It appears that Robert Mueller is letting America down.

  
By:  john-russell  •  3 weeks ago  •  28 comments

It appears that Robert Mueller is letting America down.

If I had to guess, my guess would be that Mueller expected the Congress to initiate impeachment hearings based on the Mueller Report. 

There is news that Mueller does not want to testify in public about his personal beliefs as to whether Trump obstructed justice. He wants to give those opinions in closed sessions of the Judiciary committee so as to not appear "political" to the public after being seen as non political for the past two years. 

This sounds fine and dandy in principle, but in the current turmoil and impasse the country needs Mueller to openly state and confirm his findings or otherwise explain them to everyone. This is not a situation that he can "finesse" to his own benefit. 

People from every angle of this and all political viewpoints want him to clearly indicate if Trump is personally guilty of wrongdoing, and nothing less from him is really acceptable.  I assume he thinks "I did my part", I left the path for Congress and now they need to pick up the ball", but he is the one seen as non partisan, and he is the one who needs to provide clarity.  Right now he is letting the country down. 

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https://politicalwire.com/2019/05/21/mueller-and-house-democrats-at-an-impasse/

“Robert Mueller and House Democrats have been unable to reach an agreement on how much of the special counsel’s expected congressional testimony would be public, and how much would take place in private,” the Washington Post reports.

“The special counsel’s office has been quietly negotiating with the House Judiciary Committee, whose chairman, Rep. Jerrold Nadler (D-NY), has been eager to have Mueller testify as soon as possible.”

“Mueller… would like for any discussions beyond the public contents of his report to be conducted in private. Democrats want to press Mueller in a nationally-televised hearing about a host of issues, including whether he thought President Trump could or should be charged with obstruction if he were not the president, and whether Mueller agreed with Attorney General William Barr’s handling of the investigation’s findings.”

CNN: “The special counsel’s team has expressed the notion that Mueller does not want to appear political after staying behind the scenes for two years and not speaking as he conducted his investigation into President Trump.”

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JohnRussell
1  author  JohnRussell    3 weeks ago

A Trump lackey suggested that the Democrats don't want Mueller to testify, when the truth is they want him to testify in public and affirm the findings of obstruction of justice that are in his report. 

 
 
 
Greg Jones
1.1  Greg Jones  replied to  JohnRussell @1    3 weeks ago

Neither his "personal beliefs" or feelings are relevant to any investigation.

Only the facts matter and perhaps Mueller has nothing new or earthshaking to add.

The report is completed and done and won't be amended.

It's amazing how quickly Mueller has gone from being a Democrat hero to their whipping boy in such a short time. jrSmiley_86_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
XDm9mm
1.1.1  XDm9mm  replied to  Greg Jones @1.1    3 weeks ago
Neither his "personal beliefs" or feelings are relevant to any investigation.

Well, "beliefs and feelings" are relevant to the Democrats.  Hell without those, they would have nothing at all. 

All of their hopes and dreams were obliterated like a raw egg dropped from the top of the "Freedom Tower" in New York when the Mueller report came out and there was NO collusion.  Now they've been relegated to turning over every grain of sand in a sand box, hoping and praying that they will find something, ANYTHING that they can use to bring down President Trump.

Hell even their best hope, Robert Mueller, is now looking over HIS shoulder at the new investigator AG Barr appointed, John Durham.   The house of cards is teetering and about to collapse.

 
 
 
Ronin2
1.1.2  Ronin2  replied to  Greg Jones @1.1    3 weeks ago

Mueller appeared non political for the last two years? By whose standards? jrSmiley_87_smiley_image.gif

Was it by hiring a bunch of Hillary and Obama contributors and sycophants from the private sector as part of his team?

Was it by allowing a bunch of Hillary sycophants from the FBI that worked on her email case; to cross over and work on the Russian collusion investigation?  The only reason they were removed from the investigation is their emails outed them.

Was it because he went after anyone associated with Trump for anything that wasn't remotely associated with Russian collusion? But as for collusion, zip, zero, nada, nothing.

Or could it be his gray, vague, touchy feely, inability to conclude that Trump had obstructed; but wanted to leave it open to interpretation.  He is too chicken shit to bring charges in a court of law; where he could face retribution if proven wrong. Better for impeachment using Congress- which we all know would be on political grounds only. Rule of law doesn't matter (see the Dems letting Bill Clinton's perjury slide). 

