The Harriet Tubman $20 bill was set for 2020. Now the Trump administration says it won't happen for years
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The Harriet Tubman $20 bill was set for 2020. Now the Trump administration says it won't happen for years
May 23, 2019
Harriet Tubman $20 bill facing delays
Don't bet on seeing a Harriet Tubman $20 bill anytime soon. The redesigned bill bearing Tubman's face, which was supposed to debut next year, will not be coming out for nearly a decade, Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin said.
Planning started years ago to have Tubman replace former President Andrew Jackson on the $20 bill. Tubman, who was born into slavery and became a noted abolitionist and political activist, would be the first black woman to have her face on U.S. currency. The new bill was scheduled to be released in 2020 to coincide with the 100th anniversary of the 19th Amendment, which gave women the right to vote.
But Mnuchin said Wednesday that it won't be happening under the Trump administration.
"It's not a decision that is likely to come until way past my term, even if I serve the second term for the president," Mnuchin told the House Financial Services Committee. "So I'm not focused on that for the moment."
In the Women on 20s grassroots campaign, which inspired bills in the House and the Senate, Harriet Tubman came out the frontrunner to replace President Andrew Jackson on the $20 bill, after more than 600,000 people cast ballots. WomenOn20s.orgMnuchin said a redesign of the bill's security features will still come out in 2020. But the issue of changing how the bill looks "most likely" won't come up again until 2026, he said, and the new $20 bill won't be printed until 2028.
Mnuchin did not explain why the Tubman bill won't be produced on his watch. He also did not state whether he personally supports seeing Tubman on the money. "I've made no decision as it relates to that," he said.
Democratic Rep. Ayanna Pressley of Massachusetts, who grilled Mnuchin about the Tubman plan, tweeted after the hearing: "People other than white men built this county. And Sec Mnuchin agrees, yet he refuses to update our #currency."
Mnuchin's predecessor in the Obama administration, Jack Lew, oversaw a 10-month process in which the public suggested hundreds of people whose portraits could appear on U.S. bills. He said that process "inspired" him to put Tubman on the $20 bill. The Treasury Department announced in April 2016 that it would work on getting the new bill out "as quickly as possible."
President Trump said during the 2016 campaign that he did not support putting Tubman on the 20, calling the plan "pure political correctness." He suggested instead having Tubman on "the $2 bill" or "another bill."
Mr. Trump has expressed admiration for President Andrew Jackson, who was a slave owner, and had a portrait of him put in the Oval Office.
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This is strictly a bone being thrown to trump's white racist fans.
Maybe Trump should get Frederick Douglas on the phone and see what he thinks.
Dear Friend John Russell: The Harriet Tubman home {part of the underground railroad} (now museum) in Auburn, NY is something all upstate New Yorker's and visitors put on their to visit list.
Ms. Tubman is revered here in upstate NY, as are Susan B. Anthony, Anne Elanor Roosevelt and other prominent upstate NY women leaders.
To us their are of sacred memory.
We make it our business to carry on their good work.
We look forward to Ms.Tubmans's image on the $20 ASAP.
P&AB.
Enoch.
Trump's supporters would rather have Robert E Lee or Jefferson Davis on the $20.00. Putin would be on the $50.00
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When Mnuchin said, "It won't be happening under the Trump Administration," believe him.
They got Carson, their obligation is fulfilled.
This too. Perhaps the administration is having a bad 'bone spur day.'
Trump wants HIS picture on the bill, but he probably thinks a 20 is beneath him, monetarily wise.
I have one !
It's 24k Gold Too !
How much did you pay for that?
I forgot !
If it was more than $.25, you paid far too much.
I would shred it if someone gave it to me for free.
I'm not You ….
!
Praise be to FSM for that.
I know ….. right ?
Why is this always presented as if it were relevant? Washington and Jefferson both owned slaves and they're all over the money! Each of them are on both bills and coins. The capitol is named for Washington. There are huge stone memorials to both men.
But Jackson owned slaves, therefore he's the evil one. We either need to decide that all our early leaders were evil men and erase them from history, or we need to take some historical perspective and get over it.
It's not just that he owned slaves, he totally advocated for the westward expansion of slavery, but that may have been one of his more savory features.
He was overly aggressive and bad tempered - involved in at least 3 duels ( killed Chas Dickensen ) and was a brutal Commander during the War of 1812 especially when he declared Marshall law in New Orleans and suspended the writ of habeas corpus for the only time on American soil. He treated his soldiers badly after the victory. He is reviled by amost every surviving American Indian today.
