ABC Refuses to Issue an On-Air Correction to Their Fake News Video

  
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ABC Refuses to Issue an On-Air Correction to Their Fake News Video

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On Monday, ABC News got caught lying about having a video allegedly showing Turkish troops slaughtering Kurdish civilians in northern Syria, when, in fact, it was video from a gun range in Kentucky. Seemingly thinking a pair of weak apologies on Twitter were enough, the liberal broadcast network refused to correct the record and inform viewers on their journalistic malpractice during that evening’s   World News Tonight .

As NewsBusters’s  Kristine Marsh reported , Sunday’s   World News Tonight   teed up the contents of the video as being a product of President Trump’s foreign policy, declaring, “ This video right here appearing to be showing Turkey’s military bombing Kurdish civilians in a Syrian border town. ” The false claim was repeated on Monday’s   Good Morning America .

But following   the due diligence   of Twitter user Wojciech Pawelczyk and a   Washington Examiner   piece exposing ABC’s fake news, the Twitter accounts of   GMA   and   World News Tonight   issued the same copy-and-paste apology:

CORRECTION: We’ve taken down video that aired on “World News Tonight" Sunday and “Good Morning America” this morning that appeared to be from the Syrian border immediately after questions were raised about its accuracy. ABC News regrets the error.

Later that evening, despite anchor David Muir dedicating five minutes and 28 seconds to the fighting in Syria, the network refused to acknowledge their misleading story and correct the record for their millions of viewers. And as the   Examiner   further reported:

A representative for the Knob Creek Gun Range also told the   Washington Examiner   that they are still investigating ABC’s reporting, adding further that the images aired by the network "look to be" from their Kentucky property.

It’s hypocritical for ABC to be silent on this error since they often decry when a Republican “refuses to apologize” for something.

In 2009,   they were appalled   that Congressman Joe Wilson (R-SC) wouldn’t apologize for his famous “you lie” outburst against their precious then-President Barack Obama during the State of the Union.   They also didn’t like it   that then-candidate Donald Trump said he didn’t owe Senator John McCain an apology for disparaging his war hero status because he was captured.

It’s imperative for ABC’s flagship evening news program to correct their mistakes on-air because they’re the largest when it comes to ratings.


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†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
1  seeder  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh    one month ago

Porn for Neo-cons.....

A rare retraction...via twitter.

https://twitter.com/ABCWorldNews/status/1183772997771026432?

Meanwhile Millions of neo-cons have their pants down watching it while touching themselves.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
2  JohnRussell    one month ago

It's gratifying to know that Turkey did not invade northern Syria and start murdering  (ex US allies) Kurdish fighters and civilians. It was all a liberal hoax !  Whew ! Thats a load off everyone's minds. 

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
2.1  seeder  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  JohnRussell @2    one month ago

Things no one said,

Using a video from a Kentucky gun range to arouse neo-con warmongers in the democrat and republican party is screwed up. ABC knew, and tried to give them jerk off material.

Although I have to admit, the forum's affinity for war has helped overcome the addiction to talking about the trump's dick for a few days.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
2.1.1  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @2.1    one month ago

CBS did do this and has apologized for doing so. Responsibility MSM has shown real footage. Neo-cons believe in intervention world wide. Some of us believe in supporting our allies and never again.

Trump gave permission to a country who invented modern genocide to march into another country and take over and slaughter the fighters who defended us. They are using Al'Quda and ISIS fighters and now all those prisoners, many who are homegrown here are free. We'll see what you say when they bring their hate home. 

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
2.1.2  seeder  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @2.1.1    one month ago

No one wants to admit their passion for neoconism. I get it.

Visit the grave of a dead soldier and ask for absolution 3 times and put a ribbon around a tree.

 
 
 
It Is ME
2.1.3  It Is ME  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @2.1.1    one month ago
CBS did do this and has apologized for doing so.

How many times does the "Anti-everything Conservative/Republican" Liberal media have to apologize for fucking up on their biases, before folks really take a look at what they're being fed ?

A simple little Andrea Mitchell and "WAWA gate" with Romney comes to mind !

