NBC News is reporting that Nancy Pelosi will announce , later this afternoon , that formal impeachment hearings against Donald Trump will begin in the House of Representatives.
This means it is almost certain that Trump will be impeached.
I disagree. There is no way the Republicans will ever vote for impeachment, no matter what Trump does. If the transcript of his call turns out to be bad, it won't matter to them in the slightest.
The House conducts impeachments followed by a trial in the Senate. Removal requires both impeachment by the House and conviction by the Senate. If the House impeaches Trump then McConnell will have no other options than to conduct a trial in the Senate. At that point it would only take a few republicans voting to convict Trump in the Senate to remove him. I believe that might be a lot more doable than you presume. Half the gop in the Senate secretly loaths and despises Trump. If come closer to the election it looks like Trump will sink republicans in races all across the country in 2020 the gop may do the deed. The conventional wisdom is off the table when it comes to Donald Trump...
Comical that those on progressive liberal left screaming for impeachment ignore or do not seem to realize is that impeachment does not necessarily mean removal from office. Andrew Johnson and Bill Clinton were both impeached and both stayed in office.
Is there going to be egg on faces if the transcript shows another nothing burger? Time will tell. Trump isn't totally stupid as some would like to believe. Why do you think he is waiting until tomorrow to release the transcript? He's hoping it will make them look stupid.
You may have a point but there is this.........................
" An official who has been briefed on the matter, however, told CNN that the whistleblower “didn’t have direct knowledge of the communications.” The official said that the concerns and subsequent complaint came in part from the whistleblower “learning information that was not obtained during the course of their work.”
Any knowledgeable impeachment hearings will lead to charges.
Then why did you ask? Seems they may have to go forward without the whistleblower testifying and therefore have "enough" **cough cough** to go on already..............or think they do.
No one cares. Americans have become num to the Democrats shenanigans. This will play out the same. Democrats looking like the desperate idiots they have become.
You are assuming the Senate will not vote to convict. I think you may be surprised how many republicans will vote to get rid of Trump when given the chance. Many republicans in the Senate loath Trump but they are afraid of him. Do you really think Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio won't vote to convict? They aren't the only ones. If the House impeaches Trump McConnell will have no choice but to conduct Trump's trial in the Senate. At that point all bets are off especially as republicans are more and more seeing Trump as Ballot Box Poison in 2020.
I can see Ben Sasse, Tim Scott, Susan Collins and Mitt Romney voting to convict Trump in the US Senate plus maybe Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio, Lindsey Graham and a few others also if Trump is going to go down hard. Wouldn't it be rich if Mike Pence got to cast the tie breaking vote to convict Trump thus making himself President? That would be just perfect...
Nancy gave the idiot enough rope to hang himself and he did.
As far as right wingers still supporting, [Deleted]Like it or not, your about 33%, not the majority. Same as Nixon before he resigned. Those who couldn't believe his corruption was true. Well guess what, America is pissed and you do not get to usurp separation of church and state, nor do you get to turn our democracy into a theocracy or a dictatorship. The majority will right all your wrongs!
Never claimed to be the majority. Why would I want to be another sheep?
America is pissed and you do not get to usurp separation of church and state, nor do you get to turn our democracy into a theocracy or a dictatorship. The majority will right all your wrongs!
Please climb down from your little soapbox before you fall off. I don't want a theocracy or a dictatorship. WTF are you chattering on about?
What counts is that we have not become "numb" to the shenanigans that the R's are pulling. It is time to drain the swamp and no matter which party it is, the inhabitants need to be given their walking papers.
No one in Washington understands the game better than Pelosi
I believe you are correct in her assessment, however she fails to understand that there is a time to stop playing the game and start doing the job.
Democrats have let Trump stooges ignore subpoenas and claim executive privilege at times that it is clearly illegal to do so. Just the refusal to turn over Trump's taxes to the House Ways and Means committee should have put at least 2 Trump cronies in jail, but the Dems let them get away with it.