Bookmarking your list for when JohnRussel next proclaims that Trump is the worst president in US history.
Frankly, I don't care if they remove Jackson. But I do think appearing on currency should be an honor reserved for dead presidents. Yes, that means we would need to do something about Ben Franklin.
Harriet Tubman was an American hero. But not more of a hero than Teddy Roosevelt, John Adams or GHWB.
For those who think Trump is vilified unfairly, this cartoon was reproduced many times with different captions about Jackson's Executive "over-reach"
ignoring a SCOTUS ruling etc.
But it isn't a rule, in fact Martha Washington was on a $1 bill and we have had Bison $10, an anonymous(?) American Indian Chief, $5, Eagles, trains, boats and angels.
Chief Justice John Marshall $500, Alexander Hamilton is on the $1,000 bill and the $10,
and Justice Salmon P Chase is on both the $5,000 and $10,000 notes. (Who the heck was he?)
All of the larger notes are still legal tender but discontinued in 1969 along with President Wilson's $100,000.00 note.
Oh I realize that. That would just be my preference.
And a good preference at that.
But like the naming of US naval vessels, there is always an exception to traditions and preferences, lol.
Well, it's a preference that I'm sure is shared with many white supremacists and sexists who want the white male image on everything of value. Proclaiming a preference for "Presidents only" on our money instantly restricts the options to virtually all white males except for our last great President who was only half white but still all male. I'm not saying everyone who wants only Presidents on their money is racist or sexist, but I believe nearly all racists and sexists would favor only Presidents on their money.
But that is the go-to complaint about him in this article and elsewhere. I think it's presented, in part, as a counterpoint to Tubman, who was, of course, born a slave. My point is that there is nothing unique in Andrew Jackson about owning slaves or even advocating for the system. He was a man of his times and his peers in American leadership were very much like him.
And if you want to hold him up as someone who was hostile to native Americans, that's a pretty big group, too. Washington made war on Indians in every direction, often with crappy results. Though Thomas Jefferson didn't "remove" any Indians, he did write in support of the idea. Remember also that the first Indian Removal act may have been signed by Jackson, but it was first passed by Congress.
The anti-Jackson people want to act like he was the only person who ever took any action against Indians and that he did it all himself. Really, there more "removing" done under Martin Van Buren than under Jackson. The fact is American settlers were going to push west and nothing was going to stop them. Every president since Washington could see that. Heck, what does Jefferson's "purchase" of the Louisiana territory say about concepts of Indian land rights?
I agree you should be dead to be on the money, but I don't think it needs to be limited to presidents. Alexander Hamilton is on the $10 bill, and I think that's reasonable considering his contributions to our early economy. I have no problem with Tubman on the money, either. I just think it's bogus, trendy, and the PC politics of the moment to act like Andrew Jackson is suddenly undeserving of anything other than universal hate.
Then you might want to lead with that, because your first sentence certainly gave exactly the opposite impression.
You do realize that the implementation of that rule would remove two white men from the currency, yes? Further, the support of Tubman because she was black and female is itself "racist" and "sexist".
Again, Harriet Tubman was an American hero. But her actions were not more heroic than any Medal of Honor winner. Why aren't we talking about putting them on the currency? Her actions were no more heroic than Mary Ludwig Hays McCauley. Why doesn't she get a bill? Pretending that choosing a person because of their gender and ethnicity somehow represents "justice", correcting the "injustice" of choosing people based on race and gender is more than a little nonsensical.
I simply believe there should be some sort of standardization as to who gets on currency. We're not talking about commemorative postage stamps. It's a very high honor, and as such there should be some guidelines on how it is bestowed.
I can understand that.
I think I'm sticking with "dead presidents", but I certainly don't think your view is unreasonable.
That's just a function of huge numbers of young people waking up to the reality that life wasn't always as protected as theirs has been.
and found unconstitutional - which Jackson just ignored.
No it wasn't. The Supreme Court ruled a Georgia law was unconstitutional.
He also never said the quote in question.
$500 would be William McKinley not marshall
$1000 would be Grover Cleveland not Alexander Hamilton
$5000 would be James Madison not SP Chase( he was Sec of treas under Lincoln during the civil war and was also the 6th Chief justice of the USSC)
$10,000 is SP Chase
$100,000 is Woodrow Wilson
never saw Martha Washington on a bill.
If the Georgia law was unconstitutional, and Jackson ignored it, the same law passed by Congress was equally unconstitutional.
as to the Jackson never making that statement, I await your proof.
All of the negotiations with Jackson were over the Georgia law and the SCOTUS interpretation of the same.
