Trump Is Making Our Entire Culture Stupid
Every day he tweets something stupid and then his lackeys and bootlickers go out to the world and try to pave the stupidity over. This is the daily progress of the presidency of the United States Of America. Some of the public have become so used to it they now take it for granted.
It is not at all unreasonable to say that President* Trump says something stupid on twitter EVERY DAY, and then there is a back and forth between some in the media and various Trump defenders as they hash out just how stupid it was. (or to the defenders, "wasn't". )
There are Trump lackeys like Kayleigh McEnany whose sole purpose seems to be to come on cable news and try and clean up Trump's daily messes. If she is getting paid by piecework she is getting rich.
Tonight her assigned role was to "clean up" this tweet from Trump.
I never called Meghan Markle “nasty.” Made up by the Fake News Media, and they got caught cold! Will @ CNN , @ nytimes and others apologize? Doubt it!
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Mc Enany's challenge , which she perkily accepted was to make this sentence inoperative - "I never called Meghan Markle “nasty.”"
There is an audio of Trump saying, exactly, "I didn't know she was nasty", referring to Markle.
It certainly is possible to claim that Trump didnt intend to say Markle is personally nasty, but rather her previous comments about him were nasty, in his opinion. But the fact is he did say "I didnt know she was nasty". So why bother to deny you said it?
Because you are Donald Trump. Every day he tweets something stupid and then his lackeys and bootlickers go out to the world and try to pave the stupidity over. This is the daily progress of the presidency of the United States Of America. Some of the public have become so used to it they now take it for granted. They don't ask "why is the president calling a young woman who is now a princess in the UK "nasty" in the first place? Why does he constantly get involved in these ridiculous imbroglios ?
Trump has lowered the discourse of the presidency off the bottom of the chart. This morning he attacked the mayor of London based on his height (the man is 5'6"). Then someone will comment on Trump's boorishness and Trump's bootlickers will span out across the mediaverse and tell everyone that either they didnt hear what they heard or "who cares", "the economy".
Meanwhile people get dumber every day, thanks to our president.
It doesnt have to be this way you know.
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Our reality tv president. People who won't watch reality tv for entertainment accept it in their national leader.
Twitter had already made our entire culture stupid long before Trump.
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should make you blush, but that’s the way I read what I read about you , via your autobiographer
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I’m hoping he makes the transition to Parler. It’s a better service.
I think we've been going stupid long before Twitter.
You're right.
I'm just still amazed by the stupidity explosion that Twitter has produced.
I tend to think social media propagates and amplifies stupidity. Especially if that where people get their information from. You never see tweets (or at least, not nearly enough) talking about or giving math lessons or discussing science. It's all about what one is doing or what the Kardashians are up to now, or some nonsense like that.
He said he didn't know she had made nasty comments to about him, not that she was nasty herself.
Listen real close next time and note the emphasis
I know what he said and what he may have been referring to. Because he is such a poor public speaker and so miserable at explaining himself, he referred to the woman as nasty. Then he tries to rub the publics nose in his stupidity by advertising it on twitter. He does this sort of thing every single day. He is an embarrassment to this country. Everyone of intelligence knows that.
He specifically referred to her as nasty. What is it about him that prevents you from believing the bullshit he spews, even when it's available on audio? He said, "No, I didn't know that she was nasty."
Just because he lies about what he said doesn't mean his supporters should do the same.
Nope, Greg. Just not even close.
Actually, I think that is in their contract.
Gaslighting has become a policy for the GOP under Trump.
If anything positive comes from the Trump administration I hope that knowledge and understanding of the Dunning Kruger effect and gaslighting are along with them. If people know what gaslighting is and how it works then they are less susceptible to its effects.
Meanwhile people get dumber every day, thanks to our president.
Actually John, the last part of that SHOULD read - "thanks to some members of NT with their continuous Dead Horse beatings"
There - fixed it for ya. Yur welcum.
Thats right, blame the victim, lol.
If you think we are going to accept this daily nonsense for six more years you are crazy.
