Trump Just Threw Pence Under The Bus And Now 'President Pelosi' Is Trending
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Trump Just Threw Pence Under The Bus And Now 'President Pelosi' Is Trending
President Donald Trump dragged Vice President Mike Pence ’s name into his growing Ukraine scandal on Wednesday.
The White House released a summary of a conversation in which Trump pressured Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky to investigate 2020 Democratic presidential front-runner Joe Biden and his son, Hunter Biden. But Trump said he was not the only one to speak to Zelensky.
“I think you should ask for Vice President Pence’s conversation because he had a couple of conversations also,” Trump said.
Trump also said he and Pence would both be exonerated, and called the vice president’s conversations with Ukraine “perfect.”
Critics of the administration are now envisioning a scenario in which both Trump and Pence end up impeached. While it would take an unlikely sequence of events for that to happen, the reaction caused # PresidentPelosi to trend Wednesday night and Thursday morning, given that the speaker of the House would be next in the line of succession:
This article originally appeared on HuffPost .
Exactly !
With his degree of narcissism, if Trump is going down, he's going to take everyone he can with him.
Yep, and it will be everyone else's fault, not trump. That idiot never accepts blame for anything.
Hmmmmm.....memories of 1974
I was in the first grade.
I was 12
This is just another example why I no longer trust our main stream media. This headline has nothing in the article to provide any meat to the story without a healthy dose of wishful thinking. Hardly throwing him under the bus... The headline has one purpose, to generate online clicks which translate into money because that's what our MSM has become.
I really miss the days when the news was presented as news and not driven to generate money from advertisers.
The POS shitstain liar in chief can never take responsibility for his treasonous actions. It's always someone else's fault.
Treason. Ok.
See, hyperbole like this is why no one is interested in being alarmed by the latest manufactured scandal.
Well …..that was "Different" /s !
Do you really want to cumpear Putins DICK DOCK
with Obama,
cause thats an unwinnable argument, [Deleted]
What manufactured scandal?
Nope, not a manufactured scandal....he did it, he was caught. No denying it.
Whataboutism at it's finest.
That's all they got.
More whataboutism...next up...Hillary, Hillary, Hillary.
We're talking about what shitstain trumptard did, which is illegal and treasonous. Deal with it.
More and more whataboutism...Obama, Obama, Obama, Hillary, Hillary, Hillary...time to change the channel...they are OLD news. Keep up with the current events the POS liar in chief residing in the whitehouse TODAY does on a daily basis.
Of course deporables turn a mother fucking blind eye to ALL the bullshit this shitstain on America has done in 3 yrs.
I know and of course the fake story about Joe Biden that has been debunked. But, but, but, Obama, Biden and Hillary.
It's manufactured in that the president did something he had every right to do and his opponents don't just disagree with it, they want to make it scandal. It's stupid.
He could be caught doing a lot of things. That doesn't mean they're all impeachable offenses.
And by the way, he's not denying that he did it. He's just denying that it matters.
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Nope, he had no fucking 'right' to do it whatsoever.
It's not stupid. It's treason like in 2016.
BULLSHIT
Not when he is exposing ILLEGAL ACTIVITY BY THIS DICKHEAD IN OUR WHITE HOUSE
.
He is a True AMERICAN !
glad i could live down to your expectations
He didn't? You're telling me that the current President of the United States has no right to inquire into the actions of a former Vice President who was acting in his capacity as Vice President? Seriously?
Just about everything the shitstain in chief has done have been impeachable offenses.
Snowflakes melting fast around here.
Seems people ae\re gettin awfully worried and defensive
That's what Im talking about. When you think everything is a crime, you have no credibility to argue that any particular thing is a crime. You can't discriminate between things you simply don't like and things that are actually against the rules.
You laugh because you don't understand.
Everything the shitstain has done has been pretty much against the fucking rules.
I laugh because you're ludicrous in defending everything the fucking shitstain thug thief conman grifter has done.
Oh....so We aren't allowed to look behind the old moldy curtain now ?