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
2.1.4  seeder  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  It Is ME @2.1.3    one month ago

One thing we've learned is they aren't much different from the John Bolton's and John McCains of the world.

This passion for violence plagues both sides of the aisle. As long as it's someone else's kid fighting the war though.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
2.1.5  Jack_TX  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @2.1.1    one month ago

 Isn't Turkey our ally?

or has NATO disbanded and I missed it?

 
 
 
It Is ME
2.1.6  It Is ME  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @2.1.4    one month ago
One thing we've learned is they aren't much different from the John Bolton's and John McCains of the world.

I hear those two are both "Out of the Picture" now ! jrSmiley_18_smiley_image.gif

Trump ain't no "Warmonger" for sure !

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
2.1.7  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @2.1.2    one month ago

How about all the not dead soldiers we have because of the Kurds?

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
2.1.8  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  It Is ME @2.1.6    one month ago
Trump ain't no "Warmonger" for sure !

He just has no idea of international policy. 

 
 
 
It Is ME
2.1.9  It Is ME  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @2.1.8    one month ago
He just has no idea of international policy. 

Is that what the questionable media and/or the Questionable whistleblowers have told you ?

Constant "Negative" reports have a tendency to warp things in a certain way dontchyaknow !

Obama's International Policy was great ….. huh !

He got a "Nobel Peace Prize" for just talking, before he did any of his "War" and "Ignore" stuff !

And don't forget his billions of payoff to Iran. That sealed the "Non-Enforceable" deal for Nuclear stuff with them.

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
2.1.10  seeder  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @2.1.8    one month ago

I'll take no policy over the policy of never ending war and deployments. A nicely folded flag doesn't bring back someone's son or daughter. 

We've been on the wrong side of right throughout history in the middle east and Syria is no different. It's not easy, it's more comfortable for us to be at war, we are a violent people. It will take time to come to terms with our addiction but it will save US lives.

Take a walk outside and look around, these people are your neighbors, they matter. Don't send their kids off to fight your wars.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
2.1.11  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @2.1.10    one month ago

I am not for never-ending wars and deployments. That is why I want out of Afghanistan. 

As for our soldiers; 1. We have a volunteer army so they know what they are getting into when they sign up a 2. The Kurds were doing the heavy lifting there for us, so to minimize US deaths. 

While I agree that we have been on the wrong side of many wars. the same conservatives who were all over Obama for not taking action there and calling him an Islamist sympathizer are now backing Trump. How partisan of them.

Take a walk outside and look around, these people are your neighbors, they matter. Don't send their kids off to fight your wars.

Of course, I care. I also try to evaluate the situation and not make a blanket policy. Being a noninterventionist all the time ends up with genocide and since more than half of my mum's family is dead from these kinds of policies, I tend to look at the big picture. 

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
2.1.12  seeder  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @2.1.11    one month ago

Iraq was a mistake, Afghanistan was a mistake and entering the Syrian conflict was too. History will look back and agree with me.

We have to stop the insanity now. It has never worked out in the Middle East and in never will. We have to stop deploying there period regardless of how emotional the pictures of Kurdish children are. We have to think about our own children for a change. You know, the ones that actually live on your street.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
2.1.13  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Jack_TX @2.1.5    one month ago

Do you think that Turkey should be in NATO? Are they behaving like a country that is a member of NATO?

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
2.1.14  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @2.1.12    one month ago
Iraq was a mistake, Afghanistan was a mistake and entering the Syrian conflict was too. History will look back and agree with me.

Iraq was a mistake because they kept Iran in check, Afghanistan was not handled correctly and we got involved "nation building" instead of just getting rid of Taliban strongholds for 9/11..or did you not think that was an act of war?

We created the mess that left ISIS and Syria to become aggressive. We have our nationals as terrorist there, that will return here. Despite that, we had a minimal team there just to advise the Kurds. The Kurds were doing the fighting. Now we have Turkey who is behaving like a rogue nation invading another country. I didn't realize that was OK with NATO's compact. 

