‘Coal’s not back’: Miners union president slams Trump’s lies about saving the coal industry

  
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‘Coal’s not back’: Miners union president slams Trump’s lies about saving the coal industry
“Coal’s not back. Nobody saved the coal industry.

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‘Coal’s not back’: Miners union president slams Trump’s lies about saving the coal industry







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Donald Trump campaigned on a pledge to save the dirtiest of fossil fuels. And just over a year ago declared at a West Virginia rally, “ We are back. The coal industry is back.


But the reality is quite different, with  more coal-fired power plant shutdowns under Trump  in his first two years in office than in Obama’s entire first term!

So it’s no surprise that those who actually work in the industry disagree with Trump’s rosy outlook.

Cecil Roberts, United Mine Workers of America President, shut down all of Trump’s false bravado this week, explaining that the “harsh reality” is quite different from the president’s wild exaggerations:


Coal’s not back. Nobody saved the coal industry .

Roberts says that all of Trump’s huffing and puffing amounts to nothing more than simply keeping the coal industry “in existence.” However, he points out that the industry as a whole is  still shrinking  and more and more jobs continue to be lost.

Indeed, Trump’s own  Energy Information Administration (EIA) projects  coal production will hit a four-decade low in 2019 and drop again in 2020

Roberts and other miners  have begged Trump to give them some time and consideration, to discuss the issues that they are facing in the dying industry. Brandon Pearson, one of the  protesting Blackjewel miners , says they need Trump on their side:


“We’re struggling, and I hope and I pray that Donald Trump can see my message and hear my voice. I’m just one of many voices crying out, saying we need help we need something and we need him here…. A tweet would be great.”

Some may think that Trump cares more about rolling back Obama’s legacy than he does about the actual coal miners that are facing  premature deaths  and  bankrupt pensions .


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JohnRussell
1  seeder  JohnRussell    3 months ago

Trump will campaign for re-election on a blizzard of lies. 

 
 
 
devangelical
1.1  devangelical  replied to  JohnRussell @1    3 months ago

meh, most of those with an IQ under 65 will still vote for him and the rest can deal opioids.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
1.1.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  devangelical @1.1    3 months ago
Some may think that Trump cares more about rolling back Obama’s legacy than he does about the actual coal miners that are facing   premature deaths   and   bankrupt pensions  .
 
 
 
Heartland American
1.1.2  Heartland American  replied to  devangelical @1.1    3 months ago

Meh, most of those with an IQ under 65 will oppose him and the rest can abuse themselves with opioids.  

 
 
 
MrFrost
1.1.3  MrFrost  replied to  Heartland American @1.1.2    3 months ago

Meh, most of those with an IQ under 65 will oppose him and the rest can abuse themselves with opioids.  

Way to not call out trump for the liar he is. 

 
 
 
WallyW
1.2  WallyW  replied to  JohnRussell @1    3 months ago

Not a lie since he has nothing to do with shutting down coal mines...

or utilities converting to NG, which is better for the environment.

 
 
 
Heartland American
1.2.1  Heartland American  replied to  WallyW @1.2    3 months ago

Not only that but Trump has facilitated a massive expansion in our exporting of our cleaner coal to places still needing coal and to relieve eastern Europe’s need for Russian energy.  It’s not as if any democrat president will help this union guy out.  

 
 
 
MrFrost
1.2.2  MrFrost  replied to  WallyW @1.2    3 months ago
Not a lie since he has nothing to do with shutting down coal mines...

So then he lied about saving the coal industry, got it. 

 
 
 
Ronin2
2  Ronin2    3 months ago

What? Did he think the coal industry would turn on a fucking dime once Obama left office? It takes time to undo EO's and EPA imposed regulations.  During that time coal plants were being taxed and regulated at Obama administration standards, so they were still shutting down. How stupid is he?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/trump-rolling-back-obama-rules/?utm_term=.4b128c937271

https://www.heritage.org/coal-oil-natural-gas/heritage-explains/why-president-trump-overhauled-obamas-coal-emissions

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/06/19/trump-coal-climate-rule-1539616

https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/19/politics/epa-rolls-back-obama-coal-emissions/index.html

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/19/climate/epa-coal-emissions.html

Oh, and then to move the goal post and talk about things Trump never promised such as premature deaths and bankrupt pensions? How about someone ask this moron (sorry giving a bad name to morons) what the Democrats are offering? Besides Jack shit of nothing.  Sorry, no Obama UAW pension bailout by the US tax payers. No US government give away of the coal industry to the Coal Union.

Coal is a dying industry, and Trump has extended it's life expectancy; which is far more than the Democrats are offering. 

 
 
 
Kavika
3  Kavika     3 months ago

The coal industry is dying and has been for some time. 

Trump's promise to bring back coal was never going to work. Natural gas and renewables which are cheaper, cleaner has replaced coal and will continue to do so. 

