Home Depot co-founder will give 90% of his reported $4.5 billion fortune to charity

  
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Home Depot co-founder will give 90% of his reported $4.5 billion fortune to charity
“To make quarterly profits is one thing, but changing just one life is so much better,” Marcus said when he joined.

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Home Depot co-founder Bernie Marcus will donate most of his fortune to charity after his death.


More doing, and more donating — that’s the power of this Home Depot co-founder.

Atlanta billionaire Bernie Marcus is worth an estimated $4.53 billion, according to Bloomberg, or $5.8 billion by Forbes’ estimate. And he tells the Atlanta Journal-Constitution in a new interview that he plans to give 80% to 90% of that wealth to charity when he dies.

Marcus, 90, said that he has given more than $2 billion to 300-plus organizations across the globe in his lifetime.

The Home Depot co-founder and his wife, Billi, joined the Giving Pledge launched by Microsoft  MSFT  founder Bill Gates, Melinda Gates and Warren Buffett in 2010, a commitment by the world’s wealthiest people to donate at least half of their fortunes.

“To make quarterly profits is one thing, but changing just one life is so much better,” Marcus said when he joined.

Related: What is "The Giving Pledge"?

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Krishna
1  seeder  Krishna    4 weeks ago

Marcus, 90, said that he has given more than $2 billion to 300-plus organizations across the globe in his lifetime. The Home Depot HD, +0.22% co-founder and his wife,

Billi, joined the Giving Pledge launched by Microsoft MSFT, +0.25% founder Bill Gates, Melinda Gates and Warren Buffett in 2010, a commitment by the world’s wealthiest people to donate at least half of their fortunes. “To make quarterly profits is one thing, but changing just one life is so much better,” Marcus said when he joined.

 
 
 
Krishna
2  seeder  Krishna    4 weeks ago

The Home Depot co-founder and his wife, Billi, joined the Giving Pledge launched by Microsoft  MSFT  founder Bill Gates, Melinda Gates and Warren Buffett in 2010, a commitment by the world’s wealthiest people to donate at least half of their fortunes.

 
 
 
Dean Moriarty
3  Dean Moriarty    4 weeks ago

It's what the wealthy do to avoid the government taking it in death taxes. 

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
3.1  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  Dean Moriarty @3    4 weeks ago

I'm shocked he's giving his wealth away, I thought all capitalists were evil?

 
 
 
It Is ME
3.1.1  It Is ME  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @3.1    4 weeks ago

Just imagine what Bernie and Pocahontas could do with that money if they were elected. jrSmiley_46_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Krishna
3.2  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Dean Moriarty @3    4 weeks ago
It's what the wealthy do to avoid the government taking it in death taxes. 

Well, they shouldn't be allowed to get away with that!

We need to change the laws-- ASAP!

Then all that money could go to the government, which I'm sure we all can agree would put it to better use than those charities!!! 

 
 
 
Krishna
3.2.1  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Krishna @3.2    4 weeks ago

Whoops-- sorry!

I "inadvertently" forgot to indicate that that last comment was sarcasm!

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
3.2.2  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Krishna @3.2.1    4 weeks ago
that last comment was sarcasm!

Sadly, Deans not wrong. Most charities are used as vehicles to create tax breaks but the money that goes into these foundations and charities created rarely actually trickles down to people in need. The wealthy get an immediate benefit of sheltering them from paying taxes where the money goes into a foundation they often control through surrogates that then spend most of the money on lobbying for causes that directly or indirectly benefit the donors. And that's in lieu of that money going for many of the things we really do need like public school funding which then pushes more of that burden on to those who can least afford it. I'm all for billionaires giving to charity if that money actually helps those stuck in cycles of poverty, but sadly, that is a rarity among charities.

 
 
 
XDm9mm
3.2.3  XDm9mm  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @3.2.2    4 weeks ago
Sadly, Deans not wrong.

What's sad about it?   The charitable foundation I have, while it does provide me some tax advantage, allows me to DIRECTLY help people and causes and not see MY money extorted and wasted by the government abyss.

