Tennessee governor declares day (July 13) honoring Confederate general and early Ku Klux Klan leader

  
Via:  john-russell  •  4 days ago  •  36 comments

 Tennessee governor declares day  (July 13) honoring Confederate general and early Ku Klux Klan leader
"I signed the bill because the law requires that I do that and I haven't looked at changing that law," Lee said Thursday.  According to The Tennessean, Lee declined to say if he thought the state law should be changed — something Tennessee Democrats have been hoping would happen. Previous efforts by Democrats have failed

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Tennessee Gov. Bill Lee signed a proclamation declaring July 13 Nathan Bedford Forrest Day. Forrest was a Confederate general, slave trader and an early leader of the Ku Klux Klan. 

A Tennessee law dating back to 1971 mandates that the governor must issue proclamations for six state holidays each year, including days for Nathan Bedford Forrest and Robert E. Lee, CBS Nashville affiliate WTVF reported. 

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According to the Tennessee code, the governor must declare January 19 as "Robert E. Lee Day"; February 12 as "Abraham Lincoln Day"; March 15 as "Andrew Jackson Day"; June 3 as "Memorial or Confederate Decoration Day"; July 13 as "Nathan Bedford Forrest Day"; and November 11, as "Veterans' Day."

"I signed the bill because the law requires that I do that and I haven't looked at changing that law," Lee said Thursday.  

According to The Tennessean, Lee declined to say if he thought the state law should be changed — something Tennessee Democrats have been hoping would happen. Previous efforts by Democrats have failed.  

"This a reminder of the painful and hurtful crimes that were committed against black people," Rep. Vincent Dixie of Nashville told WTVF.

Dixie said he was previously unaware July 13 was Nathan Bedford Forrest Day in Tennessee and criticized Lee's decision to sign the proclamation.

"Now you're signing a proclamation honoring the same people that fought to keep people that look like me, African Americans in slavery," Dixie said.

There is a bust of Forrest in the state capitol and there is a highly-visible statue of him on Interstate 65. There have been calls to remove the bust. The statue, which is on private property, is frequently defaced. 

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William Byron Lee is an American businessman and politician serving as the 50th governor of Tennessee since 2019. Elected in 2018, Lee campaigned as a business-oriented Republican. Before entering politics, he held various positions at the Lee Company, an inherited family business; he was the company's president and CEO from 1992 to 2016.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Lee_(Tennessee_politician)

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JohnRussell
1  seeder  JohnRussell    4 days ago
"I signed the bill because the law requires that I do that"

means

"I signed the bill because my political affiliation requires that I do that"

 
 
 
JohnRussell
2  seeder  JohnRussell    4 days ago

Why would one of the UNITED States proclaim a "day" honoring a confederate general?  Did Tennessee conservatives threaten to secede from the state if it didnt? 

 
 
 
XDm9mm
2.1  XDm9mm  replied to  JohnRussell @2    4 days ago
"I signed the bill because the law requires that I do that"

You already answered your question:

"I signed the bill because the law requires that I do that"
 
 
 
JohnRussell
2.1.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  XDm9mm @2.1    4 days ago

What would they do if he didnt sign it? Put him in prison? jrSmiley_10_smiley_image.gif

Claiming he is forced to is his excuse, not his reason. 

 
 
 
XDm9mm
2.1.2  XDm9mm  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.1    4 days ago
Claiming he is forced to is his excuse, not his reason. 

You know that as a fact?  Are you now a mind reader?   Or are you just ASSuming you know the answer?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
2.1.3  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  XDm9mm @2.1.2    4 days ago

Educated guess. 

 
 
 
XDm9mm
2.1.4  XDm9mm  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.3    4 days ago
Educated guess. 

You should have left off the "educated".

 
 
 
Texan1211
2.1.5  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.1    4 days ago

Why are you bitching so much about a state law passed by Democrats?

Had he BROKE the law, I am sure you would have been complaining about THAT, if it was a law you agreed with.

