Judge rejects Trump's challenge to the release of his tax returns for a New York state criminal probe

  
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Judge rejects Trump's challenge to the release of his tax returns for a New York state criminal probe

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Federal judge rejects President Trump's challenge to the release of his tax returns for a New York state criminal probe.

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Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
1  seeder  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom    2 weeks ago

Spank over the last 8 years, jackass.

 
 
 
devangelical
1.1  devangelical  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @1    2 weeks ago

a sweet gig for the secret service agents that get to protect him in the big house for the rest of his short life

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
1.1.1  seeder  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  devangelical @1.1    2 weeks ago

They'll be stacked up like cordwood.  Trump's definition of 'shit-hole' will be changing in the next 18 months.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
2  Just Jim NC TttH    2 weeks ago

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Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
2.1  seeder  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @2    2 weeks ago

I'll admit it.  That is kinda funny.

 
 
 
WallyW
3  WallyW    2 weeks ago

All this for an alleged payoff to whore Stormy? Too funny!

Hope Trump makes them take it to the Supreme Court

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Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
3.1  seeder  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  WallyW @3    2 weeks ago
All this for an alleged payoff to whore Stormy? Too funny!

The fact you think that's what it's all about is too funny.

 
 
 
WallyW
3.1.1  WallyW  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @3.1    2 weeks ago

From the original article.....

"The Manhattan district attorney, Cyrus R. Vance Jr., has been investigating whether any New York State laws were broken when Mr. Trump and his company reimbursed the president’s former lawyer and fixer, Michael D. Cohen, for payments he made in the run-up to the 2016 election to the pornographic film actress Stormy Daniels , who had said she had an affair with Mr. Trump."

 
 
 
Ozzwald
3.1.2  Ozzwald  replied to  WallyW @3.1.1    2 weeks ago
From the original article.....

So you feel they should just ignore that crime???

 
 
 
bugsy
3.1.3  bugsy  replied to  Ozzwald @3.1.2    2 weeks ago
So you feel they should just ignore that crime???

About as much as the left is ignoring Biden's crime of threatening a foreign President with US funds unless he fired a prosecutor that was investigating a company that Biden's son was "coincidentally" a board member of.

Difference is...Biden got a return for his demand

 
 
 
Ozzwald
3.1.4  Ozzwald  replied to  bugsy @3.1.3    2 weeks ago
About as much as the left is ignoring Biden's crime of threatening a foreign President with US funds unless he fired a prosecutor that was investigating a company that Biden's son was "coincidentally" a board member of.

You mean the conspiracy theory so outlandish that even FoxNews refuses to run with it?

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bugsy
3.1.5  bugsy  replied to  Ozzwald @3.1.4    2 weeks ago
You mean the conspiracy theory so outlandish that even Fox News refuses to run with it?

Just because Fox, unlike CNN, doesn't have a "we got him now" countdown clock on the screen doesn't mean they are not reporting on it.

In addition, you may want to change your selfie. It looks a little disturbing.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
3.1.6  Ozzwald  replied to  bugsy @3.1.5    2 weeks ago
Just because Fox, unlike CNN, doesn't have a "we got him now" countdown clock on the screen doesn't mean they are not reporting on it.

Care to provide some FoxNews links???

Otherwise your theory is:

  • Biden pressured Ukraine to fire the prosecutor who HAD NOT BEEN investigating the company Burisma for OVER A YEAR.
  • The company that hired Hunter Biden 2 years AFTER THE INCIDENT the prosecutor was investigating. 
  • And somehow Joe Biden had gotten officials throughout the Obama administration and in Western Europe to not only agree to pressure Ukraine to fire the prosecutor, but to assign that job to Biden himself.

That's your theory???? jrSmiley_88_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Greg Jones
3.1.7  Greg Jones  replied to  Ozzwald @3.1.2    2 weeks ago

What crime did Trump commit?

Was he charged, convicted, sentenced?

 
 
 
Ozzwald
3.1.8  Ozzwald  replied to  Greg Jones @3.1.7    2 weeks ago

Was he charged, convicted, sentenced?