"We're talking about what shitstain trumptard did, which is illegal and treasonous. "
I hear that courts want actual "Proof" of a crime, not "Conjecture" and Innuendo", in order to "Convict" !
Has that "Changed" ?
Anyone looked into the ones that told this "WhistlingLeaker" what to say yet ?
Oh for gosh sakes ….. what was I thinking. It hasn't been reported on the TV talk shows yet.
Then laugh at yourself because you would impeach Trump for brushing his teeth.
Pure nonsense. Typical from you.
Again, sheer nonsense. Typical.
Stupid also.
Why would I laugh at myself Mr. Twist?
Do you have any examples? I mean hard hitting, long lasting things he has done to America.
So your saying he left Russia NOT BETTER !
While Putins' cock dock has yet to even SAY a negative word about him, and had to be drug along to implement sanctions better than a year later !
Trump sided with Putin , while by his side in HELLsinki ,
while disregarding the findings oF OUR intelligence,
that obviously wasn't shared with all.
More whataboutisms....is that all you've got. Trumptard got caught, that's all there's to it...
You have google, why don't YOU look up all the lies this fucktard has said in 3 yrs. And now this.
Also, look up the stuff he's doing to fuck up the environment. You're an adult, you do your homework.
Did you know that Putin and Russia love seeing the West in turmoil ?
Guess which party is REALLY making Putin and Russia Happy.
f u can't see n e yet,
y
should n e waste time explaining...
Nope. It's telling Vladimir that you believe him over the United States own intelligence community. It's continually giving Vladimir cover by lying for him, telling the American people that it wasn't Russia who spent $1.25 million a month to get Trump elected, telling the American people it wasn't Russia who illegally hacked US citizen emails and released them in an effort to help Trump and hurt his opponent. It's telling the Russian Agent Maria Butina “I believe I would get along very nicely with Putin. I don’t think you would need the sanctions,” during the campaign, clearly signaling to Russia that Trump had Putin's back. It's literally asking Russia for help during the election "Russia, if you're listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing,”.
"Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court." - United States Constitution. Article III, section 3
You mean following the law and going to congress for approval to respond to Russia's illegal actions? So really it was the Republicans who were in charge and refused to authorize any real response that are the traitors, thanks for pointing that out.
Didn't stop Obama in Libya …… Did it ?
Putin's cockholster! I forgot about that peach!
Read the reports, maybe you'll get a clue, but then again, maybe not.
Neither Joe Biden nor his son Hunter have done anything wrong.
Do you understand the word exonerated?
'Guess which party is REALLY making Putin and Russia Happy.'
THE 'RIGHT'
tRump is Putin's cockholster.
He has a Putin tramp stamp above his big fat stinky ass.
Once again, that's okay because trumptard said it and anything he says deporables believe is okay and not a problem.
You missed the "Wall" again.
Exonerated ?
Such a Strong word.
"Half Truth" !
That said, experts criticize the Bidens for their arrangement, saying it could have been a significant conflict of interest.
"Expanded "Interest" is warranted !
how about the one thats still defending and supporting his PUPPET !
how
can you knumb skullz knot C this WTF...
Link ?
Putin must be worried:
Kremlin says it hopes US wouldn't release calls between Trump and Putin calls
so, the ones that want his puppet removed, are the one PUTIN SUPPORTS
WTF
i shoved that link right down Trumps throat, Putin showed me how !
Since it's available , the "American People" would love to see it !
As usual, you use lots of word to say dick.
'Link ?'
I prefer patties
I was actually speaking of Nancy, but you are allowed to relive your fantasy life all you want !
So you still have nothing and have to return to "But, but, but Hillary's emails!" and follow it up with a "But Trump was just joking...".
Tell that to Russia, they apparently didn't get the joke, but they got the message.
On the day Trump said "Russia, if you're listening..." Russia did in fact kick their hacking efforts into high gear.
"according to the indictment, which was announced Friday, Russian actors sent phishing emails to accounts at a domain used by Clinton’s personal office. They also targeted 76 email addresses on the domain used by the Clinton campaign, though the exact timing of both of those efforts is unclear."
