Here are the Trump comments that sparked controversy
Media is flipping out at these comments, claiming he told the ‘Gang of Four’ to “go back to their own countries.”
S E E D E D C O N T E N TSo interesting to see “Progressive” Democrat Congresswomen, who originally came from countries whose governments are a complete and total catastrophe, the worst, most corrupt and inept anywhere in the world (if they even have a functioning government at all), now loudly......
He doesn’t actually reference AOC, Tlaib, Pressley or Omar by name. So no, he’s not saying they’re all from another country originally, as media is trying to say. He’s probably just referring to Omar.
and viciously telling the people of the United States, the greatest and most powerful Nation on earth, how our government is to be run. Why don’t they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came. Then come back and show us how... badly, you can’t leave fast enough. I’m sure that Nancy Pelosi would be very happy to quickly work out free travel arrangements!
Nor does he is he saying just “go back to your own country,” it’s a much more nuanced comment in which he’s saying if they (Omar) thinks it’s so bad here, go back and solve the problem where you were and then come back and tell us how you did it. And thereby recognize how lucky it is that you are here. But media is skipping all that. Naturally.
But he should just not say anything when they are shooting themselves in the feet.
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Wapo, NYT and the rest of the MSM are omitting the actual tweet and editorializing about something he didn't say.
He actually has a great point. If America is so awful as we here ilhan Omar say all the time then go fix the shithole you came from and tell us how you did it.
Shocker. And the Left-wing anti Trumpers will be getting their talking points from the Fake News I'm sure, in about 3....2....
He usually does in a nonPC way. That is what the simple minds focus on is his nonPC statements, not what they pertain.
Just wait it's about PC Bro.
So this is it? You defend racist talk? Well okay! You can pat yourself on the head, neck, and shoulders all you want. We'll see how far stupid non-pc can take you. We'll just have to see if people are tired of civilly already, and are 'bout ready to return to scratching their big hairy balls in public and being dingle-berries.
Hillaryious. If you don't think people are already nasty gross slobs you need to get out of the basement.
Oh look! You just happened to have a picture handy! How 'bout that. Well, you're right about those butt exposure slobs out there. Yeah boy!
The other two pictures you threw in out of spite. They are harmless. But, good old "bubble shorts" there at least proves he is ready for incivility.
Pretty much agree. I would love to take those on the left who think this country is so bad and force them to live in six different countries over a period of three years and then bring them back. See what they have to say then. I've lived in five different countries besides this one. Two first world and three third world. Even the first world countries, although they were nice, don't have it as good as we do.
That doesn't mean we don't have our own problems. We do. But it's ridiculous to expect perfection, and overnight at that. The trend over the last few years has been to denigrate the founding fathers because of various reasons. I'm sure we're all familiar with those things. What amazes me is that these people who take issue with something like the Betsy Ross flag fail to recognize that, in spite of any perceived faults, they moved the country in a direction that has brought us to where we are today.
It takes time to change a society. Well, except those who think along Marxist lines. They think they can do it overnight, but all they ever end up doing is killing a lot of people and enslaving the rest. For the rest? It takes time.
Marx believed it required societal evolution to achieve the objectives he envisioned. Marx labeled the evolutionary system 'socialism'.
Others have used that label for very different systems and very different purposes.
This comment is not helping the discussion. Trump, is listening to his base on Twitter, and so he talks to his base through twitter and the national media picks it up. You should give that a thought. This man wanted to be president so he could sit on his stupid ass and converse not at the level of a world leader, who's words lean to weightier matters, but as some "yahoo" publicly mocked as resting on the side of his bed or sitting on a toilet>>>tweeting!
So my friend BF is using words like, "not actually" and "probably" to give this stupid man cover from his own embarrassment of trying to be 'just one of the fellows.' Trump is an old grown-ass man and leader of the leading nation on Earth. More importantly, everthing he publicly says, writes, and does is preserved in a unique historical record. And this "monstrosity" of a leader is so cavalier with his legacy that he tells people to 'F-off' as if time immemorial (how long has George Washington been dead by now and yet we study and regard his presidency?) won't consider his statements and actions to and against those ohter individuals serving in power same as he.
Some conservatives need to stop encouraging Donald Trump on Twitter! Because all this enabling is spoiling the foolish president and causing him to pull his drawers down lower in public! And at some point we will have to wonder about "the Base" and what is its role in Trump's stupid acts of aggression.
Okay, please state what other countries have accomplished since 2017. Here's a list of what Trump has accomplished:
1) Trump has gotten a fairer trade deal with Mexico and Canada than what was contained in NAFTA.
2) Trump has the single most active and accelerating economy in the world, and other countries are falling into recessions while the US economy has few signs of slowing.
3) Trump has started working with North Korea, similar to what Nixon did with China.
4) Trump has started securing the Southern border of the United States for The People of the United States of America.