Two more coal mines just closed in Wyoming closed with 700 miners losing their jobs. The company, Blackjewel, declared bankruptcy. 

https://www.oilandgas360.com/wyoming-coal-mines-close/

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
3.1  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Kavika @3    3 months ago

Maybe if the coal miners read something other than racing forms and sport's recaps, they would have known that their industry was like buggy whips and button hooks, both who once served a purpose, but phased out.  Self education would have shown them that Trump was making empty promises which he could never deliver on.  They counted on him throwing them a rope, which he did.....both ends.

 
 
 
WallyW
3.1.1  WallyW  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @3.1    3 months ago

What "promise" did Trump make?

 
 
 
MrFrost
3.1.2  MrFrost  replied to  WallyW @3.1.1    3 months ago
Donald Trump campaigned on a pledge to save the dirtiest of fossil fuels. And just over a year ago declared at a West Virginia rally, “ We are back. The coal industry is back.

First fucking line of the article, wally. 

 
 
 
Heartland American
4  Heartland American    3 months ago

The Trump administration has opened a new front in battles over US climate policy by overhauling rules for power plant emissions to try to help the coal industry.

The Environmental Protection Agency’s Affordable Clean Energy (ACE) rule is intended to comply with legal requirements to control carbon dioxide emissions from electricity generation while minimising intervention in the industry. The agency published the final version on Wednesday.

States including New York and environmental groups are promising to challenge the new rules in court. The resulting legal battles are likely to drag on into 2021, by which time it is possible there will be a Democratic president who could change policy.

Mr Trump said he would put American coal miners “back to work”, but the upturn in the industry’s employment has been modest. There were 52,800 people employed in US coal mining last month, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, up 1,800 since Mr Trump’s inauguration in January 2017 but still well down from the 86,200 working in the sector when Barack Obama took office in 2009.

In a sign of the continued pressure to cut costs in the US coal industry, two of the largest mining groups, Peabody Energy and Arch Coal, announced on Wednesday that they were combining their assets in Wyoming and Colorado into a joint venture, with the aim of saving $120m a year.

Although a future Democratic president would be expected to reinstate an attempt to cut emissions along the lines of the CPP, court decisions on the ACE rule could mean the administration’s policy influences US policy even after Mr Trump leaves office....https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.ft.com/content/0da01384-92b0-11e9-aea1-2b1d33ac3271

 
 
 
lady in black
4.1  lady in black  replied to  Heartland American @4    3 months ago

Coal is NOT coming back and that's the facts jack.

 
 
 
Ronin2
4.1.1  Ronin2  replied to  lady in black @4.1    3 months ago

No one ever said it was. But Trump has extended it's life far past what Obama's EO's and EPA self action regulations would have allowed.  Save is a relative term. Trump saved the coal industry from a Democratic enacted early demise.

No one has answered what the Democrats are doing for the coal industry and miners- outside of jack shit of nothing.

Let's see if the Democratic candidates accept the Miners Union invite to court their vote in an open debate.

https://www.realclearenergy.org/2019/07/12/miners039_union_invites_dems_to_court_coal_workers_288848.html

The United Mine Workers of America, the union representing mineworkers for nearly 130 years, has for the first time invited every Democratic presidential hopeful to tour a coal mine and to discuss their thoughts on finding a place for coal workers in their vision for the nation's energy future. In letters sent Monday to 23 Democratic presidential candidates and obtained by NBC News, the union's president, Cecil E. Roberts, said many miners who have felt estranged from the Democratic Party for years are now interested in starting a dialogue.

I am sure the Democratic insane exploding clown car of candidates would love to give coal miners their vision of a future of no coal; with miners fully unemployed, no pensions, and future health issues waiting. 

Of course the Democrats don't give a shit about the coal miners as they are mostly white and male.

https://www.bls.gov/cps/cpsaat18.htm

 
 
 
MUVA
4.1.2  MUVA  replied to  lady in black @4.1    3 months ago

Coal fired plants in other parts of the world are still being used we could sell coal to them.

 
 
 
Kavika
4.1.3  Kavika   replied to  Ronin2 @4.1.1    3 months ago

Trump made promises to bring back coal...It didn't happen and won't happen in the future no matter what party is in charge..There is no point in trying to ''save'' a terminal patient. 

In addtion to the fact, NG is far less expensive and much cleaner. The coal companies are automating every possible job. 

MUVA mentioned about exporting more. We are the 4th largest exporter of coal in the world. That isn't going to save us since more and more countries are exporting more coal. (Mongolia)  http://www.worldstopexports.com/coal-exports-country/

Many industries have disappeared or are only a shadow of their former self. This is the future coal. 

It isn't political except for the fact that Trump made promises to the coal miners that are not realistic. 

It's that simple. 

 
 
 
MrFrost
4.1.4  MrFrost  replied to  lady in black @4.1    3 months ago

Coal is NOT coming back and that's the facts jack.

True...

512

 
 
 
Tacos!
5  Tacos!    3 months ago

Sounds like liberals have a reason to vote for Trump. jrSmiley_79_smiley_image.gif

 
 
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