FBI chief: No evidence of illegal spying on Trump campaign

  
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FBI chief: No evidence of illegal spying on Trump campaign

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FBI chief: No evidence of illegal spying on Trump campaign



image001-png_162613.png.cf.jpg ERIC TUCKER and MICHAEL BALSAMO,Associated Press 18 hours ago 




















WASHINGTON (AP) — FBI Director Chris Wray said Tuesday that he does not consider court-approved FBI surveillance to be "spying" and said he has no evidence the FBI illegally monitored President Donald Trump's campaign during the 2016 election.










His comments at a Senate Appropriations subcommittee hearing broke from Attorney General William Barr, who has described as "spying" FBI surveillance during its investigation into potential collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia. Barr has not said such surveillance was necessarily improper, but Trump nonetheless seized on those comments to suggest his campaign was spied on in an illegal and unprecedented act.

Asked by Sen. Jeanne Shaheen, D-N.H., if he would say that the FBI is "spying" when it investigates suspected terrorists and mobsters while following "investigative policies and procedures," Wray replied, "Well, that's not the term I would use."

He added: "I believe that the FBI is engaged in investigative activity, and part of investigative activity includes surveillance activity of different shapes and sizes. And to me, the key question is making sure that it's done by the book, consistent with our lawful authorities. That's the key question. Different people use different colloquial phrases."

Wray declined to discuss in detail the FBI's investigation into the Trump campaign because of an ongoing Justice Department inspector general probe into the origins of the Russia inquiry. Barr has said he expects the watchdog report to be done in May or June.

But asked whether he was aware of evidence that the FBI had illegally spied on the Trump campaign, Wray said, "I don't think I personally have any evidence of that sort."

Barr is investigating whether there was a proper basis for the FBI to open a counterintelligence investigation into ties between the Trump campaign and Russia. The recently concluded investigation from special counsel Robert Mueller did not find a criminal conspiracy between the campaign and the Kremlin to tip the outcome of the 2016 presidential election.

"The attorney general is seeking to understand better the circumstances at the department and the FBI relating to how this investigation started, and we're working to help him get that understanding," Wray said about the Justice Department's review. "I think that's part of his job and part of mine."

Barr didn't specify what he meant when he said he believed there had been spying on the Trump campaign, though he also said that he did not mean the word in a negative way. At a hearing last week, he described "spying" as a "good English word" encompassing "all forms of covert intelligence operations" and said he wouldn't back away from using it.


The FBI obtained a secret surveillance warrant in the fall of 2016 to monitor the communications of former Trump campaign aide Carter Page, whose interactions with Russians several years earlier had raised law enforcement suspicions even before he joined the campaign.

The New York Times reported last week that the FBI sent a female government investigator posing as a research assistant to speak with ex-Trump campaign adviser George Papadopoulos, who was told by a Maltese professor in the spring of 2016 that Russia had "dirt" on Democrat Hillary Clinton in the form of stolen emails.

In his book about his entanglement in the Russia probe, "Deep State Target," Papadopoulos wrote that the woman, who identified herself as Azra Turk, asked him about his work with the Trump campaign.

"She wants to know: Are we working with Russia?" he wrote. He described her question as "creepy" and said he told her he had "nothing to do with Russia."

Papadopoulos later pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI about his interactions with the professor, Joseph Mifsud, and was sentenced to 14 days in prison.


















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Tessylo
1  seeder  Tessylo    2 weeks ago

His comments at a Senate Appropriations subcommittee hearing broke from Attorney General William Barr, who has described as "spying" FBI surveillance during its investigation into potential collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia. Barr has not said such surveillance was necessarily improper, but Trump nonetheless seized on those comments to suggest his campaign was spied on in an illegal and unprecedented act.

Asked by Sen. Jeanne Shaheen, D-N.H., if he would say that the FBI is "spying" when it investigates suspected terrorists and mobsters while following "investigative policies and procedures," Wray replied, "Well, that's not the term I would use."

He added: "I believe that the FBI is engaged in investigative activity, and part of investigative activity includes surveillance activity of different shapes and sizes. And to me, the key question is making sure that it's done by the book, consistent with our lawful authorities. That's the key question. Different people use different colloquial phrases."

Wray declined to discuss in detail the FBI's investigation into the Trump campaign because of an ongoing Justice Department inspector general probe into the origins of the Russia inquiry. Barr has said he expects the watchdog report to be done in May or June.

But asked whether he was aware of evidence that the FBI had illegally spied on the Trump campaign, Wray said, "I don't think I personally have any evidence of that sort."