5) Trump has really put pressure on the members of NATO to share the burden with the USA of supporting the organization.
Those are 5 things that I can think of off the top of my head. In the meantime, the EU has been kowtowing to Iran even after the USA withdrew from the JCPOA and which Iran has violated the terms of as was predicted by Conservatives when the JCPOA was signed. And, trump did all of these things with a Congress (even when controlled completely by Republicans) that actually has refused to work with him and with wasteful, empty investigations hounding him as they have not dredged up a shred of actual criminality on the part of Trump or his administration.
Ruh roh. You're not permitted to state those things to the progressives. It makes their hair go on fire and their heads explode.
Then they try to give the credit for all of that to Obama.
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Trump inherited the single most active and accelerating economy in the world.
There is ZERO similarity in what Trump did with NK and what Nixon did with China.
Trump has absconded with millions of DOJ appropriations which puts our military and their families at risk.
Do you have a link to show that the US reduced it's contributions to NATO tom?
You don't really want to hear my response. Because I really don't see how your talking points moves this discussion along. If your "Mr. Nice Guy" was actually not an 'insult king' (by the way, you like him because he is not knocking sparks from your. . . 'can') who thinks he can incite his way through to another victory in the electoral college, then he would work to deliver compromise. Remember compromise? That slow-steady progress "thing" you conservatives used to promote? Until you realized that groups of citizens are tired of oppression, repression, and people meddling in their personal affair (as determined by them). So you think your "kill-switch" of a president will cash out the country for ya? He just might. Don't mean you will get to keep it though.
Thank you. Sometimes words and time fail me.
This right here invalidates almost all of what you said, since the DOJ has NOTHING to do with the military and funding for the DOJ is completely separate from the DOD. Plus, Trump has not absconded with any monies. Now, those people like Elijah Cummings, whom became millionaires while in Congress, we can actually make a case that they absconded with various monies from Congress and Lobbyists and if the Daily Caller is to be believed, his wife funneled funds from her charity to her for-profit company.
Now as for the rest of your reply. The Mexico-Canada trade deal is being held up by Congress, particularly the House, so it hasn't taken effect yet. Obama had an average of about 1.5% growth even in his last 2 years. He only had a couple quarters in a row in any given year that actually came close to 2% growth. So, you are saying Nixon never visited China and that the quote "Only Nixon could go to China." is a lie? Who said anything about reducing contributions, I said SHARING the burden. Just because someone suddenly starts putting money into the collection at church when they haven't done so in the past doesn't mean that you will spend less on YOUR contribution to the collection. It just means that they have decided to accept some of the burden on themselves.
You are the one pretty much claiming that the only thing Trump does is tweet, while other leaders do things like negotiating deals and working towards peaceful resolutions of conflicts. I was pointing out things Trump has done that are very much in keeping with what a leader does.
You misunderstood me. The "others serving in power same as he" in my comment are not outside world leaders, they are our members in the House of Representatives. Trump's comments which sparked controversy are the tweets delivered by Twitter. This is something Trump does as well.
Should Trump tweet, in your opinion?
Trumpp is the reason OUR country is becoming a "shithole"
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Does Democrat Congresswomen, or Woman, refer to "just Omar ?
Cause his quote says "Congresswomen" ?
"that came from other countries"
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If it is as stated in seed, does Trumpp not know the difference between singular and plural.
What a joke this fuck up is.
.How the Hell people attempt to still defend this seventy something or other used diaper in OUR Whitehouse is just beyond me.
Maybe someone making excuses for the Stain on our country, could explain Y they constantly defend the most offensive POS POTUS that America has ever seen.
National Embarrassmeant 4 the foolish
who apparently got what they wanted.
To me, the Most Wanted Least Wanted.
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What a Dik
I don't get it. Seemingly intelligent people standing on their heads and spitting wooden nickels in order to apologize for this asshole, unbelievable.
yet, here they are, here
and,
out and about where im headed.
truly difficult to understand how people can't just admit, hey, i fuc'd up , i didn't realize what a complete asswhole this guy was!
But no, just keep digging,
and we'll be able to steal China's resources soon
The trumpanzee was actually spot on with the bigot antisemite
She should fix Somali and then share her genius plan and then fix the country she loves to hate.
Trump is too lazy and too incurious to actually find out whether or not these women came from other countries. He knows his deplorables will believe him either way so why spend the effort. He saves his efforts for eating cheeseburgers and cheating at golf.
awh fish, very ambiguous as you comment on Somali, but the other 3 were born in the USA.
What country should they go back and fix ?
Trump's old man should of went back to Germany, and fixed that 'shithole' up, no ?
I'm not impressed with Omar's politics but she's a US citizen.
What other three?
Who was he referencing?
