Trump warns of 'bad people' among Bahamas hurricane survivors

Via:  tessylo  •  3 months ago  •  32 comments

Trump warns of 'bad people' among Bahamas hurricane survivors

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Trump warns of 'bad people' among Bahamas hurricane survivors

04fa4660-8b0f-11e6-8636-cbc0321bcf4b_AFP   AFP   14 hours ago  

4db0268bb5588b7a0463a0196cef58642cc3a6bf US President Donald Trump -- who has made strict immigration regulations a pillar of his presidency -- told reporters that "we have to be careful" about Dorian survivors arriving from the Bahamas (AFP Photo/NICHOLAS KAMM)

Washington (AFP) - President Donald Trump said Monday that the US would have to be careful about allowing Bahamian survivors of Hurricane Dorian into the country, warning there could be "very bad people" among them.

The previous day, several hundred storm survivors were prevented from boarding a ferry from the Bahamas to Florida because they lacked US visas -- an incident that a top American immigration official said was a mistake.

Speaking to reporters outside the White House, the president -- who has made strict immigration regulations a pillar of his presidency -- said that "everyone needs totally proper documentation."

"The Bahamas has some tremendous problems with people going to the Bahamas that weren't supposed to be there," Trump said.

"I don't want to allow people that weren't supposed to be in the Bahamas to come into the United States, including some very bad people and some very bad gang members and some very, very bad drug dealers."

Since he took office in 2016, Trump has made multiple efforts to stem the inflow of migrants, mainly from Central America.

When announcing his candidacy in June 2015, Trump made derogatory statements about immigrants from Mexico similar to what he said about Dorian survivors, warning they were bringing "drugs" and "crime," and were "rapists."

Mark Morgan, the acting commissioner of US Customs and Border Protection, said the ferry incident was a mistake and the result of "some confusion."

"If your life is in jeopardy in the Bahamas... you're going to be allowed into the United States," provided the people arriving are not deemed a threat, he said.

Authorities in the Bahamas have updated the death toll from Hurricane Dorian to 45, one week after the storm battered the archipelago.

Police are calling for the public to register details of the many people still missing


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1  seeder  Tessylo    3 months ago

Just where the fuck are these survivors supposed to go you scumbag?

They have NOTHING.

1.1  Ronin2  replied to  Tessylo @1    3 months ago

You do know there is a whole vast world outside of the US right?

They can start with Britain.

In 1969 the name Commonwealth of the Bahama Islands was adopted, but upon independence, on July 10, 1973, the official form became The Commonwealth of The Bahamas. The PLP maintained its position as the majority party after independence. The main opposition was formed by the Free National Movement (FNM), established in 1972 through a merger between the UBP and alienated anti-independence PLP members calling themselves the Free PLP. The government embarked on programs to improve economic development, increase the standard of living , and halt the rising unemployment rate . The Bahamas is a member of the Caribbean Community and Common Market (Caricom; joined 1983), the United Nations (1973), UNESCO (1981), the Organization of American States (1982), and the Commonwealth (1973).

Commonwealth , also called  Commonwealth of Nations , formerly (1931–49)  British Commonwealth of Nations , a free association of sovereign states comprising the United Kingdom and a number of its former dependencies who have chosen to maintain ties of friendship and practical cooperation and who acknowledge the British monarch as symbolic head of their association. In 1965 the Commonwealth Secretariat was established in London to organize and coordinate Commonwealth activities. Historically, the Commonwealth was an evolutionary outgrowth of the British Empire. The traditional British policy of allowing considerable self-government in its colonies led to the existence by the 19th century of several dependent

Sorry if you don't like our immigration laws. The Democratic platform of open borders for everyone, from anywhere, at anytime isn't going to work.

1.1.1  seeder  Tessylo  replied to  Ronin2 @1.1    3 months ago

The democratic platform is not open borders for everyone, from anywhere, at anytime.

So fuck these Bahamanian survivors who now have nothing?

1.1.2  katrix  replied to  Ronin2 @1.1    3 months ago
They can start with Britain.

I was wondering about that. It seems to be me that Britain should be stepping up here, but I haven't heard anything about that.

1.1.3  Ronin2  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.1    3 months ago
The democratic platform is not open borders for everyone, from anywhere, at anytime.

Tell that to the insane exploding clown car of Democratic candidates.