 
 
 
Snuffy
1.1  Snuffy  replied to  Tessylo @1    2 weeks ago

and we will know more when the IG report comes out. Until then it's all useless speculation.

 
 
 
Dulay
1.1.1  Dulay  replied to  Snuffy @1.1    2 weeks ago
and we will know more when the IG report comes out. Until then it's all useless speculation.

Really? So the IG informed Wray about McCabe before he published his final report but he won't tell Wray about any other issues prior to the release of this report. What lead you to that conclusion? 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
1.2  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @1    2 weeks ago

Tess, you do recall that James Clapper said just the opposite:

"During a Tuesday appearance on the View, no less than the former Director of National Intelligence (DNI) James Clapper described what was done by the Obama administration to Donald’s Trump campaign as “spying.”

Although Clapper said he does not like the word “spying” (considering how the disclosure of this spying has blown up in the Obama administration’s face, who can blame him?), he still used the word twice — because there is no other word.

Sounding rattled and defensive, even though he was among friends, Clapper, a left-wing partisan who served as DNI during the Obama administration, attempted to spin the “spying” into something that was for Trump’s own good and the good of the country."

https://www.usapoliticstoday.org/james-clapper-spying-inside-trump/


Just sayin

 
 
 
Dulay
1.2.1  Dulay  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.2    2 weeks ago

What Clapper said from YOUR link:

“With the informant business, well, the point here is the Russians,” Clapper volunteered. “Not spying on the campaign but what are the Russians doing? And in a sense, unfortunately, what they were trying to do is protect our political system and protect the campaign.”

View co-host Joy Behar asked, “Trump … claims it’s spying. Other people say it’s a whistleblower or informant — he says it’s spying, it’s bigger than Watergate. So I ask you, was the FBI spying on Trump’s campaign?”

“No, they were not,” Clapper replied. “They were spying on, a term I don’t particularly like, but on what the Russians were doing. Trying to understand were the Russians infiltrating, trying to gain access, trying to gain leverage or influence which is what they do.”

Just sayin'. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
1.2.2  seeder  Tessylo  replied to  Dulay @1.2.1    2 weeks ago

Thanks for the truth of the matter, as usual, Dulay.  Don't people read their own links?

Just sayin

 
 
 
Ronin2
2  Ronin2    2 weeks ago
The FBI obtained a secret surveillance warrant in the fall of 2016 to monitor the communications of former Trump campaign aide Carter Page, whose interactions with Russians several years earlier had raised law enforcement suspicions even before he joined the campaign.

So why isn't Carter Page in prison yet? What the hell is taking them so long? Why wasn't Page questioned and charged by Mueller or Comey?  Common Dems, lock Carter Page up!  He is main reason behind the FISA warrants for spying on the Trump campaign.  Let's get this master spy/criminal behind bars for the public good!

I am sure Wray feels the FBI was justified because it had FISA warrants. What he doesn't answer is if the warrants were legal.  Another nothing burger by an career Establishment employee.

 
 
 
Tessylo
2.1  seeder  Tessylo  replied to  Ronin2 @2    2 weeks ago

Of course the warrants were legal.

Duh

 
 
 
Ronin2
2.1.1  Ronin2  replied to  Tessylo @2.1    2 weeks ago

Really, so why is Carter Page still on the streets? He was the reason for the FISA warrants.  Yet no questioning, no charges, and none coming. Nice they ruined someone's life to get at Trump.  

Nice of the left not to care, and not want it reviewed.  I don't give a shit about Trump; but illegal is illegal.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
2.1.2  Greg Jones  replied to  Tessylo @2.1    2 weeks ago
Of course the warrants were legal.

Perhaps, but they were obtained under false pretenses.

 
 
 
Tessylo
2.1.3  seeder  Tessylo  replied to  Greg Jones @2.1.2    2 weeks ago

'Perhaps, but they were obtained under false pretenses.'

No, they weren't.  

 
 
 
Dulay
2.1.4  Dulay  replied to  Ronin2 @2.1.1    2 weeks ago
Really, so why is Carter Page still on the streets?

Because the investigation cleared him.

He was the reason for the FISA warrants.  Yet no questioning, no charges, and none coming.

Wow, that illustrates a galactic lack of knowledge. 

If Page's interaction with the Russians was the reason for the FISA warrant.

Page WAS questioned by the FBI BEFORE Mueller was appointed.

There were no charges because they found that Page was NOT an agent of a foreign power. 

BTFW, the PURPOSE of FISA warrants is to gather FOREIGN INTELLIGENCE. DUH. 

Unless and until you can prove that there is evidence that the majority of FISA warrants result in prosecution, your question is moot. 

Nice they ruined someone's life to get at Trump.  