Most charities are used as vehicles to create tax breaks but the money that goes into these foundations and charities created rarely actually trickles down to people in need.

Maybe you missed this part:

And he tells the Atlanta Journal-Constitution in a new interview that he plans to give 80% to 90% of that wealth to charity when he dies.

I'll submit that, especially today, those in the stratosphere of wealth that people like the Gates, Buffets, and Marcus's belong to will invariably all do the same thing.  Of course, they'll ensure that their progeny are well taken care of and will never have a monetary concern themselves, unless of course the government decides to seize yet more of the peoples money to squander.

 
 
 
gooseisgone
3.2.4  gooseisgone  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @3.2.2    4 weeks ago
Most charities are used as vehicles to create tax breaks but the money that goes into these foundations and charities created rarely actually trickles down to people in need.

I think you are confused......... we are not talking about the Clinton Foundation.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
3.2.5  Jack_TX  replied to  XDm9mm @3.2.3    4 weeks ago
What's sad about it?   The charitable foundation I have, while it does provide me some tax advantage, allows me to DIRECTLY help people and causes and not see MY money extorted and wasted by the government abyss.

You answered your own question.  The sad part is "your money not being seized by the US Govt".

 
 
 
XDm9mm
3.2.6  XDm9mm  replied to  Jack_TX @3.2.5    4 weeks ago
The sad part is "your money not being seized by the US Govt".

Well, that's the way some people feel.

I have the ability to use 100 cents of every dollar I provide others as opposed to the government taking that 100 cents and getting 1 or 2 cents to those in need, the remainder going to the bureaucracy.

 
 
 
Nerm_L
4  Nerm_L    4 weeks ago

Typical.  Marcus could have spread the wealth through wages or profit sharing.  But, no, workers are freeloading scum that are supposed to be kept in their places.

Marcus could be a poster child for Reagan's stupidity.  Capitalism is deader then dead.  That's why people like Marcus should be taxed at 200 pct.  Lying, cheating pirates certainly do not deserve any credit for phony philanthropy.  

 
 
 
Krishna
4.1  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Nerm_L @4    4 weeks ago
Lying, cheating pirates certainly do not deserve any credit for phony philanthropy.

Which of the charities that he contributed to-- specifically-- do you object to?

 
 
 
Nerm_L
4.1.1  Nerm_L  replied to  Krishna @4.1    4 weeks ago
Which of the charities that he contributed to-- specifically-- do you object to?

The typical 'think of the poor children' argument.  Bernie Marcus didn't give a damn about the 'poor children' while he was accumulating his pile.  Otherwise, Marcus wouldn't have so much.

This is about Marcus trying to buy absolution for his sins.  The specific charities don't matter; they'll all hypocritically line up to kiss Marcus' backside for a share.

Greed is not good; Bernie Marcus is not good.  No amount of philanthropy will change that.

 
 
 
Krishna
4.1.2  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Nerm_L @4.1.1    4 weeks ago

Bernie Marcus didn't give a damn about the 'poor children' while he was accumulating his pile.  Otherwise, Marcus wouldn't have so much.

If I understand you correctly, you are saying that if someone has made a large sum of money, that's positive proof that they don't care about poor children?

Which implies that you beieve that it is impossible to do both of these two things: to earn a ton of money and at the same time genu9inely help poor children?

 
 
 
Krishna
4.1.3  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Nerm_L @4.1.1    4 weeks ago
The typical 'think of the poor children' argument.  Bernie Marcus didn't give a damn about the 'poor children' while he was accumulating his pile.  Otherwise, Marcus wouldn't have so much. This is about Marcus trying to buy absolution for his sins.  The specific charities don't matter; they'll all hypocritically line up to kiss Marcus' backside for a share.

Have you heard of Warren Buffett?

Warren Edward Buffett born August 30, 1930) is an American business magnate, investor, and philanthropist who serves as the chairman and CEO of Berkshire Hathaway.

