First Democratic debate highlights in under five minutes: Round 1

  
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First Democratic debate highlights in under five minutes: Round 1
Ten 2020 presidential candidates faced off in round one of the first Democratic debate, from a technical glitch to spars on immigration and health care.

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Perrie Halpern R.A.
1  seeder  Perrie Halpern R.A.    3 weeks ago

What was your highlight ( or low)?

 
 
 
MrFrost
1.1  MrFrost  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @1    3 weeks ago

70% of Americans think Roe V. Wade should NOT be over turned. I am one of the 70%. 

 
 
 
Ronin2
1.1.1  Ronin2  replied to  MrFrost @1.1    3 weeks ago

Frankly the candidates dodged the main abortion question on if there should be any restrictions on abortion; and if so what they were.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2019/06/2020-democrats-abortion-debate/592696/

The majority of Americans also think the Hyde Amendment should be left in place. The Democratic candidates are completely out of touch on that. Of course they dodged that issue as well; but they have made their policies clear on the campaign trail.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/06/joe-biden-hyde-amendment-democratic-support.html 

 
 
 
WallyW
1.2  WallyW  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @1    3 weeks ago

I did not watch, but rumor has it they played a lot of "dodge" ball.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
2  Vic Eldred    3 weeks ago

Julian Castro calling for the repeal of section 1325 of the Immigration and Nationality Act, which would mean it would no longer be illegal to enter the US. In other words, he is advocating for open borders. It was totally under reported by the media.

 
 
 
Texan1211
2.1  Texan1211  replied to  Vic Eldred @2    3 weeks ago
Julian Castro calling for the repeal of section 1325 of the Immigration and Nationality Act, which would mean it would no longer be illegal to enter the US. In other words, he is advocating for open borders. It was totally under reported by the media.

Of course it would be under reported by the majority of media.

Wouldn't want anyone saying the truth--that some Democrats are for open borders.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
2.1.1  Vic Eldred  replied to  Texan1211 @2.1    3 weeks ago

Thank God for a handful of publications & Fox News:

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National Review

"Julian Castro Separates Himself from Field by Calling to Decriminalize Border Crossing"

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
3  Vic Eldred    3 weeks ago

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    Rachel Maddow and Chuck Todd take over and immediately have technical problems leading some conservatives to say loudly: “see, there is a God.”

    They cut to commercial.
 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
4  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh    3 weeks ago

I learned that Julian Castro will fight for abortions for biological males.

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Booker and Beto's eyes were locked on on another.  I think they had a moment.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
4.1  Vic Eldred  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @4    3 weeks ago

It's was an abortion fest! 

Amazing how far left they drifted.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
5  Vic Eldred    3 weeks ago

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After tonight’s
#DemocraticDebate.......that whole Trump 3rd term thing is looking better and better.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
5.1  seeder  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Vic Eldred @5    3 weeks ago
After tonight’s #DemocraticDebate.......that whole Trump 3rd term thing is looking better and better.

I hope you're kidding about that. There is a reason we only allow 2 term presidents. 

 
 
 
 
Vic Eldred
5.1.2  Vic Eldred  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @5.1    3 weeks ago
There is a reason we only allow 2 term presidents. 

I know - because of FDR!!!!!

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
5.1.3  seeder  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1.2    3 weeks ago

FDR did and because he was an honest man and cared about this country, he realized the danger of not addressing this. It is probably one of the best things he did for this country. 

 
 
 
Dean Moriarty
5.1.4  Dean Moriarty  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @5.1.3    3 weeks ago

How did he address it he won and fourth term and died? 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
5.1.5  Vic Eldred  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @5.1.3    3 weeks ago

Lol, No, FDR did because 4 terms were allowed in the 1930's & 40's.  As soon as the Republicans got control of congress, it was they who put a 2 term limit on the Presidency, because they hated the idea of FDR having 4 terms.  But look how it quickly bit them in the ass. They then had Eisenhower, who could have been re-elected until the day he died. Think how that would have changed American History?

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
5.1.6  seeder  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1.5    3 weeks ago

You are correct Vic. I checked. I guess I was getting that confused with the founding fathers who had no issue with it. 

Dewey was the one who got the ball rolling on the amendment. 

As for history, change any event and the butterfly effect kicks in. 

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
5.1.7  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1.5    3 weeks ago
Think how that would have changed American History?

I believe power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. It's almost as consistent as gravity. And it's almost a pre-requisite to be a bit narcissistic to even run for President, so without term limits that narcissism can only be amplified and corrupted over time, thus eight years should be the most anyone can serve in the highest office in the nation no matter how good a President we started out with. And just imagine what kind of a joke we would become when a President starts his first term already an absolutely corrupt narcissist like we have with Trump? I really don't want to see what eight years of absolute corruption looks like or what it will do to our nation.

 
 
 
Sparty On
5.1.8  Sparty On  replied to  Dean Moriarty @5.1.4    3 weeks ago

It would be news to me if FDR had ANYTHING to do with the POTUS terms limits.

The history of it is quite interesting, with debates on the topic going back to the late 1700's

The 22nd amendment was indeed a good thing.  Now we need to do the same for congress.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
5.1.9  seeder  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Sparty On @5.1.8    3 weeks ago
The 22nd amendment was indeed a good thing.  Now we need to do the same for congress.

AGREED!

 
 
 
Ender
5.1.10  Ender  replied to  Sparty On @5.1.8    3 weeks ago

The only reason I am sort of against it for congress is then we would basically have a revolving door.

When we have government officials that are appointed to their positions then a constant revolving congress, it makes the entrenched non elected officials more powerful.

Just my thoughts on it, of course a twelve year time limit on senators should be long enough to solve some problems.

 
 
 
Sparty On
5.1.11  Sparty On  replied to  Ender @5.1.10    3 weeks ago
The only reason I am sort of against it for congress is then we would basically have a revolving door.

I totally agree with what you're saying but i think the status quo may be worse.   It certainly isn't working very well.

One way to find out right?   Put to vote of the people i have little doubt it would pass.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
5.1.12  Vic Eldred  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @5.1.6    3 weeks ago
You are correct Vic. I checked.

"Heavy is the head that wears the Crown."  I don't like being right all the time, but it's necessary here.

Dewey was the one who got the ball rolling on the amendment. 

He was a political force in his day.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
5.1.13  Vic Eldred  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @5.1.7    3 weeks ago
I really don't want to see what eight years of absolute corruption looks like or what it will do to our nation.

Corruption dosen't bother me half as much as Ideology. Recent history shows what radical beliefs have done to this country.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
5.1.14  seeder  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1.12    3 weeks ago
"Heavy is the head that wears the Crown."  I don't like being right all the time, but it's necessary here.

Vic, I know you are just messing with me there, right? LOL!

