Wasteland: Today's trash is going to be tomorrow's big problem

  
Via:  perrie-halpern  •  6 days ago  •  27 comments

Wasteland: Today's trash is going to be tomorrow's big problem
From coffee cups to cocktail stirrers, quick-fire trash is quickly becoming a big problem. This is Wasteland, a deep dive into what we throw out and how it affects what's next. This episode explores the impact of the massive amounts of garbage we produce and what we are going to do with it all.

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Perrie Halpern R.A.
1  seeder  Perrie Halpern R.A.    6 days ago

It almost seems insurmountable. And it's more than I ever expected. How about you?

 
 
 
MrFrost
1.1  MrFrost  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @1    6 days ago
It almost seems insurmountable.

At this point, it pretty much is. 

 
 
 
Greg Jones
1.1.1  Greg Jones  replied to  MrFrost @1.1    5 days ago

That's why I put it down the trash chute in the hallway and forget about it. Trash and garbage have been a problem since antiquity and I simply don't have the time or energy to worry about a problem I didn't cause and can't do anything about anyway.

 
 
 
SteevieGee
1.2  SteevieGee  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @1    5 days ago

Before you buy any product you should consider the packaging.  A few years ago I quit buying eggs in the plastic cartons and only buy them if packaged in the cardboard cartons.  I don't buy coffee at places that use styrofoam cups and usually don't use a lid.  I've been looking unsuccessfully for paper straws.  Single use items like cups and bubble packaging should be banned unless they're made from bio-plastics.  Look for the number 7 on the recycling symbol.  It's not recyclable but it is compostable.

 
 
 
XDm9mm
1.2.1  XDm9mm  replied to  SteevieGee @1.2    5 days ago

I hate to say this Steevie, but you apparently have not been looking very hard, unless of course you've limited your search drastically.

Here's what I found in less than 30 seconds on line:

https://www.amazon.com/s?k=paper+straws&ref=nb_sb_noss_1

** DISCLAIMER **  I neither work for nor own stock in AMAZON.

 
 
 
Jasper2529
1.2.2  Jasper2529  replied to  SteevieGee @1.2    5 days ago
Before you buy any product you should consider the packaging.  A few years ago I quit buying eggs in the plastic cartons and only buy them if packaged in the cardboard cartons.

Interesting. Several years ago, my town allowed both types of egg cartons to be recycled. A few years ago, they changed the rules - now they tell us to recycle plastic egg containers and throw the cardboard ones in the trash. We do weird things with metal cans with metal tops & plastic bottles/containers that have plastic tops, too. All tops go in the trash and the cans/bottles/containers go in recycling.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
2  Buzz of the Orient    6 days ago

There are methods already being used around the world converting waste to electricity and to fertilizers.

https://www.conserve-energy-future.com/waste-to-energy.php

 
 
 
MrFrost
3  MrFrost    6 days ago
Wasteland: Today's Trash Is Going To Be Tomorrow's Big Problem

It's been a problem for a couple of decades now. It's now such a huge problem that there are literally no solutions that don't cost trillions of dollars. What we see on land is only part of the problem. 

I apologize for the music, it's pretty horrible, just hit mute. 

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
4  Bob Nelson    6 days ago

All actions have consequences. The consequences of using a product that does not biodegrade are obvious.

Sometimes, there's a need that justifies misbehavior. In this case, there's no justification at all... and we are continuing blithely on...

I worry for my grandchildren... for this reason and so many others.

 
 
 
luther28
5  luther28    5 days ago

Today's trash is going to be tomorrow's big problem

I would have to say that apparently tomorrow has arrived. As a hiker, backpacker and half arsed cyclist, I can assure you that a quick trip down almost any roadside, path or walkway will give you instant insight into what oinkers many folks are.

One of my favorites was on the AT in Maine, approx. a mile in from a trailhead someone had dragged a full garbage bag in. If it had not been so pathetic I may have laughed, the effort that must have been expended dragging that trash in could have been eliminated by finding the nearest dumpster ( usually a MacDonalds).

Humans are the only animals that come to mind that willingly despoil their own environment, alas and alack.

 
 
 
Kathleen
6  Kathleen    5 days ago

I had paper straws for the first time. That is a beginning.

We need to clean up after ourselves like we tell out kids.

