Trump accused of 26 new cases of ‘unwanted sexual contact’ --------------- President ‘hid behind tapestry to grope woman’

  
Via:  john-russell  •  one month ago  •  81 comments

Trump accused of 26 new cases of ‘unwanted sexual contact’ ---------------  President ‘hid behind tapestry to grope woman’
“When he says that thing, ‘Grab them in the p****,’ that hits me hard because when he grabbed me and pulled me into the tapestry, that’s where he grabbed me – he grabbed me there in my front and pulled me in,” she said.

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Donald Trump   has been accused of another 26 incidents of “unwanted sexual contact” and 43 instances of inappropriate behaviour, including a claim he hid behind a tapestry to grope a woman at his Mar-a-Lago property.

The explosive allegations are featured in a new book,   All the President’s Women: Donald Trump and the Making of a Predator , by Barry Levine and Monique El-Faizy, the first excerpt of which has been published by   Esquire   magazine. Mr Trump has faced accusations of sexual misconduct for years, and has denied them all – including the infamous moment from the 2016 campaign trail when an audio tape was leaked of him discussing grabbing women “by the p****” without their consent.


Karen Johnson spoke exclusively for the first time to Mr Levine and Ms El-Faizy about her claims of unwanted touching on the part of the president during a New Year’s Eve party in the early 2000s.

“When he says that thing, ‘Grab them in the p****,’ that hits me hard because when he grabbed me and pulled me into the tapestry, that’s where he grabbed me – he grabbed me there in my front and pulled me in,” she said.


The book’s co-authors said they conducted more than 100 interviews with women from Mr Trump’s life during the writing process. 

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Ms Johnson said she “hadn’t seen [Mr Trump] that whole entire night” at the party when she took a trip to the bathroom before going home. 

“I was just walking to the bathroom,” she said. “I was grabbed and pulled behind a tapestry, and it was him. And I’m a tall girl and I had six-inch heels on, and I still remember looking up at him. And he’s strong, and he just kissed me.”


She added: “I was so scared because of who he was ... I don’t even know where it came from. I didn’t have a say in the matter.”

He also began calling her in the days following the incident, offering to take her on trips as she cared for her dying husband. 

“Don’t worry about it, he’ll never know you were gone,” Mr Trump said, according to Ms Johnson. 


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JohnRussell
1  seeder  JohnRussell    one month ago

He's got a lot on his plate, lol. 

 
 
 
squiggy
1.1  squiggy  replied to  JohnRussell @1    one month ago

"...in a new book..."

Why not in  a sworn statement to police?

 
 
 
Ronin2
1.1.1  Ronin2  replied to  squiggy @1.1    one month ago

Because that could lead to a trial, and legal consequences if they are proven to be lying. They don't want anything to do with that.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
1.1.2  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Ronin2 @1.1.1    one month ago

There is also that little detail called "statute of limitations", and this allegedly happened almost 20 years ago with no complaints filed or police reports.  I don't think this will fly very far. Progressive liberals seem to be getting rather desperate these days. Shades of Ford...

 
 
 
1stwarrior
1.2  1stwarrior  replied to  JohnRussell @1    one month ago

Wow John - identical story from a former wannabe who published her "tell-tell" book after her society "power" came crashing down on her.

Ya never get tired of this, do you?

 
 
 
FLYNAVY1
1.2.1  FLYNAVY1  replied to  1stwarrior @1.2    one month ago

Okay, but lets agree that you are more than happy to have forgiven/overlooked/dismissed the Access Hollywood tape, and payments made to Stormy Daniels, Etc.. 

Trump is a pig.  Clinton was/is a pig......  Both lied about their activities.  Why do you see the reason to treat the two differently?  

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
2  Just Jim NC TttH    one month ago

"he grabbed me there in my front and pulled me in"

In my front. I STILL have yet for someone to tell me how you get enough of a grip on an actual pussy to pull anyone ANYWHERE they don't want to go.......through clothes no less. A penis, possibly but to grab hold of a pussy?? I'd throw that one back. Definite physical issues.

Perhaps you can 'splain John.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
2.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @2    one month ago

I think you could pull someone in , more or less, without having a "grip" on them. 

Is that your best defense? 

 
 
 
squiggy
2.1.1  squiggy  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1    one month ago
I think you could pull someone in

Like how? A bowling ball? How do you grab a nothing and pull - without getting a fat face? From behind a tapestry, yet? This is why Far Side is coming back - this bizarre bullshit is to much to not make money on.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
2.1.2  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  squiggy @2.1.1    one month ago

Next you'll want to measure the thickness of the woman's dress, or the curtain. 

It is tragic to see the bizarre lengths people will go to to excuse trump. 

 
 
 
Tacos!
2.1.3  Tacos!  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1    one month ago
Is that your best defense?

