Trump to Democrats: No deals on infrastructure, drug prices until they drop investigations
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Trump to Democrats: No deals on infrastructure, drug prices until they drop investigations
Michael Collins, John Fritze and Eliza Collins, USA TODAY 24 minutes ago WASHINGTON – President Donald Trump informed Democratic leaders Wednesday that he wouldn't work with them on shared priorities such as infrastructure and bringing down the cost of prescription drugs unless they abandon investigations into his presidency.
In an unusual and unexpected appearance in the Rose Garden, Trump said he told House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer at a White House meeting that it would be impossible to go forward with discussions while "phony" congressional investigations were hanging over his administration.
Trump spoke specifically about infrastructure, but it was difficult to see how the White House could move forward to work with the Democratic-controlled House on any number of other issues, including prescription drugs or a pending trade agreement with Mexico and Canada that the president wants approved.
"You probably can’t go down two tracks," he said, just after wrapping up a meeting with the two Democratic leaders at the White House. "You can go down the investigation track or you can go down the investment track."
Trump said he walked into the meeting with Pelosi, Schumer and other Democrats and told them, "I want to do infrastructure. But you know what, you can’t do it under these circumstances."
Trump spent about three minutes talking to the Democratic leaders who gathered in the Cabinet Room to discuss infrastructure, repeating many of the same points he later made in Rose Garden, according to a source familiar with the meeting who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss details of the closed-door session. The president did not shake hands with the lawmakers or sit down and he left before any of the Democrats spoke, the source said.
A White House spokesman did not respond to questions about that account of the meeting.
The stagecraft surrounding the president's statement was unusual. Reporters were rushed into the Rose Garden, where a single lectern had been set up in front of the Oval Office. It was not clear how far in advance Trump had planned the move, but the president said he was angry that, hours earlier, Pelosi accused Trump of engaging in a "cover up."
Trump aides placed a sign on the podium that included a favorite talking point: "no collusion," referring to special counsel Robert Mueller's probe of Russian interference in the U.S. election. The president took two questions and then walked back into the West Wing.
Pelosi meets with Dems: Speaker tries to rein in calls for a Trump impeachment as Democrat outrage grows
Back on Capitol Hill, Pelosi said she was disappointed Trump was backing out of talks.
“For some reason, maybe it was a lack of confidence on his part, but he couldn’t come back for the greatness of the challenge we have,” Pelosi said. “I pray for the president of the United States, and I pray for the United States of America.”
Trump and the Democrats had been set to discuss a plan to rebuild the nation's infrastructure. The meeting came just three weeks after Trump and Democrats, in an unusual moment of bipartisanship, agreed to spend $2 trillion on the nation’s crumbling highways, bridges and airports. Still missing, however, was a plan to pay for that investment .
Hours before Pelosi and Schumer were expected at the White House, Trump took to Twitter and accused congressional Democrats of being so focused on investigating him they weren't getting other things done.
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So now it's blackmail you turd?
Nope. Just the same kind of horse trading that politicians have engaged in since time immemorial. It's usually done behind closed doors by both parties. Only difference here is this time it's in the open.
Really? Then please do list all the times a President has refuse to sign any legislation till congress stops investigating him. Political horse trading is when the two sides compromise on policy, giving the other side something they want so you get what you want in a bill as well. What's going on now is straight up extortion.
Extortion: noun - the practice of obtaining something, especially money, through force or threats.
Donald Trump is threatening to clog up the legislative process until the legislators drop their investigations. Textbook extortion.
Clinton managed to still work while under investigation and being impeached. Nixon did as well. I guess Mr. "best at everything" is actually just a bumbling failure. The real reason he cancelled that meeting is because he is a shitty deal maker and had absolutely no clue about how he would fund the infrastructure work.
While impeachment proceedings were underway for both Nixon and Clinton, both of those presidents were still doing their jobs and signing legislation. It hasn't even started yet and Shitbag has decided to go on strike. I don't know how you do it, "Doc," but you manage to be completely wrong 100% of the time. Even if you just based your commenting on a coin flip you'd do better. Of course, it'll be hard to tell that Shitbag is doing any less than before since he's pretty much been a no-show for his entire miserably presidency.
