The CIA Reportedly Pulled Its Top Spy from Russia Because Trump Can't Keep His Mouth Shut

  
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The CIA Reportedly Pulled Its Top Spy from Russia Because Trump Can't Keep His Mouth Shut
The CIA's move reportedly came after a May 2017 meeting in the Oval Office, when Trump shared highly classified information about ISIS, supplied by Israel, with Russian foreign minister Sergey Lavrov and then-Russian ambassador to the U.S. Sergey Kislyak.

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The CIA Reportedly Pulled Its Top Spy from Russia Because Trump Can't Keep His Mouth Shut



Not even a year into   Donald Trump's presidency , the CIA took the extraordinary step of removing one of its most valuable assets inside the Russian government. According to   CNN , multiple Trump administration officials with direct knowledge of the situation claimed that the agency made the decision out of concern that Trump or members of his administration would wind up exposing the spy, inadvertently or otherwise. The CIA's move reportedly came after a May 2017 meeting in the Oval Office, when Trump shared highly classified information about ISIS, supplied by Israel, with Russian foreign minister Sergey Lavrov and then-Russian ambassador to the U.S. Sergey Kislyak.




Per CNN:



The disclosure to the Russians by the President, though not about the Russian spy specifically, prompted intelligence officials to renew earlier discussions about the potential risk of exposure, according to the source directly involved in the matter. At the time, then-CIA Director Mike Pompeo told other senior Trump administration officials that too much information was coming out regarding the covert source, known as an asset. An extraction, or "exfiltration" as such an operation is referred to by intelligence officials, is an extraordinary remedy when US intelligence believes an asset is in immediate danger.



When asked for comment, CIA director of public affairs Brittany Bramell told the network, "CNN's narrative that the Central Intelligence Agency makes life-or-death decisions based on anything other than objective analysis and sound collection is simply false. Misguided speculation that the President's handling of our nation's most sensitive intelligence—which he has access to each and every day—drove an alleged exfiltration operation is inaccurate." A White House representative said, "CNN's reporting is not only incorrect, it has the potential to put lives in danger," while a spokesperson for Mike Pompeo, who was in charge of the CIA at the time, declined to comment.

But Trump's "handling of our nation's most sensitive intelligence" has been a problem in the past. While the Department of Defense rarely discloses the locations of submarines, in a 2017 phone call with Rodrigo Duterte, Trump told the president of the Philippines that the U.S. had   two nuclear subs   stationed near North Korea. Trump has also   gone to great lengths   to keep his private discussions with Russian president Vladimir Putin completely secret, hiding details of the talks from his own administration's officials and even going so far as to confiscate his interpreter's notes. And on August 30 of this year, he tweeted what appeared to be a high-definition image of an Iranian launch site, saying, "The United States of America was not involved in the catastrophic accident during final launch preparations for the Safir [Space Launch Vehicle] Launch at Semnan Launch Site One in Iran. I wish Iran best wishes and good luck in determining what happened at Site One." Security experts warned that the image was almost certainly from a classified drone or satellite, according to   NPR , and one expert explained the tweet showed "some pretty amazing capabilities that the public simply wasn't privy to before this."


Trump's administration as a whole has struggled with classified information: After the 2017 bombing at Manchester Arena in the United Kingdom, the British government shared sensitive information about the attack with key allies, the U.S. among them. Someone in the Trump administration very quickly leaked that information to the media, a move that so angered then-prime minister Theresa May she reportedly   confronted Trump   about it at a NATO summit. And Trump's former national security adviser   Michael Flynn   and former campaign manager   Paul Manafort   were both indicted for working as agents for foreign governments.


Despite all this, Trump is still campaigning against Hillary Clinton's use of a private server and handling classified emails, even though she isn't running in 2020. At an August   rally in New Hampshire , he brought up her emails yet again, and the crowd began chanting, "lock her up."

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JohnRussell
1  seeder  JohnRussell    one week ago

It's one damn thing after another. 

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
1.1  igknorantzrulz  replied to  JohnRussell @1    one week ago

It's one damn thing after another. 

no,

it's twenty damn things after every other ten

.

and Muva, it is TrUE.

Was just watching then reading about it.

Try a few different sources, it would do wonders for you

 
 
 
nightwalker
1.2  nightwalker  replied to  JohnRussell @1    one week ago

Not surprised in the least, I figured out some time ago that ANYTHING trump knows, Putin knows.

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
1.2.1  igknorantzrulz  replied to  nightwalker @1.2    one week ago

especially about Trumpps kinky fetishes 

 
 
 
nightwalker
1.2.2  nightwalker  replied to  nightwalker @1.2    one week ago

Also, Putin didn't want to tip his hand that he knew but now that it's out, the ex-spy better be careful of getting  "gift" perfume bottles that contain nerve gas.

 
 
 
squiggy
1.3  squiggy  replied to  JohnRussell @1    one week ago

That would be your media darlings...

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/possible-ex-russian-spy-cia-living-washington-area-n1051741

...like nobody could figure.

 
 
 
 
Ozzwald
1.4.1  Ozzwald  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.4    one week ago
Debunked, yet featured here on NT!

Not debunked yet. 

Did the CIA issue that statement after a visit from Wilbur Ross?  Debunking under Trump is much more difficult than previous administrations, the amount of times he has lied, and the amount of times he has ordered his officials to lie make denials like this not believable anymore.