Don't give me the "Our Children" thing. It's BS. The first two wars were under Republican Presidents. Funny how you and your friends said nothing then. Also, we have a volunteer army. No one forced them to join and they all knew what was going on worldwide. Finally, only 2 Americans were killed there last year. More children die in our schools. I don't hear your outrage over that.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
2.1.15  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  It Is ME @2.1.9    one month ago

Always back to Obama.

Obama's international policy was horrible. And I never supported his policy with Iran. 

So let's stop deflecting.

 
 
 
It Is ME
2.1.16  It Is ME  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @2.1.15    one month ago

And what "Horrible" policy is Trump being accused of  ?

Maybe ……………...

Stopping "ILLEGAL" immigration ?

Not wanting our citizens to be in war anymore ?

Making NATO allies pony up their money share and personage ?

Negotiating better overseas trade deals for America ?

Getting out of a Non-Binding/Non-Legal contract (see John Kerry comments) with Iran ?

Great Unemployment (all races) numbers ?

What is the BAD ?

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
2.1.17  seeder  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @2.1.14    one month ago

We should have never occupied Afghanistan. If we wanted to look for responsible parties in country we should have used a special force unit and extracted the terrorists responsible for 9/11 and brought them back and tried them in Manhattan.

Don't give me the "Our Children" thing. It's BS.

It is to you obviously. It isn't to the families of soldiers serving your wars.

 
 
 
squiggy
2.1.18  squiggy  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @2.1.11    one month ago
As for our soldiers; 1. We have a volunteer army so they know what they are getting into when they sign up

I'm not too keen on that blithe assumption - that I'm entitled to their services. John Kerry was wrongly skewered for telling kids to study in school or they'd wind up in the Army. The military has it's share of dummies but for many it's their hard-worked ticket out of desperation.

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
2.1.19  seeder  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  squiggy @2.1.18    one month ago

I think it's very respectable and positive to volunteer to serve your country by defending it. The problem is that well as you can see on Newstalkers we are infected by poisonous neocons that want to use them for purposes other than defending our country.

Self serving selfish people want to feel good about saving kurds as long as their son or daughter isn't the one doing it. They know full well we aren't in danger of being invaded.

 
 
 
Sunshine
2.1.20  Sunshine  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @2.1.15    one month ago
So let's stop deflecting.

I don't think it is necessarily about deflection.  It is past policies of all Presidents and Congress that effect our current military situations and being critical of their decisions is relevant.

 
 
 
XDm9mm
2.1.21  XDm9mm  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @2.1.14    one month ago
Iraq was a mistake because they kept Iran in check, Afghanistan was not handled correctly and we got involved "nation building" instead of just getting rid of Taliban strongholds for 9/11..or did you not think that was an act of war?

Acts of war are done by nations.  A group of terrorists is not a nation capable of declaring war.

Now as to our actions in Afghanistan, yeah, it was a FUBAR.  We should have gone in, smoked their asses and left.  No one has ever had success in Afghanistan and we sure as hell didn't.

We created the mess that left ISIS and Syria to become aggressive. We have our nationals as terrorist there, that will return here. Despite that, we had a minimal team there just to advise the Kurds. The Kurds were doing the fighting. Now we have Turkey who is behaving like a rogue nation invading another country. I didn't realize that was OK with NATO's compact. 

Bush created the FUBAR in Iraq by not leaving it alone.  Hussein was boxed in on all sides.  Iran on his western flank, we had the southern no fly zone, the Kurds maintained the northern area and Assad (a frenemy if that) was on his eastern flank.  Given time and pressure, it's possible that the Kurds might have gained a "home" in Northern Iraq with UN auspices, but Turkey was adamant that not happen.

Don't give me the "Our Children" thing. It's BS. The first two wars were under Republican Presidents. Funny how you and your friends said nothing then. Also, we have a volunteer army. No one forced them to join and they all knew what was going on worldwide. Finally, only 2 Americans were killed there last year. More children die in our schools. I don't hear your outrage over that.

Also, we have a volunteer army. No one forced them to join and they all knew what was going on worldwide.   Our military did not sign up to be global police men/women.  They signed on to protect America.  Period.

The fact that politicians decide to go on nation building cluster fucks all over the place is not the fault nor the responsibility of the men and women in uniform.

