Iraq: American troops leaving Syria cannot stay in Iraq

  
Via:  sister-mary-agnes-ample-bottom  •  4 weeks ago  •  51 comments

Iraq: American troops leaving Syria cannot stay in Iraq
These forces do not have any approval to remain in Iraq.

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BAGHDAD (AP) — U.S. troops leaving Syria and heading to neighboring Iraq do not have permission to stay in the country, Iraq's military said Tuesday.

The statement appears to contradict U.S. Defense Secretary Mark Esper, who has said that under the current plan, all U.S. troops leaving Syria will go to western Iraq and the military would continue to conduct operations against the Islamic State group to prevent its resurgence in the region.

Speaking to reporters traveling with him to the Middle East, Esper did not rule out the idea that U.S. forces would conduct counterterrorism missions from Iraq into Syria. But he said those details will be worked out over time.

His comments were the first to specifically lay out where American troops will go as they leave Syria and what the counter-IS fight could look like. Esper said he has spoken to his Iraqi counterpart about the plan to shift the estimated 1,000 troops leaving Syria into western Iraq.

The statement by the Iraqi military, however, said that all American troops that withdrew from Syria have permission to enter northern Iraq's semi-autonomous Kurdish region, and then from there to be relocated out of Iraq.

"These forces do not have any approval to remain in Iraq," it said. The statement did not specify a time limit for how long the troops can stay there.

President Donald Trump ordered the bulk of U.S. troops in Syria to withdraw after Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan made it clear in a phone call that his forces were about to invade Syria to push back Syrian Kurdish fighters whom Turkey considers terrorists.

The pullout largely abandons the Syrian Kurdish allies who have fought the Islamic State group alongside U.S. troops for several years. Between 200 and 300 U.S. troops will remain at the southern Syrian outpost of Al-Tanf.

Meanwhile, U.S. troops continued to pull out of northern Syria after Turkey's invasion into the border region. Reports of sporadic clashes have continued between Turkish-backed fighters and the U.S.-allied Syria Kurdish forces despite a five-day cease-fire agreement hammered out on Thursday between U.S. and Turkish leaders. The cease-fire expires Tuesday night.

Esper has said the troops going into Iraq will have two missions.

"One is to help defend Iraq and two is to perform a counter-ISIS mission as we sort through the next steps," he said, using an alternative acronym for the Islamic State group. "Things could change between now and whenever we complete the withdrawal, but that's the game plan right now."

The U.S. currently has more than 5,000 American forces in Iraq, under an agreement between the two countries. The U.S. pulled its troops out of Iraq in 2011 when combat operations there ended, but they went back in after IS began to take over large swaths of the country in 2014.

The number of American forces in Iraq has remained small due to political sensitivities in the country, after years of what some Iraqis consider U.S. occupation during the war that began in 2003.


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Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
1  seeder  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom    4 weeks ago

How much do we have to take before conservatives get it?  Get Trump out of office NOW.  Today.  Before lunch.  Better yet, before breakfast.

 
 
 
FLYNAVY1
1.1  FLYNAVY1  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @1    4 weeks ago

They don't want to care.  They just want to blow everything up foreign and domestic, to hell with what comes next. 

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
1.1.1  seeder  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  FLYNAVY1 @1.1    4 weeks ago
They don't want to care.  They just want to blow everything up foreign and domestic, to hell with what comes next.

It's no longer just embarrassing to have a person of Trump's...caliber...at the helm of this country.  It's heartbreaking.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
1.1.2  Greg Jones  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @1.1.1    4 weeks ago

Oh please.....spare us your heartbroken faux sobs. .

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
1.1.3  seeder  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  Greg Jones @1.1.2    4 weeks ago
Oh please.....spare us your heartbroken faux sobs.

Thank you for your advice.  I'll give it the consideration it is due.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
1.1.4  Trout Giggles  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @1.1.3    4 weeks ago

Yeah, now, Greg and his Neocon buddies want us out of Iraq...but where the hell were their voices 16 years ago when Bush Jr invaded Iraq?

 
 
 
KDMichigan
1.1.5  KDMichigan  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.1.4    4 weeks ago
but where the hell were their voices 16 years ago when Bush Jr invaded Iraq?

I didn't know that the booze hag Hillaryious Hillary was Gregs buddy but she was pretty much all for it.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
1.1.6  Trout Giggles  replied to  KDMichigan @1.1.5    4 weeks ago

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MrFrost
1.1.7  MrFrost  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.1.6    4 weeks ago

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MrFrost
1.1.8  MrFrost  replied to  KDMichigan @1.1.5    4 weeks ago

CDS... seek help. 

 
 
 
MrFrost
1.1.9  MrFrost  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.1.4    4 weeks ago

Yeah, now, Greg and his Neocon buddies want us out of Iraq...but where the hell were their voices 16 years ago when Bush Jr invaded Iraq?