How was Page's life ruined. He still has his business, his passport and tweets his ass off ad nauseam. 

Nice of the left not to care, and not want it reviewed. 

It HAS been reviewed by MULTIPLE FISA Judges and IS being reviewed by the DOJ IG. 

I don't give a shit about Trump; but illegal is illegal.

Then you should educate yourself on the law so that you can comment intelligently about it. 

 
 
 
FLYNAVY1
2.2  FLYNAVY1  replied to  Ronin2 @2    2 weeks ago

The warrants were authorized by a court of law after clearing from what I understand are significant hurdles for consideration.  What would not make them legal?  Furthermore, what evidence do you have that Carter Page deserves to be in prison?  

 
 
 
livefreeordie
2.2.1  livefreeordie  replied to  FLYNAVY1 @2.2    2 weeks ago

Nonsense. Th IG is investigating what is obviously.

the Obama Admin used the deep state to present false documentation to the FISA court in a conspiracy against an opposition party 

thats why from Obama’s on down they stated emphatically that Trump would not be president. FBI traitor Strozk assured his lover that with the assistance of another FBI traitor, McCabe they had a plan in place to take Trump down

this is fac, not speculation and this conspiracy needs to be fully exposed and Obama and his fellow conspirators put in prison

Clapper now admits they SPIED on Trump

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2019/05/08/former-obama-spy-czar-yeah-what-happened-to-the-trump-campaign-fits-definition-ofspying-n2546019

 
 
 
Tessylo
2.2.2  seeder  Tessylo  replied to  livefreeordie @2.2.1    2 weeks ago

Townhall?

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katrix
2.2.3  katrix  replied to  FLYNAVY1 @2.2    2 weeks ago

Conspiracy theorists are never swayed by facts.

 
 
 
livefreeordie
2.2.4  livefreeordie  replied to  katrix @2.2.3    2 weeks ago

Facts are like kryptonite to the left. Any rational observation of the facts points to exactly what I stated

 
 
 
Ozzwald
2.2.5  Ozzwald  replied to  livefreeordie @2.2.4    2 weeks ago

Facts are like kryptonite to the left. Any rational observation of the facts points to exactly what I stated

Well then thank God a rightie wouldn't recognize a fact if it bit them in the nether regions.

 
 
 
FLYNAVY1
2.2.6  FLYNAVY1  replied to  livefreeordie @2.2.4    2 weeks ago

Considering we on the left are still here, you've obviously not provided any kryptonite (AKA.... "Facts").

BTW..... You didn't happen to see those guys on the Grassy Knowles did you? 

 
 
 
Ronin2
2.2.7  Ronin2  replied to  FLYNAVY1 @2.2    2 weeks ago

You don't understand sarcasm? Did my post really need a damn /S tag behind it?

Carter Page is the main reason given for the FISA warrants. If they had such damning evidence against him to get a warrant, why was he never questioned or charged?  He should have been the first one indicted. Instead he was never even questioned.

They need to review all the FISA warrants, and if the evidence isn't there against Page, then the judge needs to be removed- and all those involved in the request indicted. 

 
 
 
Greg Jones
2.2.8  Greg Jones  replied to  katrix @2.2.3    2 weeks ago
Conspiracy theorists are never swayed by facts.

Very true, and a brilliant observation. Many of them cannot accept the Mueller Report and the fact that Trump and associates never colluded with Russia, or obstructed justice.

 
 
 
FLYNAVY1
2.2.9  FLYNAVY1  replied to  Ronin2 @2.2.7    2 weeks ago

No... I saw the attempt at sarcasm.  What was also made clear is you seem to think that FISA warrants are handed out like candy, and that you are more than happy to disregard the efforts of our security offices go to try to keep our country safe.

 
 
 
Ronin2
2.2.10  Ronin2  replied to  FLYNAVY1 @2.2.9    2 weeks ago

Then answer the question, why hasn't Carter Page been indicted? They had all of this "evidence" against him to get FISA warrants to monitor anyone he was associated with. They used him again, again to extend these warrants; but nothing- not even questioned by Comey or Mueller.

How can the FISA warrants be legal when Carter Page is a free man?

 
 
 
Tessylo
2.2.11  seeder  Tessylo  replied to  Ronin2 @2.2.10    2 weeks ago

How cute.  Demanding answers.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
2.2.12  seeder  Tessylo  replied to  livefreeordie @2.2.1    2 weeks ago

I cannot believe I didn't respond to your deep state nonsense.

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Tessylo
2.2.13  seeder  Tessylo  replied to  FLYNAVY1 @2.2.6    2 weeks ago
'on the Grassy Knowles'

Wasn't that one of the porn stars that Rump shtupped and/or the name of one of the movies that she starred in?