Gina Cheri Haspel is the Director of the Central Intelligence Agency.

CIA nominee supervised detainee torture at Thailand black site,

Drafted cable to destroy videotape evidence,

Helped feed repeated lies about effectiveness of torture to CIA superiors, Congress, two Presidents

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
1.4.2  Vic Eldred  replied to  Ozzwald @1.4.1    one week ago

The CIA wasn't alone, the New York Times agrees. Suddenly you don't believe either?

But I assume you'll all join hands and vote this lie up.

 
 
 
loki12
1.4.3  loki12  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.4.2    one week ago

Trumps fault, he is so effective he forced Barry to recommend the removal in 2016. be afraid!

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
1.4.4  Vic Eldred  replied to  loki12 @1.4.3    one week ago

It's easy to pull out the inconsistencies, isn't it?   I predict this false story will not be taken down. The haters love it too much!  They don't care if it's a lie.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
1.4.5  Ozzwald  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.4.2    one week ago
The CIA wasn't alone, the New York Times agrees. Suddenly you don't believe either?

Do not believe anything put out by any of Trump's officials.  New York Times? Sure, but that just puts it at "he said she said", we'll just have to wait and see who has more evidence NYT or CNN.

 
 
 
Don Overton
1.4.6  Don Overton  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.4.2    one week ago

Why are you trying so hard to fabricate your own lies about this

 
 
 
CometRider
1.5  CometRider  replied to  JohnRussell @1    one week ago

According to   CNN , multiple Trump administration officials with direct knowledge of the situation claimed that the agency made the decision out of concern that Trump or members of his administration would wind up exposing the spy, inadvertently or otherwise. The CIA's move reportedly came after a May 2017 meeting in the Oval Office.

Already proven to be fake news.

 
 
 
Don Overton
1.5.1  Don Overton  replied to  CometRider @1.5    one week ago

Where has it be proven, in your dreams?

 
 
 
gooseisgone
1.6  gooseisgone  replied to  JohnRussell @1    one week ago
 Michael Flynn and former campaign manager Paul Manafort were both indicted for working as agents for foreign governments.

Paul Manafort

The 18 counts and verdicts:

  • Filing false U.S. individual income tax returns, 2010. Verdict: Guilty
  • Filing false U.S. individual income tax returns, 2011. Verdict: Guilty
  • Filing false U.S. individual income tax returns, 2012. Verdict: Guilty
  • Filing false U.S. individual income tax returns, 2013. Verdict: Guilty
  • Filing false U.S. individual income tax returns, 2014. Verdict: Guilty
  • Failure to file reports of foreign bank and financial accounts, 2011. Verdict: No agreement by jury; judge declares mistrial on this count.
  • Failure to file reports of foreign bank and financial accounts, 2012. Verdict: Guilty
  • Failure to file reports of foreign bank and financial accounts, 2013. Verdict: No agreement by jury; judge declares mistrial on this count.
  • Failure to file reports of foreign bank and financial accounts, 2014. Verdict: No agreement by jury; judge declares mistrial on this count.
  • Bank fraud conspiracy ($3.4 million loan). Verdict: No agreement by jury; judge declares mistrial on this count.
  • Bank fraud ($3.4 million loan). Verdict: Guilty
  • Bank fraud conspiracy ($1 million loan). Verdict: No agreement by jury; judge declares mistrial on this count.
  • Bank fraud ($1 million loan). Verdict: Guilty
  • Bank fraud conspiracy ($5.5 million loan). Verdict: No agreement by jury; judge declares mistrial on this count.
  • Bank fraud conspiracy ($9.5 million loan). Verdict: No agreement by jury; judge declares mistrial on this count.
  • Bank fraud ($9.5 million loan). Verdict: No agreement by jury; judge declares mistrial on this count.
  • Bank fraud conspiracy ($6.5 million loan). Verdict: No agreement by jury; judge declares mistrial on this count.
  • Bank fraud ($6.5 million loan). Verdict: No agreement by jury; judge declares mistrial on this count. 

Please point out the "working as a foreign agent"

 
 
 
MUVA
2  MUVA    one week ago

No names  = fake news I would bet this along with the other 20 thousand BS stories is proven false or at least a half truth. 

 
 
 
bbl-1
2.1  bbl-1  replied to  MUVA @2    one week ago

Sure.  And The Steelers will be in The Super Bowl too, right?  

 
 
 
Ronin2
2.1.1  Ronin2  replied to  bbl-1 @2.1    one week ago

Nope. 

Or is it Trump's fault the Steelers will be mired in mediocrity this season? I am sure Trump put a bug in Antonio Brown's and Leveon Bell's ears last season. Then he made sure Tomlin kept Keith Butler at Defensive Coordinator and Danny Smith at Special Teams coach. Then he convinced Munchak to leave Pittsburgh for Denver.

That might be a little much for even Trump to pull off.

According to the lame stream media there are more leaks in the Trump administration than there are people working there. 

 
 
 
lib50
2.2  lib50  replied to  MUVA @2    one week ago

Since Trump DID meet with the Russians alone with NO AMERICANS, proven fact, why would you try to defend his treason?  The guy has leaked and tweeted classified information more than once.  He put lives at risk.  He is compromising our future national security, nobody will trust us with their classified information!  And you are trying to pretend it is out of left fricken field!  If Trump says fake, its true.  If Trump supporters say its fake, its true.  Because Trump lies and projects.  Why are you ok with this?  Why are you not addressing THAT national security issue?  Why is ok with you for Trump to work with Russians IN PRIVATE?   

ps, no name because the guy is under protection.  