Whoop Whoop! News Flash - US House of Representatives to proceed with formal impeachment inquiry. Will Donald Trump be the first US President to be removed from office? More and more that seems to be more and more likely. Stay Tuned...
More and more that seems to be more and more likely.
Sure, now they have the whistleblower whose account is only hearsay. Not like they have had 20 investigators, two years, and $40 million to get it done.
Why didn't the whistle blower turn them over? It's already proven the Democrats can't keep a damn thing secret. If he actually had something it would have been leaked already
Why didn't the whistle blower turn them over? It's already proven the Democrats can't keep a damn thing secret. If he actually had something it would have been leaked already
Because that's not what the law says to do. Again, why did trump and his crooked DOJ sit on this stuff and not give it to congress when they got it, like the law says they are supposed to do?
So you wanted them to keep it a secret that trump broke the law?
They've already done that. As I already stated, reports are that Schiff had this since early August. Why did he hold on to it? If this were really as damning as Democrats want us to believe this trainwreck should have happened then.
So right from the horse's mouth is, "no evidence"?
If this were as damning as Democrats want us to believe, something would have been done in early August. But since it's now the end of September....this equates to about as much evidence as Mueller found - not a damn thing.
Seems many don't fully grasp that Pelosi's "announcement" means nothing. It's a typical Democrat lip service and you all got sucked right in.
If this were as damning as Democrats want us to believe, something would have been done in early August. But since it's now the end of September....this equates to about as much evidence as Mueller found - not a damn thing.
So you admit the WH sat on the report for 2 months. Thanks for admitting that, it proves my point.
The right wing couldn't impeach Clinton fast enough for lying about a fucking blowjob. But trump wants to use a BILLION US taxpayer dollars to force a foreign country to dig up dirt on a political opponent and those same people not only don't care, but actually try to defend it?
It's ILLEGAL to use taxpayer dollars to fund a campaign, and that's EXACTLY what trump was trying to do. Impeach that dumb POS.
Trump should be welcoming the impeachment hearings, I mean, he did say he is the, "law and order" president and the, "most transparent president in history".. Right?
I see the impeachment party has begun once again BEFORE any facts are presented. (I'm not sure that this isn't a continuation of the original party that began in 2016.) One would think that they would tire of this...but it's obvious that they will forge ahead expecting different results.
This inquiry better result in far more than 'we don't like Trump' or the people will show their disdain for the impeachment happy crew with their votes.
The bigger question, if Trump is so terribly guilty, why are they gladly releasing the unredacted transcripts of the phone call? I'm thinking there's far more to this than what the glee club is willing to see...and they may find that they must investigate more than what they bargained for.
Actually....Pelosi launches formal Trump impeachment inquiry, with NO VOTE (Chickens) from the House !
inquiry [ˈinkwərē, inˈkwī(ə)rē]
NOUN 1. an act of asking for information.
The "Media" Title (Nancy Pelosi Set To Announce, This Afternoon, Impeachment Hearings For Trump) …. as always when it comes to Trump.....is Misleading!
Is Trump "Testifying" in front of any committee that's holding the "Formal Hearings" (Meaning actual impeachment has started) ?
Sooooo ….. this "Formal" thingy as spoken by Pelosi.....is still just the same Ol' crap the Democrats have been doing since Trump was elected.
Had a realization today. Watching the Democrats and left go after the President is kind of like watching the Roadrunner cartoon. The Democrats and left filling the roll of Wile E. Coyote doing everything he can to get the Roadrunner (the President) and failing miserably EVERY SINGLE TIME.
Drain The Swamp !
Its official !
MAGA - My Ass Got Arrested. Melania could also wear it. He is her ass after all.
The Gang Of Five
Don't count those chickens just yet.
Pelosi caved and the Dems will lose yet again....big time.