 
 
 
Kavika
7  Kavika     5 days ago

China was stopped taking US trash and that is going to be a huge problem. Malasia has as well.

https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2019/03/china-has-stopped-accepting-our-trash/584131/

 
 
 
It Is ME
8  It Is ME    5 days ago

Used to be that paper was the in thing, before it wasn't. At least paper can degrade over time. Plastics and styrofoam....not so much. But we have saved tree's.

Sometimes, good intensions come back and bite us in the butt. This is one of them times.

 
 
 
luther28
8.1  luther28  replied to  It Is ME @8    5 days ago
Sometimes, good intensions come back and bite us in the butt

As my sainted Mother would say:

The road to hell is paved with good intensions.

I am guessing it is quite a long road.

 
 
 
It Is ME
8.1.1  It Is ME  replied to  luther28 @8.1    5 days ago
The road to hell is paved with good intensions.

Moms are great !

 
 
 
luther28
8.1.2  luther28  replied to  It Is ME @8.1.1    5 days ago

We only get one :)

 
 
 
It Is ME
8.1.3  It Is ME  replied to  luther28 @8.1.2    5 days ago

Yep !

Grandmas are better though. jrSmiley_20_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Freefaller
8.1.4  Freefaller  replied to  luther28 @8.1.2    5 days ago

Lol I'm actually up to 5 moms now

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
8.2  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  It Is ME @8    5 days ago

Paper is also recyclable, as is cardboard.  In Toronto we used a "blue box" that we filled with paper, put out on the street on collection days for the recycling truck to collect the paper.  There was a second box for glass and plastics. 

 
 
 
Split Personality
8.2.1  Split Personality  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @8.2    5 days ago

Recycled material and products and collecting and selling go through the same cycles of supply and demand

as any other product affecting an individual community's ability to participate during unfavorable market economies.

Many communities simply have not been able to afford those simple collection methods during economic downturns.

Even when it's the law, some people are too lazy to properly separate materials causing additional expenses at the plantd.

 
 
 
It Is ME
8.2.2  It Is ME  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @8.2    4 days ago

A Few Recycling places in my state have shut down. Cost's are getting prohibitive to keep those places open.

 
 
 
XDm9mm
9  XDm9mm    5 days ago

If you want to do anything, contact the manufacturers and tell them you'll give them "X" amount of time to change their packaging or you will be changing for an alternative product....  and name that product.   

Nothing changes a corporate decision faster than a consumer decision.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
9.1  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  XDm9mm @9    5 days ago

I rarely agree with you, but you are spot on.jrSmiley_13_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Nerm_L
10  Nerm_L    5 days ago

Environmentalists killed off applied research.  The Sierra Club became an obstacle to addressing the problem of trash and waste in the 1980s.  EPA established insurmountable barriers for recovering, reclaiming, and reusing trash and waste streams.  Bill Clinton, Al Gore, and Newt Gingrich devoted themselves to shrinking the size of government and applied environmental research suffered.

Arm chair environmentalists accepted the political solution that if trash isn't seen, it isn't a problem.  NIMBY regulations are preventing any attempt to make meaningful progress addressing the problem of trash.

Keep in mind that the ocean is a harsh environment; shipping manufactured good by ocean transport requires packaging to protect from that environment.  Packaging becomes trash and that trash was specifically engineered to be stable under harsh environmental conditions.  The United States dependence upon imports has created an unintended consequence of persistent trash that remains stable in the harshest of environmental conditions.

The United States had its chance to address this problem 30 years ago and the politicians pissed that chance away to the cheers of arm chair environmentalists.  Environmentalists, EPA, and politicians have gotten exactly what they wanted.  It was cheap, easy, and politically 'woke'.  Stop bitchin' about it, sit back, and applaud the efforts of so many to create this future.  Environmentalists have done this; I know because I was there and watched it happen.

 
 
 
Ender
 
 
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12  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh    5 days ago

It's an exciting world for hoarders and trash collectors. 

One time I went to a customer's house to deliver paperwork. She is a successful Obgyn and when I walked it I was shocked. She had mountains of trash wall to wall in a Million dollar home. Everything from food wrappers to Qtips to panties and old appliances.

I had to bath in disinfectant when I left.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
13  Buzz of the Orient    4 days ago

Seems to me that it's time to start exploring new worlds to desecrate.

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(From the movie When Worlds Collide)

 
 
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