LGBT+ pride marches in US interrupted by neo-Nazis and stampede

  
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LGBT+ pride marches in US interrupted by neo-Nazis and stampede

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LGBT+ pride marches in US interrupted by neo-Nazis and stampede



102b4830-25c0-11e7-a66a-23957430fe89_lat Tom Embury-Dennis,The Independent Sun, Jun 9 5:05 AM EDT
Two separate LGBT pride marches disrupted by neo-Nazis, stampede

Separate LGBT+ pride marches in the US were disrupted on Saturday, one by a stampede triggered over fears of a shooting and another by one of America’s biggest neo-Nazi groups.

In Washington DC, seven people were taken to hospital after fears of a potential gunman at the pride event sparked panic.

Hundreds of people were gathered at the Dupont Circle for the parade when people started running after hearing what they thought was a gunshot.

"As the officers were going to the scene, there was a crowd of people going away from it and some of the individuals in the crowd said there was a man with a gun and that someone had fired a shot," said Guillermo Rivera, a commander with the Metropolitan Police Department.

A man was taken into custody and is facing a gun possession charge, he said.

Mayor Muriel Bowser tweeted that she had been briefed by police and there were "no shots fired".

Elizabeth Hernandez, 19, was among those celebrating in the city when she said she heard "pop, pop" and suddenly barricades were being thrown over and a crowd of people starting running frantically from the area.

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"Everything fell and everyone said 'Run!"' said Ms Hernandez, of Falls Church, Virginia.

In Detroit, an armed white supremacist group called the National Socialist Movement (NSM) descended on the annual Motor City Pride Festival, where they held placards, gave Nazi salutes and displayed armbands with swastikas.

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Photos from the event, which was attended by thousands of LGBT+ supporters, showed a group of around 10 neo-Nazis marching surrounded by police officers.

Dressed in black with a number carrying firearms and shields, the NSM marchers tore apart pride flags and pushed over at least one counter-demonstrator. One even appeared to urinate on an Israeli flag.

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“Literally f****** Nazis are at Motor City Pride right now, please be safe out there y’all,” one user tweeted on Saturday afternoon. “Even if they deserve it, do not engage. Our safety at our Pride is the most important thing.”

Meanwhile, in Poland, central and eastern Europe’s biggest pride parade went ahead without major incident, despite rising tensions in the country over the rights of LGBT+ people.

Tens of thousands of people, accompanied by diplomats from the US, Canada and other western countries, took to the streets of Warsaw on Saturday at a time when the Polish government is depicting the LGBT+ community as a threat.

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In a first, the Polish capital's mayor also participated. Opening the parade, Warsaw mayor Rafal Trzaskowski noted it is now common for cities across Europe to support pride marches.

"Not everyone has to go to the Equality Parade but everyone should respect minority rights," Mr Trzaskowski told the crowd from a parade float. "It's really important for me that Warsaw be open, that Warsaw be tolerant."

City Hall said some 47,000 people took part.

Additional reporting by agencies



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Tessylo
1  seeder  Tessylo    2 months ago

Photos from the event, which was attended by thousands of LGBT+ supporters, showed a group of around 10 neo-Nazis marching surrounded by police officers.

Dressed in black with a number carrying firearms and shields, the NSM marchers tore apart pride flags and pushed over at least one counter-demonstrator. One even appeared to urinate on an Israeli flag.

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“Literally f****** Nazis are at Motor City Pride right now, please be safe out there y’all,” one user tweeted on Saturday afternoon. “Even if they deserve it, do not engage. Our safety at our Pride is the most important thing.”

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
1.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  Tessylo @1    2 months ago

But it;s the liberals that cause the violence and destroy property. At least that's what I've been told by certain parties here at Newstalkers

 
 
 
Cerenkov
1.1.1  Cerenkov  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.1    2 months ago

Yep. But you knew your claim was specious. 

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
1.1.2  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.1    2 months ago
But it;s the liberals that cause the violence and destroy property.

If it were some Antifa member pissing on the flag of Israel you'd have every religious conservative republican here screaming "anti-Semite Liberals!" and trying to tie all Democrats to it. And what do we hear from them when it's likely a religious conservative alt-right Neo-Nazi? Nothing but deflection, distraction and claims about how there are hardly any of these kinds of right wing psychos.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
1.1.3  Trout Giggles  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @1.1.2    2 months ago

Yes, I know. And I'm fucking sick and tired of it.

Now here comes a pearl clutcher to complain about my language jrSmiley_99_smiley_image.jpg

 
 
 
Jack_TX
1.1.4  Jack_TX  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @1.1.2    2 months ago
Nothing but deflection, distraction and claims about how there are hardly any of these kinds of right wing psychos.

How many were at the parade?

Oh...that's right... ten.

Clearly the movement is sweeping America.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
1.1.5  seeder  Tessylo  replied to  Jack_TX @1.1.4    2 months ago

Like I said, 10 nazi scum is 10 too many.

 
 
 
epistte
1.1.6  epistte  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.5    2 months ago
Like I said, 10 nazi scum is 10 too many.

America was a much better place to live when the Pentagon would give medals out for people who gunned down these racist losers, preferably with the least ammunition expended.

Why is it that conservatives align with racist losers such as the CSA/Klan and Nazis? It's almost as if racism, insurrection, and treason are a cornerstone of conservatism. 

 
 
 
Jack_TX
1.1.7  Jack_TX  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.5    2 months ago
Like I said, 10 nazi scum is 10 too many.

It's certainly more than I care for.  But the idea that it's a large number is lunacy.

 
 
 
Tessylo
1.1.8  seeder  Tessylo  replied to  Jack_TX @1.1.7    2 months ago

They are widespread across the country and the 'president' has given them legitimacy. 

Any nazi scum is too many

 
 
 
Jack_TX
1.1.9  Jack_TX  replied to  epistte @1.1.6    2 months ago
America was a much better place to live when the Pentagon would give medals out for people who gunned down these racist losers, preferably with the least ammunition expended.

You're really advocating shooting American citizens because of their political views?  Is the idea to make the Nazis look like the favorable alternative?

Why is it that conservatives align with racist losers such as the CSA/Klan and Nazis? It's almost as if racism, insurrection, and treason are a cornerstone of conservatism. 

I think they align with conservatives, not vice versa.  The same way Antifa do with liberals.

 
 
 
epistte
1.1.10  epistte  replied to  Jack_TX @1.1.9    2 months ago
You're really advocating shooting American citizens because of their political views?  Is the idea to make the Nazis look like the favorable alternative?

That is not what I am saying. I am saying the US was a better place when the Nazis weren't so tolerated in public.  Nazis should have been shot on the battlefield. 

I think they align with conservatives, not vice versa. 

The Antifa(anti-fascism) only exists as a response to Neo-Nazis and the Alt-Right. It's a situation of cause and effect.

The same way Antifa do with liberals.

Are you suggesting that you do not oppose fascism?

 
 
 
Jack_TX
1.1.11  Jack_TX  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.8    2 months ago
They are widespread across the country and the 'president' has given them legitimacy. 

Are they?  Why do we think so?  What actual data exists?  

There were 200 in Charlottesville, gathered from across the country.  If your nationwide network can only turn out 200, how big can it be?  You get more people than that at a Chamber of Commerce golf tournament. 

Any nazi scum is too many

I agree.  But 10 morons dressing up like characters from a British comedy isn't enough for me to care about.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
1.1.12  Jack_TX  replied to  epistte @1.1.10    2 months ago
The Antifa(anti-fascism) only exists as a response to Neo-Nazis and the Alt-Right. It's a situation of cause and effect.

It's a situation of chicken and egg and who begets whom.

Are you suggesting that you do not oppose fascism?

I am stating openly that Antifa has nothing at all to do with anti-fascism, despite what they may claim. 

 
 
 
KDMichigan
1.1.13  KDMichigan  replied to  Jack_TX @1.1.9    2 months ago
Is the idea to make the Nazis look like the favorable alternative?

Well she already has tried to revise history claiming there was no gay Nazi's. It seemed to upset her to suggest that there was open gays in the Nazi [party]

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epistte
1.1.14  epistte  replied to  KDMichigan @1.1.13    2 months ago
Well she already has tried to revise history claiming there was no gay Nazi's. It seemed to upset her to suggest that there was open gays in the Nazi party. I'm sensing Nazi sentiments....

You continue to blatantly misrepresent and twist what I said.

You found a grand total of 1 gay Nazi and he was killed, so the Nazis were far from being LGBT friendly.  LGBT people in Germany and occupied countries were rounded up as undesirables, given a pink triangle and put in concentration camps to be tortured or killed. 

One day in May 1933, pristine white-shirted students marched in front of Berlin’s Institute for Sexual Research – that safe haven for LGBTQ people – calling it “Un-German.” Later, a mob hauled out its library to be burned. Later still, its acting head was arrested.

When Nazi leader Adolph Hitler needed to justify arresting and murdering former political allies in 1934, he said they were gay. This fanned anti-gay zealotry by the Gestapo, which opened a special anti-gay branch. During the following year alone, the Gestapo arrested more than 8,500 gay men, quite possibly using a list of names and addresses seized at the Institute for Sexual Research. Not only was Paragraph 175 not erased, as a parliamentary committee had recommended just a few years before, it was amended to be more expansive and punitive.