But some candidates are taking the debate further. Castro, the only Latino candidate in the Democratic primary, was first to propose a radical reshaping of immigration enforcement by calling to repeal the provision that makes “illegal entry” into the US a federal crime. The law has been on the books for decades but was rarely enforced until the George W. Bush administration, when criminal prosecution of unauthorized immigrants for illegal entry became increasingly common.

Many candidates have followed suit: Sanders, Warren, Harris, Booker, Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand, Inslee, Rep. Seth Moulton, Marianne Williamson, Andrew Yang, and Miramar, Florida, Mayor Wayne Messam have all support repealing the provision that makes being apprehended at the border a criminal offense.

Warren’s plan , she admits, “has a lot of Castro” in it. It not only decriminalizes crossing the border without papers but also includes reductions in immigration detention, the elimination of private detention facilities, and protecting schools, medical facilities, and courthouses from immigration enforcement.

Warren also called for ending programs that allow local law enforcement to be deputized as federal immigration officers, pledged to admit six to eight times as many refugees as Trump has in her first years as president, and to implement proposals that would make it easier for asylum seekers to get a day in court. Almost all the candidates support alternatives to detention facilities , including electronic monitoring and social work monitoring.

No open borders there at all. jrSmiley_98_smiley_image.gif

So fuck these Bahamanian survivors who now have nothing?

They are already getting US aid, and if you read my post they should have options elsewhere if they don't want to follow our immigration laws.

It Is ME
1.1.4  It Is ME  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.1    3 months ago
The democratic platform is not open borders for everyone, from anywhere, at anytime

Do the Democrats want "Restrictions" on whom can come to this country ?

If so....what are they ?

1.3  WallyW  replied to  Tessylo @1    3 months ago

So you have no problem allowing known criminals into  the US?

It Is ME
1.4  It Is ME  replied to  Tessylo @1    3 months ago
Just where the fuck are these survivors supposed to go you scumbag?

Go WEST my friend, GO WEST !

Nancy Pelosi's home State might work out well ! Maybe California can pass a "New Tax", so the California Citizens can fund …….. #moreTentsandgarbageontheStreet !

2  Kavika     3 months ago

OMG, Sean Connery is coming to the U.S...Horrible, just horrible.  /s

2.1  Ronin2  replied to  Kavika @2    3 months ago

Connery has money and can go wherever he likes. I would have to check; but he is Scottish- and at one time maintained a permanent residence in England for tax purposes. 

Pretty sure he will be OK.

2.1.1  Kavika   replied to  Ronin2 @2.1    3 months ago

He was been a full-time resident of Bahama since the 1990s. 

We need to stop him from coming to the US...He definitely is a ''bad people''....

Dean Moriarty
2.1.2  Dean Moriarty  replied to  Kavika @2.1.1    3 months ago

He might be happier where he can smack women around. We don’t want this crap here.

“I don't think there is anything particularly wrong about hitting a woman - although I don't recommend doing it in the same way that you'd hit a man.

'An open-handed slap is justified, if all other alternatives fail and there has been plenty of warning. If a woman is a bitch, or hysterical, or bloody-minded continually, then I'd do it.'

Sean Connery

2.1.3  Ronin2  replied to  Kavika @2.1.1    3 months ago

Want to place bets that Connery has a valid VISA or passport? He has money, don't worry about him.

I do find it funny you are worried about someone so well off. What ever happened to no charity for the rich?

Paula Bartholomew
2.1.4  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Ronin2 @2.1.3    3 months ago

I don't care how well off someone might be.  To see your home and a country you love destroyed hurts you to your core.  

2.1.5  Kavika   replied to  Ronin2 @2.1.3    3 months ago

Do you not understand what /s means, Ronin?

3  seeder  Tessylo    3 months ago

Sounds like Puerto Rico - those dusky hued folks are not deserving of aid.  

3.1  Ronin2  replied to  Tessylo @3    3 months ago


Puetro Rico received 40 billion in aid for Maria; of course they haven't claimed all if yet- since they can't meet the requirements of how and where the money will be used. Of course that is to prevent the corruption in that is rampant in their government.

WASHINGTON – The Democratic lawmaker who chairs the House committee that oversees Puerto Rico called on the island's governor to step down after six people, including Puerto Rico's former secretary of education, were arrested Wednesday on federal fraud charges. 

Former Education Secretary Julia Keleher and Ángela Ávila-Marrero, former head of Puerto Rico's Health Insurance Administration, were arrested on 32 counts of fraud, theft and money laundering, along with two businessmen and two sisters who worked as education contractors.