He is considered one of the most successful investors in the world[3][4] and has a net worth of US$82 billion as of July 18, 2019, making him the third-wealthiest person in the world.

Aside from drinking beverages in Margaritaville-- what else has he done?

 
 
 
Kavika
4.1.4  Kavika   replied to  Nerm_L @4.1.1    4 weeks ago

It would behove you to actually investigate Bernie Marcus history of philanthropy over the years.

https://www.bridgespan.org/insights/library/remarkable-givers/profiles/bernie-marcus

 
 
 
Krishna
4.1.5  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Kavika @4.1.4    4 weeks ago

It would behove you to actually investigate Bernie Marcus history of philanthropy over the years.

https://www.bridgespan.org/insights/library/remarkable-givers/profiles/bernie-marcus

Shhhhh!

He's already made up his mind-- don't confuse him with the facts!

 
 
 
Jack_TX
4.1.6  Jack_TX  replied to  Kavika @4.1.4    4 weeks ago

People don't use the word "behoove" enough anymore.

 
 
 
pat wilson
4.1.7  pat wilson  replied to  Jack_TX @4.1.6    4 weeks ago

I do. what's wrong with "behoove" ? Excellent word.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
4.1.8  Jack_TX  replied to  pat wilson @4.1.7    4 weeks ago

Nothing.  I just said people don't use it enough.

 
 
 
pat wilson
4.1.9  pat wilson  replied to  Jack_TX @4.1.8    4 weeks ago

The first time I read your post I missed "enough" for some reason.

 
 
 
pat wilson
4.1.10  pat wilson  replied to  pat wilson @4.1.9    4 weeks ago

It behooves me to read a bit slower.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
4.1.11  Jack_TX  replied to  pat wilson @4.1.10    4 weeks ago
It behooves me to read a bit slower.

Well played.  jrSmiley_86_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Kavika
4.1.12  Kavika   replied to  Jack_TX @4.1.11    4 weeks ago

Behove or behoove it's one of my favorite words. 

 
 
 
dave-2693993
4.1.13  dave-2693993  replied to  pat wilson @4.1.7    4 weeks ago

Well, I wonder what happened to the word persnickety? 

"I behoove that persnickety individual to wake up and smell the coffee". 

 
 
 
Krishna
4.1.14  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Jack_TX @4.1.6    4 weeks ago
People don't use the word "behoove" enough anymore.

Generally they only use it when it behooves them to do so (but sometimes not even then!)

 
 
 
Krishna
4.1.15  seeder  Krishna  replied to  dave-2693993 @4.1.13    4 weeks ago
Well, I wonder what happened to the word persnickety? 

Things being what they are, many people, in today's perilous times in which we live, are often too lugubrious to use such a word (even when it behooves them to do so).

Or...maybe they're just too downright persnickety!

 
 
 
Krishna
4.1.16  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Nerm_L @4.1.1    4 weeks ago

 Bernie Marcus didn't give a damn about the ' poor children ' while he was accumulating his pile.  Otherwise, Marcus wouldn't have so much.

This is about Marcus trying to buy absolution for his sins.  The specific charities don't matter; they'll all hypocritically line up to kiss Marcus' backside for a share.

Greed is not good; Bernie Marcus is not good.  No amount of philanthropy will change that.

There's an old saying:

Its better to keep one's mouth shut and be thought an idiot, than to open it and remove all doubt! 

Here's a little about this guy:

For Bernie Marcus, Philanthropy Brings Life’s Greatest Payoffs

Marcus's slide into philanthropy began while he was still building The Home Depot into the world's largest home-improvement retailer. When a young employee shared that he was dying of cancer, Marcus connected him to City of Hope, a cancer treatment center that ultimately saved the employee's life.

  "That impact was so important in my life,"  says Marcus. "I went to [City of Hope] and said ‘I want to join your board.' I had never done anything with philanthropy before…and I didn't have any money, but I worked diligently on that board."