Seems that heir Mueller is reluctant not wanting to face questions from Republicans in public.  They could start with Carter Page not being charged, nor questioned. Then move on to see if Mueller even bothered to check the validity of the FISA warrants that made Page out to be a master spy for the Russians. After that a break down of his team of hired Hillary and Obama donors. Whether he knew, and when he knew, he had Hillary sycophants within the FBI working on his team. So many questions so little heir Mueller to go around.

 
 
 
dennis smith
1.1.3  dennis smith  replied to  XDm9mm @1.1.1    3 weeks ago

The dems pinned their hopes and dreams on a 2 year investigation that they didn't like the results of. Now they are trying to embark on in investigation of their own still trying to ge the results they want. 

Time for them to admit they were and are wrong and get the peoples work done.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
1.2  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  JohnRussell @1    3 weeks ago

It only appears that way to the majority of the progressive liberal left that are throwing a tantrum because the report did not say exactly what they wanted it to say.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
1.3  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @1    3 weeks ago

I know Republicans would love to be able to question him. If I were one of them, I would question him the way democrats questioned Justice Kavanaugh. After the questioning I would tell him that although he has been portrayed as a man of honor since the day he was named as a Special Counsel, I don't share that view.

The first question for Republicans should be "when did you know the President didn't conspire with the Russians?  How the hell would he answer that?  Ya, No wonder he dosen't want to show up!


As, for your comments, John, I predicted that all of you would shed that love for Muller, didn't I?   I predicted it before he handed in that report.

 
 
 
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2  Badfish H҉a҉n҉d҉ ҉o҉f҉ ҉D҉o҉o҉m҉    3 weeks ago

Well let's see, a guy was appointed who dislikes the president and then he hired 12 partisan Hillary donors to investigate. He then outsourced part of the investigation to the organization who was paid by the Hillary campaign to take Russian disinformation and use it to dump before an election, obtain fisa warrants and then inspire a coup attempt.

The disappointment was inevitable.

If Mueller is lucky he will avoid being caught in the current anti-corruption dragnet taking place in the DOJ.

 
 
 
XDm9mm
2.1  XDm9mm  replied to  Badfish H҉a҉n҉d҉ ҉o҉f҉ ҉D҉o҉o҉m҉ @2    3 weeks ago
If Mueller is lucky he will avoid being caught in the current anti-corruption dragnet taking place in the DOJ.

Mueller is likely shitting his pants right now since it's John Durham that's doing the investigating.   Durham is a pit bull that even Mueller is afraid of.  It was Durham that brought down the corruption of the Boston FBI office and when FBI Director Robert Mueller refused to provide the exculpatory evidence which was later used to exonerate the convictions of some men who were framed by the FBI, Durham fought it in court and the judge THREATENED Mueller with Contempt of Court if he continued to refuse to provide it.

Mueller is going to be VERY careful of what he says and to who.   Open sessions are dangerous to him as they're videoed and recorded.   He'll be caught up in yet more lies.

 
 
 
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2.1.1  Badfish H҉a҉n҉d҉ ҉o҉f҉ ҉D҉o҉o҉m҉  replied to  XDm9mm @2.1    3 weeks ago

He is avoiding congressional testimony under oath because he is going to be asked if he enlisted Fusion GPS to help him investigate Russian Collusion. If he lies he's screwed and If he tells the truth he's screwed.

 
 
 
Tacos!
3  Tacos!    3 weeks ago
the country needs Mueller to openly state and confirm his findings or otherwise explain them to everyone.

No, it doesn't. The country will roll along just fine without any public testimony from Mueller. It's the Democrats who think they need some kind of public shaming of Donald Trump because they didn't get it to their satisfaction in the official report. It's not about justice. It's about politics. They'd be better off publicly talking about how they are going to improve the country rather than running around desperately looking for a noose they can fit over Trump's head.

 
 
 
tomwcraig
3.1  tomwcraig  replied to  Tacos! @3    3 weeks ago

The irony is that they keep putting the noose on their own necks.  They are trying to usurp Executive Branch powers and authority for their own in all of this.   That will definitely backfire on them as they are running around saying "We are honoring our oaths to uphold and defend the Constitution!" while they are stomping all over it trying to get Trump removed from office any which way they can.  They are trying to access his financial records without any actual crime to investigate as Mueller clearly stated there was no Russian collusion by ANY AMERICAN.  Yet, they are writing subpoenas for his financial records to "see the foreign influences in the election."  There was no foreign influence in the election involving the Trump campaign as stated by Mueller already.  This is just an abuse of power by the Democratic Party that judges are foolishly siding with.  Frankly, if I was in Congress, I would be asking for the financial records of Nadler, Schiff, Waters, and every other committee chairman that has been asking for Trump's tax returns and bank information to prove the point that this is an overreach of Congressional oversight to the point of harassment and usurpation of the Executive Branch's authority.