The fact that a thing probably can't be done is a pretty good defense.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
2.1.4  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.2    one month ago
It is tragic to see the bizarre lengths people will go to to excuse trump. 

How can you excuse something that didn't really happen?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
2.1.5  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Tacos! @2.1.3    one month ago

You dont think that a womans private parts could be grabbed through her clothes? Thats all we're talking about. 

All this pointless arguing about every single thing? 

Some of you need to be embarrassed. 

If you want to say he didnt do it, then say he didnt do it. Dont say it cant be done. 

 
 
 
Tacos!
2.1.6  Tacos!  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.5    one month ago
You dont think that a womans private parts could be grabbed through her clothes? Thats all we're talking about.

Not quite all.

he grabbed me there in my front and pulled me in

First of all, we're talking about something that would have happened in front of people, and yet we're hearing about it now for the first time.

But second, just picture pulling someone against their will in that way to another location. It doesn't make sense.

 
 
 
It Is ME
3  It Is ME    one month ago

"Nice to see Newstalkers has a gossip columnist to keep us up on all the latest !"

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JohnRussell
3.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  It Is ME @3    one month ago

Sexual assault is a little more serious than a divorce. 

 
 
 
It Is ME
3.1.1  It Is ME  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1    one month ago
Sexual assault is a little more serious than a divorce. 

Alleged ! jrSmiley_88_smiley_image.gif

"Gossip" is great ain't it ? jrSmiley_36_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
livefreeordie
3.1.2  livefreeordie  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1    one month ago

Without your phony scandal accusations you likely would have nothing to say to anyone. It’s a sad commentary on the lack of any life.

you really should find something positive to get a better life focus

 
 
 
JohnRussell
3.1.3  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  livefreeordie @3.1.2    one month ago

The story is in a new book and in a major British newspaper. It has nothing to do with me, or you. 

 
 
 
livefreeordie
3.1.4  livefreeordie  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.3    one month ago

That just reinforces my point. This isn’t about facts.  It your obsession with every negative gossip accusation against our president because of your hatred of him.   That’s why I’m encouraging you to get a life with some positive focus.  Obsession against anyone always destroys the person with the obsession, not the person they are obsessing over

 
 
 
Jack_TX
3.1.5  Jack_TX  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.3    one month ago
The story is in a new book and in a major British newspaper. It has nothing to do with me, or you. 

No....it's in a new book.

The newspaper is reporting on the book.  That does not count as a second source.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
3.1.6  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  livefreeordie @3.1.4    one month ago

I'm not obsessed with Trump. He's unfit to be president of the United States. Not only is he unfit, it is glaringly obvious that he is unfit. 

Worry about those like yourself you havent psychologically come to terms with that fact yet instead of worrying about me or other people who oppose Trump. 

 
 
 
Jack_TX
3.1.7  Jack_TX  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.6    one month ago
I'm not obsessed with Trump.

How...exactly....do you define "obsessed"?

What would "obsessed" look like?

 
 
 
Ozzwald
3.1.8  Ozzwald  replied to  livefreeordie @3.1.4    one month ago
That just reinforces my point. This isn’t about facts.

Are you back to supporting someone who has admitted to, and bragged about, grabbing women by their pussies?

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
3.1.9  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.6    one month ago
I'm not obsessed with Trump. He's unfit to be president of the United States. Not only is he unfit, it is glaringly obvious that he is unfit. 

It would be strange enough for an NBA team to hire 5'3" Muggsy Bogues to play for the team, but because he was very skilled and knew the game he played 14 seasons in the NBA, but if any of the teams he played for put him in as their center instead of point guard would have been considered insane. In the case of Trump, he's not only completely out of his depth for the position he's in, he doesn't even know anything about the game and is the most uncoordinated inept human to ever even run for any office including elementary school president. It would be more like an NBA team hiring a petite blow up doll and putting her in at center. It would rightly be seen as a joke, just as most Americans view this President.

 
 
 
KDMichigan
3.1.10  KDMichigan  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.6    one month ago
I'm not obsessed with Trump.

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Your obsession is documented JR

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
3.1.11  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  livefreeordie @3.1.2    one month ago
Without your phony scandal accusations you likely would have nothing to say to anyone. It’s a sad commentary on the lack of any life. you really should find something positive to get a better life focus

Why one could almost call all the negative Trump posts as............... . Proselytizing

" To attempt to persuade someone to join one's own political party or to espouse one's doctrine."

" the act of attempting to convert people to another religion or opinion"

Amirite JR?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
3.1.12  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  KDMichigan @3.1.10    one month ago

I'd say what is documented on this site about you but I think the mods would delete it as impolite. 

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
3.1.13  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Ozzwald @3.1.8    one month ago
and bragged about, grabbing women by their pussies?