As the Gestapo spread throughout Europe, it expanded the hunt. In Vienna, it hauled in every gay man on police lists and questioned them, trying to get them to name others. The fortunate ones went to jail. The less fortunate went to Buchenwald and Dachau. In conquered France, Alsace police worked with the Gestapo to arrest at least 200 men and send them to concentration camps. Italy, with a fascist regime obsessed with virility, sent at least 300 gay men to brutal camps during the war period, declaring them “dangerous for the integrity of the race.”

The total number of Europeans arrested for being LGBTQ under fascism is impossible to know because of the lack of reliable records. But a conservative estimate is that there were many tens of thousands to one hundred thousand arrests during the war period alone.

Under these nightmare conditions, far more LGBTQ people in Europe painstakingly hid their genuine sexuality to avoid suspicion, marrying members of the opposite sex, for example. Still, if they had been prominent members of the gay and trans community before the fascists came to power, as Berlin lesbian club owner Lotte Hahm was, it was too late to hide. She was sent to a concentration camp.

In those camps, gay men were marked with a pink triangle. In these places of horror, men with pink triangles were singled out for particular abuse. They were mechanically raped, castrated, favored for medical experiments and murdered for guards’ sadistic pleasure even when they were not sentenced for “liquidation.” One gay man attributed his survival to swapping his pink triangle for a red one – indicating he was merely a Communist. They were ostracized and tormented by their fellow inmates, too.

http://theconversation.com/how-the-nazis-destroyed-the-first-gay-rights-movement-80354

 
 
 
MrFrost
1.1.15  MrFrost  replied to  Jack_TX @1.1.4    2 months ago
Oh...that's right... ten. Clearly the movement is sweeping America.  

Do you seriously think there are only 10 in the entire country? 

Like I asked someone else...

How many will it take for you to say it's wrong? 

 
 
 
livefreeordie
1.1.16  livefreeordie  replied to  MrFrost @1.1.15    2 months ago

Nazism is clearly wrong but there is no evidence that there are very many in this country. I’ve never seen or met one.  One I agree istoo many

 
 
 
MUVA
1.1.17  MUVA  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.5    2 months ago

Ten is to many for sure.

 
 
 
MUVA
1.1.18  MUVA  replied to  livefreeordie @1.1.16    2 months ago

Exactly I condemn everyone of of them I'm equally as sicked by leftist.

 
 
 
MrFrost
1.1.19  MrFrost  replied to  livefreeordie @1.1.16    2 months ago

Holy shit Larry, probably the first time in a decade I have voted you up. Mark it on the calendar. 

 
 
 
Jack_TX
1.1.20  Jack_TX  replied to  MrFrost @1.1.15    2 months ago
Do you seriously think there are only 10 in the entire country? 

Of course not.  But the math is obvious to anybody whose brain is in control of their emotions.  Thousands of people turn out for the pride rally.  The Nazis can only muster 10.  Yet some myopic morons that can't help but fixate on whatever shiny object is in front of them at the moment...because...."feelings".

So let's be sure we don't do something sensible like laugh at these assholes and point out the fact that the Nazis are actually the ones hiding behind the police wall.  Yes....that's right... the "tough guy" Nazis are afraid of the gay people.  Awwww.  Poor babies.  Is that man in the dress scaring you? 

Like I asked someone else... How many will it take for you to say it's wrong? 

I have said so.  Twice in this section of comments alone.  

 
 
 
Galen Marvin Ross
1.1.21  Galen Marvin Ross  replied to  Jack_TX @1.1.9    2 months ago
You're really advocating shooting American citizens because of their political views? 

Are you saying racism and, bigotry is POLITICAL? Try again, it is a human rights issue.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
1.1.22  Jack_TX  replied to  Galen Marvin Ross @1.1.21    2 months ago
Are you saying racism and, bigotry is POLITICAL? Try again, it is a human rights issue.

Whose human rights are they violating?

 
 
 
Galen Marvin Ross
1.1.23  Galen Marvin Ross  replied to  Jack_TX @1.1.22    2 months ago
Whose human rights are they violating?

The peoples at the Pride Parade. It's too bad you don't get it, in fact it's really sad.

 
 
 
Tessylo
1.1.24  seeder  Tessylo  replied to  Jack_TX @1.1.20    2 months ago

The Facts on White Nationalism

By Robert Farley

Posted on March 20, 2019

In the wake of the attack on two New Zealand mosques, President Donald Trump said he did not see white nationalism as a rising threat around the world, but rather “a small group of people that have very, very serious problems.”

Experts, however, say there are a number of indicators that suggest white nationalism and white supremacy — and violence inspired by them — are on the rise, in the U.S. and around the world.

  • The Southern Poverty Law Center reports a dramatic increase in the number of white nationalist groups in the U.S., from 100 chapters in 2017 to 148 in 2018.
  • The Anti-Defamation League reports a 182 percent increase in incidents of the distribution of white supremacist propaganda, and an increase in the number of rallies and demonstrations by white supremacy groups, from 76 in 2017 to 91 in 2018.
  • A study by the Center for Strategic and International Studies found the number of terrorist attacks by far-right perpetrators quadrupled in the U.S. between 2016 and 2017, and that far-right attacks in Europe rose 43 percent over the same period. Among those incidents, CSIS states, the rise of attacks by white supremacists and anti-government extremists is “of particular concern.”

The issue of white nationalism came to the forefront after a gunman opened fire at two mosques in New Zealand on March 15, killing at least 50 people. In a manifesto posted by the alleged shooter, he describes himself as an “ordinary white man” whose goal was to “crush immigration and deport those invaders already living on our soil” and “ensure the existence of our people, and a future for white children.” In it, he answers the question of whether he is a supporter of Trump: “As a symbol of renewed white identity and common purpose? Sure. As a policy maker and leader? Dear god no.”

When a reporter told Trump on March 15 about the reference in the manifesto, Trump condemned the attack, which he described as “a horrible, disgraceful thing and a horrible act.”

The president was also asked by a reporter whether he saw “today, white nationalism as a rising threat around the world.”

“I don’t really,” Trump replied. “I think it’s a small group of people that have very, very serious problems. I guess if you look at what happened in New Zealand, perhaps that’s the case. I don’t know enough about it yet. They’re just learning about the person and the people involved. But it’s certainly a terrible thing.”

Shortly after Trump made his comment, a reporter asked New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern whether she agreed with Trump’s belief that “he did not think white supremacy worldwide was a problem that was rising in any way.”

“No,” Ardern responded tersely.

On CNN’s “State of the Union” on March 17, Democratic Rep. Rashida Tlaib said Trump “needs to pick up the phone and call the Department of Justice.”

Tlaib, March 17: There’s real data and information currently right now of the rise of white supremacy right here in this United States of America. He needs to look at the data and the information and the facts and actually listen and understand the tremendous responsibility he has in being our president, our leader of our country.

He cannot just say it’s a small group of people. There’s too many deaths, not only from the synagogue to the black churches to the temples to the — now the mosques. We need to be speaking up against this, and it has to start with him reiterating the importance of real information and data that says it’s on the rise.

You can’t just say it isn’t, when the facts say the complete opposite.

So, what do the data show?

Justice Department Hate Crime Statistics

Let’s start with the Justice Department’s FBI data on hate crimes, since that was specifically referenced by Tlaib.

According to the FBI, there were 7,175 hate crime incidents in 2017, a 17 percent increase from 2016 and the third year in a row with an increase. The number of incidents in 2017 was also the highest yearly total since 2008. About 58 percent of the hate crimes in 2017 were motivated by race/ethnicity/ancestry.

Digging deeper into the numbers, anti-black or African American hate crime rose 16 percent to 2,013 incidents in 2017; anti-Hispanic incidents rose 24 percent, with 427 incidents; anti-Arab crimes doubled to 102 incidents. Anti-Jewish hate crime incidents also rose 37 percent to 938 in 2017, but anti-Islamic hate crimes dipped 11 percent to 273.

Experts, however, caution that the FBI’s hate crime statistics are an imperfect way to track the rise of white nationalism. Not all of the hate crimes overall were committed by white nationalists (some of the documented incidents, for example, were anti-white). The data do not identify the perpetrators that way.

There was also an increase in the number of agencies participating in reporting hate crimes to the FBI and a subsequent increase in the population covered of 5.7 percent between 2016and 2017. So some of the increase is likely tied to that alone.

Issues also have been raised about inconsistencies in the ways different jurisdictions report hate crimes, which skews the data. There are clearly differences in reporting standards used by different agencies, Heidi Beirich, who leads the Southern Poverty Law Center’s Intelligence Project, told us. She noted, for example, that there was just one assault reported as a hate crime in Alabama in 2017, compared with 242 in California — which she said suggests hate crimes are under-reported in Alabama.

Beirich said there is a lot of evidence pointing to a rising threat from white nationalism, but, she said, “I’m not sure FBI hate crime statistics prove the point.” She notes that a Department of Justice crime victimization survey in 2015 found “U.S. residents experienced an average of 250,000 hate crime victimizations each year from 2004 to 2015.” But the survey does not show trends over time, Beirich said.

FBI hate crime data “doesn’t fit into a neat package” when it comes to tracking the threat of white nationalism, John D. Cohen, a former counterterrorism coordinator and acting under secretary for intelligence and analysis of the U.S. Department of Homeland Security under President Barack Obama, told us in a phone interview. But Cohen, who also served in the Office of the Director of National Intelligence under President George W. Bush, agrees there are other, more telling measures.