So whatcha gonna do about it John.
You're stuck with the Trumpster for half a dozen more years.
Really? How much would you bet on that?
You are going to accept it for almost 6 more years and you will enjoy every moment of it.
I seem to remember a lot of rightwingers piling on the ridicule for people predicting a sure HRC win in 2016. One would think that they'd recognize the folly of doing the same thing now, especially this far ahead of the next election. But, I guess the temptation was just too much to resist. I wonder if they remember the old adage about what goes around comes around.
Sounds like you and Greg might have some inside information on how the Russians are going to help Shitbag this time. But I don't see either of you willing to actually risk on your certainty. How's about this: If Shitbag loses in 2020, you, Greg and anyone else making predictions like this, will permanently leave the NT.
The gop is still in denial about the historic whooping they got in November...
I've put an article up for the whole membership to consider this idea. It should be fun (if the mods let it pass).
Been transferred to Metafied.
You mean like Shitbag and/or his followers still calling for locking HRC up for fuck-all? That kind of "dead horse beating?"
Is that what you read?
Ain't it the truth?
His supporters and most other rational people don't care.
Because most rational people don't have problem with a person who lies every day about everything? WTF? How does one respond to people who chose to identify and support a racist lying asshole? Doesn't matter what he says, blind support and no rational thinking.
Definitely his supporters don't mind the lying. In fact, that's what they want. Rational people are an altogether different group.
How is it that actual human adults cannot bring themselves to ignore a person who is untruthful? WTF indeed.
Trump is the symptom of an ignorant and emotional society, not the cause.
News flash...batshit lefty ignorance and emotional instability is not better than batshit righty ignorance and emotional instability.
It is the fact that he wields significant political power. If Trump wasn't a nationwide elected official I would ignore his idiocy like I do the neighbor's dog.
I blame reality TV
But seriously, when reality TV shows are this popular ... I think it proves your point. Although they are also a symptom, not a cause.
I'll go with that.
I'm not sure I won't need additional things to blame. There is a lot of it to go around.
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Ahh, the good ol' comfy land of Smug Bothsiderism where everything is considered equal and no judgment is required (or even allowed).
Judgment is allowed and passed, and encouraged. Especially judgment of one's own "side".
The only people who believe their side's batshit ignorance to be better than the other side's are those afflicted with the disease.
Judgment without any criteria or standards is just blather. Bothsiderism is lazy at best and self-righteous smugness at worst.
It's actually impossible to make a judgment without some form of criteria. Choices made with no criteria are "random", which is a different thing.
I'm sure you would like to think so. You have those backwards, BTW.
But your motives are transparent. You post history indicates clearly your zeal for antagonizing anyone with differing views than your own but a lack of effort required to engage in thoughtful conversation. People with extremist views generally have lower intellectual capabilities and are targets you can handle. Moderates are smart enough to view issues from multiple perspectives, and generally smart enough to be beyond your reach. The best evidence of this is that you now find yourself in the pathetic position of having nothing more to attack than moderation itself.
In words you'll understand... you're only looking for a fight and can't find anything better to fight about than someone not wanting to fight. It's like a scene from a bad movie about a high school bully.
Just saying "both sides do it" does not criteria make. It's just intellectual, ethical and moral sloth and political cowardice.
More like three years of it.
Trump Is Making Our Entire Culture Stupid
Sorry John, the dumbing down of America came about long before Mr. Trump arrived on the political scene.
Most likely the reason many folks are drawn to him, stupidity seems to be like a magnet of late.
Not from the presidency.
George W. Bush
Ronald Reagan
It would be rather easy to blame Mr. Trump for all of the ills of America, but then it would be wrong. Not saying that he hasn't made it chic to be dumb, but it certainly did not begin with him.
As my late wife once said, I am a prick, but a fair prick.
If you want to compare the garbage and basic insanity we get from Trump on an hourly basis to what Bush 2 or Reagan used to do, knock yourself out. I think there are magnitudes of difference.
I guess your attitude explains why you don't get worked up over Trump.