This is interesting.
Trump is clearly saying that he will not do stuff everyone agrees is necessary... unless he is given immunity for all the crap we very much suspect he has done...
"I won't be a decent human being, unless you agree to ignore the fact that I most definitely have not been a decent human being..."
And the Unthinking Faithful TM nod beatifically...
Trump simply told Pelosi the pig and Schumer the snake to go pound sand.
Or to put it more bluntly, they can go fuck themselves, until they decide to grow up and start acting like adults
Cover up what, for heavens sake? Pelosi speaks like a malfunctioning robot, or a puppet with some broken strings.
The Democrats are hopelessly divided and have no idea of what to do.
If anyone really thinks the Democrats are winning the day with all this "oversight" nonsense, then they are not thinking clearly, or not thinking at all.
Trump threw a tantrum and put himself before the country. Trump has the maturity of a 5 year old.
Well judging from the first sentence in your comment they'll need to look elsewhere for an example of how to do so.
BTFW, you seem to think that Trump taking his ball and going home will have some kind of adverse effect on the Minority Leader of the Senate and the Speaker of the House. What lead you to that unfounded conclusion?
Right, it's not like the Democrats in the House are voting unanimously or anything...Oh, wait...
So far they are 2 for 2 in the courts.
Pelosi triggers Trump with every word that she says...LOL...
Trump also gets triggered by dead men. (McCain)
Infrastructure and drug prices? Sounds like Trump told the American people they can go fuck themselves.
If there is no cover up why is he blocking all the LEGAL subpoenas?
Don't know what gave you that idea, they all agree that they need to see Mueller's report, not Barr's take on Mueller's report.
So now you are calling the Constitution nonsense? The Constitution outlines their oversight job over the Executive branch.
Trump's fans have bought his lies completely - and clearly they, like their orange emperor, are sadly lacking in education about civics.
I think you could have stopped at, "are sadly lacking in education". You need not go any further.
LMAO......They have no legislative record going into a doomed election! All they have are Obama judges doing their dirty work!
The reason they get nothing from the President is that they are too vile to know that you don't condemn the President of the United States as "being engaged in a cover up" at 9AM and then trot off to a meeting with him at 11AM to discuss working on bipartisan legislation. Nope, It won't work that way!
No mention of that from USA Today, is there?
As much as Trump loves to insult other people, he's too thin-skinned to handle any criticism himself. It's pretty likely that he had no infrastructure plan or any clue how to get funding, so he pulled this stunt to use as an excuse.
He is covering up, trying to keep Congress from performing their duties of oversight. Just because he's a snowflake doesn't mean he doesn't get called out when he pulls crap like this. No reason for Pelosi to tiptoe around him - he's not an emperor or a king. He works for us ... at least he's supposed to.
Presidents do not have temper tantrums live on national television - it don't work that way! Except when you have a toddler in the White House.
Criticism?
A false accusation equates to criticism?
More ridicule on a daily basis than any bullied kid in middle school would ever face equates to criticism?
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The 'president' is the bully and he is blackmailing this country.
What false accusation?
It's obvious he has no infrastructure or health plan.
If he has nothing to hide - why the cover up?
The one I cited
It's obvious he has no infrastructure or health plan.
There won't be one
If he has nothing to hide - why the cover up?
We just had a two and a half year $25 million investigation. Not good enough?
No false accusation.
Why won't there be an infrastructure plan or health plan?
Because he obviously has nothing
Manafort's seized assets paid for it, so we're good!
Oh, that's far too generous a development age for Shitbag.
I love this quote from Nancy after Shitbag threw his tantrum:
A true bargain considering taxpayers have already spent $100M for him to cheat at golf.
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Again, WHAT FALSE ACCUSATION(S)?
Similar to those false accusations that launched the 2 year Mueller Russian Hoax.
Do you need such accolades in order to convince yourself?
We can all see that you haven't answered yet, Vic. The emojis aren't cutting it.