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They forgot all about the Russian hacking
you are the one pursuing porn
it is not IT Is ME, it is it is you,
Right ?
Where ?
on another note, i have to go, but there are a few around here that I feel have earned some special attention, that may include the concentration of creativity, and that is not in any way to be contrived as not a promise,
and should be regarded as a privilege,
Lies have no bearing on the question. And, what is he doing to fuck up the environment? YOU made the statement and I asked YOU for some examples. And remember the criteria if you would be so kind.
Lady in black doesn't lie.
tRump and his supporters? Every other word out of their fucking mouths.
I hope I'm one of those that gets a dose of your special creativity!
Since you can't use google here are just 5 examples...
Didn't say SHE lies. FFS read. I posted she brought up Trump's lies which have NO destructive powers on America............unless one WANTS to think they do. I see what he does. They words are meaningless without action. The actions on the other hand, don't need words. They are evident. And I like it. Why don't you................oh wait. I think I just answered my own question.
Thanks.
Rinse and repeat....Obama, Obama, Obama, Hillary, Hillary, Hillary... whataboutisms is all you have to offer.
When the name Obama and/or Hillary is in your post, I don't waste my time reading old news....this is about Trumptard and all the bullshit he has put this country through in the last 3 yrs.....Next you'll throw out the old chestnut Benghazi.....Sad that you can't see the damage trump is doing to this country.
He lies every time he opens his mouth, he is a braggart and a bully, he has NEVER acted presidential in any way shape or form. His policies are only for the 1% and are out to wreck the environment because of those big and bad awful regulations on businesses, but fuck the average American. He knows more than anybody else in the entire world.
Did you know Mexico is going to pay for the wall, he has a wonderful health care plan, he is going to give a middle class tax cut, he knows more than generals, tariffs are going to pay for themselves, he believes Putin over our own intelligence agencies. He had the biggest inaugural crowd (according to him, but in reality no he did not). He doesn't know decorum if it bite him in the nose, when he met the Queen of England the buffoon turned his back on her. He won't listen to anyone. He loves Mr. XYZ until Mr. XYZ does not agree with him and then Mr. XYZ gets called every name in the book.
He is a vindictive liar, cheater, swindler, king of bankruptcies, pussy grabber and thinks anything and everything he does not matter how disgraceful is no big deal
And now the lastest treasonous act of trying to fuck over an American citizen by being dishonest with a foreign country.
He stiffed how many American workers with all his bankruptcies.
I can go on and on and on and on and on.
I am mystified as to how anyone thinks he is anywhere near a good president...
What's he done?
You can't even make a list of the things he's done wrong.
Well, we know that Trump or his administration won't release any sensitive information, but that leaves all the Democrat pond scum in Congress, and Obama hold overs and left wing operatives still working in several governmental agencies...plus all the enablers and cronies in the media. .
They already did...the call....oh boo frickin hoo
Here we go another whataboutism post....oh joy of joy another trump minion heard from
Putin sent the "Thank You" to Republicans who blocked any action after Obama followed the law and went to them for authorization. Putin's thank you was in the form of illegal aide during the 2016 campaign and it was heard and welcomed them with open arms. Putin hated Obama and blamed him for what he saw as election meddling from the US in the March 4, 2012 Russian sham election where the US verbally supported free and fair elections which were exactly the opposite of what Putin wanted for Russia.
Easier to be 'all powerful' when you don't care about protocol and the law. Not to mention getting his orders from a higher authority who also doesn't bother with following the law. The puppetmaster is pleased with his poodle. Or wombat. Or orange cockwomble. I'm sure he has a lot of nicknames. And Moscow Mitch has been in full cooperation and compliance.
Considering Trump has had his party in control of the Senate for his entire first term, it's clear that makes a big difference in getting any political agenda accomplished. Trump wouldn't be getting any of his malignant agenda done if Democrats had controlled the Senate. You do understand how that works right? And Trump is certainly not "all powerful" but with the help of a spineless Republican legislature and an enemy foreign government willing to shill for him and deploy assets to help Trump win he does have more power than Obama did from 2011 to 2016 where Republicans basically sat on their hands or fiddled like Nero as they watched the last vestiges of a "United" States burn. And after ginning up fear and hatred of Democrats they blamed it all on Obama and convinced the poorly educated masses that everything was broken so they might as well elect a worthless cretin who pandered to white supremacists and bitter protectionists as President.