My attitude is not to waste time over things I have no control over and look at things objectively. I feel our culture became stupid prior to Mr. Trump's arrival, has he made it easier to display stupidity, sure but the overall responsibility is not his, plenty of blame to share.
Of course it did. How do you think he got elected?
He got elected because the people disliked Hillary more than the did Trump.
Over 60 million people can't be all that wrong.
At any rate, y'all are stuck with him forever and for always
I don't know why anyone would get all worked up with who is president.
He didn't get elected POTUS for life
IMHO ,simple answer ? ego and pride.
Nonsense.
And thank the fates none of them are , and they are limited to only just shy of a decade , maybe it should be that way for all elected federal offices ….
We have never had a reason before. Trump is a con man, liar, crook, cheat, and ignoramus. All of those are more than enough reason to speak out against him.
I'm with you on that!
This is EXACTLY why Trump is President...and if the Dems don't offer a candidate better than what we've seen so far, he will have another four years in office.
I don't think its going to come down to the candidate this time around , but it will depend more on the overall party platform that the candidate will be running on, the candidate can only do as much as the party platform dictates with its support of certain issues , and that's not even talking about what happens in a divided congress.
People will again end up voting their own interests on issues that matter to them , their own personal "yardstick " they use to evaluate the different candidates and their positions .
Right now none of the candidates show up on my yard stick, from either party , but not everyone that's going to run has announced yet , and its still early in the process.
well john I am entitled to my opinion , and I did start of by saying it was simply my opinion, shame you didn't ask why I came to that opinion .
Out of the past 10 presidential elections , I have voted for the person that won exactly 5 times, those times I didn't vote for the winner(3 of those times including the last cycle I voted for a 3rd party candidate) , it sucked , no one likes to think they voted for a loser,and ego and pride , sometimes makes people either rethink their choices , or double down on a losing game out of pride .
How much power does a president actually have over anyones day to day life? IMO very little to none, that cant be gotten around.
So ego and pride is a simple answer , even though it is a little more complex than that. In my opinion.
3 million more people disliked your Dirtbag more than Hillary. A lot more than that dislike him now.
Then 63 million other people had to have been right, then.
So elect someone else in 2020.
Workin' on it.
And with the help of his friend, Putin.....let's not keep trying to forget that, Greg, mkay?
I agree.
However, there are several things that made it even worse-- chief among them is Trump.
He did an awesome job in Europe this week and his D-Day speech was very good.
This is what Dumbya called the soft bigotry of low expectations (and he was one of the best examples of low expectation). But Dirtbag has lowered that bar so deeply that he can (and does) cover himself with his own shit on a regular basis and his followers cheer for it every time.
Only if "awesome" in Trumpland means disgustingly using the cemetery in Normandy as a backdrop for making domestic political attacks, lavishly overspending taxpayer money on his putrid family and making it a point to use that taxpayer travel money to stay at hotels owned by the vastly wealthy oil sheikdoms of the Middle East--IOW paying them back for staying at his hotel in DC by spending money that wasn't his. IOW, awesome as in awesomely corrupt.
yepp... totally fake news.... and the left is drooling over it like fukin morons
a reporter asked trump if he heard merkels "nasty comments" about him.
he replied: I didn’t know that she was nasty.”
the left have lost their collective minds... and they want to run our country? fuk them.
I always enjoy watching a Trumper calls someone a moron and than dives right into the shallow moron end of the pool. Here we have someone who put up a quote about Markle but then refers to "merkels" in his own comment. So he's either incapable of distinguishing Megan Markle from Angela Merkels or is so inept that he couldn't even get the name right in the space of the minute or so between reading the quote and writing the comment. Either way, we can all see how misplaced the epithet was.
Unlike some people here, I like to be accurate as much as possible. Frankly that it why I am so good on forums like this. You are always better when you are accurate.
YOU said "a reporter asked trump if he heard merkels "nasty comments" about him." "Nasty comments" is what you quote the reporter as saying. I listened to the video that you linked to, the reporter in question never used the word "nasty." Nope. Didn't happen. Trump is the one who describes people as "nasty" and he is the one, and the only one, who used the word in this instance also.