 
 
 
loki12
2.1.6  loki12  replied to  XDm9mm @2.1.4    4 days ago

Bill Clinton signed the law that designated that Arkansas celebrate Robert E Lee day on the very same day with the newly created Martin Luther King holiday, he was 1 of only 2 governors to do this. I bet there are racist on here today who voted for him and his wife who are now outraged by a governor following the law.

 
 
 
loki12
2.1.7  loki12  replied to  loki12 @2.1.6    4 days ago

If people wonder why some posters don’t come here anymore, this article would be an excellent example.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
2.1.8  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  loki12 @2.1.7    4 days ago
The governor, a college student at the time, was also pictured in an Auburn yearbook dressed in a Confederate Army uniform, a common practice for members of the fraternity at the time.

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A photo from an Auburn yearbook shows Gov. Bill Lee in a Confederate uniform at a fraternity party.Ayrika L Whitney, The Tennessean

 
 
 
MUVA
2.1.9  MUVA  replied to  XDm9mm @2.1.4    4 days ago

Yes I spit my drink out.

 
 
 
XDm9mm
2.1.10  XDm9mm  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.8    4 days ago
The governor, a college student at the time, was also pictured in an Auburn yearbook dressed in a Confederate Army uniform, a common practice for members of the fraternity at the time.

Reading is fundamental.   Do you understand the LAST THREE words of what you posted?  AT THE TIME.    Here's a hint JR, times change.

Hell, it was none other than Bill Clinton who said

“I loved being called the first Black president,” 

But I guess Billy wouldn't dare say that today.  He'd be tarred and feathered and run out of town.

 
 
 
Texan1211
2.1.11  Texan1211  replied to  XDm9mm @2.1.10    4 days ago
Hell, it was none other than Bill Clinton who said
“I loved being called the first Black president,”

Man, talk about your culture appropriation!

 
 
 
JohnRussell
3  seeder  JohnRussell    4 days ago

Next thing we will see is someone saying Nathan Bedford Forrest was a Democrat. 

Who wants to see this "day" honoring him ended?  The Democrats do. The Republicans don't.  Hmmm. 

 
 
 
XDm9mm
3.1  XDm9mm  replied to  JohnRussell @3    4 days ago
Next thing we will see is someone saying Nathan Bedford Forrest was a Democrat.

You can't escape the FACTS:

Nathan Bedford Forrest(July 13, 1821 – October 29, 1877) was a Confederate Army general during the American Civil War. Although scholars admire Forrest as a military strategist, he has remained a highly controversial figure in Southern racial history, especially for his alleged role in the massacre of black soldiers at Fort Pillow, his 1867–1869 leadership of the white-supremacist/terrorist Ku Klux Klan, and his political influence as a Tennessee delegate at the 1868 Democratic National Convention.

Source:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nathan_Bedford_Forrest

 
 
 
JBB
3.1.1  JBB  replied to  XDm9mm @3.1    4 days ago

Odd then, don't you think, the damn gop of Tennessee is honoring him today?

 
 
 
XDm9mm
3.1.2  XDm9mm  replied to  JBB @3.1.1    4 days ago
Odd then, don't you think, the damn gop of Tennessee is honoring him today?

Reading is fundamental.  Directly from the posted article:

According to the Tennessee code, the governor must declare January 19 as "Robert E. Lee Day"; February 12 as "Abraham Lincoln Day"; March 15 as "Andrew Jackson Day"; June 3 as "Memorial or Confederate Decoration Day"; July 13 as "Nathan Bedford Forrest Day"; and November 11, as "Veterans' Day."

"Code" by the way is another way to say according to the LAW.

 
 
 
MrFrost
3.2  MrFrost  replied to  JohnRussell @3    4 days ago

They are just mad because they lost the civil war. 

 
 
 
XDm9mm
3.2.1  XDm9mm  replied to  MrFrost @3.2    4 days ago
They are just mad because they lost the civil war.

Damn.  I doubt they're mad.  Hell, they weren't even alive then.  Were you?

 
 
 
MrFrost
3.2.2  MrFrost  replied to  XDm9mm @3.2.1    4 days ago

Gov. Bill Lee is dead? 