You know as well as I do, DOJ will not indict a sitting President.  I also notice that you are not disputing whether he has broken the law.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
3.1.9  Greg Jones  replied to  Ozzwald @3.1.8    2 weeks ago

Innocent until proven guilty. With left wingers the opposite applies.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
3.1.10  Ozzwald  replied to  Greg Jones @3.1.9    2 weeks ago
Innocent until proven guilty.

That's in a court of law.  If Trump really is innocent, why  doesn't he approve for the DOJ to indict sitting Presidents?

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
3.1.11  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Greg Jones @3.1.9    2 weeks ago
Innocent until proven guilty. With left wingers the opposite applies.

Yes, that's exactly the double standard nearly all those on the right employ. If it's one of their own, innocent till proven guilty, and even then some will reject the facts by claiming it's some "deep state" conspiracy. But with the left, the opposite applies, they are guilty regardless of whether the accusation came from an unnamed source, they're guilty regardless of whether what they're accused of is even a crime, they're guilty just by association, if you're on the left you're a 2nd amendment hating, illegal immigrant loving, abortion loving, socialism loving statist Marxist with no soul regardless of the fact that virtually no one on the left actually believes any part of their ridiculous straw man the right have erected of them and lit on fire.

 
 
 
katrix
3.1.12  katrix  replied to  Greg Jones @3.1.9    2 weeks ago
Innocent until proven guilty. With left wingers the opposite applies.

Yes, it's clear that you believe that. Lock her up when it comes to Hillary, but no Republican should ever be investigated.

The hypocrisy of the extreme right is appalling.

 
 
 
WallyW
3.1  WallyW  replied to  WallyW @3    2 weeks ago

Obama's IRS would have leaked any incriminating irregularities a long time ago.

 
 
 
Texan1211
3.1.1  Texan1211  replied to  WallyW @3.1    2 weeks ago

Exactly--a point some still refuse to acknowledge.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
3.2  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  WallyW @3    2 weeks ago

This has nothing to do with Stormy.  Trump already got busted for denying he ever paid her off.  His tax returns will prove or disprove whether he filed false returns in regards to his income and if it resulted in his paying no taxes at all.  If and I mean IF it is proven that his returns are bogus, the IRS should go after the acorns that fell from the tree also.

 
 
 
Texan1211
3.2.1  Texan1211  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @3.2    2 weeks ago
This has nothing to do with Stormy.  

Gee, you should alert the Fishwrap-of-Record then immediately.

From the NYT--the vaunted source for many liberals:

Mr. Vance’s office has been investigating whether any New York State laws were broken when Mr. Trump and his company reimbursed the president’s former lawyer and fixer, Michael D. Cohen, for payments he made in the run-up to the 2016 election to the pornographic film actress Stormy Daniels, who had said she had an affair with Mr. Trump.
 
 
 
Greg Jones
3.2.2  Greg Jones  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @3.2    2 weeks ago

Trump doesn't do his own tax returns, his lawyers and accountants do. I would suspect he pays for the best and they wouldn't make such an obvious and unlawful mistake.

 

 
 
 
bugsy
4  bugsy    2 weeks ago

Anybody with a lick of common sense will know this is not over. Trump is not going to say...OK, here ya go. More than likely this will go to the Supreme Court quickly, since they started a new session today, and they will see it for what it is..political

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
4.1  seeder  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  bugsy @4    2 weeks ago
Trump is not going to say...OK,

That's because he is a criminal.

 
 
 
Texan1211
4.1.1  Texan1211  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @4.1    2 weeks ago
"The Manhattan district attorney, Cyrus R. Vance Jr., has been investigating whether any New York State laws were broken when Mr. Trump and his company reimbursed the president’s former lawyer and fixer, Michael D. Cohen, for payments he made in the run-up to the 2016 election to the pornographic film actress Stormy Daniels , who had said she had an affair with Mr. Trump."

Sounds much more like a fishing expedition to me.

Why would the DA need 8 years of tax returns to investigate payments made to Stormy Daniels in 2016?

Democrats can't get Trump's returns, so they are trying every trick in the book.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
4.1.2  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Texan1211 @4.1.1    2 weeks ago

Trump would be pulling the same shit against anyone he would have lost to and you know it.

 
 
 
bugsy
4.1.3  bugsy  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @4.1    2 weeks ago
That's because he is a criminal.