Back to the drawing board with you Magic 8 Ball.
It's cracked and leaking.
no need... only the most stupid believe he called her "nasty"
The Sun : "Now Meghan, who is now the Duchess of Sussex, we've given her a different name, she can't make it because she's got maternity leave. Are you sorry not to see her? Because she wasn't so nice about you during the campaign. I don't know if you saw that."
Trump: "I didn't know that, no. I didn't know that. No. I hope's okay. I did not know that, no."
The Sun: "She said she'd move to Canada if you got elected. It turned out she moved to Britain."
Trump: "Well, that'll be good. There are a lot of people moving here. So, what can I say? No, I didn't know that she was nasty. "
The Sun: "Is it good having an American princess though, Mr. President?"
Trump: "I think it's nice. I think it's nice. I'm sure she'll do excellently. She'll be very good. She'll be very good. I hope she does."
frankly, your nothing but a hack.
cheers
I have no idea what "good" point you think you are making. You said that the reporter had used the word "nasty" first. It turns out that the reporter didnt use the word nasty at all. That is a Trump word, which he has used on many people before and undoubtedly will again.
no, I said the reporter asked trump if he heard her nasty comments"
and yes, her comments were "nasty comments my opinion
exactly... have fun with that. and the drama queens will all rejoice with you.
cheers
I can see there is no purpose in trying to appeal to logic or facts.
logic? LOL
The Sun: "Is it good having an American princess though, Mr. President?"
Trump: "I think it's nice. I think it's nice. I'm sure she'll do excellently. She'll be very good. She'll be very good. I hope she does."
but all you care about is trump said the word nasty when speaking about her "comments"... OMG and suddenly your hair is on fire
again... focus...
Trump: "I think it's nice. I think it's nice. I'm sure she'll do excellently. She'll be very good. She'll be very good. I hope she does."
but, OMG trump said the word nasty when talking about her comments.... ahhhhhhhhh.... LOL
john. to be honest here. as a "deplorable who is apparently "in a basket, I only find your concerns laughable. not logical.
Facts do not appeal to you. I get it.
your bs manufactured drama and outrage do not appeal to me john.
trump remarked her comments were nasty and they were
but when trump complimented her?
The Sun: "Is it good having an American princess though, Mr. President?"
Trump: "I think it's nice. I think it's nice. I'm sure she'll do excellently. She'll be very good. She'll be very good. I hope she does."
you ignore the shit out of that... LOL
orange man bad
" No, I didn't know that she was nasty. "
I suppose you can forgive "the most stupid" for believing that considering that is what the President said whether or not it's what he meant.
In English grammar , a subject is one of the two main parts of a sentence . (The other main part is the predicate.) The subject is sometimes called the naming part of a sentence or clause. The subject usually appears before the predicate to show (a) what the sentence is about, or (b) who or what performs the action.
" No, I didn't know that she was nasty. "
The subject may be just a single word: a noun or a pronoun. In this first example, the proper noun Felix is the subject of the sentence:
In the next example, the personal pronoun he is the subject:
Adjectives are words that describe the qualities or states of being of nouns: enormous, doglike, silly, yellow, fun, fast . They can also describe the quantity of nouns: many, few, millions, eleven
So in that sentence, disappointing Donald said " No, I didn't know that she was nasty" making "She" the subject and "nasty" the adjective to describe the subject. The fact that he made the assessment that "she was nasty" based upon something she had said in the past is immaterial.
So factually, the half-wit Donald Trump did call Meghan "nasty". The excuse being used by his sycophants to defend him appears to be that Trump is so stupid and so bad at grammar and communication that he really meant "Meghan's 'comments' were nasty".
when you figure out the difference between calling someone nasty and commenting about their nasty comments.... get back to me about those so-called facts.
no one has to agree if her comments fit their definition of nasty or not.
he never called her nasty = fact
he was talking about the bitches comments.. not the person.
little miss I will leave the country... LOL good riddance.