Accusing someone of making a false accusation when they haven't is a false accusation, in itself. The instances cited in the Mueller report as "obstruction of justice" were all about cover ups. You can't go telling us that the Mueller investigation ensures there was no cover up in your comment 1.2.11 while ignoring that the Mueller investigation cites instances of Trump attempting a cover-up.
Saying that progressives need to act like human beings, implying that they don't, is a false accusation.
Pretty rich, you complaining about false accusations.
'Similar to those false accusations that launched the 2 year Mueller Russian Hoax.'
'I love this quote from Nancy after Shitbag threw his tantrum:
“I couldn’t have been more calm,” Trump concluded. In the course of the function Trump had uttered the word “calm” in a preternaturally calm voice to America’s bemused farmers and ranchers no fewer than nine times.
Until this point in their fractious relationship, the US president has remained, by his standards, relatively respectful of Pelosi, sparing her the “Lyin’ Ted”and “Crooked Hillary” jibes he has inflicted on hundreds of his perceived adversaries. But as a further indication of the effectiveness of the Pelosi taunt, he let rip on her on Thursday.
“She’s a mess … she’s disintegrating,” he said. “I’ve been watching her for a long time. She’s not the same person. She’s lost it.”
Then he called her “Crazy Nancy” before immediately regretting it. “I don’t want to say ‘Crazy Nancy’ because if I say that you’re going to say it’s a copy of ‘Crazy Bernie’ and that’s no good.”
These past four years America and the world has got used to Trump forcibly having the last word. Not any more.
By end of play Thursday, Pelosi had logged on to Twitter – the social media platform of which Trump was supposed to be “master” – and scratched her nails under his skin one more time. “When the ‘extremely stable genius’ starts acting more presidential, I’ll be happy to work with him on infrastructure, trade and other issues,” she wrote.
You do realize that Trump grew up as a bully? That's why his folks sent him to military school in the first place for some discipline. Obviously it didn't take. He is still an asshole bully.
until they decide to grow up and start acting like adults
Oh like the 2 yo in charge acts like an adult. TITTH!
You obviously have no fucking clue about what is being passed in the House of Representatives. Just yesterday they tried to pass the Senate disaster aid bill through unanimous consent. A REPUBLICAN blocked it.
The VAWA is sitting on Mitch's desk along with about 100 other bills passed the House since Trump finally opened the government after his temper tantrum.
Trump has been nailed in courts all over the country and some of the Judges were appointed by him.
In short, Trump got his feelers hurt so he pouted and took his ball home.
The guy that spends hours on Twitter spewing bullshit about the Democrats and even some in his own party can't take a poke much less a punch.
The GOP gave shit to Obama face to face in meetings and he addressed it and moved on. Hell, they called him a liar during a State of the Union address. Though obviously pissed off, Obama moved on, didn't 'respond in kind' and the Democrats didn't take action against Wilson in the House.
In short, Obama and Pelosi adulted.
Trump needs to go buy a pair of big boy pants and put them on...
I really don't give a shit why Trump 'responded in kind'. THAT he 'responds in kind' merely proves that he's emotionally unequipped for the office.
That's because they can't fight back or defend themselves against his lies and/or personal prejudice.
A real HE MAN Trump is. I bet his bone spurs salute him every day.
That dosen't cut it. You pass bills when you are willing to negotiate. It's gonna be a hard but brief term for the dem majority in the House!
Are you a New Yorker? Trump grew up in Queens where many guys work hard at trying to measure up to the guys from Brooklyn & the Bronx. I say Trump is just what the country needed - someone who finally, at long last, stands up to the scum on the left
Did you miss the part where the Senate ALREADY passed the bill Vic? The Senate is the one that has to negotiate. The House can and WILL pass the bill and they don't need one GOP Congressman to do it.
The POINT is that the House IS passing legislation and a House Republican is obstructing a NEGOTIATED bill.
Is that what your Magic 8 ball told you?
I'm way ahead of you as usual. The Senate AND the President were ready to go on it, but just like those Obama Federal judges, it only takes 1 man to bring things down to a crawl. Get used to it.