He is? Why does the NYAG have to go to court to get his tax returns when you apparently already have them? Maybe you can do him a favor and turn them over to him. No court fight required.

 
 
 
bugsy
4.1.4  bugsy  replied to  Texan1211 @4.1.1    2 weeks ago
Democrats can't get Trump's returns, so they are trying every trick in the book.

And have failed every single time.

 
 
 
Texan1211
4.1.5  Texan1211  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @4.1.2    2 weeks ago
Trump would be pulling the same shit against anyone he would have lost to and you know it.

That is just a wild-ass guess. No proof in it.

We DO know for a fact that the IRS under Obama did target conservatives, though. 

I don't recall hearing anything at all about the IRS under Trump doing any such thing. Enlighten me with a story and facts if I am wrong on that.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
4.1.6  JohnRussell  replied to  Texan1211 @4.1.5    2 weeks ago
We DO know for a fact that the IRS under Obama did target conservatives, though. 

That would be a "no". 

Do you remember "the IRS scandal"?

If you do, you remember  a lie .

Granted, it was an elaborate, innuendo-driven lie that many people repeated endlessly, trying to get you to believe that there was a scandal.

But it was still a lie, and a damaging one at that.

The reason to revisit this issue now is that the Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration (TIGTA) issued a report last week that showed that the supposedly scandalous behavior never happened. In other words, the central lie behind this non-scandal has been definitively undermined.

https://www.newsweek.com/remember-irs-scandal-it-was-fake-news-all-along-681674
 
 
 
JohnRussell
4.1.7  JohnRussell  replied to  bugsy @4.1.3    2 weeks ago
Cohen pleaded guilty to eight counts in federal court , saying he made illegal campaign payments at the direction of "a candidate for federal office" — a candidate Cohen's lawyer s ays is Trump . The term "unindicted co-conspirator" was used by the Watergate grand jury to describe President Nixon's role in the scandal that ultimately cost him his presidency. The plea deal has prompted the question: Can a sitting president be indicted?

The federal prosecutor in New York declined to indict Trump in the Stormy Daniels affair even though Cohen seemed to directly implicate him in a crime. 

Cohen pleaded guilty to eight counts in federal court , saying he made illegal campaign payments at the direction of "a candidate for federal office"

The assumption is that the federal prosecutor was following the same DOJ guidelines that kept Mueller from indicting Trump for obstruction of justice, namely that a sitting president cannot be indicted. 

The state d.a. is not constrained under that DOJ ruling. 

In other words, there is nothing wrong with describing Trump as a criminal. There are plenty of criminals around who are still awaiting justice. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
4.1.8  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.6    2 weeks ago

Right.

So the IRS apologized for doing absolutely nothing? THTA'S what you believe in your heart of hearts?

https://www.npr.org/2017/10/27/560308997

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2013/...

And why would an Obama spokesman call IRS actions wrong then, if absolutely nothing was wrong? That is extremely illogical, and begs the question of why do you believe that shit you are now peddling?

Why would the IRS settle in court after being sued by conservative groups?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national...

keep on fighting a losing battle if you must, but the real truth is out there and available if you simply choose to look at it.

read the links.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
4.1.9  JohnRussell  replied to  Texan1211 @4.1.8    2 weeks ago

Attorney General Jeff Sessions Announces Department of Justice has Settled with Plaintiff Groups Improperly Targeted by IRS

Attorney General Jeff Sessions announced today that the Department of Justice has entered into settlements, pending approval by the district courts, in two cases brought by groups whose tax-exempt status was significantly delayed by the Internal Revenue Service based on inappropriate criteria. The first case, Linchpins of Liberty v. United States, comprised claims brought by 41 plaintiffs, and the second case, NorCal Tea Party Patriots v. Internal Revenue Service, was a class action suit that included 428 members.  Attorney General Sessions released the following statement about the cases:
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/attorney-general-jeff-sessions-announces-department-justice-has-settled-plaintiff-groups

Get it? 

 
 
 
Texan1211
4.1.10  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.9    2 weeks ago

Loved YOUR headline where you just conceded that the IRS did something wrong and settled.

LMAO!

WTDF are you trying to argue--that the IRS did nothing wrong??