 
 
 
MUVA
2.2.1  MUVA  replied to  lib50 @2.2    one week ago

You have to prove treason unsourced news reports are not proof .Your attitude is why we can have leftist running the country you would have everyone you disagree thrown in jail over unnamed sources. 

 
 
 
lib50
2.2.2  lib50  replied to  MUVA @2.2.1    one week ago

Wow, that is quite the projection muva.  Have I ever advocated for jailing anybody I have a disagreement with?  No.  

Since when are you all atwitter over 'proven unsourced news'?   Trump lies, you accept and repeat them.  Either have standards for all or none, this bullshit having standards for everybody BUT your side is not acceptable.  And still you don't answer any of the points about national security and Trump's penchant for protecting Putin at the expense of this country.  

 
 
 
katrix
2.2.3  katrix  replied to  MUVA @2.2.1    one week ago
unsourced news reports are not proof .

Trump uses them all the time. "Many people say" ... and so on. Why don't you complain about that? It's only when it's an article you don't like that you care about the source.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
2.2.4  Vic Eldred  replied to  katrix @2.2.3    one week ago

It's a false story Kat!

 
 
 
MUVA
2.2.5  MUVA  replied to  katrix @2.2.3    one week ago

How do you know I don’t complain?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
2.2.6  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.2.4    one week ago

It's a false story because The Federalist says so.  ROFL. 

The decision to carry out the extraction occurred soon after a May 2017 meeting in the Oval Office in which Trump discussed highly classified intelligence with Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov and then-Russian Ambassador to the US Sergey Kislyak. The intelligence, concerning ISIS in Syria, had been provided by Israel.
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The disclosure to the Russians by the President, though not about the Russian spy specifically, prompted intelligence officials to renew earlier discussions about the potential risk of exposure, according to the source directly involved in the matter.
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At the time, then-CIA Director Mike Pompeo told other senior Trump administration officials that too much information was coming out regarding the covert source, known as an asset. An extraction, or "exfiltration" as such an operation is referred to by intelligence officials, is an extraordinary remedy when US intelligence believes an asset is in immediate danger.
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Those paragraphs are from the CNN story. If you have proof that these paragraphs are false, now would be the time to present it. 
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We can see from reading the various reports that there was concern about the viability of the spy in Russia from late in 2016 when news reports surfaced about Russia meddling in our election. No one will really dispute that. If Trump had spoke out against Russian interference, instead of encouraging it as he actually did, maybe news reports would have been less interested in the story. 
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The spy's safety was compromised and EVENTUALLY he was removed. CNN has sources that told them part of the reason was Trump's big mouth. 
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Do you have anything that shows that is not true? 
 
 
 
MUVA
2.2.7  MUVA  replied to  katrix @2.2.3    one week ago

I don’t believe any news Story that CNN puts out they have been proven to be untrustworthy.

 
 
 
katrix
2.2.8  katrix  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.2.4    one week ago

According to The Federalist and Fox?  Plenty of other sources are still reporting it as accurate.

I'll wait and see. We know that Trump has a really bad record of babbling classified information to our enemies, so it certainly sounds credible.

 
 
 
MUVA
2.2.9  MUVA  replied to  lib50 @2.2.2    one week ago

You don’t know what Trump has done  if you are using CNN for the truth.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
2.2.10  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  lib50 @2.2    one week ago

The truth is the CNN story is highly plausible. They just don't like it.   The entire right wing of American politics is engaged in an endless attempt to bamboozle the American public about anything and everything having to do with Trump. 

It really is incredible. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
2.2.11  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  MUVA @2.2.9    one week ago

Did Trump reveal U.S. classified information to the Russians visiting him in the oval office in May of 2017? 

Trump revealed highly classified information to Russian ...

https:// www.washingtonpost.com /world/national-security/ trump - revealed -highly- classified ...

May 15, 2017  · (The Washington Post) President   Trump revealed   highly   classified information   to the   Russian foreign   minister and ambassador in a White House meeting last week, according to current and former U.S. officials, who said   Trump’s   disclosures jeopardized a critical source of   intelligence  

  • Trump revealed classified information to Russians ...

    https:// www.businessinsider.com / trump - revealed -highly- classified - information -to-the...

    May 16, 2017  ·   Trump revealed classified information to Russians : Washington Post - Business   Insider Trump   shared highly   classified intelligence with Russian diplomats   last week that …

    • Author:   Allan Smith

  • Trump revealed intelligence secrets to Russians in Oval ...

    https:// www.reuters.com /article/US-USA- trump - russia -idUSKCN18B2MX

    Trump revealed intelligence secrets   to   Russians   in Oval Office: officials. The intelligence, shared at a meeting last week with   Russian Foreign   Minister Sergei Lavrov and   Russian   Ambassador Sergei Kislyak, was supplied by a U.S. ally in the fight against the militant group, both officials with knowledge of the situation said. The White House declared the allegations, first reported by the Washington Post, …

    • Author:   Jeff Mason
  • Report: Trump revealed highly classified info to Russians ...

    https:// thehill.com /.../333496-report- trump - revealed -highly- classified -info- to-russians

    President   Trump revealed   highly   classified intelligence information to the Russian foreign minister and ambassador   while meeting with them last week at the White House, The Washington Post ...