“There is pretty broad agreement among law enforcement in the U.S. and the European Union that violence as a result of far-right groups, particularly white supremacists, is on the rise,” said Cohen, who is currently a professor at Rutgers-Newark. “It’s a growing problem. We are seeing more hate crimes and targeted attacks by people who identify with that ideology.”

Number of Groups Rising

The Montgomery, Alabama-based Southern Poverty Law Center, which tracks domestic extremism, last month reported a 7 percent rise in hate groups in the U.S. in 2018, with 1,020 groups identified. White nationalist groups, specifically, surged nearly 50 percent, growing from 100 chapters in 2017 to 148 in 2018.

Last year marked the fourth year in a row that the number of hate groups increased, after a short period of decline. The rise, SPLC says, was fueled by political polarization, anti-immigrant views and the ease of spreading those ideologies through the internet.

Beirich noted that Alexa web traffic analytics show the neo-Nazi Daily Stormer site now gets about 4.3 million page views a month.

“More and more people are interested in their ideas,” she said.

In an ABC News/Washington Post poll taken just after the Charlottesville rally in August 2017, 9 percent of the respondents said they thought it was strongly or somewhat acceptable to hold neoNazi or white supremacist views. As ABC News reported at the time, that’s equivalent to about 22 million Americans.

Rise in Propaganda/Rallies

The Anti-Defamation League, meanwhile, reports that white supremacy groups have stepped up their propaganda efforts.

“ADL’s Center on Extremism (COE) continues to track an ever-growing number of white supremacist propaganda efforts, including the distribution of racist, anti-Semitic and Islamophobic fliers, stickers, banners and posters,” according to a recent ADL report. “The 2018 data shows a 182% increase of incidents from the previous year, with 1,187 cases reported, compared to 421 in 2017.”

The group said that level of activity far exceeded any of its previous distribution counts.

The ADL also reported that the number of racist rallies and demonstrations rose last year. “At least 91 white supremacist rallies or other public events attended by white supremacist were held in 2018, up from 76 the previous year, with hate groups increasingly employing ‘flash mob’ tactics to avoid advance publicity and scrutiny,” the ADL reported.

“We are seeing an increase in the public expression of far right, white supremacist ideological viewpoints,” Cohen told us. “It is more open in its expression, both online and in protests like in Charlottesville.”

Other Evidence

Cohen said he prefers to look at the issue from the perspective of an overall threat assessment. In today’s climate, he said, it’s not just a matter of tabulating the number of members of various white nationalist groups. The internet and social media have changed the game. People self-connect with ideologies espoused by hate groups online. They often act independently of those groups, he said, though they may be inspired by their messages.

So while the number of white nationalists could have remained steady, the threat they pose may be increasing, Cohen said. Whereas people with these ideas used to be isolated geographically, they are now able via the web to reach people who are disaffected and mentally unwell, inspiring them to commit violent acts.

A November report called “The Rise of Far-Right Extremism in the United States” from the Center for Strategic and International Studies found that “the number of terrorist attacks by far-right perpetrators rose over the past decade, more than quadrupling between 2016 and 2017. … There has also been a rise in far-right attacks in Europe, jumping 43 percent between 2016 and 2017.”

“The threat from right-wing terrorism in the United States—and Europe—appears to be rising,” wrote the report’s author, Seth G. Jones. “Of particular concern are white supremacists and anti-government extremists, such as militia groups and so-called sovereign citizens interested in plotting attacks against government, racial, religious, and political targets in the United States.”

Another indicator is the perception among minority groups about the threat they face. Cohen pointed to a December 2018 report from the European Union Agency for Fundamental Rights that surveyed nearly 16,500 individuals who identify as being Jewish from 12 European Union countries and found widespread fear of being targeted for harassment and attacks.

Trump may be correct that those who are members of white nationalist groups, compared with the overall population, are a “small group of people,” Cohen said. If one looks at the number of gun crimes in the U.S., for example, the number of violent attacks carried out by white nationalists is a relatively small subset, he said. But law enforcement officials are concerned about the rising threat of white nationalists, their growing influence through social media and the devastating impact hate-inspired attacks have on the public.

The House Judiciary Committee plans to hold a hearing in April on the rise of white nationalism in the U.S. According to the Daily Beast, “the committee expects to bring in officials from within DHS and the FBI for questioning on the rise of white nationalism in the U.S and the efforts the agencies are currently adopting to combat it.”

 
 
 
Tessylo
1.1.25  seeder  Tessylo  replied to  MUVA @1.1.18    2 months ago

'Exactly I condemn everyone of of them I'm equally as sicked by leftist.'

So you're as sickened by Nazis and white nationalists as you are of leftists?

Wow.  

 
 
 
Jack_TX
1.1.26  Jack_TX  replied to  Galen Marvin Ross @1.1.23    2 months ago
The peoples at the Pride Parade.

How so?  What actual rights were violated? 

It's too bad you don't get it, in fact it's really sad.

It's called "objectivity".  You should try it sometime.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
1.1.27  Jack_TX  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.24    2 months ago
“a small group of people that have very, very serious problems.”

The man is almost never right.... but....

  • The Southern Poverty Law Center reports a dramatic increase in the number of white nationalist groups in the U.S., from 100 chapters in 2017 to 148 in 2018.
  • The Anti-Defamation League reports a 182 percent increase in incidents of the distribution of white supremacist propaganda, and an increase in the number of rallies and demonstrations by white supremacy groups, from 76 in 2017 to 91 in 2018.

So.  Exactly.  A small group of people that have very, very serious problems. 

148 chapters of nutjobs around the country.  If they average 50 people per group (which I highly doubt), that's less than 7500 nutjobs nationwide.  Not enough to fill a high school football game in Texas.

 
 
 
Tacos!
1.2  Tacos!  replied to  Tessylo @1    2 months ago

Might be able to get that guy on a charge of urinating in public. Incredibly, he seems to have a couple of accomplices who could be charged, too.

 
 
 
Tessylo
2  seeder  Tessylo    2 months ago

Fucking  nazi scum.  

 
 
 
MrFrost
2.1  MrFrost  replied to  Tessylo @2    2 months ago

You tell'em Tessy...

512

 
 
 
Tessylo
2.1.1  seeder  Tessylo  replied to  MrFrost @2.1    2 months ago

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MrFrost
2.1.2  MrFrost  replied to  Tessylo @2.1.1    2 months ago

Holy crap, I never actually read the small print on that meme... Funny as hell. 

 
 
 
Tacos!
2.1.3  Tacos!  replied to  MrFrost @2.1    2 months ago

Another example of why we can't have nice things. Now it's going to be awkward to buy a freakin' tiki torch.

 
 
 
bugsy
2.1.4  bugsy  replied to  Tacos! @2.1.3    2 months ago

Especially if you need 4 for your backyard party and you go to the checkout with your wife and 2 kids.

 
 
 
MUVA
2.2  MUVA  replied to  Tessylo @2    2 months ago

nazi's fuck off.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
3  Greg Jones    2 months ago

Perhaps it is better for the rainbow crowd to stay home or do something useful, instead of trying to incite riots.

Gays are fighting a battle they have already won.

 
 
 
Ender
3.1  Ender  replied to  Greg Jones @3    2 months ago
 
 
 
Tacos!
3.1.1  Tacos!  replied to  Ender @3.1    2 months ago

I actually love this. Not sure I want to be putting duct tape on my truck, though. Maybe the window . . . I have something to think about today.

 
 
 
Ender
3.1.2  Ender  replied to  Tacos! @3.1.1    2 months ago

Yeah but the paintjob don't look all that great anyway.  Haha

I thought he was rather brave, considering where he is from.

I love the saying he put on there.

 
 
 
Tacos!
3.1.3  Tacos!  replied to  Ender @3.1.2    2 months ago

According to his FB page, it's duct tape. I have a conditioned aversion to putting sticky stuff on a vehicle's paint.

 
 
 
Transyferous Rex
3.1.4  Transyferous Rex  replied to  Ender @3.1.2    2 months ago
I thought he was rather brave, considering where he is from.

That's funny. Don't sneak into my food plot, catch and release only at my pond, BYOB (or at least offer to BYOB), treat me with respect despite our differing views. Contrary to what the West and East coast media paints for everyone, you, and many others, might be surprised to find that, by and large, most country boys in Oklahoma don't give a damn about what someone else is doing. Whatever floats your boat. Work hard and play hard? You'll probably get along fine here. 

Brave? Maybe somewhere else, not in Oklahoma. Brave, or possibly cavalier, would be hanging a Hook'em Horns banner across the tailgate during OU/Texas week. Do that, and I'll admit that we do have some crazies that will put a brick through your window. Pride flag? Meh.

Yeah but the paintjob don't look all that great anyway.

There's a Jeff Foxworthy joke here somewhere. Something along the lines of the price tag of the lift kit, rims and tires vs. the vehicle's value. And

 
 
 
Ender
3.1.5  Ender  replied to  Transyferous Rex @3.1.4    2 months ago

I live on a coast but not the east or west.

The man admitted the people around him are not very tolerant.

There's a Jeff Foxworthy joke here somewhere

Haha. True that.

 
 
 
Transyferous Rex
3.1.6  Transyferous Rex  replied to  Ender @3.1.5    2 months ago
The man admitted the people around him are not very tolerant.