WTF, Trump wasn't in 'West Side Story' Vic. Trump was a disgusting rich kid who lived in Jamaica Estates and went to private school until the shipped his ass off to a military boarding school outside of NYC.
Ya, Trump stands up by lying and name calling and pouting and whining and getting his sycophants to tell the press just how calm he is.
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Ya, Ya, and Obama was a radical who wanted to transform America.
How's it taste?
Delusional.
So you whine about Democrats not passing legislation and when it's shown that they are you cheer a Republican that is obstructing legislation just for the sake of obstruction.
Well done Vic.
It has no taste but it reads like more delusion.
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Donald Trump was a trust find baby who has never worked a real job and yet has always lost money, even as a con-artist.
Who are these leftist scum?
Vic...(And I hope you and yours are well), trump said that he would repeal and replace the ACA, "on day one". I doubt anyone within reason was going to hold him to that, Dem or Repub). But...He said that he had a healthcare plan, "a wonderful healthcare plan for all", that he was going to implement in the place of the ACA.. Lets be honest here...
Was there a plan?
No.
Was there a plan in development?
No.
The entire, "I will present a wonderful healthcare plan for all" thing? Was a 100% lie. I mean, at this point, not even Sarah Sanders could spin it.
We can both dance on the head of a pin and argue the minutia...but at the end of the day, Vic, there was no plan. It was a flat out lie.
True?
I may not always agree with Vic, even on NV, but his views are solid and I respect them. Vic is a good person and even if I don't agree with him, he isn't usually given to being rude or hateful.
This goes to ALL posters....Give the guy a break...be patient and not be adversarial. Seriously.
Vic has some great views, even if you don't agree...no reason to attack him....
[Puts soap box away]
Good question. I would have felt better about it if John McCain had done what he promised long before Trump became a candidate. I don't think we will hear anymore about that unless the GOP can one day find itself in the position of controlling both houses of congress with a super majority in the Senate. Even if that happens with Trump as President, I would expect that Trump's first priority would be immigration.
What about the Republicans? They argued repeal and replace longer and louder than Trump ever did. Wasn't it Ryan who convinced Trump to tackle Health Care first so that the tax cut could be paid for? Where was their plan?
With the exception of Mitt Romney, none had given it any thought.
I appreciate the sentiment, my friend. I think I can handle the attackers without much problem.
His stance is an admission that he is very guilty.
I WON'T DO ANYTHING UNTIL YOU STOP WITH THESE INVESTIGATIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What is it that you were doing in the first place?
Gee, nothing to hide turd?
Can you imagine how Republicans would have reacted if Obama had done this? If after 7 Benghazi investigations he had threatened to shut down the legislative process if Republicans didn't stop investigating it? I don't think it's at all hyperbolic to say religious conservative Republicans would have l o s t t h e i r m i n d s. They would have been demanding impeachment from just this one act.
So... He's being investigated for obstruction of justice and his response is to threaten the American people with no infrastructure improvements and high drug prices if the investigation continues? Isn't that the very definition of obstruction of justice?
Not in the gop/republican/'president' s supporters/Bizarro world.
He's just added blackmail to his list of crimes. What a dealmaker!!!!
Blackmail?
LMFAO!
I think you're mistaking extortion for blackmail.
Blackmail: noun - the action, treated as a criminal offense, of demanding payment or another benefit from someone in return for not revealing compromising or damaging information about them.
Extortion: noun - the practice of obtaining something, especially money, through force or threats.
Trump is threatening to shut down the legislative process until he gets something of value from Democrats, namely their abandonment of their oversight responsibilities by dropping any investigation into his administration.
You are correct! I made the same mistake. Extortion is the correct word.
Typical for the American Crime Family.
Why should he?
Besides the House has already proven they are in capable of multitasking. They have their get Trump at all costs agenda and investigations to take care of; and passing bills that only the hardest of leftists will support, with no chance of passing the Senate or signed by the POTUS, to keep them busy.
Don't like it when a POTUS refuses to work with Congress? Where the hell was the left for the last 6 years of the Obama administration? Of course then it was those damn Republican obstructionists in Congress; instead of Obama refusing to work with them.