Um, Greg? That's an opinion piece, not a fact based piece.
This means it is almost certain that Trump will be impeached. The committees are already writing up the charges.
I disagree. There is no way the Republicans will ever vote for impeachment, no matter what Trump does. If the transcript of his call turns out to be bad, it won't matter to them in the slightest.
Impeached is not removal. Impeachment is entirely decided by the House. Removal is in the Senate.
Dems aren't the most pragmatic in most cases. It's feelings over intellect disguised as the latter.
Awe yes, Trump is colluding with the Ukrainians instead of the Russians.
You know the sequels are always worse.
Ole Billy Boy had a nice private conversation with Obama's DOJ investigating his wife.
Uh, wonder why we didn't need due diligence then?
The House conducts impeachments followed by a trial in the Senate. Removal requires both impeachment by the House and conviction by the Senate. If the House impeaches Trump then McConnell will have no other options than to conduct a trial in the Senate. At that point it would only take a few republicans voting to convict Trump in the Senate to remove him. I believe that might be a lot more doable than you presume. Half the gop in the Senate secretly loaths and despises Trump. If come closer to the election it looks like Trump will sink republicans in races all across the country in 2020 the gop may do the deed. The conventional wisdom is off the table when it comes to Donald Trump...
If they think their own future elections will be in peril for not purging this country of the head parasite, watch how fast they will turn.
Yea, he was trying to influence AMERICANS... Outgoing presidents ALWAYS campaign for their party's nominee, it's nothing new Wally.
Comical that those on progressive liberal left screaming for impeachment ignore or do not seem to realize is that impeachment does not necessarily mean removal from office. Andrew Johnson and Bill Clinton were both impeached and both stayed in office.
Actually, this helps Russia, a LOT. Pay attention.
Is there going to be egg on faces if the transcript shows another nothing burger? Time will tell. Trump isn't totally stupid as some would like to believe. Why do you think he is waiting until tomorrow to release the transcript? He's hoping it will make them look stupid.
If the whistleblower testifies to Congress and there is nothing there, you might have a slight point.
No one is going to take Trump's or Trump's lackeys word for anything.
You may have a point but there is this.........................
" An official who has been briefed on the matter, however, told CNN that the whistleblower “didn’t have direct knowledge of the communications.” The official said that the concerns and subsequent complaint came in part from the whistleblower “learning information that was not obtained during the course of their work.”
I'm not worried about it. Any knowledgeable impeachment hearings will lead to charges.
Then why did you ask? Seems they may have to go forward without the whistleblower testifying and therefore have "enough" **cough cough** to go on already..............or think they do.
Bring it on. It will lead to the destruction of the radical left Democrats
EXCEPT....
The inspector general investigated the complaint and deemed it credible , forwarding it to the acting director as required, according to a letter from the inspector general released by House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff.
If it was a nothing burger, it would never have made it past the inspector general.
Then of course there is the small fact that the Trump administration is violating the law blocking the House's access to the report.
The acting director of national intelligence under Trump, Joseph Maguire, is not allowing the whistleblower’s report to be shared with Congress, even though the IG found it to be credible and of urgent concern.
If Trump said that the sky was blue I'd have to go outside and look before I believed him.
No one gets a second chance to lie to me in the real world, business or personal.
Liars can't be trusted and I won't have one anywhere near me no matter positive traits.
Seems that Trump supporters are at 12,000 lies and counting and just don't care.
Seems that anybody to the left of Attila the Hun is a democrat in your eyes.
Please define a "radical left democrat." Not sure I've ever met one.
This free thinker is so glad not to live in your world.
No one cares. Americans have become num to the Democrats shenanigans. This will play out the same. Democrats looking like the desperate idiots they have become.
Trumpsters are going to run and hide from the truth. That is a given.
Yeah, they are going to run to the polls and take the sane Americans with them.
This is due to the pressure on Biden, nothing more.
Y'all hide from the truth daily.