Naw, it's more like telling Vladamir that yes, you would love help winning the election in 2016.
Same here, I don't read most of the posts from Loki or any of the other tRump supporters . Waste of time. No facts, just deflections and trolling
Pussy ass bitch is another good one to describe the shitstain
Nope tRump has been sucking Putin's dick for years now.
1) Read the site rules, it will explain it. SMH
2) Muller said that the trump admin didn't seek out help from the Russians, but did ACCEPT help from the Russians when it was offered. It's in the report, that you didn't read... Looks like you need to do some reading. Enjoy!
What? Reading and facts? Not interested huh? Oh well. LOL
No shit! Even Fox is scrambling how to survive not being Trump's propaganda TV machine. But gee, when you're a Palin fan...!? 🤪
I wish I could post links from my phone.
I see Nancy Pelosi as she defends Lady Liberty mimicking Joan Crawford's "Don't fuck with me fellas!!"
I don't want that either. How does any of this involve Ukraine in our election? Or conversely, what interaction with any foreign government would not involve them in our election? If a country cooperates with the president in any way, it could make the president look good, helping his reelection.
Presidents routinely freeze some or all of an appropriation. They have some authority to do that. There is nothing in the transcript of the conversation with the Ukrainian president that connects that aid to the request.
I'm sorry, but that cannot be a policy you support. You're really telling me that the president of these United States must cease any inquiry into the official actions of elected officials just because they are running for election to his job? That's insane.
Are you talking about Biden Jr or Biden Sr? Even if Biden Jr is clean, there may be something unethical in what Biden Sr did. Or maybe not. The current president should be allowed to look into it.
Bob Mueller investigated the possibility of collusion between the Russian government and the Trump campaign. He found there was none. Democrats couldn't care less. They go right on insisting there was collusion and investigating something that is supposed have been found not to have happened. So why should Trump just quit investigating?
Mueller made it abundantly clear that he could not rule out trump committing obstruction which is actually a crime, collusion is not.
You're better off talking to the wall, but, either way, you'll get off the wall responses.
But prosecutors provided little, if any, mitigating information pointing to Trump's innocence.
In fact, they emphasized, "If we had confidence after a thorough investigation of the facts that the President clearly did not commit obstruction of justice, we would so state. Based on the facts and the applicable legal standards, however, we are unable to reach that judgment."
Mueller stated on numerous occasions that it was not his place to indict a sitting president. He gave the report to Congress to act upon but not before Barr got his fat little hands on it and re-interpreted it to make trump look innocent.
Mueller never exonerated trump no matter how you slice it or dice it. And you know this.
How about when Trump claimed EXONERATION !
So, by that logic, if I was the independent front runner for, no matter what year, and I asked a foreign government to essentially do oppo research on YOUR candidate of choice, I am exempt from EVER facing charges because I could be the likely opponent of YOUR candidate of choice?
I guess that's why libs think it was OK for Hillary to hire a British spy to get dirt on Trump. Dirt that turned out to be completely false.
Actually, they used an American law firm to filter money to the British firm in order to hide where the payment came from.
Can you please list what on the report came to be true?
In 2013, Obama froze aid to Egypt , although he was under a lot of pressure to freeze more than he did. Two years later, he released the aid, both acts coming under his own authority.
In 2009, Obama suspended aid to Honduras and Madagascar, following coups there, and did the same in 2012 regarding assistance to Mali.
In 2017, Trump froze aid to the Palestinian Authority , and it failed to become a national scandal. Not much talk of him exceeding his authority or "extorting" anyone.
On August 3 of this year , the administration froze between $2 billion and $4 billion of aid to several countries and organizations in Europe, Eurasia, and Central Asia .