No Rump is the one who can't multi-task.
'Hours before Pelosi and Schumer were expected at the White House, Trump took to Twitter and accused congressional Democrats of being so focused on investigating him they weren't getting other things done.'
What exactly is the turd getting done?
'instead of Obama refusing to work with them.'
Actually, they just proved that they are multitasking.
The House Appropriations sub-committee just released a Transportation and Housing funding bill.
Looks like they're walking and chewing gum at the same time...
Seems you missed this part of my statement.
Will either get passed the Senate? Will either make it to Trump's desk and be signed?
How many bills the Republican House pass that were deemed non starters by the Harry Reid Senate. Any moron can write a bill; it takes far more to get it passed.
So you want to claim that the House can't multitask and then blame them for the actions of the Senate and Trump. Got ya....
I don't know, how many times did the GOP vote to repeal Obamacare knowing that it wouldn't pass the Senate or be signed by Obama?
Because the country comes before trumps cover ups and childish behavior? Just sayin'
An infrastructure bill and lowering of drug prices would benefit all citizens no matter their political bent.
Seems that Trump doesn't care....What's new.
Toddlers have temper tantrums; it's just what they do. Trump has never acted like an adult and he's not about to start now.
He's also made it very clear that he doesn't give a crap about anyone who doesn't think he's great. Actually, he doesn't give a crap about those who DO think he's great, but most of them are apparently too stupid to realize it.
So....Trump puts his own ego before taking care of the country, got it, good talk. What a childish POS.
Hell, the Trump got off easy again.
Pelosi, instead of mentioning 'cover up' should have said, "I'm going to ask him to show us his health care plan." That would have put the Trump in the barrel.
While I'm not applauding Pelosi's use of "cover up", seeing this POTUS decry he doesn't cover up was truly a moment for the history books or perhaps case study for delusional behavior!
Totally fed up with 'poor me' Donald Trump. He'll fold like a paper doll when he needs to raise the debt ceiling. Our President, the deal maker who has the best words, the man who said we'd be sick of winning; gets his feelings hurt and throws his toys out of the pram. His leadership skill set wouldn't land him playground duty.
Nixon handled two tracks, so did Clinton...through investigations, impeachment hearings, media chomping at their heels yet both able to pass legislation with a House controlled by the other party.
I'm fine with her use of the term "cover up". It brought out the true Trump for all to see. He's holding bills that could help all Americans hostage.
This is potentially the excellent news I had hoped for at the midterms.
I see gridlock as really just another way of saying "checks and balances".
Historically, gridlock is very, very good for this country. The less active Washington is, the more prosperous we become.
Your support of what we see unfolding in our government is stunning. When gridlock is preferred over compromise, it serves to embolden political party over American people.
Midterms be damned, government needs to be operating on behalf of the entire country DAILY.
Why? I really hope you don't find pragmatism "stunning".
You're talking about "feelings". I'm talking about actual measurable reality. We've had several periods of advanced gridlock in recent history. Every one of those periods has corresponded with economic growth.
How? By pandering to batshit extremists, whose ignorance directly correlates with their certainty that they know "what we need to do"?
Ever notice how the most vocal opponents of Common Core Math never actually made it as far as Calculus? Yet they're "experts" on how math should be taught. Ever notice how the most vocal advocates for the poor have never actually been poor and don't actually know any poor people? Ever notice how the people most ardently defending or criticizing the Affordable Care Act don't actually understand it?
We've seen congresspeople who don't know how the unemployment rate is calculated attempting to dictate economic policy. We've seen congresspeople attempting to exert oversite over a military base who were concerned the influx of troops and equipment might capsize the island upon which it sits. (true story...and WTF???)
The vast majority of things they attempt to pass are simply fodder for their next campaign and serve only to complicate the lives of Americans rather than improve them.
WTF indeed!
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Believe my statement regarding gridlock vs compromise spells out my 'stunning' POV. Your pragmatism or mine wasn't part of our written response to the article.