 
 
 
JohnRussell
5.1.15  JohnRussell  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @5.1.6    3 weeks ago

Roosevelt didnt want to run in 1940, let alone 1944.  He was well aware of the two term tradition. By 1940 the world was at war and FDR allowed himself to be persuaded that he was the best person to deal with it as president of the United States. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
5.1.16  Vic Eldred  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @5.1.14    3 weeks ago

Lol, Just having some fun

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
5.1.17  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @5.1    3 weeks ago

I remember long ago watching a movie about Nixon where Kissinger arranged for him to meet with Chairman Mao and open trade relations increasing potential customers for American manufacturers by a billion possible consumers, and that Nixon, who was worried about re-election to a second term, would march into the convention with the biggest first vote majority ever experienced by a candidate.  Nixon went over and kissed Kissinger, saying "Henry, you're a genius", and then went and sat down at his oval office desk and pondered as to whether it would be a good time to consider a constitutional change to allow for a third term.  Funny how I remember things like that.

 
 
 
Sparty On
6  Sparty On    3 weeks ago

I tried watching but had to switch channels after about 30 minutes.   When they started competing with each other as to who could speak Spanish better.

It was like watching a kids T-ball game.   Moderators placing the ball on the tee and rooting them on to hit it out of the park.   Perhaps they asked some really tough questions after i shut it off but i doubt it.   Not the way it was going.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
6.1  Vic Eldred  replied to  Sparty On @6    3 weeks ago
Perhaps they asked some really tough questions after i shut it off but i doubt it. 

No, there was no Megyn Kelly to ask a tough question.

 
 
 
Sparty On
6.1.1  Sparty On  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1    3 weeks ago

I like how some of them didn't even try to answer the question asked.   In that regard i think Warren did among the best from what i saw.   I didn't agree with her answers but she answered the questions pretty directly.  

Some of the others?   Not so much.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
6.1.2  Vic Eldred  replied to  Sparty On @6.1.1    3 weeks ago
I like how some of them didn't even try to answer the question asked. 

I think it was a strategy for Tulsi Gabbard. She told everyone about herself and talked about Iran and getting out of the middle east. She was smart in how she did it.  The questions on balance were what we expected - all softballs.

 
 
 
Sunshine
6.1.3  Sunshine  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1.2    3 weeks ago
I think it was a strategy for Tulsi Gabbard.

She went a bit overboard on the nuke scare with Iran.  Too much fear mongering in her for me.

 
 
 
Sparty On
6.1.4  Sparty On  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1.2    3 weeks ago
I think it was a strategy for Tulsi Gabbard.

Yeah, thats the read i got as well.   Probably a good strategy as well since few have heard of her and what she stands for.  

The media is too busy analyzing Beto's haircut or how much foam is in Klobuchars beer.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
6.1.5  Vic Eldred  replied to  Sunshine @6.1.3    3 weeks ago

Then I admire your equanimity.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
6.1.6  Vic Eldred  replied to  Sparty On @6.1.4    3 weeks ago
Probably a good strategy as well since few have heard of her and what she stands for.  

As well as contrasting her statement with the more outrageous statements about free stuff and open borders and abortion for all!

 
 
 
katrix
6.1.7  katrix  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1.2    3 weeks ago
I think it was a strategy for Tulsi Gabbard

I have to admit I've never heard of her. I'll wait until the field settles down a bit before I start paying attention; I must confess that I've never watched a primary debate.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
6.1.8  Vic Eldred  replied to  katrix @6.1.7    3 weeks ago
I have to admit I've never heard of her.

Most haven't. She may have corrected some of that last night.

 
 
 
Sunshine
6.1.9  Sunshine  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1.5    3 weeks ago
Then I admire your equanimity.

Thank you. I am sure there will be more fear based rhetoric tonight.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
6.1.10  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1    3 weeks ago
No, there was no Megyn Kelly to ask a tough question.

'Why do you insult women'   was a tough question? jrSmiley_80_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
6.1.11  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @6.1.10    3 weeks ago

Would you like to be asked that question as a Presidential candidate?  

BTW when I heard her ask it I was delighted. At that time I didn't think Trump was electable. I was hoping for either Rubio or Cruz. When she asked it I said to myself "she's taking him down." jrSmiley_19_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
6.1.12  Vic Eldred  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1.11    3 weeks ago

NBC did just the opposite. Julian Castro says he is against the section of immigration law making it illegal to walk into the US and there was no follow question highlighting what he just said - So you are in favor of open borders? jrSmiley_26_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
TᵢG
6.2  TᵢG  replied to  Sparty On @6    3 weeks ago
When they started competing with each other as to who could speak Spanish better.

Such blatant pandering.   I can see stating a theme in Spanish (a single sentence).    After that it is a show that puts a tick in the 'not this one' column (for me).

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
6.2.1  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  TᵢG @6.2    3 weeks ago

This is how you get elected. You find an issue that resonates with .05% of the population and hope the rest of the population then appreciates your delusions.

 
 
 
Sparty On
6.2.2  Sparty On  replied to  TᵢG @6.2    3 weeks ago
Such blatant pandering.

I know.   If it wasn't so sad it would be comical.  

A real, mom dad, mom dad, mom dad ..... look at me moment.

 
 
 
Sunshine
6.2.3  Sunshine  replied to  TᵢG @6.2    3 weeks ago

Booker was about ready to go New Jersey on Beto. jrSmiley_86_smiley_image.gif 

384

 
 
 
Ender
6.2.4  Ender  replied to  Sunshine @6.2.3    3 weeks ago

It seems like Booker has been attacking every one lately.

 
 
 
Sunshine
7  Sunshine    3 weeks ago

De Blasio trying to defend his treatment of the NYC police department was sad. He must have had a lapse in memory of them turning their backs on him.

Warren was obviously the chosen one for the moderators.

 
 
 
Sparty On
7.1  Sparty On  replied to  Sunshine @7    3 weeks ago
Warren was obviously the chosen one for the moderators.

Yep

 
 
 
Kathleen
8  Kathleen    3 weeks ago

I watched some of it, and I was not real impressed with any of them. I am waiting to see what Biden has to say when it’s his turn.

 
 
 
Sparty On
8.1  Sparty On  replied to  Kathleen @8    3 weeks ago

It will be like watching a pack of dogs with one meaty bone and Biden is the bone.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
8.1.1  seeder  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Sparty On @8.1    3 weeks ago

Trump was the bone and now look. 

I am not worried about Biden. He's been there and done that. 

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
8.1.2  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @8.1.1    3 weeks ago

Biden should beat these creepy candidates handily, unless of course he falls a sleep and drools or starts rubbing himself or someone else on live television.

 
 
 
Sparty On
8.1.3  Sparty On  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @8.1.1    3 weeks ago

It's gonna be fun to watch that's for sure

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
8.1.4  seeder  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @8.1.2    3 weeks ago
unless of course he falls a sleep and drools or starts rubbing himself or someone else on live television.

In your dreams BF. 

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
8.1.5  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @8.1.4    3 weeks ago

They had to make the 2nd debate 21 and over because of Joe.

 
 
 
Kathleen
8.1.6  Kathleen  replied to  Sparty On @8.1    3 weeks ago

He disappointed me last night.