I didn't see that in his post. Regardless, intolerance is different than violence. I can honestly see a conversation of his act going like this:

Guy 1: Hey, did you see what Barlow put on the back of his truck?

Guy 2: Yeah, I did. Hey, call him up, and see if it's still too wet to drive down to the bottom.

As an aside. I got twenty that says the bed is coated with Rhino Liner he applied. 

 
 
 
Jack_TX
3.1.7  Jack_TX  replied to  Transyferous Rex @3.1.4    2 months ago
most country boys in Oklahoma don't give a damn about what someone else is doing.

Absolutely.  Unless you're wearing burnt orange, in which case you may have a problem......  jrSmiley_82_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
epistte
3.1.8  epistte  replied to  Jack_TX @3.1.7    2 months ago
Absolutely.  Unless you're wearing burnt orange, in which case you may have a problem...... 

When exactly did they begin to shoot other hunters?

 
 
 
epistte
3.1.9  epistte  replied to  Transyferous Rex @3.1.6    2 months ago
As an aside. I got twenty that says the bed is coated with Rhino Liner he applied. 

I didn't notice that until you mentioned it. You're correct. 

I know where someone put that material on a steel roof to extend its lifespan. 

 
 
 
Jack_TX
3.1.10  Jack_TX  replied to  epistte @3.1.8    2 months ago
When exactly did they begin to shoot other hunters?

That's not burnt orange.  It's sort of neon orange.

Burnt orange is the color of the University of Texas (Longhorns), who are the #1 rival of Oklahoma University (Sooners).  Oklahoma doesn't have pro football, so OU football is taken VERY seriously.

 
 
 
epistte
3.1.11  epistte  replied to  Jack_TX @3.1.10    2 months ago

OSU football is very serious in Ohio among some people, despite the fact that there are two pro teams.

 I ignore all of them.

 
 
 
MUVA
3.1.12  MUVA  replied to  epistte @3.1.11    2 months ago

Watch real football and support Manchester United the greatest football club in the history of the world.

 
 
 
epistte
3.1.13  epistte  replied to  MUVA @3.1.12    2 months ago
Watch real football and support Manchester United the greatest football club in the history of the world.

I don't watch any football, basketball, hockey, baseball or basketball. 

I will watch the occasional cycling event , F1 race and often bits of the 24 hours of LeMans.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
3.1.14  Jack_TX  replied to  MUVA @3.1.12    2 months ago
Watch real football and support Manchester United the greatest football club in the history of the world.

I knew there was a reason I liked you.

*stands and sings boisterously*

Glory, Glory Man United......

 
 
 
Transyferous Rex
3.1.15  Transyferous Rex  replied to  epistte @3.1.9    2 months ago

I think its actually a good product. Probably best used at the start of the vehicle life though. As part of a full disclosure, its not uncommon to see a truck entirely covered in the stuff here. And, apparently we have a habit of waiting until the bed and bed rails get beat up before we decide to apply it. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
3.1.16  seeder  Tessylo  replied to  Transyferous Rex @3.1.15    2 months ago

Let's get back on topic now.

Thanks.

 
 
 
epistte
3.1.17  epistte  replied to  Jack_TX @3.1.14    2 months ago
I knew there was a reason I liked you.

*stands and sings boisterously*

Glory, Glory Man United......

Soccer hooligans.............

 
 
 
epistte
3.1.18  epistte  replied to  Transyferous Rex @3.1.15    2 months ago
I think its actually a good product. Probably best used at the start of the vehicle life though. As part of a full disclosure, its not uncommon to see a truck entirely covered in the stuff here. And, apparently we have a habit of waiting until the bed and bed rails get beat up before we decide to apply it. 

For what it does it seems to work well. It's just ugly.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
3.1.19  Jack_TX  replied to  epistte @3.1.17    2 months ago
Soccer hooligans.............

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Transyferous Rex
3.1.20  Transyferous Rex  replied to  Tessylo @3.1.16    2 months ago

Sure. Don't feed the mouth breathers. I'm not certain how 10 idiots disrupt a gathering of thousands. Apparently, the person warning people not to physically engage them had the right idea. Let the morons be. They are there to get a rise from someone. Don't give them the satisfaction. Seems easy enough. The image of the guy pissing on the flag gets me. What the hell are they there in opposition too? Everything it seems. I'm not in the habit of researching nazi groups, but apparently:

one of America’s biggest neo-Nazi groups.

is around 10 people. Hell, from the accusation, I expected to read about hundreds or maybe thousands of these punks...nope...around 10. 

Candidly, I clicked on this to learn how the events were disrupted. Unfortunately, no details are given on the panic caused by alleged gun shots, other than people were panicking. I had to look elsewhere for more news on that.

The men allegedly sprayed his wife, Melissa Duffy, with mace after she bumped into them. Singh confronted the men, and was hit and maced himself. He then drew his gun on them. https://www.metroweekly.com/2019/06/confirmed-straight-people-ruined-the-capital-pride-parade/

I guess that's why there is not much on the issue in the yahoo story. Singh's reaction clearly uncalled for, but apparently in response to an assault on his wife and himself. The yahoo story leaves quite a bit to the imagination, calculated omission I'm sure. There are conflicting reports as well. Several of the stories indicate that a man watching the macing go down saw what he thought was a gun in Singh's bag. Nothing mentioned about him wielding the gun. I don't support or condone his actions. If he threatened someone with a gun, throw the book at him. 

The other disruption, apparently caused by around 10 nazis...again, not much info. Ripping up flags, pissing on flags. Not sure why they need to carry guns and shields, or really why they feel the need to be there in the first place. But, where's the story? Men showed up in opposition? That's not news. Hell, you might find more people outside of wall-mart, protesting big box stores, and harassing would be shoppers. 

 
 
 
epistte
3.1.21  epistte  replied to  Jack_TX @3.1.19    2 months ago

Is that your Sunday alter-ego? 

Mild-mannered insurance man during the week and horn-wearing soccer hooligan on the weekend? 

 
 
 
Tessylo
3.2  seeder  Tessylo  replied to  Greg Jones @3    2 months ago

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MrFrost
3.3  MrFrost  replied to  Greg Jones @3    2 months ago
Perhaps it is better for the rainbow crowd to stay home or do something useful, instead of trying to incite riots.

What the fuck!!!??? Having a parade is inciting riots now? Maybe these nazi fuckers should stay at home and stop desicrating Jewish flags and bashing people based on their orientation, religious beliefs and skin color?

 
 
 
MrFrost
3.4  MrFrost  replied to  Greg Jones @3    2 months ago
Gays are fighting a battle they have already won.

Who says they are even fighting? Looks like a parade to me. Is that a big trigger for the fascists on the right? Maybe they need a comfort puppy, or a baseball bat to the face. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
3.4.1  seeder  Tessylo  replied to  MrFrost @3.4    2 months ago

'Maybe they need a comfort puppy, or a baseball bat to the face.'

I opt for the latter.  

 
 
 
epistte
3.4.2  epistte  replied to  Tessylo @3.4.1    2 months ago

I remember when we dealt with Nazis with tanks, machine guns, and bombs.   That was when America was great.

 
 
 
Raven Wing
3.4.3  Raven Wing  replied to  MrFrost @3.4    2 months ago
Maybe they need a comfort puppy, or a baseball bat to the face. 

Or maybe something like this fits their mentality;

320

 
 
 
Don Overton
3.4.4  Don Overton  replied to  MrFrost @3.4    2 months ago

Rather a homophobic comment there Greg

 
 
 
MrFrost
3.4.5  MrFrost  replied to  Raven Wing @3.4.3    2 months ago

Very phallic, perfect for those pricks. 

 
 
 
MrFrost
3.5  MrFrost  replied to  Greg Jones @3    2 months ago

So you are seriously defending the neo-nazis? They are pissing on a Jewish flag, in public...and you are seriously blaming the people at the pride parade? 

Holy..

Fucking..

Shit..

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
3.6  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Greg Jones @3    2 months ago
Perhaps it is better for the rainbow crowd to stay home or do something useful, instead of trying to incite riots.

And when 2nd amendment activists are confronted by pacifists calling for universal background checks:

"Perhaps it is better for the NRA crowd to stay home or do something useful, instead of trying to incite riots"

And when pro-Israel groups are confronted by Nazi's:

"Perhaps it is better for the Jewish crowd to stay home or do something useful, instead of trying to incite riots"

And when anti-abortion activists choose to march in solidarity:

"Perhaps it is better for the anti-choice crowd to stay home or do something useful, instead of trying to incite riots"
 
 
 
epistte
3.7  epistte  replied to  Greg Jones @3    2 months ago
Perhaps it is better for the rainbow crowd to stay home or do something useful, instead of trying to incite riots. Gays are fighting a battle they have already won.

Your defense of the Nazis actions is noted.

LGBT people are far from having equal civil rights, despite what you have heard on Fox News or from Rush Limbaugh.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
3.8  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Greg Jones @3    2 months ago

Seriously?  It is the NN skinhead aholes that need to stay home.  They live to incite riots.

 
 
 
Raven Wing
3.8.1  Raven Wing  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @3.8    2 months ago

That is what they are trained to do, and their only intention on showing up anywhere. There is no such thing as 'peaceful' intentions where the neo-Nazis or White Supremacists are concerned. The term 'peace' is a dirty word for them, as they stand and aim for anything but. 