 
 
 
XDm9mm
2.1.22  XDm9mm  replied to  squiggy @2.1.18    one month ago
The military has it's share of dummies but for many it's their hard-worked ticket out of desperation.

Hell, the current military is the most educated ever by far.  The vast majority that I've had the distinct pleasure of working with have not only bachelors, but advanced degrees as well.  The husband of a former co-worker had his PhD in international studies.  He was a First Sargent and I never understood why he didn't go officer corps until he told me he felt that would be too restrictive and he preferred actually working and not being tethered to a desk.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
2.1.23  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  XDm9mm @2.1.21    one month ago
Acts of war are done by nations.  A group of terrorists is not a nation capable of declaring war.

You should have told that President Bush. He called it an act of war. 

The fact that politicians decide to go on nation building cluster fucks all over the place is not the fault nor the responsibility of the men and women in uniform.

I will not deny that, but people who sign up and make careers of this, know the gig. That would include my dad who did both Korea and Vietnam. He was 17 when he signed up, but he wasn't a kid when he left.

Now I am out on this discussion. Not because of you.. but because I see that this is a partisan issue for most and I am not into that... 

 
 
 
squiggy
2.1.24  squiggy  replied to  XDm9mm @2.1.22    one month ago
Sargent

Don't make me do it.

 
 
 
XDm9mm
2.1.25  XDm9mm  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @2.1.23    one month ago
You should have told that President Bush. He called it an act of war. 

Yes he did.  And to this day, we call it a "War Zone".  Of course "war" was never officially declared, but whats little formalities like that among friends and enemies.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
2.1.26  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @2.1.19    one month ago
Self serving selfish people want to feel good about saving kurds as long as their son or daughter isn't the one doing it. They know full well we aren't in danger of being invaded.

That takes the conversation to the personal, especially since I am the only one nuts enough to take a partisan POS article seriously. I thought better of you. I guess I was wrong.

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
2.1.27  seeder  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @2.1.26    one month ago

If you don't want war or deployments in Syria you are a partisan? That comment is a logical fail.

Try again.

Genuine liberals and libertarians and a handful of republicans are non-interventionists and have grown tired of foreverwars.

There is no political affiliation requirement to break from the hoard of neocons and think for yourself.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
2.1.28  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @2.1.27    one month ago
If you don't want war or deployments in Syria you are a partisan? That comment is a logical fail.

Here let me redirect you. Read the title of your article. It is about fake news. Not the war. Fake news. You digressed not me.

Then you make it personal to me. 

Self serving selfish people want to feel good about saving kurds as long as their son or daughter isn't the one doing it. They know full well we aren't in danger of being invaded.

Since I am the only person on this article that is disagreeing with you that comment was uncalled for and is personal. Do you want me to get personal?

Genuine liberals and libertarians and a handful of republicans are non-interventionists and have grown tired of foreverwars. There is no political affiliation requirement to break from the hoard of neocons and think for yourself.

And I am not a liberal. I am an independent. You know, those people who actually think about issues instead of getting locked into an ideology. A neocon is an idelogy again, and I am not an neocon. 

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
2.1.29  seeder  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @2.1.28    one month ago

The video was used to capture the neocon's heart and mind. It worked. Give us war!

Endless war, forever war! 

At what cost? What ever it takes?

What will we accomplish?

Well fed defense contractors. 

How will this time be different?

It won't!

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
2.1.30  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @2.1.29    one month ago

OK, let's try this again.

There was no action going on. There was status quo. Only two men died last year, both friendly fire. 

Then our dumb ass president takes a call from Turkey and pulls back which is what Turkey wanted. Now we have not only war but genocide on our hands. 

Well done USA. 

 
 
 
pat wilson
2.1.31  pat wilson  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @2.1.29    one month ago

The video was used to capture the neocon's heart and mind

Or maybe it was just a mistake.

“ABC has a really good team that does this work,” she wrote via email. “But I assume that on a Sunday, when they were probably stretched for staff, they failed to do the necessary verification checks, and under the pressure that comes with breaking news, this got through.”

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
2.1.32  seeder  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  pat wilson @2.1.31    one month ago

Easy, I did not say Neocat!