 
 
 
livefreeordie
9  livefreeordie    3 weeks ago

The bottom line is that the Dem party bosses want Biden, but will be overruled by the leftist base who will select from among Sanders, Warren, or Harris.   They will narrow down to either Warren or Harris. 

This will lead to a 45-48 State Trump victory 

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
9.1  seeder  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  livefreeordie @9    3 weeks ago

Gotta disagree with you LFOD. I think Biden will make it. 

You know about what they say about unhatched chickens. 

 
 
 
Ronin2
9.1.1  Ronin2  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @9.1    3 weeks ago

I think Biden will take the Democratic primary; but he will be dragged so far left he will turn off independents and moderate Republicans that might have voted for him in the national election.

Also, he will have the same problem as Hillary did during last national election. He will be the Establishment Democratic choice; but will turn off younger hard leftists so they will either stay home, go third party, or punish the Democrats by voting for Trump again (That alone would teach the Democratic Party!).

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
9.1.2  seeder  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Ronin2 @9.1.1    3 weeks ago

I think that Biden is Biden. He will pretty much stay who he is. I think he is well aware of the situation. 

Hillary had a lot not going for her:

Benghazi, emails, not doing enough on the campaign trail, calling a large swath of the voting electorate "Deplorables", having a last minute call into question by Comey over nothing (which added doubt) and having a really bad dress maker who thought that fabric from a 1960's couch was good for a pants suit. And while given a choice right now for the younger voters, if it is left to Biden vs Trump, they will hold their noses and vote Biden. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
9.1.3  Texan1211  replied to  Ronin2 @9.1.1    3 weeks ago

I am not too confident that Biden will win the nomination.

It would seem to be going against what the Democrats are so proud of NOT being--the party of old white men.

Even though most folks know you can't win an election without them.

 
 
 
Texan1211
9.1.4  Texan1211  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @9.1.2    3 weeks ago
having a last minute call into question by Comey over nothing (which added doubt)

Even years later, I still find it hard to believe that anything Comey did or said had much influence. It is almost inconceivable that the vast majority had not already decided who'd they vote for.

And besides, why would it cast doubt when Comey also came out and "exonerated" her? Why wouldn't THAT count just as much?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
9.1.5  JohnRussell  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @9.1.2    3 weeks ago
calling a large swath of the voting electorate "Deplorables",

She said that about half of Trump voters were based on some level of "white grievance" against multiculturalism. Subsequent studies have confirmed she was correct.  Maybe a word other than "deplorable" would have been better, but Clinton thought that the majority would reject the racial based plea of the Trump campaign. Didnt happen, as we know.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
9.1.6  Tessylo  replied to  Texan1211 @9.1.4    3 weeks ago

The vast majority had already decided to vote for Hillary.

Comey really fucked things up and essentially handed it to the turd Rump

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
9.1.7  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @9.1.2    3 weeks ago

Not to mention in the Wikileaks John Podesta email he said she smelled like farts and moth balls. That was it for me. I couldn't vote for a stinky grandma in a moo moo.

 
 
 
Texan1211
9.1.8  Texan1211  replied to  Tessylo @9.1.6    3 weeks ago

So you seriously expect some to believe that people had decided to vote for Hillary, changed their minds because Comey reopened the "investigation" for almost 8 whole days before "clearing" her once again, and that people who changed their minds from voting for her to someone else wouldn't change their minds back again??

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livefreeordie
9.1.9  livefreeordie  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @9.1    3 weeks ago

I’ve been engaged in this since 1959 and I have a pretty good feel for these things since they went to the primary method.

the base of the Democrat party wants someone on the far left.   Biden will be vying with Kampala Harris for the Black vote and since California switched to an early primary date and is a high delegate count, she wipes out his perceived advantage 

 
 
 
Ozzwald
9.1.10  Ozzwald  replied to  Tessylo @9.1.6    3 weeks ago
The vast majority had already decided to vote for Hillary.

The vast majority DID vote for her.  Her loss lands squarely on her's and Putin's shoulders.  (since it has been revealed that Russia did hack some voting machines)

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
9.1.11  seeder  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Texan1211 @9.1.3    3 weeks ago
It would seem to be going against what the Democrats are so proud of NOT being--the party of old white men. Even though most folks know you can't win an election without them.

I think Obama kind of proves that point wrong. 

Personally, I would like to get away from identity politics and just pick the best PERSON. 

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
9.1.12  seeder  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Texan1211 @9.1.4    3 weeks ago
And besides, why would it cast doubt when Comey also came out and "exonerated" her? Why wouldn't THAT count just as much?

What a month before the election and he drops a possible bombshell only to take it back. How come you are not so philosophical about investigations into Trump? Because of course, these things matter. What happens negatively always remains in the minds of people.

 
 
 
Tessylo
9.1.13  Tessylo  replied to  Ozzwald @9.1.10    3 weeks ago

That's what I meant to say - the vast majority voted for Hillary and I was one of them.  

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
9.1.14  seeder  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Tessylo @9.1.6    3 weeks ago
Comey really fucked things up and essentially handed it to the turd Rump

He sure the hell didn't help her. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
9.1.15  Tessylo  replied to  Ozzwald @9.1.10    3 weeks ago

How coincidental it was just before the election that Comey re-opened the investigation.

 
 
 
Texan1211
9.1.16  Texan1211  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @9.1.12    3 weeks ago
What a month before the election and he drops a possible bombshell only to take it back. How come you are not so philosophical about investigations into Trump? Because of course, these things matter. What happens negatively always remains in the minds of people.

10/28/16 Comey announces via a letter that new emails have been found that are relevant to the investigation into Hillary Clinton.

11/5/2016 Comey clears Hillary Clinton once again.
He says the new emails do not point to any wrongdoing by Clinton.

Not a month before the election. Election was November 8.

Some would have us believe that Comey's letter to Congress greatly affected the election, all the while pretending that his clearing her had no effect.

To me, that is unbelievable and silly.

 
 
 
Texan1211
9.1.17  Texan1211  replied to  Tessylo @9.1.13    3 weeks ago
That's what I meant to say - the vast majority voted for Hillary and I was one of them.

So you consider a 2.1% difference in votes a "vast majority".

That is rather strange.

 
 
 
Texan1211
9.1.18  Texan1211  replied to  Tessylo @9.1.15    3 weeks ago
How coincidental it was just before the election that Comey re-opened the investigation.

Oh, yeah.

JUST as coincidental as Comey clearing Hillary just before the election--again.

 
 
 
Ronin2
9.1.19  Ronin2  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @9.1.2    3 weeks ago
I think that Biden is Biden. He will pretty much stay who he is. I think he is well aware of the situation. 

I only wish that were true. He has already swung hard left on the Hyde Amendment, and immigration. He is old, white, male, and straight- which automatically puts him at odds with the hard left ideal candidate. He will be moving further left as the hard left attacks, and polls turn against him. 

Hillary had a lot not going for her:

I agree Hillary was not the ideal candidate; but losing Sanders supporters probably cost her the election (even with your astutely mentioned short comings). That and alienating fly over country by not campaigning there.