It shows the context clearly and it's obvious to any objective observer that he was referring to the comments she made about him not to her as a person. Get over it already.
Don't forget stupid and mendacious.... By the way, quoting things he said after calling her nasty doesn't remove the fact that he first called her nasty. This is what truly nasty, back-biting POSes like your Dirtbag do.
The left using the public education system has been engaged in a systematic dumbing down of America for many decades. The people know nothing of our founding principles and thus no longer believe in the importance of individualism and the sovereignty of the individual. Instead they willingly embrace being slaves of the state and no personal responsibility or accountability
thats how we get all these Marxist statists in government from both parties.
Marxists, statists, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah . . .
Did you home school your children?
The truth really seems to bother you
do you deny we live under statist forced collectivism and redistribution of wealth?
do you deny we have a progressive income tax and estate taxes which Marx stated were essential to destroy capitalism?
the 16th amendment imposing the income tax turned us from sovereign free citizens into subjects of the state. When the state determines how much of what you earn that you can keep, you are no longer a free person.
when we redistributewhat others have earned and give it to those who did not earn it, how is that not Marx’s “from each according to their ability, to each according to their need”
Most of Marx's steps to transition from Capitalism to Communism found in Section II, Proletarians and Communists of the Communist Manifesto have already become law and policy (words in parenthesis are my comments)
Chapter II. Proletarians and Communists
The Communist revolution is the most radical rupture with traditional property relations; no wonder that its development involved the most radical rupture with traditional ideas.
But let us have done with the bourgeois objections to Communism.
We have seen above, that the first step in the revolution by the working class is to raise the proletariat to the position of ruling class to win the battle of democracy.
The proletariat will use its political supremacy to wrest, by degree, all capital from the bourgeoisie, to centralise all instruments of production in the hands of the State, i.e., of the proletariat organised as the ruling class; and to increase the total productive forces as rapidly as possible.
Of course, in the beginning, this cannot be effected except by means of despotic inroads on the rights of property, and on the conditions of bourgeois production; by means of measures, therefore, which appear economically insufficient and untenable, but which, in the course of the movement, outstrip themselves, necessitate further inroads upon the old social order, and are unavoidable as a means of entirely revolutionising the mode of production.
These measures will, of course, be different in different countries.
Nevertheless, in most advanced countries, the following will be pretty generally applicable.
A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.
Abolition of property in land and application of all rents of land to public purposes. (eminent domain)
Abolition of all rights of inheritance. (estate tax)
Centralization of credit in the banks of the state, by means of a national bank with state capital and an exclusive monopoly. (Federal Reserve)
Centralization of the means of communication and transport in he hands of the state. (FCC & Dept Of Transportation)
Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the state; the bringing into cultivation of waste lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan. (AIG, GM, Dept of Agriculture, OSHA, EPA)
Equal obligation of all to work. Establishment of industrial armies, especially for agriculture. (unionism)
Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of all the distinction between town and country by a more equable distribution of the populace over the country. (urbanization)
Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children's factory labor in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production, etc (John Dewey a communist and founder of American Public Schools -Dewey considered "the great task of the school" to be "to counteract and transform those domestic and neighborhood tendencies" which he specifically and accurately identified as "the influence of home and Church." In order for Dewey's "progressive" agenda to advance, the moral authority of "home and Church" would have to be undermined and replaced with the authority of the state.)
“The bourgeois family will vanish as a matter of course when its complement vanishes, and both will vanish with the vanishing of capital. (homosexual marriage, feminism)
“seek to end all religious belief and practice (which is a common sentiment here by the socialists)
You object to education for all children and oppose abolition of children working in factories. How 18th century of you.
You are an extremist pastor. By definition extremists are out of mainstream thinking. Have fun flailing away against the modern world.