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
4  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh    2 months ago

The Nazis and Gay Pride march organizers agreed to ban Jewish flags and Israeli gay pride flags.  Where the Nazi's protesting or marching with them? 

https://forward.com/fast-forward/425533/dc-dyke-march-bans-jewish-pride-flag/

 
 
 
MrFrost
4.1  MrFrost  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @4    2 months ago

"DC Dyke March"? They wouldn't be biased would they? Naw, I am sure they are legit... /s

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
4.1.1  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  MrFrost @4.1    2 months ago

That is the actual promoted name of the march. That's what the organizers call it every year and the link is from a progressive site.

Not sure what you are talking about.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-forward/

 
 
 
Tacos!
4.2  Tacos!  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @4    2 months ago
The Nazis and Gay Pride march organizers agreed to ban Jewish flags and Israeli gay pride flags.  Where the Nazi's protesting or marching with them? 

There's no pleasing some nazis.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
5  Ed-NavDoc    2 months ago

Hatemongering in any form by any group is wrong and disgusting and a blight on all communities.

 
 
 
MrFrost
5.1  MrFrost  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @5    2 months ago
Hatemongering in any form by any group is wrong and disgusting and a blight on all communities.

Exactly Ed, well said. 

 
 
 
KDMichigan
6  KDMichigan    2 months ago
A man was taken into custody and is facing a gun possession charge, he said.

The man taken into custody, Aftabjit Singh, displayed a BB gun after someone either hit on or hit his lover who knows maybe it was a case of penis envy?

10 Neo-nazi at protesting a gay parade ? OMG stop the press. Maybe some one should inform them that there were prominent members of the Nazi party that were …..Gay.

 
 
 
epistte
6.1  epistte  replied to  KDMichigan @6    2 months ago
10 Neo-nazi at protesting a gay parade ? OMG stop the press. Maybe some one should inform them that there were prominent members of the Nazi party that were …..Gay.

I hate revisionist history!

Those Nazis were not openly gay and proud of it.

The pink triangle emblem in the gay community was originally assigned to LGBT people by the Nazis when they were sent to the concentration camps as undesirables.  

The pink triangle was used by the Nazis in concentration camps to identify and shame homosexuals. This symbol, which was used to label and shame, has been embraced by the gay community as a symbol of pride.

However, in the 1930s & 1940s there was nothing celebratory about the pink triangle. Gays were forced to wear the pink triangle on their breast pockets in the concentration camps to identify them as homosexual to set them apart from other prisoners.

Triangles of various colors were used to identify each category of "undesirable": yellow for Jews, brown of Gypsies, red for political prisoners, green for criminals, black for anti-socials, purple for Jehovah's Witnesses, blue for immigrants, and pink for homosexuals.

The pink triangles were slightly larger than the other colored triangles so that guards could identify them from a distance. It is said that those who wore the pink triangles were singled out by the guards to receive the harshest treatment, and when the guards were finished with them, some of the other inmates would harm them as well.

At the end of the war, when the concentration camps were finally liberated, virtually all of the prisoners were released except those who wore the pink triangle. Many of those with a pink triangle on their pocket were put back in prison and their nightmare continued.

One of the groups that was targeted for extermination by the Nazis continues to be under attack to this day, not just verbally but physically, all over the world: homosexuals. The fact that gays were put in German concentration camps is not known by many. The stories of the survivors reveal an unimaginable cruelty and suffering. It is the same kind of senseless, irrational hatred that still haunts Gays, Jews, Blacks, and other minorities today.

https://www.thepinktriangle.com/history/symbol.html

 
 
 
Tessylo
6.1.1  seeder  Tessylo  replied to  epistte @6.1    2 months ago

'10 Neo-nazi at protesting a gay parade ? OMG stop the press. Maybe some one should inform them that there were prominent members of the Nazi party that were …..Gay.'

So sickening, I agree  epistte.  Some pull that shit from . . . . . . 

 
 
 
epistte
6.1.2  epistte  replied to  Tessylo @6.1.1    2 months ago
So sickening, I agree  epistte.  Some pull that shit from . . . . . .

Stephen Miller must have written this morning's Fox News talking points.

Omar, of course, isn't alone here. Even those close to Miller have made the same observation. Miller's own uncle has said his draconian policies would have doomed their Jewish refugee ancestors to death in pogroms. And actual neo-Nazis see him as advancing their goals: Andrew Anglin of the neo-Nazi website Daily Stormer called Miller "the last person in the White House that has any sense," referring specifically to Miller's anti-immigrant agenda. That's been apparent to those who have worked with him, as well. A White House adviser, referring to images of families being split apart at the border, told Vanity Fair that "Stephen actually enjoys seeing those pictures at the border. He’s a twisted guy, the way he was raised and picked on. There’s always been a way he’s gone about this. He’s Waffen-SS."
 
 
 
KDMichigan
6.1.3  KDMichigan  replied to  epistte @6.1    2 months ago
I hate revisionist history! Those Nazis were not openly gay and proud of it.

No revisionism that would be progressive Liberals that love to practice that.

So what did I say so you can't make up a scenario of what I said.

there were prominent members of the Nazi party that were …..Gay.

And that leads you into a cut and paste about the pink triangle claiming I'm revising history? jrSmiley_10_smiley_image.gif

Why don't you try cut and pasting who Ernst Rohm is and get back with me.

 
 
 
epistte
6.1.4  epistte  replied to  KDMichigan @6.1.3    2 months ago
Why don't you try cut and pasting who Ernst Rohm is and get back with me.

He wasn't executed for being gay. He was executed because he was accused of trying to overthrow Hitler.

In preparation for the purge known as the Night of the Long Knives, both Himmler and Reinhard Heydrich, chief of the SS Security Service, assembled a dossier of manufactured evidence to suggest that Röhm had been paid 12 million Reichsmarks (equivalent to € 48 million 2009) by the government of France to overthrow Hitler.

Are you claiming that the pink triangle didn't originate with the Nazis as a way to identify LGBT people for abuse? 

 
 
 
KDMichigan
6.1.5  KDMichigan  replied to  epistte @6.1.4    2 months ago

I guess you don't want to post what you found eh?

Didn't I say prominent members of the Nazi party were gay before you started in with your I was being a revisionist bullshit?

Here you go...

Röhm was Hitler’s right-hand man as head of the Sturmabteilung (SA, the Brownshirts), the Nazi paramilitary wing. Instrumental in the rise of the party via the street-fighting and extra-judicial murders of the late 1920s and early 1930s, Röhm’s sexual orientation was no secret after the mid-1920s. Hitler either ignored it or said it was immaterial, depending on who he was talking to, including other Nazis. Röhm opposed his party’s stand on Paragraph 175 of the German penal code, which made male homosexual acts illegal. This made some German homosexuals think he might ultimately tone down the Nazi stance. That was always wishful thinking, but became especially moot after 1934’s “Night of the Long Knives,” when Röhm and others were massacred as Hitler consolidated his power. (Earlier, the Social Democrats, one of the few parties to campaign for the repeal of Paragraph 175, showed itself willing to gay-bait Röhm.)

Now you can go and try to spin what I said to get a up vote from Tessy 

Are you claiming that the pink triangle didn't originate with the Nazis as a way to identify LGBT people for abuse?

I never said a thing about the pink triangle, You did. Don't try to put words in my mouth, Major Fail.

original

 
 
 
KDMichigan
6.1.6  KDMichigan  replied to  epistte @6.1.4    2 months ago

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epistte
6.1.7  epistte  replied to  KDMichigan @6.1.5    2 months ago

I had never heard of the guy and had to Wiki his name, so he could not have been a major power in the Nazi party.The Nazi party was not gay friendly.

There are Republicans who are gay but that doesn't mean that the GOP is supportive of the LGBT community.

 
 
 
epistte
6.1.8  epistte  replied to  KDMichigan @6.1.6    2 months ago
And what's fucking Hillaryious is your busting my balls for making fun of the Neo-Nazi's.

Who brought up Hillary Clinton? 

What's the matter do you have some sentimental feeling for their ideology?

Your psychological projection is noted.

Considering your monitor's location of being in Michigan and the way that you are attacking for criticizing racist scum, should I also take a hint that you might support the actions of the Nazis who were there? 

 
 
 
KDMichigan
6.1.9  KDMichigan  replied to  epistte @6.1.7    2 months ago
I had never heard of the guy and had to Wiki his name,

So

so he could not have been a major power in the Nazi party.

Why because you are uninformed? He was considered Hitlers right hand man.

The Nazi party was not gay friendly.

Who said they were? Here I'll paste what I said for the third time for you, If you can't comprehend what I said I can't help you.

Maybe some one should inform them that there were prominent members of the Nazi party that were …..Gay.

Do you understand? I said that members of the Nazi party were Gay and that the Neo-Nazi should learn their history.

 
 
 
KDMichigan
6.1.10  KDMichigan  replied to  epistte @6.1.8    2 months ago
Considering your monitor's location of being in Michigan

WTF are you talking about. What does my computer monitor have to do with anything? LMFAO talk about grasping at straws.

and the way that you are attacking for criticizing racist scum,

So when I made fun of the Neo-Nazi's for the Gays that had prominent positions in the Nazi party just who the hell am I criticizing. Does that offend you that I'm making fun of Nazi?

should I also take a hint that you might support the actions of the Nazis who were there?

You are the one defending them by trying to portray my post as untrue calling it revisionist. So I must Assume you support the Neo-Nazi party.