Keep in mind that different people were on different denominations over long periods of time
$500, John Marshall, Blue Seal - McKinley was Green Seal
Lady Liberty: every single coin
Chief Onepapa: $5 silver certificate
Daniel Webster: $10 United States note
Lews & Clark: $10 United States Note
VP Thomas Hendricks: $10 Silver Certificate
Michael Hillegas, 1st US Treasurer: $10 Gold Certificate ( preceded Alex Hamilton, who, after the Revolution became the first Secretary of the Treasury )
Former Treasury Secretary Hugh McCulloch: $20 National Bank Note
Former Comptroller of the currency John J. Knox, $50 National Bank Note
Thomas Hart Benton, $100 Gold Certificate
Former Chief Justice John Marshall, $500 Federal Reserve Note
You should at least look at Marshall's opinion. That claim is false on every level. That states and the Federal government have different powers is a basic premise of our system of government. Moreover, the laws in question are not the same.
as to the Jackson never making that statement, I await your proof.
I'm not going to waste timing proving a negative, but no serious historian will credit that statement to him.
Those blue seal notes are not common currency, usually in the lower denominations , they have printed on them silver certificate, reminants of back when the US was on the gold and silver standard , back when our currencies were actually backed by something other than a fiat "promise" of worth. the higher denomination blue seal notes where used exclusively by the government with other governments and thus not in public circulation nor even in circulation within the banking system like some I pointed out , I know the highest denomination single bill I have ever seen personally has been a $1000 bill and even then it was in a bank, and I was told they were not for gen pop circulation , remember this was back before the internet and electronic banking , when banks actually had to transfer actual funds to cover their bank notes . cheques.
paper currency for the gen pop use has always had the red , or green seal, with the lower denomination blue seal silver certificates being available to people until the silver standard was done away with under Nixon.
My best personal "find" was a $10 note from the Chicago federal reserve dated 1934, I got it overseas, when I cashed a check on base while I was stationed there.
Another personal best was when I got a dollar bill with 8 nines in the serial number, I held on to that one for years to play liars poker with.
That is why I stated
None the less, they exist and, as I stated, they are still legal tender if you find one.
have a good holiday weekend.
Good to hear, have a good holiday weekend.
Have a good weekend yourself.
Finding one of those high denomination bills ?
I think I would have better luck finding a 1933 gold double eagle , than finding one of those old bills.
Three words of relevancy....Trail Of Tears.
Better watch out for the Van Buren Boys.
The trail of tears took place under Martin Van Buren.
And would never have happened without Andrew jackson
or the fact that Van Buren was hand picked by Jackson.
The most you can disparage is the legacy of the early Democratic party.
Yes, but it was Jackson who put it in motion with the Indian Removal Process.
The Tubman twenty-dollar bill would be an honor for a Black woman.
Trump will never allow such a horrific event.
Why Steve King thinks it's sexist and racist to put a black woman on US currency.
Old article, but related.
" The Harriet Tubman $20 bill was set for 2020. Now the Trump administration says it won't happen for years"
OMG.….I'm going to go kill myself right now !
The Susan B. Anthony coin was a waste, will this be any different ?
All People look at when they are gonna pay for something, is the denomination amount, not whose friggin face is on money.
Most of the "Minority" in this country couldn't even tell you whom is on what Bill or coin. It's 'cause they don't give a hoot either.
When I was in Dubai for Desert Storm, the beauty of their bills was wonderful. No picture, except for a falcon and each bill a different color. It was explained to me that they use different colors so that those who can not read or write would know the denominations.
A Simple Green and White work for me.
Money comes, and money goes, and sometimes it goes too fast to worry about what it looks like.
I think color coding was a great idea. At least those who have to use the colors to determine denomination won't get ripped off by merchants.
Unless they are color blind. That would present a problem with the color coding for them. My Paternal Grandfather was color blind and he had some pretty unusual problems during his life.
Staying in school would be a much better idea !
If a person is color blind they associate the color they do see with the denomination. If they are blind, they use the same method for bills as other blind people do (ie....fold a bill in half or fold a corner.
If you read my original post, it was referring to the UAE. SA is full of nomad peoples, whose children rarely learn to read and write unless it is at the tribal level and only the boys. Conventional schools are not accessible.
I was there at the same time and you are correct. Still have a few bills stuffed in a jar someplace, along with my 20 "dollar" dinar with Saddam's mug on it. Hard to believe that it has changed so much.
The Euro is an interesting combination different colours and different sizes (ie 5 euro bill is small, 50 euro bill is bigger). Always thought that was a smart way to make the money.