 
 
 
Krishna
4.1.17  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Nerm_L @4.1.1    4 weeks ago
This is about Marcus trying to buy absolution for his sins.  The specific charities don't matter; they'll all hypocritically line up to kiss Marcus' backside for a share. Greed is not good; Bernie Marcus is not good.  No amount of philanthropy will change that.

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Here's a bit more about Marcus:

Marcus's early habit of helping to meet the needs of the people around him by giving his time and managerial talent has become a strong theme in his philanthropy. Similarly, but with global consequences,  Marcus observed the anguish of another employee , a young mother of an autistic child.

To learn more about the disability, he toured the country's top medical centers and met countless families undergoing the same hardship. "Honestly, I didn't sleep for nights," says Marcus.

"And I said, ‘Goddamn it, I'm going to do something about this.' And that's how we came about starting the Marcus Autism Center (MAC)—because of a need that I saw."  Starting with two trailers in Atlanta , Marcus began to gather the best minds in medicine and other philanthropists to understand and treat the disorder.

 
 
 
Krishna
4.1.18  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Nerm_L @4.1.1    4 weeks ago

More stupidity from Nerm L:

Bernie Marcus didn't give a damn about the ' poor children ' while he was accumulating his pile.  Otherwise, Marcus wouldn't have so much.

This is about Marcus trying to buy absolution for his sins.  The specific charities don't matter; they'll all hypocritically line up to kiss Marcus' backside for a share.

In addition to supporting the people in his life, Marcus has also worked to give back to his local community.We decided that we wanted to do something for the State of Georgia.

We remembered the people that came and saved our lives," shares Marcus.

A centerpiece of Bernie and Billi Marcus' efforts to give back to the community is the   Georgia Aquarium in Atlanta , which has drawn billions of additional investment to help revitalize a blighted area of the city.

But throughout his philanthropy, whether he is supporting the people and places around him or his religious and cultural communities, Marcus's motivation remains the same: "It's really to save people's lives," he says.   "That's the payoff. It's an emotional payoff that I can't explain to people."

 
 
 
Krishna
4.1.19  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Nerm_L @4.1.1    4 weeks ago

More words of wisdom from Nerm L:

The typical ' think of the poor children ' argument.  Bernie Marcus didn't give a damn about the ' poor children ' while he was accumulating his pile.  Otherwise, Marcus wouldn't have so much.

This is about Marcus trying to buy absolution for his sins.  The specific charities don't matter; they'll all hypocritically line up to kiss Marcus' backside for a share.

Greed is not good; Bernie Marcus is not good.  No amount of philanthropy will change that.

Related video shows just how cruel Bernie Marcus is:

Autism Speaks: How Bernie Marcus’s persistence built an international voice for autism

 
 
 
Krishna
4.1.20  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Nerm_L @4.1.1    4 weeks ago

Nerm L said:

Greed is not good; Bernie Marcus is not good.  No amount of philanthropy will change that.

WTF is wrong with this dude? (Here's a video...):


Bernie Marcus explains why he gives while he lives

 
 
 
Nerm_L
4.1.21  Nerm_L  replied to  Krishna @4.1.16    4 weeks ago
Its better to keep one's mouth shut and be thought an idiot, than to open it and remove all doubt! 

Bernie Marcus has been a strident anti-labor conservative.  Marcus' philanthropy has included large political donations to anti-labor politicians, as well.

Marcus doesn't value labor.  That's one of the underlying ideas of the 'greed is good' philosophy.  The Koch brothers were philanthropists, too.  So was Andrew Carnegie.  But that doesn't make greed good.

 
 
 
dave-2693993
4.1.22  dave-2693993  replied to  Krishna @4.1.15    3 weeks ago
Or...maybe they're just too downright persnickety!

I think it is the persnickety ones making the others feel lugubrious.

This behooves me to point them in ways to augur well.

 

 
 
 
Jack_TX
4.1.23  Jack_TX  replied to  dave-2693993 @4.1.22    3 weeks ago
I think it is the persnickety ones making the others feel lugubrious. This behooves me to point them in ways to augur well.

This is why we can't have nice things, Dave.