The last thing the Democratic Party needs is for it to like like they have the fix in for Biden the way they did for Hillary.

And while given a choice right now for the younger voters, if it is left to Biden vs Trump, they will hold their noses and vote Biden. 

I am admittedly out of touch with the younger voters- but they seem pretty anti Biden now.  His gaffe response to women questioning his prolonged embraces and touches didn't help any. At one point I could have voted for Biden; but he seems to be taking the McCain do anything approach to winning the nomination so far. Didn't vote for McCain, and will not vote for Biden- unless he develops a backbone.

 
 
 
Texan1211
9.1.20  Texan1211  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @9.1.11    3 weeks ago
I think Obama kind of proves that point wrong.

https://www.politico.com/story/2008/11/exit-polls-how-obama-won-015297

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
9.1.21  seeder  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Texan1211 @9.1.8    3 weeks ago

First of all, please don't imply I am crazy with that emoticon. 

Second, I think Comey put enough doubt into the mix. People are odd beings. They tend to remember the worse, and if that is what they caught and they were on the fence, then that is what they will remember. 

 
 
 
Sparty On
9.1.23  Sparty On  replied to  Texan1211 @9.1.17    3 weeks ago

You beat me to it.  

Spot on!

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
9.1.24  seeder  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Texan1211 @9.1.16    3 weeks ago

Look at your dates. 

Oct. 28, 2016: In a letter to the leaders of congressional oversight committees, Comey notifies Congress that the FBI is reopening the investigation into the handling of classified information in connection with Democratic presidential candidate Clinton.

"The FBI has learned of the existence of emails that appear to be pertinent to the investigation," Comey writes. "I am writing to inform you that the investigative team briefed me on this yesterday, and I agreed that the FBI should take appropriate investigative steps designed to allow investigators to review these emails to determine whether they contain classified information, as well as to assess their importance to our investigation."

Republicans quickly jumped on the opportunity to bash Clinton. At a rally in New Hampshire, Trump said, "Hillary Clinton's corruption is on a scale we have never seen before." And the Republican National Committee added that the FBI's decision to reopen the investigation ahead of the election "shows how serious this discovery must be."

No information was revealed about the content of the newly uncovered emails. But by the end of the day, sources had confirmed to NPR the emails were found through an unrelated criminal investigation of Anthony Weiner, the disgraced former representative who was married to a top Clinton aide at the time.

Oct. 30-31, 2016: The FBI obtains the search warrant necessary to examine the newly found emails. At this point, there's still no confirmation of whether the emails contained any new information or even whether they were sent or received by Clinton.

During this time, the assistant attorney general writes a letter to Democratic senators assuring them that the Justice Department is dedicating "all necessary resources" to go through the emails as quickly as possible.

These stories illustrate the vague daily news dribble, spurred by Comey's announcement, that helped get the words "Clinton" and "email" back into headlines just a week before voters went to the polls.

Nov. 6, 2016: Comey announces that the new trove of emails doesn't change the FBI's recommendation that the Justice Department not charge Clinton for her handling of classified information.

"Since my letter, the FBI investigative team has been working around the clock to process and review a large volume of emails from a device obtained in connection with an unrelated criminal investigation," Comey writes to 16 chairmen and ranking members of relevant House and Senate committees. "Based on our review, we have not changed our conclusions that we expressed in July with respect to Secretary Clinton."

Sources told NPR that almost every email the FBI reviewed in the new batch was a duplicate of an email the bureau had already seen.

Trump uses the news to call the FBI, and Comey by extension, "rigged."

"Right now, [Clinton's] being protected by a rigged system," Trump told a crowd in Michigan. "You can't review 650,000 new emails in eight days — you just can't do it, folks. Hillary Clinton is guilty."

Nov. 8, 2016: Trump defeats Clinton in the presidential election, with an Electoral College victory of 306 to 232. Clinton wins the popular vote by almost 3 million votes. Trump will become the next president of the United States.

Neither Clinton nor Trump mentions Comey or the Oct. 28 letter in election night speeches.

So even on Nov 6, 2 days before the election, he is still sowing the seeds of doubt with his "new trove of emails", and you don't think that affects the election.

Now that is really silly. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
9.1.25  Texan1211  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @9.1.21    3 weeks ago
First of all, please don't imply I am crazy with that emoticon.

It CLEARLY was not directed to you.

it is a little unbelievable to me that people would think that:

A. That most voters had not made their voting decision less than two weeks away from the election after months and months of campaigning. Ain't no way I'll ever buy that.

B. That Comey's letter made a HUGE difference to voters--most of whom had already decided that either Hillary was completely innocent or that she committed some shady stuff.

C. That basically exonerating Hillary didn't carry any weight compared to a mere "reopening" of an investigation.

 
 
 
Texan1211
9.1.27  Texan1211  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @9.1.24    3 weeks ago

Comey's letter to Congress reopening the investigation didn't tell us anything new. We already had evidence that Clinton had classified info in her emails. The only surprise for us was that someone like Weiner would have HER emails on HIS computer.

Comey didn't cast any doubt on November 6 --he just reconfirmed what we already knew--that Hillary would not be charged with anything.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
9.1.28  seeder  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Texan1211 @9.1.25    3 weeks ago

Well, I happen to personally know 3 people that it did make a difference. All independents. The reason you find it so hard to believe is because you are a partisan and they were not. 

Were they leaning, yes. But that was the icing on the cake. 

btw... they thought the choices were so bad, they voted for Gary Johnson in protest. They would have voted for Hillary. 

 
 
 
Ender
9.1.29  Ender  replied to  Ronin2 @9.1.19    3 weeks ago
but losing Sanders supporters probably cost her the election

I kind of have to agree with you. Imo there was a lot of butthurt Sanders supporters that would not vote for her.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
9.1.30  seeder  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Texan1211 @9.1.27    3 weeks ago
Comey didn't cast any doubt on November 6 --he just reconfirmed what we already knew--that Hillary would not be charged with anything.

Which implies that there was something wrong, but not enough.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
9.1.31  seeder  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Ender @9.1.29    3 weeks ago
I kind of have to agree with you. Imo there was a lot of butthurt Sanders supporters that would not vote for her.

I can agree with that. People get petty. These are the same people complain the most about Trump. The irony. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
9.1.32  JohnRussell  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @9.1.24    3 weeks ago

Wait a minute, I thought Comey was part of a cabal that worked against Trump during the election. That is what right wing media says. And Trump. You mean thats all bullshit? jrSmiley_26_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Jasper2529
9.1.33  Jasper2529  replied to  JohnRussell @9.1.5    3 weeks ago
Maybe a word other than "deplorable" would have been better,

She also called Trump supporters "irredeemable", so I suppose that's better than being "deplorable".

 
 
 
Texan1211
9.1.34  Texan1211  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @9.1.30    3 weeks ago
Which implies that there was something wrong, but not enough.

I have it on the good authority of many fine folks here that if an investigation occurs, and no charges are ever filed, the person under investigation is innocent of wrongdoing.