  • Reports: Trump Gave Classified Info To Russians ... - NPR

    https:// www.npr.org /2017/05/15/528511980

    May 15, 2017  · Monday's reports of Trump revealing classified information to the Russians come just ahead of his first foreign trip as president. He's set to depart on Friday, traveling to Saudi Arabia, Israel and the Vatican, then attending a NATO meeting in Brussels, Belgium, and a G7 meeting in Italy.


Five reliable main stream media sources, all with storiues that Trump gave classified information to the Russians in May of 2017. 
It appears that at last in part this led to the removal of the spy from Russia.   I dont know what all you right wingers are complaining about.   You elected a moron and now things happen. 
 
 
 
Dulay
2.2.12  Dulay  replied to  MUVA @2.2.9    one week ago
You don’t know what Trump has done  if you are using CNN for the truth.

You don’t know what Trump has done  if you are relying on Trump for the truth.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
2.2.13  Vic Eldred  replied to  Dulay @2.2.12    one week ago
You don’t know what Trump has done  if you are relying on Trump for the truth.

Are you also backing the CNN lie?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
2.2.14  Vic Eldred  replied to  katrix @2.2.8    one week ago
I'll wait and see.

You mean you'll stand by the lie. Duly noted!

 
 
 
Dulay
2.2.15  Dulay  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.2.13    one week ago

Are you backing the word of the deep state CIA? 

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Vic Eldred
2.2.16  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @2.2.10    one week ago
The truth is the CNN story is highly plausible.

It has been debunked and should be taken down.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
2.2.17  Vic Eldred  replied to  Dulay @2.2.15    one week ago

That's what I expected from you. You are another who would stand by a lie, but I already knew that.

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
2.2.18  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.2.17    one week ago

After three years of fake news you expect a lot.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
2.2.19  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.2.16    one week ago

Debunked by who? The Federalist? lol. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
2.2.20  Vic Eldred  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @2.2.18    one week ago

I know what they've accepted, to see them promoting lies is an even lower level.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
2.2.21  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.2.16    one week ago
Those paragraphs are from the CNN story. If you have proof that these paragraphs are false, now would be the time to present it. 

I said that to you on another comment.   If you have proof that CNN is wrong, lets see it. 

And please dont give us a CIA spokesman. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
2.2.22  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @2.2.21    one week ago
If you have proof that CNN is wrong, lets see it. 

YOU GOT IT

 
 
 
JohnRussell
2.2.23  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.2.22    one week ago

Good. I hope it's better than your last proof. 

 
 
 
Dulay
2.2.24  Dulay  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.2.17    one week ago
That's what I expected from you. You are another who would stand by a lie, but I already knew that.

And strawmen is what I expect from you. Well done...

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
2.2.25  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.2.14    one week ago
You mean you'll stand by the lie. Duly noted!

You spelled Dulay wrong, hopefully, it is Dulay noted.

 
 
 
Dulay
2.2.26  Dulay  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.2.14    one week ago
Are you also backing the CNN lie?

Haven't you used up your daily ration of strawmen yet? 

 
 
 
Don Overton
2.2.27  Don Overton  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.2.4    one week ago

Prove it

 
 
 
Don Overton
2.2.28  Don Overton  replied to  MUVA @2.2.5    one week ago

That's all you do MUVA

 
 
 
Don Overton
2.2.29  Don Overton  replied to  MUVA @2.2.7    one week ago

Prove our hang your head

 
 
 
Don Overton
2.2.30  Don Overton  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.2.16    one week ago

Were, by whom, when, what  is their data

 
 
 
Don Overton
2.2.31  Don Overton  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.2.4    one week ago

[delete]

 
 
 
MUVA
2.2.32  MUVA  replied to  Don Overton @2.2.29    one week ago

I'm hanging something but it isn't my head the big one anyway.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
3  Sean Treacy    one week ago

Somehow you missed the part where the Obama admin was leaking the existence of this spy to discredit the election of Trump. 

 
 
 
MUVA
3.1  MUVA  replied to  Sean Treacy @3    one week ago

That part doesn't count it is only the unnamed  unverified administration official that is important. My guess is CNN took part of a story and sprinkled in some of the special brand of BS. 

 
 
 
1stwarrior
3.2  1stwarrior  replied to  Sean Treacy @3    one week ago

Actually, no, they didn't miss that part.  If it doesn't say Trump, you don't misalign about it.

 
 
 
Krishna
4  Krishna    one week ago

The CIA's move reportedly came after a May 2017 meeting in the Oval Office, when Trump shared highly classified information about ISIS, supplied by Israel, with Russian foreign minister Sergey Lavrov and then-Russian ambassador to the U.S. Sergey Kislyak.

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
4.1  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Krishna @4    one week ago

but , but, they said Obama leaked it...

yea after Trump was in office for almost half a year .

Are you RIGHTIES going to DENY Trump leaked Israeli intelligence to Russia and the WHOLE WORLD ? 

 
 
 
bbl-1
5  bbl-1    one week ago

Bottom line here.  Trump is untrustworthy.  He is also totally ignorant of procedure and history.  He may also be compromised.

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
5.1  igknorantzrulz  replied to  bbl-1 @5    one week ago
He may also be compromised.