In January of 2018, Trump froze $255 million in aid to Pakistan, after previously freezin aid the summer before.
Going back further, in 2006, Bush froze aid to Thailand.
Of course, Congress doesn't always sit quietly by while the president does this kind of thing and his authority to hold up aid varies depending on the situation. When it does happen, I don't think it lasts for very long. Obama holding up aid to Egypt for two years seems pretty unusual.
Sometimes the more efficient solution is for the president to cut aid in his proposed budget. Then he probably avoids a constitutional fight down the road. I don't know if Trump things that far ahead. To be honest, I kind of doubt it.
So Obama froze aid when the military took over a country or the country had a coup.
McConnell himself said he wondered and never got a reason why the aid was withheld.
as who the fck knows where the funds would go...
these examples have nothing to do with Trump, as what was his reason again, oh yea, he hasn't given it.
He did throw out some lame excuse about other countries not paying their fair share.
We all know that is bullshit though.
Yeah, my understanding is that it's a requirement, but that hinges on how one defines a coup. When it came up under the Obama administration, he didn't always want to call it a coup (Egypt, for example). In Ukraine, Trump seemed to be making the argument that the existing government was too corrupt to be trusted with aid.
Taking him at his word for a moment (please withhold laughter), that is an issue we have confronted in the past (e.g. Nigeria, Ethiopia, and other African countries). There is often pressure to withhold aid to the country, knowing that corrupt officials will just use the money to buy another mansion somewhere, but I don't think the president has as much authority in that circumstance. That may be the reason Trump had to change his mind so quickly.
My contention is, if that was the case, why lie about it. If that was what was going on all along he could have said that and saved himself a bunch of trouble.
Instead he makes up excuses and lies. One has to wonder why.
Were any of those instances an effort to buy aid for an election campaign ?
His first excuse was something about being concerned with corruption, which is fckn hilarious, and then he changed it to something about what you stated, fair share or some shit.
What from the released excerpt, has anything to do with that ?
B sides NOTHING
I suppose you could argue anything, but I wouldn't say so. However, I don't see it in the current situation. The release of aid apparently happened independently of any request. In fact, the aid has already been unfrozen and nothing has happened in the way of an investigation. Just saying "we're friends, so do me a solid" doesn't quite equate to buying aid for a campaign.
Did he lie or was it more like there was an explanation on Monday and a different, perhaps supplemental reason on Tuesday?
Not to sound mean yet, do you even hear yourself? A supplemental reason?
Why in the world would someone need a supplemental reason unless the first reason was bullshit.
Doesn't matter what the shitstain 'president' does, tacos always excuses it with his twisting and nonsense.
What the fuck is a 'supplemental' reason?????????????????
All you have is bullshit and twisting for Christs' sake. Give it up.
All tacos has for this 'president' is excuses [deleted and twisting.]
I don't see why you think it's that weird. He could have ten reasons but doesn't want to put the effort into explaining them all to people. I don't like being bothered with explaining every thought that went into a decision I made, so I may give you just one to start. If you keep bugging me about it, I might give you another.
Or it could be BS as you say. I'm not going to assume it's one or the other.
All of your excuses and twisting and tRump ass kissing is weird.
Supplemental reason/alternative fact/complete and utter bullshit.
All you have is bullshit and twisting for Christs' sake. Give it up.
So mature.
Worse than a toddler.
Just like tRump.
Anyone who is stupid enough to work with Trump knowing his penchant for throwing people under the bus gets no sympathy from me. As my mother once said to me "If you want sympathy, get a dictionary. You will find it between shit and syphilis."
Taint
that the truth
Of course if you don't think you're doing anything wrong, it's not throwing under bus.
It's hard to take all of this seriously because someone in Party A does something and it's fine, but when someone in Party B does it, it's suddenly some shameful scandal and a national emergency. It's all kind of ridiculous.
When did democrats ever collude with foreign governments to get dirt on their opponents?
NEVER
Twist, twist, twist, twist, twist.
They haven't but for trumptard to do so it's all fine and dandy, just like candy.
Trump didn't collude with anyone.