 
 
 
Texan1211
9.1.35  Texan1211  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @9.1.28    3 weeks ago
Well, I happen to personally know 3 people that it did make a difference. All independents. The reason you find it so hard to believe is because you are a partisan and they were not.

Leaves me to wonder what exactly they were waiting on to make a decision. After months and months of campaigning, what were they hoping to hear in the last 8 days from any candidate that hadn't already been said to make a decision?

 
 
 
Tessylo
9.1.36  Tessylo  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @9.1.21    3 weeks ago

She's just taking continual swipes at me because she cannot comment on my seeds

Also she is implying I am the crazy one with that emoticon 

 
 
 
Greg Jones
9.1.37  Greg Jones  replied to  Ozzwald @9.1.10    3 weeks ago
(since it has been revealed that Russia did hack some voting machines)

If that was true you would have posted a source. No votes were changed.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
9.1.38  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @9.1.2    3 weeks ago

I think the ideal Democrat candidate would be an unemployed black anti-Semite trans-woman atheist devotee of Che Gueverra Stars and Stripes burning Anthem-kneeling American-born child of illegal Latino immigrants - Does that cover the waterfront of progressive leftists?

 
 
 
JBB
9.1.39  JBB  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @9.1.38    3 weeks ago

Why do you wish ill upon America? Good thing you do not get a vote...

 
 
 
Tessylo
9.1.40  Tessylo  replied to  JBB @9.1.39    3 weeks ago

Thank goodness for that!

 
 
 
Texan1211
9.1.41  Texan1211  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @9.1.38    3 weeks ago
I think the ideal Democrat candidate would be an unemployed black anti-Semite trans-woman atheist devotee of Che Gueverra Stars and Stripes burning Anthem-kneeling American-born child of illegal Latino immigrants - Does that cover the waterfront of progressive leftists?

I think you did a stellar job there, but I have the feeling that surely you must have missed some small group of the perpetually-offended.

LOL!

 
 
 
Texan1211
9.1.42  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @9.1.39    3 weeks ago
Why do you wish ill upon America? Good thing you do not get a vote...

He did nothing of the sort.

Where did you read that at?

 
 
 
Texan1211
9.1.43  Texan1211  replied to  Sparty On @9.1.23    3 weeks ago
You beat me to it.
Spot on!

Math is soooo hard!

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
9.1.44  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  JBB @9.1.39    3 weeks ago

I used to love America - travelled it from Hawaii and California to Massachusetts and Florida, even owned a golf condo in Florida, went to classical and folk music festivals there, spent my vacations there, but then Obama stabbed Israel in the back, the Democrats welcomed and supported anti-Semites into their party, neighbour to neighbour hatred grew just because of politics, mainstream media ultra-bias, the country became one huge shooting gallery... I don't wish ill upon America - I wish it would recover. My comment was aimed at pointing out the present-day insanity.

 
 
 
bccrane
9.1.45  bccrane  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @9.1.24    3 weeks ago

The FBI knew about the emails on Weiner's laptop for a month before Comey did anything about them.  Comey started a new investigation before Hillary became president to help her after she won.  

Comey had to investigate or show he attempted to investigate the matter before Hillary became president, if he had waited until after the election of Hillary and then brought up the new found emails the republican controlled congress and senate would have been compelled to investigate and thus finding out that Comey knew before the election about the emails and did nothing, not only would he lose his job, but Hillary would have been facing impeachment herself with republicans in control of the investigation.  With the new investigation before the election, he saved Hillary the trouble of facing impeachment.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
9.1.46  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Texan1211 @9.1.41    3 weeks ago

There are, but as usual I will be chastised for saying it by the self-styled angels on this site.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
9.1.47  JohnRussell  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @9.1.44    3 weeks ago

Buzz, your problem is that you are someone who is living in China portraying yourself as a "single issue" voter (commentator) on American politics and society and your issue is anti-semitism and the promotion of Israel.  While there is nothing wrong with your single issues as such, they are not at the forefront of what is going on in America.  They have led you to, very bizarrely in my opinion, belittle and diminish all concerns about Trump, and magnify all concerns about "political correctness"  beyond all proportion. 

You are out of touch. It is not your fault, but as you keep emphasizing your issues to the exclusion of all others it seems like you are getting more defensive personally. 

The most bizarre thing you do is continue to act as if Trump is popular and people who oppose him are just mean spirited extremists.  That is completely wrong but you cannot see that from where you are.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
9.1.48  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  JohnRussell @9.1.47    3 weeks ago

As I have clarified previously for you I will clarify for others that the only thing about Trump that I support is his support for Israel.  Otherwise, he has bullied the Prime Minister of my country of citizenship, and his trade war with China is costing me money.  However, if Dershowitz says what he might do is legal, or if he has been unjustifiably attacked or falsely accused of something, or his family or staff unfairly punished (spit, for example) then I will become a devil's advocate. Is the fact that I have made it clear that I have more respect for your flag and anthem than a lot of Americans part of that "single issue"?  And the fact that I will no longer step one foot in your shooting gallery of a country part of that "single issue"?  How about Obama's gift to Iran giving them the funds to continue (even increase) world wide terrorism?  Oh, is that part of the "single issue" as well?

More than once I have complimented you for your articulate ability and multiple interests.  I really am beginning to resent that you cannot stop chastising me for not joining you in your daily crucifixion of the President of the United States.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
9.1.49  seeder  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @9.1.38    3 weeks ago

Why are you saying that to me? I'm an independent

And what makes you think that is the ideal dem? ( I get on good word from my dad, that he has a different kind of dem in mind).

I'm kind of confused.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
9.1.50  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @9.1.49    3 weeks ago

Wow!  That comment refers WAY back to where you were discussing Biden and other possible contenders to the Democrat crown.  Lots of scrolling to get back there.

I guess I made that comment as a parody of what the leftists progressives would support.

 
 
 
Ronin2
9.1.51  Ronin2  replied to  Ozzwald @9.1.10    3 weeks ago

Funny, outside of voter databases, secretary of states offices, election boards, and companies that make voting machines- I couldn't find an article that stated a single voting machine was hacked- or one vote changed.

https://www.rollcall.com/news/whitehouse/barrs-conclusion-no-obstruction-gets-new-scrutiny

https://www.npr.org/2019/04/19/714890832/mueller-report-raises-new-questions-about-russias-hacking-targets-in-2016

There's no evidence that any of these hacking attempts — successful or not — affected the actual operations or outcome of elections in 2016. But some cybersecurity experts have raised the possibility that hackers planted malicious software that remains undetected. Moreover, the mere existence of cyberattacks against voting systems has served toundermine voters' confidence in elections.

Mueller is proving he is a bigger POS than Comey. No evidence, but he put up enough smoke to make those that already question the election results think Russia gave Trump the victory.

 
 
 
Tessylo
9.1.52  Tessylo  replied to  Ronin2 @9.1.51    3 weeks ago

You're not looking hard enough.  

A lot of states had compromised voting machines/hacked.  If you don't think that had any effect on outcomes, well, that's foolish.  