Your "ever notice" litany certainly elicits a YES from me. Perhaps that why I'm fed up with the party bullshit that runs this country and the American people being so tethered by ideology they won't think or seek knowledge for themselves. In each instance, the American people drink the koolaid of their party affiliation. It's what disgusts me as I'm one who sought to understand common core, has been poor, and has read the ACA. No different today, when I ask "Did you read the Mueller report?". Overwhelming the answer "no".
How does anyone have a conversation when cable news, entertainment, is the classroom for so many?
Awwww. Bless your heart.
I guess you don't remember either the Clinton or Obama presidencies.
Clinton was blessed with gridlock that helped generate 4% GDP growth for the latter 3/4 of his presidency. During that time the unemployment rate fell from 5.6% to 3.9%.
During the "obstruction" period of the Obama years, unemployment plummeted from 8.4% to 4.7%. Joe Biden is already arguing on the campaign trail that Donald Trump inherited a strong economy, which is certainly true.
I realize it may very well have caused your head to explode that I have used two Democratic presidencies as positive examples. I should have warned you in advance to sit down and have a bucket ready. But do feel free to explain to everyone how the Obama and Clinton presidencies were such economic disasters.
Nope, they are the two Presidents that served with the highest level of gridlock and had good economies despite it. Imagine how much better it would have been if the GOP had worked with them for the good of the country.
You should have stopped the sentence here. This is a defensible position.
Because of it.
Silly and predictable partisanship from someone who would never admit in 100 million years that any member of the GOP could ever know what was "good for the country".
I know, right?
Exactly. Surely you do not want this "party bullshit" producing legislation with potentially long-lasting effects on our country.
Agreed. My point is simply that any scenario that keeps Kool-Aid salesmen from actually passing laws is a plus for America.
I was a certified math teacher. Common core math methodology was simply a best practices movement that had been proven effective over decades of use. So naturally we threw it out because people who think trigonometry is an advanced concept were hysterical that they could no longer "help" their kids screw up math homework.
Or when "media bias" simply means "media that fails to confirm my bias".
The idiocracy is upon us, and most of the people we elect are simply feeding on it. The more things that stand between them and enacting any of this lunacy, the better.
Personally, I think if we sent them all on a "global golf getaway" and didn't let them back in the country until every one of them was a 7 handicap or less, it would be cheaper and less damaging than what they're currently doing.
You construct your posts, I'll construct mine.
I disagree.
Gee, if it's so fucking silly, then why did the GOP make 180 degree turns from those 'wonderful' gridlocked economies?
BTFW, I have lived in a red state for almost 30 years, Richard Lugar was my Senator and acted for the 'good of the country' and for me as his constituent.
So your posit is that no law needs repeal or amendment and no further legislation needs to be passed?
To satisfy the people who drink RW Kool-Aid so they don't get primaried as a "RINO".
Because primaries tend to be decided by extremist nutjobs on either side. That's how people like Trump or AOC get elected.
Lloyd Bentsen did the same here in Texas. But those people are fewer and farther between than they've ever been. We live in the Twitter society, where nobody can be bothered to pay attention for more than 140 characters. The Idiocracy is upon us.
No. Just that exceedingly few of those things are actually necessary or actually helpful.
Those that ARE actually necessary or helpful tend to be uncontroversial and agreed upon bipartisanly.
Sometimes I believe we would all be better off if Congress only met for about 3-4 months every year. Reduce their salaries and perks accordingly. With that limited time, maybe some sane people would come forward and actually accomplish something useful and beneficial.
And then limit campaign times to just 3 months.
The ones that win are serving and spiking the Kool-Aid and it looks like you acknowledge that they've lost their compass...
I disagree. I think that some of the members here prove that their are quite a few people that enjoy going far beyond 140 characters.
Yet the Mitch is still sitting on the VAWA.
Yes and yes.
It's the same on the left, BTW.
You know this how?
I am going to go out on a limb here and say it is because he has eyes and ears and keeps up with the news.
The same way you know it about those on the right.
Except I actually do the math.
Didn't ask for your opinion about Jack's knowledge Tex.