 
 
 
epistte
6.1.11  epistte  replied to  KDMichigan @6.1.9    2 months ago
Do you understand? I said that members of the Nazi party were Gay and that the Neo-Nazi should learn their history.

You found a grand total of one gay nazi. That is statistically insignificant.  Nazis were not gay-friendly, nor was it a gay ideology. 

Get back to me when Goering, Himmler,  Bormann, Brack, Eichmann, Mengele, Stangle, Ribbentrop, Speer, Raeder and others are photographed at a gay bathhouse in an orgy and the SS uniforms had a pink triangle.

The Nazis were not LGBT friendly, despite your attempts to spin it. Don't you ever suggest that I supported those racist bastards!  I would have tossed every one of them into a tree chipper if it was my choice.

 
 
 
KDMichigan
6.1.12  KDMichigan  replied to  epistte @6.1.11    2 months ago
The Nazis were not LGBT friendly,

Who said they were? 

despite your attempts to spin it.

Bullshit. You are the one defending them calling my post revisionist.

Don't you ever suggest that I supported those racist bastards!

Well obviously you do when I ridicule the Neo-Nazi and you chirp in defending them.

 
 
 
epistte
6.1.13  epistte  replied to  KDMichigan @6.1.12    2 months ago
Who said they were? 

You previously claimed that there were many gay Nazis and hinted they were gay-friendly.  That idea is blatantly untrue.

Bullshit. You are the one defending them calling my post revisionist.

You were not telling the truth about the origins of the pink triangle and the fact that Nazis aren't gay-friendly.  I was not and never have defended Nazis.  Your intellectual dancing of trying to create confusion isn't amusing.

 
Well obviously you do when I ridicule the Neo-Nazi and you chirp in defending them.

Where did I ever defend Nazis?

I have never defended the Nazis. Stop with the revisionist nonsense. 

 
 
 
KDMichigan
6.1.14  KDMichigan  replied to  epistte @6.1.11    2 months ago
Get back to me when Goering, Himmler,  Bormann, Brack, Eichmann, Mengele, Stangle, Ribbentrop, Speer, Raeder and others are photographed at a gay bathhouse in an orgy and the SS uniforms had a pink triangle.

Probably not going to [happen  ,deleted]   they are all dead.

I had heard before that Hitler himself was gay. [deleted]

Despite some ongoing resistance from historians, there exists a growing amount of evidence to suggest Adolf Hitler was a not only a repressed homosexual, but a behind-closed-doors fetish fiend.

http://heapgay.com/994-2/

 
 
 
epistte
6.1.15  epistte  replied to  KDMichigan @6.1.14    2 months ago
Probably not going to happen, I'm sure you idolize them but I hate to break the news to you they are all dead.

I had heard before that Hitler himself was gay. Hopefully that doesn't offend you seeing how much you stick up for Nazi and all.

I have never once defended the Nazis.

 
 
 
KDMichigan
6.1.16  KDMichigan  replied to  epistte @6.1.13    2 months ago
You previously claimed that there were many gay Nazis and hinted they were gay-friendly.  That idea is blatantly untrue.

That's a Bullshit, where did I say that?

You were not telling the truth about the origins of the pink triangle

WTF you talking about? I never said a thing about the pink triangle. You did.

 
 
 
KDMichigan
6.1.17  KDMichigan  replied to  epistte @6.1.13    2 months ago
Where did I ever defend Nazis?

When I said the Neo Nazi needed to research their own history because there was gays in the Nazi party you chirped in with that there was no gays in the Nazi party that is what this whole thread is about. Have you caught up yet?

You stated...

Those Nazis were not openly gay and proud of it.

As to where I had to prove that there was actually high ranking members of the Nazi party that were gay. And you still spin sputter and try to change everything I stated. Seems to me that person who is pro Nazi would be upset someone called members of there dear Nazi party gay.

Maybe you should stick to arguing with Christians about the existence about God?

 
 
 
TᵢG
6.1.18  TᵢG  replied to  KDMichigan @6.1.17    2 months ago

Accusing someone of defending Nazis is a particularly vile thing to do.   Best to be on solid ground.   In this case, you are not.

Epistte made no defense of Nazis.   She stated that the Nazis were generally against and abusive of homosexuals.  

Seems to me that person who is pro Nazi would be upset someone called members of there dear Nazi party gay.

This is pure trolling.   You owe epistte an apology.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
6.1.19  Jack_TX  replied to  TᵢG @6.1.18    2 months ago

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Tessylo
6.1.20  seeder  Tessylo  replied to  Jack_TX @6.1.19    2 months ago

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MrFrost
6.2  MrFrost  replied to  KDMichigan @6    2 months ago
10 Neo-nazi at protesting a gay parade ? OMG stop the press.

Exactly how many does it take before you say it's wrong? 

 
 
 
Galen Marvin Ross
6.3  Galen Marvin Ross  replied to  KDMichigan @6    2 months ago
Maybe some one should inform them that there were prominent members of the Nazi party that were …..Gay.

And, Hitler had them killed when he found out. Learn all the history, not just the part you think makes you look good.

 
 
 
Ronin2
7  Ronin2    2 months ago
Photos from the event, which was attended by thousands of LGBT+ supporters, showed a group of around 10 neo-Nazis marching surrounded by police officers. Dressed in black with a number carrying firearms and shields, the NSM marchers tore apart pride flags and pushed over at least one counter-demonstrator. One even appeared to urinate on an Israeli flag.

So 10 neo-Nazis show up to face off against thousands of LGBT + supporters. WTF are they afraid of? The Nazis stood 0 chance against those numbers. The only reason they have relevance is the media gave them some.

Also, they were surrounded by police- but one managed to push over a counter protester w/o being arrested for assault. In Detroit, not likely. They urinated on and destroyed flags, how much do you want to be they paid for them? Again, Detroit police are not going to let them assault anyone and take their flags. 

But hey, mission accomplished by the assholes. 10 of them managed to panic and almost derail an entire parade of thousands. The media was there to give them full coverage, props, and stoke up the fear. Maybe the assholes will get 15 to 20 to show up for the next one thanks to the free publicity.

 
 
 
Tessylo
7.1  seeder  Tessylo  replied to  Ronin2 @7    2 months ago

Why were the nazi scum armed?

 
 
 
KDMichigan
7.1.1  KDMichigan  replied to  Tessylo @7.1    2 months ago
Why were the nazi scum armed?

Why not?

 
 
 
Ronin2
7.1.2  Ronin2  replied to  Tessylo @7.1    2 months ago

Because they are Nazi scum, and being unarmed isn't nearly as intimidating. Gotta give the media those photo ops.  Surprised they didn't give a complete breakdown of their scary weapons.  I am sure the assholes would have been glad to tell the press exactly how well they were armed- and of course they were all licensed.  Probably had cool names picked out for their weapons too. What a disappointment for them. 

They were surrounded by police remember? They weren't going to try anything. I remember the good old days when pukes like these were ignored; and the press wouldn't give them any coverage.

 
 
 
Tessylo
7.1.3  seeder  Tessylo  replied to  Ronin2 @7.1.2    2 months ago

Publicity?  Looking for more nazi scum to join their ranks?  

 
 
 
Ronin2
7.1.4  Ronin2  replied to  Tessylo @7.1.3    2 months ago
Publicity?

What the hell do you think they were there for? They weren't there to pick a fight with anyone that is for damn sure. Ten vs thousands. I don't care if they were armed, they had about as many police surrounding them as they had members. If they tried anything it would have ended for them, period.

Looking for more nazi scum to join their ranks?

What is so earth shattering about this? Yes, they are looking for more like minded assholes that are afraid to show themselves out of fear of repercussions in their personal lives, being outcasts, or generally getting the shit kicked out of them.  The media just proved again to everyone that 10 mean as hell, nasty, demon Nazis can almost shut down an entire parade of thousands- even with the police there to stop them! Just think what they could accomplish if they had twice that number for the next one. It is enough to make an asshole's head spin.

 

 
 
 
Tessylo
7.1.5  seeder  Tessylo  replied to  Ronin2 @7.1.4    2 months ago

The way you continue to defend the indefensible is abhorrent.

Weren't there to pick a fight.  Right.  

 
 
 
epistte
7.1.6  epistte  replied to  Ronin2 @7.1.4    2 months ago
What the hell do you think they were there for? They weren't there to pick a fight with anyone that is for damn sure. Ten vs thousands. I don't care if they were armed, they had about as many police surrounding them as they had members. If they tried anything it would have ended for them, period.

If they weren't there to pick fights and cause trouble then why bother showing up? Is anyone else enjoying watching Trump supporters explain and defend the actions of Nazis? Did they think that it was a racist cosplay convention? 

I could swear that MAGAites support these racist scumbags showing up at a Pride parade..................... 

 
 
 
Tessylo
7.1.7  seeder  Tessylo  replied to  epistte @7.1.6    2 months ago

'If they weren't there to pick fights and cause trouble then why bother showing up? Is anyone else enjoying watching Trump supporters explain and defend the actions of Nazis? Did they think that it was a racist cosplay convention? 

I could swear that MAGAites support these racist scumbags showing up at a Pride parade..................... '

No I'm not enjoying it.  It's sickening.  Some troll my threads to no end and I marked KD's abhorrent comment and of course it's not removed.  