I don't give a shit what you say about Comey, I think he really fucked things up for Hillary but your condemnation of a war hero and a man of integrity, Mueller, really takes the fucking cake.  

Comey, no evidence?  That's just whack.  

 
 
 
MUVA
9.1.53  MUVA  replied to  Tessylo @9.1.52    3 weeks ago

You are literally the only person to believe voting machines were hacked and changed the outcome of the election.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
9.1.54  Tessylo  replied to  MUVA @9.1.53    3 weeks ago

Not true.  

 
 
 
FLYNAVY1
9.1.55  FLYNAVY1  replied to  Texan1211 @9.1.16    3 weeks ago

To me, that is unbelievable and silly.

With your myopic political point of view I'm sure you see it that way, but to the larger overall population, and the voters, we know it to be spot on.

Furthermore,  Mc Connell, having been reported to about the potential involvement of Russians within the Trump election team by the FBI, and other security agencies made it clear that any announcement to this information would be painted as a partisan political move by him and the GOP.

So here we have the public investigation into HRCs later cleared by the FBI, and the kept quiet Russian investigation that has resulted in indictments, guilty pleas, and prison sentences.  Obviously you're just fine with the double standard Tex.  

 
 
 
Sparty On
9.1.56  Sparty On  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @9.1.44    3 weeks ago

Don't buy into the hate Buzz.   That's what the haters want.   America is still the same country she's always been.   Full of mostly good people who just want to live and live.   Desiring only to thrive, take care of our families, neighbors, fellow countryman and to be left alone by the few who want to control our every move.   Show me a progressive and i'll show you a totalitarian screaming to get out.   Most American's are not that, no matter how loud the one's who are scream at the sky are.

And I really don't think there's more haters these days, its just that they have all these newish venues to sow their messages of hate and intolerance.   I mean really, look no further than NT for examples of that.   How long has NT been in existence?    Not long and look at all the sanctimonious, self justified hate you see on here.

We don't need to recover.   We just need everyone to start thinking for themselves and not be manipulated by the plethora of media driven haters out there.   That includes people in other countries as well.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
9.1.57  JohnRussell  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @9.1.48    3 weeks ago
I think the ideal Democrat candidate would be an unemployed black anti-Semite trans-woman atheist devotee of Che Gueverra Stars and Stripes burning Anthem-kneeling American-born child of illegal Latino immigrants - Does that cover the waterfront of progressive leftists?

That is a ridiculous comment.  One of your problems Buzz is that you are out of the loop so to speak. You imagine things about America and inflate them out of all proportion. The Democratic Party is not anti-semitic or anti-Israel. Transgenders are not a driving force in Democratic politics, atheists are basically a non issue in American politics, Che Guevera has been dead for 50 years, flag burning hardly ever occurs, only a literal handful of people protest the national anthem, and illegal immigration on the whole is no different than it has been for decades. Your "issues" are not big issues. Health care is a big issue, income inequality is a big issue, racism is a big issue. Anti-semitism is a big issue, but Democratic Party anti-semitism is not. It is a made up issue. You are becoming in thrall to right wing cranks. 

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
9.1.58  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  JohnRussell @9.1.57    3 weeks ago

Boy, when it comes to politics you sure as hell take what I say really seriously.  You need the advice that your famous American philosopher, Churchy La Femme from the Okefenokee swamp, one of Pogo's friends, has to say: "Don't take life so serious, son. It ain't nohow permanent."

 
 
 
Split Personality
9.1.59  Split Personality  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @9.1.44    3 weeks ago
but then Obama stabbed Israel in the back,

http://www.njdc.org/oped062315

American Jews do not despise Obama,  especially that $38 Billion in military aid

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2016/09/united-states-israel-memorandum-of-understanding-military-aid/500192/

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
9.1.60  Trout Giggles  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @9.1.58    3 weeks ago

How was he supposed to take that comment about the "ideal dem"?

I'm a democrat and I sure as hell don't want a Che Guavera in the White House.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
9.1.61  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Split Personality @9.1.59    3 weeks ago

So you make it "all about the Benjamins" eh?  I make it about the political stab in the back at the UN.  Who was it who said that in the event of a conflict he stands with the Muslims?

I'm not going to waste my time again to talk about the US having the biggest aircraft carrier in the world in the Middle East without having to have one American soldier on board - (Alexander Haig).

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
9.1.62  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Trout Giggles @9.1.60    3 weeks ago

I'll bet there are a lot of young progressives who have his poster up in their rooms, or wear a T-shirt with his visage.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
9.1.63  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Trout Giggles @9.1.60    3 weeks ago

"I'm a democrat and I sure as hell don't want a Che Guavera in the White House."

Bill De Blasio Quotes Che Guevara at Miami Airport Union Rally

"State Senator Annette Taddeo, who attended the rally but said she left before de Blasio spoke, said she was "utterly disgusted" by the comment.

"This is completely unacceptable! How can anyone wanting to be the leader of the free world quote a murderous guerrilla -in Miami no less! A community filled with his victims!" Taddeo tweeted."

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Trout Giggles
9.1.64  Trout Giggles  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @9.1.62    2 weeks ago

I will send you 5 Canadian dollars if you can find just one young person (under 25) with Guevera's poster in his or her room

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
9.1.65  Trout Giggles  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @9.1.63    2 weeks ago

Who cares, Buzz????

Are any of those people me? Did I say those things?

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
9.1.66  Trout Giggles  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @9.1.63    2 weeks ago

Who cares, Buzz????

None of those people are named "Trout Giggles"

And I never said the words they uttered. I could give a shit what Bill Deblasio spouts

 
 
 
Sparty On
9.1.67  Sparty On  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @9.1.62    2 weeks ago

I see younger folks wearing them all the time around my town.   Most don't even know who he is.  

So..... I'm thinking for getting one of these to wear ..... you know,  for the kids ..... as a history lesson as it were ....

256

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
9.1.68  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Trout Giggles @9.1.64    2 weeks ago

If you send me return airfare from Chongqing to San Francisco I'll find progressive Berkeley students who do.  

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
9.1.69  Trout Giggles  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @9.1.68    2 weeks ago

Are you sure they know who he is?

I thought they weren't teaching history in school anymore...that's what everybody is saying anyway

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
10  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh    3 weeks ago

Open borders = more dead migrants floating in the Rio Grande......."Cheers from the Crowd".

Free Abortions for Biological Males. "Beto and Booker whistle and clap while the crowd looks confused"

Free college for all, including anyone who wants to sneak across our border from wherever. Oh and student loan forgiveness so the middle class gets stuck with the tab. 

Reparations for Blacks, illegal aliens, and the LGBTQWNBA, "Mrs. Doubtfire stands up and claps"!

Behind candidates was a sign that blinked Free every once in a while to get cheers from the crowd. When that lost it's luster they flashed a picture of Che Guevara and got the standing ovations.

384

 
 
 
Sunshine
10.1  Sunshine  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @10    3 weeks ago

Tonight will be the encore performance for the FREESHIT-ALAPALOOZA.