Somebody aaaaallllwaaays takes things too far. 

jrSmiley_86_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
dave-2693993
4.1.24  dave-2693993  replied to  Jack_TX @4.1.23    3 weeks ago
This is why we can't have nice things, Dave. Somebody aaaaallllwaaays takes things too far.

LOL. Okay, okay...and I had another in the chamber ready to go.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
4.1.25  Jack_TX  replied to  dave-2693993 @4.1.24    3 weeks ago
. and I had another in the chamber ready to go.

jrSmiley_86_smiley_image.gif

I never doubted it.....

 
 
 
XDm9mm
4.2  XDm9mm  replied to  Nerm_L @4    4 weeks ago
Capitalism is deader then dead.

Damn, you could have fooled me.  I'm doing great.  

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
4.2.1  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  XDm9mm @4.2    4 weeks ago

I think he is saying it's immoral. I don't think it's immoral, but I do think that there are some companies that don't share the wealth to those that are helping them become billionaires and that is not right. Especially given that the Home Depot put out of business a lot of mom and pop stores and I think with companies like Amazon there will be even more of that.

 
 
 
XDm9mm
4.2.2  XDm9mm  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @4.2.1    4 weeks ago
I don't think it's immoral, but I do think that there are some companies that don't share the wealth to those that are helping them become billionaires and that is not right.

Part of the problem with that line of thought is that implies that those people got direct cash payments.  Obviously, that's not the case.   What people like Marcus, Gates and others have as it relates to "wealth" is paper profits from stock price increases.  Of course, that's all predicated on the whims of the market and what makes them giddy or skittish.

Especially given that the Home Depot put out of business a lot of mom and pop stores and I think with companies like Amazon there will be even more of that.

The same can be said of Lowes, WalMart, and essentially any and all big box retailers.  Now, those big box retailers are looking over their shoulders at operations like Amazon.

That's a far cry from capitalism is dead or immoral.

If you want immoral, look at the socialist and communist countries.   Hell, even at the purported 'democratic socialist' countries.   Do you honestly believe any of those countries have what we enjoy?

Here's a little something I just located for perspective.  (Ok...   most Americans are materialistic.)

The figures are in square-meters of usable floor space, and include data for both houses and flats. (please click on graph if it is not all visible)

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In the countries I could get data for the average new home varied in size from 45 m 2  (484 ft 2 ) in Hong Kong up to 214 m 2  (2,303 ft 2 ) in Australia.

US home size has fallen a little since the recession, to 201 m 2  (2,164 ft 2 ) in 2009.  UK house size is relatively small at  76 m 2  (818 ft 2 ) while Canadian houses are quite big at 181 m 2  (1,948 ft 2 ).  For China the data only reflects urban properties, which now average 60 m 2  (646 ft 2 ) and have almost doubled in size in the last 15 years.

There are all sorts of reasons for these differences.  Wealth levels, urbanization rates, land access and climate all play a part.  Nonetheless the scale of the differences is pretty fascinating.

Source:  https://reneweconomy.com.au/how-big-is-a-house-average-house-size-by-country-78685/

Other elements of our life in comparison can also be investigated if you will.  We're always compared with the Canadian health care system.  I can attest to the fallacy of that comparison.   When I had my first hip replacement surgery, of the twelve other people I was in immediate post surgery rehab with, seven were Canadians.  Four had hip replacement, three had knee replacement (one of whom was REALLY brave and had BOTH knees done!!!) and the shortest wait before giving up on the Canadian system was four months.   I waited for one month and that was due to presurgery medical processing including tests and such.  Had it not been for that, I could have scheduled it the week after I decided to go ahead with it.

I'll 'suffer' our immoral capitalist system over anything existing existing anywhere else in the world. 

 
 
 
MUVA
4.2.3  MUVA  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @4.2.1    4 weeks ago

Mom and pop stores put themselves out of business in a lot of cases by not changing with the times.The store/shop my wife and I run has been in business since 1929 we had a marine store and were one of the biggest sellers of OMC parts in the country we had to downsize and removed the cost of buying warehousing large amounts of inventory.