He said "And when you're a star they let you do it. You can do anything ... Grab them by the pussy. You can do anything."

Never said he had actually done it. It was locker room fantasy.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
3.1.14  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.12    one month ago

Go ahead and write it. I've got thicker skin than you think, consider the source(s) and will fight with you to preserve your opinion in the annals of The News Talkers.

 
 
 
livefreeordie
3.1.15  livefreeordie  replied to  Ozzwald @3.1.8    one month ago

Can you provide evidence that this occurred when since he became president, much less before.  Bragging years ago about something with no evidence it ever occurred is not evidence.

I know of nothing that Trump has done in his personal behavior as president that is immoral, unethical, or criminal.  I'm judging who he is as president.

There is NO evidence or even accusations that Trump has engaged in sexual misconduct while president. FDR, JFK, and LBJ all had mistresses and adulterous affairs as president, but the left never attacks them for it.

 
 
 
livefreeordie
3.1.16  livefreeordie  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @3.1.11    one month ago

sounds like a reasonable conclusion to me

 
 
 
1stwarrior
3.1.17  1stwarrior  replied to  livefreeordie @3.1.15    one month ago

Yeah, and there's this little thing called "hearsay" that kinda keeps on getting in the way of the Dem/Lib arguments.  All they have are "he said - she said - unauthorized sources - unnamed sources - sources close to the subject - etc., etc.,"

 
 
 
al Jizzerror
3.1.18  al Jizzerror  replied to  livefreeordie @3.1.15    one month ago
I know of nothing that Trump has done in his personal behavior as president that is immoral, unethical, or criminal.  I'm judging who he is as president.

I guess fucking a pornstar and paying $130,000 in hush money is okay because it was before he became president.

800

 
 
 
Ozzwald
3.1.19  Ozzwald  replied to  livefreeordie @3.1.15    one month ago
Can you provide evidence that this occurred when since he became president, much less before.

So you don't believe Trump's own words?  In a different comment thread you were bad mouthing men who punch women, but your fine with it as long as the man's hand stays below the woman's waist?

I thought you were a man of God? 

What does your God think of men who sexually prey on women? 

What does your God think of men who pay women for sex?

What does your God think of men who lust after their own daughter?

 
 
 
livefreeordie
3.1.20  livefreeordie  replied to  al Jizzerror @3.1.18    one month ago

I said as president.  This occurred before he became president

 
 
 
Jack_TX
3.1.21  Jack_TX  replied to  Ozzwald @3.1.19    one month ago
So you don't believe Trump's own words?

Not really, no.  

Do you?

 
 
 
livefreeordie
3.1.22  livefreeordie  replied to  Ozzwald @3.1.19    one month ago

Who is the person he did this too?  if it happened, where is the police investigation?  Where is the civil suit?

God is against all of it.  We're talking about him as president. His personal life before he became president is none of my business

 
 
 
al Jizzerror
3.1.23  al Jizzerror  replied to  livefreeordie @3.1.20    one month ago
This occurred before he became president

That's what I said in my comment:

I guess fucking a pornstar and paying $130,000 in hush money is okay because it was before he became president.

Why the redundant redundancy?

Maybe you should pray for Trump instead of continually defending him.

 
 
 
livefreeordie
3.1.24  livefreeordie  replied to  al Jizzerror @3.1.23    one month ago

I do pray for him as the Bible commands us, but I also defend him because in my opinion he's been our best president in accomplishments since Coolidge.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
3.1.25  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  livefreeordie @3.1.24    one month ago
I also defend him

So you have no standards of behavior that Trump, as president, must conform to. 

He must have been thinking of you when he made the famous comment about shooting someone in the middle of 5th avenue and he wouldnt lose any support. 

 
 
 
al Jizzerror
3.1.26  al Jizzerror  replied to  livefreeordie @3.1.24    one month ago
he's been our best president

LOL!

800

 
 
 
livefreeordie
3.1.27  livefreeordie  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.25    one month ago

I cannot think of a single thing he has done as president that I find offensive.

Now I found Obama offensive based solely on his policies and his hostility to Christians and Israel, every day of his presidency

 
 
 
livefreeordie
3.1.28  livefreeordie  replied to  al Jizzerror @3.1.26    one month ago

Clinton's policies and those of Bush were less destructive than those of Carter and Obama who both tried hard to destroy this country.  But all 4 were too far to the left.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
3.1.29  Ozzwald  replied to  livefreeordie @3.1.22    one month ago
Who is the person he did this too?

Freely available on the internet for anyone with the guts to search.  In other words, the willfully ignorant will not search just so they can continue denying the facts.

if it happened, where is the police investigation?

So if there is no police investigation, it didn't happen?  What are your feelings about Hillary's emails and Benghazi and White Water?

Where is the civil suit?