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
10.1.1  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  Sunshine @10.1    3 weeks ago

The only thing that could make it better is if one of the candidates takes a 20 minute break to take a dump during a 2 minute commercial break like Hillary did with Bernie.

original

 
 
 
Tessylo
10.1.2  Tessylo  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @10.1.1    3 weeks ago

Thank you as always for your relevant and tactful memes.  

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
10.1.3  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  Tessylo @10.1.2    3 weeks ago

It's more than a meme, she actually had to take a husk during the primary debate with Bernie. They went to break and she left Bernie standing alone for 20 minutes while she tore up the place.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
10.1.4  Trout Giggles  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @10.1.3    3 weeks ago

How the hell would you know? Were you handing her the toilet paper?

Jesus, BF! Sometimes you're just ridiculous

 
 
 
 
JohnRussell
10.1.6  JohnRussell  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @10.1.5    3 weeks ago

I know it's not your style, but let's examine the facts. 

from your link   -   i  bolded some relevant phrases

GOFFSTOWN, N.H. — As the third Democratic debate faded to a five-minute commercial break, Hillary Clinton had exactly one minute and 45 seconds to walk out of the gymnasium at St. Anselm College to the ladies’ restroom and one minute and 45 seconds to return to her place on stage.

Not a lot of wiggle room.

With the men’s room significantly closer to the debate stage, Mrs. Clinton’s male opponents, Bernie Sanders and Martin O’Malley, made it back quicker and, well, it takes women longer, as Mrs. Clinton pointed out after returning slightly late from a commercial break during the first Democratic debate in Las Vegas.

Television alotted 5 minutes for the bathroom break and all three contestants took advantage of it. Sanders and OMalley's bathroom was closer and it did not take them three minutes to walk there and back like it took Clinton. 

Still, the newspaper article says she returned "slightly late" after the 5 minutes of commercials.  The "20 minutes" is a figment of your imagination then, no? 

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
10.1.7  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  JohnRussell @10.1.6    3 weeks ago

She had an incontinence problem John, and Her and Huma ate a lot of Chipolte, bad move. The Burrito of doom took her out during the debate. She clogged that toilet, they had to get a knife to cut it in half and then plunge the candidate's massive turd.

512

 
 
 
JohnRussell
10.1.8  JohnRussell  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @10.1.7    3 weeks ago

Maybe she was having one of those fits you posted videos to, where her head bobbled in weird directions and she slurred her words. Right? 

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
10.1.9  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  JohnRussell @10.1.8    3 weeks ago

Do you think Huma was in the bathroom with her coaching her on Lamaze techniques to birth the massive burrito? Breath......puuuuuuuuuush!

 
 
 
Tessylo
10.1.10  Tessylo  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @10.1.7    3 weeks ago

Exactly what I expect from you - toilet humor.  

Thanks again.  

humor that is characterized by coarse references to bodily functions.
"the kind of toilet humor that would be considered immature by self-respecting fifth-graders"

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
10.1.11  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  Tessylo @10.1.10    3 weeks ago

Yes of course, Tessylo would never author a comment of that nature.....

jrSmiley_97_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Tessylo
10.1.12  Tessylo  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @10.1.11    3 weeks ago

You can call me ma'am or Ms.  I prefer people that I like to call me Tess or Tessy.  

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
10.1.13  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  Tessylo @10.1.12    3 weeks ago

Roger that.....

You can call me "Points out Irony".

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
10.1.15  Trout Giggles  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @10.1.9    3 weeks ago

Ok...you need some lessons on your lower intestine and your alimentary canal in general.

Let's say she did eat a burrito that caused a stomach issue. I doubt very much if she had to pass a giant turd like a baby. More like she had diarrhea...which you should know how that works.

You ain't helping yerself here

And many women are incontinent. There's a whole industry devoted to helping women with incontinence problems

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
10.1.16  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  Trout Giggles @10.1.15    3 weeks ago

Please forgive me,

I just get so excited when John and I debate Hillary's bathroom habits.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
10.1.17  JohnRussell  replied to  Trout Giggles @10.1.15    3 weeks ago

BF is already scouring the bowels of the internet in search of 'material' for next years election. 

 
 
 
Jasper2529
10.1.18  Jasper2529  replied to  Sunshine @10.1    3 weeks ago

I hope they can keep me interested longer than 30 minutes. I got bored after Robert Francis spoke espanol and Booker tried (again) to convince everybody that he actually lives in Newark's ghetto neighborhoods.

 
 
 
XDm9mm
10.1.19  XDm9mm  replied to  JohnRussell @10.1.17    3 weeks ago
BF is already scouring the bowels of the internet in search of 'material' for next years election. 

No need to scour any bowels.  The Democrat party is supplying sufficient material daily.

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
10.1.20  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  JohnRussell @10.1.17    3 weeks ago
BF is already scouring the bowels of the internet in search of 'material' for next years election. 

True enough!

Prepare for it!

The politicians this country are an absolute joke and i plan to put them on display!

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
10.1.21  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Tessylo @10.1.10    3 weeks ago

Who uses toilet humour?  Who on this site always calls the POTUS a "turd"? 

 
 
 
Tessylo
10.1.22  Tessylo  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @10.1.21    3 weeks ago

A turd is a turd.

I'm not the one obsessed with Hillary's bathroom habits.

I believe that is a mental disorder

 
 
 
Texan1211
10.1.23  Texan1211  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @10.1.21    3 weeks ago

ooh, touche, sir.

Well played!

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
10.1.24  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @10.1.1    3 weeks ago

Maybe she needed the time to memorize her prepared answers to the questions that were fed to her before the "performance".

 
 
 
Freedom Warrior
10.1.25  Freedom Warrior  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @10.1.1    3 weeks ago

 In Burnie wearing depends now 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
10.1.26  Trout Giggles  replied to  Jasper2529 @10.1.18    3 weeks ago

Why are you so concerned about them keeping you interested? You won't ever vote for a democrat....not in 2020 you won't

 
 
 
Jasper2529
10.1.27  Jasper2529  replied to  Trout Giggles @10.1.26    3 weeks ago
Why are you so concerned about them keeping you interested?
You won't ever vote for a democrat....not in 2020 you won't

I never said that I was "concerned" about them keeping me interested, Trout. Those are your words, not mine.

Well-informed people learn about both political parties' and candidates' positions. My voting record, past or future, is my business, but you'd be surprised if you actually knew my voting record instead of making hostile assumptions.

Have a great weekend.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
10.1.28  Trout Giggles  replied to  Jasper2529 @10.1.27    3 weeks ago
I hope they can keep me interested longer than 30 minutes.

You didn't type those words?

Hostile assumptions? Now you're assuming the intent of my words. I meant no hostility but it's obvious from your statements here at NT you won't be voting for the Democratic nominee.

 
 
 
It Is ME
10.1.29  It Is ME  replied to  Trout Giggles @10.1.28    3 weeks ago
You didn't type those words?

Doesn't sound like a "Concern" to me. 

More like a hope ….. as noted in the specific comment !

hope
[hōp]

NOUN
a feeling of expectation and desire for a certain thing to happen.