Plz share your talking points.
this is somewhat like talking to a wall
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heres how dumb ass the far right writer for weasel zippers is
Trump doesnt mention ANY of the four by name, but we are supposed to assume he is only talking about Omar. Why? It is much more likely that he thinks they are ALL foreigners .
The weasel zippers writer says that since Trump doesnt mention any of them by name, we should just give him the benefit of the doubt as to what he meant. Where has this guy been for the past 4 years? Up Trumps rectum?
Sure are a lot of Trump rectum and penis references on Newstalker's
If you ever get a chance search it on the search function. It's fascinating. It's probably time for a university study on this phenomenon.
So you posit is that Paine should have gone back and fixed England and Hamilton to the West Indies and STFU. Got ya.
Or wants to imply that. Don't think he doesn't know what he's doing.
First, that might be Meta !!! (major side-eye)
Second, that from one who obsesses over Hillary Clinton's physical body, from fat to odors to tripping while walking. Seriously BF ? You've got no room to talk.
Er um, no one said that. LoL
She should fix Somali and then share her genius plan and then fix the country she loves to hate.
Life under Stalin was pretty horrific. But some people managed to escape and immigrate to the U.S. Do you think that what we should've done was turn them away-- sent them back to Stalin's USSR so they could "fix it"?
How about the Jews (as well as some other persecuted minorities) who managed to escape Nazi Germany and immigrate to the U.S. Should we have sent them back to Nazi Germany so they could "fix it"?
Uh, no...but you knew that. The founding fathers worked to better THIS country and help make it what it is today. People who came from shithole countries, then come here to shit on this country, after they have been welcomed with open arms, probably assisted financially and other benefits to help make a good beginning here, need to go back to help THEIR shithole countries if this one is so bad.
Win win for everybody
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'Trump's old man should of went back to Germany, and fixed that 'shithole' up, no ?'
The shitstain's father was kicked out of Germany for avoiding service. The turd doesn't fall far from the asshole does it?
And photoshops of Hillary on the terlet. Very highbrow.
Yes, I know that few accept that when you set standards for one they should apply to all. It makes rhetoric oh so much easier to spew.
Oh course not. Setting standards you only hold others to is the conservative MO.
Though they STRONGLY disagreed on the way forward, just as our leaders do today.
Here is what John Adams said to Thomas Jefferson about Thomas Paine's 'Common Sense:
So again, you should be including Paine and Hamilton.
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Learn to do research - his GRANDFATHER, Frederick, came to the states at 16, not his father.
My mistake, the shitstain's grandfather.
Amazing isn't it. People bending over backwards defending the indefensible.
Sickening really.
You mean his dad refused to become a nazi.
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Love the bigotry of that comment
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Republicans Aren’t Running on Taxes Anymore. They’re Running on Bigotry.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/10/republicans-blue-wave-resort-to-bigotry.html
Is "Bigot" the new word of the day ?
When my Little grandson has a new word he's learned, he uses it bunches too !
Paine and Hamilton wanted POSITIVE outcomes for the new country. The "squad" wants this country to be changed to a liberal utopia of high crime, no borders, rampant drug use and a country of bankruptcy, as demonstrated by the radical 2020 candidates offering free everything for everybody.
These are big differences.
About as believable as those who think President Trump has caused the problems in this country.
Pitiful. Just pitiful.
Really? You think so?
You didn't let them immigrate, you just sent them back. Remember the S.S.St.Louis.
Time to let shame of not having a clue go:
Here is the video:
If you can't figure out who he is talking about and not denying talking about, then shame!
'You mean his dad refused to become a nazi.'
I miss the old fish whose quirky sense of humor made me smile.
How about the Jews (as well as some other persecuted minorities) who managed to escape Nazi Germany and immigrate to the U.S. Should we have sent them back to Nazi Germany so they could "fix it"?"
You didn't let them immigrate, you just sent them back. Remember the S.S.St.Louis.
False!
I did not send them back!
In fact, I argued with our president at the time (who BTW was a blatant racist-- more openly racist than even Trump). I told him that they would be a plus for our country-- but he felt the Jews would drag our country down, IIRC...
Trump's old man should of went back to Germany, and fixed that 'shithole' up, no ?
No-- he shouldn't have wented back to Germany first. He should have wented back to England first-- so that his grammar would've been at least equal to that of the average 3rd grader.
(In terms of his IQ-- that probably couldn't be increased no matter where he wented to!)
Although when it comes to ignorantz ruling-- you definitely have a point...at least in regards to the political "discussions" on social media sites such as The "Newstalkers".
Not to worry-- China will pay for that!
When you ask a question using the word "we", the proper reply is "you".
Same here. I hope he will come back soon.
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I wondered who would be the first to justify this shitstain's remarks. Good job!
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I think his initial statement was to ‘... go back home...’ - as in out of this town. At any rate, it was before Cortez dolezaled herself and became an oppressed woman of color.