Okay, we're talking willfully ignorant now.Trump has been sued thousands of times, you can find out about these suits  with very little effort.  But you just go ahead and keep claiming ignorance.

God is against all of it.

And yet you support Trump against your own God...telling.

We're talking about him as president.

Ahhh, so your God only cares about those things when they are elected officials?  Is that what you are now claiming?

His personal life before he became president is none of my business

Is his personal life your God's business?

Based on your answer, you would happily vote in a Muslim, because he was only a Muslim in his personal life.  Same with a satanist.  

How do you decide who to vote for if you completely disregard everything he has ever done in his personal life?

Your argument is weak. jrSmiley_50_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
r.t..b...
3.1.30  r.t..b...  replied to  livefreeordie @3.1.27    one month ago
I cannot think of a single thing he has done as president that I find offensive.

"Is Fate getting what you deserve, or deserving what you get?"  ~ Jodi Picoult

 
 
 
livefreeordie
3.1.31  livefreeordie  replied to  Ozzwald @3.1.29    one month ago

In other words, just more inuendo, no facts.

I said before, I don't make my support or opposition to any elected official based upon their past. I judge them by their actions in office. Trump has not taken any immoral or offensive actions as president.  In fact he's done more that I've hoped for from a president than anyone since Coolidge.

I don't condone anything Trump may have done before becoming president.  It's unrelated though to who he is as president.

God will judge Trump and whether he has or will repent of any wrongdoing in his life.  I have no personal knowledge about that.

I would never vote for a Muslim because they are commanded by the Quran to conquer all nations and people and subject them to the rule of Islam or be killed or enslaved.  That is an ideology that is contrary to liberty. 

Likewise with a Satanist.

And I could never vote for an atheist because that demonstrates a mind that is incapable of reason and sound judgment.

The principles of Christianity have been deemed essential to good government and liberty from our foundations until only recently 

George Washington

"What students would learn in American schools above all is the religion of Jesus Christ." - President George Washington Speech to the Delaware Indian Chiefs, May 12, 1779

"Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity, religion and morality are indispensable supports. In vain would that man claim the tribute of patriotism who should labor to subvert these great pillars of human happiness, these firmest props of the duties of man and citizens. The mere politician, equally with the pious man, ought to respect and to cherish them. A volume could not trace all their connexions with private and public felicity. Let it simply be asked, Where is the security for property, for reputation, for life, if the sense of religious obligation desert the oaths, which are the instruments of investigation in Courts of Justice? And let us with caution indulge the supposition that morality can be maintained without religion. Whatever may be conceded to the influence of refined education on minds of peculiar structure, reason and experience both forbid us to expect that national morality can prevail in exclusion of religious principle. It is substantially true, that virtue or morality is a necessary spring of popular government. The rule, indeed, extends with more or less force to every species of free government. Who, that is a sincere friend to it, can look with indifference upon attempts to shake the foundation of the fabric?" -

George Washington's Farewell Address, September 19, 1796

Providence has given to our people the choice of their rulers, and it is the duty as well as the privilege and interest of our Christian nation to select and prefer Christians for their rulers." -1st Chief Justice of the Supreme Court John Jay, "The Correspondence and Public Papers of John Jay", Henry P. Johnston, ed. (NY: Burt Franklin, 1970), Vol. IV, p. 393, October 12, 1816

More from Justice Story

One of the beautiful boasts of our municipal jurisprudence is that Christianity is a part of the Common Law. There never has been a period in which the Common Law did not recognize Christianity as lying at its foundations.

I verily believe that Christianity is necessary to support a civil society and shall ever attend to its institutions and acknowledge its precepts as the pure and natural sources of private and social happiness.”

Daniel Webster

U. S. Senator; Secretary of State; “Defender of the Constitution”:

The Christian religion – its general principles – must ever be regarded among us as the foundation of civil society.

Whatever makes men good Christians, makes them good citizens.

Noah Webster

. . . Revolutionary Soldier; Judge; Legislator; Educator; “Schoolmaster to America”:

[T]he religion which has introduced civil liberty is the religion of Christ and His apostles… This is genuine Christianity and to this we owe our free constitutions of government.

The moral principles and precepts found in the Scriptures ought to form the basis of all our civil constitutions and laws.

All the… evils which men suffer from vice, crime, ambition, injustice, oppression, slavery and war, proceed from their despising or neglecting the precepts contained in the Bible.

[O]ur citizens should early understand that the genuine source of correct republican principles is the Bible, particularly the New Testament, or the Christian religion.


And it used to be that even Democratic Presidents saw the need for Christianity to guide our nation and our politics.