I bet my comment will be removed for complaining about their trolling and Nazi scum defending.  

 
 
 
Tacos!
7.1.8  Tacos!  replied to  Tessylo @7.1.5    2 months ago
The way you continue to defend the indefensible is abhorrent.

He called them assholes. How is that defending them? It's not defending them to suggest that they were trying to piss people off as opposed to getting into a fight. It's like trolling, but in the real world.

 
 
 
Drakkonis
7.1.9  Drakkonis  replied to  epistte @7.1.6    2 months ago
If they weren't there to pick fights and cause trouble then why bother showing up?

Because there are so few of them that they cannot get attention in any other way than doing things like this. That is most of the reason they were there. Attention. And the media gives it to them on a silver platter. 

 
 
 
epistte
7.1.10  epistte  replied to  Drakkonis @7.1.9    2 months ago
Because there are so few of them that they cannot get attention in any other way than doing things like this. That is most of the reason they were there. Attention. And the media gives it to them on a silver platter. 

I can only hope that they are publically outed and their cars license plates were photographed so they are all doxxed.  How many employers want staff who are members of the Nazi party?  I doubt that their customers would approve of their beliefs.

 
 
 
Drakkonis
7.1.11  Drakkonis  replied to  epistte @7.1.10    2 months ago

Well, there's that, I suppose. But more useful to the far left is that they get to magnify a problem that isn't all that great into something they can label everyone on the right with. That's why the media pushes it so hard. These Nazis are on the right of the political spectrum and somehow the far left thinks it's fair game to label everyone on the right as Nazis simply because they are on the right. The reality is that there are many different positions on the right, just like on the left. But who needs to be bothered with facts, right? Easier to just label them all Nazis. 

 
 
 
epistte
7.1.12  epistte  replied to  Drakkonis @7.1.11    2 months ago
Well, there's that, I suppose. But more useful to the far left is that they get to magnify a problem that isn't all that great into something they can label everyone on the right with. That's why the media pushes it so hard. These Nazis are on the right of the political spectrum and somehow the far left thinks it's fair game to label everyone on the right as Nazis simply because they are on the right. The reality is that there are many different positions on the right, just like on the left. But who needs to be bothered with facts, right? Easier to just label them all Nazis. 

1.)I wasn't labeling everyone on the right as Nazis.  I was referring to a handful of racist dirtbags that showed up in Detroit as Nazis. Unless somehow you were one of those few who were in Detroit then you have nothing to worry about.  I wasn't calling you a Nazi because I extremely doubtful that you were in Detroit or in D.C protesting a Pride event this weekend. 

2.) LGBT people aren't the far left, despite what you appear to believe. Is it a problem for you that others have equal rights to what you and I already enjoy?  Do you think that equal rights for them mean fewer rights for you?

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
7.1.13  Trout Giggles  replied to  epistte @7.1.12    2 months ago
LGBT people aren't the far left,

My young friend, who happens to be gay, would be appalled at being called "The Far Left". That boy loves everything trmp and does his fair share of bashing democrats and the Left

 
 
 
Ronin2
7.1.14  Ronin2  replied to  Tessylo @7.1.5    2 months ago
The way you continue to defend the indefensible is abhorrent.

Nazi's are assholes and pukes; but they have the right to protest peace fully like anyone else.  That includes any other offensive asshole racist groups out there as well. It is protected under law. It makes this country what it is. No one is forcing anyone to listen to it, or attend it.

It is the media that sensationalizes it.  They gave full coverage to 10 friggin Nazis. Talk about over blown.

Weren't there to pick a fight.  Right.

Nope. They were there for the free media coverage. Seems you haven't been to Detroit. They aren't known for being sympathetic to Nazis. Which is the reason there were more police around the Nazis than there were Nazi protesters. Now, if the LGBT pride movement and their supporters started a fight with them; that would have been even better. The police would have been forced to defend the Nazis, who they hate. The media would have eaten it up. It would have made the world news easily. The Nazis would have loved it.

 
 
 
MUVA
7.1.15  MUVA  replied to  Drakkonis @7.1.9    2 months ago

They were ignored for years CNN and the some of the democrat media decided to give them a platforum.

 
 
 
MrFrost
7.1.16  MrFrost  replied to  MUVA @7.1.15    2 months ago
They were ignored for years CNN and the some of the democrat media decided to give them a platforum.

Ok, my disco beaver from space... 

Serious question.

Are you;

a) thinking these turds deserve no coverage at all, or;

b) embarrassed that these turds are, (for the most part), members of your party, and that's why you don't like them being covered in the media?

I think we both agree that these neo-nazi's are shit. I am just trying to figure out why you would be offended that these idiots are exposed in the media. That's all. 

 
 
 
Galen Marvin Ross
7.1.17  Galen Marvin Ross  replied to  KDMichigan @7.1.1    2 months ago

Sooo, if the LGBTQ parade goers had shown up with guns that would have been alright with you?

 
 
 
Tessylo
7.1.18  seeder  Tessylo  replied to  Drakkonis @7.1.11    2 months ago

That's a scummy thing to say.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
7.1.19  seeder  Tessylo  replied to  Ronin2 @7.1.14    2 months ago

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Jack_TX
7.1.20  Jack_TX  replied to  Galen Marvin Ross @7.1.17    2 months ago
Sooo, if the LGBTQ parade goers had shown up with guns that would have been alright with you?

Sure.  The Constitution protects their right to do so.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
7.1.21  Jack_TX  replied to  Tessylo @7.1.18    2 months ago
That's a scummy thing to say.  

That the media is making a mountain out of a molehill?  That's "scummy"?

 
 
 
Tessylo
7.2  seeder  Tessylo  replied to  Ronin2 @7    2 months ago

10 nazi scum is 10 too many

 
 
 
Ronin2
7.2.1  Ronin2  replied to  Tessylo @7.2    2 months ago

Thanks to the free press they received from the event I am sure that number will grow.

 
 
 
Tessylo
7.2.2  seeder  Tessylo  replied to  Ronin2 @7.2.1    2 months ago

And that's a good thing?

 
 
 
epistte
7.2.3  epistte  replied to  Ronin2 @7.2.1    2 months ago
Thanks to the free press they received from the event I am sure that number will grow.

Does that possibility give you the warm fuzzies? 

 
 
 
MrFrost
7.2.4  MrFrost  replied to  Ronin2 @7.2.1    2 months ago
Thanks to the free press they received from the event I am sure that number will grow.

You aren't wrong, but, had they not been causing a problem, or even existing in the first place, there would BE no press coverage. 

It's not the media that was pissing on Jewish flags, it was the nazi assholes. Cause and effect. 

 
 
 
Ronin2
7.2.5  Ronin2  replied to  Tessylo @7.2.2    2 months ago
And that's a good thing?

I always call people I like pukes and assholes.  It endears me greatly to them.

Where did I state it was a good thing? Want to blame someone, blame the stupid ass media that that 10 Nazis was news worthy enough to report on.

 
 
 
Ronin2
7.2.6  Ronin2  replied to  epistte @7.2.3    2 months ago
Does that possibility give you the warm fuzzies? 

What the hell is wrong with you people? Show me one comment where I supported these assholes? I am stating a fact that the only reason they were there was the media coverage. The media gave them exactly what they craved- attention. That attention will allow them to drag more of their assholes out into the open to join them.

Does it sound like I want more of them around? I want all racist scumbag organizations to whither away and die. The best way to do that is not grant them the free media sensationalism that will allow them to increase their numbers.

 
 
 
Ronin2
7.2.7  Ronin2  replied to  MrFrost @7.2.4    2 months ago

It is the media that shows individual racists assholes that it is OK to come into the light. There are others like them; that will support them; and there will be no repercussions to their actions.

But what the hell. Encourage the media to sensationalize the assholes more. I am sure that will diminish their numbers.

 
 
 
Tessylo
7.2.8  seeder  Tessylo  replied to  Ronin2 @7.2.5    2 months ago

I don't blame the media.  I blame the nazi scum who need attention.  

 
 
 
Ronin2
7.2.9  Ronin2  replied to  Tessylo @7.2.8    2 months ago

Well, neither one are going anywhere. So their sick symbiosis can continue. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
7.2.10  seeder  Tessylo  replied to  Ronin2 @7.2.9    2 months ago

If you say so dude.  

 
 
 
KDMichigan
7.2.11  KDMichigan  replied to  Ronin2 @7.2.7    2 months ago
It is the media that shows individual racists assholes that it is OK to come into the light

Them 10 Neo-nazi's being exploited by the press give the snowflakes a reason to be butt hurt.

They can then blame it on Rump, cry that the Turd gives them a platform all while ignoring the fact that the extreme left has more in common with Neo-nazi's than they care to admit.

 
 
 
MrFrost
7.2.12  MrFrost  replied to  KDMichigan @7.2.11    2 months ago
Them 10 Neo-nazi's being exploited by the press give the snowflakes a reason to be butt hurt.

I dunno, seems to me the ones that are butthurt are the neo-nazis. I mean, they are the ones crying about people living their lives the way they see fit. 

 
 
 
Tacos!
8  Tacos!    2 months ago
people started running after hearing what they thought was a gunshot

It's kind of unfortunate that we live in a world where a loud bang starts a stampede. I guess some of that is all the shootings we see and some of it is the world that LGBT live in. One day, I hope we can all be a little less nervous.