C'mon, he IS COMPROMISED

 
 
 
Tessylo
5.2  Tessylo  replied to  bbl-1 @5    one week ago

OF COURSE HE IS COMPROMISED, before he even became 'president'.

 
 
 
loki12
6  loki12    one week ago

So they wanted to remove him in 2016? who was president then? it must have been Barry's fault right? since it happened on his watch? lets see if any of you have any integrity and will put the blame where it belongs, you were willing to blame trump without proof. now that the CIA has said he was compromised in 2016. it has to be Barry the flexible s fault, right? I guess Putin wasn't happy with just Crimea and Syria, he wanted a CIA spy from Barry too. 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
6.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  loki12 @6    one week ago
The CIA's move reportedly came after a May 2017meeting in the Oval Office, when Trump shared highly classified information about ISIS, supplied by Israel, with Russian foreign minister Sergey Lavrov and then-Russian ambassador to the U.S. Sergey Kislyak.

I put it in red and larger letters so you could see it better

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
6.1.1  Vic Eldred  replied to  Trout Giggles @6.1    one week ago
I put it in red and larger letters so you could see it better

Let me do the same for you:

On Monday, CNN bragged of an “exclusive” report that “the United States successfully extracted from Russia one of its highest-level covert sources inside the Russian government” partly because “President Donald Trump and his administration repeatedly mishandled classified intelligence and could contribute to exposing the covert source as a spy.”

In fact, however, officials “mishandled intelligence” and tried to extricate this source in 2016, before Trump even won the presidential election. The New York Times   reports  intelligence officials compromised this source by gossiping about him to news reporters.

“When intelligence officials revealed the severity of Russia’s election interference with unusual detail … the news media picked up on details about the C.I.A.’s Kremlin sources.” Then, “C.I.A. officials … made the arduous decision in late 2016 to offer to extract the source from Russia. … [T]he C.I.A. pressed again months later after more media inquiries.”

President Obama compromised this source even further, right before Trump’s inauguration. Obama authorized the public release and declassification of a   report   by the Director of National Intelligence (DNI) alluding to this source’s placement in the Russian government. The   New York Times   cites the public release of the DNI report as another reason for extracting the source.

The DNI report   incredibly claimed   President Trump was Russian President Vladimir Putin’s favored candidate in the United States presidential election. It said Mr. Putin was, in part, motivated by a “grudge” against Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton “for comments he almost certainly saw as disparaging him.”

In publishing those claims, intelligence officials publicly revealed they were privy to Putin’s private motivations and policy process. This implied they either had a mole in Putin’s inner circle or else were eavesdropping on Putin’s most sensitive discussions. Such a revelation would have been clever if it were false because this could cause Putin to distrust, investigate, or even purge members of his inner circle.

But now it appears the leak was true. Intelligence officials spoiled a bona fide top-level intelligence source operating inside an adversary foreign government just to damage their own American president and government."

https://thefederalist.com/2019/09/10/obama-not-trump-outed-russian-spy/#.XXe1vwU_b0Y.twitter

 
 
 
Texan1211
6.1.2  Texan1211  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1.1    one week ago

Facts won't matter to anti-Trumpers.

Even when given proof.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
6.1.3  Vic Eldred  replied to  Texan1211 @6.1.2    one week ago

The anti-Trumpers will now huddle in silence until this damning story is replaced by the next.

 
 
 
Texan1211
6.1.4  Texan1211  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1.3    one week ago

Well, it IS another day ending in a "Y", so the next story MUST be forthcoming!

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
6.1.5  Vic Eldred  replied to  Texan1211 @6.1.4    one week ago

I'm sure.

 
 
 
KDMichigan
6.1.6  KDMichigan  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1.1    one week ago
In fact, however, officials “mishandled intelligence” and tried to extricate this source in 2016, before Trump even won the presidential election.

What do facts matter when you can run with " reportedly came after a May 2017"? Facts don't matter to the Anti Trumpers. Only feelings are what count when it comes to President Trump.

 
 
 
loki12
6.1.7  loki12  replied to  Trout Giggles @6.1    one week ago

And you are wrong again,  Here i put it in big red letters for you....................

C.I.A. officials worried about safety made the arduous decision in late 2016 to offer to extract the source from Russia.

 
 
 
MrFrost
6.1.8  MrFrost  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1.1    one week ago

The Federalist? Are you kidding me? LOL 

But hey, if it's good enough for Tim McVeigh, it's good enough for the cons.. Wow.. LMFAO! 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
6.1.9  Sean Treacy  replied to  MrFrost @6.1.8    one week ago

You don't know what the Federalist is, do you?

LOL

 
 
 
Don Overton
6.1.10  Don Overton  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1.1    one week ago

Your one source is always the Federalist which doesn't have a good record of telling the real truth

 
 
 
Don Overton
6.1.11  Don Overton  replied to  Texan1211 @6.1.2    one week ago

[delete]

 
 
 
Don Overton
6.1.12  Don Overton  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1.3    one week ago

And you will continue to make up your fairy tales

 
 
 
Don Overton
6.1.13  Don Overton  replied to  Texan1211 @6.1.2    one week ago

[delete]

 
 
 
It Is ME
7  It Is ME    one week ago

I see another "Lawrence O'Donnell" in the making here. jrSmiley_99_smiley_image.jpg

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
8  Sean Treacy    one week ago

How has this not been taken down?