"The fundamental basis of this nation's laws was given to Moses on the Mount. The fundamental basis of our Bill of Rights comes from the teachings we get from Exodus and Saint Matthew, from Isaiah and Saint Paul. I don't think we emphasize that enough these days. If we don't have a proper fundamental moral background, we will finally end up with a totalitarian government which does not believe in rights for anybody except the State!"--President Harry Truman February 15, 1950 Speech at the Department of Justice

"America was born a Christian nation. America was born to exemplify that devotion to the elements of righteousness, which are derived from the revelations of Holy Scriptures. Part of the destiny of Americans lies in their daily perusal of this great book of revelations. That if they would see America free and pure they will make their own spirits free and pure by this baptism of the Holy Spirit." From his famous address: "The Bible and Progress," ~ President Woodrow Wilson, May 7. 1911, Denver, Colorado.

President Franklin D. Roosevelt not only led the Nation in a 6 minute prayer during D-Day on June 6, 1944, but he also declared that If we will not prepare to give all that we have and all that we are to preserve Christian civilization in our land, we shall go to destruction’;

 
 
 
livefreeordie
3.1.32  livefreeordie  replied to  r.t..b... @3.1.30    one month ago

I pray for 100 more presidents who policies are like Trump's.  

 
 
 
KDMichigan
3.1.33  KDMichigan  replied to  al Jizzerror @3.1.18    one month ago
I guess fucking a pornstar and paying $130,000 in hush money is okay because it was before he became president.

Well you must admit he did a better job of it than Slick Willy. Didn't he have to pay 800k to a woman he raped? 

Stormy ends up having to pay President Trump 300k and her shyster lawyer, Left wings darling Avanatti, has his career destroyed and is looking at prison time. 

The left can't meme..

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Jack_TX
3.1.34  Jack_TX  replied to  Ozzwald @3.1.29    one month ago
Freely available on the internet for anyone with the guts to search.

Well if it's on the internet.... it must be true.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
3.1.35  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  livefreeordie @3.1.27    one month ago
I cannot think of a single thing he has done as president that I find offensive.

Trump has lied thousands of times since he took office. 

As I recall , one of the ten commandments has to do with bearing false witness. 

 
 
 
Jack_TX
3.1.36  Jack_TX  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.35    one month ago
Trump has lied thousands of times since he took office. 

It didn't start there.

 
 
 
WallyW
3.1.37  WallyW  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1    one month ago

Sexual assault is a little more serious than a divorce. 

But Hillary stayed with Bill for Chelsea's sake and future political opportunities

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WallyW
3.1.38  WallyW  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.6    one month ago
I'm not obsessed with Trump.
You write love letters about him multiple times a day jrSmiley_10_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
WallyW
3.1.39  WallyW  replied to  Ozzwald @3.1.29    one month ago
How do you decide who to vote for if you completely disregard everything he has ever done in his personal life?

Nothing he's accused of has never been proven as fact. His personal life doesn't concern me.

 
 
 
livefreeordie
3.1.40  livefreeordie  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.35    one month ago

I've stated this countless times and will continue to maintain the same position I've held on politicians for 6 decades

ALL politicians are serial liars. Mark Twain and Will Rogers made careers out of stressing that fact

I don't care what presidents say; I care what they actually do.  There words can neither help me nor harm me. It is the laws, policies, and regulations that affect my life, my businesses, and my ministry.

This isn't about how faithful to Christianity Trump or any other politician is. It's about WHAT THEY DO.

 
 
 
livefreeordie
3.1.41  livefreeordie  replied to  livefreeordie @3.1.40    one month ago

Mark Twain on Politicians

Politicians and diapers must be changed often, and for the same reason.

Suppose you were an idiot, and suppose you were a member of Congress; but I repeat myself.

There is no distinctly native American criminal class except Congress.”

All Congresses and Parliaments have a kindly feeling for idiots, and a compassion for them, on account of personal experience and heredity.”

Will Rogers

"If you ever injected truth into politics you have no politics"  WA # 31, July 15, 1923

"Never blame a legislative body for not doing something. When they do nothing, they don't hurt anybody. When they do something is when they become dangerous."

"A president just can't make much showing against congress. They lay awake nights, thinking up things to be against the president on."

I don't think either one of them knows what it's all about, to be honest with you. Both sides are doing nothing but just looking towards the next election."  Radio, June 9, 1935

"You know the more you read and observe about this Politics thing, you got to admit that each party is worse than the other. The one that's out always looks the best. My only solution would be to keep em both out one term and hire my good friend Henry Ford to run the whole thing, and give him a commission on what he saves us."  WA #3, December 31, 1922

 
 
 
Ozzwald
3.1.42  Ozzwald  replied to  livefreeordie @3.1.31    one month ago
I said before, I don't make my support or opposition to any elected official based upon their past. I judge them by their actions in office.

Wow, you are full of contradictions, aren't you?

I would never vote for a Muslim because they are commanded by the Quran to conquer all nations and people and subject them to the rule of Islam or be killed or enslaved.