 
 
 
Sunshine
4  Sunshine    3 weeks ago

Do an open hearing and let the Republican's staff lawyers do the questioning.

Have the Dems issued his subpoena yet?  What is the hold up?

 
 
 
Jack_TX
5  Jack_TX    3 weeks ago

So.... failure to affirm an unhinged Trump fixation is now "letting America down".  

Looks like we're starting out at "4 Saimese" on the Crazy Cat Lady scale.

 
 
 
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5.1  Badfish H҉a҉n҉d҉ ҉o҉f҉ ҉D҉o҉o҉m҉  replied to  Jack_TX @5    3 weeks ago

So now Trump is guilty of a cover up. What cover up? I think he is covering up that the Russian hoax was a cover up or something.

Maybe one of our thesaurus googling internet attorneys can explain this fantastically.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
5.1.1  author  JohnRussell  replied to  Badfish H҉a҉n҉d҉ ҉o҉f҉ ҉D҉o҉o҉m҉ @5.1    3 weeks ago

The good thing about conspiracy theories is that when they don't pan out you can always blame it on another more elaborate conspiracy to keep the first conspiracy hidden.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
5.1.2  Greg Jones  replied to  JohnRussell @5.1.1    3 weeks ago

Spooky action at a distance.

Yep, the whole wacky collusion thingy was one wild conspiracy theory after another based entirely on readings taken from ground up unicorn horn and fairy dust, like Tinkerbell use to throw.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
5.1.3  Jack_TX  replied to  JohnRussell @5.1.1    3 weeks ago
The good thing about conspiracy theories is that when they don't pan out you can always blame it on another more elaborate conspiracy to keep the first conspiracy hidden.

Sounds like you have a plan all worked out.  

 
 
 
CometRider
6  CometRider    3 weeks ago

Mueller is doing his Pontius Pilate impression at the trail of Jesus saying I can't find any fault with this man (Trump), but I hate him so I'm hoping you (Democrats in Congress) will crucify him, I want no part of it.

 
 
 
XDm9mm
6.1  XDm9mm  replied to  CometRider @6    3 weeks ago
but I hate him so I'm hoping you (Democrats in Congress) will crucify him, I want no part of it.

Please allow me to make a minor correction:   "I want no part of it because I don't have the balls to try to justify my absurd position."

 
 
 
bbl-1
7  bbl-1    3 weeks ago

Uh no.  Mueller did not 'let America down.'  America let itself down when it permitted a 'stable genius' to convince them that he was.  Putin helped too.

 
 
 
The Magic Eight Ball
8  The Magic Eight Ball    3 weeks ago

it is a 5 step process

  • Denial,
  • Anger,
  • Bargaining,    You Are Here
  • Depression,
  • Acceptance.
 
 
 
Thrawn 31
8.1  Thrawn 31  replied to  The Magic Eight Ball @8    3 weeks ago

I have accepted that America is fucked thanks to people like you. I have told my wife that while we may somehow avoid it, our daughters will have to live under the Christian Taliban(probably even worse than the Islamic one).

 
 
 
Jack_TX
8.1.1  Jack_TX  replied to  Thrawn 31 @8.1    3 weeks ago
I have accepted that America is fucked thanks to people like you. I have told my wife that while we may somehow avoid it, our daughters will have to live under the Christian Taliban(probably even worse than the Islamic one).

That's not batshit crazy or anything.......

 
 
 
Texan1211
8.1.2  Texan1211  replied to  Thrawn 31 @8.1    3 weeks ago

Oh, NO!! Help, HELP, HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Might as well tell them to move, right?

 
 
 
dennis smith
8.1.3  dennis smith  replied to  Thrawn 31 @8.1    3 weeks ago

Another " the sky is falling" comment

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
9  Thrawn 31    3 weeks ago

Sorry Mueller, either (in your opinion) Trump is a retarded piece of shit or he is a criminal complete piece of shit. You have to say, stop being a bitch, we need to hear the conclusion from your own mouth. 

 
 
 
Greg Jones
9.1  Greg Jones  replied to  Thrawn 31 @9    3 weeks ago

It's the same as what he wrote, and makes no difference, no how.

 
 
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