I am so glad Nancy finally grew a set.
Now in just a few months (if they don't chicken out), we can finally and forever put this impeachment nonsense behind us.
I think she is just placating a few of the rabble-rousers like the Freshman Four.
Giving them a crumb, so to speak, before the Senate acquits.
You are assuming the Senate will not vote to convict. I think you may be surprised how many republicans will vote to get rid of Trump when given the chance. Many republicans in the Senate loath Trump but they are afraid of him. Do you really think Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio won't vote to convict? They aren't the only ones. If the House impeaches Trump McConnell will have no choice but to conduct Trump's trial in the Senate. At that point all bets are off especially as republicans are more and more seeing Trump as Ballot Box Poison in 2020.
I guess we'll both just have to wait and see, right?
Care to make any wagers on the Senate convicting Trump?
So it doesn't matter what Trump has actually done, it's can he get away with it
AGAIN!
That s the Wrong Way to look at this. This our Country we are talking about.
We are all allegedly AMERICANS, and supposed to be on the same Team.
Trump has divided US.
I believe even more than Hillary would of,
Lets see the evidence, and then we can All decide.
Cause i do not enjoy being lied to, and lets face it, he is a Proven Liar .
I can see Ben Sasse, Tim Scott, Susan Collins and Mitt Romney voting to convict Trump in the US Senate plus maybe Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio, Lindsey Graham and a few others also if Trump is going to go down hard. Wouldn't it be rich if Mike Pence got to cast the tie breaking vote to convict Trump thus making himself President? That would be just perfect...
Oh, sorry, I forgot my "I Hate Trump" bus-boarding pass.
Nancy gave the idiot enough rope to hang himself and he did.
As far as right wingers still supporting, [Deleted] Like it or not, your about 33%, not the majority. Same as Nixon before he resigned. Those who couldn't believe his corruption was true. Well guess what, America is pissed and you do not get to usurp separation of church and state, nor do you get to turn our democracy into a theocracy or a dictatorship. The majority will right all your wrongs!
lol...the idiot has been playing the Democrats since his election.
I thought Mueller was going to send him to prison.
Perhaps Madcow can rehash the tax return debacle....lol.
Head in sand, as always!
Never claimed to be the majority. Why would I want to be another sheep?
Please climb down from your little soapbox before you fall off. I don't want a theocracy or a dictatorship. WTF are you chattering on about?
My offer of a wager still stands, if you have the stones.
I accept your deletion, but I am pissed at the idiots. You know this.
If anyone still supports TRUMP, they are either rich, racist, or, as dumb as COW DUNG!
What counts is that we have not become "numb" to the shenanigans that the R's are pulling. It is time to drain the swamp and no matter which party it is, the inhabitants need to be given their walking papers.
Nancy must think there's something there is she's going ahead with this. For the last year or so she's been saying...."no impeachment."
Either that or she's just damned tired of the House Chihuahuas nipping at her ankles. I choose the latter.
When you say stuff like that I'm certain you really aren't looking for reasonable discussion.
Of course I am. What have the House Dems been doing for the last year except pushing her?
I think it's a little of both.
I believe you are correct in her assessment, however she fails to understand that there is a time to stop playing the game and start doing the job.
Democrats have let Trump stooges ignore subpoenas and claim executive privilege at times that it is clearly illegal to do so. Just the refusal to turn over Trump's taxes to the House Ways and Means committee should have put at least 2 Trump cronies in jail, but the Dems let them get away with it.
It's called, let him hang himself and he has.
that's one person's opinion
Whoop Whoop! News Flash - US House of Representatives to proceed with formal impeachment inquiry. Will Donald Trump be the first US President to be removed from office? More and more that seems to be more and more likely. Stay Tuned...
Sure, now they have the whistleblower whose account is only hearsay. Not like they have had 20 investigators, two years, and $40 million to get it done.
Even Fox News and The Wall Street Journal have turned on Trump...