 
 
 
Texan1211
8.1  Texan1211  replied to  Sean Treacy @8    one week ago
How has this not been taken down?

As yet just another in the long line of "I Hate Trump" articles, it is perfectly acceptable. The TRUTH doesn't actually matter.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
8.1.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Texan1211 @8.1    one week ago

We await one of you guys posting truth.  It is a rare occasion. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
8.1.2  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @8.1.1    one week ago
We await one of you guys posting truth.  It is a rare occasion. 

Besides the usual "I Hate Trump"screechings, is there any truth you can actually recognize?

LOL!

 
 
 
Tacos!
8.1.3  Tacos!  replied to  JohnRussell @8.1.1    one week ago
We await one of you guys posting truth.

Here you go. Some truth from the New York Times.

C.I.A. Informant Extracted From Russia Had Sent Secrets to U.S. for Decades

C.I.A. officials worried about safety made the arduous decision in late 2016 to offer to extract the source from Russia. The situation grew more tense when the informant at first refused, citing family concerns — prompting consternation at C.I.A. headquarters and sowing doubts among some American counterintelligence officials about the informant’s trustworthiness. But the C.I.A. pressed again months later after more media inquiries. This time, the informant agreed.

As to the assertion that Trump was somehow to blame,

A C.I.A. spokeswoman responding to the CNN report called the assertion that Mr. Trump’s handling of intelligence drove the reported extraction “misguided speculation.”

So they first wanted to do it in 2016. When they finally made the move in 2017, it wasn't in response to anything Trump related. It was because of the press threatening to expose this source.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
8.1.4  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Tacos! @8.1.3    one week ago
A person directly involved in the discussions said that the removal of the Russian was driven, in part, by concerns that  President Donald Trump  and his administration repeatedly mishandled classified intelligence and could contribute to exposing the covert source as a spy. https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/09/politics/russia-us-spy-extracted/index.html

It is plausible , because, TRUMP REVEALED CLASSIFIED INFORMATION TO RUSSIANS  in the oval office. 

Unless you know for sure that CNN or its source are lying, and I have no idea how you could, you just have to live with the story. 

You can argue that the real reason was xyz , or Hillarys emails did it, or whatever. 

 
 
 
Tacos!
8.1.5  Tacos!  replied to  JohnRussell @8.1.4    one week ago
It is plausible

Plausible? What an incredibly low standard you hold CNN to. Is it because they hate Trump as much as you? Do you hold other journalists to this plausibility standard? What about when they report on something you don't like to hear?

In any event, I think you are stretching the definition of even the "plausible" standard to a degree not seen since the invention of Silly Putty.

First, the CIA was already prepared to make the move in 2016. It is NOT plausible that that decision nor the sentiment behind it could be related to Trump's handling of classified intelligence because he did not have access to classified intelligence at that time.

Second, the only reason that it's plausible in 2017 is because it's plausible that anyone with access to classified intelligence could potentially mishandle it. What is known is that the CIA felt that the media had - or was close to having - actual access to classified information and further, that they were going to release that information.

So, the only way your plausibility standard could ever possibly mesh with reality is if the media was getting its information from Trump himself and there is zero evidence to support that.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
8.1.6  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Tacos! @8.1.5    one week ago

I have a new policy. I dont pay any attention to die hard Trumpsters who make non believable excuses for his preposterous behavior every day. Enough is enough. . 

 
 
 
Texan1211
8.1.7  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @8.1.6    one week ago

My policy is to LMFAO at the "I Hate Trump"-sters spewing nonsense 24/7!

 
 
 
JohnRussell
8.1.8  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Texan1211 @8.1.7    one week ago

One of us has a good hand to play.....  and then there is you.. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
8.1.9  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @8.1.8    one week ago

Why not simply admit the TRUTH--that you DO pay attention to the pro-Trump crowd, which is why you seed the endless stream of "I Hate Trump" crud day after day after day after day after day after day after day after day?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
8.1.10  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Texan1211 @8.1.9    one week ago

A lot of right wingers constantly want to know "the resistance" wont give Trump a chance. 

Because we have watched him in the nightly news and online for the past 4 years, since late June 2015. Thats over 1500 days of Trump.  At least 1450 too many. 

I dont hate Trump, but it has always been completely easy to see he is unfit for office. 

Do you actually expect people to accept someone who is completely unfit for office? You were told in 2016 that he would never be accepted. We didnt lie to you, did we? 

 
 
 
Tacos!
8.1.11  Tacos!  replied to  JohnRussell @8.1.6    one week ago
I dont pay any attention to

I think you mean "I don't pay any attention to facts"

 
 
 
JohnRussell
8.1.12  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Tacos! @8.1.11    one week ago

I have some shortcomings, but not understanding facts is not one of them. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
8.1.13  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @8.1.10    one week ago
I dont hate Trump, 

Quite possibly THE single most unbelievable thing ever printed, anywhere, anytime!

I don't give a damn what you "accept". Your personal acceptance isn't necessary or even noteworthy.

Whether YOU personally accept it or not, Trump IS your President, and the simple fact of the matter is you just can't STAND it!

LMFAO!