'I think his initial statement was to ‘... go back home...’ as in out of this town.'
You thought WRONG. Nope, the shitstain said they should leave the U.S.A.
The Anti-Defamation League however had a different view. In a statement, ADL CEO Jonathan Greenblatt said:
"While ADL has publicly disagreed with these congresswomen on some issues, the president is echoing the racist talking points of white nationalists and cynically using the Jewish people and the state of Israel as a shield to double down on his remarks. Politicizing the widespread, bipartisan support for Israel and throwing around accusations of anti-Semitism is damaging to the security of Israel and the Jewish community. He should lead by example, stop politicizing these issues and stop smearing members of Congress."
https://www.npr.org/2019/07/15/741771445/trump-continues-twitter-assault-on-4-minority-congresswomen
It seems that some don't share your taste in entertainment BF.
Exactly where does the President mention race? I don't recall it anywhere in the message. The only people who are making this about race are those who find it necessary to inject race into EVERYFUCKINGTHING.
You don't think that telling four women of color, all four of whom are Americans by the way, that they should go back where they came from is racist?
Pathetic.
Trump was the king birther, did you forget that? This is just another page out of the same racist book.
I think Greenblatt forgot just who WAS antisemitic. Foxman would not have. Here's how a fellow Somalian feels about Omar's antisemitism:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/a7639be6-863f-339f-9bbd-c054c4686c7b/can-ilhan-omar-overcome-her.html
Trump used a racist trope. It's like pornography, POC know it when they see it. White people do their best to ignore it or pretend it didn't happen.
BTW, the quote you posted is from a statement from the ADL. If you want to know why they made the statement, go to their website and READ.
Here is how Ayaan Hirsi Ali feels about Native Americans:
Pretty fucking tone deaf IMHO.
Oh and BTW, Ayaan Hirsi Ali had a scandal about lying about her asylum status. Trump should check on her veracity.
Native Americans are "non-Western"???? I'll be sure to let my tribal buddies know.
I think she's right most of the time, but she was WAY WRONG on THAT one.
Seem's that she flunked her geography class and knows nothing about Native Americans and or civilizations.
But hey, she is an expert. /s
She may be wrong on what she said about assimilation, and as I said above, she is WAY WRONG about Native Americans (Who's on first?), but that does not discredit most of what she has criticized.
She doesn't seem to know much about that subject (NA, geography and civilizations), so it would behove her to STFU about it.
I think that what she said about understanding Omar's being grounded in antisemitism from her youth in Somalia since she went through the same thing is the main point of her article.
Asked Monday if he was concerned that "people saw the tweet as racist and that white nationalist groups are finding common cause with you on that point," Trump replied, "It doesn't concern me because many people agree with me."
Yup, we see that right here on this seed. And on Fux 'news'
What's telling is that THAT was her 'clarification'.
Well as this and many other seeds make clear, women of color need to be held responsible and criticized ad nauseam for every word they say that isn't 'politically correct'.
Ayaan Hirsi Ali CHOSE a much more anti-Semite form of Islam, supported the Muslim Brotherhood and fatwa against Salman Rushdie and didn't turn away from it until she was in her late 20s. Those are choices she made as an ADULT.
It seems self serving for her to pretend that she can relate to Omar when she admits that their experiences where so different.
You don't think that telling four women of color
What is this bullsh*t about "women of colour"?
At least one is White:
What is this bullsh*t about "women of colour"?
At least one is White...
And what "colour" do you think AOC is?
The linked article is about antisemitism. Is it your opinion that antisemitism is politically correct, so that such an article fits your description?
My comment and your reply were about another comment that she made.
You're conflating Buzz. My comment was about the quote I posted and you replied to. STOP.
I gotta love Pelosi and her sense of convenience. Yesterday they were bitches - today she calls the squad ‘sisters’.
What a ♪ difference a ♫ day makes; ♫ twenty-four 'little' hours ♪ . . . .
And she fell right into the trap Trump set. That was a fucking briliiant move by Trump.
Or, has Trump fallen through her trapdoor? Inquiring minds wish to know.
If there ever were actually any inquiring minds they wouldn’t be asking that question.
Que? Eh? What?
Well, Donald Trump took some of the heat off Nancy Pelosi. Sort of the same thing he did for Joe Biden after Harris' stunt.
Of course, the dimmer wits will try to convince us that Trump is too stupid to know what he's doing. I'd say there's more to the story.
Trumpp is Too smart, to know what he is doing...
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Is that what U r telling US ?
It doesn't take a whole lot of smarts to understand that when opponents are eating their own, let them.
Trump knows that his tweets attract dimmer wits like moths to a flame. Trump deliberately inserted himself into a Democratic cat-fight (twice) and I don't buy that Trump didn't know he would divert attention onto himself.