Yeah, but you totally ignore Bengazi, its cost that found no wrong doing, period. Why is that?
And it's all based off absolutely no evidence.
Wonder where we heard this before?
If there was nothing going on, why didn't trump hand over the call logs and the whistleblower report, as is required by law?
Why didn't the whistle blower turn them over? It's already proven the Democrats can't keep a damn thing secret. If he actually had something it would have been leaked already
Why did it come out when it was reported, as the law says? Why wait?
Because that's not what the law says to do. Again, why did trump and his crooked DOJ sit on this stuff and not give it to congress when they got it, like the law says they are supposed to do?
So you wanted them to keep it a secret that trump broke the law? Really? LOL
According to my morning am news, the whistle blower wants to testify. His lawyer(s) are working on the details.
Good point. It's being reported Schiff had it as early as the beginning of August. Sounds shady (like most everything else the Democrats have done).
They've already done that. As I already stated, reports are that Schiff had this since early August. Why did he hold on to it? If this were really as damning as Democrats want us to believe this trainwreck should have happened then.
Why? Because your false prophet says he is?
The whistleblower has to follow a chain of command.
Still doesn't answer the question.
Washington Post? A rag that has been the mouthpiece of the left since November 2016. Couldn't find a respectable source could you?
So you know who they are? Do tell...
I'll remind you that trump admitted he talked about Biden during the call. So right from the horse's mouth is, "no evidence"?
If this were as damning as Democrats want us to believe, something would have been done in early August. But since it's now the end of September....this equates to about as much evidence as Mueller found - not a damn thing.
Seems many don't fully grasp that Pelosi's "announcement" means nothing. It's a typical Democrat lip service and you all got sucked right in.
So you admit the WH sat on the report for 2 months. Thanks for admitting that, it proves my point.
Is that what I said? Nope. Care to try again?
Does Benghazi sound familiar?
The right wing couldn't impeach Clinton fast enough for lying about a fucking blowjob. But trump wants to use a BILLION US taxpayer dollars to force a foreign country to dig up dirt on a political opponent and those same people not only don't care, but actually try to defend it?
It's ILLEGAL to use taxpayer dollars to fund a campaign, and that's EXACTLY what trump was trying to do. Impeach that dumb POS.
Trump should be welcoming the impeachment hearings, I mean, he did say he is the, "law and order" president and the, "most transparent president in history".. Right?
I see the impeachment party has begun once again BEFORE any facts are presented. (I'm not sure that this isn't a continuation of the original party that began in 2016.) One would think that they would tire of this...but it's obvious that they will forge ahead expecting different results.
This inquiry better result in far more than 'we don't like Trump' or the people will show their disdain for the impeachment happy crew with their votes.
The bigger question, if Trump is so terribly guilty, why are they gladly releasing the unredacted transcripts of the phone call? I'm thinking there's far more to this than what the glee club is willing to see...and they may find that they must investigate more than what they bargained for.
Actually....Pelosi launches formal Trump impeachment inquiry, with NO VOTE (Chickens) from the House !
inquiry
[ˈinkwərē, inˈkwī(ə)rē]
NOUN
1. an act of asking for information.
The "Media" Title (Nancy Pelosi Set To Announce, This Afternoon, Impeachment Hearings For Trump) …. as always when it comes to Trump.....is Misleading !
Is Trump "Testifying" in front of any committee that's holding the "Formal Hearings" (Meaning actual impeachment has started) ?
Sooooo ….. this "Formal" thingy as spoken by Pelosi.....is still just the same Ol' crap the Democrats have been doing since Trump was elected.
Had a realization today. Watching the Democrats and left go after the President is kind of like watching the Roadrunner cartoon. The Democrats and left filling the roll of Wile E. Coyote doing everything he can to get the Roadrunner (the President) and failing miserably EVERY SINGLE TIME.
It's rather entertaining.