18 years after 9/11, thousands of first responders still struggle with health issues

  
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18 years after 9/11, thousands of first responders still struggle with health issues
You made me come down here the day before my 69th round of chemo.

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Nearly two decades after the September 11th attacks, some 33,000 first responders continue to struggle with illnesses and injuries related to their exposure to the toxic rubble. Lester Holt speaks to retired NYPD detective Dennis Murphy, who says he is “living on borrowed time,” and the brother of Luis Alvarez, who fought for funding for the September 11th Victims Compensation Fund.



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TᵢG
1  seeder  TᵢG    3 months ago

It lingers ...

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
1.1  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  TᵢG @1    3 months ago

I have known too many who have died from it and many more who live with it. It's awful. 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
1.1.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @1.1    3 months ago

I heard a report about a school that was close to the towers. Students at that school have a very high rate of cancer

 
 
 
XDm9mm
1.1.2  XDm9mm  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.1.1    3 months ago
I heard a report about a school that was close to the towers. Students at that school have a very high rate of cancer

I'll need to ask my nephew (by marriage) if he knows of anything.  He was a teacher and had to pull the kids away from the windows when the tower victims started jumping as they were watching.

The kids didn't know what was falling fortunately.  Then my nephew realized it was people jumping and got them to the other side of the building in another classroom.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
1.1.3  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  XDm9mm @1.1.2    3 months ago

Your nephew is a hero in his own right.  By sheltering his students from the horror he was witnessing, he spared them the emotional scars it could have caused.

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
2  igknorantzrulz    3 months ago

All while a 'comedian' , that many on the right would have you believe, is a perposterous being to obtain information from, has become, basically a leading Army by,for, and of one, 

fighting for so many that our pos elected officials would allow to Die, very poor with out our countries full support, 

just fckn ridiculous

maybe we could raid our military budget....

 
 
 
Kavika
3  Kavika     3 months ago

A sad commentary on our moral responsibility to those that were the first responders. 

It took a comedian to fight for the first responders. 

 
 
 
MrFrost
3.1  MrFrost  replied to  Kavika @3    3 months ago

It took a comedian to fight for the first responders. 

And a POTUS to use the tragedy to bolster his own ego, via lying, again.  

https://twitter.com/goangelo/status/722224694078779392?lang=en

 
 
 
MUVA
3.2  MUVA  replied to  Kavika @3    3 months ago

Not really it was going to be done anyway there was bipartisan support for this.

 
 
 
Ender
4  Ender    3 months ago

I watched Mr Alvarez and Mr Stewart when they testified. Heart breaking really.

Then McConnell didn't want to bring it up on the floor. That blew me away.

They are heroes and should get top notch treatment. Everything available.

Our congress people get top notch care while they can afford it and don't deserve it.

Something seriously wrong with our system.

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
4.1  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Ender @4    3 months ago

Damn Straight

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
4.2  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Ender @4    3 months ago

Totally agree with you. 

These guys went beyond the call of duty. They were lied to about the air quality. Christine Whitney stating that there were no worries about the air quality, as the air quality was completely safe. So many of these men would not be dying today had they wore protective gear. 

 
 
 
MUVA
4.2.1  MUVA  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @4.2    3 months ago

Why didn’t they wear protective gear?

 
 
 
TᵢG
4.2.2  seeder  TᵢG  replied to  MUVA @4.2.1    3 months ago

They were not aware of the true level of chemical danger at the time.

 
 
 
XDm9mm
4.2.3  XDm9mm  replied to  MUVA @4.2.1    3 months ago
Why didn’t they wear protective gear?

They were lied to.  They were told that it was perfectly safe to breath.

What was broadcast only once was a report from the Coast Guard that they could not even identify the materials they gathered and tested as they fit no known chemical combination.

You can't get a good result from blending PCB's, asbestos, plastics vaporized, carpeting burned and melted, jet fuel, wall board, fuels, and too many other things than we can even think of, and of course human remains into one toxic stew of smoke and dust.

 
 
 
MUVA
4.2.4  MUVA  replied to  TᵢG @4.2.2    3 months ago

I remember at the time a abatement expert offered his company’s services and I also thought the EPA had told them special equipment was needed.I media blast as part of my business anyone working in that environment should been wearing full head to toe protection.It is hard for me to believe with OSHA around this was allowed to happen truly sad.

 
 
 
MUVA
4.2.5  MUVA  replied to  XDm9mm @4.2.3    3 months ago

It is truly sad someone didn’t step forward and tell somebody regardless you have wear a respirator if OSHA came by our shop and someone was blasting or sanding with out a respirator they would fine the pants off me we deal with TBT in some older paints.

 
 
 
XDm9mm
4.2.6  XDm9mm  replied to  MUVA @4.2.5    3 months ago
It is truly sad someone didn’t step forward and tell somebody regardless you have wear a respirator if OSHA came by our shop and someone was blasting or sanding with out a respirator they would fine the pants off me we deal with TBT in some older paints.

Even if they were told, there weren't any respirators available, at least not in the quantities needed in the time necessary.   The fire fighters had Scot Packs available, but they're heavy and of limited time use.   

When the towers came down, I feel pretty confident that anyone there would have told any OSHA inspector to shove it and pitch in to help.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
4.2.7  Trout Giggles  replied to  XDm9mm @4.2.6    3 months ago
anyone there would have told any OSHA inspector to shove it and pitch in to help.

I think you're right about that

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
4.2.8  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  MUVA @4.2.4    3 months ago

No, the EPA said it was safe, too. They were all guilty. 

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
4.2.9  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  XDm9mm @4.2.6    3 months ago

Yeah, I have to agree. I just heard a first responder who has now undergone over 60 rounds of chemo for widespread cancer say he would do it again. These men and women were true heros. 

 
 
 
r.t..b...
4.2.10  r.t..b...  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @4.2    3 months ago
So many of these men would not be dying today had they wore protective gear. 

To be a victim of the circumstance is bad enough. Even worse, and frankly inexcusable, is the continued reluctance to address and remedy the life-threatening conditions resulting from the unflinching performance of their duties. Good on Mr. Stewart for his advocacy and equally unflinching support for all those exposed to the toxic environment in 2001 and sadly, the toxic environment that for some inexplicable reason, lingers on 18 years after the fact.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
5  Paula Bartholomew    3 months ago

I am still upset that a triage was staged so close to the tower that had not fallen yet.  Rule of thumb is you set triage one and one third's distance the height of a compromised structure.

 
 
 
MUVA
5.1  MUVA  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @5    3 months ago

I didn’t know it close that does seem very stupid it looks like there was failure every where except the for the first responders themselves.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
6  Perrie Halpern R.A.    3 months ago

What is really bad is that there are many apartment complexes in the direct area and that people were told it was safe to go home. 

 
 
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