual trick of attempting to tell others what they said or meant.

Asking you a question about your comment isn't a 'trick' Tex. It's how this shit works. 

 
 
 
Dulay
7.1.57  Dulay  replied to  Texan1211 @7.1.50    3 months ago
Don't you just love it when intellectually dishonest people tell you what you wrote, er, what they think you wrote or meant?

Not as much as I love it when someone lacking the gonads to address a member up front disses them through another member. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
7.1.58  Texan1211  replied to  Dulay @7.1.57    3 months ago
Not as much as I love it when someone lacking the gonads to address a member up front disses them through another member.

yeah, I hate that shit, too.

Which is why I directly responded to you in post 7.1.35, and I have specifically addressed your rather nasty little habit of attempting to put words ion others mouths and then trying to debate THAT.

 
 
 
Texan1211
7.1.59  Texan1211  replied to  Dulay @7.1.55    3 months ago
What part of it didn't you understand Tex?

I understood it all.

How so?

You supposed to be a smart cookie--I am sure you'll figure it out eventually.

 
 
 
Tacos!
7.1.60  Tacos!  replied to  Dulay @7.1.54    3 months ago
Why are you asking me a question when you refuse to answer mine? 

I don't see where you have asked me one. I have to assume that's because you haven't. A quick search of this seed confirms that. Did you just make this up because you can't/won't answer my question?

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
7.1.61  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו @7.1.8    3 months ago

They do that anyway...

 
 
 
Dulay
7.1.62  Dulay  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @7.1.51    3 months ago
That is almost as unconvincing as telling a Native American that you have an Native American friend to give your arguments credibility.

I'm sure it doesn't surprise you that I don't give a fuck whether you believe me. 

 
 
 
Dulay
7.1.63  Dulay  replied to  Tacos! @7.1.60    3 months ago
I don't see where you have asked me one.

I don't see where I said I DID ask YOU one. 

You DID however reply to a question, that you didn't answer, with a question. 

Did you just make this up because you can't/won't answer my question?

No, you did. 

 
 
 
Dulay
7.1.64  Dulay  replied to  Texan1211 @7.1.58    3 months ago
yeah, I hate that shit, too.

Then it's pretty hypocritical to do so yourself. 


Which is why I directly responded to you in post 7.1.35, and I have specifically addressed your rather nasty little habit of attempting to put words ion others mouths and then trying to debate THAT.

Wow, you said all of that with this comment? 

Please try to keep up or respond to someone else.

Hilarious. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
7.1.65  Texan1211  replied to  Dulay @7.1.64    3 months ago
Then it's pretty hypocritical to do so yourself.

That is unadulterated bullshit. I responded to you first when you tried to pull the same shit on me. Then I spoke to another poster about you doing the same intellectually dishonest bullshit with another poster. I have told you many times that I don't play that fucking game. If you want to debate--DO IT without resorting to attempting to put words in others mouths and then trying to debate what you wanted them to say.

Wow, you said all of that with this comment? 

Ooooh, I made a typo. It was the post prior to that one,

Doesn't change the fact that you did exactly what I accused you of, and all your little spin doesn't change what you fucking did.

Hilarious.

No, not hilarious. It is fucking pathetic.

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
7.1.66  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  Texan1211 @7.1.48    3 months ago

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Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
7.1.67  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @7.1.38    3 months ago
MS13 is probably better equipped for that area.

When Fish isn't birthing new lies he's reviving old ones. 

 
 
 
Dulay
7.1.68  Dulay  replied to  Texan1211 @7.1.65    3 months ago
If you want to debate--DO IT without resorting to attempting to put words in others mouths and then trying to debate what you wanted them to say.

That's pretty fucking funny Tex. I asked you a question and instead of answering it you've gone on a rant and try to pretend that asking you a question is somehow a 'trick'. 

My attempt at debate started in 7.1.33. I guess my question was too logical for you. 

Your failed attempt at obfuscation came immediately afterward. 

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
7.1.69  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Texan1211 @7.1.65    3 months ago

This comment is to both Tex and Dulay,

I have had multiple flags about this thread. I don't see any violations per se, but I do see a lot of snark. I would prefer not writing either of you up, so please get back to the discussion. 