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Who are rank and file Democrats rallying around? Trump just focused the public spotlight on AOC's gang. What's Nancy Pelosi going to do, throw shade?
He convinces me every time he opens his mouth.
The "Dimmer Wits" definitely DON'T know what he's doing.
The "Bright Bulbs" do know !
Just read the "Outraged" comments here, as Trump signs an order to Strengthen "Buy American" at the same time the media was outraged at Trumps Tweet !
That's gotta suck for the "Left" !
Does the "Left" actually know he did that ?
Trump can get the "Left" looking everywhere and Anywhere, except where they should be. And the "Left" keeps saying Trump is the Dumb one ?
oooooo …… Look …… Squirrel ….. and THEY look !
Even though his daughter's company had her items made overseas ... as are most of the amenities at his hotels, many items in his Trump Home brand ... and yet he's fooled you into thinking he gives a crap.
Is that why he signed an order to "Strengthen American Buying" in this country ?
He doesn't think that type of thing should apply to him, if it will reduce his bottom line. Not quite sure why you find that so admirable.
If All the Other Companies in this country were allowed to do it over decades.....does that mean his companies shouldn't have ?
He's changing things right now, and he'll have to follow the "Change" too. Do you know of a loophole he's provided in his order that says...."Anything Trump has, doesn't have to follow" ?
You have to be shitting me. He won't follow it. Just as he doesn't follow existing laws and guidelines.
His koolaid is clearly working - go on, drink another glass.
It's like you know ?
"Just as he doesn't follow existing laws and guidelines."
If he's been SUCH a "Bad Boy" on that, ya woulda thought the "Feds" woulda caught up to him by now.
How long has Trump and his family been doing business ?
Trump means except for the Trump 2020 banners and flags made in China.
Trump signs an order to Strengthen "Buy American"
I guess Ivanka will be stuck with her made in China products.
As do the sharpest knives in the drawer!
No doubt. It's the only way he fooled his base of poor hard working folk while he's a golden spoon born man baby who hasn't done a single day of hard work in his life.
"We won with poorly educated. I love the poorly educated" - Donald J Trump
You might want to look at the rest of that quote he also says he won the highly educated.
“We won with young. We won with old. We won with highly educated. We won with poorly educated. I love the poorly educated. We’re the smartest people, we’re the most loyal people, and you know what I’m happy about? Because I’ve been saying it for a long time. 46% were the Hispanics—46%, No. 1 one with Hispanics. I’m really happy about that.”
So you're still believing everything that Trump says.
Trump only got 35% of the young, 37% of the highly educated and 29% of the Hispanic vote.
Which was a total lie which is why I didn't include it. I quoted one of two true statements he made there, the other being he "won with the old". So he's cornered the old and dumb voting blocks, hurrah for Donald.
Trumpp's para graphically preposterous post .
Yea, the poorly educated are usually the smartest people...
Think on that defenders of the Dik
His quote was regarding his victory in the Nevada state primary election not the general election. Do you have data showing it to be false?
https://qz.com/623640/i-love-the-poorly-educated-read-donald-trumps-full-nevada-victory-speech/
Not on me but I'll bet neither did Trump.
President Donald Trump is a walking, talking, refrain: "I need a shower after visiting, Donald Trump." If it was not for his mop-up crews, plural, he would have nothing resembling interesting in himself at all. He would just be an old fool sitting in the White House with wife, children, and a skeleton crew of staff for which he would be closely eye-balling to find one or two more to yell: "You're fired!"
Hi Dean! Overall, do you know what percentage of Republican caucus-goers in 2016 were Hispanic?
This is a quote from President* Trump
Trump twice claims the women (plural) came from other countries. He said THEY should go back where THEY came from.
AOC was born in The Bronx NYC, Pressley was born in Cinncinatti, and Tlaib was born in Detroit. They are all as American as Trump is. Omar came permanently to the United States when she was 10 years old.
BF, why are you supporting a moron like President* Trump?
I am supporting the comment he made to that bigoted hypocrite.
And it's entertaining but the again I don't obsess about the 2016 every day.
He doesnt know what the word "they" means.
He is either incompetent or a liar. Neither makes him presidential material. Deplorables have no standards.
hey, it does have 4 letters
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The only 'comment' Trump made to anyone was to reply to himself.
Why don’t they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came.
Trump twice claims the women (plural) came from other countries. He said THEY should go back where THEY came from.
AOC was born in The Bronx NYC, Pressley was born in Cinncinatti, and Tlaib was born in Detroit.
Aw c'mon-- forcing them to go back to places like Da Bronx-- Cinncinati (actually anywhere in Ohio now that I think of it)-- and Detroit? That's cruel and unusual punishment! (Even these three idiots deserve better than that!!!!)