Learn what you're attempting to talk about and get back with us.
Do you realize one from either side can say this...
Oh yes, they all do it. When we elect a Democrat again, I'm sure you'll see some of this going the other way.
The liberal news media has a problem because after they were so incredibly wrong on the Russia hoax, it's hard to take anything from them seriously. It's sad to have to say but they made a business decision to lie about Trump when they knew there was nothing there for over 2 years. It's obvious they will do whatever it takes to take Trump down so now even if he did ever do anything wrong, it would be like the boy crying wolf.
The malignant cancer threat to our Republic is the Democratic Party. They are the single greatest threat to our continuance since our founding
Townhall?
The gop are a cancer, a shitstain on our democracy, this administration/'president' are a bunch of grifters, thieves, thugs, conmen, crooks, scum.
Trumptard and his republican minions are cancer to America
There's so much good going on in this country for the MAJORITY of "American" citizens these days !
Do you have an example of the "Cancer" problem ?
Do you have an example of the good 'going on in this country for the majority of american citizens' these days?
Job Unemployment Rate !
Seems there are more jobs available than there are folks too.
Now for YOU:
Find ME the "Cancer" !
You must provide the link and the source of your graph.
Read bottom left corner of graph.
'Read bottom left corner of graph.'
That's not a link.
It's the Source !
Look it up if you dispute it. I know you can.
The graph has CNBC as the source. You need a link to where you got the graph from. A URL
Exactly where it came from !
No, the url, the link to the graph, not just CNBC
You need to provide it since you posted the graph.
IT'S NOT UP TO ME TO LOOK IT UP
Tax cuts are a joke.
They certainly are
I'm a widow with no dependents. My "tax cut" won't even fill the gas tank of my Silverado.
I have health insurance through my job, and I'm in a high deductible and have a health savings account that my firm matches.
Beat me to it. I had the same thought. Those tanks are like 30+ gallons and hogs. Would take $100 or more a week cut to pay for that.
Not that it's any of your FUCKING business, but the Silverado was my late husbands and is paid for so I dumped my old car and now drive the Silverado....don't like it too fucking bad....
I'm done with your bullshit....talk to yourself
It's your own fault if you get upset over all this.
I imagine its a lot more fun to try to get under someones skin than think about the subject of this seed, which is Pence being tied to Trumps high crimes and misdemeanors.
Tax cuts for the 1%
NEXT
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Which counts for nothing when you factor in the tariffs... You are actually LOSING money. But hey, the super rich got richer, that should make ya feel good!
What a JO Trump statement
For real.
The malignant cancer threat to our democracy is the Republican Party. They are the single greatest threat to our continuance since our founding.
Your constant attacks on real Americans is both sad and disgusting. You have added nothing to the conversation other than to malign and lie about patriotic Americans and its getting old. I get it, you're stuck in your ways and can't see anything past your hatred of law abiding tax paying American citizens simply because they don't accept your narrow brand of faith. No matter how hard you cry and whine about Democrats, liberals, progressives, Muslims, immigrants, atheists, lgtbq Americans and everyone else you obviously despise, America is growing more diverse every year and that's not going to change even with a vile piece of shit like Trump in the white house. Go ahead, gnash your teeth, cry and complain, call everyone socialists, statists, Marxists, communists, whatever fantasy attack you want, it won't make a bit of difference as the majority of Americans continue to support freedom, justice and equality for all regardless of race, gender, gender identity, sexual orientation, faith or lack thereof.
You certainly sound angry and unhappy, and unable to follow the CoC guidelines,
I doubt if you're as virtuous as you're trying to make us believe.
I'm not trying to make you believe anything. I have gotten tired of some peoples constant attacks on entire groups of Americans who have done nothing wrong but love this country but are told they are "the single greatest threat" to this country. There are some who attack others just for being liberal, progressive, gay or transgender. I try hard not to attack anyone personally just because they're a religious conservative, but I frequently attack the religious conservative idea that we are somehow a "Christian nation" and not a diverse nation of immigrants made stronger by our diversity of faith, race and sexual orientation.