 
 
 
r.t..b...
8.1  r.t..b...  replied to  Tacos! @8    2 months ago
some of it is the world that LGBT live in.

Interesting take. What world is that and how is it any different than the one we all share? Continuing to stir it up is the only logical conclusion to be drawn. 

 
 
 
Tacos!
8.1.1  Tacos!  replied to  r.t..b... @8.1    2 months ago
What world is that and how is it any different than the one we all share?

My point is they have a reason to be paranoid. This story is a good example. Nazis came out to protest them. Wouldn't it unnerve you just a little to be protested by nazis?

Can you ever think of a time when someone was physically attacked because they were heterosexual? I can't. Heterosexuals get attacked, to be sure, but not because they are heterosexual. Homosexuals are assaulted and murdered because they are homosexual. That wouldn't make you a little more nervous?

 
 
 
r.t..b...
8.1.2  r.t..b...  replied to  Tacos! @8.1.1    2 months ago
Homosexuals are assaulted and murdered because they are homosexual.

Granted, but hearing a loud bang and starting a panic has less to do with sexual orientation and is much closer to your first contention...that it is due to the preponderance of gun violence that all of us are forced to deal with. And living with a target on your back if you are anything but straight and white is more the nerve wracking, it is abhorrent.

 
 
 
Tacos!
8.1.3  Tacos!  replied to  r.t..b... @8.1.2    2 months ago
living with a target on your back if you are anything but straight and white

I'm both straight and white and I honestly don't feel like I'm in danger of being attacked on that basis. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
8.1.4  seeder  Tessylo  replied to  Tacos! @8.1.3    2 months ago
Good way to miss the point.  

 
 
 
r.t..b...
8.1.5  r.t..b...  replied to  Tacos! @8.1.3    2 months ago
I'm both straight and white and I honestly don't feel like I'm in danger of being attacked on that basis. 

Proving the point. Sadly, there are those members of our society that can't share your sense of security, based on any number of factors...all of which are symptomatic of the hate, ignorance and fear that still pervades life in the ongoing struggle for equitability.

 
 
 
Tacos!
8.1.6  Tacos!  replied to  Tessylo @8.1.4    2 months ago

What point?

 
 
 
Tacos!
8.1.7  Tacos!  replied to  r.t..b... @8.1.5    2 months ago
Sadly, there are those members of our society that can't share your sense of security, based on any number of factors

Yes. That has been my whole point all along. It seems like that isn't clear to you. It seems like you are trying to suggest that I somehow disagree with my own take. Your comments are confusing.

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
8.1.8  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  Tacos! @8.1.3    2 months ago
I'm both straight and white and I honestly don't feel like I'm in danger of being attacked on that basis.

Straight or not, your silly behind would have been running, too.

 
 
 
Tessylo
8.1.9  seeder  Tessylo  replied to  Tacos! @8.1.7    2 months ago

Your comments are confusing.  

 
 
 
r.t..b...
8.1.10  r.t..b...  replied to  Tacos! @8.1.7    2 months ago
Your comments are confusing.

No harm no foul...I'm continually in a state of confusion... being dazed and confused is the only way to negotiate life these days. 

 
 
 
Tacos!
8.1.11  Tacos!  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @8.1.8    2 months ago
Straight or not, your silly behind would have been running, too.

If you say so. I haven't heard the noise. Did you hear it? What was it like?

 
 
 
Tacos!
8.1.12  Tacos!  replied to  Tessylo @8.1.9    2 months ago
Your comments are confusing.

OK, well maybe I can help. Go back to my original comment. What did I say that confuses you?

I said it was unfortunate that a loud bang starts a stampede. Isn't it?

I went on to suggest that it was probably some kind of combination of shootings in the news and the greater threat of physical violence that one sadly expects as an LGBT person (or frankly, anybody at a pride event or who is supporting pride). I stand by that and I don't see why it would confuse you.

Then, rtb asked me to explain how things are different for LGBT people and I explained as you see here.

Then, for some reason, you, rtb and Agnes seem to all want to attack me. I don't understand why.

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
8.1.13  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  Tacos! @8.1.11    2 months ago
If you say so. I haven't heard the noise. Did you hear it? What was it like?

If you are implying that I am a member of the LGBT community, then thank you.  I consider it a compliment.

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Tacos!
8.1.14  Tacos!  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @8.1.13    2 months ago
If you are implying that I am a member of the LGBT community

I wasn't trying to imply anything. You said I would have reacted a certain way and I'm wondering how you know that.

 
 
 
MrFrost
8.1.15  MrFrost  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @8.1.13    2 months ago
If you are implying that I am a member of the LGBT community, then thank you.  I consider it a compliment.

800

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
8.1.16  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  Tacos! @8.1.14    2 months ago
I wasn't trying to imply anything. You said I would have reacted a certain way and I'm wondering how you know that.

I wasn't implying anything either when I mentioned how oblivious you are to the stupidity of your own comments.  I was sincerely trying to help you.  I'm the kind of person who will tell you when your pants are unzipped or your dress has been accidentally tucked into the back of your granny-panties.  In your case, you've had that same piece of toilet paper stuck to the bottom of your shoe for quite some time and it's sad that your friends haven't bothered telling you, so I did.

 
 
 
Tacos!
8.1.17  Tacos!  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @8.1.16    2 months ago

What is it I said that you think is so stupid?

 
 
 
Don Overton
8.1.18  Don Overton  replied to  Tessylo @8.1.4    2 months ago

Amen!!

 
 
 
Jack_TX
8.1.19  Jack_TX  replied to  Tacos! @8.1.1    2 months ago
Wouldn't it unnerve you just a little to be protested by nazis?

It would take way more than 10.

 
 
 
Tacos!
8.1.20  Tacos!  replied to  Don Overton @8.1.18    2 months ago

Oh, well if there's an "amen" to be had, maybe you can explain what it's for? No one else seems to want to.

 
 
 
MrFrost
8.1.21  MrFrost  replied to  Jack_TX @8.1.19    2 months ago
It would take way more than 10.

When I was younger, I went toe to toe with a couple of neo-nazi's on the street. As a young Marine, it went poorly for them, (it was only two of them). I despise hate, in all forms. This is America, the great melting pot where we are supposed to be free to be who and what we want to be. Gay, straight, black, white, yellow, green, orange, blue, red.....it doesn't matter. Be who you want to be, and don't be critical of what someone else wants to be. Yes? I mean, I have a neighbor that is Muslim, cannot for the life of him, get his damn lawnmower started, every spring...and loves cheap vodka in a pitcher with Pepsi... I mean...really? No OJ?

.

I joined the USMC because I LOVE the USA...all of it. The diversity, the acceptance...the love... I can go to any state in the union...no papers. No need to change who I am, and I know that people will care about me, the same way I care about them. 

.

That being said...

.

I do not support hate... I can't. I may dislike aspects of our society, I may oppose aspects of our society, but I do respect their right to free speech, and respect their views. But when it comes to flat out hate? My gloves come off. And I will happily whoop whole sale ass if their hate violates someone else's right to be who they are. 

The USA's diversity is a strength, not a weakness....we, as a nation, need to accept that. 

 
 
 
Jack_TX
8.1.22  Jack_TX  replied to  MrFrost @8.1.21    2 months ago
The USA's diversity is a strength, not a weakness....we, as a nation, need to accept that. 

The overwhelming majority of us have.  We're just stupid when we get together.

One of my favorite movie lines....  "person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it."

I have a very good friend who is a retired Marine.  This guy will post the most horrific anti Muslim shite on Facebook without a second thought.  But I've coached baseball with him, and I know without a doubt that if some kid named Mohammed or Achmed or Hasaan showed up for baseball practice, he would love that kid like his own.

Many people fear groups of people, but not the individuals within that group.  It's ridiculous, but frankly it's just one item on a long list of ridiculous things that are ingrained in American culture.

And I will happily whoop whole sale ass if their hate violates someone else's right to be who they are. 

And that's the thing.  Take a look at these idiots at this rally.  Ten guys standing there with their dicks in their hands in the face of thousands.  If the police go for donuts, they're in deep shit.  They couldn't violate anybody's rights if they had to. There are not enough of these guys to field a football team, yet we pretend they matter.  

 
 
 
katrix
8.1.23  katrix  replied to  Jack_TX @8.1.22    2 months ago
We're just stupid when we get together.

I love the Demotivators from despair.com.  They make fun of those motivational posters. 

Meetings:  None of is as dumb as all of us.

Consistency:  It's only a virtue if you're not a screwup.

 
 
 
Tessylo
8.1.24  seeder  Tessylo  replied to  Jack_TX @8.1.22    2 months ago
'And that's the thing.  Take a look at these idiots at this rally.  Ten guys standing there with their dicks in their hands in the face of thousands.  If the police go for donuts, they're in deep shit.  They couldn't violate anybody's rights if they had to. There are not enough of these guys to field a football team, yet we pretend they matter.'  

You continue to defend the indefensible.

Any nazi scum is too many.  

I don't pretend anything.  

 
 
 
Jack_TX
8.1.25  Jack_TX  replied to  Tessylo @8.1.24    2 months ago
You continue to defend the indefensible.

You fail to understand the definition of the word "defend".

I don't pretend anything.

I was giving you the benefit of the doubt.  

 
 
 
MrFrost
8.1.26  MrFrost  replied to  Jack_TX @8.1.22    2 months ago

Men in Black reference.. Nice! 

 
 
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