 
 
 
XDm9mm
3.2.3  XDm9mm  replied to  MrFrost @3.2.2    4 days ago
Gov. Bill Lee is dead? 

READING is fundamental:

Hell, they weren't even alive then.  Were you?
 
 
 
JBB
4  JBB    4 days ago

This is how the Gumps honor their no good racist halfwit forebear. Who knew?

 
 
 
Texan1211
4.1  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @4    4 days ago
This is how the Gumps honor their no good racist halfwit forebear. Who knew?

I will pretend that you don't know that Democrats passed that law forcing the governor to sign the proclamation. That is the only way I can square your unrighteous indignation over it NOW.

I AM a little curious why nobody ever uttered a peep when a Democratic governor did the same exact thing.

The faux poutrage is getting very, very old.

Find something real to care about.

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
5  igknorantzrulz    4 days ago

Another Trumpp victory ,

i guess.

 
 
 
Texan1211
5.1  Texan1211  replied to  igknorantzrulz @5    4 days ago
Another Trumpp victory ,

Oh, FFS.

WTF does Trump have to do with a fucking Democratic-passed law in Tennessee?

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
5.1.1  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Texan1211 @5.1    4 days ago

Trumpp has to do with a mindset.

Him accepting, and not calling out certain things, or glossing over them, instead of taking the bull by the horns and denouncing racist views, has opened the door for many to feel it is now OK to display their own racist view points.

For Fux Sake,

Prove me Wrong

 
 
 
WallyW
5.1.2  WallyW  replied to  igknorantzrulz @5.1.1    4 days ago

He denounces racist views every day, and certainly does not accept them.

Prove yourself right

 
 
 
Texan1211
5.1.3  Texan1211  replied to  igknorantzrulz @5.1.1    4 days ago
Trumpp has to do with a mindset.
Him accepting, and not calling out certain things, or glossing over them, instead of taking the bull by the horns and denouncing racist views, has opened the door for many to feel it is now OK to display their own racist view points.
For Fux Sake,
Prove me Wrong

Why the faux-poutrage?

Did you even KNOW of this Tennessean law before now?

If you did, where was your outrage when it was passed by a Democratic-majority state Legislature, where was it when other Governors--both Republican and Democratic signed the exact same thing according to law?

This doesn't have a freaking thing to do with Trump, except for a flare-up of TDS on your part.

The faux-poutrage IS rather impressive, though. So passionate, too!

 
 
 
JohnRussell
5.1.4  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Texan1211 @5.1.3    4 days ago
Did you even KNOW of this Tennessean law before now?

Are you under the delusion that the above comment is actually relevant? 

 
 
 
Texan1211
5.1.5  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @5.1.4    3 days ago

I am under no delusion when it comes to a side completely ignoring something for a long time, then bitching about it like it is relevant.

The faux-poutrage is funny though!

 
 
 
JohnRussell
5.1.6  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Texan1211 @5.1.5    3 days ago

Tex, things are relevant because they are relevant, not because one side or the other is bitching about them or not bitching about them. 

Because the great majority of your comments are nothing but "commentary" on other peoples comments it is probably natural that you think reactions are more relevant than actions. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
6  seeder  JohnRussell    4 days ago

It doesn't matter who created the bill or when, or if the governor of the state is Republican or Democrat or Independent. No where in the United States should there be a "day" honoring Nathan Bedford Forrest. 

This is exactly why some people of color feel enraged toward American governments and institutions. 

Just end the fricking day celebrating a racist traitor who helped start the KKK terrorist group.  Just end it. 

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
7  Bob Nelson    4 days ago

I'd post a picture of a lynching victim... but that's forbidden.

It's OK to show ISIS beheadings... but not to show American lynching...

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
8  Paula Bartholomew    3 days ago

It is TN...nuff said.

 
 
 
PJ
9  PJ    3 days ago

I think posters are approaching this wrong.  You are not going to get racists to admit that they are racists or to admit that their fellow racists shouldn't be honored.   You cannot shame a racist. 

If the law requires the proclamation be signed then why not launch a campaign to highlight the actions of the person being honored and how those actions impacted history. 

 
 
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