 
 
 
Sunshine
10.1.30  Sunshine  replied to  It Is ME @10.1.29    3 weeks ago
Doesn't sound like a "Concern" to me.

Naw...not concerned at all in those words.

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Jasper2529
10.1.31  Jasper2529  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @10.1.21    3 weeks ago
Who uses toilet humour?  Who on this site always calls the POTUS a "turd"? 

"Shit stain" is another favorite. Seems that some people have a fecal fetish.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
10.1.32  Trout Giggles  replied to  Sunshine @10.1.30    3 weeks ago

[Deleted]

 
 
 
Jasper2529
10.1.33  Jasper2529  replied to  Sunshine @10.1.30    3 weeks ago

and 10.1.29  It Is ME 

Thank you.

 
 
 
Sparty On
10.1.34  Sparty On  replied to  Trout Giggles @10.1.32    3 weeks ago

[Deleted]

 
 
 
Sunshine
10.1.36  Sunshine  replied to  Sparty On @10.1.34    3 weeks ago
Removed for context - s

[Deleted]

 
 
 
1stwarrior
10.2  1stwarrior  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @10    3 weeks ago

Julián Castro, Democratic Presidential candidate, and former HUD Secretary under Obama, said (with a straight face) during the first Democratic debate that he supports Federal funding, ie your tax dollars, to be used for transgender females to get abortions, much to the approval of the cheering audience. So called "transgender females" are biological males. Now just let that sink in for a minute. These are your democrats.

 
 
 
Jasper2529
10.2.1  Jasper2529  replied to  1stwarrior @10.2    3 weeks ago

Castro had to invent a new "free stuff" gambit, because the other candidates have already offered "free" healthcare and education for all. 

 
 
 
r.t..b...
11  r.t..b...    3 weeks ago

The show of 'hands' was a sad reminder of the 2016 GOP cage-match. The whole debacle is painful to watch and ultimately an exercise in futility. Shorten the campaign season, limit the number of 'debates' and require full disclosure of contributors. Alas, too late for this cycle, but the apathy that is sure to set in is detrimental to the entire process. It's doubtful either party wants the lunatic fringe of their opponent setting policy...and inevitably the tables will be turned.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
11.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  r.t..b... @11    3 weeks ago

Not only the apathy but the malaise and exhaustion. I know I was mighty exhausted by November 7, 2016.

 
 
 
WallyW
12  WallyW    3 weeks ago

They have already given up the 2020 election by putting up such weak candidates.

Their only goal is to get rid of Trump

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
12.1  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  WallyW @12    3 weeks ago
Their only goal is to get rid of Trump

That is the goal of the majority of Americans so it follows that the candidates would focus on that. Being "Not Trump" is a huge boost for every one of these candidates when you have 55% of the nation who disapproves of Trump and the job he's doing as President.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/203198/presidential-approval-ratings-donald-trump.aspx

 
 
 
Sparty On
12.1.1  Sparty On  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @12.1    3 weeks ago

Don't worry, according to most Trump will never be President ...... Doh ..... flashback to 2016 ........

 
 
 
livefreeordie
12.1.2  livefreeordie  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @12.1    3 weeks ago

How quickly the left forgets

“These results are based on Gallup Daily tracking from July 20-Oct. 19, 2011. During this time, Obama's approval rating ranged narrowly between 38% and 43% for all but a few days of the quarter. The 38% approval ratings, registered on several occasions, are the lowest of his presidency to date.”

From a broader historical perspective, Obama's 11th-quarter approval average of 41% ranks 220th out of the 262 presidential quarters for which Gallup has data since the Truman administration. That translates to the 16th percentile, placing it in the bottom fifth of presidential quarters. Thus, Obama's recent approval ratings are well below average.”

https://news.gallup.com/poll/150230/obama-job-approval-average-slides-new-low-11th-quarter.aspx

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
12.1.3  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  livefreeordie @12.1.2    3 weeks ago

Obama certainly went through some dips, but had averaged by the 11th quarter 50% approval and is currently at 59% approval for the job he did as President. Trumps average is 40% approval to date.

In your own link from 2011: "Obama's approval rating for his entire term to date now averages 50%."

Trump will never be as popular as President Obama and will always be remembered as a feckless moron who tried to destroy western democracy and gladly accepted aid in an election from an enemy foreign government who also wants to destroy western democracy.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
12.1.4  Greg Jones  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @12.1    3 weeks ago

Whatever.

It's going to take a stellar character with excellent credentials and relevant experience to beat Trump. None of this current crop of slugs and stiffs has what it takes.

 
 
 
Ender
13  Ender    3 weeks ago

I didn't watch the so called debate. Watched the end of The Amazing Race instead.

At least I got to see some people race around the world, not just the US, and someone not a political candidate get a million bucks.

It is ridiculous, some of these people that somehow think they have a shot, even when they don't, just need to back out. Until some of these people are out and we can have a normal debate I will continue to tune it out.

They are only hurting themselves at this point.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
13.1  seeder  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Ender @13    3 weeks ago
They are only hurting themselves at this point.

Indeedy

 
 
 
r.t..b...
13.2  r.t..b...  replied to  Ender @13    3 weeks ago
some of these people that somehow think they have a shot,

Perhaps a case of gaining name recognition or a resume building exercise as 'presidential hopeful' in their next run for Congress or Senate. Looking ahead to a position where they can yield much more influence as a legislator in garnering plum party or committee leadership posts. Or more likely, a quixotic attempt to satisfy the power hungry appetite that seems to eventually affect all office holders.

 
 
 
Ender
13.2.1  Ender  replied to  r.t..b... @13.2    3 weeks ago

I have to say, the latter was the first that popped into my head.

 
 
 
r.t..b...
13.2.2  r.t..b...  replied to  Ender @13.2.1    3 weeks ago
I have to say, the latter was the first that popped into my head.

Who really desires to be the answer to the 'where are they now' article? The old maxim about 'any publicity...' 

 
 
 
tomwcraig
13.3  tomwcraig  replied to  Ender @13    3 weeks ago

Sometimes a person runs to get their ideas out there.  The problem with this current field is that all but 2 of them are running on identical platforms and those 2 that aren't are considered persona non grata due to pushing what would be considered somewhat centrist ideals.  Essentially, those ideas that Democrats praised Bill Clinton for supporting have now been thrown out and are considered too far Right-wing to be electable.

 
 
 
tomwcraig
14  tomwcraig    3 weeks ago

I didn't watch it, nor do I plan to watch the other 10 candidates debate, or what I call "Yeah! What (s)he said, but I offer more stuff and Trump is more evil than what they say he is!"

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
14.1  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  tomwcraig @14    3 weeks ago

Well if you have ever seen "One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest" you've seen it before.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
15  Sean Treacy    3 weeks ago

Taking away millions of peoples health insurance and taxpayer funded abortions for men...

And people claim the democrats haven't become more left wing this century...

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
15.1  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  Sean Treacy @15    3 weeks ago

Julian Castro is writing the book on "How to graduate from Harvard and be a total Idiot!"

 
 
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