Banning Flavored E-Cigarettes Has Nothing to Do With the Hazards of Black-Market Cannabis Products

  
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Banning Flavored E-Cigarettes Has Nothing to Do With the Hazards of Black-Market Cannabis Products
New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo and other prohibitionists continue to conflate the two issues.

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New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo   announced   yesterday that he plans to impose an "emergency" ban on the sale of flavored e-cigarettes. Cuomo's ban, like   Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer's   and the   Trump administration's , is officially a response to "the increasing number of youth using vape products." Yet his press release also says "these efforts follow a series of actions taken by the Governor aimed at addressing the growing use of vaping products, which have come under national scrutiny following a rising number of cases of vaping-associated respiratory illnesses."

The implication is that legal e-cigarettes have something to do with those "vaping-associated respiratory illnesses." But as far as we know, that isn't true. Data from California, Illinois, New Mexico, and Wisconsin indicate that the   vast majority   of these patients had vaped black-market THC products. The   leading theory   among state and federal investigators is that the illnesses are caused by additives or contaminants in those products, and possibly also black-market nicotine e-liquid. One   possible culprit   is vitamin E acetate, which was detected in most samples of THC fluid tested by New York's state lab and by the federal Food and Drug Administration (FDA).


Notwithstanding the evidence from his own investigators, Cuomo seems to be deliberately muddling the issue. "Vaping is dangerous, period," the governor   said   at a press conference yesterday. "No one can say long-term use of vaping—where you're inhaling steam and chemicals deep into your lungs—is healthy."

While it's true that we do not have long-term data on the health effects of vaping, we know enough to conclude that the habit is   far less dangerous   than smoking, which produces many more hazardous substances at far higher levels. For smokers considering a switch to vaping, the relevant question is not whether e-cigarettes are "healthy" but whether they are less deadly that the conventional, combustible kind. And on that point there is no serious scientific dispute.

The insinuation that legal e-cigarettes, which have been in wide use for years, are to blame for these recent lung disease cases is apt to drive vapers back to smoking and discourage current smokers from making a switch that could save their lives. That is unambiguously bad for public health. Likewise the plans to ban the vaping products that former smokers   overwhelmingly prefer , a policy that poses the additional hazard of driving both adult and teenaged vapers toward black-market nicotine concoctions that may pose special dangers.

"The e-cigarettes and the vaping devices are often used to vape other substances," such as "THC" and "vitamin E acetate," Cuomo noted during his press conference. "And many of these other products have no controls on them whatsoever, the so-called counterfeit products. They're not cleared by the FDA. There's been no analysis of them at all. So vaping is dangerous." Under the cover of "vaping is dangerous," Cuomo is imposing a ban that will lead to greater use of the "counterfeit products" that are "not cleared by the FDA," have not been analyzed, and "have no controls on them whatsoever." How does that make sense?

Press reports continue to amplify this misleading message, warning about the dangers of "e-cigarettes" and "vaping" in general instead of focusing on the specific hazards of black-market products. "Amid a surge of vaping-related illnesses and deaths,"   The New York Times   says   at the beginning of its story, "Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo of New York announced on Sunday that he would pursue emergency regulations this week to quickly ban the sale of flavored e-cigarettes." In the sixth paragraph, the  Times   says that "health officials around the country continue to grapple with an outbreak of a severe lung disease linked to vaping that causes severe shortness of breath and days of vomiting, fever and fatigue." It notes that "at least six deaths and hundreds of hospitalizations have been reported." Several paragraphs later, the  Times   says "Mr. Cuomo's action came less than a week after the state announced a series of other measures meant to address both the surge of vaping illnesses and the expanding use of e-cigarettes."

In the 14th paragraph, the  Times   finally offers this clarification: "Though the specific substance or product causing the vaping illnesses remains unclear, the New York State Department of Health has linked many cases of the illness to   cannabis products that contain high levels of vitamin E acetate , a thickening agent for vaping liquid. Vitamin E acetate is now a key focus of the department's inquiry." (Emphasis added.) What does banning flavored e-cigarettes have to do with symptoms that seem to be caused by additives in black-market cannabis products? Absolutely nothing, but that is not the impression readers will get from this story.


Cuomo says he will continue to allow the sale of tobacco- and menthol-flavored e-cigarettes, because (as the  Times   puts it) "some data suggests that those menthol products could assist in helping people to stop smoking traditional cigarettes." The data actually indicate that e-cigarettes are   nearly twice as effective   in smoking cessation as alternatives such as nicotine gum and patches. The data also show that the flavors Cuomo plans to ban, which he portrays as part of an insidious plot to hook "children and underage youth" on nicotine, are the ones   favored   by the vast majority of adults who used to smoke and are now vaping instead.

The FDA, the agency that is now planning to ban the vast majority of nicotine vaping products, has itself acknowledged the enormous harm-reducing potential of e-cigarettes. Former FDA chief Scott Gottlieb, whose concerns about underage vaping led the agency down this road,   described   e-cigarettes as a "tremendous public health opportunity." In its haste to deter teenagers from using e-cigarettes, the government is on the verge of squandering that opportunity.

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†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
1  seeder  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh    one month ago

The war on vaping has begun and like all our wars it will be a total failure. Our War on drugs produced a black market cannabis vape market and the deaths are associated specifically to them.

So what does government want to do? Ban nicotine vape products with fruity flavors.

 
 
 
Dean Moriarty
1.1  Dean Moriarty  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @1    one month ago

Now we also have state governments attempting to regulate the potency of marijuana and concentrates. They are not taking into consideration that with 90% THC concentrates the user might only take two small hits to reach the desired high rather than smoking an entire joint to get the same affect. The concentrates could be healthier because less carcinogens are being exposed to the lungs. 

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
1.1.1  seeder  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  Dean Moriarty @1.1    one month ago

There are no deaths attributed to marijuana and government wants to regulate how high we get?

Their stupidity never ceases to amaze me.

 
 
 
It Is ME
2  It Is ME    one month ago

My wife and I wondered what these Kiddies were adding to the "store bought Vape Cartridges" now, since this seems to be a new "Issue" ….. ALL OF A SUDDEN !

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
2.1  seeder  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  It Is ME @2    one month ago

Politicians love a good prohibition. It gives them purpose.

 
 
 
It Is ME
2.1.1  It Is ME  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @2.1    one month ago
Politicians love a good prohibition. It gives them purpose.

It's all about the "Feelings" with them !

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
2.1.2  seeder  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  It Is ME @2.1.1    one month ago

The Mexican cartels are excited, they are preparing labs for Watermelon pineapple vape juice.

 
 
 
It Is ME
2.1.3  It Is ME  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @2.1.2    one month ago
The Mexican cartels are excited, they are preparing labs for Watermelon pineapple vape juice.

Coca flavored. jrSmiley_20_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
GaJenn78
3  GaJenn78    one month ago

When my sister went through breast cancer, she had to quit smoking, she put the cigs down but got a vape, a 
"fruity pebble" flavored vape. She loved it, but quit cigs and the vape all together after a week. I tried the "fuity pebble" vape when she had it, uh, yea, no wonder kids want the flavored stuff! I just learned a couple months ago that kids starting putting cannabis oil in there 

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
3.1  seeder  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  GaJenn78 @3    one month ago

Many people have quit tobacco products by vaping, They sell them in nicotine denominations of 12 mg, 9, 6, 3 etc. People start out high and wean.

Government needs to get out of the way and let people choose.

 
 
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