 
 
 
Tacos!
8.1.14  Tacos!  replied to  JohnRussell @8.1.12    one week ago

I didn't say you didn't understand facts. I wouldn't even bother offering them if I thought you couldn't understand them. I said you ignore them. You also engage in character attacks with that "die hard Trumpsters" stuff, but that's maybe a different topic.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
8.1.15  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Tacos! @8.1.14    one week ago

If it was up to me, Trump supporters would be treated much more harshly on this site than they are.  But the "rules" of Newstalkers do not allow the bitter truth to be told.  I have had many many dozens of comments deleted for telling Trump supporters the truth. 

 
 
 
1stwarrior
8.1.16  1stwarrior  replied to  JohnRussell @8.1.15    one week ago

John - when you start talking truth other than your rendition of it, many more folks might actually discuss with you instead of railing at you.

Try it, you might like it.

 
 
 
Don Overton
8.1.17  Don Overton  replied to  Texan1211 @8.1    one week ago

Especially when you the right says it.  Just like your statement is nothing more than false chatter

 
 
 
Don Overton
8.1.18  Don Overton  replied to  JohnRussell @8.1.1    one week ago

I  fear it will never happen in our life times John

 
 
 
Tacos!
8.1.19  Tacos!  replied to  JohnRussell @8.1.15    one week ago
I have had many many dozens of comments deleted for telling Trump supporters the truth. 

Is that why? You don't think that maybe . . . just MAAAYYYYBE . . . it might have something to do with your delivery?

 
 
 
Don Overton
8.1.20  Don Overton  replied to  Texan1211 @8.1.9    one week ago

Because they do nothing but lie just like  your comment

 
 
 
MUVA
8.1.21  MUVA  replied to  Texan1211 @8.1.9    one week ago

It isn't really directed at Trump it is directed at you and me Trump never see's the BS.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
8.1.22  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Tacos! @8.1.19    one week ago

The people who voted for Trump and continue to support Trump are ENTIRELY to blame for what has happened (a pathological liar is the president of the United States). We are told that we can criticize Trump but not his supporters, as if they are innocent. 

PRIOR to election day 2016 it was well known that Trump was a habitual liar, a crook ( defrauded Trump U students) , a conspiracy nut (head birther), a bully (see 2016 GOP debates), a misogynist (accused of sexual assault by multiple women , and his own words on Access Hollywood tape), a racist ( comments about Mexican judge, which Paul Ryan called a "textbook example" of racism) and a demagogue (multiple Trump "lock her up" rallies). All of that, and more was known prior to the 2016 election. 

Yet Trumpsters voted for him anyway, knowing all that. They are the problem in America today, and have been for 3 or 4 years. 

 
 
 
Tacos!
8.1.23  Tacos!  replied to  JohnRussell @8.1.22    one week ago
ENTIRELY to blame for what has happened

What happened? I get that you see Trump as this big liar. That's fine. But what has happened? When I look around, things seem pretty ok.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
8.1.24  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Tacos! @8.1.23    one week ago

If you think Trump is acceptable as president of the United States, especially for four more years, I can't help you. 

We have a war going on in this country, and if it has to be, so be it. 

 
 
 
MUVA
8.1.25  MUVA  replied to  JohnRussell @8.1.24    one week ago

We need to come together as a country your rhetoric isn't helpful.I have friends that are liberal and they scoff at any talks of civil war which would maybe last a day.  

 
 
 
Tacos!
8.1.26  Tacos!  replied to  JohnRussell @8.1.24    one week ago
If you think Trump is acceptable as president of the United States, especially for four more years, I can't help you. 

You're avoiding the point. What is it that has happened that you find so unacceptable? I'm not talking about the man. I'm talking about the country. Because for most people, that's what matters.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
8.1.27  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  MUVA @8.1.25    one week ago

It is not a shooting war, it is a war of ideas and character over the direction of the country, but particularly over the idea of a dishonest moron being re-elected president of the United States. Do you want to unite the country? support someone other than Donald Trump to be the Republican nominee in 2020. Throw him under the bus. 

 
 
 
Tacos!
8.1.28  Tacos!  replied to  JohnRussell @8.1.27    one week ago
It is not a shooting war

Well, no! It couldn't be. Not when one side hates guns and sees no point in the 2nd Amendment, right? You just don't have the option of a shooting war. jrSmiley_86_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
MUVA
8.1.29  MUVA  replied to  Tacos! @8.1.26    one week ago

It isn't Trump some people  hate it their fellow Americans because they dare to disagree or find their BS nauseating.Probably a little jealousy also a lot of people were sure wealth distributional was a sure thing if Hillary was elected and ended up having the rug pulled from under them for their on chance to be middle class or so they thought.  

 
 
 
MUVA
8.1.30  MUVA  replied to  JohnRussell @8.1.27    one week ago

If Trump loses it doesn't effect me if he wins it doesn't effect me. Your hubris makes you think that you are some how smarter than everyone else you are not and will have to learn to live with disappointment . 

 
 
 
MUVA
8.1.31  MUVA  replied to  Tacos! @8.1.28    one week ago

Not to mention most war fighters I work with that include seal teams ,special boat unit ,STDV teams ACU ,RIV RON, I can go on and on you don't find leftist types. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
8.1.32  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Tacos! @8.1.26    one week ago

First of all, Trump has NEVER had the majority of Americans behind him. You don't have "most people" in agreement with you in terms of trump. You can say you dont believe in polls, but you cannot find a shred of evidence that says Trump, or Trumpism,  is popular with "most Americans". It is a non existent concept. 