And remember how much they cried when Obama pulled our troops out of Iraq? Hypocrites. 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
1.1.10  Trout Giggles  replied to  MrFrost @1.1.9    4 weeks ago

Yeah. But Obama didn't go far enough. He should have pulled all of our troops out of Iraq AND Afghanistan and never stepped foot in Syria.

 
 
 
Krishna
1.1.11  Krishna  replied to  Greg Jones @1.1.2    4 weeks ago
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Tessylo
1.1.12  Tessylo  replied to  MrFrost @1.1.7    4 weeks ago

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Ronin2
1.2  Ronin2  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @1    4 weeks ago

Why?

The left having rampant TDDS is no reason to remove Trump.

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
1.2.1  seeder  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  Ronin2 @1.2    4 weeks ago
The left having rampant TDDS is no reason to remove Trump.

If you think you are going to be immune from the fallout of Trump's ignorance and foolishness, you are mistaken.

 
 
 
MUVA
1.2.2  MUVA  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @1.2.1    4 weeks ago

Tell us what is going to happen us? 

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
1.2.3  seeder  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  MUVA @1.2.2    4 weeks ago
Tell us what is going to happen us?

It's already happening.  It's not just the Kurds who have lost faith in the US, but the rest of our allies have, too.  Screw your friends over, and what do you have?  Not much. 

BTW, what do you think Putin and Erdogan are discussing in their face-to-face meeting this morning?

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
1.2.4  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @1.2.3    4 weeks ago

Probably just grandchildren or something of that nature.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
1.2.5  Greg Jones  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @1.2.3    4 weeks ago

Pooty and his fellow dictator are probably talking about their grandchildren and favorite foods.

Now the parties that actually reside in the region get to control their countries.

It's time for the US Neo-cons to quit starting regime change wars.

 
 
 
MUVA
1.2.6  MUVA  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @1.2.3    4 weeks ago

Who says they are our friends I remember when Iraq fought a proxy war with Iran  losing over 300,000 men for the US then we attacked them.

 
 
 
MUVA
1.2.7  MUVA  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @1.2.3    4 weeks ago

What have they discussed for the last 6 years face to face?

 
 
 
Tessylo
1.2.8  Tessylo  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @1.2.1    4 weeks ago

But, but, but tRump's supporters cling to his ignorance and foolishness.  

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
1.2.9  seeder  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1.2.4    4 weeks ago
Probably just grandchildren or something of that nature.

That's a relief.  I thought perhaps they were celebrating their leg over Trump by watching the pee video just one more time.

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
1.2.10  seeder  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  Greg Jones @1.2.5    4 weeks ago
Now the parties that actually reside in the region get to control their countries

Holy shit, you're right.  I forgot they had some ethnic cleansing to finish. 

256

 
 
 
JohnRussell
1.2.11  JohnRussell  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @1.2.3    4 weeks ago
BTW, what do you think Putin and Erdogan are discussing in their face-to-face meeting this morning?

The Joy Of Playing Trump. 

 
 
 
Krishna
1.2.12  Krishna  replied to  MUVA @1.2.2    4 weeks ago
Tell us what is going to happen us? 

As ISIS regains its lost strength they will accelerate their recruitment of naive westerners-- which means more domestic attacks by home grown terrorists recruited online by ISIS propaganda.

 
 
 
MUVA
1.3  MUVA  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @1    4 weeks ago

No. 

 
 
 
Krishna
1.3.1  Krishna  replied to  MUVA @1.3    4 weeks ago

Yes.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
1.4  Greg Jones  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @1    4 weeks ago

The message is clear. Get all US troops and "advisors" out of those shithole countries. Trump is doing the right thing. He's doing what he said he would do.

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
1.4.1  seeder  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  Greg Jones @1.4    4 weeks ago
He's doing what he said he would do

Yep, he's trying to protect his personal interests in the region's oil reserves.  I didn't realize you were aware of that.

 
 
 
Krishna
1.4.2  Krishna  replied to  Greg Jones @1.4    4 weeks ago
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Kavika
2  Kavika     4 weeks ago

This get's more ludicrous by the hour. 

 

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
2.1  seeder  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  Kavika @2    4 weeks ago
This get's more ludicrous by the hour.

I know.  In addition, with Putin and Erdogan meeting as we speak, it's not unreasonable to conclude that we might all end up going down with the ship.

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
3  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh    4 weeks ago

Aww.....the war party is upset.

Sad neocons?

I'm tearing up a bit.

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
3.1  seeder  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @3    4 weeks ago
I'm tearing up a bit.

The Kurds helped us, BF.  They helped us fight the scumbags that continued to pose a threat to the US, and lost 11,000 people in the process.  Now we've abandoned them so Trump can protect his 1.8 million shares of Exxon Mobile.