He's right. We have people in this country, not just Congresspeople, who came here to escape atrocities of their own shithole countries, then begin to shit on the country that took them on and bettered their life.
If they don't like what this country has done for them, then maybe a return trip to where they originated from to fix that country and make it the utopia liberals think countries should be, then return here and show it how it's done.
Somehow, I don't think any of these idiots will take him up on the offer.
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No way anyone is going anywhere, it’s not going to end without a bloody fight.
WTF R U talking about...?
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F, U, R sayin, if Trumpp is impeached, and found guilty (Cause He IS ) of too many offensives to name, U would defend the guy Russia Putin Place ?
Well, there is not going to be much of a fight, as the right to bare arms, doesn't mean much VS our military, and yea some are Trumpsters, but, since Trump is guilty of treasonous acts , in my opine, i wouldn't have any problem with those who would be so blind as to follow this bumbling buffoon right over the damn cliff, and i would allow them to read the notes the Cliff took, as Cliff notes will explain the SUDDEN FCKN ENDING
Of what...and what court (not the warped liberal mind) found him guilty of a crime he has never been charged with?
Well I'm sure you don't know which end of your sling shot you know to hold
DOJ is not allowed to even try him, however you seem to forget that he has already been named as an unindicted co-conspirator.
That's not Robert Mueller believes.
When did that happen?
Where are you coming up with this crap???
Mueller stated that was the reason he could not offer an opinion on whether Trump broke the law. It is right in his report for anyone to read.
You know the reason Trump's lawyer, Cohen, was thrown in jail? Trump was his co-conspirator on some of those charges.
Thanks for letting some sunshine in ,
cause they live in a
shady reality.
How one cannot know these basic facts, is pretty much proof, they only watch Fox n or 'right wing' propaganda provided media
Key word....learn what it means...
And he was promply called out by WITNESSES in the briefing where he said DOJ policies DID NOT play a part in him not indicting Trump.
Maybe MSDNC did not tell you that.
It means that he is POTUS and the ONLY reason he wasn't indicted is DOJ policy. FYI, unindicted DOES NOT mean "not guilty".
Read 4.1.10. You may learn something new today.
Nixon did. Trump will.
Read his report and maybe, just maybe, you will learn something.
By WITNESSES I presume you mean Barr. I'll bet that we will soon find out that Barr lied about more than just the 'summary'.
Maybe you shouldn't believe everything that Fox or Barr tells you...
Why do you keep posting lies?
Do you think Mueller was lying in his press release? It's amazing how lies proliferate on the left. Once they get a head of steam on loon left wing sites, their readers parrot them forever, no matter how many times they are corrected.
Alinsky Rules.
What 'lie' Sean?
What are you alleging that Mueller said in his 'press release' that he didn't say in his public statement or in his report?
What 'lie' Sean?
that the only reason trump wasn't indicted wasn't indicted was DOJ policy.
Is this thread that hard to follow? I would think excerpting this quote "he is POTUS and the ONLY reason he wasn't indicted is DOJ policy." above my response would make that pretty obvious.
Cut some slack. You know how some people were really, really banking on the Great Mueller Investigation to nail the President and lead to his impeachment.
Disappointment is a bitter pill to swallow.
That's not a lie Sean. There was a reason that Mueller released the contradictory statements between Barr and his words/report.
It seems so for you since I note that you didn't answer my question about the press release. Please proceed.
Maybe the poster is ignorant. That's a possibility. But it is a falsehood. But please, for once in your life, prove me wrong with evidence.
you since I note that you didn't answer my question about the press release.
Because I trust you have the basic literacy skills to read it. An optimistic position, I know. But if you think I've misrepresented what he wrote, prove me wrong. But again, that's not what you do.
SO you are claiming that he did not state that DOJ policy did not allow him to recommend any charges against Trump? Now who is posting lies???
Do you think Mueller was lying in his report?
You are comparing your interpretation of what he said, or more likely FoxNews's interpretation of what he said, with his actual written statement. Or would you care to provide a quote with what you feel he said?
Since you keep making the assertion, it's on you to prove.
Reading it doesn't answer my question Sean.
YOU are the one that brought up the press release. YOU are the one that made an assertion about it's content. YOU are the one that with the burden of proof.
I'm starting to think that you don't have a clue what the press release actually says.
Please proceed to prove me wrong by supporting your assertion.
Of course, you can just continue to deflect with snarky bullshit.
Is it just me, or is it more than curious that he keeps citing a press release that he refuses to link or even quote?
It isn't curious to me, it's an MO I've become used to. This isn't the first time I've challenged the bullshit being spewed about the press release.
I read an article about the press release and since I am not one to accept a 'representation' of a document, I actually searched far and wide for it. I may be the only one here that's actually READ the fucking thing. I was not surprised that the article misrepresented the content of the press release in order to fulfill an agenda.