Whoo BOY!!!

 
 
 
Greg Jones
4.1.11  Greg Jones  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @4.1    2 weeks ago

Trump has never been convicted of any crime..

 
 
 
Jack_TX
4.1.12  Jack_TX  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @4.1.2    2 weeks ago
Trump would be pulling the same shit against anyone he would have lost to and you know it.

I do hope you are not suggesting he is the new standard of behavior to emulate.

 
 
 
bugsy
5  bugsy    2 weeks ago

Aw, damn. A federal appeals court judge just ordered a stay in favor of Trump for liberal political hacks to keep their dirty hands off Trump's tax returns.

Yet another deflate for libs...too bad.

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
5.1  seeder  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  bugsy @5    2 weeks ago

Who do you think is paying Trumps taxes for him?  That would be you.  Who do you think is paying for his bankruptcies and lawsuits filed by all the people he has stiffed?  Again, that would be you.

Maybe you like being Trump's sugar-daddy, but I don't. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
5.1.1  Texan1211  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @5.1    2 weeks ago
Who do you think is paying Trumps taxes for him?  That would be you.  Who do you think is paying for his bankruptcies and lawsuits filed by all the people he has stiffed?  Again, that would be you.

So, what was your share of Trump's taxes? How did you pay them?

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
5.1.2  seeder  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  Texan1211 @5.1.1    2 weeks ago
So, what was your share of Trump's taxes?

Trump has bragged about paying zero taxes.  There is still a budget that needs funding.  If he isn't paying his share, then we are paying it for him.  

 
 
 
Sunshine
5.1.3  Sunshine  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @5.1    2 weeks ago
Maybe you like being Trump's sugar-daddy, but I don't. 

Trump has been donating is taxpaying salary back to worthy causes.  Also, I have never heard of taxpayers paying for a business bankruptcy/foreclosure/personal lawsuits.

 
 
 
bugsy
5.1.4  bugsy  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @5.1    2 weeks ago
That would be you.

Funny how I have scoured by pay stub over and over again, and nowhere does a deduction say "Trump's taxes". Are you telling a fib again, sister?

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
5.1.5  igknorantzrulz  replied to  bugsy @5.1.4    2 weeks ago

Does your pay stub also say "Military Industrial Complex" tax ,

or , do none of your tax dollars go to that either...?

howlost r u

 
 
 
Texan1211
5.1.6  Texan1211  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @5.1.2    2 weeks ago
Trump has bragged about paying zero taxes. 

Like millions and millions of Americans with no tax liabilities.

B.F.D.

There is still a budget that needs funding.  If he isn't paying his share, then we are paying it for him.  

It will be funded like all budgets have been funded. Things didn't magically change in government because Trump won.

 
 
 
bugsy
5.1.7  bugsy  replied to  igknorantzrulz @5.1.5    2 weeks ago
howlost r u

Well, you got to 2....that's a start.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
5.1.8  Greg Jones  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @5.1.2    2 weeks ago

Perhaps he doesn't owe ant taxes. Many rich people don't thanks to tax breaks and well managed business affairs

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
5.1.9  seeder  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  bugsy @5.1.4    2 weeks ago
Are you telling a fib again, sister?

I only do that in Confession.

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
5.1.10  seeder  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  Greg Jones @5.1.8    2 weeks ago
Perhaps he doesn't owe ant taxes

I don't think anyone does.  That study was handed back to the private sector ages ago.

 
 
 
1stwarrior
6  1stwarrior    2 weeks ago

Update - this was overturned - 

The U.S. Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit on Monday granted President Donald Trump a last-minute reprieve in his effort to prevent New York prosecutors from obtaining his tax records.

The stay was issued not long after a federal judge rejected Trump’s claim that he was immune from criminal investigations in a bid to block a  subpoena from the Manhattan district attorney seeking eight years  of personal and business tax returns.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-loses-new-york-court-fight-keep-tax-returns-hidden-n1063186

 
 
 
Greg Jones
6.1  Greg Jones  replied to  1stwarrior @6    2 weeks ago

It will have to end up in the Supreme Court, probably not enough time to do that.

 
 
 
Tacos!
7  Tacos!    2 weeks ago

No story? Just the headline?

 
 
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