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You love twisting and lying.
i oppose our Marxist public education system, not education itself.
as to child labor, I oppose government controlling what is a family decision. I began working at age 12 andby age 16 was working 60 hours a week while in high school to help my mom keep our home and support my siblings. I’m glad I did it andwould do it again. Only totalitarian governments control the decisions families make on education and work
Yes and they all have degrees. One is a senior Vice President of a Fortune 100 company. One is a multi-millionaire solely by his own efforts.
I neither lied, or twisted, and of course, you know it.
You listed both free public education and child labor laws as programs that would bring on Marxist tyranny. There is no doubt that you have extremist positions . Just accept it and have your little fun here as Newstalkers so kindly allows you to do.
Of course you did. You claimed I oppose education itself
Government control over families including education and economic decisions is the extremist position,. But those like yourself who actually like being slaves of the state can’t see that. You prefer to be like the house slave who feels superior to the field slaves and chides them for not appreciating how good “massa” is to them.
I quoted you. So I take it for granted when one sentence later I mention education that we are talking about what I quoted. How would most kids get educated if it were not "free" (paid through taxes) for most people. Do you think everyone has the luxury to home school their kids?
The reason we outlawed child labor is because greedy factory owners and mine owners would work 9 and 10 year olds until they fell over. Most people want something better than that for their children.
Private education and home schooling. Statist believe that only the state through forced collectivism can accomplish anything good.
again on child labor, it’s not the role of government to determine what is in their best self interest. I believe in the sovereignty of free individuals and families to make those decisions, not a totalitarian state
Luckily for abused children - and the ability of non home-schooled kids to find decent jobs - your views aren't how our government works.
Another lover of enslavement to the state
A little truth from 1850 against the forced statist collectivism of socialist control that youand others love
Frederic Bastiat in his famous Treatise, The Law in 1850
“Socialism, like the ancient ideas from which it springs, confuses the distinction between government and society. As a result of this, every time we object to a thing being done by government, the socialists conclude that we object to its being done at all. We disapprove of state education. Then the socialists say that we are opposed to any education. We object to a state religion. Then the socialists say that we want no religion at all. We object to a state-enforced equality. Then they say that we are against equality. And so on, and so on. It is as if the socialists were to accuse us of not wanting persons to eat because we do not want the state to raise grain"
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I don't believe you. How do you like them apples?
Private education is fine for those who can afford it but most people cannot. Most private education comes with religious opinions attached. Homeschooling is a failure except for a few cases where the parents are well-educated themselves. We have public education because it is the most pragmatic way to properly educate a population. This is why post k-12 education should also be subsidized because K-12 isn't enough education in the 21st century if the US is to remain a first world nation and an economic power.
A child doesn't have the power or knowledge to determine what is in their best interst. They are to be in school learning instead of being abused as underpaid labor in a factory. A rational society cannot allow a business to abuse children for their goal of profit.
Nobody is enslaved to the state, despite your libertarian hyperbole. We are rational and pragmatic people who understand that we are part of a much, larger interconnected and interdependent society and it is in our best interest to cooperate. The government exists to further that goal of supporting the society for the well being of the people.
The "luxury", certainly. It's simply a financial decision people make.
The "capability", certainly not. Parents are the least qualified people to educate children. Every education statute since the Massachusetts Bay Colony General School Law of 1647 has been a steady march toward saving children from the stupidity of their parents.
Give him a break, Tess. He's only ever learned one note, it's flat and he's got a tin ear. Have some compassion.
And Goebbels rejoices.
I didn't know you had a flair for self-mockery, LFOD. Maybe there's hope for you yet.
I disagree. He is just revealing how stupid the human race is.
Exactly. He is the symptom, not the cause.
"Trump Is Making Our Entire Culture Stupid"
Nah .….. smart phones armed with "YOUTWITFACE" accomplished that all by themselves.
It is kind of funny that the people that are making this claim are the same people that in 2016 told us everybody needs to accept the outcome of the election. Then didn't when it didn't go their way..
This same group of people told us that we should accept the results of the Meuller investigation, then didn't when it didn't go their way.
Many of the above mentioned people are career politicians who claim every problem is because of Trump despite the problems existing long before Trump coming into the political arena.