Do you think that fewer people will use the $20 if it has Harriet Tubman's picture on it?
The majority of intelligent people in this country don't give a whit whose face on the the $20.00 bill as long as the monetary value stays the same. Only the racially prejudice idiots will refrain from using the $20.00 bill if there is a Black persons' face on it.
Uh-oh....
That leaves a few million who wouldn't even touch a Tubman bill. Blackness or womanness might be infectious,after all.
Well....that could have a negative effect for those who believe that only Whites, male or female, have the right to be honored on our currency. So I suppose we will never see a Native American honored in such a way either.
You know... that would be a such an easy, effective way to put a ton of ugly history definitively into the past.
So of course... ain't gonna happen...
Because if we put Sitting Bull on the $10 bill that makes up for everything.
Riiiiight.
True.
And yet we put Andrew Jackson on the $20.00 bill and that makes up for everything he did with the Native American Removal, The Trail of Tears, and his Manifest Destiny, were actions that were A-OK and deserving of such an honor.
Riiiiiiight.
Sacagawea Dollar coin, still in circulation
I think they're worth $5 now.
They are very rare to see. I have 3 of them and I gave 2 to my daughter. I have 3-4 Susan B. Anythony's as well.
original issue and protected , maybe , but they are still in circulation with a face value of only $1 , I see more of those and $2 bills of the oddball type stuff in my change, I think the susan b dollar didn't catch on because it was the same size as the quarter with the same ridge markings , it made people have to actually look at their coins. so with the Sac dollar they learned their lesson , its slightly larger and of a different color than other coins.
I forgot about the Sacagawea dollar coin. Thank you for the reminder. I guess I forgot about it as I never saw it but once, and that was some time ago.
I stopped using the Susan B coins as I gave away too many of them as quarters.
Most people don't know it but for any coin or bill in circulation , the easiest place to get them is at your bank, they always have whats in circulation on hand . its there for the asking. now some might be harder to get like the susan B because I do not know anyone that wants them other than a novelty, for exactly the reason you stated look and feel like a quarter .
The way to make money on coins and bills , get proofs and uncirculated , once they are in circulation , their value is basically what it says on them , to gain value circulated coins and bills have to be around a long long time to become rare.
maybe i see Sacagawea dollar coins more around here is because I live only about 10 miles from her burial site .
Are you a numismatic ? I like that word.
Thanks for the info Mark. Next time I go to the bank I will ask for one of the Sacagawea coins. I'd like to have one just for the Native American aspect.
My grandfathers got me started on wheatback pennies , I got as far back as 1919 before the collection "disappeared", I had even started going for different mint marks . Not really a collector unless I find something in my pocket change , for me the thrill is in the finding it and imagining the history or hands it passed through to get to me from that long ago time.
most people don't know there is a way for blind people to tell what the denomination of their coins are.
it depends on the size and the type pf edge it has . a penny has a smooth edge and has a certain size just as any coin does . a nickle has a smooth edge and distinct size , a dime size and cut edge quarter same cut edge ( that's where the SBAD ran into trouble same size and rough edge as a quarter.) , half dollars are size and rough edged , now dollar coins , its size and can have both types of edges smooth or rough , and of the 3 the 2 easiest to id without sight is the Eisenhower dollar (size rough edge ) and the SAC size little bigger than a quarter , not as big as a kennedy half, and has a smooth edge .
True as you point out. However, they were talking about the paper money, which was color coded. Unless there was a way the color blind could feel the paper and find a clue as to the color or amount of the paper money, they would not be able to identify what the color of the paper money was or what its amount was.
But, if the paper money was produced in different sizes then it would be easier to identify what the amount of each size is.
However, for those who are actually blind it could be a bit harder to identify the monetary value of each paper color. And what our currency here in the US has that may help the blind deal with the paper money does not apply to the country that is using the color coded currency.
Folks just look at the 20 number. Kinda makes pictures "Useless" huh !
Will you be upset if her "Picture" isn't on the bill ?
I look at the artwork on the bills because I studied art.
It is a slap in the face because she deserves the recognition, even if racists are offended at the idea of a black woman on our money.
That's wonderful.
"It is a slap in the face because she deserves the recognition"
Why .... Because she's black ..... since your soooo into race that is ("even if racists are offended at the idea of a black woman on our money.")
Is that it ?
A black woman on our currency would upset the NAZI base.
Let the buggers be upset. I don't cater to racists. Or those who champion ice cream cone hats and mess around with tiki lights like some circus clown wanna be's.
Right. How stupid can they be?