 
 
 
MUVA
2.1.33  MUVA  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @2.1.30    one month ago

The Kurds take volunteers and with cheap airfare anyone can go.

 
 
 
MUVA
2.1.34  MUVA  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @2.1.27    one month ago

Thank you I agree maybe Congress should vote.

 
 
 
MUVA
2.1.35  MUVA  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @2.1.30    one month ago

Did you feel the same way when Obama pulled out creating ISIS I know I did.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
2.1.36  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  MUVA @2.1.35    one month ago

Yes I did. 

You know what.. I am really sick of the "Obama test". 

I am an independent. I will like or dislike the actions of any president as I see fit according to my POV's. Does that clear this up for you?

 
 
 
MUVA
2.1.37  MUVA  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @2.1.36    one month ago

I asked a question to see if felt the same way about abandoning Iraq they were are enemy first then a reluctant allies.The reaction of some flying off the handle every time I ask a question is getting old how do I know your position with out asking.I would also like to tell you I actually know quite a few guys that have deployed to Syria and not one signed up to die they signed up to serve.The cavalier attitude of some in this country is sickening only about 2% of people in this country serve but to many act like they are Rambo.

 
 
 
Kavika
2.1.38  Kavika   replied to  MUVA @2.1.37    one month ago

Yes, I was very unhappy that we abandoned Iraq. As far as a reluctant allly I disagree with that in that the Kurds were a strong partner for us from the start. 

No one signs up to die, but the reality that is what can happen. 

Actually I believe it's closer to 1% than 2% that serve in our military. I don't know if it's a cavalier attitude in that we do have free speech and everyone is entitled to their opinion whether we agree with it or not. 

I also know many that deployed to Iraq and Syria. (mostly Iraq). Many members of my family have served in the ME, (going back to Lebanon) and most have had more than one deployment. 

I am more than disappointed/disgusted that we have abandoned the Syrian Kurds. 

 
 
 
Jack_TX
2.1.39  Jack_TX  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @2.1.13    one month ago
Do you think that Turkey should be in NATO?

"Should" doesn't matter.  They are.

Are they behaving like a country that is a member of NATO?

They're acting exactly like the most powerful members of NATO.

They are engaging in military action against a non-NATO country in defense of what they see as their own national interests.

They are acting exactly like the US in Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, Panama, Grenada or the British in Dhofar or Nigeria.

 
 
 
It Is ME
3  It Is ME    one month ago

"ABC Syria Footage Actually From Kentucky"

I watched this ! jrSmiley_98_smiley_image.gif

And we should believe ALL the other reporting shit they and the rest of the Anti-Trump media have put up ? jrSmiley_89_smiley_image.gif

They….the media ….. keeps shooting themselves in the foot....and the "Liberal" types keep eating it up as truth. jrSmiley_10_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Tacos!
3.1  Tacos!  replied to  It Is ME @3    one month ago
And we should believe ALL the other reporting shit they and the rest of the Anti-Trump media have put up ?

Of course! This was an honest mistake. Could happened to anyone. Please disregard. Frankly, if you don't disregard it, you probably hate America. Absolutely everything else they broadcast is 100% true. jrSmiley_79_smiley_image.gif

/s 

 
 
 
It Is ME
3.1.1  It Is ME  replied to  Tacos! @3.1    one month ago
Absolutely everything else they broadcast is 100% true.

jrSmiley_10_smiley_image.gif

But I'm just a "Deplorable Racist" according to the media....so disregard my laughter ! jrSmiley_97_smiley_image.gifjrSmiley_99_smiley_image.jpg

 
 
 
Sunshine
4  Sunshine    one month ago

Like the Post & NYT having to retract and apologize.  Seems to be a lot of that going on since 2016.

It is a shame that TDS has seeped into once was trusted information.

 
 
 
It Is ME
4.1  It Is ME  replied to  Sunshine @4    one month ago
Seems to be a lot of that going on since 2016.

Liberal media is the best of the best in journalism ! jrSmiley_88_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
4.1.1  seeder  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  It Is ME @4.1    one month ago

Don't kid yourself, their twins on fox want to go to war in Syria too. When it's about war they have a bipartisan 69 love-fest.