 
 
 
Krishna
4.2.4  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @4.2.1    4 weeks ago
I do think that there are some companies that don't share the wealth to those that are helping them become billionaires and that is not right.

What would you suggest we do to solve this problem?

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
4.2.5  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  XDm9mm @4.2.2    4 weeks ago

First of all, I think you misunderstand me. I am not anti-capitalism. I am quite a capitalist. But I do think that there are many companies who share more of their wealth with their employees because they understand that it is good for business. 

As for house size, there are many reason's other than form of economics for size. England is a small country with London being a very cramped city that a lot of people want to live in. They spend a ton more per square foot than we do. Land is a commodity. 

Healthcare falls into a whole different category for me. Just like education, there is no perfect system, but i know people shouldn't be dying here to get insulin and they are. So while people in Canada have to wait for a non-emergency procedure, people here are dying for lack of a drug that really should cost dollars a month not thousands.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
4.2.6  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  MUVA @4.2.3    4 weeks ago

I am glad you found a way to survive, but there are no home depots for Marine goods. How does a mom and pop hardware store compete with the Home Depot? Simple answer.. it can't. Only in areas far away from one can they still exist. 

 
 
 
Krishna
4.2.7  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @4.2.1    4 weeks ago
Especially given that the Home Depot put out of business a lot of mom and pop stores

Yup-- they're definitely evil. (See Nerm L's astute comments).

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
4.2.8  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Krishna @4.2.7    3 weeks ago

Well, not that evil. 

 
 
 
Krishna
4.2.9  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Krishna @4.2.4    3 weeks ago
I do think that there are some companies that don't share the wealth to those that are helping them become billionaires and that is not right.
What would you suggest we do to solve this problem?

I notice you haven't answered that yet....

Here's a quote that might be quite relevant:

Leon Cooperman dropped this quote at the @DeliveringAlpha conference last week and it’s been stuck in my head all week: “The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings; the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries.” -Winston Churchill — Jenny VL Harrington (@GilmanHill) September 26, 2019
 
 
 
MUVA
4.2.10  MUVA  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @4.2.6    3 weeks ago

There is west marine and there was boat us and boaters world you have to be able to adapt in business or you remain stagnant.

 
 
 
MUVA
4.2.11  MUVA  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @4.2.6    3 weeks ago

Look at Taylor do it centers they have survived the big box take over I know a lot about small businesses having worked at one for 30 years.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
4.3  Jack_TX  replied to  Nerm_L @4    4 weeks ago
Marcus could have spread the wealth through wages or profit sharing.

They already have profit sharing.

 
 
 
Krishna
4.3.1  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Jack_TX @4.3    4 weeks ago
Marcus could have spread the wealth through wages or profit sharing.
They already have profit sharing.

Shhhhh!

He's already made up his mind-- don't confuse him with the facts!

 
 
 
bbl-1
5  bbl-1    4 weeks ago

Has Mr. Marcus named the charities?

 
 
 
Krishna
5.1  seeder  Krishna  replied to  bbl-1 @5    4 weeks ago
Has Mr. Marcus named the charities?

It might behoove you to look at the information at the link posted by Kavika in comment 4.1.4. (Although granted its usually not considered politically correct to click on links that people post in discussions on social media sites such as NT-- leading some folks to never post links as the reading thereof is really not behoovable for many people!!!))

 
 
 
Krishna
5.1.1  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Krishna @5.1    4 weeks ago

Or-- check out some of Bernie Marcus' behoovable videos!

Bernie Marcus's Videos

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
6  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh    3 weeks ago

Does anyone find it odd that they sell vibrators on the homedepot website ?

 
 
 
MUVA
6.1  MUVA  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @6    3 weeks ago

I never thought about it’s just another tool to put in the box.

 
 
 
Krishna
6.2  seeder  Krishna  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @6    3 weeks ago

Amazon sells a lot of cool stuff as well.

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