 
 
 
Tacos!
7.2  Tacos!  replied to  JohnRussell @7    3 months ago
Trump himself said it is sick

He used it to refer to - and sort of quote - the leftists, like Bill de Blasio and Alyssa Milano among others who have been calling it "sick." This is a common rhetorical device. One takes the attack word and makes it his own to show he's not shamed even a little bit. So if people have been saying, "Who's sick idea was this?" he proudly responds "it was my sick idea" but you have to understand he doesn't really think it's sick at all.

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
7.2.1  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  Tacos! @7.2    3 months ago
He used it to refer to - and sort of quote - the leftists, like Bill de Blasio and Alyssa Milano among others who have been calling it "sick." This is a common rhetorical device.

The gambit of pretending Scumbag just "joking" every time he says something disgusting (ah, but I repeat myself) just aint workin'.  It never did and it never will. 

 
 
 
Tacos!
7.2.2  Tacos!  replied to  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו @7.2.1    3 months ago

Your position is devoid of logic unless you can explain why a person would pursue a policy he genuinely believed was "sick."

 
 
 
katrix
7.2.3  katrix  replied to  Tacos! @7.2.2    3 months ago

Because he did it to be vindictive.

 
 
 
Tacos!
7.2.4  Tacos!  replied to  katrix @7.2.3    3 months ago

Can you explain that? 

And even if true, so what? That still doesn't explain why people would object to those migrants being transported to cities that claimed they would welcome them.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
8  Jeremy Retired in NC    3 months ago

Oh please.  Democrats have been doing it long before Trump come on the scene.  

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
8.1  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @8    3 months ago

Where DO you come up with these fantasies, Jer?  Oh, wait.....we know.  Nevermind.  

 
 
 
XDm9mm
8.1.1  XDm9mm  replied to  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו @8.1    3 months ago
Where DO you come up with these fantasies, Jer?  Oh, wait.....we know.  Nevermind. 

HISTORY is where it comes from.

Obama's immigration plan: Go Greyhound?

https://www.azcentral.com/story/laurie-roberts/2014/05/29/immigrants-flown-to-arizona/9719377/

Any more questions or factually inaccurate statements?  Yeah, I didn't think so.

 
 
 
Dulay
8.1.2  Dulay  replied to  XDm9mm @8.1.1    3 months ago
Any more questions or factually inaccurate statements?  Yeah, I didn't think so.

Yet you posted your false equivalency twice. 

 
 
 
XDm9mm
8.1.3  XDm9mm  replied to  Dulay @8.1.2    3 months ago
Yet you posted your false equivalency twice. 

Still no rebuttal, but more typical Dulay word games.

I hate to break your bubble, but I don't play your games.

 
 
 
Dulay
8.1.4  Dulay  replied to  XDm9mm @8.1.3    3 months ago
Still no rebuttal, but more typical Dulay word games.

Again, my rebuttal is that your comment is a false equivalency. 

I hate to break your bubble, but I don't play your games.

If big words are the issue, dictionaries help.

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
8.1.5  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  XDm9mm @8.1.1    3 months ago

I'm not surprised you're confused  about the topic (or just trying to derail it) which would be a wholesale dumping of thousands (not 400) into cities selected for political punishment as a point of policy.  Completely unlike Scumbag himself uttering this policy threat, the article you cite had nothing to do with picking on Phoenix and Tucson for political reasons nor was not a policy decision made by Obama but poor judgment call by the local officials on the Texas border.  As far as it being "inhumanitarian" we see that parents and children were not separated which also stands in stark contrast to the actual still active crime scene of the policy (put in place by good ol' boy Sessions) to do just that and in what's now the trademark of the Scumbag administration to do it so incompetently and coldly that there's a strong likelihood that these children will never be reunited with their families.  That's called kidnapping and in this case, as it was done as government policy, qualifies as a crime against humanity.   

So, no.  I don't really have any more questions about factually inaccurate statements but I do wonder if you plan on quitting the use of them.  

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
8.1.6  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  XDm9mm @8.1.3    3 months ago
I hate to break your bubble, but I don't play your games.

No?  Or do you mean you pervert language and don't consider that a game but serious business? 

 
 
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