So whenever I see someone misrepresenting it's content, I challenge their unfounded posit. I have yet to have one member cite the content of the actual press release. They seem to think that what they've read about it is sufficient to make a cogent argument and they get pissed off when I don't accept their proclamations.
I read an article about the press release
Congrats! You found one of the most talked about documents of the year! Do you want a cookie? Or do you need a link to the word cookie to understand what a cookie is?
representing it's content, I challenge their unfounded posit
Yes, in the way a four year old challenges a fact they don't like. Why don't you put on your big boy pants and actually rebut what I wrote instead of blabbering how you "challenge bullshit" without ever, you know, challenging anything.
You claim to have read the release. Now please explain how it proves that the only reason Trump wasn't indicted was because of DOJ policy.
Apparently you haven't seen the in depth analysis of the civil war scenario. Here's a Hint.
YOU LOSE!
Supercilious bullshit. Well done.
Oh but I did challenge YOU Sean and you've proven incapable of meeting that challenge.
Here are your comments in red:
So you insist that Mueller's press release
As your comments show, YOU are the one making the assertion and YOU have the burden of proof.
So PROVE that the a statement by Mueller in his press release makes it clear that the OLC policy didn't keep Mueller from indicting Trump.
You don't have to tap dance anymore Sean. All you have to do is QUOTE the statement or post a copy of the press release and point out the part that supports your posit.
If you don't, it will be clear to all that your hours of ongoing blather was merely to cover up the fact that you were just making shit up.
Not going to happen. You do know what your in for right?
are the one making the assertion and YOU have the burden of proof.
Actually, Ozzwald made the assertion that at "he is POTUS and the ONLY reason he wasn't indicted is DOJ policy."
I was responding to that assertion and the vague reference to "read the Report" as the basis for that assertion. Now, since I'm not a troll and I'm smart enough to understand what he meant without asking silly questions and demanding links to the report, I rebutted his statement and referenced the press release as one piece of evidence that shows the falsity of his claim. No need for histrionics about "burdens of proof."
How many posts is that now where you've refused to provide a substantive rebuttal? But like Nixon and his secret plan to end the war, you have that secret rebuttal that you will never actually reveal. At the end of the day, you know, and I know, that I'm correct. All your attempted distractions and deflections and whining won't change that.
I have the data: (and more to the point, it comes from a conservative named, Shapiro):
Reading through the comments I am still not clear on the #1 issue that is causing the snag here. But, with Dulay's and Ozzwald's permission or assistance I want to get to the bottom of this!
So what's up?
People like Sebastian Gorka.
Sebastian Gorka is a patriotic American who loves this country. AOC, Omar and Tailib? Not so much.
Gorka is a neo-Nazi
Nice liberal "feeling" Got any real proof? No?? That's what I thought.
Enough it seems for their constituents. BTW, I see that you excluded Pressley. Care to explain why?
Proudly wearing the Order of Vitéz is one big tell.
So that was one of the medals on his SS uniform?
I don't know anything about an SS uniform but Gorka wore the Order of Vitéz at Trump's inauguration and the Times of Israel was NOT pleased...
That was meant to be sarcastic.
He's just another thug that was only in the turd's administration for 8 months.
You’re absolutely correct of course the following in the footsteps of the notorious Anti American Obamas.
Trump never "offers". He demands in his tantrum throwing, foot stomping, bullying fashion. What part of 3 were born here doesn't he get. If he is sooooo unhappy with them, he should return to where he came from.....N. Germany.
A racist comment made by Trump? Color me so not surprised.
Like your avatar ?
My avatar? It is a dragon. So wtf does your comment have to do with it?
It's colorful
Yes it is, but I don't get the comment regarding mine. I like yours also.
"Rep. Rashida Tlaib has defended her controversial comments about having a “calming feeling” when she thinks about Palestinians offering a “safe haven for Jews” after the Holocaust.
The Michigan Democrat, one of two Muslim women in Congress, drew fire last week from Republicans after speaking on the Yahoo podcast “Skullduggery,”where she was asked about her support for a one-state solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict
“There’s kind of a calming feeling I always tell folks when I think of the Holocaust, and the tragedy of the Holocaust, and the fact that it was my ancestors, Palestinians, who lost their land and some lost their lives, their livelihood, their human dignity, their existence in many ways, have been wiped out, and some people’s passports,” Tlaib said.
https://nypost.com/2019/05/14/rep-tlaib-defends-comments-about-palestine-holocaust/
Those statements indicate two things: 1) The speaker is ignorant of history (Palestinians NEVER OFFERED A SAFE HAVEN FOR JEWS) and 2) the speaker has very deep feelings for "her ancestors" who were Palestinians. She has demonstrated via other comments of her lack of empathy for the US and as shown here, her lack of empathy for Jews specifically. There is no question about where her true loyalties lie...She is a Palestinian first regardless of where she was born.