But you just said, "I don't make my support or opposition to any elected official based upon their past."  How can you claim to diametrically opposed things in 1 comment?  Do you not read your own words?

Not to mention, your Bible also tells you to kill anyone not of your faith as well.

Luke 19:27, 2 Chronicles 15:12-13, John 3:16, Deuteronomy 17:1-20, Revelation 1:1-20, to just name a few.

Likewise with a Satanist.

But again, you said, "I don't make my support or opposition to any elected official based upon their past".  Did you lie?

And I could never vote for an atheist because that demonstrates a mind that is incapable of reason and sound judgment.

So you would only vote for someone that believes in something they cannot see, hear, smell, touch, or taste. 

Would you vote for someone who believes in Santa Claus?  The Easter Bunny?  Unicorns?

 
 
 
livefreeordie
3.1.43  livefreeordie  replied to  Ozzwald @3.1.42    one month ago

The nearly 1400 year history of Islam is that of murder and conquest throughout the world. They have demonstrated that they carry out those commandments.

God is real as witnessed by those who know Him.  Your others are just the typical juvenile atheist attempts at showing how mentally deficient atheism truly is.

The Old Testament verses only apply to Jews living under Jewish Law and Jewish Government.  They have nothing to do with Christians or Christianity. We are under a NEW Covenant with God.

None of the verses in the New Testament including those you cite call for Christians to kill anyone.

Luke 19:27 is a Parable NOT a command to kill anyone

John 3:16 is the promise of Jesus to give life to those who receive Him. It has no commands to Christians to others.  No human can kill another person's soul.

Revelation 1 has nothing to do with killing. It is how John was shown Jesus in Heaven in His resurrected body back as God and Lord of all creation, including life and death, heaven and hell

 
 
 
Ozzwald
3.1.44  Ozzwald  replied to  livefreeordie @3.1.43    one month ago
The nearly 1400 year history of Islam is that of murder and conquest throughout the world. They have demonstrated that they carry out those commandments.

Your quote, "I don't make my support or opposition to any elected official based upon their past".

Did you lie?

God is real as witnessed by those who know Him.

Prove it.

Your others are just the typical juvenile atheist attempts at showing how mentally deficient atheism truly is.

Or to show how gullible people are who believe anything they are told.

The Old Testament verses only apply to Jews living under Jewish Law and Jewish Government.

Are you that ignorant of the New Testament?

Jesus believed that the Old Testament was divinely inspired, the veritable Word of God. He said, ‘The Scripture cannot be broken’ (John 10:35). He referred to Scripture as ‘the commandment of God’ (Matthew 15:3) and as the ‘Word of God’ (Mark 7:13). He also indicated that it was indestructible: ‘Until Heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke shall pass away from the law, until all is accomplished’ (Matthew 5:18).

We are under a NEW Covenant with God.

Matthew 22:36-40, what if your neighbor is a Muslim, Satanist, or Atheist?  You have already shown that you do not follow the teachings of Jesus in regards to them, let alone LGBT communities.  Jesus said nothing against abortion, I think we all know where you stand on it.

None of the verses in the New Testament including those you cite call for Christians to kill anyone.

They don't have to repeat themselves, there is enough in the New Testament telling you to obey the Old Testament.

“For truly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass the law until all is accomplished. Whoever then relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but he who does them and teaches them shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.” — Matthew 5:18-19

I also notice you like to paraphrase the verses so you can claim alternate definitions.

Luke 19:27 
But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.

John 3:16 
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.  So letting someone die is a little different than causing them to die.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
4  Dismayed Patriot    one month ago

"including a claim he hid behind a tapestry to grope a woman at his Mar-a-Lago property."

Brings a whole new meaning to "the man behind the curtain"...

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
5  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh    one month ago

Talk about desperate. What about Kavanaugh? Was he there too?

Please tell me there will be another Pink Crotch Hat protest inspired by Russian disinformation!

 
 
 
MUVA
5.1  MUVA  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @5    one month ago

Of course nothing says I disagree with you like wearing a pussy hat.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
5.2  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @5    one month ago

Was an old (and I mean old) poster on a "former comment board" who insisted they were called "Pussycat hats". I pointed out to him time and time again there was no "cat" in the name of those. Even posted the creator's website that called it Pussyhat. He never did relent even after being shown multiple sources.

 
 
 
It Is ME
5.3  It Is ME  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @5    one month ago
What about Kavanaugh? Was he there too?

A certain women, found in a certain place, says YES...... KAVANAUGH was there  ! jrSmiley_97_smiley_image.gif

I was told that second hand ! jrSmiley_41_smiley_image.gif

BELIEVE ME ! jrSmiley_20_smiley_image.gifjrSmiley_15_smiley_image.gif

Am I a protected class now ! jrSmiley_87_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
al Jizzerror
5.4  al Jizzerror  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @5    one month ago
Pink Crotch Hat

It's very attractive on you, butt why do you keep bragging about it? 