I've never figured you as a guy that would say, "I've got mine, so who gives a shit about anything else that happens."  

You are also mistaken about your 'war party' characterization.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
3.1.1  Tessylo  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @3.1    4 weeks ago
'I've never figured you as a guy that would say, "I've got mine, so who gives a shit about anything else that happens."  

I've always figured most tRump supporters to be that way.

'You are also mistaken about your 'war party' characterization. '

You are correct, as usual.  

 
 
 
Greg Jones
3.1.2  Greg Jones  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @3.1    4 weeks ago

The progressives don't give a shyt about the Kurds. We shouldn't even have troops on the ground in that region. And now you want them to stay there forever??

 
 
 
Krishna
3.1.3  Krishna  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @3.1    4 weeks ago
he Kurds helped us, BF.  They helped us fight the scumbags that continued to pose a threat to the US, and lost 11,000 people in the process.  Now we've abandoned them so Trump can protect his 1.8 million shares of Exxon Mobile.

Lindsay Graham, a longtime Conservsative Republican Neo-con, usually supports Trump-- except when he feels Trump shopuld take stronger military action! But he's up for re-election and watching the polls, so he has recently been changing a lot of his criticism.

Here's what he said as part of a message where he changed his tone (but still slipped up a bit by admitting what the Kurds did). 

. . Kurds, who suffered 10,000 killed in fighting against ISIS terrorists.

The United States , which supported the Kurds with arms and a relatively small contingent of special operations forces, lost eight lives in the five-year battle, Graham noted.

(Read it all)

 
 
 
Krishna
3.1.4  Krishna  replied to  Greg Jones @3.1.2    4 weeks ago
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Ronin2
4  Ronin2    4 weeks ago

Thank you Iraq.

1) For proving you are not and never will be a US ally. Maybe now we can pull all US forces from the country and let reality take hold. No going back in and saving the government loyal to Iran for a second damn time. No retraining, rearming, and providing logistical support for the Iraqi military for a third time.

2) For making sure that US troops removed from Syria cannot stay in Iraq either. Your country is a piece of shit. Your government is a piece of shit. You will be fighting another civil war before too much longer as you treat your people like shit. Don't call us. Beg your Iranian masters for help next time. They have an air force. You already have Iranian militias floating around your country. Put the bill where it belongs to save your sorry hides, with Iran.

3) For proving both Bush Jr and Obama were complete foreign policy simpletons. Not that we needed more proof.

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
4.1  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  Ronin2 @4    4 weeks ago

Dick Cheney is so proud of the Democrat Neocons he's convinced to support forever war.

Dick is your daddy now.

 
 
 
Krishna
4.1.1  Krishna  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @4.1    4 weeks ago
[DELETE]

 
 
 
Tessylo
4.1.2  Tessylo  replied to  Krishna @4.1.1    4 weeks ago

You seem to forget who you're talking to.

He'll tell you that he's top dog around here, not Perrie.  

 
 
 
JohnRussell
4.1.3  JohnRussell  replied to  Tessylo @4.1.2    4 weeks ago

He was voted most popular NT member six years in a row , or so he says. jrSmiley_30_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
4.2  Trout Giggles  replied to  Ronin2 @4    4 weeks ago

And thank-you, Ronin, for stating what needed to be stated.

 
 
 
Kavika
4.3  Kavika   replied to  Ronin2 @4    4 weeks ago
3) For proving both Bush Jr and Obama were complete foreign policy simpletons

Now we can add Trump to the list since he wanted to add 1,000 more troops to the 5,000 plus there now. 

Oh, and the latest is the Trump is going to leave a ''small number'' of US troops in Syria to guard the oil fields.  

 
 
 
It Is ME
5  It Is ME    4 weeks ago

Send our Troops back to the fighting Mr. Trump. They deserve at least that much Mr. Trump.  jrSmiley_15_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
MrFrost
6  MrFrost    4 weeks ago

Looks to me like there are a lot of trolls who don't know the difference between a "war hawk" and protecting our allies. 

 
 
 
Krishna
6.1  Krishna  replied to  MrFrost @6    4 weeks ago
Looks to me like there are a lot of trolls who don't know the difference between a "war hawk" and protecting our allies. 

or a neo-con Chickenhawk like our Bone-Spur challenged president!

 
 
 
Krishna
7  Krishna    4 weeks ago

 neo-con Chickenhawk like our Bone-Spur challenged president!

Chickenhawk (definition):

Chickenhawk (politics) , a person who supports war yet actively avoided military service when of age.

Perfect description of our mentall challenged president. Claims he's going to end the endless wars by removing troops out of harms way pulling them out of Syria. (But in actuality he's moving them into an even more deadly place-- Iraq!). 

What a total nutcase!

And he keeps selling more and more advanced weapons-- and deplying more and more troops to Saudi Arabuia!

A classic Chickhawk if there ever was one!

 
 
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