Americans love coverage of families that have lost loved ones. Journalists loves to provide that.

"Johnny was just a normal boy, captain of the football team and when his country called, he answered." He was just defending his country? No he was appeasing the greed of the war caucus and he was defending his fellow soldiers not our country. We are not nor have we been under attack in a long time.

We need to break the cycle. Let me know when the invasion happens, I'll support it. Until then ignore the nefarious claims we must defend various groups that hate us in the middle east.

 
 
 
It Is ME
4.1.2  It Is ME  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @4.1.1    one month ago
Don't kid yourself, their twins on fox want to go to war in Syria too. When it's about war they have a bipartisan 69 lovefest.

And here we have Trump ….. who STOPS folks like them.

Gotta Luv Trump ! jrSmiley_13_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
4.1.3  seeder  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  It Is ME @4.1.2    one month ago

I'm shocked who's come out of their shell on this forum as a war fluffer. I guess I just thought more of the people on the forum based on previous comment history.

I don't think it's funny and it's not patriotic. I am of the belief they have no right to demand someone's kid who volunteered to defend our actual country go to Syria to protect one group of who knows what against another.

They are taking a crap on the noble and brave volunteers that enlist to defend this country.

 
 
 
It Is ME
4.1.4  It Is ME  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @4.1.3    one month ago
I'm shocked who's come out of their shell on this forum as a war fluffer.

When things don't make any sense.....it's time to be "Fluff".

Other times …… it's good to be "Buff" !

Of Course.....we did have the Obama Libya "Buff", but just for "Fluff".....but that's an entirely different story !

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
5  Perrie Halpern R.A.    one month ago

This is the corrected video from ABC. Frankly, this looks like an internal set up from someone in CBS. There is a ton of real footage all over the internet. 

So while you comfort yourself that you can call others neo-cons, it's a comfort knowing that you would have been one of those who would have been OK not getting involved in WWII. Hell, they were just Jews and Gypsies. You have to love absolutism. 

 
 
 
squiggy
5.1  squiggy  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @5    one month ago

“...involved in WWII...”

Taxes!     Melania!   Turnberry!

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
5.1.1  seeder  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  squiggy @5.1    one month ago

It's for the children. 

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
5.1.2  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @5.1.1    one month ago

No, it's for us. 

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
5.1.3  seeder  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @5.1.2    one month ago

Only because we are a violent people addicted to war. It takes time to come to terms with addiction to never ending war. The upside is wonderful, two officers don't pull up to your neighbor's house and tell them their son or daughter was brave and died fighting for their country.

We aren't fighting for our country, we are safe, we are only fighting withdrawals from our addiction to war and death.

 
 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
5.1.5  seeder  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @5.1.4    one month ago

Why would I refer to another failed attempt to explain why it's different this time and why you support it.

It's a mistake. 10 years from now you will agree with me.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
5.1.6  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  squiggy @5.1    one month ago
Taxes!     Melania!   Turnberry!

No genocide. 

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
5.1.7  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @5.1.5    one month ago

You mean like the last time Turkey did this to the Armenians.? I doubt it. 

Do you need visuals for that? I can provide them. 

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
5.1.8  seeder  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @5.1.7    one month ago

I don't take sending my neighbors kids to war lightly. Unless that threat is invading US soil the pictures are not going to sway me to trade the images of foreign dead for those of my neighbors.

Why is it so easy to send our children to death? And so hard to see the dead of people halfway across the world?

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
5.1.9  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @5.1.5    one month ago

No I won't. My family is a victim of genocide and I believe in supporting our allies. I believe in being ethical and not convenient. 

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
5.1.10  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @5.1.8    one month ago
Why is it so easy to send our children to death? And so hard to see the dead of people halfway across the world?

Well, they have not been sent to their death. Last year there were only 2 deaths there, both friendly fire. We have more death in our public schools. So let's be real about what was going on there before Trump decided to pull back for Turkey and his hotels there. 

 
 
 
squiggy
5.1.11  squiggy  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @5.1.6    one month ago
No genocide. 