 
 
 
Tacos!
6  Tacos!    one month ago

Everything about this makes it so plausible. I think we should all just believe this and not think about it too hard. /s

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Jack_TX
7  Jack_TX    one month ago

In other news, JK Rowling has revealed that Donald Trump is really Lord Voldemort.

And he eats babies.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
7.1  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Jack_TX @7    one month ago
And he eats babies.

Donald has only ever admitted to grabbing pussies, which he clearly demonstrated as he grabbed hold of his 37% conservative base even after completely insulting their intelligence, integrity, ethics and morality... “I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody and wouldn’t lose any voters, okay? It’s, like, incredible.”.

"My voters are so dumb..."

"How dumb are they?"...

“I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody and wouldn’t lose any voters, okay? It’s, like, incredible.”.

"That is dumb! Hurray!"...

 
 
 
Jack_TX
7.1.1  Jack_TX  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @7.1    one month ago
Donald has only ever admitted to grabbing pussies,

So you're suddenly taking him at his word?

Will you be calling him "Honest Don" from here on?

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
7.1.2  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Jack_TX @7.1.1    one month ago
So you're suddenly taking him at his word?

He only ever tells the truth when he doesn't think he's being recorded. We can only put trust in the things he's said when he didn't think we were all listening.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
7.1.3  Jack_TX  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @7.1.2    one month ago
He only ever tells the truth when he doesn't think he's being recorded. We can only put trust in the things he's said when he didn't think we were all listening.

Candidate for "Most Massive Rationalization - 2019".

So you can only put "trust" in what he says when it's something you want to hang him with....  Riiiiiiight.

 
 
 
JBB
7.1.4  JBB  replied to  Jack_TX @7.1.3    one month ago

Sadly, No! We really cannot believe one damn thing Donald Trump says anymore  even when we really want to. Something like 15,000 strait up lies and misleading statements later Trump has pretty much proven himself to be unbelievable. Thanks though for highlighting that fact. You must have a gigantic huge monstrous appetite for being lied to. Me? Not so much. And, don't give me that crap about they all lie. Obama said, "If you like your doctor you can keep your doctor". For the most part that was true butt we were reminded, Obama Lied", about a million times. So, that is one misstatement for Obama compared with fifteen thousand bigass whoopin lies from Trump. That seems like a fair assessment /S...

 
 
 
Jack_TX
7.1.5  Jack_TX  replied to  JBB @7.1.4    one month ago
We really cannot believe one damn thing Donald Trump says anymore  even when we really want to.

Anymore???  Riiight.  Because he was honest and trustworthy in the 1970s??  All NY real estate developers are painfully honest.  Regular Mennonites, these guys.  Didn't you know? 

Something like 15,000 strait up lies and misleading statements later Trump has pretty much proven himself to be unbelievable.

If this surprises you, you weren't paying attention.  Like....at all.  Like, you were totally in la-la land.  Or on drugs.  Or watching baking competition shows or something.

You must have a gigantic huge monstrous appetite for being lied to.

That's like saying that parents of toddlers must have a huge monstrous appetite for shitty diapers. 

Grown men have a phrase we use that to describe shit we're not particularly happy about but isn't interfering with our ability to feed our families and we can't really change anyway. 

"It is what it is." 

We elected this asshole.   And if Democrats don't grow the fuck up, pull their bratty leftist heads out of their colons and nominate somebody reasonable, we're probably going to re-elect this asshole.

Me? Not so much.  And, don't give me that crap about they all lie.

Riiiiight.  Sure.  The rest of them are all honest like nuns.  Yeah.   That's exaaactly how it works. 

No...seriously....where have you been for the last 60 years?

  • "If you like your doctor/healthplan, you can keep them."
  • "The war in Iraq was about regime-change".
  • "I did not have sex with that woman".
  • "No new taxes".
  • "We did not trade arms for hostages".
  • "I am not a crook"
  • "We are not about to send American boys 9 or 10,000 miles away from home to do what Asian boys ought to be doing for themselves,"

Now...for some inexplicable reason...and despite centuries of evidence to the contrary, you have decided to pretend that politicians are somehow trustworthy.  You now declare yourself outraged that one of them is not.

Out of curiosity, are there other insanely unrealistic expectations you intend to meet with outrage?  Will you be outraged to find out that another musician is a drug addict?  Will you be outraged when a Klansman is discovered to be racist?  Or when AOC acts like a teenager again?  What about if Ellen and Portia have lunch with the Bush's at Dallas Country Club?

 
 
 
JBB
7.1.6  JBB  replied to  Jack_TX @7.1.5    one month ago

It's not me who is triggered. Overreact Much? 