In the indictment, prosecutors allege that Keleher steered government contracts "through a corrupt bidding process" to an unqualified firm run by Glenda Ponce-Mendoza and Mayra Ponce-Mendoza, with whom she had a "close relationship." 

"It was alleged that the defendants engaged in a public corruption campaign and profited at the expense of the Puerto Rican citizens and students," said Neil Sanchez, special agent in charge of the U.S. Department of Education’s Office of Inspector General’s Southern Region, at a news conference on Wednesday.

Officials said there was no evidence Keleher or Ávila-Marrero had personally benefited from the scheme.

On Wednesday, a tweet from the National Resources Committee – which has jurisdiction over U.S. territories, including Puerto Rico – said Chairman Raúl Grijalva, D-Ariz., "is calling for Gov. Rossello of Puerto Rico to step down given multiple arrests in a corruption probe."

SAN JUAN, Puerto Rico --   A mayor and two former government officials in   Puerto Rico   face public corruption charges in separate cases that involve a total of $8 million in federal and local funds, authorities said Thursday. The suspects are the mayor of the southwest town of Sabana Grande and the former directors of finance for the northern town of Toa Baja, which has struggled to pay its employees amid an 11-year recession.

U.S. Attorney Rosa Emilia Rodriguez told reporters that the former officials from Toa Baja are accused of using nearly $5 million worth of federal funds to pay the town's public employees and municipal contractors.

"Not only is that illegal, it's immoral," she said.

Officials said former finance director Victor Cruz Quintero deposited some $2.5 million worth of funds from the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development into the town's general and payroll accounts in October 2014.

He also is accused of making similar deposits and transfers of more than $1.75 million in funds from HUD and the Department of Health and Human Services from September 2014 to February 2016.

Toa Baja's former interim finance director, Angel Roberto Santos Garcia, is accused of making similar transactions worth $650,000 using funds from those two federal agencies.

It was not immediately clear if Cruz and Santos had attorneys.

Rodriguez said the investigation into alleged corruption in Toa Baja is ongoing because officials believe other people are involved.

Federal authorities said that Mayor Miguel Ortiz is accused of defrauding the federal government of nearly $3 million in a separate scheme that began in 2013 and ended in 2016.

US allocated more money to Puerto Rico just recently.

President Donald Trump said he signed a long-awaited $19 billion disaster relief bill on Thursday to give aid to states and territories ravaged by storms. The delayed legislation will send funds to the hurricane-battered island of Puerto Rico and to states damaged by hurricanes, flooding, wildfires and earthquakes. The recipients include California, Florida, Georgia and Iowa.

Let's keep throwing money at them. I am sure if we throw enough it will make it through all of the corruption in government and finally reach the people that need it.

3.1.1  seeder  Tessylo  replied to  Ronin2 @3.1    3 months ago

What took the scumbag so long?

4  freepress    3 months ago

What about all the bad people here? The Senate won't bring gun issues to a full vote. We have seen that all of us have more to fear from white male shooters than any poor person from the Bahamas who lost everything. They don't have their documents if everything they had was destroyed. This is delusional, paranoid and inhumane.

4.1  seeder  Tessylo  replied to  freepress @4    3 months ago

Exactly freepress.

The majority of the terrorists here are the right wing extremists, supporters of this 'president'.

5  seeder  Tessylo    3 months ago

'The Senate won't bring gun issues to a full vote.'

Because one of their top Russian money launderers, the NRA, told this 'president' and his corrupt gop administration NYET

5.1.1  seeder  Tessylo  replied to  katrix @5.1    3 months ago

He's such a tRump ass kissing, bootlicking, knee pad wearing scum.

6  Krishna    3 months ago

Trump is right-- as usual. What we urgently need is a Wall between the Bahamas and the U.S.! Because day in, day out, the Bahamians are not sending us their best. Oh No-- they're continually sending us their murderers, their rapists, and their drug dealers . . . 

But the bad news is that since the base of the WallTwill have to be built underwater, it will cost big bucks.

(However the good news is-- The Bahamas is going to pay for it!)

7  Tacos!    3 months ago

I'm happy to help the people of The Bahamas, but let's not get the idea that they are specifically the responsibility of the United States, because they aren't. Other countries are also very capable of helping them.

I guess not everybody knows this, but the Commonwealth of The Bahamas is not part of the United States. It's not a state or a territory of the US. It's an independent, sovereign country. And, by the way, it's one of the richer countries in the hemisphere by GDP. 

As you can see from this live webcam, cruise ships are still stopping in, buildings are still standing, etc. It's not 100% devastation by any means.


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