But it was about a liberal outlet chumming the water with whatever was at hand - like the title said.

 
 
 
It Is ME
5.1.12  It Is ME  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @5.1.10    one month ago
We have more death in our public schools

We have more death in this countries OVERALL "Public Life" …… period !

And you're worried about a certain sect of Kurds, in a certain small area, that live all over this planet anyway ?

 
 
 
XDm9mm
5.1.13  XDm9mm  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @5.1.10    one month ago
Well, they have not been sent to their death. Last year there were only 2 deaths there, both friendly fire.

And friendly fire makes it less abhorrent?

Let me ask you PH...  

You have kids who you proudly and rightly crow about.   Would you send them off to a war zone with no understanding of why they're going, no predefined objective, no exit strategy and the possibility that they will die needlessly for no reason?

And before you spin that in my direction, yes I've been to those shitholes of the world as has my son and daughter-in-law.  Not Syria specifically, but close enough to spit over the border.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
5.1.14  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  XDm9mm @5.1.13    one month ago
And friendly fire makes it less abhorrent?

It happens. Ask cops.

You have kids who you proudly and rightly crow about.   Would you send them off to a war zone with no understanding of why they're going, no predefined objective, no exit strategy and the possibility that they will die needlessly for no reason?

I have two cousins who signed up fully knowing what they were getting into. If my daughters wanted to sign up, I would have very little to say about it, since they of age. Assuming that they don't understand what they are getting into, I find hard to believe. 

This particular conflict, we were only there for advice. We were not doing the fighting. They were helping us. They were doing our dirty work. Do you believe in abandoning allies? Do you think that is ethical?

And before you spin that in my direction, yes I've been to those shitholes of the world as has my son and daughter-in-law.  Not Syria specifically, but close enough to spit over the border.

You should know me better than that by now. I don't make things personal. And while that place is most definitely a shithole, it is one of our own makings. The Kurds were the ones doing our clean up and now we are abandoning them to a country known for its long history of genocide. 

 
 
 
Sunshine
5.1.15  Sunshine  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @5.1.1    one month ago
It's for the children. 

We never see these pictures...

320

 
 
 
1stwarrior
5.2  1stwarrior  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @5    one month ago

Damn guy in the middle looks like Lon Chaney with a beard or Boris Karloff as the Wolfman.

 
 
 
Raven Wing
5.2.1  Raven Wing  replied to  1stwarrior @5.2    one month ago
Damn guy in the middle looks like Lon Chaney

Not at all. Lon Chaney Sr. is my Maternal Grandfather's Uncle, and Lon Chaney Jr. is my third Cousin. I have met Cousin Lon Jr in person several times and am very familiar with what he looks like, and seen pictures of his Father. That poor soul in the middle does not look like either of them, beard nor not.

 
 
 
squiggy
6  squiggy    one month ago

Fuck those Sunday block shoots. I’m going to Kentucky.

 
 
 
Tacos!
7  Tacos!    one month ago

You have to love all the people in the foreground recording video on their cell phones as they watch "the fury of the Turkish attack." 

Journalism isn't just dead, it's a zombie apocalypse.

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
7.1  seeder  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  Tacos! @7    one month ago

The war fluffers will do and say just about anything to keep us in the theater of war.

 
 
 
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8  Dulay    one month ago

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It Is ME
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Perrie Halpern R.A.
8.2  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Dulay @8    one month ago

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8.2.7  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Dulay @8.2.6    one month ago

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8.2.9  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Dulay @8.2.8    one month ago

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Perrie Halpern R.A.
10  Perrie Halpern R.A.    one month ago

Thread removed at request of author, off topic [ph]

 
 
 
lady in black
10.1  lady in black  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @10    one month ago

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10.1.1  lady in black  replied to  lady in black @10.1    one month ago

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Perrie Halpern R.A.
10.1.2  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  lady in black @10.1.1    one month ago

Lady in black,

Look up at the previous thread. Do you see that I, lead mod, was also removed for Meta. There is no favoritism. There is just what the CoC says. 

 
 
 
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10.1.3  Dulay  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @10.1.2    one month ago

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