 
 
 
Jack_TX
7.1.7  Jack_TX  replied to  JBB @7.1.6    one month ago
It's not me who is triggered. Overreact Much? 

Who is talking about "triggered?  

Or has it happened so often you just anticipate the accusation now?

 
 
 
al Jizzerror
7.1.8  al Jizzerror  replied to  Jack_TX @7.1.7    one month ago
Who is talking about "triggered?

Roy Rodgers?

512

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
7.1.9  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Jack_TX @7.1.5    one month ago
No...seriously....where have you been for the last 60 years?

We've been here, and we've been angered each time those lies are spoken, especially by a President. We're so outraged that most of us remember each of those lies you listed. The problem with Donald Trump is that he lies so much I can't even remember them all. He makes sensible constitution loving Americans exhausted from being outraged nearly daily. Never before have we had a President who lied so damn much. Just a nonstop litany of lies coming out of the Presidential pie hole. His supporters seem to think its funny, like laughing at one of their blue collar comedians repeating a signature line like "You know you're a Redneck when...".

So I do not think its an unrealistic expectation to have a President who at least tells the truth most of the time. Are there going to be the spin or blatant mistruth from time to time? Of course, they're politicians beholden to their donors more than to their constituents, but most of us expect them to try to be truthful, try to state reality instead of constant hyperbole. Its truly a sad day for America when we've come to this, where a Presidents defenders can't refute the mountain of lies coming out of his mouth, they can only justify it by saying "Well all politicians lie...". Very sad.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
7.1.10  Jack_TX  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @7.1.9    one month ago
We've been here, and we've been angered each time those lies are spoken, especially by a President.  We're so outraged that most of us remember each of those lies you listed.

Really?  Do we remember?  Because we certainly don't behave like we have that perspective.

Do you consider any of those men to be fundamentally honest? 

The problem with Donald Trump is that he lies so much I can't even remember them all.

In the list I offered, do you believe that those are the only lies those presidents told?

He makes sensible constitution loving Americans exhausted from being outraged nearly daily.

I would respectfully (really) submit that "sensible" Americans stopped listening to him a long time ago.  Continuous outrage at something you cannot control certainly presses the limits of "sensible".

Never before have we had a President who lied so damn much.

Never before have we had a president you knew lied so damn much.  But never before have we had a president so careless about what he says or in possession of such powerful communication platforms.  Roosevelt gave 30 fireside chats in 12 years.  Trump tweets multiple times daily.  At least I imagine he does.  I don't follow him.

Just a nonstop litany of lies coming out of the Presidential pie hole. His supporters seem to think its funny, like laughing at one of their blue collar comedians repeating a signature line like "You know you're a Redneck when...".

His supporters have been denigrated for decades. They enjoy the emotional injury inflicted on those they see as having perpetrated that.

So I do not think its an unrealistic expectation to have a President who at least tells the truth most of the time.

I'll agree with that.  But we have what we have.  

Are there going to be the spin or blatant mistruth from time to time? Of course,

OK.  I would respectfully submit that "spin" happens much more often that "from time to time".

but most of us expect them to try to be truthful, try to state reality instead of constant hyperbole.

Do we?  We vote for hyperbole.  We tune in for hyperbole.  We certainly click for hyperbole.

We are quite possibly the most spoiled and laziest nation on earth.  That certainly includes intellectual laziness.  We just don't want to put the effort in to think about things too hard, and as a result we've lost the capacity.

Its truly a sad day for America when we've come to this,

We've definitely found a point of agreement here, but I suspect will still have some differences on the contributing factors.

where a Presidents defenders can't refute the mountain of lies coming out of his mouth, they can only justify it by saying "Well all politicians lie...". Very sad.

What about when a president's antagonists can't recognize the difference between those who defend him and those who are indifferent?  

Or how about when a large and loud contingent of the opposition party can't seem to comprehend the fact that the ditch on the left side of the road isn't actually preferable to the ditch on the right side.

Trump's actual supporters don't give a tinker's damn that he lies.  In their minds, he is protecting them from the batshit leftist hordes they read about on Facebook who want to take away their healthcare, their hunting rifles, more of their hard earned money, and their daughter's right not to share a locker room with boys....all of which are campaign promises of major Democratic candidates.  So they look at the prospect of any or all of those things happening....vs an asshole who talks a lot of shit....and the lesser of those evils is instantly apparent.

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
8  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh    one month ago

It could be a lot worse for Trump, he could grope people on video like Creepy Joe. Youtube advertisers are making a killing on those videos, there are so many.

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
9  Thrawn 31    one month ago

This story has lost it's luster, we have known Trump is a rapist and likely pedophile for a while. I mean, tell me daddy (Putin) orders people to be killed and I will be just as surprised. 

 
 
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