By all accounts Trump is shedding suburban and independent voters. His chance of winning a majority vote in 2020 are non existent. He has to hope that 45%  (or less) gets it done. 

The Republicans, if they really cared about this country, would replace him on the ticket. 

 
 
 
MUVA
8.1.33  MUVA  replied to  JohnRussell @8.1.24    one week ago

I think the supreme court justices and my tax cuts are acceptable a long with all wining.

 
 
 
MUVA
8.1.34  MUVA  replied to  JohnRussell @8.1.32    one week ago

When the election is over I will come together with my fellow Americans regardless of the outcome. I believe so much in this country and my fellow citizens I volunteered twice for combat.I will not allow malcontents on the internet to sway my vote or try to intimidate me.

 
 
 
Freedom Warrior
8.1.35  Freedom Warrior  replied to  JohnRussell @8.1.27    one week ago

How about we start with you giving up on every idea you ever had 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
8.1.36  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Freedom Warrior @8.1.35    one week ago

Since most of my ideas agree with the beliefs of a majority of Americans , why would I do that? 

 
 
 
MUVA
8.1.37  MUVA  replied to  JohnRussell @8.1.36    one week ago

Which ideas? This should be good.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
8.1.38  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  MUVA @8.1.37    one week ago

Am I running for office? Im not going to write a position paper for you. 

I'll give you one though . 76% of Americans , in other words an overwhelming majority, want to see the wealthy pay more in taxes. 

Most Americans Support Increasing Taxes on the Wealthy ...

https://fortune.com/2019/02/04/support-for- tax -increase-on-wealthy-americans- poll

Feb 05, 2019  · Support for  raising taxes  is widespread, according to a new  poll , which found that 76% of registered voters want the wealthiest Americans to pay more. …

 
 
 
JohnRussell
8.1.39  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  JohnRussell @8.1.38    one week ago

  72 percent  of Americans consider climate change to be a moderate, serious, or imminent threat. A big reason for the growing concern is that many of the consequences of climate change have become impossible to ignore in recent years.

https://www.vox.com/2019/1/28/18197262/climate-change-poll-public-opinion-carbon-tax

 
 
 
JohnRussell
8.1.40  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  JohnRussell @8.1.39    one week ago

According to the poll from Business Insider's partner MSN,  87 % of Democrats and  52 % of Republicans support stricter laws on assault weapons. The nationwide average of  70 % is even higher than the  67 % that want to ban assault weapons and the  66 % that wanted tougher gun laws in general in a recent Quinnipiac University poll.

 
 
 
MUVA
8.1.41  MUVA  replied to  JohnRussell @8.1.40    one week ago

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MUVA
8.1.42  MUVA  replied to  JohnRussell @8.1.40    one week ago

Those really aren't Ideas to fix problems they are poll numbers.Lets see your ideas like how to fix the homeless problem not poll numbers ideas.  

 
 
 
Freedom Warrior
8.1.43  Freedom Warrior  replied to  JohnRussell @8.1.36    one week ago

Why?  Because we would all be better off.

 
 
 
lib50
8.1.44  lib50  replied to  JohnRussell @8.1.15    one week ago
I have had many many dozens of comments deleted for telling Trump supporters the truth. 

They always delete the ones they consider closest to the truth they are afraid will come out.  

 
 
 
loki12
9  loki12    one week ago

Trump is just horrible, can you believe he told the Pakistan government the name of the doctor who gave us Bin Laden? Now that poor guy is rotting in jail.

Or the time that the trump press office released the identity of the head of the CIA in Afghanistan, to the foreign press in Afghanistan! 

What a traitorous bastard! 

 
 
 
1stwarrior
9.1  1stwarrior  replied to  loki12 @9    one week ago

"trump press office released the identity of the head of the CIA in Afghanistan"

False information - Came from the Obama WH - not the Trump WH.

White House mistakenly identifies CIA chief in Afghanistan

May 25, 2014

The CIA’s top officer in Kabul was exposed Saturday by the White House when his name was inadvertently included on a list provided to news organizations of senior U.S. officials participating in President Obama’s surprise visit with U.S. troops.

The White House recognized the mistake and quickly issued a revised list that did not include the individual, who had been identified on the initial release as the “Chief of Station” in Kabul, a designation used by the CIA for its highest-ranking spy in a country.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/white-house-mistakenly-identifies-cia-chief-in-afghanistan/2014/05/25/ac8e80cc-e444-11e3-8f90-73e071f3d637_story.html?noredirect=on

Nice try.

 
 
 
loki12
9.1.1  loki12  replied to  1stwarrior @9.1    one week ago

Trump also didn’t give Pakistan the name of the doctor who gave us bin laden, but since the low functioning left blames trump for everything, I thought I would help them out.

Im also blaming trump for you missing my sarcasm. 

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
10  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh    one week ago

There is an endless supply of fake news. This story was quickly debunked.

 
 
 
devangelical
10.1  devangelical  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @10    one week ago
There is an endless supply of fake news.

no doubt. almost every time the piss-guzzler in chief opens the russian hooker urinal under his nose to speak.

 
 
 
Don Overton
10.2  Don Overton  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @10    one week ago

Yet you are not showing the proof, and please don't use your precious Federalist,they lie as much as anyone

 
 
 
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