Hopefully you can see the sarcasm in the first line of my comment where I was simply repeating the same nonsense back to lfod that he was throwing out at Democrats in general. It was intended to make a point as I do not actually feel all Republicans are "a cancer" as lfod claimed of Democrats. The implication of course is that he believes Democrats should be cut out of society or perhaps poisoned to death through metaphorical evangelical Christian chemotherapy. I've said many times that I do wish Americans could come together behind a common goal or to deal with a common threat or common enemy. I would have thought that we would have come together to push back on the blatant election interference from Russia, what I believe to be our common enemy with a known murderous dictator who greatly desires to sabotage western democracy and everything America stands for. But sadly that didn't happen. Instead, we saw polls of Republicans where as many as 40% viewed Russia as a friend and ally, even after their election interference. Vladimir Putin truly is the greatest threat to America and our ideals that I've seen in my lifetime, far worse than any former head of Russia even back into the cold war days. And to hear another fellow American proclaim that it's not Putin or Russia but other law abiding American citizens who are the "greatest threat" just boggles the mind.
Liberals, progressives, Democrats, immigrants and minorities, in general, desire an America that has room for everyone. Whether you're Christian, Muslim, Buddhist, Atheist or LGTBQ, we can all get along if everyone treats others as they would like to be treated. But there are some, not all, but some, who don't think there isn't room for everyone and are working hard to undermine our founders ideals going so far as to misrepresent our founders words in an effort to close down the borders and create some Berlin wall-like protectionist nation that doesn't welcome diversity and believes those who look different, worship different or are attracted to relationships not approved of by some faiths, should "get out" as if those clinging to the old white Christian patriarchy are the only "legitimate" Americans who deserve the protections provided by our constitution.
I too get tired of all the, Liberals are evil, shit. Democrats are the true enemy crap. The progressive people want to destroy the nation all the while, they themselves, backing legislation and thought that are detrimental to society/the US.
It is almost like that is the only way they can stay in power. Demonize and make a group of people an enemy. Always make it 'us against them'. That there is only one version of the US, their version, and they have the key.
Funny how when Obama was in power, Russia was bad. How dare Obama tell them that after the election, he would have more room to negotiate. Now Putin is admired by these same people.
It is now acceptable to embrace and love murderous dictators, agree with Putin over our own intelligence agencies, condemn our allies and blame everything on some of their own countrymen.
DARN TOOTIN!
The virulent tribalism lfod espouses to dehumanize and demonize at least half his fellow Americans is toxic to the American body politic. There is no path forward with those of such false grace. Therefore modern society must advance without such hindering anchors leaving them in our dust...
"Real" Americans are those who embrace what our nation truly stands for, the ideals of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, freedom, justice and equality for all regardless of race, gender, gender identity, sexual orientation, faith or lack thereof. Real Americans can come from anywhere and look like anyone and speak any language. Real Americans embrace the Statue of Liberty and what she represents and who she is as the poem states she is "The Mother of Exiles" and proclaims to the rest of the world "Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me". Real Americans don't attack and discriminate against those who are merely different from them, or those who worship a different God or none. Real Americans do not have spite in their hearts for those who happen to look different, love different or feel their inside gender doesn't match their outside gender, they treat them just the same as they would like to be treated, with kindness and respect and have no problem serving them in businesses open to the public. Real Americans aren't selfishly trying to hoard American resources as if there isn't enough to go around, bitter at those who have more than themselves or condescending to those who have less. They share their bread with their fellow Americans regardless of our differences and they stand together to honor and respect those who protect our nation from threats and those who have given their lives protecting American values.
Kudos DP Kudos
Lfod has even talked about taking up arms against democrats
Thank You
for expressing what so many actually feel, in our country that has become undone, as I will always salute ones who realize what our founding fathers had envisioned.
Very distinctly and respectfully stated
A tact, I often lack, though, I'm well aware you share similar frustration, as irregardless of the solid origins of your concisely created corespondence, you might possibly see how arguments stated from facts, are attemptedly debunked by deflection, straw men, and out and out False hoods
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again, excellently expressed,
and non combative.