Or is she an unknown sister to Beyonce?

 
 
 
Nerm_L
3  Nerm_L    2 weeks ago

Lying to a FISA court is not legal.

 
 
 
FLYNAVY1
3.1  FLYNAVY1  replied to  Nerm_L @3    2 weeks ago

Who lied to the FISA court?

 
 
 
Nerm_L
3.1.1  Nerm_L  replied to  FLYNAVY1 @3.1    2 weeks ago
Who lied to the FISA court?

Who didn't lie to a FISA court?  How can the public determine who did and who didn't lie to a FISA court?

 
 
 
livefreeordie
3.1.2  livefreeordie  replied to  FLYNAVY1 @3.1    2 weeks ago

The Obama Administration who knew they were presenting false documents

 
 
 
FLYNAVY1
3.1.3  FLYNAVY1  replied to  livefreeordie @3.1.2    2 weeks ago

You shall not spread a false report. You shall not join hands with a wicked man to be a malicious witness. You shall not fall in with the many to do evil, nor shall you bear witness in a lawsuit, siding with the many, so as to pervert justice, nor shall you be partial to a poor man in his lawsuit.

— Exodus 23:1-3
Looks like you could be smoking a turd in purgatory for that one there rev......
 
 
 
livefreeordie
3.1.4  livefreeordie  replied to  FLYNAVY1 @3.1.3    2 weeks ago

It’s been thoroughly validated that they presented false documents to the FISA Court.

like most leftists the truth is inconvenient to yourhatred of Trump and Conservatives 

 
 
 
FLYNAVY1
3.1.5  FLYNAVY1  replied to  livefreeordie @3.1.4    2 weeks ago

Validated by whom?  Got names? Got organizations?

For once in your life can you produce or even tell the truth in support of your statements?

 
 
 
Dulay
3.1.6  Dulay  replied to  livefreeordie @3.1.4    2 weeks ago
It’s been thoroughly validated that they presented false documents to the FISA Court.

It has?

So where is the indictments for Comey, Rosenstein, Yates, Beonte and the Special Agent/s who swore to the veracity of the evidence?

WTF is Barr waiting for?

 
 
 
luther28
4  luther28    2 weeks ago

FBI chief: No evidence of illegal spying on Trump campaign

Which any realist already knew.

 
 
 
katrix
4.1  katrix  replied to  luther28 @4    2 weeks ago

And which no conspiracy theorist will ever accept.

 
 
 
luther28
4.1.1  luther28  replied to  katrix @4.1    2 weeks ago

The DEEP STATE will cover it up :)

 
 
 
Tessylo
4.1.2  seeder  Tessylo  replied to  luther28 @4.1.1    2 weeks ago

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livefreeordie
4.2  livefreeordie  replied to  luther28 @4    2 weeks ago

Any realist knows the deep state are enemies of the people. The left use to also believe this until Trump became president

 
 
 
Tessylo
4.2.1  seeder  Tessylo  replied to  livefreeordie @4.2    2 weeks ago

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Kavika
4.2.2  Kavika   replied to  livefreeordie @4.2    2 weeks ago

And here they are, the hierarchy of the Deep State....

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luther28
4.2.3  luther28  replied to  livefreeordie @4.2    2 weeks ago

The deep state exists only in the dreams of some folks.

 
 
 
r.t..b...
4.2.4  r.t..b...  replied to  luther28 @4.2.3    2 weeks ago
The deep state exists only in the dreams of some folks.

The deep state is the bogeyman...imagined, impotent, and an excuse to spread fear. Conversely...

"It is not when truth is dirty, but when it is shallow, that the lover of knowledge is reluctant to step into its waters."          ~ Friedrich Nietzsche  

 
 
 
Greg Jones
4.3  Greg Jones  replied to  luther28 @4    2 weeks ago

Which any realist already knew.

The asshole is lying, working the cover up for all he can.

The evidence will appear as the investigations continue into summer.

 
 
 
luther28
4.3.1  luther28  replied to  Greg Jones @4.3    2 weeks ago
The asshole is lying, working the cover up for all he can.

Now are you referring to Mr. Trump or Mr. Wray?

If it be Mr. Trump then we agree, if it be Mr. Wray then it would mean that Mr. Trump appoints assholes making Mr. Trump twice the asshole as you say.

 
 
 
Tacos!
5  Tacos!    2 weeks ago

There is a lot of dancing around the word "spying" as if it were different somehow than secret surveillance. It's not. It is what it is. What matters is whether or not the spying was improper at some level. Arguing about the meaning of the word "spying" is a distraction.

 
 
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