Your comment is off topic.
No, it's not!
Which she NEVER said, so whose statement is ignorant Vic?
Her maternal Grandmother lives in the West Bank so why use scare quotes?
What 'other comments' are you referring to? Please be specific.
BTFW, empathy for one group need not lead to a zero-sum game for another.
hich she NEVER said, so whose statement is ignorant Vic?
“I mean, just all of it was in the name of trying to create a safe haven for Jews, post-the Holocaust, post-the tragedy and the horrific persecution of Jews across the world at that time, and I love the fact that it was my ancestors that provided that"
Read much?
But she did and I even gave you a link to the well known & well publicized statement. I'll let objective observers judge who is ignorant Dully!
Her maternal Grandmother lives in the West Bank so why use scare quotes?
Scare quotes? They are her's.
What 'other comments' are you referring to?
I'm not wasting my time.
BTFW, empathy for one group need not lead to a zero-sum game for another.
With liberals it is and they have proved it!
Your comments are off topic. Where is the seeder to flag them?
On topic John. One of the pieces of shit who trashes America, in your political party!
Look out! Americans are hitting back!
The worthless Gang of Four, who seemingly want to turn the USA into a third world shithole.
Obviously more than you since I recognize the difference between:
And:
See there Sean, she never said that the Palestinians OFFERED anything.
If you're going to insist on holding someone responsible for saying something, the LEAST you can do it quote them accurately and arguing the ACTUAL statement on it's merits. Arguing against a FALSE quote only diminishes your credibility.
No she didn't and the quote PROVES it. Why continue to make shit up?
Really? She said 'her ancestors' Vic? Whose ancestors was she talking about then?
BTFW, look up the definition of scare quotes.
Translation: I made it up.
Really? How so Vic? Or is that just more made up crap?
Oh..you can't understand context. I'm sorry for you.
In your world, who is she saying provided the safe haven? The Japanese?
You are the one desperately ignoring context Sean.
Now you're just deflecting from Vic's false posit. Stop trying to change it to fit your agenda.
You mean YOUR version of America.
One of his friends mentioned Sebastian Gorka in this seed, who is nowhere in the story, but I didn't see him cry about moderators not flagging for off topic.
Wonder why.
Trump is doing that already.
It doesn't matter bugsy, Vic gave up supporting his BS.
Who did she say created the safe haven for Jews?
lets try for a third time...
What did Vic say she said and why are you deflecting from THAT?
Strike three!
thanks for playing.
I leave you to play your games all alone Sean.
When you decide to have a discussion sans deflection, we can talk.
Deny deny deny until you smack them in the face with it.
He is a racist pos pig, sad that people defend this disgrace of a president.
Congratulations to President Trump for calling out these anti American shitstains. He is right.
He is wrong and a disgrace to the office of the presidency.
Nope. He is standing up for ALL Americans, no matter their race.
You just don't like that he is calling out the racist and bigoted arm of the democratic party. Unfortunately, that is a very large segment.
Are you white?
Any proof of that? Again, no? Too predictable.
Does it matter?
It doesn't matter the color of anyone in this country if they display outright racism. My wife is from the Philippines, has been here since 1981, and was told by a black woman not too long ago to go back to where she came from. I wonder how Omar will defend that...as I'm sure she would,
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Ahhhhh, the liberal go to of name calling when they have nothing else. You do that often...
That's all they got and Emoji's.
Stupid ones at that.
Then you should have some empathy, yet you show none.
My Grandfather who was from Pangasinan, was told the same thing throughout his life.
Trump is the one telling POC to leave, not Omar. I'm sure Trump would cheer and tweet about it. You must be proud.
Then you should be appalled by Trumps comments, not defending them. I mean what the hell...you called the women Trump was attacking 'shit-stains'.
So Trump is a liberal?
an old school liberal... yes.
todays socialist/progressive/communist/anarchist liberal? not a chance.
Sure you didn't leave one of those talking point buzz words off the list? So freaking predictable.
What the fuck is a socialist progressive communist anarchist?
That's just whack.
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Apparently it does matter a great deal to Trump.
So folks have failed with just about every other argument and now all that is left is to reflexively wave the race card in some sort of manic debilitating frenzy.
That's also universally recognized as the face of LOSING!
"Why don’t they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came. Then come back and show us how... badly, you can’t leave fast enough."
Who knew that New York, Michigan, Minnesota and Massachusetts were actually "Countries".
Yep, but that's trump for ya, dumber than a sack full of hammers.
But....But ….. But....Trump never claimed any "Person, Place or THING" in his tweet.
Whom/What were you "Thinking?" he was "Actually" speaking Of/About ?
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Unbelievable.
Trump, you said it yourself...
Who knew that New York, Michigan, Minnesota and Massachusetts were actually "Countries".
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