I have not your patience
you take the High Road, and all roll wherever
pduo
thats du[licate to everyone else
High fives! So well said and written. So right on! That is what "real Americans" are in spite of what is in their wallets or their lot in life. Who these others are has to come from very bitter immigrants who carried their segregationist/superiority complex ideas with them. How else does this hate get instituted and a part of any family's genealogy or part of American history? (The Civil War told everything!) Yes, we have been fighting hate since day one this country decided to end England's rule and to shoot to find a more perfect union. We got here through the ideals you have so eloquently listed. Although long from perfect but also long from a horrendous past.
600,000 died in the name of hate, and the will to fight against egregious human violations because some thought themselves superior. The south and their way of hating found its fate already.
We either learn by our mistakes or rinse and repeat. I see some who want to rinse and repeat. I just roll my eyes and wonder how in the hell did they continue to be so stupid!?!
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Lotsa "Pot Meet Kettle" opportunities here today............well every day actually.
And the prosecution rests..............
Well, it's a shallow attempt to spin the fact that Nancy Pelosi's slapping a 'new and improved' label on the ongoing Democratic political investigations was an abdication of control over the Democratic House. Pelosi isn't in charge any longer; she has become just a figurehead.
Calling the ongoing Democratic political investigations 'impeachment investigations' doesn't change anything. There wasn't a vote in the House to provide credence to the claim. Pelosi was forced to accede to factions within the Democratic Party that are challenging Pelosi's leadership. Pelosi lost; there's no other way to describe what has happened. While this does provide the corrupt press an opportunity to sell more advertising, nothing concerning the ongoing investigations to dig up political dirt have changed.
And Trump did not throw Mike Pence under the bus. Mike Pence conversing with Zelensky is going to be reported eventually. Trump just disclosed those conversations and took away a 'breathtaking' disclosure from the corrupt press.
Trump is well ahead of the hair-on-fire press once again; Trump gets this scoop.
Trump is a few scoops short of a pint of ice cream
Plus, all vanilla is boring.
And you know that absolutely nothing detrimental to Trump will happen because of this latest left wing kerfuffle.
Biden and his boy will not be so fortunate.
He's an order of fries short of a happy meal
Biden and his son are guilty of nothing
May want to revisit that prediction. Trump and his spokesholes had a huge failure in talking points yesterday. The days of unchallenged lies and conspiracy theories are finally over.
You should probably get used to calling her Madame President!
While it will never happen, someone over on fox news, (comment section), said that it IS possible. Trump and Pence are impeached, (or resign), Pelosi is POTUS, takes Hillary as VP, Pelosi resigns.
Of course it's a massive pipe dream that would never happen, but, it would be funny as hell watching the nutters heads explode.
For six months?
The House won't vote on articles of impeachment before the end of the year because there are several long recesses. An impeachment trial will drag on past the end of primaries. So, Pelosi would be a six month President without any opportunity for reelection. And Pelosi would lose the the House Speaker's position.
Under that scenario, electing the first woman President would lose its luster as a political selling point. A short term political win would carry a very high cost for Democrats.
I read that possibility on twitter. I literary laughed my ass off!
Especially seeing their heads explode while we revel in Nirvana!
It would be sweet karma!
So hold your breath why dontcha?
Why? The fear is that Pelosi will stall on impeachment to run out the clock.
Keep in mind that the Democratic Senators running for President would need to recuse themselves from an impeachment trial. So, any attempt at impeachment will need to wait until Joe Biden pretty much has the nomination locked up and the Senators drop out of the race.
Did any gop recuse from the Clinton impeachment hearings?
I do not know if any Republicans (or Democrats) recused themselves from Clinton's impeachment trial.. The impeachment of Bill Clinton occurred in the middle of Clinton's second term and affected midterm elections.
The Mueller investigation was timed to coincide with the middle of Trump's first term. The political collapse of the Mueller probe really did stymie Democrat's efforts to impeach Trump.
Trump has been sucking Putin's dick for many years now and has been taking it up the ass whenever Putin wants a change of pace and