The way I know that is that you posted:
Which has nothing to do with math and everything to do with a lack of a compass or any concrete values.
And?
It is an open forum.
If you don't want people responding to your posts, I would suggest that you stop making them.
I don't give two cents what you asked for.
Then why did you reply to me?
Because I chose to.
If you didn't want an answer, why did you ask?
Far be it for me to suggest that you should allow Jack to speak for himself.
I would never presume to be able to suss out another members knowledge base on an issue so accurately that I would speak for them.
But hey, you seem to think you're prescient and can speak for what's in others minds.
Carry on.
Oh? So you're relying on me for your news, now? I really can't advise that.
Did I quote you accurately?
We aren't talking about the 'news' Jack. We're talking about political motivations.
Since I read you as a conservative, I took your views on the RW's motivation as credible . If you'd prefer to be viewed as lacking credibility, so be it.
No worries on that account.
Then make sure you don't do that.
Good for you.
Jealous?
Naw, I'll leave that for you.
Actually no. I don't envy delusion.
R-I-G-H-T.
Sure thing!
Thanks for proving what I said about people who claim to be "moderates" or "independents" actually are just thinly-disguised rightwingers with pretensions.
Even Shitbag's private pollster (Rasmussen--1500 LVs) has shows a 10 point swing against Shitbag compared to last month's poll.
It makes him "feel better" to think so.
If he actually knew any conservatives, he'd be able to tell zealots from centrists.
He has half read part of a post which he had determined before he started was going to confirm his bias. It's established behavior at this point.
Well, that's what you claimed at the time and then you come here and prove my point. It was nice, but unnecessary, for you to do so. And, your notion that gridlock represents the moderate political viewpoint was the proof.
Go ahead and describe for us a scenario where the enactment of a Donald Trump initiative is good for America.
If you can't, you'll need to admit that gridlock is a preferable alternative.
You may have boxed him in with that.
No way in hell he will admit that anything Trump would possibly want is in line with his thinking.
Common sense tends to be an excellent weapon against irrational antagonism.
'Achomlishments': Photographer snaps look at Trump's notes in Rose Garden news conference
Also misspelled is the word intentionally - intentially
Musta bean thimking amouf hims oranges
Goes to show you that we have a moronic imbecile in the white house
Don't remember Hillary winning the election.
True, she didn't win. And that is why we have a moronic imbecile in the WH now.
American voters voted for Clinton over Trump...
Recheck the popular vote results. The American people didn't elect this president.
Just curious---if Trump didn't win the election, who did?
Didn't Trump win like every other President--by securing at least 270 electoral votes, as required by law?
You really need to comprehend that for better or worse, popular vote does not get presidents elected in this country, the Electoral College does. But you know that already so why do you bother mentioning it?
Did we miss something? Is the popular vote how presidents are elected? Did we change it somewhere along the way, and the folks crowing about the popular vote didn't tell the rest of the world? Or do they seriously just not know?
Just like the idiots claiming the 2018 midterms were a "landslide". Used to be, political parties judged their performance on how many seats they won or lost. That is sorta the GOAL, isn't it? But somehow, the overall number of votes became significant in some way to certain folks. The GOP lost fewer seats than did Obama or Clinton. Remember hearing about a "landslide" then? Nope--nary a peep from the ones claiming one now.
WTH do they teach in schools nowadays, or is it just a lot of folks suffering from delusions?
That looks fake...Tweeters falling for fake shit again?
Why don't you contact the photographer for authentication?
Nope, not fake. Google it dear.
I'd say Shitbag is acting like a spoiled 3 y.o. brat but that would be giving him far too much credit.
I should have included "with advanced dementia" to that description. My apologies.
Trump's recent speech in Philadelphia was incoherent. Even Palin could have done better than that rambling mess.
But, that would be an insult to 3 y/o's.
My 3 year old is infinitely more reasonable (thus a significantly better negotiator) than dip shit.
Meh, just Trump being Trump. Act like a total bitch when you think you are being treated unfairly. Honestly, him not doing shit may be the best possible outcome, not that he has done a whole lot outside of ruining the foundations of government.